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>>98725540learning more about my preferred faction
>>98725540>What part of the hobby triggers that "neuron activation" feeling for you?Orks :D
Starting thread with games
>>98725540TQ: Seeing the great new models on the way from Games Workshop :D
Remember to drill your wolves anuses
>custodes week Fml. I was hoping for something for 40K.
>TQI'm still chasing the biggest high I've gotten from wargaming which I got to enjoy when I first started the whole hobby, namely that we had some war vet guy print out a big laminated map of Middle Earth, had everyone pick factions/cities/forces, and basically ran a D&D-esque/Total War style campaign out of it. Lots of fun character things to do and what-not. One of these days I'll get to do it again.
>>98725552wow I sure love seeing the same picture 20 minutes later
Owlcat has soft confirmed that the token character model Eldar are getting this edition is the Bonesinger. Likely no major changes from the old design.
>>98725557>Here's some easy access to rerolls and other bonuses for your guys that always hit on 2+'s>Here's a bunch of massive stats and shitThey're just so fucking boring.
Custodes Previewhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2xxurx9j/first-look-adeptus-custodes-datasheets/
>>98725563Then close your eyes nigga lmao
>>98725567Are Bonesingers like snake charmers for human male cocks?
>>98725567is this the new charecter they adding in the final DLC?>>98725571so Custdoes release next week?
KINDKOLOSSALKUSTODESKNOCKERS
>>98725577Silence, ratfag
>>98725552Based Cali gaming
Look forward to some wips tonight
>>98725567That doesn't confirm anything, anon.
>SoS in backgroundwell at least they are there this time
>>98725578Detachments next week, preorders the week after and release after that.
>>98725571newfag from /co/ hereThese guys always reminded me of the "bigger batman" meme.Were they created to just be better versions of space marines or some shit
>>98725592They basically got turned into "bigger batman" on top of GW trying to force them into some kind of protagonist role because they're "above all the petty nonsense" of the setting or whatever. It's lame storytelling.
>>98725578>is this the new charecter they adding in the final DLC?No, the new character is a Miraculist.>>98725587Owlcat has only been adding things that have a tabletop model (likely at GW's insistence), which the Bonesinger currently doesn't have.
>>98725582Hell yeah brother
>>98725589Surely now that the custodes line is updated it's time for sisters to get their due, right?
>>98725597Most of the RT companions feel like DH characters
>>98725597It had a previous model, silly. Do you think all those Dark Eldar models they have in the game have models they currently sell, like Sslyth?
>>98725592They were originally bodyguards for officials and slowly just became the emperors finest warriors that were bound to him between editions.Sort of like a more elite hand crafted version of the more mass-produced space marines.
>Even their most ‘basic’ BATTLELINE infantry can soak up incoming weapons fire with Toughness 7 and 5 Wounds apiece, while they casually dish out the kind of close combat damage that even seasoned veterans with power fists struggle to match.Fuck me, here I thought the shuffle might mean they'd let Marines catch up on Custards a bit and they could sit still and be content with a 'mere' 1 toughness higher than Marines, but no, god forbid gold boys don't get a buff too
>Vulkan, my brother!
>>98725612This game is headed for another massive reset isn't it?
>>98725605Strong chance for all ladies in power armor to go up to T4, yes
>>98725618>Leman, you son of a bitch!
>>98725597>Owlcat has only been adding things that have a tabletop modelThat's not how GW licenses work, total war shows they can ask for any thing that's currently in production, that was once in production, portrayed in artworks, or even just described at times.The bonesinger isn't particularly controversial for gw to greenlight.
>>98725618>>98725626
100ft tall battle sisters when
CSM are getting an apothecary equivalent this edition
>>98725637This but World Eaters
>>98725621The next edition will be an index edition, Mark my words.
>>98725618>>98725626cringe
>>98725632Gw probably has a bonesinger sculpt done, just a matter of time
>>98725618>>98725626Holy cringe
>>98725640It's either that or power creep is going to go to some obscene level.
>>98725634Put a SoB joytoy in your display case next to your sister's army.
>>98725640Every second edition nowThey'd do it every one but even they prob don't think it's wise to risk making us throw our Codexes out at the end of EVERY edition
I don't get the giantess crap
>>98725632Total War's not a good example since GW was letting CA do almost whatever they wanted since Fantasy was dead. It wasnt until they were designing Cathay together for WH3 that they decided to bring Fantasy back to the tabletop, and the DLC for 3 has been less adventurous than 2 since it was an actual product line again
>>98725649codexes are already thrown out each edition, I don't think anyone likes having to haul more books around.
>>98725652Its a fetish you're not supposed to unless you have it. I dont get the armpit thing, for example, but I love feet
>>98725567I'd love a GOOD bonesinger model, GW can't
>>98725634Fuck you, shes short now.
>>98725634skidaddle skidoodleyour giantess is now a 5' tall girl in the foreground
>>98725657Unless you're over the age of 50 everyone is using their phones for rules, no one is carrying books around
>>98725665>>98725664Anti-giantess hivemind.
>>98725621It honestly feels like a power creep. Space Marines get their huge buff to play more ""thematically"", the other factions rightfully get pissed at this and ask what's in store for them. So Chaos, the Custodes, Eldar, so on get the buffs. It ultimately starts to feel like a treadmill where everyone gets buffed but the only thing that changes is the number of units on the table due to point increases (I've heard a rumor that they're slow dripping the point increases and it'll cap at about +30% SM wise, because the frog in a pot of water approach taken over the summer was really popular.)I think 12 is going to be the hard reset that will have to fix where 11 is running towards. Much as I have misgivings about 11, I would honestly have it last 3-4 years than be rushed out the door for it to be a half-baked mess that has to be tweaked every 2 weeks like it's a live service game.
>>98725657If it's not an index edition then you obviously keep using the Codex from last one until its replaced
>>98725666>no one is carrying books aroundI am, i don't like relying on my phone for rules
>>98725675The other factions being pissed isn’t “rightful”
>>98725665>>98725664wtf this is rude as fuck man
>>98725676I doubt any of the printed codexes are even usable, so many rules have been changed. 11th is a soft indexing
>>98725595>They basically got turned into "bigger batman" on top of GW tryingYou mean Forge World. GW only kept making them because they were popular.
>>98725678Because you're over the age of 50. I covered that in my post.
I also like using books, my phone is old and loses power quickly and I use it to take photos of my games instead.
>>98725690Did Custodes get standard models before the burning of prospero board game?
>>98725679CorrectSpace Marines are the main character factionThey should be very strong and thematicMinor faction players should feel lucky that they get a codex at all
>>987256122x10 Hellblasters in every marine list.
>Build a 600 point list for an event that said it didn't have a fixed points count>oh btw ypu need a min 1000 pints and didn't tell anyone untill three days before
>>98725621No, gw is making too much money to risk having the house of cards fall down by having a drastic change in rules, they'll churn out new editions with very small changes until they can do that.If you're going to see experimentations in the rules department it will be in aos or some sidegame format, I'm betting on another attempt at apocalypse now that superheavy units are widely accepted and a few new ones may be in the pipeline, and if the rules additions in that prove popular, they'll integrate them in the main 40k rules.
>>98725699>they got rid of that jank fire on death ruleoh thank god
>>98725696And how likely do you think it is that Space Marines don't get power crept by every single codex that comes after them?
>>98725552He’s hard to spot, but a solo trace captain charged my flamer/librarian/apothecary brick. It went poorly for him.
>>98725649Codexes are thrown out before they're even released because they're already outdated.
>>98725675Non-special boys factions are going to be so disappointed if they expect their codexes to get power crept like marines and custodes (orks were already busted). Believe GW when they say they want the elites (of all kinds) to feel more elite.
>>98725705Yup. Now even the non-hazardous profile does 2 damage and they can fire 3 times at 12".
>>98725707Very unlikelySpace Marines have historically sat at a strong but not overpowered positionI have no reason to believe that it suddenly won’t stay that way any longerSome codexes will be stronger, some will be weaker
>>98725705Yeah I'm glad it's gone. Also makes more sense to have them in 10s now as putting them in an impulsor (firing deck 7) doesn't really save wounds from overcharging. You take bigger hazard rolls when it inevitably explodes turn 3.
>>98725618>>98725626I dunno, ask /hhg/
Last thread was quite possibly one of the worst in the last 25 years I've been on this board.
>>98725675I think fixing the game from the perspective of 10th/11th as the starting point is a complete tragedy.
>>98725735>25 yearsYou wish
God curse the koreans
Bring back initiative and bring back the WS chart
>>98725703I think people are aware now that AoS is their testbed for stuff given how much 40k has shifted towards AoS stuff.
>>98725735The threads have been so fucking miserable lately, easily the worst I've seen during my time on this site.
>>98725747I remember about a year into 8th i pointed out 40k basically copied the morale system from AOS to the gw manager and he was like "hmmmmm yeah...interesting"
>>98725684She's now small too.And also she's a greytide player because fuck you.
>>98725743>Space King>Space PenisWhat's the next 40k parody? Space ???
>>98725721Yeah some armies are going to be suffering all edition after suffering for entire editions previously. It's awful.
>>98725707Nobody thinks that GW is going to make space marines, their flagship faction that sells the most plastic by far, weak
>>98725756Space left intentionally blank
>>98725540Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was "Retro" and was left to your own interpretation. Could be an old model, a super vibrant vintage scheme, a final farewell to firstborn or something else you feel fit the theme.I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my september collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's voteI combined a few options because the list was getting pretty long, hope that's okay. Also a heads up for next month, in the spirit of the season regardless of the winner "spooky" will be an optional additional theme.
