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Queen of Green Edition

Previous: >>98752275

>News
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026

>Current Banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Bracket Information
https://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png

>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Card Search
https://scryfall.com

>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com

>Gay Bolas
https://files.catbox.moe/823tpq.png

>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Proxy Guide
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Now that the dust has settled and Reality Failure flopped, how ready are you for Trek to save this year of Magic?
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>tifa shitposter is gay bolas
What a surprise
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>gay bolas anon MUST have his shitty OP right after bump limit
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>>98756731
Been saying this for weeks. Weeks I tell you!
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>>98756731
Was Bolas's evil plan to flood the multiverse with better IPs, thus erasing his enemies from memory? He already got Jace to transition in a stunning and brave move.
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>10+ years ago as a kid I only collected Pokemon
>at the store I had two spare quarters, so I put them in a MTG singles Vending Machine thingy
>out pops SPOILER, oh cool I guess, I dunno
>save it
>fast forward to college, start playing a lot of magic, love it
>fast forward to adulthood, my friends and I love commander
>want to build SPOILER because it's my first card ever, make a bracket 2 because that's all we play
>friends get annoyed playing against it because it's too strong
>move it to bracket 3
>friends get annoyed playing against it because it's too strong
>move it to bracket 4
>friends get annoyed playing it because it's too strong
>get sad and stop playing it
>start playing arena, discover brawl
>getting my ass beat with my Eshki deck by all these people playing Vivi and Golos and Ugin
>remember SPOILER
>build it
>re-introduce an entire generation of zoomies on what it means to get Narset'd with six chained extra turns and zero wincons
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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Reposting my question from dead thread

Why is Maelstrom Wanderer a legendary if it seems like a regular monster, is it a singular creation of the Maelstrom that just has no proper name?
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>>98756699
I hope whoever came up with the idea to have an entire set mechanic dedicated to making Jace tokens gets brutally raped until he has to use a colostomy bag for the rest of his life.
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>>98756802
it can be as simple as wotc forgetting to put 'The' in the name
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>>98756778
wew
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>>98756788
Duel Commander is objectively superior to 1v1v1v1
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>>98756802
>salvation wiki basically just says the maelstrom spit it out at some point and he's still running around now that it's gone
I guess he's just a big singular dude everyone sees over by where the maelstrom used to be.
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My Reality Fracture precon hasn't arrived in the mail, so it feels like I haven't even experienced the set yet. I played a bit on Arena, but Arena and Commander are practically two different games.

I am looking forward to Star Trek, yes. I bought the Klingon deck, and when I play it at the LGS with randoms I am going to do a gay-ass Klingon voice/impersonation as I play it.
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>>98756701
>>98756708
>>98756741
I will unapologetically carry this over
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What are some actually interesting 5c commanders?
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Trying to build a budget-ish ur-dragon but not sure about how to do the lands.
So far my plan is
>6 omni lands
>1 omni fetchland
>10 basic lands
>10 pain lands
What else should i get?
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>>98756888
>5c
disgusting
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>>98756888
Ashling
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>>98756892
may I violate it? I want to tear apart a WUBRG Commander so bad it's unreal

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/marchesamadnessmonarchy/
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>>98756888
Most are some flavor of tribal slop but I like Urtet because artifacts are cool and fun. I put Solarion in there and he has never won me a game!
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>>98756863
well done noticing that, anon.
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>>98756888
I guess Marina if you care about rooms
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>>98756888
I play Kenrith Goodstuff because this was Sheldon's vision for the format.
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Twenty (20) starting life is objectively superior to thirty (30)
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>>98756895
But enough about your mom
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>>98756930
my mom is mono red
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>oh that's a cool idea for a deck
>general already exists and has been fine tuned by 1000 sweaty autists
>give up
damn you wotc for printing so many generals
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>>98756888
You are giving up on being interesting by choosing a 5c general
you can only have an interesting 5c deck in the 99
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>>98756964
Is there no commander for WUBRG matters?
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>>98756922
ty >.<
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>>98756997
There's a well made database for all mtg cards, it's called Scryfall.
I recommend using the advanced search feature for questions like this.
https://scryfall.com/advanced
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>>98756997
5c niv is sort of a WUBRG matters general
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>>98756997
uhh jegantha maybe
ramos I guess?
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>>98756997
Jenson Carthalion is the best I can do.
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>want to play this guy
>nobody will believe me its not eldrazi.dec
feels bad man
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>>98756955
Just find an alternative commander for the mechanic you had in mind, that's part of the fun anyway. Some of my more successful decks have been mechanic + commander who only tangentially supports it.
>Dalakos Living Weapons
>Shiko & Narset Curses
>Brenard Saga Creatures
>Ukkima Stickers

