This thing for $200 what is going on with the toy industry? and Revoltech asking $100 and more for their shit, Legends reaching $60, Mcfarlanes for $40, Mafex releases, the bubble will finally burst? This shit isn't a hobby anymore is a resale system where you buy expensive shit so you can sell it for even higher prices a few months later, looking at the Mafex X-Men collection or HasLabs or even Warbird, things weren't like that a few years ago, now I'm sure that if they released the HasLab Ghost Rider again for $400 it would fund nowadays with 90% of the buyers being scalpers and 100% of the collectors willing to pay even more like good paypigs, for how vomiting this hobby has become they can ask whatever they want, it's over
>>11204091womp womp
>>11204105>gets raped>says thanksZoomers need to be lynched
>>11204110I understand basic capitalistic models, kiddo. You're not special or unique, and you're never going to be known for anything. No one really cares about your point; we just want endless drama bait. Would it make you feel better if I hit you with a "Ok boomer" since your too old to understand "bing bing wahooo, line must only go up"
>>11204091If money is such an issue form you, you probably shouldn't be participating in this hobby.
>>11204122Yeah, there is a ball joint.
Price wouldn't be an issue if the product wasn't so insultingly shit. Like Jada straight up MOGS legend figures for around the same price and yet the legend shills still eat it up because there is no real competition for marvel figs. You can thank the autist for shitty overpriced figures.
>>11204122ball joint that could barely move kinda like that first appearance spidey fig they did a while back
>>11204091Way I understand it is because he's scaled to be in line with other marvel legends figures, and sadly everything, literally EVERYTHING is going up price wise.I'm a transformers collector and let me tell you I'm starting to make hard choices, I feel sporry for future generations provided they don't go all in on digital only skibabdi bullshit but hopefully by then I'll be like my hero
>>11204091Inflation, dumbass.
>>11204128Yeah, I buy toys of characters I care about, not toys of characters I don't even know just because the toy is marginally better than a Marvel Legend. Deal with it boy.
>>11204149just because you have low standards doesn't mean everyone else does.
>>11204146kys Nerdy
>>11204146You realize toys are made with huge profit margins for the manufacturer and the inflation is just them refusing to cut into their profits at all right?
>>11204091>Revoltech asking $100 and more for their shitWhat's wrong with that? They are imports from Japan and have alot of separate parts that need to be assembled and painted. They also arnt made in giant batches like Marvel legends so the orders are more expensive. (Fewer toys in a order = more expensive) we don't even know if they do Revoltech's with one mold or not. Those metal molds are really expensive so companies try to cram in as many parts as possible to lower cost. I'm guessing the price for this guy comes from probably needed multiple molds to get all the large parts and joints to be molded in the correct color so they don't need to be painted which ruins joints and drives cost up even more. Paint is also a large factor. This Sentinel looks like it has a pretty good amount of paint for such a large figure so it's probably decently expensive to get done. Idk if all of this justify it being 200$ but I atleast see why Revos are the price they are.
>>11204130>ball joint that could barely move
kek poor fags smoldering this morning
>>11204420So?
>>11204432Western companies proved Japanese tier toys don't need to cost even 50% more than budget children toys.So stuff like this was $30, which is basically a Figuarts clone, when Marvel Legends were $20 and Figuarts were going for ~$60Japanese collector stuff only costs as much as it does because they're been fucking collectors up the ass ever since they were paying $100 for anime VHS tapes that had 2 episodes on them in the 80s.
>>11204091Should be like $11.97 at K-mart.Thanks for inflation, supply chains, covid, bank bailouts.
>>11204432>They are imports from Japan and have alot of separate parts that need to be assembled and painted.easily debunked when the knockoffs who have the same painted parts sell for $25, look at CT Anti Venom, the production is cheap as fuck, they're charging you $120 due to the license and design and being a bunch of scumbags, Revos used to cost $50
>>11204091I'll only pay for a MvC Sentinel. How did capcom get away with these redesigns?
>>11204174>Buying toys you're interested in instead of toys you aren't interested in means you have low standardsI may have low standards, but at least I don't have a low IQ.
>>11204482That's because the factories are just stealing molds already created. Molds are really expensive. These factories also don't charge themselves for labor when they make this shit. Revos use to cost 50 but they also started getting more parts and probably requitlre multiple molds. Disney could also be charging more for licenses. I'm not to knowledgeable about Disney's licensing fees though. Wouldn't be surpised if they bumped the price up a bunch. They did go into some hefty debt buying Fox and Lucas Films.
I for one welcome our Chinese action figure making overlords.
>>11204563I’m a fan of many brands including marvel, but legends are the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to toys so I refuse to buy. An actual retard would buy garbage because of brand name only. So not only do you have low standards, you indeed have a low IQ, dipshit.
>>11204597>150 plus tip please!>Raughs up blood from eating plastic rice
>>11204601nta but it's really about priorities I think. Do you want to spend a bunch on an action figure or like, something else.
>>11204575>That's because the factories are just stealing molds already created. Molds are really expensive.at this point just suck my cock, Hasbro creates new molds for C-listers that nobody cares about that rot at Ollie's for $10, this "molds are expensive" BS is pathetic if they're willing to make new molds and parts for shit that nobody wants or cares about
>>11204637You do know how often reuse is a thing right?
These threads never get any real good traction because people here are proud to spend more money to prove to anons they aren't poor, and think inflation is a magic explanation to every price increase.In individual threads these same people bitch about prices but collectively don't want to sound like they're icky poors.
>>11204485Apparently Marvel was pissed off about it but later relented since all the work had already been doneThey also renamed it a model "COTA-94" to separate it from the shitty skinny one.
>>11204091Should this be on store shelves at $75? Probably, but that's no longer an option due to a number of factors.
>>11204637Hasbro refuses molds all the time because they are so expensive to make. What are you even talking about? You seem really passionate about the topic.
>>11204664>These threads never get any real good traction because people here are proud to spend more money to prove to anons they aren't poor, and think inflation is a magic explanation to every price increase.brainwashed by toy companies, can't imagine a worse fate, maybe being a weeb watching isekais every month, Hasbro whiteknights are some of the lowest shit eaters on the planet
>>11204664These threads never get any real good traction because it's a thread on /toy/ and not some place where bitching will actually change anything. Is this your first echo chamber Mrs Faggot?
>>11204472Figurarts and Figma used to be pretty affordable at one point
>>11204785bitching anywhere doens't change anything, the only option you have is "don't buy", where the message will just be taken as "there's no market for this"
>>11204149What? You'd rather own an inferior Dr. Doom over a superior Deejay?
>>11204884A little bit, if I really liked Dr. Doom. Also, I'm sure there's some Deejay fans out there.
>>11204872Which, let's be honest, no one will do because everyone is addicted to this stuff.
>>11204884Considering I don't really care about Street Fighter, I don't even play it, and I do care about Dr. Doom, yeah, I would. I don't care if the Deejay is marginally better, I'll get the figure of the character I actually like. Why is this so weird to some of you?
>>11204961>Why is this so weird to some of you?nta but I'm guessing it's legit autism. It makes sense when you break it down to the bare minimum hard logic.
>>11204091Make more money broke bitch. I preordered 3.
>>11205194I have a bag of dog shit if you want for $20
>>11204509>if a toyline from a shitty movie sells poorly, it's not because no one wanted shitty designs from a shitty movie, it's because... because...I'm at a lost at your logic train. SHF-tier copies = bankrupt?wut?Let's ignore than DC Direct is still running, thanks to McFarlane knowing they're profitableLet's also ignore that the DCC SHF-tier line was canceled almost 6 years before DC Direct was put on the chopping block by WB.But WB is a penny pinching conglomerate. They have accountants who worked out the math that selling mid-10k units of SHF-clones was profitable for only $9 more than your standard Marvel Legend. Unfortunately, the line sold like shit, because all of DC's movie shit is shit.Sorry, but Japan just likes to fuck their fanboys up the ass if they want any sort of toy better amde than their dog chew toys. Pic related. 4" figures that cost $20, when Hasbro was making better articulated figures with more paint for only $9>>11204482Revoltechs used to cost $24 when they were launched in the mid-00s. They had less articulation than Marvel Legends and were smaller too. Marvel Legends back then cost $8.Japanese companies know their fanboys will pay out the ass for collector shit, hence marking up their prices to Apple levels of greed. Even companies like China are copying Japan, despite having worse QC, like Joytoy.
>>11205251>I'm at a lostIt's never not amusing to see you do this. It's "I'm at a loss" you retard.
>>11204121And then you'll cry when nobody buys your resells and the industry will cry when no one buys their overpriced product and everyone will cry when the line dies.
>>11205243Is it Didney™'s Marvel™'s Dog Shit? If not, no thanks!
>>11204091This shit will just make Hasjew more greedy to the point where they start incorporating it into the main legends line. Have fun paying over $30 for one legends figure before taxes and shipping retards. Lol
>>11204485at this point, where the hell are the third party bootlegs
>>11205264Every now and then, Subjectautist lets his ESL slip and reveals that he or his mother swam the Colorado River to get into California.
>>11205264don't worry, he'll blame it on his phone or that his retarded speech impediment was misinterpreted when using voice to text.
>>11204597>>11204609>>150 plus tip please!>>Raughs up blood from eating plastic riceDon't be dunkin' on muh Pumpin' Princess! Her recycled rice tastes delicious! Circle up coomers!
>>11205251>Revoltechs used to cost $24 when they were launched in the mid-00s. They had less articulation than Marvel Legends and were smaller too. Marvel Legends back then cost $8.you're going too far awayin 2017 Revo Gwen, Wolverine, Venom, etc all went for $50 worldwide, that was the regular price, SH Figuarts too and I mean some of their greatest figures like SQ Harley Quinn she went for $50, not talking about 20 years ago, just like 6 years ago everything was great, suddenly they started to charge $120 for their shit because paypigs like >>11204432 don't care about it because they're too stupid to see the truth and they believe whatever gayass excuse they see on reddit to justify a greedy ass company earning 500% of each release
>>11205194>Make more money broke bitch. I preordered 3.me too, but I did to resell for $350 each because paypigs like you love to waste money on Hasbro garbage so it'll be easy to sell them for twice their price to retards like you that will want more kek
>>11204609>$150 plus tip please!I paid $90. Let me guess, BBTS price? How the fuck does this board have so many retards?Buy your Nipponese toys at the Nipponese toy shop of your choice.Buy your chink toys from the most trustworthy Chinaman you can find.Buy Amerishart toys from Shartmart, Target, Ollie's, Ross, and failing that, BBTS or EE.
>>11205476>you're going too far awayDoes it matter?Point is, Japanese stuff has always been disgustingly expensive because of stupid fanboys who'll stretch their asshole everytime a new toy is announced, to ensure the assfucking goes as smoothly as possible. Shit's been going on since the 80s and won't stop because of these fanboys.And that isn't to say i haven't bought Japanese figures, because sometimes they're the only toy company to do a toy i want, but man, fuck them.pic is another example of a Mattel DCUC-tier toy in the mid-10s, costing more than an ML.
>>112054812018 isn't mid-10s, retard.2700 yen in 2018 works out to roughly $23US according to the mid market exchange rate in November 2018, and a Marvel Legends RRP was $20 at the time.>Japanese stuff has always been disgustingly expensiveHyperbolic much?
>>11205491>calling someone retarded because his definition of mid-10s is different from yours>hyperbolicSure is overly defensive weeaboo trying to nitpick because he has no real argumentAnd yes, $23 > $19.99 and it is disgusting for it to be that much when it's straight out of 2004 that looked outdated in 2002.Just as disgusting as when a $60 figure isn't any better than a $30 figure.But that's Japan for you. They love inflating prices because lol, look at the otaku already bending over and getting the lube as soon as the toy is announced. I mean, look at you, trying to defend Bandai/Kaiyodo/GoodSmile/PlayArt's fucking your infected, prolapsing anus.The worst part is companies from China are trying to imitate Japan with equally as overpriced figures but at half the quality.Pic is another example of something even smaller going for way too much money. Looks like something you'd find in 2005 for $5, except this is more than a decade later and for more than twice the price.If i wasn't lazy, I'd find a dozen modern toys from Bandai's current catalogue for more than the price of a modern ML and still looks as low quality as this.
>>11205521I'm at a lost for for words.
>>11204444>Inflation, dumbass.>it's not inflation>So?
>>11205546It is inflation
>>11204091What is this, are they rereleasing Haslabs?
>>11204664>to prove to anons they aren't poorI bet these anons think they are making an "investment".
>>11205521>calling someone retarded because his definition of mid-10s is different from yoursYes. Mid would be in the middle. 2018 is literally the second last year in the decade. That nearly as far away from the middle as you can go.As for the rest of your blathering which I am not reading, pic related.
$180 isn't that much money. It's clear from how pissy you guys get over $100 that you don't have other hobbies. Most hobbies are a lot more expensive than toy collecting.
>>11205243This makes no sense, as nobody even wants that for free. This sentinel however you want and would accept it if given to you.
