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So the new fat guy's shirt is a big hint the haslab is the Rattler, isn't it?
>>11018712SAW Viper looks cool. I like they recovered the original concept of the literal saw.I was worried about Grenadiers not having holsters, but they do, they look just like the guys from the Collector's Club.I was worried about Tommy too, but he looks great in-hand.Retro Stalker looks fine, but I was hoping for a new head.And here I am, waiting for the rest.
Did lenny said they reworked the helmet so it could fit on the Officer head? They look great.
HOLY SHIT VAC METAL
vac metal face, but no hood.
NO HOOD!
>>11018712Looks more like a EOD type guy. Idk, maybe its just a lull for classified. Gonna run errands, text me when raptor comes on lol.
>>11018731Keep crying
>>11018712It's just like the one from the 50th Anniversary, awesome.
The lack of dragonfly news is pissing me off. I bet the blades are a saggy mess and that's why there's no news.
>>11018760Yeah, I'm getting pretty annoyed by that too. We had tons of hiss updates, but nothing for the dragonfly. Anyway worst Joe June ever. Only thing that wasn't completely spoiled was the retro stalker. The line is really slowing down now I guess.
>>11018765Bruh chill, the line is doing fine. I’ll admit I was hoping for some more unknown reveals, but this is fine.
>>11018765Stfu this was great, the livestream convinced me about Storm Shadow and the Grenadiers, and I love the modern look on the S.A.W. Viper.
>>11018765It's Yo Joe June, not Yo Joe June 4th
>>11018765Fired they HISS tank people who did their updates >>11018712Why is it bad I'm not familiar with the original
Green seems a touch too bright, and they didn't update the head. I guess Duke and Scarlett were a fluke, the retro line is just gonna be quick repaints
CC looks great with the vac metal head, and he even got to retain some alt hands. Wonder how much the value of the tank version will lower now
Dog shit streamIron Grenadier is the only cool thing
Ngl, a little tired of 85% of the cobra army being black
As shitty as it is to reuse the CI body for the retro, I do like the look of it with the standard web gear. I hope the blue isn't too far off what we have now and it can just blend in with them
>>11018781They are just being nostalfags hating anything that doesn't remotely looks like their toys when they were kids.
>>11018788I think it will increase now, but only for the MOC ones.
>>11018781>Why is it bad I'm not familiar with the originalThe vest has a collar. That’s pretty much it, meaning 80s kids really will freak out over the slightest attempts at updates. Don’t give them too much attention or Hasbro will make the line even more nostalgia pandering than it already is>>11018791My headcanon is that Cobra mainly recruits from destabilized African countries
>>11018717>Since OP can’t do their job…Hey I have you warning in the last thread I wouldn't able to make the new thread until a little bit after the stream. Also if you're gonna complain about me not doing my job then you could have at least updated the OP with the new reveals
>>11018791Why would you be upset? It fits.A bunch of violent retards who want to destroy shit, gang up on people and fight all the time, all while getting to steal stuff and promises of free stuff from their employer.
>>11018804We see enough of that irl, I don't need it on my shelves
>>11018808This.
So no VAMPs?
Is Dial Tone wearing a choker?
>>11018798It kind of does, several material states that Cobra recruits from destabilized communities desperate to find a place where they belong. I'm thinking poor neighborhoods, extremist groups and /pol/
>>11018808Larry Hama always wanted to reflect the real world and real social issues on G.I. Joe, that's why most bad guys are lawyers, desk military and rich dudes, also, war kills. That's why the cartoon was complete moral bankrupcy.
>>11018829So are you saying Larry thinks blacks are violent terrorists?
>>11018832Maybe that's why CC doesn't wear the hood anymore, he knows it would trigger the troops
>>11018832No, but he thinks rich, charismatic people draw lost kids to do their bidding.He kind of touches on black communities on Stalker's og card file.
>>11018800Don't mind the brat, you're always doing the Lord's work dude, thanks.
IGs are definitely growing on me, though I still just feel like this is more of an officer look rather than the standard trooper. And I cannot understand why they used the Stalker sweater sleeves instead of the CG sleeves for a more opulent look.
>>11018818probably a throat microphone
>>11018833>Has Cobra Gone Woke?! Cobra Commanders hoodie EXPLAINED
>>11018848I went from loving them to being hesitant, but now I love them again, they really look inspired from the Collector's Club ones from '12. Already ordered two.I like them as Destro's troopers and I think the sleeves go for a blend between opulent and tactical, but you can bet they'll get the Retro treatment eventually.
>>11018864Now all we need are the Oktober Guard.
>>11018875YES! I'd kill for a 6 inch Guard, I don't know how far the Joes team is allowed to go with real world references nowadays, but it'd be amazing.
>>11018848Oh, they just went full nazi
>>11018209>>11018212Alpine is a quick buy and I'll probably get two of the IGs, just to flank Destro. If they ever come out with more original looking retro version I'll just get one of them to use as their commander or something. Overall the IGs look great, but I'm kinda concerned about no visable weapon stowage anywhere in his pics. >>11018712....while I love the idea of underslung chainsaws, I don't know how to feel about them actually giving one to *the* S.A.W. Viper. I feel it kind of undermines the entire point of the S.A.W. Viper and is only there because the people who designed it don't know *why* he's actually called a S.A.W. Viper in the first place. Also wish he came with a more standard looking LMG as an option. But I'm sure I have tons of extras lying about. Also also, I have no problems with the collar and that's really the only big change from his OG look. >>11018818What >>11018849 said, it's a laryngophone. I'm just glad ol' Jackie finally getting a mainline figure again. He was one of my favorites as a kid and the fact he never got an ME release outside of the convention stuff has been a huge hole in my collection. Not sure what's going on with the hook on his gun though, and he looks younger then I expected. But those issues aren't enough to stop me from grabbing him.
>>11018848Got one of them and 2 bat's.
>>11018848Fucking hell. The black pants are so much better.
>>11018915>Overall the IGs look great, but I'm kinda concerned about no visable weapon stowage anywhere in his picsThey got storage but yeah, wasn't very apparent in the stuff posted last thread.
>>11018785Green is perfect and the og head didn't need updating. By the way the OG fig is at Ollies for $5 in masse if you want some custom fodder army builder bodies.
>>11018788This guy looks great. General release?
>>11018935>og head didn't need updatingYes it did, it's 10-15 years too old. And why did they put the camo on the beret? It isn't on the original
>>11018944It’s on the card art
>>11018788>>11018796I have a MOC Hiss Tank CC because I'm not opening my Hiss Tank until my birthday. Honestly I was deathly afraid of opening CC because of how high the prices have gone on him, but now I wonder if I should eBay him and get the vac metal reissue to open up.
>>11018788This is the last figure I need. My G.I. Joe collecting will be done.
>>11018944>why did they put the camo on the beret?So they can sell you another Stalker whenever it comes out.
B.A.T.s man looks dope
>>11018712My main gripe is the bomb squad neck cuff and brick wall torso. I wander if the nex armor is removal like trip wire.
>>11018800Cmon op, weve got visitors in the general. So ofcourse some hot head jumped the gun. Youre a good guy op. >>11018818Nice! First doc and now dial tone, i can start building a lobby playset for the desk bound joes! >>11019024Looks like a mmpr grunt with the bat head on the ig body. Idk, im still just not floored like i would normally be by these reveals. Its nothing awful but maybe im just expecting something hasbro cant do right now. The iron grenadier looks wonky, a bat is bat, alpine doesnt have a sack of any kind, storm shadow is cool, the retro stuff is fine, saw viper looks like a eod specialist, blah blah blah. They will be doing another few streams this month correct?
Oh, so i just read that stinger is an amazon exclusive that Should be available at bbts or ee. Just in case you guys didnt hear it or missed the stream like i did.
>>11018750Keep dilating
>>11019049>mmpr
>>11019062BBTS doesn't ever initially get the Amazon exclusives. They only just recently got the Blue Ninja Amazon figures and that's like, two years or so after the fact. Same with Kamakura. They do get some of the store-exclusive stock, but I don't think it is ever intended to initially go to them. Most of the stuff they get a year or two after the fact.I wouldn't exactly count on them getting the Stingers. I wouldn't say it is impossible. It isn't something I would hold off on getting, though, given how difficult the Vamp ended up being to get, even though they have said the Stinger should be a lot easier to get than the Vamp.
>>11018915Og S.A.W. was supposed to have some sort of LMG with a saw attachment, it's visible in the card art, but due to whatever reason they ended up giving him an over-scaled machine gun. This one is just bringing back that concept and going full on it.>>11018944Nah, the head is perfectly fine, looking older is just a minor complaint on a really great sculpt.
Damn shooting someone on the groundWhat is this, someone posting toys on instagram?
I still don't get the complaints about the S.A.W. Viper; the neck is obviously a reference to past versions, and since day one they've been shown to be massive brick people.
WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP Toyfair magazine would have killed for a photo like this
>>11019024I'm glad they talked about standardizing their pegs from now on when they brought out this figure. That's been a big problem, especially with the BAT's specifically.