>>98725755>>98725672>>98725665>>98725664devilish
>>98725757Hopefully eldar are on that listDeldar are fine though hopefully theyre cool and strong
>>98725755come on man
>>98725758It doesn't matter how good Space Marines as a faction are because the majority of their playerbase is just trash at the game and will tank their winrate anyway even while skilled players use them to take tournament top rankings everywhere. It's the same deal with guard. They mostly a hobbyist faction.
>>98725765https://strawpoll.com/kogjRP4kEg6Whooops here is the link
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98725770I'm more worried for my army that's been shit since I came back to the hobby in 8th.
>>98725774Bibbas just be sayin shit>>98725777Place your bets gentlemen
I keep hearing "you can use sprues to make terrain" but no one ever explains how
>>98725552Knights against sisters at 1000 points must have sucked for the sisters player. No way he had anything that could deal with them unless he wanted half his army to be Vahl and 3 paragons. Brutal matchup.Hoping to get a game in next week with this bad boy, just gonna sticky tack his arms on for now until I can really figure out a good pose for the axe arm. Kid starts daycare next week so I'll feel less bad about leaving the wife to care for him all day.
>>98725735>the last 25 years I've been on this board.this website is not 25 years old
>>98725801Yeah, it did. I told him as much and apologized before the game (its an escalation league) but he kept a good attitude throughout. Sisters are rough in general in an escalation league even if you're not against knights. I played a league as them at the end of 9th and it sucked
>>98725799A quick internet search will do you wondersThere are guides on youtube for every possible question you could think up
>>98725812goddamn i wish real life women had curves like that and also that they would like me
Do you think this lidt works from the fluff, trying to make sure each unit makes sende>Technoarcheologists warlord, he is a respected priest who specilises in finding and destroying ancient Abominable Intelligence>Enginseer, second in command, general tech man>Ten rangers, used as scouts and sentries>Data smith and robo frens, heavy lifting and combat>three Breachers, used to clearing sites of traps and enemies>three destroyers for blasting doors and rock>five fusiliers-body guards >battleclade-general grunt work and combat
>>98725781Who u play? GSC?I wish you the best obviously>>98725801Cool model
>>98725801when will you paint the trim? or are you just going to leave it grey?
>>98725799Use them as a frame and put wood, foil, foam, putty, texture past or whatever on it. Don't just use only sprue. Sprue looks like sprue.
>>98725822I dunno, ask /hhg/
>>98725825Ad mech so we're basically brothers in arms.>>98725822Yeah checks out to me if you want to make a themed force.
>>98725755>greytides your modelYou fucking monster, paint it again!
>>98725725>>98725829niggas are so desperate to try to mimic the aura of the first time this was postedyou’re just a cheap imitation>>98725816These are pretty coolI’ve seen several other good examples before
>>98725612>t7>4+ invuln save>battlelineGenuinely, how am I supposed to kill that playing guard?
>>98725848You forgot 2+/4++/5+++
>>98725801Bit silvery for my taste but it looks incredible
>>98725848Blobs of 20 guardsmen with command squad and stacked ordersOr 3 fucking baneblades which is where the meta is going for guard
>>98725851Oh wait that's just Trajan sorry, who buffs everyone within 6" like a 9th character.
So how long do you think it will take for him to drop the trip? He's getting ignored so most people probably filtered him already
>>98725833Cool
>>98725855>metaLolLmao
>>98725870i read every single one of his posts and everytime i learn something new and i go "hhhmmmm didnt think of that" while i scratch my chin and smoke my pipe. so i certainly hope he stays
what CSM models should I pick up if I want to be competitive at tournaments? I'm reppin' Khorne
>>98725848how do guard kill anything? tanks.
>>98725815At least he was in good spirits, I've never played against knights but I imagine the sisters player pretty much ignored you and tried to score?>>98725826Trim is silver, I think the picture just doesn't show it well? I should do some highlights for the trim though.
>>98725892warptalonraptorchosenforgefiend huroncorsairsculist
>>98725870i always have force anonymity mode oncause I always get triggerand trying to tell trip/namefag to turn it off is just a lost cause
>>98725897>use tanks to kill models with an army wide 4++Guess again, no games
>>98725848Lots of plasma/melta shots as usual.Also, bullgryns gigacuck all these damage 2 tryhard marines.
>>98725888Leeman russ sucks wolf dick and you live in your car
>>98725922>plasma and melta against a 4++ army designed to eat thoseWhy are you all so retarded
>>98725920Do your tanks not have a shitload of guns to grind through coinflip saves?
typhus and ahriman are both butt naked and covered in null oil who's winning the twerkoff
>>98725938Your disappointed father.
>>98725938your erection is.
>>98725937Not leman russes. Baneblades yeah
Thanks mods.I hope you get a raise
>>98725938Kharn.
>>98725612I hate this so much. Custodes just aren't fun to fight. This makes it so much worse. It's Herohammer/Movie Marinesthe list all over again. I hate toughness skew armies. >>98725699I'm about to run 30.
>>98725642Wasn't one of the rumour engine pics a bonesinger flute?And now that I'm thinking about it, wasn't there a rumor engine from a few years ago that had the pale spear and it was never revealed?
>>98725914any specific number? or just one of each?
>>98725968No you don't understand anon, it's actually fun for your units to die in massive droves just so that you might be able to win on objectives. How isn't that fun?
>>98725976>it's actually fun for your units to die in massive droves just so that you might be able to win on objectivesYou've just described 40k in general since at least 9th edition
>>98725855>price of 3 Baneblades at GW prices: $735>ability to maneuver Baneblades on modern game maps: Ever Given in the Suez CanalUgh>>98725922>baneblade and bullgryn metaYea I'm just not playing that shit
>>98725982Some armies had no choice but to die on objectives because they just couldn't do enough damage. This is what we know to be fun apparently.
>>98725838alright
>>98725990Its thematic for armies like guard at least
>>98725999Thematic doesn't necessarily mean fun if you're just picking models off the table all game.
>>98725990Ah yes, hyperbole. Because there was never any variance before. It was all T3/4 infantry for 100% of all lists. There were never armies that had tough units mixed it. The obvious solution now is to inflate toughness, especially Custodes. They need to be a slog to kill for the sake of all armies.
Force org would solve all these problems by the way
>>98726005Not really hyperbole given leagues of votaan and ad mech had no choice but to play that way for 9th on top of ad mech having to jump through hoops for a bunch bonuses. Shit sucked big time.
>>98726009Force Org would somehow lower these crazy toughness and attack profiles?
>>98725968Units of 3 are honestly less scary than the current 5.
>>98726020Armies would look like armies at the very least.
>>98725552
>>98726024>Armies would look like armies I saw in white dwarf magazine as a kidPainfully nostalgia-brained.
>>98725557>MT fanYou aren't helping
>>98725870I don’t get why he doesn’t just post to reddit. its clear it gets to him hence him going to get the trip in the first place, so why doesn’t he just go somewhere he won’t get instabanned and bullied.either way, I’ve been bullying the shit out of him for the past couple weeks, and will be filtering him because I want to see him crawling back to being “Anonymous” again.
Huron's latest novel "Blackheart: Claws of the Maelstrom" has him laughing at the Imperium cursing him for his ambitions while ignoring Roboute's 500 Worlds and making himself *regent*.I mean....Huron has a point. Shortly after returning to the world of the living, Roboute set about restoring his old empire in Ultramar to its full glory, and not just that, he plans to massively expand it beyond its historical borders. His personal legions are forcefully assimilating Imperial worlds that attempt to resist this. All worlds folded into Ultramar are occupied by his auxiliary forces, regardless of whether they joined willingly or not, to signify their new political allegiance.The Imperial Tithe is redirected to Macragge rather than Holy Terra. The Ordo Astartes and Hereticus have logged several suspicious behaviors of Roboute that border on Legion-building.Yet no action has been taken... curious.Do you guys have any rebuttal to Huron's point of view, or is he correct that the Imperials are hypocrites?
Posting an old game. Should be posting some new game pictures either later this week or early next against a local wolf tonightWent with anons suggestion for a Dread Speed Tide list and did 500pts of green tide, dread mob, and kult of speed each. Should be an interesting way to test out the limits of the new detachment system.Also, apparently the wartrike attaches to buggies now? Can't see why you'd do that over warbikers, but thats kinda funny.
>>98725612Uh oh marinefag melty
>>98726063I'm more comfused about why the mods refuse to rangeban him.
>>98726033My army on the table also looked like an army. Nowadays it would just look like a pile of chicken walkers.
>>98725699>D2DOA
>>98725652I’ve heard it explained that its the purest form of femdom because women who act dominant act in a “masculine” way, and in the end the suspension of disbelief is kind of broken because usually the woman is physically weaker than the man, but a giantess can be dominating and strong while still acting completely feminine.
>>98726064bro you consort with daemons I don't want to hear it
>>98726064huron's a bitch maroon who fell to chaos, not the primarch regent of the imperium.
>>98725991Yay, thank you.
>>98725999Guard should have an army rule that if they survive until round 5 they can Deepstrike a unit of space Marines onto each objective they control for free to save the day
>>98726086Actually, in the same novel, Huron says that he will NEVER be a slave to Chaos. He will never serve the gods. He will take their gifts when offered, but never at the cost of his freedom.