>>11205563>resulting in shitty QCThat never happened. You're one of those dumbshits who heard about the TAS figures breaking (that only affected a wave) and thought all of DCD's figures had the same problem. Again, here's a pic of how Japanese companies enjoy gaping otaku asses by charging $15 for 80s level articulation and paint in the mid-10s, when in America you got twice as much articulation and paint for only $10.If you look at other Japanese nerd industries, like DVD/BD anime, they do the same shit. Saying the quality is better/worse is just cope because you can't believe your asshole is so sore for no reason other than they like fucking your ass.>>11205567Missing the point. Just because i can afford to buy a house or car doesn't mean I won't balk at paying $30 for usb-c cable. IT's ridiculous for it to cost that much when a $8 one is just as good and does the same shit. Same applies with toys, especially when pic related looks so bad even if it was the 1990s. The toy industry has a ton of competitors making the same shit, hence /toy/'s most popular lines being budget children toys and most people don't see a reason to pay $2-5x more when the competition doesn't even offer 1.2x better features. The fact other people even make comparisons about which looks better just shows how nearly identical they really are.If they were even 2x better (muchless 3-5x to reflect the price), there'd be no arguments.>>11205566>more dumb nitpicking to move argument away from being a dumb weeaboo who spreads his assok.
>>11205567It's not decent to me because I know nothing about the franchise. I'm not going to buy something just because it looks cool. That's how you wind up with far too much crap.
>>11205579I'm sorry but I can't take anything you seriously when you can't even say commonly used phrases correctly. It's like watching something mimic with it thinks normal people behave like.
>>11205567It's Subjectanon. He is poor. He is also retarded and doesn't realise that the cost of things is often determined by economies of scale, and that Japan are only really producing most of their stuff for a domestic population that is slightly more than a third of the US population, while Hasbro etc produce things for a global market. He also ignores how small the action figure collecting community is in Japan compared to the statue and gunpla market and fails to take that into account. He also ignores American independent shit like Loose Collector costing as much as a Figma for less than ML levels of quality or engineering, which again has an inflated price due to being produced in such low numbers.If licking windows was an Olympic sport, he would have a dozen gold medals.
>>11205575It's more of a diss on this pay piggy's taste. If they are willing to buy 3 of this shitty looking product, I thought why wouldn't they want a bag of dog shit for only $20?
>>11205586>cognitive dissonance and non-arguments because his anus is still oozing and peeling from when his last import went in drycope.If Hasbro, Mattel, McFarlane, Jada, Jazwares, Spinmasters, and Jakks, were charging as much as Japanese companies did, every thread on /toy/ would be like OP.Look at this chintzy crap that's going for $30. Can you imagine if every single ML or MCFarlane figure were $30? /toy/ would be raging and the toy industry would be in jeopardy. But for Japan? It's Sunday and they're going to walk to their corner drug store for more lube.The worst thing about this price is that Japanese consumers are actually worse off than Americans and Europoors, so to them, it's not actually "$30", but the equivalent of $46 (not even taking into account the fact their jobs pay less).Nevermind this is the equivalent of a Spinmasters or Jakks Pacific figure in terms of quality. That's stuff no one actually likes to talk about on /toy/, because they're so shit. The collector shit is the actual butt rape prices.forgot my pic >>11205590I'm not ignoring economies of scale, because a lot Japanese collector lines (SHF, Playarts, Figma, etc) have official distribution in the US too and they still require you to get fucked in the ass.. Just shows how ignorant you are and can only come up with dumbshit excuses.
>>11205607>he thinks that just because they also have international distribution that SHF, Figma and PAK have production runs as large as MLMy sides are in orbit.
>>11205618I like how you're basically admitting MLs/BS/etc are able to look as nice as Japanese collector toys.And it'd be nuts to say they aren't.Yes, American companies do sell way more, hence having all the features collectors like.Still, my point was that collector toys in the US can be complete copycats of Japanese lines and DCC/WB doesn't have international reach. Like Mcfarlane, they barely even get stuff to europoors. Whereas most Japanese lines have no problem getting stuff in the US. So there's no excuses as to why Japanese lines require you to spread your ass for them.Speaking of which, i bet most of you are from mudhut countries, so you never pay American prices. For people not living in Japan or America, you're paying nearly the same price for an ML as a Mafex. You never get the benefit of enjoying super cheap prices for budget children toys that are nearly as good (or sometimes better) as toys that cost 3-5x more.>>11205626>audiophile fallacy and other dumb copeoofAlso, remember when you could buy Figmas on clearance for $20 at Targets? or Figuarts/RDs for $25-35 at TRUs? Obviously, those lines failed, because people didn't think they were worth it.Even popular stuff aimed specifically at Americans, like TMNT went nowhere. Yet all the western brands have grown and other companies keep being added to the list of TMNT action figure licensors.(ib4 anyone mentions that Japan does have cheap children toys that are well made and are pretty cheap, but they seem to purposely be dumbed down. Costs to make them better aren't $20 more, hence my belief the more expensive ones i've posted are purposely inflated like collector shit)
>>11205637I'm still at a lost for words right now...
>>11205251Thing is though Subby, those designs are fairly popular. Hell Todd is even redoing them again right now, Mafex redid them recently too. So, no it wasn't because people didn't want to buy toys of Snyderverse Batman and Superman, it was because that DC Direct's SHF knockoffs just weren't that good. I got to handle one in person, I was friends with the owner of my LCS, and no, it was not even close to SHF quality, and that's not saying much, SHF quality isn't amazing by any means, but it was certainly better than that crap.
>>11205555It is price gouging, not due to a massive increase on labor costs and materials.
>>11205637>I like how you're basically admitting MLs/BS/etc are able to look as nice as Japanese collector toysI didn't say that at all. 90% of Hasbro female figures look like trannies. Hasbro is aimed at the lowest common denominator poorfags that shop at Walmart.>DCC/WB doesn't have international reach. One of the world's largest media companies merchandising wing doesn't have international reach? Do you know how popular Batman toys are all over the planet? I know I've called you retarded a few times already, but at this point, I am certain that the coathanger poked your brain out when you mother tried to abort you. Pic related is you. >>11205658I am also at a lost for words.
>>11205682The majority of Americans shop at walmart. That's why it's so big. Are trying to pretend you're Richie Rich?
>>11205599>shitty looking productYou're only calling it shitty for the price. If it was $10 you wouldn't be complaining. That's why your analogy doesn't make any sense.This entire thread isn't about a newly revealed figure looking bad, it's about the price being too high (for you)
>>11205656>needs to lie to have an argumentthank you for confirming you're butthurt, not just from japanese companies gaping you, but from me saying the truth.Remember the Revoltech TMNT figures? Woof. Not only did the prices turn off most collectors, but the engineering was awful. They had some really sweet sculpts though and i don't think anyone has released anything better, which is an oxymoron, huh?BTW, are you even from the US? Because if you aren't, you really don't understand OP's perspective. We're the land of cheap toys and he's worried we won't be anymore. For people not in the US, as mentioned in the last post, you never got your toys for cheap unless they fell out of the back of a truck.>>11205664>those designs are fairly popular.LMAO.Clueless. Everyone of those bombed, hence no one ever expanded on character selection.McFarlane is only doing them because he's seen success from the Batman movies figures and thinks he can do the same shit with Superman. Without a doubt, they'll be found at Ross like the Blue Beetle, Black Adam, and Flash movie shit.I mean, fucking LOL, can you even remember that the synder movies were all shat on and considered box office disappointments? You might as well be telling me the Star War sequels are popular with fans too.Again, if something did sell, like the western TMNT toylines, they'd have expanded on the line. Or like McFarlane continuing to make stuff from the old batman movies.
Why is there an anon here obsessing over butt sex? Is it his outlet for repressed desires?We're not your therapists.
Subjectanon still crying about Bandai kek
>>11205690The reason the majority of Americans shop at Walmart is because they are poor. This isn't the post WW2 period anymore. The golden years are over. America had its heyday, and has been in decline for decades.And just because you are poor, doesn't mean you can't have dignity. You will save more money at Costco, and the membership fee helps filter out all the meth heads, Fentanyl Floyds, and third world wetbacks like Subby. Then you can spend the money you save on nice looking toys instead of Marvel trannies and Star Wars pajeetas.
Demand is too high for toys due to all the lunatic collectors who would pay double MSRP for something that costs less than half MSRP to make. Any noise companies make about cost issues are due to them not getting the same level of rapacious profits they are used to.
>>11205730>dignity>costcolmao what the fuck, why would dignity be paying a membership to buy slop in bulk? The only real boon places like costco have are nonperishables that would be worth buying in bulk and occasional deals, but you shouldn't do your grocery shopping there. Mostly high sodium, frozen junk and crap like that.I know they sell produce too but the value is almost never signifigant.You get more value getting produce at a farmers market and using it through the week, and buy meat as needed. And while Wal-mart isn't the best quality, in a lot of areas the prices are competitive enough on the fresh food as to be worth it for most people.
>>11205682>>11205730I am not surprised the anons who are butthurt from being told that Japanese collector companies rape collectors in the ass by inflating their prices are foreigners.I know education is bad in third world countries, but i didn't think it was that bad.You shouldn't be so quick to shit on America, since America is why toys are still as cheap as they are. If companies like Hasbro are struggling to keep prices low, that means smaller companies like going to be hit twice as hard. This is why imports are already at $100 or near that price. Maybe you're not as materialistic as OP, so you can be fine buying half as many toys as you used to if prices go up to $130 for a 5.8" Figma or $100 for a Mafex.Outside of the toy industry, everyone is basically reliant on America's influence and economy. If it falters even one bit, it spells doom for entire industries and some countries.Maybe in 30-40 years someone will be able to reach America's level and it wouldn't spell immediate doom for billions if America falters, but until then, pray for the good health of Americans.
>>11205695The price is high, not unaffordable. Clearly there is an upcharge for such a basic product. I don’t like being someone’s paypig, I don’t like being ripped off (like most collectors). The mindless drones will eat this figure up unfortunately, giving hasbro no real reason to improve on future products while raising the prices even higher. This has already been proven with their most recent releases, re-release of old bodies with no upgrade to articulation or body proportions, but with a much higher price tag.I bring up the bag of shit because it seems these retards will pay for anything if it is within the branding. If the bag was decorated with art of marvel heroes and came with a BAF part, they would buy it.
>>11205773Why do people talk about America like its some magic talisman rather than a superpower. How is it keeping the price of toys low? With magic? Explain the economic mechanism? By consuming toys in large quantities? Then all you need is more consumers elsewhere.
>>11205783>I don’t like being ripped off (like most collectors).That's what it means to be a collector. MSRP is always higher than the cost to manufacture. You're always being ripped off for profit.
>>11205789I know I won’t be paying for figures at cost the company needs to make profit, but hasbro legends in particular seems to be gouging their consumers whether they are aware of it or not.
>>11205786No one wants to write a thesis paper to explain it.You should have paid attention in your economics class in HS, if not attended college.For a simple tl;dr: demand in like 20 subcategories. Demand by consomers. Demand for resources. Demand for production. Demand for capital. Demand for workers. Demand for shipping. etc etc etcIt's a huge fucking list that all requires explanation and there's shit in addition to "demand" that is also important, but requires even more explanation.And you can't create more consumers out of nowhere. You need ~10 years to grow that AND hope for the best.
With inflation, this + 8 figures would be $114. Toy Biz had a bonus not needing to pay license fees but that's still almost half the cost of what Hasbro's charging, with other figures taken into account.It's also about 6 inches smaller than Hasbro, which is significant, but hasbro's has almost minimal paint apps.What am I getting at? I'm not entirely sure myself. I can both see why the price is what it is, but also think it's a bad deal overall.
>>11205821China has grown quite a lot of consumers in the past 10 years
>>11205836Current legends collectors wouldn't like that figure since to them it looks "dirty." They hate realism and paint and want shiny bare plastic happy meal toys.
>>11205842> it looks "dirty."it does though.
>>11205783>The price is high, not unaffordableYeah. That why I've ordered 4. At the end of the day I want it. Unlike the Engine of vengeance which I didn't support and hasbro would have learned a lesson from that.
>>11205773>This is why imports are already at $100 or near that price.You are retarded. You can get Naruto SHFs on BBTS for $35. Other characters with a smaller production run are more expensive. Can you figure out why Naruto is cheaper? Can you grasp economies of scale yet?And that's if you are stupid enough to pay the BBTS import tax. Buying Jap figures from Japan like anyone with a functioning brain does, even Figma and Revos, which have seen price rises drastically, are still below $100US. >Outside of the toy industry, everyone is basically reliant on America's influence and economyYou overestimate your importance. This is why you got merced by a bunch of dune coons. Your influence at the behest of Israel only makes the world a worse place. The sooner Best Korea nukes northern Mexico and your smelly brown hands are turned to ash, the better.
>>11205853That's the intent, because realism demands dirt and grime. Figures that simulate how something would look like in real life would need to look dirty.
>>11205884>Are you suggesting TMNT fans are as a rule cheapskates? They weren't that expensive.at he time, they absolutely were cheapskates, which is why the line ended up being discounted. Same with SHF TMNT, despite being the best classic turtles we've ever gotten, but sold poorly because they seemed like too much to collectors who nitpicked the headsIrony is the Neca stuff will cost the same as those cost a few years ago(and be shittier)
>>11205911Well you say that but it's a much cheaper deal going all in on a twofer when buying domestically, otherwise money is simply being left on the table.
>>11205839Still not up to the point of America.Ask again in another 10 years, but that also means America has another 10 years of growth (or not).Everything is so codependant on shit that you really can't just change things without it being catastrophic. Even a small country like Mexico or Spain fucking up can be pretty bad.Did a quick google and i don't see an updated version for pic. I saw a 2022 report using the same stats, so maybe they haven't done an update for a while. I saw a few projections, but theyre only projections and also done before 2022.If there's any changes to this chart, i doubt there'd be a difference more than in the single digits in the past 10 years. Maybe even shrinkage, given COVID and hard economic times affecting other nations more.>>11205858>cherrypicking the lowest prices to say prices are lower than they really areoof.>ignores all examples of import products that were being sold in the biggest retail stores in the USoooof>You overestimate your importance.biggest oof.BTW, are you the anon who used his implessive third worlder brain power to deduce I was mexican just because you saw hispanic names on that Medieval kickstarter? Just wondering if there's one or two hilariously stupid retards on /toy/.