Sit down with the mechanic you have in mind and go through legendaries in associated colors on Scryfall. People will mire on your deckbuilding more at game stores too.

>>98757142
I'd be more wary that you're playing deterministic game-ending combo.dek.
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>>98757171
>>Shiko & Narset Curses
I was 15% through brewing that one to be a hipster and now that I have seen someone else who made it I must take the decklist out back and shoot it
*sniff* I didn't want to print out a bunch of copy tokens anyway...
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>>98756997
What everyone else said.
Jegantha, Ramos, Jenson, guideline station, and gold Karn are 5c-matters and have different ways of helping/paying off. 5c Jared also, but he's really just not a good payoff.
The Nivs are all "5c 2c-matters" and so only sorta count.
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>>98757142
its mono white, nobody is going to care
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Kneel.
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>so much hype for the October Superdrop Secret Lairs
>Labyrinth gets three mid lairs because ???
>Kpop Demon Hunters gets one lair with 7 cards, no legendary creature or any creatures,
>artist series with 4 cards, but one is cabal stronghold
>gigachad artifact lands per the usual
>treefolk lair with no Heartwood Storyteller
>marvel slop

i fucking hate the consistency of secret lairs
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>>98757235
>>so much hype for the October Superdrop Secret Lairs
where?
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>>98757181
Sorry anon. To be fair most decks have been done before, but the majority of people will not have ever encountered it. I'm sure your version would end up vastly different than mine anyway. That's part of the beauty of going by mild association vs. a commander built for the mechanic explicitly.

>>98757235
Labyrinth is based, K-Slop Demon Hunters is not. Simple as.
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>>98757235
I just want to play magic again without having so much outside bullshit shoved in
I take back everything I said about FIRE and the Jacetice league
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>>98757249

hot take: magic would be in way worse position if they didn't do Universes Beyond.
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>>98757259
>Position
in the market? IDK. As a game? I couldn't disagree more. We would have all the same cards, just with art that makes sense for the game and fewer dingleberries from other fandoms coming in and making pug games slow as shit.
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>>98757259
That's a mild take actually
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>>98757142
People should be more worried about wether or not you are playing the instant win combo with Dack
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>>98757259
Your objectively right anon.
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>>98757272
mildly retarded maybe
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>>98757271
>just with art that makes sense for the game
Lol
You are exactly why UB needs to exist
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>>98756888
The commander isn't super important and the deck is more like copies and tribals of whatever you happen to pull but I like the modified 30 ways to win deck using him and Clara for black.
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>>98757248
Shame the cards suck ass. I'd never buy a secret lair, but what the hell? Why is this a bulk rare from Dominaria? At least make it a choice mechanic.
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>>98757280
But enough about you
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>>98757229
>You are generous as you are divine, O Dragon of Dragons. Such an offer only a madman would refuse. But the, uh, the idea of kneeling, it's..
>You see, slaughtering all those Mana Dirks of yours has, uh..
>well it's left a nasty cramp in my leg, so kneeling will be hard for me
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how do you have fun talking about this every single day, is what I don't understand
the UB shitfest I mean, I know some of you guys are the same people doing this multiple times a week because I see so many of the same images and sentiments over and over again
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>>98757316
no friends
no cards
no game
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>>98757316
i'm not the one who brought up UB hate as a reply to SL
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>>98757316
Same with the bracket bickering. I dont get it
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Not gonna lie. When they announced Kpop Demon Hunter last year I expected exclusive cards like Sonic or PlayStation.
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>>98757328
some retards are just contrarian with no common sense whatsoever
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Is there a room for Underworld Breach combo lines in Bracket 3?
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>>98757391
depends on if you can tutor it or not (I think)
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>>98757259
>mtg is better with less mtg in it
Maybe you just don't like the game
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>>98757391
No. It plays so easily into typical izzet storm lines that it happens accidentally immediately. Every time I see breach land in B3 it wins that turn, because it produces its own protection (you have counterspells in yard)
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>>98757283
UB isn't immune to this
I don't even need to include an imagine cause you know it
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>>98757418
UB is unironically better Magic than most UW sets though. It forces top-down design rather than letting the designers rely on the crutch of designing the whole world around the color pie which is why worlds keep feeling flat.
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>>98757391
If you're in the number of game changers and aren't turbo winning with it before whatever the arbitrary turn number is, yes.
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>>98757316
>I know some of you guys are the same people doing this multiple times a week
You mean assume
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>>98757434
>forces top down design in a game with a strong history of top down design
Swing and a miss, Jr.
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>>98756778
Arena/mtgo is also where I go to do shameful and abusive things to strangers
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>>98757460
>Strong history of top down design
Yeah that's why Jace felt like such a nuanced character, right?
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>>98757391
I guess but I'm gonna roll my eyes. Surely you can find a more interesting way to win?
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>>98757469
>Don't worry guys, my vivi deck is only a bracket 3!
>3 turns later he's breaching
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>>98757259
Eh, depends. The early commander products flew off the shelves and Final Fantasy did amazing, then several UB sets are still sitting on store shelves.