>>98726086you don't understand, he's USING the chaos to defeat the chaos, no one has ever tried it before
>>98726100someone post the image, you know which one
>>98726100>Huron says that he will NEVER be a slave to Chaos. He will never serve the gods. He will take their gifts when offered, but never at the cost of his freedom.He needs to read the fine print.
>>98725968>Custodes just aren't fun to fight.it's such bullshit that ontop of +2 on EVERYTHING they just insist on giving them re rolls on 1s. like goddamn let them fail at something.
>>98725991jokes on you, i already enjoy watching girls paint models.
>>98726065>went with my suggestionhell yeah, how’d it to? did you krump the space wolves?
>>98726100>Actually, in the same novel, Huron says that he will NEVER be a slave to Chaos. He will never serve the gods. He will take their gifts when offered, but never at the cost of his freedom.basically a porn actress' denial about being fucked literally and metaphorically
>>98726100Yeah yeah yeah we've heard this one a thousand times>I'm no slave to chaos!>Why yes all of my actions directly benefit the chaos gods, why do you ask?>>98726109I gotchu
>>98726064Guilliman is a Primarch and on top of this both the Lord Commander and the Imperial Regent of the Imperium. Ie. he is the defacto Emperor now, whatever Guilliman does or says is law.Huron isn't allowed to do whatever he wants because he was just a regular marine.
>>98726100>Huron says that he will NEVER be a slave to Chaos.After he has already sold his own soul and the Astral Claws/Red Corsairs out to the Chaos Gods.It is literally only reason why Huron is even fucking alive at this point and why could at all take any form of revenge at the Imperium.Huron is by definition a SLAVE to Chaos, he by fact, canonically, sold his own soul to them. He's just genuinely too fucking retarded and delusional to realize what that "business transaction" entailed.
>>98726125He did whatever he wanted though, that's why he's carved out a big empire and has a legion sized force.
>>98726124this but ahriman sitting in the cornor seething about tzeentch
>>98726124it do be like that mista stancil
>>98726125>he is the defacto Emperor nowHERESY
>>98726139And that's why he is a heretical traitor that now drinks demon cum every thursday while denying being a slave to chaos. (he is a slave, he's just retarded)
>>98725612Interesting. Max squad is 3 and they will have the same amount of wounds as current 5 guys but their offense doesn't scale nearly as much, they only get 1 extra attack, they lost the wound rerolls, and they used to have sustain all the time (in melee).Seems like they're shifting Custodes more toward durability over damage output. Though marines lost a shitload of their rerolls too.
>>98726152Everyone's a slave to someone in this setting, just how it goes.
>>98726141I'm pretty sure ahriman realized he's just a pawn and does what he does for the love of the game at this point
>>98726135He horrifically tortures a former Word Bearer Red Corsair who attempted to bind the Red Corsairs to the service of the Chaos Gods. Then give a speech about freedom.
>>98726125>he is the defacto Emperor now, whatever Guilliman does or says is law.damn, I never thought of it like that, but that’s pretty cool. definitely instills that north korean esque necrocracy.
>>98726150>HERESYNot in the slightest when THE actual Emperor bestowed that shit onto Guilliman.
>>98726155If the Katah leak is to be believed they will end up with more attacks
>>98726166The Emperor is The Emperor. You will burn for this, heretic.
>>98726169>THE actual Emperor bestowed that shit onto Guillimanno, he didn't
>>98726173heretic is the least of it.
>>98726171>-1 damageNo way this is real
>>98726156Who's Belakor a slave to?
>>98725612I think its time we admit that any non hero unit getting a 4+ invulnerable save built into the statline is dogshit game design.
>>98726187As per his lore? The Great Game of Chaos. Each God throws him at the other like a dodge ball.
>>98726165And he is still fucking retarded slave to chaos because Huron canonically, by fact, has already sold his own soul to the Chaos Gods. It is the sole reason how he managed to survive a shot from a multimelta at point blank range that vaporized half of his upper body and head.It doesn't matter what Huron says, he is a slave and he can do nothing about it. The gods could literally at any moment turn his ass into a chaos spawn for the lulz, and he can do nothing to stop it.
>>98726186I'm already dreading Terminator units getting easy access to -1 damage in the Marine codex. If they start handing it out to Custodes all my D2 army damage is going to crater
>>98726187the gods, the everchosen, and gravity
>>98726182>Not the way I do it!supremely based
>>98726165Huron and abbadon are literally the chaos gods abuse goblins
>>98726150It bothers me that this art makes the power fist look so badass when the tabletop version is just fugly
>>98726187Other anons have answered for me pretty well.
>>98726171oh my fuck
>>98726205Lmao
>>98726156I don’t know. I think gork and mork are pretty chill with their boyz being boyz, and individual orks are free to leave and start their own warbands if they don’t like the current warboss.
>>98726193I've been saying this since at least 9th
>>98726205No. That would be Be'lakor.They act as yandere girlfriends toward Abaddon.
>>98726220Orks are collectively slaves to the love of the game, but that's probably a far shot to make my point valid.
>>98726193DependsWhen it's something like a lesser Daemon with a relatively low toughness well that just means its basically a 4+ armor that ignores any AP, they will still die to small-arms easy
>>98725540>TQPainting guys red
>>98726225At that point you're questioning the existence of free will (which is unfortunately probably not a thing at all in 40k anymore because of chaos wank making everything everyone does part of the influence of chaos)
>>98726193This but Riptides
>>98726230I'd say you still have free will, you just have a boss, or at least some middle manager that bothers you sometimes.
>>98726220Not according to Grotsnik, who views the G&M as unworthy of worship. He claims that they are false gods since they are not the creators of the Orks but the creations of the Ork race. But going on He accuses Ghaz of knowing this truth but going along with the lie instead of freeing the Orks to reach greater hieghts
>>98726224That's all of themEvery follower of chaos is the gods abuse goblin, they just have their favorites
>>98726234how does an ork know this?
>>98726234We need to stop chaosfags from writing ork books.
>>98726230>>98726233free will is an illusion, both in 40k and IRL
>>98726234>Orks have more introspection than chaos followersInsane aura loss
Would it be lore breaking for me to write a story in which a sister of battle gets pregnant but really wants to keep the baby and so takes the pregnancy to term, but is then sent to the repentia for neglecting battle duties to have a baby
>>98726238its starbucks marxist atheists writing them though
Anyone got the new wargear options for intercessor sergeants?
>>98726243I dunno, ask /hhg/
>>98726243typing in a prompt is not "writing a story"
>>98726248>wargear optionslollmao
>>98726249I did and they all started masturbating.
Saw something cringe in the last thread. >sob are limited in their anti tank options, it's all short range melta that are always s8/s9>someone takes a large knight in a 1k point game>brags about winning>with a large knight at 1k points, against a notoriously low range and low strength anti-tank armyI would start by never taking a large knight at 1k, but even if I did that for some reason, I would not brag about it. Some people don't understand the spirit of sportsmanship.
>>98726241That's what I say when I'm feeling too lazy to paint my guys.
>>98726251says you
>>98726253No need to rub salt in the wound that is nu-marines. Still, Ihave an autistic obsession with keeping my kitbashes rules legal
>>98726244Like I said, chaosfags
>>98726256Yeah that was me and it was fun
>>98726256It's just cancerous really, no other way of putting it. Skew games, especially at 1000 points, are just bullshit plain and simple.
>>98726261I feel that.
>>98726125You telling me a guy who looks like a demigod with a halo and a flaming sword is the new emperor?
>>98726248They can take a bolt rifle.
>tqrule 34
>>98726255We have slightly bigger guys in armor who are T10.
>>98726234nu-lore ignore
>>98726256>someone posts models and games instead of shitposting>anon still seethes about it a whole thread later
>>98726255Its kind of crazy that this thing can just walk down the board eating lascannons and delete all of the infantry in your list in like 1 turn. T11 makes it invincible vs armies that dont have lascannon equivalents such as sisters, orks where the overwhelming majority of anti tank is S9/S10
>>98726256Realistically how do you beat knights at 1k? Do you do like what the larper did and take a bunch of terminators for 4++? 20 scarabs, 2 sorcerers, and 5 rubrics would be legal, right?
>>98726236Grotsnik has studied and researched the subjects of the Warp, the soul, and the divine.
>>98726269>a guy who looks like a demigod with a halo and a flaming sword
>>98725758Very newfag take lol. Why do you dumb retards never realize that the game has nearly 40 years of history the rest of us can look back on before you spout a newfag opinion? Space Marines end up as powercrept garbage all the time.
>>98726255>4++Its even sturdier than a knight.
>>98726282We all know it's you posting without your trip
>>98726280Knights are an AT skew list check at every levelYou just have to build your roster around only bringing AT weaponry, preferably that can also survive getting shot at (so tanks instead of things like guard heavy weapon squads).By nature of their stats being so high, it forces you to bring a skew list purpose-made to counter them.Fwiw, stat creep causes this on a reduced scale across the game, it's the core of the "the only reason to bring guardsmen is to capture objectives and screen for deepstrike so you only bring like 2 squads in a 2k point game" argument.
>>98726249Are you genuinely a bot? >>98726251Just because you don't know how to write doesn't mean that no one else can
>>98726256Yeah how dare someone post in these threads with painted models that dont look like garbage and actually use them in games
>>98726298Can't you also skew the other way and outscore by playing objectives with mobs Maybe not depending on the loadouts they bring...
I like orks :D
>>98725852Next up is blood splatter on the axe and bulldozer blade.