>>11205893So you are dirty and covered in grime?Checks out
>>11204091Doesn't seem bad at all. The haslab sentinel was $350 vs $175 and only 3 1/2 inches taller. If your figures are $20-25 this is more than ok for something so large. That said, if you're upset at the prices for 1/12 crap perhaps you should consider 1/18.
>>11205949If I was fighting the X-Men I would be
>>11205961>you should consider 1/18.Action figures for ants
>>11206028disgusting
>>11205836The funny thing is it's based on a single particular Sentinel
>>11204609>uses BBTS prices when comparing import pricesare western collectors usually this retarded or
>>11205473>>11205480>>11206347Isn't BBTS a scam like premium DNA?
>>11205930>BTW, are you the anon who used his implessive third worlder brain power to deduce I was mexicanNo, we can tell you are ESL because the grammatical mistakes you make are ones most commonly made by ESLs, such as unnecessary pluralizing words, and getting the tense wrong. Like how you used to complain about "articulations" and said "I'm at a lost for words" in this very thread. You are either Mexican or pajeet. You definitely aren't white.
>>11206670>you made a spelling mistake thus you're an ESLSure is third worlder thinking Americans are perfect, despite spending half the thread hating on America.Mistakes are a diamond dozen, trash picker. Also, are you going to confirm whether you're the retard who thinks because a few hispanic names appeared in the KS, it means everyone who backed it is Mexican?Of course, you're only nitpicking like this and saying "no u" because you want to draw attention away from the fact that Japan has always been overcharging for their collector stuff since the they noticed otaku will take it up the ass to have something made for them.America has always been more fair with their pricing, actually giving you the most value for your money. Most countries want to imitate America because of their success, even China... but since they still hold their communistic basics, they made a ton of bad decisions and can't even go to war to take back what they keep pretending is rightfully theirs, because all their investments in other countries would go bad and their make believe economy would instantly crash, causing civil strifeIn pic, you can instantly recognize the imports because of how wonky their proportions are and how poor the sculpt is on the Figuart. The most expensive are the worst looking ones too. Whereas the budget children's toy is the most acccurate and still very poseable, that can do 100% of the stuff you see in the movies.$20 > $25 >>> $60 > $65It's no wonder Bandai pulled waaaaay back on their planned Star Wars line, because STar Wars collectors didn't see the value in their overpriced figures. Kaiyodo plain stopped after a point and never looked back, because no one wanted their shit.
>>11206714>Mistakes are a diamond dozenIs that what your mother told you when you asked her why she tried to abort you?
>>11206714>Mistakes are a diamond dozenLmao. The phrase is "a dime, a dozen" you ESL retard.
>>11206670I don't know if he's necessarily ESL. The mistakes he makes are more like a small child mishearing an adult say an idiom and repeating it. Think about the examples from this very thread; "I'm at a lost", "no nothing", "diamond dozen". Like he tenuously grasps the meaning of the idiom, but says the idiom wrong. I don't know if he does it on purpose because he thinks he's being cheeky, or if he's just genuinely stupid, either way, it doesn't really come off as ESL behavior, more like developmental disorder behavior.
>>11204509>DCC Bootleguarts(A) they were official releases, from WB Consumer Products, the parent company of DC Direct/DC Essentials/DC Collectibles.>You mean the line that sucked so hard it didn't even last two releases (B) the DC Collectibles and DC Essentials line only ended because those lines themselves ended, it's like saying McDonald's discontinued McFlurries or McRibs - meaningless and stupid>the company that made it went under?(c) again, DC still exists and Warner Consumer Products still exists - all they did, post the ATT/Warner Media merger, was stop doing it in house AND outsourcing some of it to Mattel and others, BUT instead outsourced ALL toys to McFarlane and others. McFarlane still gets to use the DC Direct branding and could, if they wanted, use DC Collectibles or DC Essentials or anything else as well.
Just saw the series of familiar subby pics so took a quick glance. I am amazed he still goes on and on with the same materials some more than a decade old? TLDR but some of his points I never understand...On about price gauging otakus, but he post toys that are aimed towards children. So the kids or their normie parents buy those, not otakus as targets.Things fail because the figure was shit or too expensive? Nothing to do with oh I don't know, the IP sucks? Like SW having zero impact on China for example. You look at top grossing movies of Japan and the first Superhero movie is at 95th place or something and it was 2002 Spider-Man. Oh American IPs are done poorly or perform poorly in Japan but it's all the toy maker's fault?Distribution numbers clearly affects the prices. Clearly. So small target group like the otaku obviously isn't mass produced like a ML, or even the kids toys there, there aren't as many kids! Famously! And even when a Japanese toy has some US distribution, that's still "some" extra, not like in the same level as the Hasbro figures. Maybe the modern 3, 4000 yen SHFiguarts get to that number, you know, made by the biggest Japanese toy company using the biggest IPs' main characters. Only then a better quality figure is close to price to the American market's standards? Yeah how dare all those other smaller companies not do the same thing with less popular characters. Anyways, I think the reasoning for the prices are clear cut. I don't care if subby went into details somewhere answering these not reading and tracking all of these.
>>11206765gouging I mean.
>>11206763>Ignoring being called an ESL retard to reiterate a point you made two days agoYou scared subby?
>>11206756Oh, he's definitely got a developmental delay disorder, but it's not just that. He used to constantly complain about "articulations" on certain figs, and he would keep making that mistake even after being corrected. That was when I started to think he is probably ESL.His hyperpatriotism reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons when Apu is trying to avoid being deported and speaks like an American. Even full blown patriots on /pol/ don't sound as forced as he does. It really comes off as a refugee that is grateful for his life in America.
>>11206765>i can't believe someone keeps saying 2+2=4 Yeah, i know it's hard to believe what was true yesterday is still true today. Hence Japanese collector companies still gouging their customers.It's funny you bring up IPs failing, yet some retards tried to say that the Man of Steel toys failed only because DCD sucked, yet ignores the movie was considered a disappointment, badly reviewed, and all toylines about it dropped fast.At the same time, TMNT licenses have been a massive success for NECA, Playmates, Loyal Subjects, and a couple of others, yet bombed hard for Kaiyodo and Bandai, despite being picked up major retailers in the US. Even NECA couldn't get that level of support until years later. Same thing with other western properties like Star Wars, WWF, and Harry Potter. And despite big support in the US, their prices were actually higher than toylines like DBZ... which also had and stilll has major retail support in the US. So like the other third worlders, your'e revealing you're not American. Or maybe just a loser NEET who's never left his home? You don't sound retarded, but you're massively ignorant.I mean, i get it, foreigners just don't understand what it's like to pay so little for action figures that are almost as good (and sometimes better) as Japanese collector lines that cost 2-5x more. American companies just have higher standards overall.pic is a $10 American budget actoin figure for kids vs a $16 premium Japanese action figure for kids>>11206763You're talking to a 3rd worlder, who doesn't even understand the diamond dozen/doggy dog world memes, and you expect them to understand how businesses work? They're not educated and are basically trolling this thread right now because they're upset someone told them that toy companies aren't supposed to rape your ass.It's shocking how fanboys are so quick to defend rape. IT's almost an oxymoron that they'er so upset over me, despite being so butthurt. Maybe I don't butthurt them enough.
>>11206804>diamond dozen/doggy dog world memes,I swear to God you're doing it on purpose. It's "dog eat dog world" and a diamond dozen refers to diamonds being used in the making of diamond drillbits, look it up. You're doing literally the same thing I would do when I was 6.
>>11206804>people don't get my 2007 Reddit memes that I use to prove I'm an oldfagAll it proves is that you do have a developmental delay.Now explain to the class why you used to pluralize "articulation" like you were an ESL...
>>11206804>posting 12 year old toys as a gotcha embarrassing
The funniest thing is this guy isn't even American himself. The entire thread is a LARP.
>no nothing>I'm at a lost>Diamond dozen>Doggy Dog WorldYou literally can't even make this shit up.
Love it when weeaboos can't defend bending over for Japanese companies gauging their customers and can only attack me by saying I'm a retarded third worlder like themselves.Pic of how a Chinese company wanted to imitate Japan by raping their customers, but had to halve their prices, because westerners aren't that happy in getting ass raped. Lots of Joytoy's figures were found on clearance for over a year thanks to fans rejecting their prices.Of course, China isn't even half the quality as Japanese lines, so their figures are brittle and use lower end paints.
warhammer products have literally always raped their consumers you would know this if you knew literally anything about games workshop subby
>>11206855I'm sorry, but when you make so many mistakes like >>11206847 I can't take you seriously.
>>11206855>can only attack me by saying I'm a retarded third worlder like themselvesBut you aren't like me. I'm white.
>>11206881other anon hereWH40K JoyToy stuff looks good but I prefer bigger figures. McFart figures scale well with 1/12 stuff I have (I mean only Space Marines figures, Genestealers and Necrons, the rest of his toyline is questionable scalewise)
>>11206897I don't lurk 40K general, sad to hear you anons have "general schizo". Many such cases.
>>11206756>>11206776>developmental disorderDefinitely something with a name. I really like to know what it's called, because otherwise a normal person can't keep coming back saying the same shit getting corrections and countered by dozens of people every time and don't get bothered because of the mentality "they must be all wrong because I'm always right". What is that? Funny thing is I know some of his crap he picks up from anons telling him he's wrong or outdated. I taught him about the existence of RKF for sure, all he had was stupid Disk Wars before then. But he takes that and warps the little facts he knows for his weird narrative. Which are mostly pretty much apples and oranges type of comparisons. Now RKF is his one of regulars to this day like it's some kind of trophy. I don't even remember what that was about. I'm sure most are like that and not firsthand experience. Some kind of extreme selective memory where anything negative is forgotten. When anons stop talking about the toys he takes it as a victory, even though what needed to be said were said and simply stopped because it is like talking to a wall. Personal attacks are taken as "they can't disprove me" and the cycle starts all over.
>>11206993>"they must be all wrong because I'm always right"That's definitely some kind of narcissism.
>>11204472No matter how many times you shill DCC's dead lines, it doesn't change the fact they were shit even at $30. Same goes for DC Icons, hence why it failed as a line. Just like how you're a failure at life too, you sad sack of shit.
>>11205264>>11205400Fucking kek. I remember when he used to genuinely believe that "delusionment" was a real word.
One thing is clear: we need more threads like this to act as containment for Subjectautist so he can keep his stupidity in one place while putting his retardation on full display. Fucker just can't resist coming back for more even when he's beaten down, like a battered wife.
>>11207028I don't know how he keeps coming back. If I knew an entire community genuinely thought I was retarded and tried to laugh me out of the room any time I posted, I'd probably try going somewhere that I felt welcome. Is it a complete lack of shame and self awareness, or is it because he has nowhere else left?
>>11207033Probably no self awareness. He thinks people are laughing with him, not at him.
>>11207033All of the above. Since he has nowhere else to go it's clear that he also craves the attention, especially when he's previously acted proud about being hit on by gay men, obviously not realizing how it makes him sound like a faggot.
>>11204091You can easily course correct this but it has to be done at an industry level by first getting rid of all DEI/ESG. The amount of money hemorrhaged by Marvel/Hasbro by stuff like the Eternals and Dr Strange MoM, the TV shows full of DEI civilians sitting on the shelf is mind-blowing. Millions of figures nobody will buy from series nobody is gushing over. You can't find Deadpool Wolverine but you sure as hell can find American Chavez and Agent Wu or We Wuz Kangz on the pegs at Walmart for $24 AND Ollie's for $9.99. You can't recoup losses like that without pushing prices through the roof and expecting collectors to pick up the bill. Do I want to pay $25 for another Brother Voodoo or Moon Knight to complete my Blackheart BAF when they were $14 a few years ago? No, but someone has to pay for the failed ESG choices and hires within Marvel/Disney/Hasbro. You want cheaper figures you get rid of DEI and you lower gas/oil/transportation prices. Everything else takes care of itself. I only mention oil prices because everything has gone up in price because of how much it costs to power the boats, planes, and trucks that bring us our products including action figures. ESG/DEI has more weight than transportation prices right now, that's how bad it's gotten.
Ooof, the third worlders started turning the thread into a butthurt support group. >>11207070None of that mattersCOVID fucked up the supply chain and prices never went back down, and since stockholders demand that revenue/profits always go up, that means any new bump in the road will add up costs. They're not absorbing hits like they used to.From 2014-2021, MLs were at $19.99 despite costs increasing. Not since the 90s did we not see such a length of time of no price increases. In the collectors realm, we saw companies like NECA, McFarlane, Kaiyodoi, Good Smile, etc increase their prices for every bump. And that's actually normal, since they're not large companies and can't absorb hiccups.Only way to drive prices down is by not buying new shit. Given how the butthurt support group rallies around defending toy companies overcharging them, that's not going to happen.What's going to happen is that fans will silently slink away, as they slowly can no longer afford to buy new toys and their interest in toys will wane. Toy companies will produce fewer toys, which we've been seeing for the past 4 years now, and prices will still increase, to make up for that losses in buyers. So toy companies revenue may increase or just hold steady, but they'll definintely see the market shrinking. What their long term plan to turn things around is, who knows.