TMNT and Spider Man were horrible failures (to my knowledge), I don’t really know how Marvel did but I haven’t heard anyone personally loving it.

The real lesson here is the same one every other company is learning: weebs are retarded and will fling boat loads of cash at anything that looks faintly like anime.
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>>98757469
I have it on my Jaya Ballard deck so I can double up on my burn spells, surely that's an alright use case?
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>>98757468
yes
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>>98757171
>>98757248
For me it's prepared. Looking for a commander who plays well with it tho
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>>98757468
You really thought you were cooking with this one didn't you? What's even the point of having a conversation with someone who can't even understand the concept being discussed?
Overexposure was the only problem with Jace.
The lesson that needed to be learned is that when MTG chases a trend, it sucks and when they just do their own thing it tends to be pretty good. They tried to turn the walkers into some marvel bullshit and people got tired of it, that's not really a problem with top down vs bottom up philosophy.
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>>98757506
So... you're saying WotC made a bad top-down character design?
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>>98757501
https://scryfall.com/search?q=type%3Alegendary+o%3A%22other+than+your+hand%22&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

In searching this you kinda made me want to build a prepare deck of my own. I already have an Emeritus of Woe from a lucky promo pack.
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>>98757514
It's amazing how much edhg discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.
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This guy is, like, everything I want in a commander. He's a slow durdly value heap who doesn't tell you how to build him.

That being said I have no idea how I WOULD build him.
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>>98757546
I built him a fungus tribal and proliferating the fuck out of spore tokens.
I was banned from my local pod because my turns took too long.
So, probably don't do that either, narrowed it down a bit.
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>>98757546
>simic with black
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>>98757523
>When they do their own thing it tends to be pretty good
>"Their own thing" is the gatewatch
>No that doesn't count
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>>98757684
You proved anon's last two sentences in >>98757506 correct.
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>>98757447
I suppose it's possible that there are multiple people who sign their posts with the same annoying avatarfaggish catchphrases so as to collectively pretend to be a single person, but my prior against that being true is so strong that I default to the word "know" in this case rather than acknowledging the cosmic uncertainty inherent in all things with a word like "assume"
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>>98757704
No, you're just trying to disqualify every obvious counterexample with no true scotsman. Every time Magic made a shitty worldbuilding decision it doesn't count because it's trendchasing, but when they trendchase urban fantasy with Ravnica it counts because it worked.
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>>98757738
I'll tell you this
I haven't been posting for over a month so if other people are bitching its gotta be multiple people
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>>98757546
My first instict would be to build around the imprint artifacts like mimic vat
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>>98757684
Yet again, not even close to what I said.
You are just trying to gotcha me again.
I'll just say my point once again, MTG has had a history of well made top down sets (Kamigawa, Invasion Cycle etc) and does not need to dilute their world building with outside IPs for that purpose.
>>98757743
>Every time Magic made a shitty worldbuilding decision it doesn't count because it's trendchasing
>every time
dawg we were talking about ONE specific example and indeed it took something that was relatively cool and made it shit because of a trend.
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>>98757743
Foremost, not my post. Unlike you I can just read it.