>>98726279Slapping a 3++ on the Lion, 4++ and -1D on this shows where the edition is going. I give it 8 months before we have invulnerable saves that work even against weapons that ignore invulnerable saves again.
James buffing the Custodes through the stratosphere and also making them the only army selling to both Horus Heresy and 40k players just reeks of "PLEEEASE BUY OUR TRANNY FEMSTODES MODELS PLEEEASE WE INVESTED ALL THIS MONEY AND THEY ARENT SELLING" lmaoI hope they flop so hard the guy who convinced them to add females gets shitcanned from the company and dives headfirst off the roof
>>98726288It’s like you didn’t even read your own post or any of the previous ones before posting while calling other people retard you retardThat’s literally exactly what they’re saying
>>98726267Skew goes against the spirit of wargaming. Wargaming was never about doing unintuitive or nonfluffy things for the sake of winning, it was about seeing how your dudes and your friend's dudes next battle plays out narratively. Wargaming got started as historical recreation, and then branched into it's own ruleset so it was a game as well, but even then the focus was narrative and seeing how things played out. It wasn't gamey nonsense like trying to come up with lists that your opponent can't interact with, and it certainly wasn't about bragging about it. I know I sound like an old man yelling at the clouds, but what I'm saying is all fact.>>98726280You don't interact. You win by sending scoring units to every objective around the board and interact with his models as little as possible, and ideally also tarpit them with some durable but you aren't trying or capable of killing anything. People will on points without killing a single model and never doing a single cool thing all game, and then say "it's not a problem, look I scored 5 more points and wrote down that I won the match". These people don't understand that 40k is about doing fun silly charges at each other and seeing what your dudes can do and seeing who the dice favors today. Those are foundations of fun wargaming and what the founders envisioned. It was not "I stood on this circle, never moved, and never fired my weapon. I won by 5 imaginary points".
>>98726312but WHY do you like them?
>new paints apparently self level without thinningThat’s pretty cool. I was always gonna buy some, but I think I might unironically pay pig if they’re legit good.
>>98726323Retard lol read both posts again
But do they like you?
>>98726324I agree pretty much, only issue is that things have changed completely. 40k itself is more of a board game when it used to have one foot firmly planted in TTRPG territory. Now it's slanted heavily towards being incredibly gamey. You really just have to look at all of the dorks wearing team jerseys poring over codices for hours upon hours to wring every tiny advantage out of the rules, it's a heinous state of affairs.
>>98726316what the hell even ignores invulnerable saves? It was already rare and mortal wounds was the counter to invulns but now units with invulns can easily get 4+ feel no pains vs mortals
>>98726306>m.jpgopinion discarded
>>98726331Look at this guy cant even read smgdh
If I wanted to make colored metals do I need to do silver basecoat + contrast? All the paint guides I can see do that. Can I use watered down regular paint to tint the metal instead or will it look like ass?
>>98726324>a man who understands the spirit of wargamingBased post
>>98726330They have a video of it going on thick and drying super thin and also of their new white covering full black evenly in a single coat. I'm skeptical
>>98726324>it was about seeing how your dudes and your friend's dudes next battle plays out narratively.>40k is about doing fun silly charges at each other and seeing what your dudes can do and seeing who the dice favors today40k hasnt been either of those things since 8th edition. Thats that HH and TOW are for.
>>98726344Mixing coloured paint in with a bright silver will give you a coloured metallic, a contrast over silver will give you a tinted silver.
>>98726326I’m going to lazy, and just repost this. there’s lots of reasons, but the main one for me is they just have an insane amount of freedom for what you can have them be, and this comes from tone, gimmicks, and power scaling.for the tone, there’s a sliding scale for how serious or silly they can be, so you’re completely allowed to have them be soulless 6’4 rape apes that mercilessly butcher everyone and love to torture any survivors, or you can have be goofy little guys getting up to looney toons tier hijinks, or you can have a little in between where they’re serious and murderous, but just a little slow and like to have fun a lot which adds to their humor.then there’s the klans which give you a lot of gimmicks to choose from like barbarian hordes, dreadmobs, pirates, cyborgs, ect.there’s another set of gimmicks for blood axes who like to larp as other militaries which is cool, and its another sliding scale between how well they perform at larping. it can be just giving them makeshift medals and titles, and calling it a day, or it can be outright military organization and ranks with proper uniforms.finally there’s powerscaling where you’re able to justify them in any warzone. a big problem for some armies is that sometimes it doesn’t make sense for certain matchups or them to be in a certain place. GSC, Imperial Agents, Custodes, and even Marines come to mind for this. this isn’t really a problem for orks because they’re fucking everywhere, and they also are on yet another sliding scale where their depiction could be either jobber hordes that suffer insane causalities frequently even by a simple company of guardsmen, or outright able to go toe-to-toe with a company of space marines.
>>98726311That's also an option, but "score imaginary points" is the opposite of fun to me so I'd much rather actually play the game.Knights also have plenty of anti-horde weaponry; Armiger Warglaives can wipe a 10-man guard squad in 1 attack with a melee from the chain-cleaver sweep (s8ap-2, ws 3+, 8 attacks at 1d each but gets 2 more if you charged for the full wipe), and that's before counting the attacks from their heavy stubber.All that in a unit that costs 5 points LESS than 20 guardsmen.
>>98726324This guy gets it
>>98725587There was also a rumour engine a while back that looked very much like the bonesinger's instrument from a strange angle.
>>98726350>40k hasnt been either of those things since 8th edition.Yeah we know thats why it sucks now>thats what HH is forNo it isnt faggot, HH is for retarded autists who want every game to be marines vs marines
>>98726350>Sorry your huge setting game that used to be an awesome vehicle for telling stories with your dudes should actually be a soulless, depressing sweaty tournament gameYeah sure whatever.
>>98726326I get an alien horde army that isnt the bug hivemind trope for the 800th time. that gets to fight with guns and armored vehicles.
>someone posted their knights 6 hours ago>one retard is still angry about it
>>98726320>gets shitcanned from the company and dives headfirst off the roofGW is mostly hiding the females as best they can, the exec that demanded them got suicided a long time ago
>>98726373It's not enough until they issue a public apology
>>98726352What's the difference between the two in practice?
>>98726118>>98726099My bad, the game is tonight. That game was back in 10th.I'm hoping the wolves can keep up with the ork codex. Gaining 2cp each of my turns alone was enough to always have a tactical edge against my last opponent. Set aside any of the army changes.
>>98726373>GW is mostly hiding the females as best they can
>>98726349If they have a legit good bone/ivory color that doesn’t require me to put 30 coats on for good coverage I’ll be a happy camper. There is tentative excitement and anticipation for the new paints.
>>98726376Contrast dries matt so it will look less metallic for one
>>98726376One looks like an actual painted metallic and can be highlighted and shaded and the other is kind of flat.
>>98725801Is there a fluffy context for a Lord of Skull to be wearing AL colors? I'm guessing the Vashtor in the back is also silver and teal?
>>98726350Horus Heresy is for ultra competitive marine fags, It is everything wrong with modern 40k but with some extra nostalgia bait rules tacked on. Theres insane primarch faggotry in HH and balance is still fucked so most people ignore like 75% of the options in the game. For example theres basically no reason to ever take missile launchers over lascannons in a devastator squad since lascannons are way better at killing vehicles and can also be used to snipe terminators because of the all or nothing armor save system while krak missiles dont have enough AP so terminators still get the full save.
>>98726380>that’s a woman?
>>98726392Its hilarious, half the reason space marines used to have all these different weapon options is because there were all different kinds of diverse xenos races to fight and they stuck them in a game where they basically just fight other marines and now all that shit is useless.
>>98726361How would you know nigga you dont play HH?
>>98726404Yeah unless someone brings imperial milita then flamers are literally worthless because even the strongest ones cant do anything against regular marine armor
>>98726410Yeah because like 6 of the factions I play arent in HH which is making my point, its clearly not a replacement for the narrative wargame that 40k used to be, its an extremely narrow little autistic containmnet zone.
>>98726384>>98726385Thanks. I wanted to try a metallic black base for some machinery parts so I'll try the former and mix silver + black before putting on the base.
>>98726422Try a darker metallic to mix with like gunmetal or leadbelcher, a bright silver will just darken into a grey before turning black and lose out on the metal effect.
>>98725610>originally bodyguards for officialsThey were always bodyguards for the emperor and no one else.
>>98726422Black Templar contrast over a silver basecoat looks pretty damn nice
>>98726421It’s the horus heresy retardIt’s about the horus heresy lolYou don’t know anything about the game you don’t play itYou just don’t like getting mogged by marines because ironically the rotting bloated carcass of your containment game that you cant move on from sucks ass
>>98726244I wonder which tendency he supports
>>98726422You're only going to get good coloured metallics with inks or buying actual coloured metallics. Don't fall for the silver + normal paint shit. The finish will never look right.
>>98726432I thought i remembered them doing other bodyguard work in RT but yeah you are right, my bad.
>>98726320They would've made custodes busted regardless anyway.GW buffed marines this edition, custodes have to be better than marines, so they get massive buffs. It's just basic knowledge.
>>98725970i mean it depend on how do you like to playone of each would workthen see if you like them then you add more
>>98726373>GW is mostly hiding the females as best they canNot really.They only deleted 1 scene of female custodes from their 1 trailer. Something that can be done from Youtube itself at this point.They left rest of the scenes that showed them in.
Anyone else think they didn't go far enough with Space Marines? Like they could have made them more elite and justified a few more points higher on each unit?