>>11204113Your dad thinks you are a disappointment and your mom is a coal burner. Go back to dressing up like a little girl, faggot, and remember to bark for your master.
>>11207168Supply chain issues are done, that was a tiny bump in the MASSIVE Blackrock/Vanguard stock market push for DEI in manufacturing, all industry. Is there an issue with getting natural gas to cracking plants to make action figure plastic? Are shipping companies somehow held back through covid regulations and no new figures are appearing on the shelves? No. All those issues ended years ago. What we have now is an administration that is pushing equity and diversity into every manufacturing company because they are joined with Larry Fink of BlackRock manipulating the stock market to basically force DEI initiatives. What you get are employees lacking any sort of skill and are hired solely to check a box on race and gender. So now not only are the employees lacking in skill but the decisions they make are harming the company. From a design and manufacturing standpoint the decisions are costing every industry hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. But the CEOs of these companies are still getting their kickback from Black Rock while quality and production suffer along with prices doubling to recoup the losses. Design teams are feeling the bite as well as more and more unqualified de hires are inserted lowering standards. There's no excuses anymore. No supply chain problems, no foreign wars or Russian agent interventions. It's all on the backs of companies to wake up and stop the dei insanity before more jobs are lost and more product sits unsold on the shelves. Of course we can say no we're not going to buy anything. We can tell everybody things are too expensive and we will not pay those prices. But the CEOs of these giant corporations still get paid by this huge equity firm run by a little Jewish guy who thinks it's cool to blow money and watch people suffer because of it.
>>11206351What collector site isn't a scam really? Even amazon is scamming customers these days with algorithmic pricing.
>>11207511>algorithmic pricingSo if you just bought cheaper things wouldn't it lower?
>>11207528The prices are the same for everyone, not customized to you, the algorithms just adjust up the prices for things that are seeing a lot of demand, making figures people actually want abnormally expensive.
>>11207341>Supply chain issues are donepoint is that prices never went down after supply issues were over. So any problems we've gotten later are going to add to already high prices.The DEI shit you're talking about is the bump in the road, which is magnified by COVID-era inflation and cost increases. And yes, it's a bump in the road, because it's nothing but a stupid fad that we always get over. IT's no worse than the parental groups from the 80s and then all the stupid educational shit from the 90s and 00s.If anything, fads like Funko trash hit us worse. See also the hipstershit fad from the late 00s, like pic related. Unlike the Star Wars sequels, trash like this affected multiple properties, all stores tried to jump on the hype train, and we're still seeing the ramifications from toy stores switching their entire business model to carry this shit. They'll eventually change, if they don't go out of business...Whereas the early 20s cost increases is the NEW normal and there's no going back.
>>11205579>That never happened.I don't see you proving it, fatso
>>11207168>to make up for that losses in buyersThere it is. Pluralizing words that don't need to be pluralized.You really are an ESL.
>>11207605The prices aren't being adjusted for each person, that would break several FTC and other laws, at least in the USA (and it's probably far more severe in the EU).However, WHAT you are SHOWN and what you are told is available, unless you want to spend the time digging and making sure, which most lazy sods won't waste time doing, IS definitely customized to you. So maybe they aren't offering you the best price on say Toy A, that is available, not necessarily that they are jacking up the prices specifically to you.
>>11207813Well I think most dedicated collectors know what they want from manufacturer product reveals and search specifically for it or use direct links to it.
>>11207776>ESL who is proud of his third worlder english courses he spent 10 seashells for every week, because he thinks he blends in with American message boards with his "perfect" English>sticks out like a sore thumb to Americans because only ESLs give a shit about 1800s English rules that wanted to be more like the stubborn French languageDo you even have anything to say about toys? Because it sounds like you want to avoid acknowledging the fact that Japanese collector lines fuck their collectors up the ass and you're proof that you need to defend how wide they gape your asshole.What's the excuse for this toy being almost twice as expensive as an ML, despite having less articulation and way more simplistic paint? This toy isn't even 3x better than the candy toys that cost 3x less.Japan is already at the point that OP fears and it's no wonder that most people who import regularly sell off their figures, because otherwise they couldn't afford this hobby.
>>11204128This is where I'm at, basically.I don't mind going all in on figures, because when I do it's usually something I'm already hyped up about. What aggravates me is when I get it and it's a piece of shit that had no QC. Hasbro burned me twice with the ZAP megazord and fine. Fuck me. SHould have known with hasbro.But even my jap figures are coming in with misaligned mouths. The fuck.
>>11207900You seem really triggered by anons calling you an ESL. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."That's from Hamlet. I don't think they teach Shakespeare at Boyle Heights Continuation High School, Jose, so I thought I would explain it to you.>almost twice as expensive as an MLApparently their math curriculum isn't very good either.Let's discuss toys then. Is it true that you found a way to insert a fleshlight into your Rancor?
>>11204472Western toys are shit other than Jada. Jada is the cheapest and the best sculpted and engineered by a long mile. Japanese toys are overpriced but you absolutely can wait for a discount and all of the sudden youll only be paying 10 bucks more for an import that is just lightyears superior to western slop in every regard. Western figures are so fucking overpriced other than Jada. Such a shit industry that I hope implodes so more passionate Jada like companies can take their place.
>>11205521In Australia I literally need to pay 60 bucks for a shitty black series with 1 accessory and no extra hands + 20 shipping if I cant find it in stores when I can preorder a new figuarts or figma for 70 bucks and split the 20 dollar international shipping in half by ordering two figures at once.When you arent American and thus need to import both western toys and Asian toys, the price difference really isnt there especially considering how astronomically superior Asian toys are to Western toys. China also has plenty of cheap 20 dollar range lower quality toys you can buy that nonetheless still blow any western toy out of the water. Western toys are shit and overpriced for what they are and OP is right you may as well spend the 10% extra to get a far superior asian import.
>>11207824>dedicated collectors kI don't disagree you with - not even just dedicated collectors, but anyone who cares. I'm needing replacement cutting blocks and shaver foils for my Braun electric razor and stuck having to get KO parts from Crapazom. But the buyer I bought from before apparently no longer exists and Bezo's fucking algorithm is suggesting everything and anything that has nothing to do with my specific brand, so I wasted 30+ minutes and still don't have my replacement blades, which I know they have since Amazon.CA coughs them up, but I can't get that page to load in .COM. Direct links do help, but it's also a hassle. McFarlanes are almost all dead except for BBTS and EE, even if those tell you 'sold out.' I assume other manufacturers are no better (e.g. Jada, NECA, Hasbro, etc.). You shouldn't need direct links for Amazon, the exact description should work BUT DOESN'T.
>>11208030MAFEX Sentinel when?
>>112079004400 yen is $29. How the fuck is that twice as expensive as a ML? You do know that's it's 2024 and any ML other than the shit at Ollie's is $25 now, right? What fucking year are you trapped in?
>>11208176It's a shitty example to begin with, because for slightly more yen you can get the SH Figuarts of Gavv. But that ruins his argument about it being worse than a ML (but kid's toy ver. is more on par really). He cherry picks his examples to force his views so that's why they are such weird ones. Mostly the infrequent occasions Japanese companies decides to give some crap about Western properties which seems to be the greatest crime of all time.
>>11208025Jada is only slightly better than MLs though and their price reflects that.Not even shitting on Jada, just repeating the fact that western toy companies are giving you more value for your money. So i don't understand the criticism for other western lines, when they're all pretty good value for their price, albiet getting too high for our comfort.>>11208030foreign countries are shit that can't produce anything of value, hence their reliance on America and Japan. You view point is worthless because of how fucked over your country is.You're stuck paying $60 for budget children toys because your country wants to protect domestic goods, yet no one produces any domestic goods of value because you guys have no talent and everything is too costly to even produce shit.And where are all the European action figure companies? Nowhere, because they also have worthless policies. Fucking South America has more action figure companies than all of the eastern hemisphere that isn't asia.>>11208176Learn how to read.It's $29 to US consumers who are paying with their mighty American dollar. To Japanese consumers, who are paid in their weak yen, they're paying ¥4400, which is roughly $40 . That is very expensive for them, and is a huge jump from where they were in the 10s (pic related).I've been talking about how Japanese nerd companies fuck over their otaku because they learned they'll stretch their assholes with every new announcement for overpriced goods. They also noticed that nerds abroad will pay that price too, hence exporting their goods at near 1:1 conversion despite their yen being weak for 20 years. Obviously, they've had mixed results, with various lines bombing and losing support from major retailers. So they remain relatively niche, while western collector lines have gained more supportAlso, i like how these figures were 100 yen cheaper from ones that came out a few months later. The Japanese economy is rough as fuck.
>>11208789Are DVDs like massively expensive in Japan?
Funny he shit talks on the latest Kamen Rider Action Figure line, when they're budget S.H. Figuarts and far more superior to the American toys in terms of being action figures. The elbows and knees range are slightly lesser than Figuarts and the black weapons are bad but nothing uncommon to American toys too.>>11208789They're nothing alike, over double the price is appropriate even if the Gavv figures were made then. Pick toys you know about pal.
its 175. Tax + free ship. Pay next year. Whats the problem? Save now.
>>11208862>Whats the problem? Save now goyim!
>>11208789>Jada is only slightly better than MLsYou obviously don't play with your toys because jada figures absolutely MOG in terms of articulation. Steet fighter anatomy is way better too.
Even Rocco the great thinks the sentinel and the haslab are great and he hates everything hasbro.Your edge lordness is done.
>>11208872Go back to /pol/ nobody cares.Preordering Mondo Venom for kicks and I'm not even jewish. Be sad you're poor and you are garbage at negotiating better pay at your job.
>>11208789>Jada and ML are competitors? The guy who runs Jada's megaman and street fighter is a huge fan of ML. You're trying to create a war that there is none.
>>11208923You're trying to be a social media influencer right here trying to tell us there's no value in the sentinel, Edge Lord. Go cry back to your castle. Hasbro did right on this. It was cheaper than Giantman who is about to ship.
>>11208936if only chungusfurry could afford to buy his own toys
>>11208897theres only one rocco in the toy community, and its rocco botte bitches.
>>11208897Rocco is one major faggot. He’s trying to achieve a good relationship with hasjew so he can get early review samples.
>>11208789>It's $29 to US consumers who are paying with their mighty American dollar. To Japanese consumers, who are paid in their weak yen, they're paying ¥4400, which is roughly $40 .That's not how it works, because that still means that the Japanese with their weak yen have to pay 3800¥ for a ML. So no matter how you want to twist it, that figure isn't nearly twice as expensive as a ML.Maybe you would understand if you weren't an ESL with brain damage and a ghetto education.
The punchline is that subjectautist hasn't really bought many figures (if at all) in the last couple of years so his talking points are all just hot air and generic claims. Best of all, he always bitches and moans every time this is brought up as a way to deflect how he constantly injects himself into a hobby that he rarely ever participates in. It's like a pretentious foodie who doesn't even fucking eat and just yaps about food all day.
this is what happens anon, when you talk shit about rocco botte, you get banned.
>>11208902I have no idea how you got any of that from what i said, so i think you might need medication.>>11209105>That's not how it worksYou think a Japanese mcdonalds worker is going to get paid more just because the yen is now weaker than the US dollar?That ¥2300 toyline he loved from 5 years ago is now ¥4400. How do you think he's enjoying his toy hobby when McDonalds is only paying him ¥1,550 an hour, which is ¥100 more than last year thanks to his raise?Japanese companies just like fucking collectors in the ass. MLs haven't increased in price this crazily, only by 20% in the same time frame (and even ten years). Not double. Sucks that the yen is weaker, but that's not Hasbro raising their prices, whereas Japan companies do increase their price extremely for one thing but not the other. Why's that? For some reason, candy toys (and the lower end figures) are nowhere near as expensive.>>11208990Funny how VHS (and BETA) used to be hugely expensive in America too. OF course, in America, they realized they could make way more money by selling a billion copies at a cheaper price instead of a thousand at a higher price. Japan? Oh, what's the fun in not fucking their otaku? Guilt trip them into paying more to support a series, to prove they're real fans.VHS/DVD market used to be massive in the US, btw. It turned mediocre box office movies into super profitable franchises and popular movies' sales led to invincible pedo-kings. Shit like The Land Before Time got like a million sequels that were funded purely from home sales.Streaming killed all that. Or rather, greedy movie companies fucked themselves over.
>>11209269So bring back dvds after most streaming is dead?
>>11209283executives admitting they're fucking up? hilarious.What next? otaku and weeaboos saying they think getting fucked in the ass isn't fair?
>>11209269You pic brings back so many memories.TRU Japan was such a nice place until Amazon Japan and other online retailers killed it.Didn't help they were always overpriced too.Currently, it's cheaper to buy ML on Amazon USA (paid with US$) and have it shipped to me in Japan.In regards to screwing over the fans, it doesn't help that when there are events, demand is 4x higher than supply, they resort to the lottery system and charge whatever they want....(I tried to get USJ One-Piece live show and Sanji's restaurant tickets for my son. Damn near impossible...)
>>11209269>You think a Japanese mcdonalds worker is going to get paid more just because the yen is now weaker than the US dollar?Do you think Hasbro or BBTS is going to sell ML to Japanese customers for cheaper just because the yen is weaker?That figure still isn't nearly twice as expensive as a ML. No amount of you twisting facts will change that. Keep writing essays to prove how retarded you are.