>>11019114I feel like we're so used to their other lines being made up of people who just Google reference photos that we forget actual fans work on this line
By now you must surely have BATS you just have posed under another character's feet
>>11019114Wait is he NOT a troop builder? But the IG is? Making the IG look like a main character will make a lot more people join the ranks at least. Like do you wanna be a guy in a ski mask or THAT
>>11019117It's almost sad man.>>11019120Wait... those boots.I think that's IG Destro.
Is that alternate head the IG BAT comes with just a repaint of the Arctic BAT head, or is it new?
>>11019117>>11019137>actual fans work on this lineuhhh yeah… sure.
>>11019141She doesn't work on the line though. She's just some marketing person.
>>11019144Well only a actual fan would know that
>>11019105Nah, the head it too old. If you're fine with that so be it, but an alternate version would be nice to have like we got with Duke, Scarlett, and Gung-Ho.
>>11019135They are. An individual SAW viper is kinda infamous for killing a bunch of named Joes in the comics though. I’m only gonna get one, myself
>>11019140Just a repaint of the Arctic one
>>11019158Same here. Just getting one SAW Viper so he can be >THAT SAW Viper
>>11019141
>>11019144She's just as responsible as robo don't know was responsible for articulated icons and those shitty skeletons failing. It's a team effort, people.
>>11019086I just saw that as an addendum to a post on toynews, im only worried due to amazon exclusives being gone in seconds and that alot of people missed vamp so now they will be extra determined to miss the stinger. At about $100 id guess it may not just sell through on day one. I did see those blue ninjas on bbts today while pre ordering todays new figures, totally forgot about them.
>>11019184It took a couple days for the Vamp to sell out on Pulse. I think people hesitated at first because of the price, but once it was gone it was gone.Hopefully the Stinger is easier to get, but people will probably buy even more since it is even more touted as a sort of army building vehicle, since it comes with a generic trooper whereas the Vamp actually came with a named guy.
>>11019190I know i almost balked at the price but thankfully pulse withdrew my money while i was asleep. A hundred bucks is a hundred bucks man, it cuts my poor ass in half without nickel and diming my way to save up so idk how those people can army build a stinger. But good for them, just leave us one.
>>11019114Hoping the arm, neck, and leg guards aren't baked on and can slip off. Im all for upgrades but I want this look for my SAW Viper, with just the vest.
>>11018850>Cobra Commander doesn't show anything resembling skin in his public appearance so recruits can project themselves onto him.This explains a lot.
>>11018712I need him. Hopefully the neck shield is removable but if not, still killer.>>11018785Maybe. I dunno, I don't like that they didn't give him a new head. I mean, it's not a bad face but it's a bit oversized and over aged looking like a lot of other anons point out.>>11018788Need. So dope with the vac metal mask but also an optional hood head would have been nice...>>11018792I hate the reuse. Fuck that shit. Not horrible but disappointing for real.>>11018818He's dope. I'll probably grab.>>11018848Pre-ordered two along with V2 Storm Shadow. I was a bit bugged by the design change at first but it's grown on me fast. Bring on IG Destro!>>11019115>>11019112>>11019120These sick photos got me tempted...
>>11019214Cobra appealing to zoomers with his own VTuber...
>>11019258It sadly all makes sense
>>11019276He'll tell them Cobra stands for Casually Offending Boomers Resisting Affirmative-action to get the 20 somethings
>>11019175
>>11018848>can't have cobra clansman>destro's reich are a-okwhatever hasbro
>>11018932That's reassuring. At the very least being able to stow the pistol and laser blaster is good enough for me. >>11019024Now that's making me want to buy at least one of these new B.A.T.s as well because that just looks awesome. Might even try to swap the legs on em to give the B.A.T. Grenadier the full black pants look from >>11018928.Also, now I'm head canoning these Iron Grenadiers as improved and updated B.A.Ts that Destro keeps for his own forces. ....I wonder if the IG helm would fit on that head. >>11019105That gun looks ridiculous in all the wrong ways. It's like something McFarlane would come up with. The little pointy harpoon "saw" that's not even longer then barrel is just icing on the "wtf" cake. And apparently, the oversized gun was a mistake from the designer. He sent over the 2x up paint master scale specs instead of the shrunk down production toy specs.
>>11019179Except those didn't fail. Moron.
>>11019355Happy that we're finally getting SAW-Viper, but not getting the huge oversized gun is more of a disappointment than Hasbro modernizing the uniform.Hasbro, if you can hear me, it's not too late. Give SAW-Viper his huge gun! Do it for Doc!
>>11019355>It's like something McFarlane would come up with.I mean, it came right out of the 90s so yeah, it checks.I didn't know about the scaling mistake, that's interesting.
>>11019141She works for Hasbro, some fat 40-something pedophile toy repainter never will. Social justice works.
>>11019282I think we got something here.
>>11019395>>11019389>>11019386Are you okay
>>11019419It's a bot. Don't bother.
>>11019507I love this. Bot is the new troll. It's even better, when you think that you'd be responding to a program, rather than to a human troll.
>>11019507Beta bot even. Regular bots aren't that retarded anymore.
Got 2 infantry soldiers from Amazon. Great figures, love how down to earth they are. My small nitpick is that the two heads don't come with any kind of eye protection, if you see pictures of soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan they always wear sunglasses more than a balaclava. Also the hands are made out plastic that is too hard, they don't hold the rifles well.Do you guys know any generic 1/12th heads with sunglasses?
>>11019627Gridiron Studios has a lot of different headgear options, expensive though.
>>11019627lol these POGs are S4 clerks
>>11019627Classified either has stiff hands or soft weapons. Its a nit pick issue in the line. Really looking forward to the marine figure and wouldnt mind this becoming a full subline.
>>11019992>Its a nit pick issue in the lineNo it's not
why Iron Grenadier and Storm Shadow have the sword sheath on the right? It doesn't make sense for right hander
I’m a zoomer and wanted to ask, did the ftc lawsuit with hasbro really stop anyone from making shows that also helped toy sales? We have ygo and beyblade and Pokemon so I don’t understand
>>11020137I think stations had to offer X amount of hours of edutainment programming, but i do not believe it changed the content being made. Plus, cable was getting big at the time and i think that cable and broadcast tv have seperate rules, more new shows were moving to cable.
>>11020035Same reason why og Storm Shadow's quiver was tilted the wrong way. And the same reason over half the characters still get vertical hinges on their left wrists as opposed to their right. One of the designers is a dolt
>>11020035At least they were consistent in the photos of Storm Shadow and had him using his bow left handed.
Going to have to pay attention next stream and see if Lenny is left handed. He already said he was putting tatoos on everyone because of his personal preference, he might be turning them all left handed to satisfy his ego too.
>>11020035IG sword is on the same as his original figure at least. But yea, that bugs me too.
>>11020032Soft weapons is a serious issue at Hasbro.Varying degrees of stiff hands is a nit pick.
>>11019992>>11020617At least they brought you they are using a new material for the weapons and accessories so they are more rigid. I hope that's something being adopted as a company standard. I'm especially sick of the gummy blasters with Star Wars figures because a lot of them are thin in places so they just become like rubber bands when you two hand pose them.
>>11020617Soft weapons for Classified figures is especially bad because they usually look *really* nice, but are completely unusable as they'll bend if left alone too long. Practically killed my excitement for the line for the while as I had to go out and start getting replacement weapons for every new figure. For how high quality Classified as a whole is, that soft plastic is absolutely unacceptable.
>>11020698>unusable because it warps a bit....Retarded.In the real world, something that snaps or can't be held at all is unusable.Even the Elite team Force whatever figures' weapons were still usable despite being slightly too thin and bendy.You know what's actually unusable? Corpshit guns, because they can't be held at all and not even to scale.
>>11020698>but are completely unusable as they'll bend if left alone too long.What do you live in a fucking volcano? I've had guns warp in the plastic, warp in the shitty paper bag, but never once I got them on the shelf. I'm looking at them right now.
Look we've been over this, it's trauma from thumbs snapping making them over correct
I wonder if this will be a release one day.
Somewhere out there, some crazy guy is printing a Classified USS FLAGG at this moment.
>>11020833God that's fucking awesome.
>>11020833The volume must be insane.A classified scale Flagg would be 11-12 feet long, the size of a small car. I would assume it would be easier to just build it rather than 3d printe hundreds of pieces.
>>11020863But enough about your ego
>>11020828Love space marines Iron Grenadiers.I'm sure they will. Lenny said all eras of G.I. Joe are on the table, and it seems Pursuit of Cobra is a heavy influence on Classified Series.