Second, no a No True Scotsman, anon's point was that trendchasing and forced icons get hated. I'd argue there's some level of contradiction there, but it's not wrong, and all you did was validate his trendchasing example.

Third, nobody gave any other examples of Magic's "bad" worldbuilding, so put away the strawman since it just makes you look schizo.

Fourth, Ravnica isn't urban fantasy. It's a city planet, not a contemporary modern setting. Having a trope in itself isn't trendchasing either since almost anything is a trope. Your point would have stuck if you said Thunder Junction or something, but there's a counterargument that the Omenpaths and hat sets are just part of trend of how modern shows treat multiverse stories.

Fifth, you're a gay faggot and have AIDs.
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>>98757546
Just the other day he was mentioned as a commander that can ult Dreadhorde Lili on t6 so there's that lol.
sultai elves and superfriends? ramp into 4-6mv walkers, and then sac the tapped elves to proliferate.
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>>98757235
>>Kpop Demon Hunters gets one lair with 7 cards, no legendary creature or any creatures,
I don't give a shit about this movie but even I have to admit that's surprisingly barebones.
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>Tapped out finally adds the option to make original printings the default
fuck yes.
anyway this deck litterally came to me in a dream
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tenebs-archaeological-society/
I know something is missing I just cant put my finger on what, usually there's some massive glaring problem when I deck build in my sleep.
and its only teneb because I like this cycle
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>retarded niggers paying $80 for Sphinx ambassador
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>>98757910
People just have too much pride to play a heavily played Italian copy that some dog chewed on even though it does the same thing as a near mint english copy.
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>>98757993
Same, but a sol ring that is a gaped dragon asshole leaking bolas cum is the same as a real sol ring
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>>98758003
What the hell is wrong with you?
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>>98757910
why is this card suddenly so expensive, I picked one up for like a few bucks when the mono blue sphinx tribal general was first printed
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>>98757519
>Anhelo
I've been meaning to build him for years now. Especially after playing new Silverquill and really enjoying casualty with him. You got any ideas for him yet?
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Oh thats cool, night's whisper uses the same reference art as Dax Rigg's latest album
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>>98758011
Nothing, it's a functional sol ring
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>>98757832
>>98757841
>MtG has had a history of well made top down sets
>Citation: Magic player (the only demographic that tolerated these flat settings)
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>>98758084
>>98757418
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>>98758117
>Magic realizes it can improve the game with UB
>Does so
>Sells like crazy
>"Nooo this isn't my glup shitto fest with memorable characters like Dack Fayden, greatest thief in the multiverse! (died offscreen)"
UB is Magic now. You are the one that does not like the game.
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>>98758084
>(the only demographic that tolerated these flat settings)
hey, lets be fair here. Final Fantasy fans have put up with far worse for far longer
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>>98758137
>>Does so
citation needed you are literally just putting in other IP's glup into mtg.
I know you like spongebob, but wotc printing a spongebob card does not make him more mtg than jace
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>>98756888
love garth
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>>98756997
Domain and converge(slash sunburst, but it only does one thing) are also ways you can do "five color matters"
Jegantha and jenson can help with converge, but the green overlord, dryad of the elysia groven, the leyline, and prismatic omen are your best activators for domain. Omo is only u/g, but activates domain if she's on board, and the land now has all basic types too for mana.
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Name one time Magic made a bad original story, and don't say the ending to Weatherlight, or Alara, or Return to Ravnica, or Battle for Zendikar, or Tarkir, or Oath of the Gatewatch, or Midnight Hunt, or Crimson Vow, or New Capenna, or Aetherdrift, or War of the Spark, or March of the Machines, or Ikoria, or Zendikar Rising, or Murder at Karlov Manner, or Coldsnap.
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>>98758170
Edge of Eternities!
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>>98758154
Spongebob is more recognizable than Jace. Ronald McDonald has more established IP power than all 30 years of Magic's worldbuilding put together.
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>>98758170
you just want mtg cards that refer to stuff you recognize because you can't appreciate anything you don't already recognize.
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>>98758251
You mean like how Magic players have a meltdown every time another, more well-written IP enters their "diverse" world of "interesting" characters?
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>>98758210
What are you even arguing here? Are you saying whichever IP moves the most product should be on magic cards?
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>>98758271
Yes, now kneel, little pig. You'll keep slopping this up anyway, as you have for 30 years.
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>>98758282
No thank you, I have been proxying since TWD.
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>>98758170
Except weatherlight, alara, coldsnap, and tarkir was great you're just proving modern Wotc can't write worth shit and have to lean on shit they didn't make
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>>98758170
You anons have yet to ascend to the highest level of MtG lore cope.