>>11209120It amuses me when you guys spend entire threads in daisy chain conversations and then throw out 'so and so' is subjectautist or subjectanon since that's been typed as the only response to something I wrote, and I had no fucking idea what y'all were going on about. You can tell from pictures and yes sometimes by how someone types or word choices they make or written language mistakes who people are, but someone of you feel like stalkers, paranoid delusional shit posters, and like you're back in grade school, in your home room, arguing with the same four kids on your block.
>>11209432If you don't know who subjectanon is you need to simply lurk moar. We used to have a decorum on this website where you lurked for a sufficient time to learn the culture and lore around here before you posted. Whatever happened to that?
>>11209468Subby doesn't post in every thread, so it's easy to dodge him if you only collect Figma or Revos, for example.As long as someone gets the culture, I can forgive them for not knowing who notorious shitposters are. In fact, I envy anyone who has never encountered Subjectanon. Blessed are the blind, for they know not enough to ask why.
>>11209432'someone of you'Ugh, even I've learned to recognize this jeetspeak.Do not redeem
>>11209552Good animation is dead in the US because 3D and tweening is much easier.
>>11209388>ignores the fact that Japanese lines still cost moreIt's obviously the distributors are taking advantage, not Hasbro. Shit like BS and MLs are considered "kidult" now, when they were considered kiddy shit just a couple of years ago. Prices were basically 1:1 conversion rate before, like Japan does with us, taking into account the conversion fee.Again, these labels are to justify higher prices, while the actual kiddy shit hasn't shifted in price like the collector shit does. So again, why does kiddy shit prices remain flat? Transformers, Jurassic World, and other American brands are basically 1:1.And as another anon said, it's cheaper to buy certain lines from the US now AFTER shipping for shit like MLs.Stop defending rape.>>11209432They're butthurt third worlders who can't actually defend having their asses gaped, so they're just throwing out any insults now. >>11209489Funny thing is, I generally say nothing about Figma because they're actually good. So when i post, no one gives a shit, because I'm positive.Revoltechs and Figuarts? Oof... i used to criticize them back when they still produced great stuff. Why'd i criticize them? Because they started to cheap out, so they slowly became worse and worse. I stopped giving a shit about Revoltechs when it was just Yamaguchi's trash sculpts. And with Figuarts, i stopped paying attention about 4 years ago when the engineering became awful. So i know almost nothing about them now, aside from the fact that they're still fucking over their customers by overcharging them.... and that isn't to say i won't buy a Figuart here and there, because sometimes the retarded engineering is somewhat hidden. pic contains the last figuart i bought, right next to the William Stout book in the middle.
>>11210111>Funny thing is, I generally say nothing about Figma because they're actually goodLmao Figma is easily the most generic imo. They do some good stuff, but I've been more impressed by other companies, even Bandai.
>>11210111>bought the most universally despised SHF of the last few years for rape prices at SDCCThe only thing you prove with your posts is your level of mental disability.
>>11210143Figma is the only one that consistently gets anime figures right, even if more realistic characters from games and live action can drop the ball.
>>11210111>It's obviously the distributors are taking advantage, not Hasbro.Buy ML from BBTS: $25 = 3800¥Buy ML from Amazon: $25 = 3800¥Buy ML from Hasbro Pulse: $25 = 3800¥But it's the distributors taking advantage? Despite the fact that $25 on Hasbro Pulse still converts to 3800¥ at today's exchange rate?>And as another anon said, it's cheaper to buy certain lines from the US now AFTER shipping for shit like MLs.I've been using the fucking US RRP converted to yen this whole fucking time, you fucking dense cunt.THAT 4400¥ SHF IS STILL NOT ALMOST TWICE AS EXPENSIVE AS A 3800¥ MARVEL LEGEND, NO MATTER HOW YOU WANT TO TWIST THINGS. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK FUCKING SKULL.
>>11208789Jada is cheaper than ML and infinitely better in anatomy sculpt and joint placement + cuts. The difference is night and day. It just shows how little of a shit most other western companies give when they can't even get the anatomy and joint setups right which doesnt even cost extra money to improve.The only thing thats good value with western toys are the heads with their photoreal tech. Star Wars Black series is the worst offender where they usually give you just the figure and a single fucking accessory.
>>11210143If thats subby theres something surprisingly comfy knowing he doesn't have any gripe with Figma.The generic anime girl is so lame sentiment evaporated immediately when I took one second to look at the "alternatives" and realized Figuarts to this very day cant get anime faces right lmao. Figma made it seem so easy its easy to forget they were the only ones who could do the figures they do until very recently when the Chinese of all people finally stepped up to the same level with all these Snail Shell and Hasuki releases.
>>11205730>The reason the majority of Americans shop at Walmart is because they are poor. This isn't the post WW2 period anymore. The golden years are over. America had its heyday, and has been in decline for decades.I hate to agree but you're right. Most of us are poorer in real spending terms. What else could be the result of sending jobs to brown countries while importing as many brown people as possible? There's been a growing class divide and most people that think they're middle class are in reality on the upper edge of the poor side of a massive canyon. That's why all of these retailers have shut down, it's so fucking difficult to start a small business, and scams seem like the only way to get ahead. We're toast until we seriously push back against these forces that are fucking us raw.
>>11206347>completely ignore Japanese shipping prices when comparing to BBTS pricesAre eastern collectors usually this retarded? Yeah, seems so.
>>11211146>>11210554Never said they were outright bad, just that otehr companies feel a bit higher quality than they do. Granted, I haven't gotten a figma since the MHA guys.
>>11204091Gasp, oh no, 200 freedumb bucks, for a figure over 10 times bigger than my $20 kids toy. It should only be $75 max because I'm a struggling teen collector and can't afford this hobby I just picked up. Waaaaaahhh.
>>11211182There's lots of us that don't live in America so shipping from BBTS would be the same as any other import store.
Too many people make too many 'exceptions ' for figures they think are too expensive but buy them anyway due to whatever reason. A desired character, fomo, impression others are ok with the price so they should be too, a momentary lapse in judgment, or many such things. This lets manufacturers get away with over all higher prices.
>>11207170I just want to remind you that you're getting this mad over toys.
>>11211215FOMO is very much a real thing. Some things skyrocket in price on the aftermarket.
>>11211239That doesn't mean to listen to the fomo
>>11212340So you're just totally ok with buying something way later for a more expensive price?
>>11213239No. You don't buy it ever.
>>11210870>But it's the distributors taking advantage?yes, because you're quoting a direct exchange rate, instead of actually looking how much distributors/stores are charging in Japan. Again, it's almost twice as much.And again, toy makers in Japan aren't charging double what their candy toys sold for, nor even Mattel/Jazwares sold for 5 years ago. They barely went up in price. So there's a pretty claer divide in Japan what's meant for kids and adults by how they're priced, because the Japanese culture of fucking their collectors in the ass. You're only proving how collectors have a stolkholm syndrome by defending their policies of rape.>>11211139>Jada is cheaper than MLLast i looked MLs were a dollar less, but looking now, they're the same price. >>11211146I can't say i have no gripe with Figma/Good SMile, since i do think I'm being overcharged as fuck as with any japanese collector company, but the products they produce are consistently good. Even their realistic sculpts are better than Bandai and Kaiyodo.And that isn't to say I think they're always good/great, since they did make that Robocop.I'll shit on anything that is shit, regardless of who it's from.
See? Told you he never buys anything so he can't even post any of his stuff except for the same junk pile from a few years ago and yet he's comfortable posting the Hasbroslop like any of that shit matters. And he has the gall to call people third worlders when he can barely afford toys and still yaps about shit he doesn't even buy. It makes you wonder how broken you'd have to be to get into a hobby you don't even participate in anymore besides shitposting about it because there's nothing else worthwhile going on in your life. No "names" mentioned since I know you just love that attention. You know who the fuck you are, you sad miserable cretin.
>>11214680You know this is akin to what local comic book shops and other small local retailers do right? There's a small mom and pop toy shop near me I hit up for fun every once in a while, and they sell current items but for a markup. What you're talking about is no different.
>>11204091Imagine if all the thinsg you've done in life just amounted to a shitty nickname (subjectanon) where everyone just remembers you for how autistic and miserable you sound over toys like a retarded manchild. You have no stakes in anything but somehow it still hurts your ego when someone badmouths DC Icons, a dead line of all things. Couldn't be me.
>>11214831He wouldn't know that because he never crawls out of his mancave unless it's to cherrypick photos of select shops to make his "point".
>>11214680>yes, because you're quoting a direct exchange rate, instead of actually looking how much distributors/stores are charging in Japan. Again, it's almost twice as much.That just reinforces that the SHF you used as an example isn't nearly twice as expensive as a ML. How fucking retarded are you? You've just invalidated your initial argument.>So there's a pretty claer divide in Japan what's meant for kids and adults by how they're pricedYou mean like every other market? How fucking retarded are you?This is a serious question. How fucking retarded are you? Do you wear pants on your head? Do you lick windows? Do you really expect anyone to bother reading your posts ever again after proving yourself wrong repeatedly in this thread? You should have just admitted to being a wetback, because then you would have an excuse for being Slowpoke Rodriguez.
>>11214831>There's a small mom and pop toy shop near me I hit up for fun every once in a while, and they sell current items but for a markup.Such stores are demonic covered by the veil of sweet honeyed words like "small mom and pop" as if that gives them some license to scalp figures.
>>11214831>TRU is a mom and pop shopSad that people are forgetting what their labels looked like. AFAIK, their labels are the same style in every country. check >>11209269 to see their obvious labels.Anyway, large corporations aren't scalpers and are pretty consistent from one store to the next, state to state.>ib4 fast food exampleshit example & it's sad different regions are now being treated like Hawaii and Alaska (for third worlders: due to their locations, these states had their own prices. TV ads would specifically mention that deals being advertised don't apply there)>>11214910You're retarded and are failing to follow along.Again, I've been talkign about how the Japanese market fucks their customers in the ass. I used MLs as an example, because they're pretty standardly priced in the US and are for kids. Even not using KID toys as an example, fact is that American collector companies DON'T fuck their customers in the ass. Again, i used the example of DCC releasing Figuart-wannabe toyline that cost almost half the price of a Figuarts. Only $10 more than a normal kids brand (like MLs) and only $5 more than their normal collector action figures that had more articulation than MLs (and better paint and QC). A ~25% difference when MLs were only $20 in the US.In contrast, Japanese kids lines are many more times cheaper, yet their MLs cost almsot twice as much as they do in the US because they've been grouping them with their collector shit now, where Japanese companies love fucking their collectors in their ass. Again, I used Mattel figures in Japan as an example of how their prices are almost 1:1 in the US, because those are sold as for kids. MLs and BS figures are now in the "kidadult" section in TRUs in Japan, whereas before (4 or so years ago), they were grouped and priced similary to Mattel's shit.You're so hung up over a small little detail that you have no idea what is going on. Literally autism.
>>11215054>American collector companies DON'T fuck their customers in the assYes they do. A standard ML retails for $3 less than the SHF you claimed was "twice as expensive as a ML" and the ML has worse paint, worse sculpt, and next to zero accessories.Your entire premise is built on a lie you have been trying to force. I'm not reading your wall of text. You are the dumbest motherfucker on this board, and everytime I read one of your posts, I can feel my brain cells committing suicide in a desperate attempt to escape your stupidity. Seriously, stop fucking your mother. Maybe if there was less incest in your family, you wouldn't be so retarded.
>>11204091>hobbyBeing a consoomer has never been a hobby. Your "hobby" is literally just stacking up shit you buy and if you're this devoted to it then companies are making the right decision by milking you for all you're worth since you apparently NEED to buy the latest piece of Chinese plastic.
>>11215060>i aint reading shitsure is blindly saying an elephant is a snake because he touched its trunk, but at least you admit you're blind.Always great to know it's always retards who defend Japanese companies raping collectors' asses the hardest.
>>11215128Why would anyone read the insane ramblings of a retard that thinks an SHF being $3 more than a Marvel Legend is equal to it being twice as expensive?You were wrong with that assertion, you've continued to be wrong for the entire thread, so why would I read anymore of the drivel you spew onto my screen?To use your frequently used analogy, why would I listen to someone that is trying to tell me that 2+2=5?Begone.
>>11215054Marvel Legends havent been just 20 bucks in a while. Anywhere from 20-30 for a standard figure, ain't no way kids are affording Marvel Legends in America with prices like that.They are even more ass rape priced not only in Japan but anywhere that isnt America because this may shock you but they are import toys to any country that isn't America. Easily have to pay anywhere from 40-60 aud for a standard Hasbro figure. It highly fluctuates based on character popularity. Like no shit I will buy an eastern import instead at that point, no Hasbro figure is worth 50 Australian bucks.
>>11211215This can be applied to every product in the history of trade and is refered to as capitalism. Toys aren't immune. You think your new iPhone is worth what Apple charge?
>>11215209I'm really starting to wonder if the average poster here is underage or just really fucking stupid. They don't even have the most basic understanding of capitalism.
>>11215209To be fair, I know Apple marks stuff up a lot, but microchips can be pretty expensive. A better analogy is needed.
>>11215054>Anyway, large corporations aren't scalpersI beg to differ.
>>11215532They are charging $3 more? I can't believe that figure is twice as expensive as a Marvel Legend and American companies rape their customers.
>>11215557Not whoever you were talking to so I don't care about random figure vs Marvel Legend pricing.I can find plenty of examples of Amazon trying to scam people into buying figures for over MSRP though.