>>11020718THANK YOU. I’m far more worried about the stress marks forming in figures’ stiff hands than gummy weapons that have pretty much no impact at all and, if anything, make posing easier. The level of frustration people have over the the guns is moronic
>>11021111>The level of frustration people have over the the guns is moronicNot really. A bad issue isn't forgivable just because of a worse issue. It just means you have two issues. The limp-ass, wobbledy guns and accessories are fucking stupid when it looks like you've got ACME cartoon guns with wacky barrels pointed in every which direction except straight forward. Or guns that are bent at 45 degree angles. The figures just holding the guns causes them to deform.Stressed hands is a problem too, for sure. The hands probably need to be a little softer, and many of the weapons need to be a little more rigid.
>>11020833I like this Terrordrome. I'm not a fan of 3D printed toys usually, but the size and scope of this is impressive. >>11020828100%, I expect them to fudge a POC Iron Grenadier out of existing parts. Maybe give it a name like "Heavy Infantry." >>11018848>>11018932>>11019024>>11019112>>11019115>>11019120Really need a Haslab Demon for these guys. >>11018731>>11018732No way Hasbro wouldn't make you buy another figure or three just for a hooded version. 1 in updated classified style. 1 in toy colors on the retro mold. 1 in black. 1 in Crimson. Then... regular retro hooded, but only after you had to buy a bunch of variants in the wrong color first. >>11018792I like these guys the more I see them.>>11018915>I don't know how to feel about them actually giving one to *the* S.A.W. Viper. I feel it kind of undermines the entire point of the S.A.W. Viper I feel the same way.
>>11020833Holy shit. That's awesome. I have my 3D printer and I've made some gun racks, boxes and shit, but I've never tried or even thought on something as big.
What the hell is this? I was watching a few Valaverse videos on Youtube and dude was destroying the Classified Infantry Soldier. Hating on Hasbro is ok, but really? He gets to hate on them when his figures look like this? Accesories are great but what's up with this dude's head?
>>11021499Vala is an unoriginal fuck and an asshole. That why Hasbro fired him
>>11021499>>11021508His unmasked characters are generally bad, my only interest with them lies in the weapons and hands. The Not-BAT looks neat, but I imagine he'll intentionally understock those initially to drive up demand.
>>11021520It's just four background mercs who get beat up by Jackie Chan and someone from Metal Gear Soild Revengence
>>11021526>Metal Gear Soild RevengenceIt's actually called Metal Gear Rising, sir
>>11021520I look at the samurai and I just can't help but see the "Impossiburu" guy.
>>11018915>>11021387The saw is almost definitely removable. It even has a handle>>11021150>A bad issue isn't forgivable just because of a worse issueI said the guns weren’t an issue at all. Agree to disagree though. I can see why bent weapons would be annoying but I only have one figure where it’s noticeable. Clearly that’s not the case with everyone else
>>11021807My two cents on the matter is the hands being stiff, but its not an issue once i heat them up. If a gun gets warped i can straighten it out too. As long as it isnt stuck or backwards joints i try to roll with it.
>>11018724>SAW Viper looks cool. I like they recovered the original concept of the literal saw.Really? Because a SAW is a squad automatic weapon.
>>11021807I just think the guy who said they'll flop on their own is either a liar or he lives in a place where it's so hot toys will flop either way
Weapons and accessories took a noticeable dip in quality and sturdiness in 2023, which is a flaw that Hasbro themselves acknowledged and said would be fixed eventually. Why are you people defending it?
>>11021910What people? Please quote who you are referring to and disagree with how they're "defending" it
>>11021910I’m not trying to defend it, its just never phased me. Ironically, one of the few weapons I’ve had an issue with was not a rubbery one but Shadow Tracker’s bow. I nearly broke the peg for the stabilizer attachment when trying to pull it off. I’m inclined to blame that on the stiff plastic but maybe I’m just a moron
>>11018712God this looks so dumpy. Didn't anyone stand back and realize "hey, we're supposed to be making cool looking toys ultimately?" This strict adherence to Hasbro's dumpy house style that makes everyone look like common unheroic people in cosplay is ruining every line they own.
>>11021969I want a Saw Viper that evokes this kind of energy, not some middle aged slightly overweight dude in awkward clunky looking gear that makes him look nigh-immobile.
>>11021971Agreed. I'll still get at least one of him in case it's all we're getting, but hoping they'll do a Retro SAW-Viper that looks like that guy, and has the original gun.
>>11021969>>11021971>>11022101Thats how i also feel about the iron grenadier, but with him its just something about the waist and legs and for me its just off and wonky instead a sleak regal looking mfer. Every figure cant be a home run but this whole wave is meh, i guess storm shadow is cool.
>>11021150>many of the weapons need to be a little more rigid.Who fucking cares.These submachine guns being held by the ODST figures are warping from being held by two hands this way, but can you even notice from these two angles? NOPE.This is how most guns will look and you basically need to be looking directly above to see it.Nevermind just being slightly bent won't damage the gun, because bendy plastic means it won't stress out. They'll return to their original shape with no problem. Harder plastics will stress and are harder to pose with the figures, because there's no give when it comes to posing with the figure.
>>11022120Storm Shadow and Iron Grenadier both look overdesigned with too much stuff added compared to the original figures. The Iron Grenadier would work better as an officer than as the basic foot soldiers in Destro's army.
>>11022142Oh it's you
>>11022164Im hoping storm shadows vest or waist covering are removable, just seems a bit much for a ninja to wear. Maybe these 'flubs' are just buttering us up for the redesigned retro releases?
>>11021971The armor looks like it's removal, but I want to see how it looks with just that big bulky vest.
>>11022474I just don't like the idea that Hasbro's business model requires us to buy a character's figure twice, first to prove there's an audience for that guy, then again for the retro version we really wanted in the first place.
>>11022557Its nice to have an option i guess. I just wish the retro line would ofder up some figures people missed out on instead of small variants and repaints like recondo or destro or trooper etc.
>>11022557>Companies should cater to me personally>they should never try anything new what an entitled bitch.Nevermind you have the option for not buying the new version in the first place.Nevermind there's been a hundred thousand versions of Storm Shadow made already and there's going to be at least ten thousand more produced before Hasbro finally kills the line, so you have plenty of time to actually get what you want.>>11022194yeah, it's me, who owns a hundreds of millions of toys and prefer the bendy weapons over stiff shit, because they actually last longer and still look as good as the stiff ones. Plus, that bendiness allows for more realistic shouldering too. That extra give is as good as inner shoulder joints.The only thing i really want most from accessories is them being in more than straight black or gray, because 95% of toy companies already exceed what i should expect from weapons (detail and being correctly scaled). And with 2+ tone weapons, Hasbro is improving.
Valkyries are back up on pulse and still part of the powerday sale if you missed them the first time.
>>11022875Curse you responsibilty! Curse you to heck! Gotta pass.
>>11022860>and prefer the bendy weapons over stiff shit, because they actually last longer and still look as good as the stiff onesHamhands.>That extra give is as good as inner shoulder joints.RETARD.
>>11023129>rifle too long>shoulder joint and inner shoulder joint still doesn't allow gun to be shouldered correctly>slightly bend stock on weapon to do it>looks great at 1400° viewing anglesno, you're the retard>b-b-b-but that top down perspective of the gun having a 10° bend ruins it forever!Yeah, if it was a hard plastic.Hundred bucks says you wouldn't even be able to tell which guns were made from rubbery shit or hard plastics if it came down to it.It just takes a 3 second dip in hot water to reset the plastic.
>>11023179If it can't shoulder the gun properly it can't shoulder it properly. I'd rather just accept the gun can't be shouldered 100% realistically than warp the gun for one pose.>Hundred bucks says you wouldn't even be able to tell which guns were made from rubbery shit or hard plastics if it came down to it.If I'm handling a rubbery gun and a decent stiff gun I'll absolutely be able to tell which one is which. Unless you're a retard that never actually handles his toys and just puts them on a shelf (and then throws them in a pile when he gets bored of them) you're gonna know.Classified's guns aren't even that bad (granted I'm a relative newcomer to the line, but the one figure that I do own, Zaranna, has a decently stiff gun) but I'd still rather have a good hard plastic gun that isn't going to risk warping rather than a bendy one whose bendiness might come in handy for a very few pictures....Wait, didn't you go on a massive autismfest about how a complex 1:12 model kit of a gun shouldn't cost more than a rubbery single-piece gun with a few bits of paint on it? Never mind, this is classic Subjectanon poorfaggotry. Stay mad that people like hard plastic over rubbershit.
>>11022875Get some more and find some zarana's at ollie's for a proper custom.
>>11023198Nice idea man. Could you maybe swap the arms too, just to kinda add some more bare skin? Yknow, like a halter top type look?
>>11023208Its not actually mine, I just now found it while searching for head swap ideas.
>>11023192>it has to be 100% correctly done or nothing!!!the retarded kind of autistic, eh?>didn't you go on a massive autismfest about how a complex 1:12 model kit of a gun shouldn't cost more than a rubbery single-piece gun with a few bits of paint on itNo, that's just you inventing bullshit because you want to argue after being proven you're autistically retarded.I've always said that complexly molded shit will always cost more, and you probably only know about this because of what I've said in the past. Whether a company offers it at a fair price or not is something else.pic of super gummy weapons, but still looks cool as fuck to normal people who aren't uptight over nothing.