>>98726470And they have not appeared in any video or image they have put out since them.
How do you say his name?
>>98726476YOU JUST KNOW
>>98726466I just bought one of each (except warptalon because it's out of stock) so fuck it we ball
>>98726477Peter Turbo
>>98726475>And they have not appeared in any video or imageGW has done literally fuck all with the custodes since they revealed the new models. Not surprising there is no new videos or images.This preview article is the first one in a long time.
>>98726476In an alternate universe the primarchs are all women and instead of being generals their task was to give birth to space marines as infinite soldier factories.
>>98726489"It was a shitpost", is not a valid reason to say these things to people.
>>98726485So I'm correct but you want to argue for no reason, got it.
>>98726489>their task was to give birth to space marines as infinite soldier factoriesthat would be unironically pretty cool
>>98726490Pop the trip back on little one>>98726475They know they fucked up lol
>>98726493>nuh uh, ur wronk i'm right!!I accept your concession.
>>98726504I mean yeah, quite literally anon.Have they appeared in anything since the reveal?Were the included in these new photos?No, not at all.I don't understand why this has you so upset
>>98726483warp talon is always sold out cause well it double as raptorand raptor is also decent corsair is just legionaries but not a must havechosen is nice if you dont have any more FF is always nicehuron is the best lord atmcultist is chaffdesu I woulnt buy culist as is cause they always come in a big box and you only need 10-20 at most
>someone posted their knights>shitty slop paintjob>bragged about stomping SoB at 1k points>thinks we careIf you're still here, you're against everything warhammer stands for
>>98726490It's not a shitpost. I came up with the idea because I am horny and I want to fuck the 20 foot tall blonde tomboy. Many times. Hundreds of thousands of times even. If that's what the great crusade needs of course. >>98726496Yeah it makes sense right? It's grimdark, it's biologically coherent at least with the idea that the space marines are meant as a step towards a more evolved humanity, etc. And the marines' huge obsession with their primarchs would make more sense I think if they were their biological parents instead of just dudes that donated some dna to make their upgrade suite
>>98726501Sanguinius would also work because everyone in the galaxy already wants to fuck him and also he's dead
>>98726508>GW makes no new images of custodes at all not even male ones>bro they are hiding the female custodesIf they were hiding the female custodes they'd be making images and videos that only showed only male ones. They aren't making any images or videos for custodes as a whole. And it makes sense, there's nothing for GW to release on them or any news about the faction until now.And even the pics we did get still utilize the new custodes who are all half female half male, so no, GW isn't even hiding them.With your logic GW is hiding the Catachans too because they haven't made any images or videos about catachans in like years.
>>98726489the best timeline
>>98726521would sanguinius trying to 1v1 horus be considered a form of assisted suicide like suicide by cop?
>>98726509I already had cultists so it's cool, also is Angron mandatory? he's expensive as fuck.
>>98726256yeah its why you need a sideboard of units you can swap in to your army depending on who you are against.
>>98726522>GW makes no new images of custodes at all not even male onesBro the new images on the website right now?Show me a female custodian in the new article.
>>98726477TURBOTASTIC!
>>98726501just imagine how much sex female fulgrim would have had with ferrus manus
>old man yaoi
>>98726536
>>98726524Ikr? The imperium would have easily conquered the galaxy with minimal chaos corruption>>98726525Sanguinius isn't a tranny
>>98726556
>>98726556>>98726536I'm happy someone is playing the game but the fully unpainted tank hurts>>98726528I unironically agree. You should be able to register your army list at 2500 points and simply remove 500 points of them after seeing your opponent's list. Without the ability to swap detachments, enhancements, or upgrades though
>>98726552Man can you shut the fuck up?>>98726522No they know they fucked upThe codex is coming out next so it would make sense for them to be trying to build hypeBut they fucked up so
>>98726359there aren't many rumor engines left
>>98726525It isn't already?
>>98726556I see those trays all the time where are they from?
>>98726528It's one of the strength of mtg and 40k adopting a similar sideboard system would improve the game. But you get a lot of people who see anything related to card games (even though this is a concept that is not necessarily exclusive to card games) and their brain turns to mush and they lose reasoning skills.Your list is 2000 points. Then you also have a 500 point sideboard that you can swap into your list before the match after seeing your opponent's list. It makes total sense. For most people, the vast majority of sideboards would just address skew. Which funny enough is exactly what it does for mtg. Most mtg sideboards have graveyard hate and storm hate, which are two linear strategies that take advantage of specific rules or game elements that most people aren't equipped for with an average deck.
>>98726567Holy fuck how old is that spider skull now
>>98726555orikan was a young man when he biotransferred
>>98726536>>98726556>>98726563>all this unpainted plasticit's just sad honestly
>>987265744 years nowit will keep taunting us forever because his miniature got cancelled before release
>>98726572I dunno it was my opponents>>98726565His army is white so its not as bad seeing a white tank
>>98726567Spider head is from an incarnate they designed before scrapping the idea after the massive community backlash from the first one>>987265744 years
>>98726576>in his feelings over someone else’s toysSad honestly
>>98726573If you need a sideboard to address one issue, why isn't it possible to just make the issue go away instead?
>>98726566no
>>98726593Because if you overspecialize it can cause other issues.
>>98726593Because having diverse playstyles in a game is also a big draw that gets people playing it
>>98726532>Show me a female custodian in the new article.Literally in the first image.And we know this is a female one because female custodes models have smaller feet, narrower upper torsos and their torsos do have boob armor on them. Which this one also has.
>>98726606In this case, the issue is that the "diverse playstyhle" in question has something that many armies cannot easily deal with without heavily leaning into the units that can deal with it. I think invalidating entire swathes of an army's armoury because it doesn't really affect their opponent is frustrating and kind of shitty. Likewise, from a knight players' perspective: wouldn't it suck to get into a match with a guy only to see him swap out a chunk of his army for units that'll ruin your day?I don't know, seems unsatisfactory to me.
>>98726615Okay it seems I was wrong and I'm willing to admit that.There was a single one in one image.
>>98726593What you're proposing is to fundamentally change both horde armies and elite armies. Knights, custodes, and every faction that has the ability to field a horde would have to be changed in very fundamental ways, such as all knights being reduced in toughness and wounds across the board. You certainly could fundamentally change half the factions in the game to make it so players can't skew anymore, and a well-rounded list becomes the most sensible thing to take, but that's more work than just making a sideboard system, which would use existing models and rules. The people who play those armies and like playing big knights or like playing 80 guants would also lose something, if that's actually legitimately what a person enjoys (and they're not doing it for gameplay advantage) then I wouldn't want those people to lose something they enjoy. Fielding 80 termagaunts is a legitimate part of the game and a legitimate fantasy of the nid player because it's fluffy and thematic. They should still be able to do that. But if their opponent came prepared with a sideboard that has a bunch of flamers or blast weapons, then now both players get to have a fair match with no skew and nobody feeling bad since their army doesn't interact well before units are even deployed.At the end of the day, that's the fundamental issue. If your army doesn't interact well with what your opponent is doing before units have even been deployed and no gameplay decisions have even been made, then that's a game design flaw. mtg addresses it with the sidebaord. 40k sort of lightly addresses it by elite armies often losing on points and objectives but that doesn't address the issue of fun gameplay and feeling like the spirit of the game is being upheld. Standing on an imaginary circle with 80 guardsmen who just die in droves without doing anything cool and no stories to tell after the game is bad, even if you win by 10 points.
>>98726476I'm genuinely salivating over this image desu. Look how tasteful it is. Big boobs without having retarded anime proportions. No abs that look weird and out of place on a female, but also not fat and clearly well built with nice feminine hips and thighs. Obviously fun loving but also capable of being serious when called for. Perfection incarnate.
>shes still seething over knights because someone posted some
>>98726590>>Spider head is from an incarnate they designed before scrapping the idea after the massive community backlash from the first oneThere is the first one?
>>98726615>took 20 minutes to findReally front and centre aren't they?So much for "half female half male" as you said before.
>>98726567Somehow I feel like Solomon Akurra model been cancelled or something like that.
>>98726255Lame that you can't take double guns anymore.
>>98726629The easiest solution is that knights do not belong in the game unless it's Apocalypse. Trying to cram knights into the same sort of thing as a horde of guardsmen/nids isn't really equivalent because knights are a much further skew than those would ever be.
Which Baneblade variant is the most "versatile" to have?I can figure out which ones are meant for which roles, but I'm not sure how I should really be building my roster around them.This is a 245 USD tank and I'd rather not waste money building a tank that sounds really cool on-paper but is just bad in-game.My natural inclination is the Stormsword for an actual vehicle and the Hellhammer for a "command tank" that can also carry its own weight.The Shadowsword having ap-5 feels counter-intuitive as well because of how many things have coin-toss invuln saves.
>>98726615That's clearly brother Robert.
>>98725552Your knights sure caused a lot of butthurt
>>98726615how can GW claim that femstodes always existed when they femstodes looks visually distinct and there were never any previous custodes that looked that way?
>>98726573Sideboards greatly favour armies with specialist units over armies with generalist units, and armies with large amounts of options over armies with fewer options.This is a problem because some armies are obligated skewed lists that would need to be balanced with the idea that the enemy will always be a tailor made list to deal with them, and at the end of this arms race the generalist armies with few options fall short.Either you make skew lists illegal, you give everyone the tools to deal with skew lists, if not through units then through purchasable bombardments and whatnot, or you rebalance the whole game around the idea of skew lists being skewed only at glance, and equally brought down by specialist equipment or generalist units played a certain way.A sideboard also raises the cost of the game, which is a negative.