>>11215165>ain't no way kids are affording Marvel LegendsI don't disagree, but i also don't agree. Considering how much other stuff has risen in price, toys being $4 more than they used to be 4 years ago is on the lower end. Food that SUBSIDIZED by the government has risen in price by 30%, which is pretty insane.Since affordability is relative, only being a few bucks more isn't back breaking, but sheeeet, the cost of goods has increased way too much in a short period of time. Still, it's better than what Japan fucking did. >but anywhere that isnt America because this may shock you but they are import toys to any country that isn't AmericaI know all about tarifs, imbued because your government penalizes you for being too lazy to produce anything yourself and have such shitty economic rules that Hasbro/Mattel/etc pulled out of distributing their own toys in your country (except austrilia, because you're basically a third world country if not for England, so were never worth selling toys to in the first place). So American toys used to be much cheaper over in other first world nations, until your governments fucked you over.Anyway, if you haven't been paying attention, i talked about how various American companies sell their toys in Japan at almost 1:1 exchange rates. Shit from Mattel and Jakks are still being sold cheaply. Even Transformers are, because Japan is able to produce their own products and doesn't need to fuck over imports like Europoors and third worlders do.Which goes back to my point that Japan rapes over their collectors, because they mark stuff sold to collectors much higher (2x-5x more) than what their products are actually worth.>>11215155>retard who refuses to read, nor understand what is being argued wants to lecture on how correct he islolAll just to pretend Japanese collector companies aren't over charging like they have since the 80s
>>11215532>>11215572I never really understood why Amazon does this, but the fact is that prices are priced normally 99% of the time for 99% of their products. From what i understand, the ones you're posting are probably glitches, given Amazon's policies against sudden price increases that massive.Anyway, I was talking about big companies that have physical stores, hence being the same state to state, city to city, where even the layouts of the stores are standardized.
>>11215779>I never really understood why Amazon does this, but the fact is that prices are priced normally 99% of the time for 99% of their products. They used to be. You'd almost never see nonsense like this even a couple years ago on Amazon so if it happened then I would say it was most likely a glitch, like the Lex Luthor sitting at 79.99 on Target that was price swapped with something else that was released that day (an autographed DC thing I believe) and his price got botched in Target's system the process. I doubt it's a glitch in the case of Amazon's recent stuff though. Because I notice Amazon's highest gouging being on stuff that is sold out everywhere else, like that Red Hood. And recently prices for Amazon exclusive figure packs shot up.Also the extreme price hikes are mostly on McFarlane figures, maybe because Todd has been going hard on the artificial scarcity recently, but I have seen some inflated Marvel Legends by a few bucks like the Phoenix that's at 51.99 right now.
>>11215750Theres just no equivalent to Eastern imports coming out of the West but also no equivalent of Mandarake for domestic toy which justifies their higher cost but also keeps said prices in check. There is no doubt all toys are overpriced when Aliexpress often sells its factory reject/overstock (like the Premium Dna EWJ figures) or passable Mafex bootlegs for even less than a Marvel Legends. However import toys are definitely worth up to twice that of a domestic and rising domestic toy prices will ensure this stays consistent. In practice, thanks to Mandarake, you can often get imports for the same price as a domestic figure.Maybe someday a new company can do for eastern imports what Jada has done to domestic toys and show that you can commercially sell something for a fraction of the cost that blows all competitors out of the water. In the meantime we have companies like 1000 toys charging 4 to 8x the cost of domestics for a fucking figure that doesnt even have a wash or weathering details and mininal accessories.
You guys are complaining about prices now. How are you guys going to deal with toy prices when the 60% tariffs on Chinese imports hit in January and all of that is passed along to you?
>>11204091Posts like these mostly trigger anons who secretly regret spending on too many overpriced toys, don't expect sober and constructive discussion.More people than those who would admit it have addiction issues in this hobby.
>>11215908Sunk cost fallacy is a bitch. :0
>>11215908Keeps getting harder to justify these rising prices. Domestics should not cost more than 20 usd but are pushing 40 already and all imports are racing each other to make 80 bucks the standard.
>>11215841>I doubt it's a glitchI think it is, since like i said, Amazon has policies against sudden gigantic spikes. Your own chart shows a massive jump, instead of something that is gradual. I doubt amazon wants to be this massively hypocritical.In addition, Amazon supposedly only does price increases if demand is super high. Why would it suddenly jump like that months later? It doesn't make sense, especially since the price doesn't even go down. Most things like toy sales are top heavy, where people buy things when they're brand new and when most reviews happen.>maybe because Todd has been going hard on the artificial scarcity recentlyYou'd only see that early on though and i doubt they do that. Giant stores like Walmart and Target demand products are in their distribution warehouses months/weeks ahead of time. If the product isn't on the shelf by XX/XX/XXXX McFarlane actually pays a penalty fee, which happened during COVID, where they were paid out over a million dollars. So to McFarlane, it's not worth it to withhold stock. Ever. They don't want bad relations with customers and stores.Same shit with stores like Amazon. They're not going to fuck over their customers for a quick buck, when a faithful customer is worth more than 20 extra bucks. If i had to guess why those prices are incongruent, it'd because the listing was taken down at one point or only some third party vendor was the last one with stock, who had a high price. So when Amazon restocked, their system glitched and they used the pricing for the third party vendor. I've seen it happen with electronics i've held off on buying, waiting for a sale that never happenedA thing to note is that comic/collector shops almost always price their shit higher, since they use distributors that won't give them as good a deal as amazon/target/walmart does buying it directly from McFarlane/Hasbro/Mattel. I've known comic shops that just go into Targets for stock, because it's cheaper than a distributor
>>11216068>I've known comic shops that just go into Targets for stock, because it's cheaper than a distributorIs that even legal?
>>11215845>Theres just no equivalent to Eastern imports coming out of the Westuuuuuh... pic.There's a ton of westaboos over there, including head people from the collector companies. McFarlane Toys actually had Takara do distribution for their toys over there, but I'm unsure of when they began or stopped. I used to have my aunt do shopping for me way back in the 90s and 00s, since she lived over there, and she's take pictures of things she thought i'd like. So the amount of western shit over there made me realize how Japan was as nerdy as Americans.>no equivalent of Mandarake for domestic toy.. or am i reading what you're saying wrong?Not sure what you're saying now.>However import toys are definitely worth up to twice that of a domestic and rising domestic toy prices will ensure this stays consistent. In practice, thanks to Mandarake, you can often get imports for the same price as a domestic figure.... ok, in the US Good Smile and Figuarts do have domestic distribution though. Not all the figures, but what we do get is almost 1:1 priced like Japan. It's up to stores do sales and sometimes shit gets clearanced off, like the TMNT and Overwatch shit. I mean, i once had a chance to get a bunch of Figmas for $10-15 at a convention, due to poor sales. Even Revoltechs. So despite poor sales, Japan doesn't budge from their pricing.While I'll spend the money for a Japanese figure, because there's usually no other options (and only if it actually looks great), I definitely don't think they'er worth their prices, because western companies have released equivalents that are as good or better. Even if they didn't, having a couple more joints and and slightly higher QC isn't worth 2x-5x more.And while there is no nationwide used goods nerd stores, that's what eBay is for. Even Mandarake has an eBay shop, despite Japan not having ebay (it shut down in the 00s). Also, t there's are Book Offs in a couple of states, who does import shit from Japan to resell.
>>11216072after shipping fees, it can be more expensive for them as buying from Target. So instead of putting up with a distributor who'll take longer to get their goods in than Target, they'll take a quick trip to Walmart/Target to buy their lunch, and buy whatever seems to be in demand.Sometimes they'll luck out and find something that'll net them more than their regular mark up.Lots of anons on /toy/ used to talk about fighting with these resellers and how they'd pick clean a five mile radius around their shop for anything worthwhile.These types of reports have all but disappeared on /toy/, either because it doesn't happen as often anymore or because /toy/ is too full of trolls that resemblance of a helpful community is all but gone.Anyway, i can't blame comic book shops doing that, since distirbutors can be pretty shit. And comic shops generally buy a couple of interesting figures in order to have drive higher traffic by having more variety of stock, so they don't actually buy cases worth of stock.
It's really grim. Here's 100 bucks SHF btw.
>>11216068Public corporations like Amazon have the end goal of quarterly profit, not ethical consistency. They set their algorithms to maximize what they think they can get out of buyers. They know people don't have many other options, so why wouldn't they upcharge on desirable items, especially cases where no other online store has the item besides ebay and mercari? They don't need faithful customers when they're the largest online store in the world--they have a captive audience. They also have millions with sunk cost fallacy over needing to justify their prime subscription, and millions more using the site out of habit and knowing few others.Actually if there was any way I'd argue this is not fully intentional is if Amazon added ebay to their list of monitored sites for algorithmic gauge on item value and now its algorithm is chowing down on scalper dictated prices. But I would think that would affect Marvel Legends just as much as McFarlanes.
>>11216113I meant Americans don't make anything that can be considered equivalent to a high end Eastern toy. Mezco is probably the closest thing. This is why the pricing while not justified as a piece of plastic as a whole is justified in comparison to domestic figures. I would definitely hesitate to pay over 2x more though as is the case with Figmas high end video game figures or 1000 toys for example. With Mandarake the closest western equivalent is Ollies that clearances unwanted trash as opposed to preserving collectables for resale. Most people just dont bother to keep domestic American figures in good boxed condition or to list them for resale. The few that do list on Ebay or whereever ask high prices due to the scarcity of people doing so. In contrast reselling Japanese toys and merch is a market strong enough to sustain an entire chain of stores and you regularly find mint condition items for a fraction of retail cost.
>>11215908Cognitive dissonance is common with rape victims in the Japanese collector community>>11216187>Americans don't make anything that can be considered equivalent to a high end Eastern toyDCC's movie line. And yes, Mezco. And a lot of toylines already reached Figma levels a decade ago.>Most people just dont bother to keep domestic American figures in good boxed condition or to list them for resale.Bro... are you not American or have you never stepped outside your house? Keeping shit in mint condition has been a thing that's appeared in popular media since the 90s, which means it's been around since at least the 80s, popularized in thousands of comic stores. The collector toy market itself started in the US.Your weeaboo is oozing right out of your ears.>>11216163>Public corporations like Amazon have the end goal of quarterly profit, not ethical consistencyyes, and offering lower prices, as stated in their policies, is part of why i think it's a glitch. This is how both Amazon and WAlmart attracted the most customers: by offering lower prices.So why would they suddenly and abnormally raise prices on a figure like that, when it goes against their own policies and stated goals? IT even goes against their own description of their algorithm. It has to be a glitch and likely isn't caught because it's just a toy and long past its original release.>if Amazon added ebayDoubt. As i said with the electronic i was loitering on, a third party vendor became the go to price after Amazon ran out of stock. Weirdly enough, another thing i was sitting on had its title changed too. So the listing became a generic no-name brand, despite the product not changing. Weird shit that wasn't fixed for a year, because it wasn't restocked by amazon in that long.Anyway, this is rather moot, since this has nothing to do with the fact that TRU in Japan is now marketing ML and BS figures as toys for adults, thus being overpriced, unlike Transformers and Jurassic World shit.
>>11216299>Cognitive dissonance is common with rape victims in the Japanese collector communityDidn't you justify a $60 McFartlane Kickstarter recently?>it's ok when my waifu does itClassic Subby.
>>11215880The irony is that it doesn't matter to subjectanon since he stopped buying figures anyway.
>>11216352Though in this case, he's the battered wife that keeps coming back for more.
>>11216299Mezcos have enough resources thrown into it to be import grade but not really the level of product design or execution to compare to imports. You will have to redpill me on DCCs.I've made it pretty clear I'm Australian. I can easily buy most new or old import figures on Mandarake for under retail price but trying to get the old Killzone figures, Mcfarlane CODs, Mattels Halo or the Jazwares Fortnight figures for example is utterly hopeless. Even searching within America only, theres barely any listings and even loose figures are priced 60 usd and above. This is before factoring shipping costs which will easily double the listings price. Its hard to get anything once a domestic toys production run passes over unlike with import figures; not that the scalpers and lackluster distribution makes them easy to get even during production. Disney is too busy making worthless shuricopters to bury in landfills instead
>>11216299>DCC's movie line.You have been told a thousand times by people that actually bought those pieces of shit, they were not good then and they are not good now.
>>11216127Is there no one to see that they don't have an inventory list from a distributor? No one questions where they get their stock? Do they fake paper work? It could be stolen goods for all people know.
>>11216187>Mezco is probably the closest thing.Stopped reading right there.
>>11216402You may not like Mezcos style, but that really doesn't matter. It's like me shitting on anything Yamaguchi makes, because i hate his style, so it means Revoltechs aren't actually collector toys. OR me hating on how awful the new Figuarts are, with the worse hip joints.What matters is the value they're putting into the toy that puts it into the higher end of the 1:12 collectors stuff. DCC did that with their movie line, which were basically Figuart clones, but at half the cost and with better paint (shading, washes, etc).>I can easily buy most new or old import figures on Mandarake>Even searching within America only, theres barely any listings and even loose figures are priced 60 usd and above.You're pretending that Mandarake always has shit in stock, but given the nature of being a used goods store, they won't. It's the same shit with eBay. Nevermind there's literally over a thousand comic book/collector shops in the US, where you can find shit too.Sucks that you're an aussie, because you're missing out hundreds of thousands of deals for cheap toys, but that's what you get for living in the worst hemisphere. Literally nothing there but raw materials and backwards societies like your own, so you get abused by everyone.Also >complaining about supply and demandHow entitled and clueless. You're complaining that shit is too popular. Guess what? IF an old toy is popular in Japan, those toys would be expensive at Mandarake too. And i generally never buy from Mandarake because they're usually more expensive than just waiting until there's a cheap listing on eBay. If i lived in Japan, id find better deals at Mandarake (or hardoff/bookoff) at a phsyical store, since physical shopping is almost always cheaper (just like in the US).>>11216502wut?