>>11023265God that picture made me buy so many of those Red Ninja. I think I have about a dozen left on card in a tub in my garage. I miss when Hasbro had those awesome dioramas for cons. Now the figures just sit on a table.
>>11023265>>it has to be 100% correctly done or nothing!!!Reading comprehension zero as usual I see.
>>11023286>I'd rather just accept the gun can't be shouldered 100% realistically than warp the gun for one pose.There's nothing to misconstrue about this.You'd rather have NO SHOULDER than faking it, when faking it is indistinguishable from the real thing at almost every angle. In person, even.That's literally "all or nothing", retard.Yeah, i get it, I'm talking to a retard who can't words good, but where's your mom or handlers to keep you away from harmful adult sites? >>11023278>I miss when Hasbro had those awesome dioramas for cons. Now the figures just sit on a table.It's because 1/12 is just too fucking big.It's why we rarely see cool shit like pic anymore for modern GI Joes. This shit takes up more than the USS Flagg toy does if it was done in 1:12 and who even has the space for the USS Flagg even if they have the money for it? I'd love a USS Flagg, but it'd have to become a coffee table and i might as well make a custom wooden USS Flagg that works as a coffee table than buy a real USS Flagg.
>>11023324>You'd rather have NO SHOULDER than faking itNo, I'd rather just accept a 95% accurate pose without warping the plastic rather than forcing it into a shouldering pose and bend the gun. Are you retarded?Oh wait. Of course you are. You'll talk about how not wanting to bend guns to achieve a slightly more realistic pose is "autistic all-or-nothing" thinking but at the same time will claim a figure with a marginally better likeness to some pedowood demagogue is a better purchase than one with a fractionally less accurate face but a better literally everything else, or that it's impossible for a bulky figure to have better than 60 degree elbows despite having evidence to the contrary posted multiple times, with the excuse being "he can't quite do this pose perfectly so it doesn't count" (even though the other figure was doing the pose much closer).Also I see your memory is atrocious.>>11023265>No, that's just you inventing bullshit because you want to argue after being proven you're autistically retarded.You literally claimed that Little Armoury model kits should cost the same as single-piece rubbery guns from Marauder etc because the rubbery guns had a few paint apps.>It's because 1/12 is just too fucking big.Nah, 1/12 is the ideal scale for characters. 1/18 is too small to get decent articulation in to regular human characters (which Joes are) without them looking janky or being fragile. Yes, you CAN get acceptable articulation out of a 1/18 figure but you'll always be able to get more out of a 1/12 one just by virtue of having more size to work with. Stuff like JoyToy's 40K line works as well as it does because Space Marines are bigger than average humans and thus have more room for joints. With most of the designs in G.I. Joe, they're regularly proportioned humans. For a kids' line it'd be fine but for a collector line, even a budget one, less so.Plus, we're getting vehicles in Classified anyway.
>>11023335>a 95% accurate pose without warping the plastic rather than forcing it into a shouldering pose and bend the gun.≠>I'd rather just accept the gun can't be shouldered 100% realistically than warp the gun for one pose.Nice of you to change your goalpost, because you're not so retarded to continue arguing "all or nothing"So I'll ask you a question, why are you so against the rubbery plastic? Forcing a pose doesn't damage the plastic. It has no feelings, so it doesn't care if the plastic is warping. The plastic can be as straight as anything out there and can return to its original shape either by just bending it back or putting it in hot water.Did you have a bad experience with Ori Toy's Acid Rain line, which were super fucking bendy and rotted in less than 5 years? Because Hasbro has shown since the 00s that their rubbery plastics won't break easily and I've never heard anyone complaining that their 00 figures crumbling. Mine aren't, but I also have Acid Rain figures that haven't rotted on me from a decade ago, so maybe i live in a magical place that keeps them immortal.Help me understand why you're being so autistic about rubbery plastics.>1/18 is too small to get decent articulation in to regular human characters Wow, ignorant. My Microman figures have better poseability than the majority of action figures today. Engineering has been proven over 20 years ago and the opaque plastic figures are as durable as the day i bought them long ago.pic is also of super poseable figures that are better than the majority of figures today, are 1:18, and check out how straight and sharp the sculpt on the weapons are, despite being made of rubbery crumbly shit.
>>11023324>>Dat Scalpel customNice
>>11023376>Nice of you to change your goalpost, because you're not so retarded to continue arguing "all or nothing"So you can't read, got it.>So I'll ask you a question, why are you so against the rubbery plastic?It warps easily, which aside from the obvious problem of bent parts also means sharp details often end up mushy, and can lead to tolerance issues. Also plasticizer leakage.Plus, on a more subjective note, it just doesn't feel good having parts be all bendy and soft.>My Microman figures have better poseability than the majority of action figures today.They also look hella janky. And a lot of Micromen have major breakage problems which have been well documented, and no amount of "works on my machine" is going to disprove.>pic is also of super poseable figures that are better than the majority of figures today>90 degree elbows>Super poseable>Better than the majority of figures todayLol. No.
>>11023324>1/12 is just too fucking big.Yup. Volume-wise, a 1/18 diorama is only 8/27 or roughly 30% the space.
>>11023234Well its your idea now anon. Im disregarding your honesty and attributing this work to you. I mean, if thsts cool with you. Never had the guts to try to take a figure apart myself.
>>11023385NTA, but 1/12 is really not different enough from 1/18 for what you get on average, especially from Hasbro. As reluctant as they are, you can get most of the same joints in there. This is from around 2007. Sculpt proportions are a bit scrawny, but you get even butterfly joints in this, hands are swappable so you can get ones with ulnar/radial wrists(for sword pointing). Only other possible upgrades here would be mid-calf swivels, better hip design, and toe-bendOver the decade and a half since, face detail has made huge leaps and bounds for both 1/18 and 1/12, but they're still about the same level on average.I would say that 1/12 has more opportunity if they do things like ab crunch/knee-to-chest movements or more expressive neck movements, but those types of figures aren't the norm
Hey those vampire GI Joe Classified rip off things finally have some non CGI renders pictures
>>11023385Wow, you said a whole lot of bullshit.First, yes, the breakage on the Microman figures is well documented, hence me being very specific about the plastics. hint for retards who hate reading:>the opaque plastic figures are as durable as the day i bought them long ago.Only the transluscent plastics had massive problems. Takara having shit sculptors doesn't mean their engineering wasn't fantastic, but that's just your cope, huh?Second, rubbery plastic can hold sharp details as good as anything made of harder plastics. You have no idea of what you're talking about and your collection must be tiny, because there's tons and tons of toylines that prove that. 90s Spawn toys. GI joe from the 00s. GI Joe from the 10s. Acid Rain. Hiya Toys. McFarlane from the 10s and 20s. Mezco in the 00s and 10s.I can go on and on, because bendy plastic has been in use for decades by so many companies i can't help but think you're either a newfag or a massive poorfag. How the fuck can you miss all that shit?Or are you just being disingenuous to try and have a point, like you've been doing for 4 posts now? So many goalpost movements and nuh uhs, like ignoring the range of motion on the Acid Rain figures being amazing, because you want to nitpick their single jointed elbow... despite it providing better than most single jointed elbows on many 1/12 figures.Since you're a retard: there's no reason a 1:18 figure can't be as poseable as a 1:12 figure, because most range of motion simply comes from cutting away the the sculpt. And as proven by Microman, their joints aren't any more fragile than 1:12 lines despite having way smaller pegs and pins... than even other 1:18 lines.pic of those rubbery Halo weapons, which are as sharply detailed as the harder plastic found on the Dare body, if not more, since the gun has a shit ton of technical details not found in the video game, because the game used low res textures compared to the detail you'll find on the toys.
>>11023419I feel a big thing people never mention when talking about this is hasbro's choice of materials... you can make very detailed and articulated 1/18s. But with this shitty gummy soft plastic hasbro uses on their 1/12 figures? Nah.
>>11023439I'd argue that that material's rotten for most things. Joint too tight or seized during transit from the factory? Better freeze it overnight and even then that shit might tear.I'll not sling arrows on which scale is better, just say that I prefer 1/18 because of what I said in >>11023398 I like having teams, playsets, and more. 1/12 to me always feels like it should be only a few characters maximum, and if I had specific characters I liked that much, I'd probably want something more like 1/6 to make them more prominent to display.
>>11023419>face detail has made huge leaps and boundsThis is solely on companies using those printed paint jobs and only for companies who had budget paint jobs. Toy companies who actually had a good budget made far superior paint jobs than what you find today.Mold and sculpt quality hasn't changed for like 30 years... aside from using different sculptors, who may or may not have gotten better (and most aging artists actually get worse and not because of physical ailments)BTW, Takara made those VOTOM figures and their bodies got updated versions of the Micromans from the early 00s.ALSO, I'd like to say that the only thing 1:12 can do better than 1:18 scale is paint. Paint tools do not scale down well, especially for mass market level paint jobs. So even dry brushing can look pretty shit, because their brushes need to be smaller and their technique needs to be more minute.Factories who are trained for 1:12 figures will fuck up 1:18, and we've seen that happen a lot of times. Even Hot Toys fucked up their 1:18 lines and only fixed this problem by their last line (pic).