It’s always been boiled dogshit and we play for the mechanics - and occasionally the art.

I have yet to read a good MtG story.
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>>98758261
>you don't like spongebob in mtg because you don't recognize him!
>if you did, you would love it!
ha, ok that's enough for today.
Let's talk about our most recent games instead, who did you play last?
I played Daxos of Meletis in an attempt at lantern control
it kinda worked. Won off of an opponent's misplay though so its hard to say
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>>98758309
we play for the art and occasionally the mechanics
the art is what tells the story of the game, not some shitty blogpost and not the books that used to come in fatpacks.
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>>98758316
>you don't like jace because you don't keep up with the lore!
>if you did, you would love him!
goes both ways bub
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>>98758271
>Are you saying whichever IP moves the most product should be on magic cards?
sure, why not?
i now await your in-depth treatise on why mtg should NOT be the fortnite of tcgs
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>>98758327
what you are missing is that people can recognize something and not clap like a retard just because its something they have seen before.
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>>98756778
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>>98758352
NTA but isn't this the case with UB as well?
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>>98756997
Only the strong mana bases survive.
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>>98758352
>not clap like a retard
I 100% guarantee you that everyone who liked mystery booster 3 are UWfags that clapped like retards because it's full of memberberries
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> kpop demon hunters SL
> not a single commander when Trostani Huntrix was so obvious

Is it over?
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>>98758335
>Worc should ape the floundering game company that had to layoff a thousand employees this year
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>>98758384
All I know about this show is the song that was spammed everywhere for like a year and the purple haired one is a certified throat goat
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>>98757546
He's one of my secret commanders in my Glarb infect deck. Populate those infect counters!
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>>98758390
IP strength has nothing to do with an employee's job security
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>>98757546
My friend did a deck with sagas for silly value. He has Biovisionary as the wincon but the deck is powerful enough that he is much more likely to win just ignoring those lines completely.
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interesting how a predominantly Asian IPS don't get mechanically unique cards.
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>>98758390
Big mistake, you should have never replied to him.
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>>98758409
That's right you better run
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>>98758409
>tfw im the reason we can't have good discussions in this thread anymore
I'll try better tomorrow not to reply to bait.
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>>98758413
I think I will. Frivolous UB discussions are getting old.
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>>98758384
We can only hope.
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>>98758363
Sure, but you would expect mtg characters in MTG, wouldn't you?
Ultimately all arguments against UB are arguments against cultural homogenization and while UW is not immune to this concept, you still can't do worse than straight up porting outside IP straight into your game.
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>>98758445
>Sure, but you would expect mtg characters in MTG, wouldn't you?
no
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Does anyone else love going to the commander parties for each set?
Honestly they could get me to show up to basically any event if they just tempted me with promos, no matter how shitty.
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>>98758453
Well, there's your problem. glad to be of service.
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>>98758463
most of my commanders are UB actually
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>>98758469
great, share a decklist?
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>>98758445
>Sure, but you would expect X characters in Y homeland, wouldn't you?
You dont actually believe what you are saying, you dont actually believe in nativism
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>>98758484
don't I?
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>>98758469
kinda gay desu
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>>98758485
Something something double standard something something no standards at all
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>Maybe i should build a second deck
>don't want to play and of them, just Urgoros
>Decide to just keep playing Urgoros
Abd the cycle continued
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>>98758499
list?
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>>98758480
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>>98758500
Never made one, its just loads of removal, discard, some eqipment and such
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>>98758499
That's a pretty bad uncommon desu
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>>98758518
You should try to make a list or take a picture, I'd be interested to see what cha got.
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>>98756699
QUEEN OF GREEN. I KNEEL
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>>98758525
all ruining a perfectly casual meta will cost you is 10 dollars
what a steal of a deal!
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>>98758557
Try a dollar 1.15
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>>98758584
this is not really the same kind of card, kinda cute that you thought that it was though
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Why dont people run this guy