>>98726664the one that looks the coolestall other answers are wrong
>>98726629>and no stories to tellthis. this game is supposed to be about fun and telling stories after the game about what happened. if your knight opponent's skew forces you to simply stand on circles to win and you have absolutely nothing interesting to say after the match about what your dudes did, then the game has failed. the issue has nothing to do with win rate
>>98726678True3 Baneswords it is then
>>98726687Not that anon but I have a story just like that when my friend and I returned to the hobby and went to the LGS to play a game>Sperg that played marines years ago now plays knights>Haha let's play a friendly game>My friends' dark eldar go up against all knights>Has zero answer for anything>Just gets to watch this sperg get visibly excited over a one-sided stompfest>Maybe wounded a knight a few times>Guy is bragging about how his knights have all these cool stratagems like how he can throw his vehicle into another for mortal wound or whateverIt was depressing to watch.
>>98726645has the related book been released or even announced officially? I thought we just knew about it from a leak
>>98726680Too true. And the knights are painted so they can't go for their usual "unpainted plastic" cope
>>98726566nah
>>98726640>20 minutes to findI literally found it in less than 10 seconds because I know what to look for.
>>98726255Regular Telly is 225pts T10 W12 2+ 4++ so this might not actually cost all that much more points-wise.
so now that custodes have female models, can we all agree their the cringeist army to own now
>>98726720Nah knights and space wolves are slightly more cringe
>>98726720No, that's still space wolves.
>>98726720Always have been
>>98726720space marines are still worse
Whats the coolest knight house?
If your favorite faction is the Leagues of Votann you are a homosexual whos on HRT
>>98726618But both players can swapFundamentally in a game with enough different playstyles some sort of rock paper scissors effect will happen. This happens in overwatch. This happens in magic. This happens everywhere. You can't just delete all the different playstyles because that deletes a big part of the reason why people play your game in the first place. If people wanted to play a game with exactly symmetrical resources, they would play chess or counterstrike instead of magic or overwatch. In this very thread we already had someone mention how HH gameplay invalidates a lot of wargear because so many defensive profiles are the same. People WANT to have different playstyles available to them, that's why they're playing 40k and not HH or risk or something. Hence, you try to balance and moderate the worst of the bad matchups with various techniques instead of just throwing every different playstyle in the garbage. Magic does it with a sideboard, overwatch does it by letting you swap heroes.
>>98726746So your favourite faction is LoV?
>rage cursed onslaughtHow does one play vs. turbofast blood angels running at you with advance and charge and 25 attacks that can just autowipe my t3/5+ neophytes.
>>98726761>favourite Its spelled favorite.
>>98726767its spelled favrit
>>98726766You screen with the neophytes so something can shoot the marines on your next turn to kill themOr you swarm objectives with so many bodies that your opponent has to commit his marines and then you shoot them off next turn
>>98726760 okay, so imagine that you are playing Knights and your opponent swaps out to all of his anti-tank because he sees he's playing against Knights. What do you do in that situation as a knights player who has a grand total of 12 units to choose from in their entire Army roster?
>>98725540>tqthe finishing steps of a paintjob, when all the pieces are finally stacked in full
>>98725552Nice knight anon
>>98726771The point is that you shouldn't be playing knights
>>98726777Says who, you? Who are you?
>>98726760>In this very thread we already had someone mention how HH gameplay invalidates a lot of wargear because so many defensive profiles are the sameThat's because 90% of games are marines vs marines -- it's utterly pointless to bring flamers and shit the same way it's utterly pointless to bring your army's baseline weapon against a skew army like knights. It's not fun when up to half of your army is unplayable because the other army's common unit is just too tough for them.You have to know when to put a limit on things as well: sorry, but some playstyles deserve to go to the garbage because they aren't fun and they skew the game too much.I reiterate: knights just don't belong in the game the same way the navy doesn't belong in the game.
>>98726777Okay, so imagine you're playing a T3 elf army and your opponent rotates in all of their indirect fire and even your fucking transports are only T6 and can't survive even when hidden. What are you supposed to do about that?
>>98726780I'm the king of warhammer
All of 40k is really nothing more than an epilogue to the Horus Heresy, which is where all the real fun is.
>>98726787Well I didn't vote for you
>>98726790Dunno, go ask /hhg/
>>98726790holy gigaton trvke
>>98726805What's in the thundershock lance?
>>98726791>I didn’t vote for you
>>9872679040k Chaos feels more fun than HH Traitors since there are more Daemon Engines and Chaos Marines feel more distinct.Honestly 40k doesn't really need xenos any more though.
>>98726566>they fucked upNot a fuck up when nothing happened from it.
>>98726697Yeah, Mike Brooks in the special edition intro even says he saw the model
>>98726771Why would that bother me? Knights have tons of anti armor profiles already. Under these rules I can also swap out my stuff to more effectively counter his list. It's not a big deal. I would also probably be happy that fewer people will hate me for playing knights now that they don't feel powerless against them anymore
>>98726811knights
>>98726785Indirect fire sucks in this ed but even if you do the same example with tanks I just rotate in my fire dragons with fuegan or my wraithknight with twin heavy wraithcannons. If anything this benefits me as the eldar player because if my opponent just happens to have a lot of anti-chaff by luck with no ability to adapt I'm screwed entirely
>>98726823>>98726790Extremely terrible opinions, enjoy your uncanon primarch slop.
>>98726639Krondspine
>>98726839HH has a more consistent canon than 40k has ever had, and has become the basis for 40k's canon in general.
>>98726771In that situation, which is the same one everyone has been talking about so far, you are happy that the game will be more fair for your opponenet. You already skewed, you're already the bad guy that took an option that you know skews the game and you know some percentage of innocent people who just made a balanced list will have no recourse against you than to just stand on circles and hope they outscore you. You've already thrown the first stone because you don't actually like wargames, you like starcraft. So your opponent using his sideboard to remove a few flamers and replace them with a few melta is totally fine, will objectively improve the experience for him, and he's just undoing the damage you did to the balance of the match so you dare not complain about your opponent having a few more meltas than he did before sideboarding because that just proves that knight players WANT to skew and gain that advantage. You are complaining about your opponent actually gaining tools to interact with your models. You should feel ashamed of yourself, and this moment should be a wakeup call for you.>but what if my opponent sideboards in a bunch of meltas!That's literally the point you dumb selfish fuck.
>>98726850hh is irrelevant
>>98726850HH is wanking sweaty men. They might as well start putting out books for the 2nd and 11th legions.
>still seething about knights
>*barely muffled, grotesque squelching shart*
>>98726850You're absolutely correct, which is why 40k's canon keeps getting worse and worse as the years go by.
>space marines stood by for ten thousand years and allowed the imperium to degenerate into a stagnant theocracy after having waged a crusade in the name of ostensibly enlightened scientific rationalismw h a t
>>98726886The post-heresy structure of the imperium was designed specifically to break the legions into small chapters, the Badab war is an example of what you're asking for "powerful fighty space marines opposing imperial tyranny" but 4000 space marines could not stand against the unified might of the imperial forces. The system is working as designed.>theocracyAlso many chapters, notably the black templars who cheat and have 6600 space marines or the space wolves with 3300 marines, worship the emperor as a God/the All-Father rather than the logician theory.Even science autism marines like the Iron Hands consider the emperor to be the Omnissiah, not a super tech guy.
>>98726886What's funnier custodes did that too, but they also just sulked inside the palace naked.
>>98726856Maytbe they'll get it.
>>98726886Marines aren't 10000 years old, they degenerated together with the imperium into what they are.
Took yall's advice and decided to edge highlight it my modelI also went over the copper and steel with another wash of nuln oil and guilimen flesh
>>98726919Nice job anon
>>98726919Nice work anon, he has a lot more depth than the last time you posted him.
>wake up>grab a brush and put a little makeup (cause it's fagmarine talk again)What is it with this timezone? Is it Amerimutts?>>98726790>>98726850Fuck OFF to /hhg/. The meme isn't just funny it's a direction, take your primarchslop there.
>>98726937Primarchs are more interesting than xenos.
2010 ones were still peak
>>98726940anon... please... no more trvkes...
>>98726940I don't really find grown men with daddy issues very compelling
>>98726894>the Badab war is an example of what you're asking for "powerful fighty space marines opposing imperial tyranny"The Badab War happened because Huron was intensely arrogant and believed (perhaps correctly) that he was better at doing Imperial tyranny better than anyone else and got mad when the wider Imperium didn't give him the resources he wanted to do said tyranny.
>>98726948Hope the new kit has the broken helmet as an option, it's kino.
>>98726958>grown menspace marines are not grown mensome primarchs would not even qualifythe great tragedy of space marines and their fathers is that they're all homunculi child soldiery that never got the chance to be anything else
>>98726940Yet people prefer 40k to HH, curious
>>98726965They're grown. They had upbringings on their planets. They just found out they had a space dad and started getting all catty over him
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98726968>They had upbringings onyeah i would not call what a few of them faced much of an upbringing even if some enjoyed more earnest semblances of such a thing
Horus Heresy should've remained a myth and you can't convince me otherwise
>>98726964The lack of any bits showing of the cursed and unnatural state of the marines themselves is pretty disappointing
>>98726940You only think this because eitherA) you're into capeshit and/orB) GW has put more love and attention to mahreens because of retards like you buying up their slop at unprecedented ratesIn either case most of the primarchs are dead/missing in 40K so it's offtopic, primarch discussion belongs in /hhg/. Have you asked them?