I drove for two hours and you guys are still talking about this
>>11023439Yeah, just look at SIC KT. Some of the most detailed 1/18 figures I've ever seen. AND they pose well too. This scale is not the problem, it's material choice and laziness.
>>11023464Goddamn, but I miss this line.
>>11023467Me too. Just remembered it existed because of this discussion. I still have a few in storage, Den-O was my favorite. Look how fucking sexy this dude is. His demonic compound eyes and that dark wash on the chestplate get me every time.
>>11023494I know Hasbro would be the main barrier but for shits and giggles I would love to see a Kamen Rider and G.I. Joe crossover. There's plenty of Snake Riders that can fit in with Cobra.
>>11023494What pisses me off more is that there's nothing stopping Hasbro from doing this. 2011 Low-Light's bullet and SIC KT's DenLiner crayon are two of the smallest accessories I own, both are from around the same time even.
>>11023511wow, now THAT'S a small accessory for 1/18
>>11023494This line was so high quality it shames everything that came after it. Look at the number of different alternating finishes alone: matte undersuit. soft satiny metallics. high gloss white armor. candy coat red, with and without wash. the clear compound eyes over sculpted detail. Hell, look at the microscopic tampos on the sword. it practically screams "expensive." Yet it debuted at a mere 1,200 yen.
>>11023464I agree with what everyone said about these but the Garo figures in the KT line sucked shit with some of the most brain dead articulation I've ever seen
>>11023569I never bought any of the Garo ones, but that is a bit odd, considering that all the Kamen Rider stuff had pretty decent engineering.
>>11023574Okay you know what, I never looked to see if it was a problem with other people, so maybe it's mine and it's like a factory error, but I got the first release Garo when it first came out, and the arms don't have a swivel just a hinge going inward. It's hard to describe, but it's like a Superman toy that can only do hands on his hips pose, but not a scratching behind the head pose. Yeah it's fine for holding a sword with two hands but it's gay for every other pose, like I said, never checked to see if it's just mine and someone at the factory spilled glue on it
>>11023456>Toy companies who actually had a good budget made far superior paint jobs than what you find today.Lol no. Realistic faces on toys absolutely sucked before Figuarts style face printing became the norm.
>>11023461Its comical isnt it? I dont think this general has ever had such a long winded discussion.
>>11023957It's half of this thread now. Definitely a record.
>>11023869>i only owned shit toys thus everything was bad before a budget cutting paint process was usedretard, go drown in a pool.
>>11024197Retard, look at the average ToyBiz figure. Their faces all sucked- and that was a line praised (at the time) for paint. Though granted, said praise was probably because nothing better existed then. Nowadays ToyBiz paint looks like Babby's First Custom tier mess.Even the pic you posted looks pretty "meh", though not helped by the trademark godawful DCD jointing. Nothing on that face couldn't be achieved just as well by a print.Painted faces are obsolete. Get over it.
>>11024262Good work at ignoring what i said and inventing your own goalposts to be right.You're the goodest arguer in the world, retard.pic of what you're ignoring to try and be right>ib4 it's shitcope
>>11024358I mean, it IS shit. Look at that hat and how sloppy it is. Pathetic.
>>11024367>still ignoring the argumentSure is smartest retard in the worldAnd there's still companies who use the old ways, and it still looks superior
>>11024374>And there's still companies who use the old ways, and it still looks superiorPic unrelated I guess?Why would any toy company use a more expensive method with less consistent and inferior results to faceprinting?
>>11023569Those things fall apart easily
>>11018818OK, what the fuck? Of all of the times to finally create a head sculpt with the beret being part of it instead of a loose item they pick fucking Dial Tone? Also, Dial Tone has a thick mustache not a pencil thin one like Zap. And he doesn't have a buzz cut too; full head of hair.
>>11023324What the devil is this and how did they make it?
>>11024425Eh... just be thankful it's the real Dial Tone and not Warren Sex Pest/Pay Me Money And I Won't Bother To Do Research Ellis's female Dial Tone who Hasbro tried to shove down our throats for a while while limiting OG Dial Tone to super expensive Joeclub and Joecon figures. Also that they gave him proper gloved hand, even if they are wrong color, instead of those gimp ass fingerless gloved hands which can't even be switched out due to their connecting pegs being incompatible with 99% of the rest of the line.
>>11024388Just to make sure, you're the same retard who doesn't think 1:18 can have good engineering and are autistic about the elasticity of plastics, right?pic of hyperdetailed mini that are more flexible than any of those colorful musclemen figures and their wannabes, which you want to pretend isn't possible.
>>11024432Looks like it's a frankenstein of a hundred playsets and a bunch of trash that got painted up to look like a 90s playset.The biggest part looks to be the GI Joe mobile command center, with shit added to that, like those gum containers being used for those glass containers that the zombies are in.Some of it might be wood or placard.
>>11024489>doesn't think 1:18 can have good engineeringIt can, just not as good as 1:12, at least not without looking really weird. There's a reason 1:12 is the industry standard and 1:18 is mostly dead.>pic of hyperdetailed mini that are more flexible than any of those colorful musclemen figures and their wannabes, which you want to pretend isn't possible.Lol, Bones. That shit has been mocked all over the internet for details going mushy with minimal handling and larger models sagging under their own weight. Hell, you can even see the sword is slightly crooked in the bullshot there.You sound really salty because people like plastic that doesn't warp. So salty you have to bring up a bunch of irrelevant nonsense about how sloppy paintjobs from dead companies are better than faceprinting (they're not) along with autistic scalefagging.Let me guess, next you'll start ranting about how 1:12 is actually a conspiracy or something. You're like a /toy/ version of Alex Jones except without the charisma or track record for being right.
>>11024510>complains about everything except the parts that prove soft plastics can hold sharp detailsure is retard who lost long agocheck out this amazing articulation from a Microman figure from two decades ago
>>11024525>>complains about everything except the parts that prove soft plastics can hold sharp detailCan you read, fag? Did you read the part where I said>That shit has been mocked all over the internet for details going mushy with minimal handling?>check out this amazing articulation from a Microman figure from two decades agoYep, and it looks pretty weird as a result. If it were 1:12 it could achieve the same pose without the odd proportions.I like 1:18. I've been enjoying JoyToy's 40K stuff a lot for instance. But there's no doubt that for character-driven lines based around regular-sized humans like G.I. Joe, 1:12 is the superior choice.
>>11024541>detail can suddenly go mushy one yearlol, sure is retard playing pretend. What you see is what you get. In fact, all these internet photos don't even give a proper idea of how sharp and minute the details actually are, because shit lighting and shit camera.You're a completely worthless human.Nothing you say is based on reality and i question if you actually own anything to have an actual real opinion on what you're shitting out.You're just a poorfag whose cognitive dissonance is in overdrive for all the cool shit you're missing out on.Pic is a tiny fraction of the stuff i own and why I don't need to lie to anyone nor myself, because my view is based on reality.
>>11024579>All these words and yet no argumentConcession accepted.
>>11023986They have been slapping at each other through out an entire work day.So what kind of chocolate bar does quick kick prefer? Plain chocolate? Almonds? Peanuts? Goat ass hazelnut chocolate bar? The figure has a red wrapper so maybe krackle bars? I think the chocolate bar is essential to understanding his back story.
>>11024510The reason isn't engineering constraints, certainly not for your average 1/12 figure, it's because the bean-counters believe that larger figures sell better than smaller ones when, currently, parts count is one of the main drivers of cost. This figure's from about 2010-11. Only real failures are a lack of double-joint elbows and no butterflies. Both of which exist on other bucks and give both scales trouble. Easier to implement on 1/12, but both possible.
>>11024593It's quite a commitment, I need to acknowledge that.And definitely krackle bars. Those things give you energy for a day, just what a half-naked barefoot soldier needs.>>11024748Man, Marvel Universe was such a cool line, Facebook just reminded me of this loot I got in 2017 for 25 bucks. That Hulk is still the best one they've ever made, not only Hasbro.
>>11024830Krackle are pretty great, but i dont think ive ever sen a full sized bar as adult. Were these figures the 4 in figures? Either way, with dc super powers being pretty good i think we could use a.secret wars homage. You ever try out the final faction toys?