All you need is a trample board buffer and youre set
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>>98758602
If you say so. It'll ruin a causal meta harder.
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>>98758300
What kind of cope is this? No they weren't.
>Weatherlight
>We have Star Trek at home, ends with biggest asspull of all time
>Alara
>Ends with interesting setting being turned into sludge
>Coldsnap
>Biggest horseshit setup of all-time that didn't even make sense
>Tarkir
>Tarkir story
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>>98758628
because multani 2.0 is just better in the only kinds of decks that want big do-nothing french vanilla dumb beaters (those that want big commander damage as a backup plan)
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>>98758531
Its mostly just stuff i picked up over the years, i did include some cards i don't have yer but will be adding
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If we have to get UB, can we get Elder Scrolls instead of Fallout at least?
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>>98758775
No. Bethesda still cares about TES
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>>98758796
probably for the better
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>>98757259
Depends on what you mean by worse. Most people see artistic degradation in favor of infinitely growing money for the jew as "better"
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That new zombie deck is kinda tempting me desu lads, i kinda want a beeak from higher end ganes
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>>98758812
>UB caused all the artistic degradation!!
bwahahaha
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>>98758384
A friend took me to see K-Pop Demon Hunters when it was in the cinema, it wasn't too terrible actually, but very generic story and k-pop music. It did ignite in me a serious attraction for girls with big, intricate, patterned tattoos.
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>>98758835
If you don't get it you don't get it. Artistic degradation encompasses more than just Radha getting uglier. It means mudding your vision, your universe, with those of others. Letting others creep into it, even if yours has problems in itself. If you can't understand why the tranny trinket mage doesn't justify Spongebob in mtg you can't possibly get it. But be happy, you're in the majority who wants to sacrifice everything to the jew of infinite shareholder growth
I know who you are so I won't engage further
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>>98758886
>being this adamant to protect the cultural purity of fictional characters he admits suck but hey you still gotta defend it cuz you're not a real fan otherwise!
You and your kind are all the same, you don't actually believe anything you're saying and are just malding that asian ip are better than mtg or god of laundry or whatever passes for new western ip nowadays
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>>98758835
New cards bad, old cards good. Only play old beautiful cards. Make beautiful decks first, good decks secondary.
>REJECT MODERNITY
>EMBRACE TRADITION
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How are (you) supposed to deal with Lumra without land exile?
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>>98758942
stop durdling and combo off
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>>98758796
>>98758809
implying bethesda is in charge anymore
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>>98758651
Do you even like mtg? How did you get here? I really hope you're at least getting paid to post this garbage
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>>98758954
i like mtg for its mechanics first and foremost, and only the barest facade of it being passable to normies keeps me going and tolerating the faggoty UW dreck
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>>98758952
I have now also posted AI of shit, your argument is invalid.
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"Loot but fucked up and evil" is a really funny card to me so I want to build a Bracket 2 (since I don't think he's good enough to be played above that) deck around him.
Can anyone think off the top of their head cards that are creature hate/stax pieces for creatures above a certain level of power?
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>>98758970
You're getting too obvious now
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>>98758991
unironically playing with negative power is a really interesting mechanic. i fucking hate how much they push that cutesy cashgrab though, so I will refrain.
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>>98759007
But anon, now he's mono black and EVIL and even the all-powerful Jace is afraid of him
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>>98759005
who said i left the thread?
just funny to me how you lot all don the red hat without fail the moment the jacetice league is attacked
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Are Vishgraz or Ixhel still good? The typical Abzan graveyard/toughness stuff looked boring to me
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>>98756888
I like Najeela simply because she's a 5-colour combination for warrior tribal
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>98759019
You don't even get a (you) for that shitty bait
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>>98759055
i accept your concession
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>>98758991
same energy
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>>98759033
Vishgraz is genuinely a very good blink-go-wide or aristocrats commander.
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You can't get mad about UB when the only good recent precons have been UB ones. Seriously if you wanted to get someone into the game the only "good" precons worth using are all UB, so unless you actually do something about that nothing will change
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>>98759190
I don't have a stake in UB being shit or not, but this is a terrible metric.
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>>98759190
violence is illegal
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>>98759231
UW is violence to good storytelling correct
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>>98759190
They juice the ub precons just so they'd actually sell otherwise you get shit like the terra deck just rotting on shelves
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>>98759248
I mean "unless you actually do something" is a call for violence and illegal activity.
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>>98758628
Used to be cool probably still good
https://youtu.be/ddAs31dTntY
Would need lots of updating
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>>98758640
Wow you can break something fragile!
You are almost as smart as my toddler!
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>>98759230
Not really, when UB is one of the only things worth buying now it's no wonder people keep buying them. The only way to fix that is making UW just as appealing from a value and gameplay standpoint.