>>98726967HH is a part of 40k
>>98726962He was a freedom fighter.
>>98726979Nope
>mutant gave himself a trip just so he can take it off and slip into gay marine discussion without people pointing him outCalling it now.
>>98726940Yeah if you like this huge interesting galaxy to feel very very tiny.
>>98726974>>98726964>pop head off skeleton>put on marine body>now you have a skelemarineWowThat was the hardest thing anyone ever did
lotd dudes should have made legionaries look tame in how warp-touched they arecsm^2 uno reverse card shit y'knowhati'msaiyan?
>>98726940which is why you want to desperately be in 40k while noone cares about being in hh
>>98726979Why does it have its own general then nignog?
>>98726985YepIts contained within the 40k universeIts an event in the loreIts like saying “there are more history buffs than there are civil war buffs” like no shit lol
>>98727000For people who are specifically interested in that one subsection of 40k lore and the game system associated with itObviously
>>98726967Marines are by far the most popular faction and each individual Primarch is more popular than most entire Xenos factions.
>>98727009Repeat that without sounding desperate.
>>98727003>contained within the 40k universe>but it happened in 30KNever go full retard.>>98727007>For people who are specifically interested in that one subsection of 40k loreLike you girls who are here right now talking primarchs? Hmmm curious...
>>98727003It's a precursor to 40k referenced in 40. It's no more a part of 40k than fantasy, which is also referenced in 40k.Also it's more like saying there are more WWII buffs than Civil War buffs
>>98726968>They're grown. They had upbringings on their planets. They just found out they had a space dad and started getting all catty over himLorgar got upset because dad told him he was not allowed to worship him, so he found "the real gods" and 4 new gay space dads (5 if you count vash'torr)Angron did not need a space dad, his brain was ruined anyway, some might argue the emperor could have won him over by helping him defeat the high riders but I disagree since Angron's philosophy of rage expanded towards a higher sentiment of "fuck tyrants" and he saw the emperor as a tyrantMortarian just wanted to be in his goon cave and play world of warcraft and the emperor stole that from himMagnus loved his dad, but then tried to kill himself, then decided actually tzeentch is his dadHorus was the jealous one, but Horus' characterization doesn't make sense as the Gayresey implies he was always an ambitious dick who thought he'd run the imperium o algo and that pretending to be a loyal son was itself a ruseAlpharius disagreed with Omegle how things should be and one of them betarded the other, while the other was a loyal hyperindoctrinated soldier for the emperorIron Man seems to have had actual autism and his entire concept of family was that eventually his father would betray him, and so would space dad, so better to betray them both first before they can betray him Macedonian style Alexander the Great killing Phillip politickingComrade Curse didn't even try he just accepted he was.... like, so sick and twisted inside, you don't even knowthere's other guys I'm forgetting but they kind of suck anywayThe ones with the biggest daddy issues besides logan and horus are the loyalists who constantly question whether "dad" loved them at all, but that doesn't make sense for guys like Girlyman because his parents raised him in a mostly loving home.
>>98727009Yet no one plays the Marine and primarch game.
>>98727023Have you tried asking /hhg/?
>>9872702040k is the whole thingPrimarchs get discussed here frequently which always pisses a particularly autistic subsection of the thread off, such as yourself, which is very funny>>98727021Nuhuh
>>98726986It's pretty obvious he did it to reply to himself with the trip off
>>98727031He didnt ask a question
>>98727016Anon there are more people who like GuillimanXYvraine memes than there are people who like Eldar.The most well known thing The Silent King has ever done is imply he met Sanguinius.Any time Isha is ever mentioned it's followed by people talling about how Russ will save her, not the Eldar.People are already expecting that the current Armageddon conflict is going to peak with Angron showing up again, not Ghaz.You're free to cope however you want, but Primarchs are by far more popular than xenos.
>>98727033>Primarchs get discussed here frequentlyIt's like you're being obtuse on purpose. The point is that they shouldn't be discussed here frequently because they have their own containment general. Fuck off to it.
>>98727040>Self reporting like this.
>>98727040I said WITHOUT sounding desperate.
>>98727023Carnac shut up
>>98727040Now that's projecting.
When I don't buy warhammer stuff, my spending on non-essentials drops to near zero.
>>98727040Primarchs may be more popular than Eldar or Tau, but definitely not Orks or Nids or even Necrons.
Hellblasters?
>>98726312Insane how better his old model looks
>>98727009put the trip back on, faggot
I expected to be hit by lightning for daring to paint daemons that are canonically rainbow-colored as anything but blue and pink, nothing happened.
>>98727083You can stomp your feet and throw a little toddler tanty as much as you like about people calling you out, however the fact remains that there is a general better suited for the discussion you want to have. You've been talking about 30K events, why not take it to the 30K general? Or do they also get annoyed at your tertiary asses spewing space daddy slop lore talk?
>>98727108>deletedAhahahaha get fucking WRECKED nerds. Primarchwank is offtopic in /40kg/, official mod ruling.
Royal Dorn and Peter Turbo get into a WWE style cage match. Who wins?
>>98727083>The actual point is that it’s actually verifiably on-topic because it doesn't get banned
>>98727104I will still never forgive them for turning these into those goofy looking shits. Are you working on a daemons army, anon?
I miss waifus and tomboy posting
>>98727122Dunno, ask the /Homo Heretica General/
>>98727122>WWE styleTheyxstand around bitching at each other for 10 minutes, Dorn does a really shitty spear into an Elbow Drop that clearly misses, Perturabo still oversells it a ton, and then Alpharius runs in and hits Dorn with a chair before dragging Peter over him for the 3-count.There's two commercial breaks during this entire debacle, and in the end when Perterabo a guy in an Ork mask runs into the ring as the announcers talk about SQUIG Root Beer and how great it is to be sponsored by them.
>>98727150>when Perterabo a guy*when Perterabo stands upGuess I need to proofread shitposts.
Post your models and WIP'S anons.
>>98727156Wow, I love my images sideways.
>PrimarchsI want to make marine sized primarchs. Then I have them fight classic 3rd/4th edition skirmishes, 1500 pts grand maximum.Because primarchs were legendary leaders, sure, but they were just that. Living, mortal example. And some endured after the heresy, fought the same battles as the marines who would succeed them. They may have been the smartest, most cunning, or even most martially capable of their era. But the scale was the same. They too could meet their end on a green, grassy field, from a lucky pot shot, unsaved by power armor.
>>98727040Trvke
>>98727156https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhz3MoNRMeY
>>98727156Is that supposed to be fucking rainbow dash>>98727145Tomboys...
>>98727145mmm... tomboy primarchs...
>>98726770I usually drop them on an objective to kill their "killy" stuff and then be a pest for the rest but they get to make so many attacks that the Neophytes just drop dead when things like Death Company hit.I play vs. my friend's Blood Angels all the time but it'll be my first time against that one detachment. I won this one with a 25pts difference something, I think what won me the game was covering my Neophytes with cheap stuff upfront. I'll try to do the same again.
>>98727139Pink ones are kinda lame but the blue ones are a bit more fun somehow.Not a daemon army, just souping with CSM, picrel is what I'm gonna play against my bro in a couple weeks. Hopefully the same faggot that gets pissy every time I post a chaos soup isn't around today.
>>98727156finished this small dude yesterday
>>98726919Looks great bro. Try and use the flat side of your brush when edge highlighting and just gently touch the model. You wanna minimize contact. Also, Id recommend adding another metallic color to your gun. Making the whole thing silver makes it too monotone. Add a dark gold or something to something like the spikes or those tabs on the sides, break up the color. Consider breaking up the monotony of your wings too with some dark reds on the inside and bright red highlights.Also I see you painted his eyes white, you could add a bright orange/red/green/whatever contrast paint carefully over it if you wanna give it a glow effect.
>>98727191Thanks I'll try to get to those later today and post the finished resault
>>98727186I haven't seen that, what does he get pissy about?
>>98727167Nope. Primarchs were only "generals" for a year since RT or so. By 1989 they were the superhuman demigods we know.
>>98727218>Primarchs were only "generals"Russ in RT rulebook was a marine and the founder and leader of the Space Wolves.
Could I run these guys as Intercessors?
>>98727218>nopeWhat do you mean "nope"? That is my vision, you can't tell me what my vision is nigga, get the fuck out.
>>98727241yeah, the size and scale and equipment match, but not the aesthetic, you would have to make the whole army look like that and justify it in some convoluted way like
>>98727241Kinda fucked up these guys have more ranged weapon upgrades than actual Intercessors.
>>98727241I never understood people liking terran marines the designs are so dogshit compared to the zerg and protoss
>>98726206Because only the Crimson Fists pull it off well.
>>98727108Based
>30 defilers arrived at lgs today>xmass stocki wonder if by end of year there will be a discount, not like i want more than my current one but just in case
>>98727285Cool ultramarine, bro
>>98727285>CRIMSON fists>paints the fist maroonbeat this man to death
Why are marinepiggies upset that other factions are getting bullshit buffs as well? Is this what happens when you are too used to getting everything all the time?
>>98727171Don't you know about the rainbow warriors anon?
>>98726790The Horus Heresy is mogged to death by 40k lore like Armageddon and the Battle for Macragge, the heart and soul of the setting is humanity fighting vicious and repugnant aliens.
>>98727156I hate this lolGood job
>>98727310Stay in your discord
>>98727171>Is that supposed to be fucking rainbow dashNewfag I...