>>11216654>that's what you get for living in the worst hemisphere.Canada, India, Mexico, and the Middle East are in the northern hemisphere, so you are objectively wrong.
It's fine It's not like Super7 at all
>>11216299The thing is in nascent markets, monopolies and oligopolies are built in stages. During those stages its advantageous for the business trying to dominate the market to beat out competitors by offering lower prices, better service or any number of other desirable traits to consumers. But once you reach oligopoly where you are a massive enough dominant business in the market its no longer needed to do such things because you are among a small few who control the market and consumers cannot easily avoid buying from you. So at that point the mask comes off, the prices rise, the service degrades and there is little the consumer can do about it. You only need to be the least bad choice among a few choices. If challengers do appear to try to compete with the dominant businesses by offering lower prices or better service you can buy them up or lobby to regulate them out of business before they become an actual threat.And again their stated policies and goals are just PR. Their goal is profit. Why not email them, bring these strange price increases to their customer service's attention? You seem to have an idealistic view of the company, so if Amazon really cares about these policies and goals surely they will correct it once made aware? It might take some time for the back end people to figure it out but it would potentially happen and you would be helping thousands of collectors.
>>11216875>31.45 shipping What in the
>>11216654>DCC did that with their movie line, which were basically Figuart bootlegs, but at half the budget and made without an understanding of what makes SHFs goodFTFY.
>>11216654Even putting the style aside, Mezco isn't competently designed or made unlike Yamaguchi. Import grade sure but not import quality. If I were to accept them as import quality though, they charge the same ass rape prices as Japanese imports anyways. It kind of defeats your original argument.And yes Americans are privileged to have easier access to their domestics but its fairer to compare how these toys are priced on neutral footing where everything is an import like in Australia.
>>11217164Why don't you just not live in Australia? :)
>>11217174his family much like most australians were banished there and can never leave.
>>11217174Getting charged slightly more for toys is really a small price to pay to not have to deal with Chicano gangbangers and future athletes.>>11217270We are free to try to leave anytime we like, but the border is protected by saltwater crocs, blue ring octopi, stonefish, great white sharks, and the Emu Marine Corps.
>>11217287It's not a good idea to fuck with an emu, to be fair.
>>11217174Having to pay a mark up to get this sort of slop really isn't the end of the world. Getting Japanese and Chinese imports is about the same or even bit better compared to the rest of the world and thats all that matters. Also what all the other anons said. We have to survive against literal living dinosaurs but its still much safer than living in jigaboo central.
I bet he never even bought any of DCC's offerings. Probably why their lines tanked too lol
>>11217335Even if I lived in America, I wouldn't buy garbage like that if it was $2 at Ollie's.If these are the "hundreds of thousands of deals for cheap toys" that Subby told us we are missing out on, then it's akin to missing out on herpes.
>>11217335Oh, wow... Canada doesn't even have less popular characters for that much.
>>11209662i miss your customs, where do you post now? i can't find your ig
>>11217355Whats this new character arc of Subby can't into new toy purchases anymore? I love how he is sleeping on Jada and claims some other lines are the greatest despite not buying anything anymore.
>>11217461Any time he's asked to post photos of new figures he bought within the last two years, he genuinely couldn't answer and has lowkey admitted he hasn't bought any since all his photos of his purchases were made years before then. That joke was almost 2 years ago though, so it only gets funnier each passing year.
For me, it's that time when Subby defended Mezco Ragnarok Hulk like his life depended it, even shitting on those providing in-hand pics claiming they were bootlegs (they weren't) because he genuinely couldn't believe how wrong he was about the figure.
>>11217363You are their neighbours how come your supply is so ass? Not that it matters, >>11217361 is right lmao. I tried getting into American figures but it was so painfully mediocre. Not every import makes you feel like you got your moneys worth but at least you derive quality enjoyment from owning them. I've had no such thing for American figures other than Mcfarlanes Space Marines. Those cost less than a Black Series but have so much more presence and cool factor.
>>11217577A sliver of me sympathises because being priced out of imports is becoming a realer possibility with each passing year. Imagine being priced out of fucking domestics though. The only reason I wouldn't is because they are mostly shit and not even worth buying from Ollies.
>>11217579The Chinese don't even bother bootlegging Mezcos because their own clothed goods figures are so much superior kek.
>>11215955>and all imports are racing each other to make 80 bucks the standardkek where? all fucking imports cost $110/120 by now, only the shittiest old reissues and simplest figmas cost $85 and some atrocious SHF, the regular imports all cost $120 by now, and companies like CT toys showing that the production of these molds is cheap as fuck to ask only $25 for each makes me realize that I'm paying over $100 extra to these fucks, that's why I left imports, I'm not a paypig
>>11217599>all fucking imports cost $110/120 by nowThe hell? Some of the best SHFs I've bought lately only range from $30-50 on average (around 12 figures altogether), all from various different lines with zero known issues and good-to-great accessories. Which again, isn't much when I basically buy US figures for similar prices these days. It's only really Figma prices that have gone up to the $60-80 range as a standard. I don't know where the hell you're ordering your figures to cost you that much (if you order any at all).
>>11217634It's not just Figma. Many Revos are in the same price range now. But you are right, most of them are below $80. It's just that this board has a lot of retards that haven't figured out how to buy Japanese figs from Japanese stores.
>>11217638Duurrr what is shipping costs
>>11217638I guess there's Revos but even so, they fluctuate between $60-80 which is a far cry from $110/120. Anyway, I know stinkers like the Guts figure or two initial OP releases have given people pause but SHF has been pumping out great figures all within the $30-50 price range, which is honestly amazing to me compared to Figma standardizing around the $80 range these days.And again, the added costs of importing US figures for me have reached that same price range so I can't even feel good about them unless it's some outstanding banger of a figure.
>>11217654If you are paying $40 for a single Figma to be shipped, you are definitely retarded. If you are paying for DHL from Amiami, you are definitely retarded. There are hundreds of ways to save money on Jap shit, and you just want to sit in the corner with your thumb up your ass.
>>11216135Thats wild. Glad I don't collect that slop
>>11217821The eternal struggle: those who collect something call those who speak negatively about it poor, those who don't collect it call it slop.
>>11217599Is this in American? 120usd is still scalp prices. The hobby will be fucking dead by the time it reaches that point. 100usd is definitely where the higher end of the spectrum like insane video game figmas, Chinaman soft goods or the big Snail Shells that give you a lot of accessories are at. Bandai and Revol have hit the 80usd price mark this year and yeah you will be right. Next year all of them will target 100-110 bucks while Figma will become 120 as standard even for a cloth goods anime girl in a tiny box.I would switch fully to Chinaman imports but they are all over 15 cm tall or something which only works if its a monster or mecha girl.I absolutely would buy more bootlegs cause fuck all this shit. Not a capeshit fan but the 1000 toys Reach Spartans are just begging to be bootlegged. Haloman here is absolutely goated for a figure that only cost as much as a Marvel Legends.
>>11217821The bigger the IP the harder Bandais Figuarts will fumble it. These past two years has been nonstop disappointment in the Figuarts general
>>11217164>competently designed or made unlike Yamaguchi.What does this even mean? design = style and there's been plasticizer/paint/plastic issues with recent figures. You're trying to make up some quality for Japanese collector toys, just because they're charging you up the ass for them. Nevermind it isn't just the collector quality toys, as pointed out earlier with their barely ML-level toys and actual MLs, where they're they've nearly doubled their price just because adults buy them.> its fairer to compare how these toys are priced on neutral footing where everything is an import like in Australia.You're retarded. It's like saying Marvel Legends are now supposed to be collector figures just because Japanese companies view them as competitors to their own collector figures (who knows if this is actually the real reason), raising their prices, even though just 5 years ago they were almost 1:1 pricing and sold as children toys. Nevermind Hasbro themselves considers them budget children toys, thus are sold that way in the US. Your own countries set your own rules on costs, tariffs, regulations, etc, that are so different or outrageous that you can't even directly order from the manufacturer anymore. It's so completely warped, it's the opposite of "fair"Europe didn't use that be that way, hence having almost 1:1 prices into the 90s, for both Japanese and American products. Japan STILL has 1:1 prices, so their toys are almost as cheap as they are in the US, but of course, they made a couple of exceptions to fuck collectors in Japan up the ass, because otaku like you prove you'll gladly take it.>>11216906You're reaching dude, because it goes against every current amazon policy and description.And it doesn't even make sense for their "evil plan" to enter its final phase, because they're still not number 1 in the market place and their competitors are still ahead of them. Raising prices now goes against common sense in villainy.... unless it's an 80s cartoon.
>>11218097Mezco is just not good at function, engineering and final finishing. Their promo images always greatly deviate from what they manage to execute in the end product. Its like financing a blockbuster but not having the competent actors and writers to make the movie actually passable. Style isn't the problem here when you can't even realize your original vision faithfully.The toy market in general is shrinking and pivoting to older demographics. Yes, collecting general store toys was much easier back in the day but you forget that 5 years ago imports were also half the price of what they cost now, even children could afford imports back then. I'd have to pay more for a domestic figure today than an import 5 years ago. When I look at the absolute state of Ollies filled with overproduced disney shit no one wants and all the complaints about scalping and supply issues, its clear America is also rapidly headed towards only selling action figures as overpriced specialty goods if it hasn't happened already.
>>11218097Amazon is THE online store. I don't know who you think is ahead of them.
>>11218097>Marvel Legends are now supposed to be collector figures just because Japanese companies view them as competitors to their own collector figuresMarvel Legends ARE collector figures because Hasbro market them to collectors. None of their marketing is aimed at kids, because kids don't give a fuck about X-Men 97, obscure badguy 150 from What If? #75, or original appearance Yondu. Every press release and PR social media thing is deliberately aimed at capeshit soicucks. Shit like picrel is what they try (and fail) to market to kids. You are so stuck in the past it's fucking hilarious.>Your own countries set your own rules on costs, tariffs, regulations, etc, that are so different or outrageousYou really are clueless. Tariffs are really no different to US state taxes. Safety regulations are mostly standardised, with some exceptions such as Europe's new laws regarding micro plastics, and California needing to warn everyone that literally EVERYTHING is mildly carcinogenic.>you can't even directly order from the manufacturer anymore. You are really showing your ignorance here. Most American collector stores can't order directly from the manufacturer because Hasbro has ridiculously high MOQs, so they have to order from EE instead. Please keep writing essays that prove how retarded you are. You are entertaining the entire board.
>>11218110You're just arguing your opinion now, saying what you like and don't like about a toy. It has nothing to do with their actual costs or market they're in.>children could afford imports lmaoNo. Compared to now it seems affordable, but collector shit wasn't something kids could afford. Even back in the 00s, when you could find Figmas and Revoltechs ~$22-30, that wasn't affordable for kids. Kids need to save up to buy that shit and now even adults need to save up just to buy collector toys. No longer can a weeaboo say they can buy that shit with their McDonalds pay check or autism bucks.Again, you're arguing from your warped Australian perspective and warped asshole that Japanese collector companies enlarged by overcharging you>>11218261>Marvel Legends ARE collector figures because Hasbro market them to collectors. Hasbro literally can't make collector toys. Their license only covers children toys, hence being the low low price of $24.99.99.99. Thanks Obama.>None of their marketing is aimed at kids, because kids don't give a fuck about X-Men 97, obscure badguy 150 from What If?LOL. Yeah, like kids totally knew about Tusk, Ahab, Forearm, and a bunch of other nobodies from Toy Biz's 90s lines>You really are clueless. Tariffs are really no different to US state taxes.LOL, NO U. Did you konw that the US also has tariffs (aka custom fees/duties)? And that countries like chavland and aussieland also have sales tax? Difference is that the US doesn't have insane tariffs.>Most American collector stores can't order directly from the manufacturer because Hasbro has ridiculously high MOQsREALLY?? It's almost like i was talking about that a few posts ago! But that has nothing to do with the fact that European laws led to Hasbro needing to shutter a bunch of European branches, decreasing their network and partnering with outside groups, leading to higher prices.Your entire post was third worlder zoomer ignorance, just to defend overpriced Japanese products.
>>11204146literally jewish scam
>>11218336>Hasbro literally can't make collector toys.Look at the OP and try again, Subby.>Their license only covers children toysYou seriously don't know how the license works, and you've now proved how retarded you are. Again.>Yeah, like kids totally knew about Tusk, Ahab, Forearm, and a bunch of other nobodies from Toy Biz's 90s linesThere's a difference between filling out a wave with toyetic weirdos from a Super Nintendo game or those other two X-Men/Force characters at a time when kids interest in X-Men was at its peak, and shit like Tracksuit Mafia. Apples and oranges. You are actually retarded for even trying to insinuate that.>Did you konw that the US also has tariffs (aka custom fees/duties)? No shit, Sherlock.>And that countries like chavland and aussieland also have sales tax?Did you know that when Australia introduced the GST, the price of toys actually went down because they removed several other taxes? I bet you didn't. You are too busy licking the shit off Todd's cock after he dilates your asshole with a 6" Spawn figure for $60 plus postage.>Difference is that the US doesn't have insane tariffsAustralia's tariff on action figures is 5%. America's tariff on anything from China starts at 7.5%. >It's almost like i was talking about that a few posts agoLink it.>European laws led to Hasbro needing to shutter a bunch of European branchesDo you mean how Hasbro took their ball and went home because they tried to cheat Trademark law but a precedent has already been set in the EU?https://www.womblebonddickinson.com/uk/insights/articles-and-briefings/how-did-hasbro-lose-its-monopolyNow explain why Hasbro is closing branches in Latin America and laying off American workers because of those evil EU laws, and not just because Hasbro is dying because they overproduced Mousecuck garbage that nobody wanted and tried to pander to the purple haired alphabet crowd that only pretend that they play D&D.