>>98759255
That's fair, but that's also supporting my point in that people need to make their views on that known so Wizards makes UW precons and new sets just as worth playing and paying for versus grabbing a hobbit set or some shit.
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>>98759269
>Not really, when UB is one of the only things worth buying now
Both of the EoE precons were vastly stronger than any of the FF precons,

Marvel percons were an absolute joke.
You do not know what you are talking about.
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>>98759269
Universes within sets sell out everywhere all the time you really can't get louder than that
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Personally I buy what looks neat
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>>98759258
>unless you actually do something
you mean like *gasp* telling wotc to stop hiding their women's midriffs? haha
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>>98759277
>EoE were vastly stronger
Alright I got the information I needed so I'm done pretending and continuing this point. Thanks for doing the work for me, anon :)
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What do you even do with this guy?
>Eldrazi
Storing up 50+ Mana is more for X spells than casting 10 drops.
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>>98759294
what about a 15 drop? tick tock
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What do we think of this? I got two of them in a prerelease. Seems good in certain situations and decks that don't have board wipes, but it is expensive. The card draw early is nice, as could be the discard.
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>>98759294
More of a "in the 99" kinda guy he's getting insta slammed into my mono white eldrazi deck
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>>98759342
It's just Nevinyrral's Disk but now you have to hold up a bunch of mana to hold the board hostage
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>>98759380
Politically I think it can be interesting. When I got to play it in the prerelease it was an instant target for removal, and if it stayed around it prevented them from playing anything meaningful so I just pinged them to death with my creatures. I think it had potential to be pretty powerful in certain EDH decks.
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>>98759380
print more battles so I can run nevinyrral
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>>98759360
That is 100% of all colorless legendaries
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>>98759342
>we
The need zoomers have for consensus is disgusting
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>>98759342
Since we're posting questionable artifacts, I'll post my recent favorite
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>>98757434
Most dumb shit I've read today.
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>>98758137
But it hasnt improved the game, only sales. And only LOTR and FF.
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>>98759562
But you have read of me
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>>98758210
Yeah lets put Mickey and Pikachu in mtg.
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>>98759342
Extremely powerful as it doubles as a hand-smoother in the early game too.
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>>98759566
Magic had 30 years to improve itself and failed. It's time for UBchads to save your dying game.
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>>98759572
>Pikachu
This but unironically cause I want more videos of people fist fighting over cards and that shit only happens with Pokefags.
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>>98759592
Who's got the heavy spiderman bags and how much do they pay you?
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>>98759533
goes great in Toph the First Metalbender
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>>98759607
Who got the racecar set so terrible that not even bagholders could be tricked into buying it?
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>>98759608
Does it? Why? I would have guessed you would want artifacts without tap abilities
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>>98759592
Magic was already a good game, UB hasnt changed anything gameplaywise. It only fills the pool of cards with generic unplayable legendary shit.
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>>98759621
I think if you make an Akira bike reference you should be hit in the most sensitive spot on your body, be it your balls if you got em or whatever the woman equivalent is. That shit needs to end YESTERDAY.
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>>98759621
Nobody
By your own definition
lol dipshit
And nobody is shilling for it either
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>>98759626
It's only good because you can keep using it's effect as long as no one destroys it and you keep earthbending it
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>>98759628
Oh and hybrid mana cards because circles don't fit in square holes so you end up with uneven color distribution
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I like the old UB DnD precons before Baldur's Gate 3 ruined that shit. The Red/Black one is still pretty fun.
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>>98759636
I always forget it's dies or exiled
What an ability
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>>98759566
WOTC very easily could have had their cake and eaten it too if they just did LOTR or FF but that would have taken restraint and some modicum of goodwill both of which they lack
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>>98759292
>I was merely pretending to be a retard
Okay kid.
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>>98759645
>UB DnD
The D&D sets aren't UB. D&D has an official book for Ravnica. It's safe to say the two settings are merged at this point. I would say I want a Dark Sun mtg set but since they're fucking neutering Dark Sun they can fucking fuck off with pleasure.
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Taking this to a new pod I was invited to.
Is this build ready? What am I missing?
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>>98759694
https://moxfield.com/decks/yXO-CTDjd0CcMzSAvol_UA