>>98725552my last game was against orks :D lost 79-87
>>98727310What other factions are getting bullshit buffs?Orks? Custodes?
>>98727325shouldn't the reason be that men are better at fighting and using resources on making women soldiers is fucking stupid and a waste of resources
FUCK YOU GWI WILL NOT BUY VICTRIX HONOUR GUARD ON THEIR OWNRELEASE THE ULTRAMARINE COMBAT PATROL(6 victrix honour guard, some named character like tigurius, and a landspeeder or something idk)
>>98727332B-but custodes though…
>>98727325PRAISE BE!
>>98727170>>98727323I did a rush job at midnight because I didn't want to forget to put something for the collage in time, I'll clean it up at some point between tomorrow and 5 years from now.
>>98727334Now that I think of it this is kind of a small combat patrol but I want that fucking combat patrol
>>98727280I don't like zergs, they look like rocks held together with chewed bubblegum instead of aliens.
>>987273347 Calgars and a land raider
>>98725612I'm furious that I'm gonna end up collateral damage to Marinefag/custodesissies brinkmanship AGAIN.
>>98727334>and a landspeeder or something idkYour wish has been granted, the combat patrol will contain a Rhino.
I did not care for Space King. It insists upon itself.
>>98727331Custodes Dreadnoughts are becoming as fast and tough as Questoris Knights, and almost as killy. All while being like half the cost of a Knight.
>>98727325>why are your soldiers only menOnce did a game where there were so many enemies that I joked the enemies were fucking and birthing new minions as we're fighting them. It was very annoying to experience, jokes aside.
>>98727366BUT I DON'T WANT A RHINO I WANT A LANDSPEEDER
>>98727368They are really desperate to put on the paper for investors that their femstodes push was successful.
>>98727367It's funny because I genuinely think the problem with modern 40k lore as opposed to the older stuff is it insists upon itself now.
>>98727300'Tis a superior colour for a superior culture
>>98727367Nah its funny>>98727368Thats kinda wild
>>98727367Episode 1 and 5 are great the ones in between are okay, I have a feeling 5 can't be topped and was already sagging/wearing thin in some places and thus the joke will beat itself into the ground.However they made 6 million dollaridoos from the franchise so they made it I guess.
>>98727383The seeds have finally sprouted.
>>98726279> T11 makes it invincible vs armies that dont have lascannon equivalents such as sisters, orks where the overwhelming majority of anti tank is S9/S10It's probably going to cost 500 points.
>>98727386I thought Episode 3 was the funniest one actually. Episode 5 was lacking on the comedy side for the most part but was the most badass action one by a mile.
>>98727361The only realistic solution IMO is to bring the lethality of the entire game way, way back down to 3rd/4th edition levels where it's much easier to make Marines stand out as a bit tougher without warping the entire game around it and causing an arms race that completely invalidates weaker weapons and makes it almost physically impossible for units with traditionally more fragile defensive profiles to so much as exist somewhere on the table.
>>98727310>"marinepiggies">*looks inside*>gold marinesDon't act like bananafags aren't just the marine players but gayer
>>98727414Banana boys are marines but cooler. The fact that they cause so much seethe by being better and more elite is an extra bonus.
>>98727420I like femstodes because they look like elf paladins. Tall, lithe, but still imposing.
>>98727420>literal bigger batman>coolernah
fat man says the 700 dollar codex is a scam
>>98727438that's just for the whales to fund the poors model hobbyyou need some guys to buy the stupid expensive stuff to keep them in business
>>98727430based muscle woman enjoyer
>>98727392>filenameFucken KEK, 11/10 pic
>>98727438It's literally the prestige limited edition item for whales. No normal person is supposed to look at it and think it's a good deal.
>>98727420Knights are just better custodes
The Lion’s new T10 W16 4+++ vs mortals datasheet is the most 40k thing GW has printed this edition. Dark Angels mains were right the whole time and everyone else is just coping
>>98727420>I like when people are upset/negative emotionWhat causes this? Brain damage?
>>98727450GSC are just worse knights
>>98727420You have really shit taste They're the stormcast of 40k
>>98727451It's very funny that the part people seem most mad about is the fnp he already has in the current edition. He was unusable above 300 points with pretty much the same rules, just a bit thicker statline.
>>98727455Dudes will say shit like this then chill on 4chan lol>>98727446Cool model
>>98727461That's marines.
Buff knights
>>98727465I'd chill on 4chan more if there were less human shaped mosquitos.
>>98726413Heavy Bolters are also completely useless unless your fighting auxilia where they're the best gun you could possibly take. Shits funny.
>>98727451>>98727464H-hey! S-stop talking about primarchs just because they have models and rules for the Warhammer 40k tabletop wargame!>>98727469GW plz no
>>98727450true
I want to paint but I'm just so tired all the time this time of year
>>98727156Finished the bases
>>98727438Charging very close to the price of an actual titan for a book is absolutely a scam, yeah.
>>98727466No he's rightBecause stormcast are just a shitty attempt at cloning marine's success without understanding why people liked marinesthey're the donut steel fanfiction oc that is totally bigger and stronger and more important than the established cast that have been working in the background for millenia to make the plot happen and are totally cooler than Kyle's faggot Ultramarines list fuck you Kyle mine are cooler
>>98726632Permanent means permanent
>>98727506Im kyle and im ngl this hurts but I know when I’m beat>>98727499Very nice anon
>>98727497Yeah I noticed this too as soon as the weather cooled what's up with thatCunt temperature change making me tired
>>98727506>they're the donut steel fanfiction oc that is totally bigger and stronger and more important than the established cast that have been working in the background for millenia to make the plot happen and are totally cooler than Kyle's faggot Ultramarines list fuck you Kyle mine are coolerthat's marines, the only difference is that you don't have rose tinted glasses for them
so let me get this straightPrimaris, Grey Knights and Custodes are all gay because it's just bigger batman?
>>98726969>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98727540Retard
>>98727518Decalfag is gay anon
>>98727540Marines are causing seethe at unprecedented rates and for this, they are truly based
Marine wank is the worst part of 40k.
>>98727540I don't think they were so overtly protagonist coded, there's tons of marines that are really rough around the edges, job big time, etc.
>>98727057Imagine getting 40ks version of Tony hawk locked up in a room with her cat and yverine has to watch.
>>98727519Thanks anon, I appreciate it
>>98727549Grey Knights are okay because they're not just "space marines but better", they are anti-daemon specialists created for that purpose and are not ideal for fighting most other threats. They've also been in the game since nearly the beginning, which is KIND of true for Custodes but not really because modern Custodes have changed so much from the original incarnation whereas Grey Knights have only changed a little bit.
>>98727555yes I hate marines and love TauLet me tell you how hecking rad communism is my fellow warhammer fans
>>98727549Yes, glad you understand
>>98727555Oi mate! Youz is a roight bluh’ee wanka!>>98727553This>>98727531Kek
>>98727506I absolutely hate Marinefags but I hate custodes slightly less because they make other marinefags seethe like absolutely nothing else. Marinelets have no rebuttal but saying the exact same shit that non-marine players already say about space marines.There are based marinefags but they're pretty rare because being a based marine fag requires approaching the setting with the bare minimum good humour that most other armies ask of their players.Generally marinefags are too lost in their masturbatory power fantasy to do this which is why marinefags memes are just the same tired jokes recycled and regurgitated from when they joined the hobby with Dawn of War and/or space marine.Taufags are spiritual marinefags btw.
>>98727558No there isn't, stormcast on the other hand are constantly taking Ls, that's there whole thing now, they're dying so much they're barely functional and now daddy belakor hacked their hearthstone. Marines ALWAYS win in the end, and if they don't it was some small battle no one knows about or remembers until the go back and win the next time.
>>98727552Which is why he's lusting after troonarchs, yes
>>98727561they were space marines but better due to all psykers and emperor's geneseed and superior armory (despite being super secret being able to field a reliably full company of terminators is a reachable feat for 1% of chapters) till bananas usurped their position from lorewank and better stats
>>98727574Cope>>98727561Ye grey knights are aight
>>98727588Oop got another one
>>98727300
>>98727593>*looks three hundred times better than any primaris miniature ever made in your path*
>>98727578Wasn't always like that, Ultras got their shit rocked in the battle for Macragge, The blood angels lost their entire 1st company to a space hulk. Hell even the Raven Guard chapter master was outmaneuvered and killed by a blueberry.Primaris ruined everything, Marines stopped being flawed men bailing water out of a sinking ship and started being uncomplicated heroes.
>>98727592Copex2>>98727593Based beakie
>>98727540>and are totally cooler than Kyle's faggot Ultramarines list fuck you Kyle mine are coolerhonestly this>nooo why does -3 AP mean I don't get an armor save wwwwaaaahhhh I should ALWAY get my armor save put a 4++ or better on absolutely everything>uummmm boltguns are cool but that's what marines use my army should never lose to them make everything T6 W3 SV2+ or better>what do you mean I can only field like 10 guys with that stat line you can't just objective mog me make everything super point efficient so my army looks like an army
>3s onlyfuck now i gotta assemble my battleforce spares, aquillon and allarus are likely the units coming in 2s right? Also I'm not sure what weapon set on telemons - mixed, dual gauntlets, or Accelerator? The Desolator technically can edge it out and forces invuls on mirror/terminator-tiers but RF3 is gonna be hard to beat and you still will need to come closer due to hidden unless playing vs an idiot
>all the salty marinetoddlers and cuckstodes itt rn