>>11024830Hasbro putting those douche in charge of both MU and ML was the end of MU because he moved all of the budget to ML to push a nearly dead line. Then they had the great reveal that 4" would be for kids and 6" for adults so MU was redesigned at great cost to reduce articulation while gutting sales with inferior molds.The funny thing is his ML comic lines bombed and so management pushed for a nearly all MCU look to each wave. As MU was killed off in favor of the retro 3.75" line, ML took off with the popularity of the MCU... until they were dropping waves so fast that the line stagnated at retail and often made it to clearance which is at the same time the MCU had become over-saturated. Now they charge a fortune for crap getting released for the dozenth time. Ooo, Ms Marvel '00s of Carol with no tits and a tiny bit more articulation. Let me.. fuck that, it's all shit now.4" Joe/MU was the best of times. Now no one can be bothered to make a 4" figure for less than 20 bucks. Fucking MOTU is $18 ($20 for WWE), 6" ML/Joe is $25 to $34 for a single/dlx. No wonder collecting toys is dying so hard.
>>11024842Yes! I had them with my 25th, RoC, Retaliation and PoC Joes, G.I. Joe was a SHIELD faction on my display. And sadly no, I never had any Final Faction guys.>>11024844Man, those were the times. Fuck Hasbro so much. Fuck the industry, in general.>>11024853C'mon, you need to be fair, it's a good time to collect toys, but it isn't what it could be.
>>11024857Yes! But then again, Hasbro's always been like this, so I guess it's what we got. At least Classified is pretty fucking cool.I've been thinking about what some anon said in a previous thread, about G.I. Joe being the only self-sustained toy line out there, not needing any new material to sell, and now I believe he's right.
>>11024853>Moose toys does well, Jakks Pacific does well and offer a variety of scales with their productsAll makers of 4" lines that don't live longer than a few years
>>11018712>No, Not Like This EditionHow did he predict how the thread would go
>>11024879Maybe OP cursed us since the beginning.
>>11018915>Not sure what's going on with the hook on his gun though,I'm guessing you can mount his cell phone as a "scope."
>No guns>Out of scale>Doesn't even look like Sgt. Rock>UglyWe G.I. Joe collectors are so fortunate.
>>11024748>it's because the bean-counters believe that larger figures sell better than smaller ones whenIt's actually because $20 > $10. And this was when 1:12 toys hit that $19.99 ceiling despite production costs increasing and 1:18 still having leeway to increase in price.More revenue is sexier than profits, since stock holders expect growth year after year after year after year. Since costs aren't broken down to stockholders, shrinking profits from 1:12 don't matter and Hasbro can point at revenue growth instead.Like >>11024844 said, they cut the budget on the 1:18 line, and this would funnel the main fans into spending more money on the 1:12 figures. They didn't even reduce the cost on the 1:18 figures, despite cutting around 25% of the articulation and cheaping out by reusing molds even more. So if fans wanted GOOD figures, they had to buy the 1:12 ones.A clear example for illusion of choice.>>11024844>Now no one can be bothered to make a 4" figure for less than 20 bucksWhat about the Jurassic Park, Vintage Star Wars, and Fortnite toys? But yeah, these companies need to push for higher priced toys because even retailers want to make more money on toys. It's basically what happened with comic books, where they'd sell hundreds of thousands of comic books every month, but because they only cost 35¢, they stopped ordering them. Too much of a hassle, despite everyone profiting from them, compared to magazines that cost twice as much.Literally leaving money on the floor, because giant conglomerates want to make hundreds of millions instead of tens of millions.
>>11020863I bet this is the same faggot that says "make your own"
>>11024879I would not have posted >>11021111 had I known it would help derail the thread this badly. I’m sorry bros
>>11025002>letting retards affect what you say onlinegay
So I finally got a good deal for Shadow Tracker. I have great memories from the Pursuit of Cobra version and I have high hopes for this one, from the reviews, he looks amazing. I'll keep you guys updated when he arrives next week.
>>11025002Go chew on your gummy guns.
>>11024921Yeah yeah yeah, BUT its SGT ROCK! Im just a big enough dc mark to buy it, If it doesnt sell out in 3 seconds. Wait, it really doesnt look like rock at all.
>>11025251Yeah man, I get you, Sgt. Rock is awesome. Let's hope at least for a cool figure. That wash (or is it a dry-brush looks great.
I was going around checking on some info about Shadow Tracker, he was one of my favorites from the PoC times and was looking for his card art, and oh boy, we as collectors just never change...
>>11025280Shit, thought I had added the pic.
>>11024921I get Jack Black, Tropic Thunder vibes.
>>11025272I wonder about the torso, otherwise it looks good.
>>11024921>Out of scale>Just use it as G.I. Joe Extreme Sgt. Savage.
Are we allowed to talk about Valaverse? I forgot this company exist. I bought a weapon pack, then forgot about them. Apparently they are up to wave 5 now - so at least they are competent enough to ship products. Are the figures any decent?
>Amazon discounted Metalhead>Youtube reviews all said the QC is poor, rockets don't even fit in the holders & rocket stalks droop because they're made of gummy bearsJust.... get Torch out so I can buy it, glue his damn glasses on & finish the base Dreadnok roster so I can quit.Really what the FUCK were they thinking with the glasses? I had to glue them on Buzzer & Ripper because they do not stay on. Like they ever take them off anyway!
>>11025532There arent any thread cops here, so talk about valaverse if you want. I plan on boring everyone when those monster force toys start shipping.
>>11025532With the exception of Wave 1, the figures are good quality overall. Same articulation and size as Classified. The face sculpts are middle of the road. None are as good as TF Outback, but none as poor as Falcon either. Joints are solid and not gummy. All the parts are compatible with each other, so the line is fun to kitbash. (See photo. Mostly Vala parts with other accessories I had lying around thrown in).I cherry pick the line heavily as I don’t care about Vala’s lore. I mainly buy them to be PMCs as opposed to the enlisted Joe’s. Trigger and Duster look like Blackwater mercs.
>>11025532Tell me this guy doesn't look like someone from Illinois who volunteered to fight for Ukraine
>>11025675Yeah, that guy lives down the street. Has a jacked up, lift kitted f-250. Listens to that nu-country music like jellyroll.
>>11025532Some of their stuff is great, I have a lot of Weapons Packs. Same as a few figures.I have a problem with their proportions tho, they are kind of... puffy? I don't know how to describe them, they just look weird to me.Also, I've heard Bobby Vala is a bit of a psycho.But yeah, keep them Weapons Packs comming Bobby-boy.
Yeah I guess those are better
>>11023425It is nice to see they're actually coming out Maybe
>>11025675>>11025679kek
>>11025721Look how low his shoulders are. Just ridiculous looking.
>>11025721He, vala, wrote a really smart ass reply to a customer that got him some infamy. Not really aware of much else about him, used to work for hasbro. He is living a dream by making his own toys, so thats cool. Ive wanted to try out some of his stuff but honestly i just havent seen one that really grabbed my attention.>>11025730J7st a few more months, maybe? Got quite a few on pre order so hopefully i can try one out before getting a box of them. Gonna read up on that movie in the pic, never heard of it.
>>11018928fucking hell, I love these. I remember buying this 3.75 back in the day to mix with my star wars. I know nothing of GIJoe and am not a collector of it either, but I may buy some of these.
>>11025675>/toy/ doesn't know CowboyThis guy was super popular back then.
>>11025770I have no idea if the movie was good I was just looking at practical effect movies while also making that image and needing to fill that space so I'm sorry if it sucks
>>11025901Nah nah nah, this is kinda up my alley i like weird movies and you saying it has practical fx just sealed it.
>>11025726I finally caved and got her set on sale and a couple crimson guards off amazon. The cherry red just looks too good.
do any of you know if Hasbro considers the classifieds a success worth investing more into? how are their sales? My first ever GI JOE was a GI Joe VS. Cobra, and it was so ugly and cheap that it ruined the toy line for me for nearly the rest of my life. I threw mine into the trashcan after playing with it once. 24~ years later, I saw the Classifieds in the store a few times and didn't pay them any mind, "oh its that ugly thing from when I was a kid" and moved on. I see the light now. As of last month, I have now collected almost every single Classified and it's the consistently highest quality figures I've ever seen. I really hope they keep making them for a good long time.
>>11018717>Super7 O-ring line wave 1 up for pre-orderWHERE????EVERY Goddamn General you cunts copy/paste this LIE and never answer where it's actually on pre-order, because ITS NOT
>>11025730I would fucking love a 1:12 Crimebuster from Heartbeeps...
>>11026424I don't think there are any specific numbers, all we can really do is go how long the line has been around, and how many more releases are planned. The line started in 2020, and the first year or so, it was kind of slow to get going. It has found its footing, though, and really hit its stride around mid 2021.At worst, they've had some 130+ releases in the line, and that's not counting unnumbered figures like the 60th anni releases and the carded retro figures. They held off on vehicles for about the first 2 1/2 years, but now they've had a few HasLab vehicles, and they've had several smaller vehicle releases like the Vamp, air pod/Trubble Bubble/ and at least six or seven different motorcycles (some are repaints, though) the Ferret 4-wheelers, repaints of the Vamp like the Stinger, and teases of another HasLab vehicle which they'll announce or launch next month at SDCC.They definitely have a lot more stuff, they usually show things off in three segments: Name only reveals (these are characters/figures that are far out, but they're just confirming they are making) CGI renders (basically the digital mockups to show us what the figures will look like) then we get the full prototypes with all their accessories and parts shown off. These are figures that are probably just a couple months out from release.The only real negative I can think of is that they've changed up the plastic since the earliest waves, so some parts seem a bit softer than they were a couple years ago, and they tend to reuse a lot of parts, so some joints (especially the hips) feel a bit loose on some figures, but that can tend to happen with a lot of figure lines.Classified is probably one of the best (domestic) figure lines out there right now, considering all the accessories and stuff you get. It is definitely the best thing coming out of Hasbro, by far.I wouldn't say there are really any signs they're stopping or even slowing down anytime soon.