Forgot link
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>>98759694
>mfw no face
Just bring your booty hole and I'm sure all the trannies will love you good anon.
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>>98759701
Told you yesterday you need some ramp and a non-shuffing wheel to setup approach. why post again if you aren't going to listen to advice?
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>>98759469
I blame live streamers for that
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>>98759713
>naw dude I'll totally cast approach on turn 12 and manually draw 7 cards and win by turn 18
lol
Honestly dig through time is probably better than the wheel
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>was playing gay kings
>finally won a game
>the dude next to me screams
>THAT'S THE POWER OF PRIDE
Fucking hell man I hate playing in random lgs some times
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Bots all went offline, huh?
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>>98756699
>furfag spammer is the one posting "queen of green" and shilling UB
What a surprise! Fake thread, shan't use.
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>>98759832
nah that's actually funny
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>>98759873
Chuds are never funny, as a rule.
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>quirky new colorless/artifact commander
>look inside
>$10000 worth of staples
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>>98759845
Shills clocked out
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>>98759845
no I'm still here but I still need to take an image of my new deck with Whiplash
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Which card does the "art" suit better? I'm too torn myself.
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>>98759435
Depends if you're mister money bags. Traxos can be a pretty mean commander
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>>98760047
gravecrawler
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>>98760047
Cemetery, get to see it longer as an enchantment.
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>>98760047
make it Grave Pact instead
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>>98760084
I already have a gravepact.
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>>98760088
swap the art of that for tainted pact
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>>98760100
I could
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I don't pay attention to the lore why is Jace suddenly heckin evil and problematic
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>>98760116
He's not evil.
He's just insane.
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>>98760116
he pulled Urza
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>>98759845
Solved format, dead general. Simple as.
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>>98760116
Because he’s a straight white male.
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>>98759845
4chan is a significantly less popular site than a few years ago.
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>>98759360
But I wanna run him as commander. Are there really no colorless x spells? I can only think of like, 3. Everflowing chalice (technically), astral cornicopea, and I think Kozilek's command.
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38 days until Star Trek
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>>98760261
There's a bunch of artifacts that act as mana dumps im a big fan of this stupid thing and rings of brighthearth type cards
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>>98760261
There's plenty of colorless spells to dump mana into
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>>98760294
How do I best search for them on scryfall?
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>>98760286
As big of a trek fan as I am, I gotta say I'm not exactly looking forward to it.
The commander party will probably be fun though
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This nigga goes hard in mono white token decks.
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>>98760286
My most looked forward to set this year.
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>>98760294
I've never seen this card before lol
>>98760206
How did you solve having fun with binder fodder?
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>>98760307
Me too, can't wait for this game to die.
Maybe I can finally buy the proxies for my Canadian highlander deck after everyone else stops playing.
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>>98760361
>can't wait for this game to die.
I've been seeing this board say this for 10 years now.
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>>98760288
What are some other mana sink lands? I really don't know how I would search for them on scryfall.
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>>98760395
It's probably not what you're looking for, but Mystifying Maze is pretty expensive but can absolutely hose some decks from attacking you late game.
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>>98760318
It was in one of those stupid 100 dollar commander decks
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every set makes me stronger...
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>>98758923
Premodern and commander with your best bros on occasion is the only way to enjoy this game
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I've always had a soft spot for these clockwork critters



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