>>11218336Of course you think kids cant afford an import for a mere 22 bucks, you've been priced out of toys yourself and haven't been able to afford domestics since they started getting priced like collectors items. If things are that bad for you you should be complaining about domestic toy pricing instead of wasting your energy thinking about imports and maybe buy some Jadas to support a company that genuinely doesn't overcharge its customers.
>>11218386>contarian nonsense to defend Japanese collector companies fucking over collectorsIt's not worth replying to every little one of your mental gymnastics, so I'll only reply to the ones that seem genuine>Link it>>11216068 >>11216127You really need to learn how to read. This shit is exactly why everything you say is mostly bullshit, because you have no idea what's going on. Including pic of what Hasbro can and can't produce according to their license they made with Marvel.>Do you mean how Hasbro took their ball and went home because they tried to cheat Trademark law but a precedent has already been set in the EU?No, i was talking about all the shit Hasbro closed down in the 90s and 00s. So your link really has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
>>11218412Neither of those posts mention that the reason that they have to rely on distributors like EE is because of the ridiculous MOQs that Hasbro sets. Both posts are about how they clear out local chain stores because it's cheaper than using a distributor. And you want to accuse me of needing to learn how to read? Get fucked you stupid wetback.>No, i was talking about all the shit Hasbro closed down in the 90s and 00s.And that never stopped Hasbro from distributing in Europe, so you are full of shit once again, you stupid spic.
>>11218336>Thanks ObamaI get the reference but it's so painfully dated that I have to wonder if you even know that there is a presidential election in a couple of days.
>>11218261Moq is the minimum amount hasbro can order from the factory without paying a penalty charge. Hasbro has accounts with smaller toy stores. That is how sifi had Magik up for preorder before the reissue was announced anywhere else, including EE
>>11218619Yeah, MoQ is the wrong term, but there is a minimum spend that you need to open a retail account with Hasbro, which was $10,000 back in the 2010s. But I just checked their retailer application form, and they've lowered it to $600. How the mighty have fallen. I guess business is so shit now that beggars can't be choosers anymore, and they'll accept anyone with a credit card and a few hundred bones.
>>11218646Wow that is a crazy drop. They really are desperate for anyone to order from them. 600 is definitely within the range of smaller stores but the older 10k would be a huge ask
>>11204110Do you really think it's zoomers who are overpaying so much for 80s and 90s memorabilia?
>>11218545>you didnt specifically say exactly thesame thing i said, so it doesn't count!oof, sure is arguing just to argue because you're offended someone pointed out that collector companies don't rape their customers anywhere but Japan (china's beginning to tho).Point of the matter is that i said that small businesses like comic shops don't order directly from Hasbro/Mattel/etc because they don't order enough. Some are so small they can't even order from distributors. I said this way before you and you probably heard me talk about this before on /toy/, because I'm pretty much the only person who even talks about the business side of things.Obviously, chain stores from other countries don't have this problem in ordering enough, so why are they so much more expensive? Oh, right, because shitty tarifs and regulations because they wanted to protect locally made goods, but because of so many regulations, they can't produce locally and now need to tax goods made elsewhere heavily to keep their government going.Nevermind Japan has no problem with this, hence western toys still being cheap... unless they're so good that collectors want them, so they raise the price on those... despite being cheapo budget children toys.>>11218588>bringing up a dead meme from long ago when obama hasn't even been in office for almost a decade isn't funnyshit taste, brah
>>11218400>Of course you think kids cant afford an import for a mere 22 bucksWhat imports are 22 bucks beyond candy toys and vinyls? You know damn well imports largely refers to shit like figuarts here and even imported ones at US retail start around$35. Shipping for a single figma for me was $30 alone this week
>>11218695>>11218646That had looong been a complaint, and Hasbro finally gave in to smaller businesses in the mid-10s, maybe late 10s.Was pretty noticeable when they lowered requirements, because now i could buy army builders easily at comic shops.
>>11220314>I said this way before you and you probably heard me talk about this before on /toy/, because I'm pretty much the only person who even talks about the business side of thingsThe absolute ego on this motherfucker. He thinks the only way a person could know a commonly known thing is because of him. Is this what Narcissistic Personality Disorder looks like?
>>11220314>shit taste, brahNah, just not stuck in the past.
When people talk about "army builders", how many do they usually get?
>>11220319The conversation was imports used to be cheap and domestics could be easily bought in stores. Now domestics cost more than imports used to and forget children, it seems even people like you have been priced out of buying domestic figures. The funny thing is despite you yourself being unable to justify the price of purchasing even the most basic of domestic toy slop, you instead choose to complain about imports ripping people off. Others like me can afford either but choose imports because they are just better products that easily justify the higher prices.
>>11220361a pair of 2 for special forces types4 guys for a gang6 or more for army type guys.
>>112203614-5
>>11220365>>11220366>>11220361depends on size and costs - I prefer more.
>>11220351>routinely need to explain "commonly known" shit for a decade+>notice barely anyone else does>ur egotistical!sure is nitpicker who is only arguing because I'm stating another commonly known fact that Japanese collector companies fuck collectors in the ass by charging 2-5x more than western collector companiesAlso, im the first anon to even read and post what the licenses toy companies make.>>11220319He's not making a serious argument. He's just pulling a "no u" because he's butthurt that i pointed out a lot of weeaboos on this board who receive autism bucks need to save up multiple government checks to afford a single import figure thanks to prices skyrocketing.This is probably why they'er so many trolls on this board now that cyberstalk anons, because they can afford to buy a toy or five every week and post about them on a /toy/ image board, and they can't.>>112203612-5 depending on the scale and character. And it's not as easy as that sounds, thanks to demand. Lately, companies like Hasbro and Joytoy have been releasing them as multipacks to make it easier. It's more common just to see redecos, which is still pretty hard to get.Pic of my buying a unique character and just pretending it's an army builder, because it's faceless and generic looking. Jazware's recent Halo line released ODST figures, but holy fuck, is it hard to find in stores because no one carries it and the only easy ODST figure to get is the one that comes packaged with a droppod, making it pretty expensive to army build... and i say "expensive" in a relative way, because I actually paid more for pic since i bought them 8 years later and secondary market prices were 5x more than its retail price (McFarlane's are twice the price of the Jazwares ODST with droppod which is twice the price of the single packed JAzwares Halo figure)
>>11220393>This is probably why they'er so many trolls on this board now that cyberstalk anons>"they'er">implying basic pattern recognition of a notorious thread-derailing autist is "cyberstalking"You could not make this guy up and nor would you want to.
>>11220362No I have no dog in this race,I mostly buy imports for the last few years. Just saying I don't think too many kids would be able to buy imports even 5 years ago. Figma prices started really inflating around 2017, and even before that there's not many kids who are going to be able to make regular $35-45 purchases(ironically the figma I imported is a gift for a kid, who does have import toys, but largely because of me)
>>11220393Now justify why McFarlane charged $60 plus postage for a 6" Spawn figure, Analdilationanon.
>>11220393Fuck what a sick lineup, wish I army built havoc and the dares when they were still avaliable. Who is 2nd from left?
>>11220396Thought you were subby my apologies. Would have been really affordable even for kids if using Mandarake back then but true. Most kids wouldn't know to use Mandarake and would rather be buying vidya games anyways. As a kid I spent what money I did save up on all those Mega Bloks Halo and Cod stuff.Maybe kids is the wrong thing to focus on. Whether young or old, its a pretty specific kind of person (autist) that collects action figures.
>>11220314Comic shops can't afford a 600 dollar order? Really? I don't buy it.
>>11220676Not every comic shop carries toys in great quantity.Granted, I really don't know anyone at comic shops now. Pre-COVID i was pretty friendly with a couple of managers, so my most of my knowledge comes from the 2010s. And other anons have spoken about their experiences as well>>11220560Second guy is a NEVEC trooper from the Lost Planet toyline by Toy Notch. Seriously one of the greatest quality toys I've ever handled. The smoothest joints ever, and I own figures from literally 99% of the toylines /toy/ talks about. Only the face paint apps on the real faces are completely borked, but most figures are just masked and they look amazing. The figures feel like they're expertly machined metal equipment, because their tolerances are perfect. I think i only bought two NEVEC troopers, but i could be wrong. I was just casually buying the Lost Planet figures just to fill in space for free shipping, but i wish i had bought more. I really only wanted the Hardballer mech you see in the back, but eventually bought everything (more than once with army builders). You can see one of my Lost Planet pirates in the back, next to Sub Zero.... and sadly, their mecha wasn't as nice. Granted, it's a foot tall so it's more difficult to engineer, but it was delayed for over a year and switched factories>>11220395Your reading comprehension a shit, third worlder. Was talking about how there's multiple anons being cyberstalked and trolled because they're the few anons left on this board who regularly post their buys. Poorfags are seemingly angry they can afford to buy toys on a regular basis, whereas before we used to have regular threads of people showing off their latest purchases. You really can't do that anymore, which lines up with how much costs have risen for toys.But i really love how your argument has moved this far, when it all started from japanese toy companies love raping their collectors by charging 2-5x more than western companies for the same quality figures
>>11220314>>bringing up a dead meme from long ago when obama hasn't even been in office for almost a decade isn't funnyAt least you're self aware.
>>11221635>complaining about being "cyberstalked" and "trolled" on 4chanMaybe Reddit would be more your speed.
>>11221635>Poorfags are seemingly angry they can afford to buy toys on a regular basisSays the poorfag that's angry that anons can afford to buy Japanese figures>japanese toy companies love raping their collectors by charging 2-5x more than western companies for the same quality figuresAnd yet you remain silent on McFarlane's $60 Spawn Kickstarter any time it's been brought up.
>>11222831Not him but the 60 dollar Medieval Spawn is definitely a cut above regular McFarlanes or 40-50 dollar megafigs from McFarlane in paint, sculpting and accessory count. I'd argue the megafigs are actually the worst value given their size comes with extreme articulation deficiencies.Articulation, from what was shown off in a very controlled manner by Todd, it may be a bit better and less limited, but I'd be skeptical as articulation engineering is a manner of brainpower and McFarlane's designers have not showed their capability in articulation engineering very often.
>>11223159I'll agree that the paint is better than a standard McFarlane, but that's not enough for the $60 price tag. And since he treated most of the weapons as stretch goals, or "free stuff" as the dumb Canadian fuck calls them because he can't wrap his micro brain around stretch goals, I'm cancelling them out. As for the articulation, I have the same doubts as you, plus add the fact that the plastic cape will hinder the articulation. It's funny that he had the foresight to make the cape removable, but you still need to leave the chain clasp attached or have two gaping holes in the chest because Todd is a fucking retard that still hasn't figured out how to design toys properly after 30 years in the business.
>>11223159>I'd argue the megafigs are actually the worst value given their size comes with extreme articulation deficiencies.Give what we know about molding action figures, the megafigures are the next step when molding suddenly becomes much more expensive.We know that McFarlane prided himself in producing that one Doomsday figure and fitting it inside the normal wave, so that's was the maximum height a figure can be before the costs scale up.So a 7.9" figure is able to cost the same as a 7.5", but when it's a tenth of an inch bigger, that cost can be 2x more. We see that with a lot of other products, including shipping services. And i don't mean literally being 2x more, just that the costs don't scale with that 5% height/weight increase. The costs jump up significantly. So not only does the packaging/shipping need to change, but how many molds it needs to use also changes. Is it more value? Nope, but that's just how shit works. They're basically like vehicles, which also usually have higher prices despite their size not scaling with their cost. I think only motorcycles are ever value priced... usually.Oh, and that guy's a retarded troll. He's comparing apples to oranges. Limited shit being sold directly to consumers is going to cost much more than if sold to ten thousand retailers due to economies of scale.Obviously, weeaboos are ignorant and trying their best to defend having their asses raped by Japanese collector companies just comes off as retarded.
>>11223970>Limited shit being sold directly to consumers is going to cost much more than if sold to ten thousand retailers due to economies of scale>economies of scale>economies of scaleAnd yet you compare Marvel Legends figures with production numbers to meet (and oversupply) worldwide demand to SHF Toku figures that have a much smaller audience, much lower demand, and thus much smaller production runs.You absolute fucking mongoloid.
>>11224003>ignorant weeaboo gets proven wrong>needs to create new argument and proves how retarded he is to deflect the fact japanese collector companies are bending him overlol How are you even able to post when you've clearly proven you're illiterate?here's the actual comparison i made with children toylines like MLs/DC/Fortnite/etc >>11205607 . Note there's no mention of Figuarts.Here's when i actually compared a SHF to its western equivalent >>11204472
>>11224008>Still trying to pretend DCC's bootleguarts were anything other than trash
>>11223970>$250 for two $20 figures, $20 of furniture, and a bunch of useless tatWhy does Todd rape his fans harder than any Japanese company?
>>11234797Is the notebook at least real? Like it has lined paper that you can actually write on?