>>11026424Classified Series is awesome; I've never been happier with a toy line in all my life. I'm from the G.I. Joe vs. Cobra days too, and man, those were rough times. I also collected from the 25th Anniversary to the 50th, with Rise of Cobra, Retaliation and Pursuit of Cobra in between, awesome lines too, but nothing really satisfied me enough like Classified does now.>>11026572I think the appearance of real vehicles in the line is the best proof we can get on how well the line is doing. First, they began with smaller vehicles, then they give us the bigger stuff as exclusives, such as the HasLab H.I.S.S. and the V.A.M.P. for Pulse. And now we are seeing that same vehicle as an Amazon and Pulse exclusive. I think Hasbro is releasing the leash more and more.Also, soft and shitty plastic is more of a Hasbro thing than a G.I. Joe thing. They just announced an unpainted Man-Thing with two tones of plastic on his legs, head and torso and Jesus, that looks rough.
>>11026581I already have the BAF and the ToyBiz one ...but I do love Man-Thing...
>>11026542Me tooAnd maybe some good Xena figuresWait this is the GI Joe thread
>>11026636Yeah man thing is pretty cool, i like those plant men in general. The old airboy comic had a version, the heap i think its called.
>>11026647The Heap I'm thinking of was from Spawn and since it was a garbage monster the toy had like a tiny piece of real newspaper in it that I doubt has survived the years at all
>>11026652beautiful
>>11026636Hell yeah man, swamp dudes are always cool. I need a McFarlane classic Swamp Thing with either the Bissette/Totleben look or the Berni Wrightson look.
You monster lovers are making me want a Classified Bio-Viper...
>>11026692bio viper was so cool. I hope they have his original smell
Nemesis enforcer test shots
>>11026878the what
>>11026884https://youtu.be/RDjS3w2zuWk?t=10
>>11026572>The line started in 2020, and the first year or so, it was kind of slow to get goingThe line was its biggest in 2020 and 2021. It suffered a steep drop afterward, because the Snake Eyes movie bombed and so did the toys.Having 2-4 pegs in stores is bare minimum support, plus seeing them constantly on clearance even today and at stores like Ross isn't a good thing.NEvermind HAsbro themselves aren't really releasing a lot of figures and doing a lot of redecos is pretty bad.The Classified line is basically just a placeholder toyline to prevent other toylines from taking up space until the next GI Joe movie or cartoon or some other media tie-in comes out.
>>11026899who's the baldish chick, she's hot
>>11026907>The Classified line is basically just a placeholder toyline to prevent other toylines from taking up space until the next GI Joe movie or cartoon or some other media tie-in comes out.This is such a weird comment, considering we're in the middle of the year and there's like a dozen new figures (not repaints) announced, a ton of repaints, at 4 vehicles releasing and a haslab coming. The line in fact has way too much shit coming out for a line with no huge media tie-in.
>>11025532>>11025575Same, I don't like his faces and a lot of the designs look too boring. Ironically, I've bought some to use as unnamed goons, but his named characters look just generic like this >>11025721
>>11026929Pythona
>>11026907>The Classified line is basically just a placeholder toyline to prevent other toylines from taking up space until the next GI Joe movie or cartoon or some other media tie-in comes out.That's probably why I've been enjoying this line much. Without them being beholden to push a specific version they can freely mix the Hama, animated, and the toy continuities but yeah when Hasbro tries to launch their cinematic Hasbroverse again it'll be primarily focused around that and then it'll be back to action figures of Roadblock with copy telling us that besides the haevy machin gunner he's also the leader of the Joe team as well as an Arashikage Ninja.
I just now realized these are a reference god I'm stupid
>>11026953Nothing that dude said makes any kind of sense. They're pumping out tons of figures, including repaints to get more characters/toys/vehicles out there. The movie wave was easily the worst Classified had to offer and was dropped almost immediately and the line has only gotten stronger since. They're coming up on their *third* Haslab, the first two being wildly successful. Hell, the very fact he's judging the line's success by it's "presence on shelves" shows he's talking out his ass as it completely ignores the fact that most of this line is sold online. Classified as a line is doing better then anyone ever expected it would do, and it's mainly on the strength of the figures themselves. It's very much got the feel of the 2007 ME line's run away success and hopefully this line lasts as long as the ME stuff did.
This worth 40 bones? I'd hate to steal one of the guns off the air chariot
>>11027134nah
>>11027134I don't think so.But do YOU really want it?
>>11027134Its my preferred roadblock currently but i think he comes in the tigaer patrol set with trip wire. Now im wondering how a bomb sweeper and heavy machine gunner team actually work. If you are clearing a path and this guy cuts loose doesnt that have a negative result?
What time are pre-orders tomorrow?
>>11026953>>11027123>GI Joe stuff exists and is still coming out, that means it's popularGI Joe existing at the Snapships level instead of former GI Joe levels is pretty bad, dude.Previous years there were a few sublines ONTOP of the Classified line, actually carried in mass market (and dollar stores).During one of the lull years between Rise of Cobra and Retaliation, Pursuit of Cobra came out in 2010 and for that year, over 50 figures were released. 50 figures starting in AUGUST of that year. 5 months to release 50 figures. In 2011, about 80 figures were released.AND they had about a dozen pegs for themselves, compared to the 2-4 currently.So currently, the Classified line is basically at the same level literal-whos being tested to see if it's worth stocking by Target, WAlmarts, etc. Absolutely the lowest support a toyline can get.Also>implying Haslab is anything but deaths door products that mass market toylines aren't interesting in buying because they're poor sellersFar cry from the 00s and 10s, when we got multiple vehicles every year. HISSes, Hisses, more HISSES, Skystrikers, VAMP, Mocassins, Deviant mech, Steet Maurauder Mech, Rage tank, AWE Strikers, more VAMPS, Night Raven wannabe, and nevermind the movie years, when even more shit was released. All got mass market retail support, so they were sold in the hundreds of thousands to millions of units. Healthy, popular, toy sales.
>>110271931 PM ETI'm getting a couple troopers and that Cobra Commander
>>11027203I'm going to zero in on Cobra Commander and pray, its going to sell out fast.
>>11027134Never mind, I'm stupid as fuck. I forgot the Action Soldier comes with a 50 cal, I'll just grab him.
>>11027342Yeaah man, it even comes with an interchangeable pistol grip so you can have your v1 Roadblock.
>>11027333>>11027203It's mainline release bro. You don't have to worry.https://youtu.be/CmfCP45c9OY?t=2490
That monster force ,'not hooded cobra commander in red' figure is up for pre order at bbts. I figured why not and got one.
So if the next Joe HL is the Rattler, Wild Weasel is a given but what else and who else do you think they'll throw in to bump up the cost/incentive to buy? Maybe some Cobra pilots like the A.V.A.C and Strato Viper?
>>11027519Oh shit, they look great, but 37 bucks is a bit high man, a couple Red Shadows troopers would be great too.>>11027523WW is a given, yeah, but I think we should guide us by the Dragonfly's goals, one is a co-pilot and the other two are paratroopers; I think for a cool and unique paratrooper they could include the Para-Viper from the 25th Anniversary; it's not an essential figure, they could reuse some pieces here and there and it's a cool add for Cobra, also, he kind of looks like a direct response against NF Ripcord and Crazy Legs. The other trooper could be... Idon't know, maybe an Air-Trooper so they can reuse another jetpack. Either that or an engineer.As for the copilot... Maybe the Strato-Viper could work, since they're kind of generic air forces and I don't think they'll include the AVAC pilot; the Firebat is a small enough vehicle worthy of a general release with a very specialized pilot.
>>11027523That hot brown lady pilot from the animated series. Comes with helmet and alt unhelmeted head.
>>11027613Raven the Strato-Viper... that's a great choice! Quite unique, too, she'd add a lot of value.
>>11027523>>11027550Personally, I'd prefer more of a ground crew set up over para-troopers. They didn't really make sense for the Dragonfly and they make just as little for a Rattler. Para-Viper *would* be a fantastic figure though as they're not a super popular character and they'd be an easy mainline repaint. >>11027613>>11027621I'd be expecting a Baroness in a flight suit, but Strato-Viper Raven would be way cooler. Just getting more Cobra girls out there is great, even if it would be a fairly deep cut reference locked behind a Haslab wall.
Got my two Cobra Troopers and vac-metal Commander. He's already sold-out on BBTS.
>>11027523I like Wild Weasel so much that I'd hate for him to be stuck with a giant Rattler. Make him funskool colors.
>>11027665I'm surprised CC sold out on BBTS, and he's still available on Pulse. Usually these guys sell out on Pulse, and the POs are always available until the figures release on BBTS.
>>11027669I'm pretty sure he'll make it some way or another into general release, he's such a cool character with quite a following. Maybe in a year or two.>>11027672It seems this wave's quantities are all over the place, I just read Cobra Troopers are selling-out too.
FUCK! Trooper colors don't match. Fucking hell Hasbro.
>>11027682They flat-out said they were a brighter blue in the livestream. What, exactly, did you expect?
>>11027682I fail to see a problem
Fudge, i missed cobra commander. Dang. Im sure itll pop back up but he is gone from pulse now.
>>11027682Nice laundry detergent commercial roleplay figures.
>>11027682Blues aside, lets not forget that sculpted in knife on his webgear. He really does belong in the back with the other marvel legends figures
>>11018731>>11018732
>>11027703The one figure that has alluded me since coming back to the line is Rock n Roll
>>11027715Of course he belongsvwith the legends, he is forges bff after all. They became close friends after things between storm and forge ended.
Anywhere else to get cobra commander?
>>11027719He reappears from time to time. Tunnel Rat was the one for me, but finally got him a few weeks ago. Love how small he is, the absolute short king.>>11027703>>11027739He's still up on Amazon/F9677/dp/B0CS4R7B4K?ref_=ast_sto_dp
>>11027739Looks like Amazon still has him up for PO.
>>11027718I really like how this line puts out all those stealth releases we wouldn't get otherwise. Even though one has to double dip to get a complete character.
>>11027740Thanks >>11027741
>>11027746It's kind of shitty from them, but yeah, I'm tempted on their RS troopers
>>11027746>>11027759At least the regular Red Shadow trooper can me made with just one figure
>>11027682>>11027711>>11027715They don't care these loser will buy it.
https://youtu.be/Q6mqSvMUtxg
>>11027134I like him, but the Tiger Force 2pack is the same thing. If you really need one just get that.BTW, Anybody but me like Cobra Island 'Block?
>>11027834Bout damn time
>>11027746I mean if they don't own the rights this is like the easiest way to do it without getting Pitt'd
>>11027719I missed him too, im behind on my joes in general. I dont even have gen hawk yet. >>11027739He was back up on bbts. I got mine after missing out at first.
>>11027746>>11027759I thought it was an either or type deal, are red shadow parts strewn across the line like build a figures? >>11027837He looks generic to me, like a call of duty guy using his name as a callsign.
>>11027883I can see that. I like him because he looks cool and served as a statement of intent with Classified: that this is a cooler, younger, modern GI Joe. A GI Joe line fir the 2020s. Its why its bothered me a little to see them course correct so hard. I find myself liking Mezcos figures more.
>>11027834I love the packages, can't wait for general release Ripcord.>>11027893Same thing man, I like how he has elements from Block's classic backstory yet some modern elements.
Female Crimson Guard when?Airtight (TIGHT) when?
>>11027834Lenny you coward. I guess making him figure 1-45 is the best you could do. LoL.
On the other side of the scale.
>>11027438Is it reversible? I kinda like the underhanded grip from the air chariot version.
>>11021499The dude is a tool. He gets drunk on Stream and talks shit about Hasbro, GI Joe, Emily, etc quite often.
>>11027834What the fuck is that Glenda art?
>>11027834>Confusing Grand Slam for FlashSmall quibble but it matters...
>>11027837>BTW, Anybody but me like Cobra Island 'Block?I like him as Heavy Duty which is who I bought him to use as.
>>11027837>>11028359I named him Broiler myself, after what's written on his rail gun as I full expect them to make a Heavy Duty at some point. He's a solid figure, seeing as he's just a Roadblock repaint, but the head gives him a unique character and it also gives me reason to use that giant railgun he comes with since my HA Roadblock gets the LMG. Incidentally, my v1 Classified Roadblock got reused as Doubleblast since again, he looks nothing like HA Roadblock and is easily made into a different character.
>>11028349It was meant to come with sausage...
>>11027550Huh. I forgot how small the Firebat was, so you're right I can see that being a Pulse exclusive release after a Rattler HasLab. AVAC just has such good aviator pilot design.>>11027613>hot brown lady pilot from the animated series...Go on....
>>11028674Exactly, AVAC pilots are awesome, and Hasbro has a great opportunity to sell us a cool vehicle.>hot brown ladyOh you'll love her.
>>11028674>>hot brown lady pilot from the animated series>...Go on....Here's the episode.https://youtu.be/y6qiVuHyBSw?t=377
>>11028830>turns traitor by the end of the episodeI don't think I'd want a Joe wannabe as a stretch goal for a cobra themed haslab.
So im looking at the valaverse van, its $180+ for van and driver. With an optional $20+ add on for missle launchers? I balked at the vamp price but thankfully hasbro took my money while i was asleep and im glad i have it. But $200+ is really out of control imo, idk maybe im just poor and saying mean stuff but thats a high price tag.
>>11028875I think $150 would've been a more fair price, but it does has over double the capacity of the vamp. Still just looks like a generic suv though.
>>11028332CL isn't much better
>>11028875Gotta be honest: I don't really like Vala's soccer mom SUV.
So I've recently been finding the Super7 reaction joes at discount roughly 50% but with the announcement of the Super7 O ring collection should I go in on the reaction line or wait for the O rings to come out?
>>11028332Well, after Cover Girl and Zarana, you fuckers said you only wanted "gritty, super-serious artwork" for female characters. Don't bitch about that now, own up to it.
>>11028874Nigga, it's a toy. You can have her rejoin Cobra or never leave in the first place. You do realize that once you buy a figure, you can do whatever you want with it, canon be damned.?
>>11029285Can you try harder? Your single point has gotten boring as hell.
Is the Fortnite boat worth it for 25 bucks? I'm tempted on it for my Copperhead.
>>11029406What do you mean..."you fuckers"?
>>11029749It's big But it's a boatThat's all you need to know
>>11028875Hmmm
>>11028886>>11030192Ok, im sorry, i didnt realize just how much larger it was.
>>11030192No matter what they put on top of the SUV, it still looks like a soccer mom, oversized gas guzzler. It's all those curved features.
>>11030258>Mom, I posted about your suv again.
>>11029885Hmmm, interesting... Maybe I'll get it in a few days.
>>11030258Looks like the toyota fj suv.
>>11030192My main problem is that its just kinda boring looking. The Vamp already just looks like a big green block, but it at least has some stuff to break it up a little bit, but the Valaverse vehicle is just a big tan brick. Just makes it look like a big, cheap, plastic toy. Also, the turret looks really out of place on it.
>>11030440The Vamp is a fictional vehicle designed to be as toyetic as possible. The Valaverse car looks like a 1:1 of a modern Range Rover or Jeep. As in a real vehicle. I agree the turret looks tacked on without any regards to how those kind of turrets work in real life hence ruining the realistic aesthetic Vala is going for. An option without the turret would be ideal.
>>11030454The Vanguard comes with a hatch cover, so you can run it without the turret. As for the VAMP, it was largely inspired by the Lamborghini Cheetah prototype.
>>11030490Even a steel hatch such as the kind you'd see on a military vehicle looks out of place. The Vanguard looks too much like a mass production civilian vehicle to allow haphazardly slapping military components onto the chassis. The reason Hasbro picked the Cheetah prototype as base for their military toy car was because how Sci Fi and unconventional it looked lending a more toyetic look. Vala seems to just have taken a conventional Land Rover or Jeep and forced it to look toyetic.
It honestly reminds of something more akin to what you'd see in a Jurassic Park movie. Just repaint it with a jungle motif, and put some of those Amber Collection JP figures in it, and it might be kinda cool.It just looks too luxury to be driving a bunch of soldiers into a fight.
Thing is, the Vanguard is based on the real life civilian mid-size on-road SUV Rezvani Tank, but God knows why they softened it up.Real life Tank has a way more aggressive rear, and even with that, it's actually way smaller than the Vanguard. I think it's a combination of proportions, sculpt and the fact that it's not even an mv that makes it look weird with military toys and gives that "mom suv" feeling.
>>11030901NEW THREAD>>11030901NEW THREAD
>>11030903Yeah, i saw what happened last thread, two bots argued with each other for three days. Im staying here.
>>11030192>>11030258>>11030440It does look like a pretty bland vehicle. The Vamp screams classic GI Joe style and looks like a military vehicle with a touch of fantasy. The Vala car looks like a civilian SUV with a military turret bolted on top. I'm impressed that they were able to produce a vehicle that big but I wish it had more of a boxy military look to it with squared off corners, hard angles and rivets. The fact that the turret has rivets and the body doesn't gives it a weird aftermarket modification look, almost like it was a kitbash.
