Previous: https://boards.4chan.org/toy/thread/11889105/gi-joe-military-general-september-price-increase#bottomOut now:>Snowcat HASLABOctober 1:>Deep Six >Legacy Avalanche Rescue>Dusty and Sandstorm>Grand Slam with HAL>Lara Croft>Falcon retro cardback>Cobra Valkyrie retro cardback>Slaughter's Marauders Mutt, Junkyard, and Footloose>Flash retro cardback>red SNAKE armorNovember 1:>Snake Eyes/Varmint vs Stealth Viper/Trouble Bubble>Clutch with Desert VAMP>Iceberg>Toxo-Viper>rugged Duke>Synapse>Range Viper>Mistress ArmadaDecember 1:>Cobra Commander with Cobra throneUnknown release dates:>made-to-order Arctic HISS>Cobra Arctic 3-pack>Thunder Machine (fall made-to-order)>Sgt. Slaughter with Triple-T>DIRE HawkSuper7 out now:>Cobra Commander Ninja Force>Snake Eyes Ninja Force>Tiger Force Wild BillSuper7 out now:>Tiger Force Wild Bill>Ninja Force Snake Eyes>Ninja Force Cobra Commander>Ninja Force DestroSuper7 unknown release dates:>Zartan (color-change)>Deep Six>Lady Jaye (cartoon colors)>Cobra Viper Gunner>Trouble Bubble with Cobra trooper>Python Patrol Trouble Bubble with Cobra trooper>Fatal fluffies 3-pack>Arctic Shipwreck>Flint>Arctic Baroness>Tiger Force Jinx>SNAKE armor
Scarlett and T'Jbang in stock : https://www.target.com/p/g-i-joe-classified-series-212-ninja-force-scarlett-and-t-39-jbang/-/A-94977260
>>11907540His real name should be TJ Bang, not Sam LaQuale.
There was a new Super7 interview>There's a third army builder 3-pack coming to BigBadToyStore some time soon.>There's another comic-pack coming, but it's not a figure based off issue #3. It's a later issue and the figure is a deeper cut it sounds like.>The pack-in comics will start having more unique content like the first issue to encourage people to collect the reprints.>There will be at least 3 comic-packs a year, likely based on how well they do.>Next year they'll put out tons of figures connected to the movie's 40th Anniversary. >There's another vehicle next year, and it's been described as a classic vehicle, but at the same time something that hasn't been made before. Unsure if that means a Sunbow version of a classic vehicle, such as the Hiss Tank, or if it's something movie related, because they did discuss the movie.>Wants to do all the winter outfits for the movie characters.>Ninja Force is an on-going Target exclusive line, that was originally going to be a Super7 website exclusive. However Target wanted even more store exclusives because Joe is selling so well, that they're doing both Ninja Force and Tiger Force/Python Patrol.>Ninja Force is sort of treated like TMNT where it's all about what if different characters had had ninja versions during the 90's.>The upcoming Snake Armor is an articulated figure and doesn't hold a figure inside. It's based off how in the cartoon they were used as robots. >There will be something new shown off for NYCC as part of Walmart's online event; likely a new Walmart exclusive.>Visionaries sold extremely well, however Hasbro made them put the line on hold, because there's a rights dispute on the license, perhaps because of all the shared universe stuff Hasbro's been doing. It sounds like it'll eventually be resolved, but no idea when.>They're also trying to make Inhumanoids, but there's a major license dispute with it, since Hasbro let the IP die.
>>11907866A few more things to add:>Kwinn and Raven are in the works in the line, it's just a matter of where to fit them in, because of how many different areas of the brand they're focusing on with limited character slots per wave.>Army builder 3-packs will also be based on a previous single carded released figure, so the next one would either have to be Comic-book B.A.T., Hydro Viper or Viper Gunner. This is to ensure that single carded collectors will not need to buy the 3-packs. So no Sunbow B.A.T. or Cobra Trooper until they have a single carded release.>Let slip that the Fatal Fluffy set originally contained a small Fluffy figure.
It's... beautiful
>>11907540How nice of them after cancelling fuckloads of pre-orders.
>>11907866>Wants to do all the winter outfits for the movie characters.Well Destro, Snake Eyes, and Scarlett are done, and we already know about Shipwreck and Baroness that they're ignoring because they don't want us pissed at them for releasing in fucking India months before the US.
>>11907970
>>11908258>>11908259>>11908260I don't get why they're fixated on that when there's a whole lot of regular figures that they still haven't done yet.
>>11907540already spent 109 bucks on some chinese one
>>11908280>when there's a whole lot of regular figures that they still haven't done yet.They specifically say in the interview when road-mapping the line that no two Joe fans want the same thing, so they're spreading things out a little in each wave. In past interviews they said they treated Reaction+ as a continuation of Reaction, so they weren't in a hurry to revisit core characters immediately during the first year, which is why it focused so hard on movie characters, because that's where Reaction left off. They said some people also want characters that were never produced, or ideas for cancelled figures from the vintage line, or comic-book versions, or core characters, or major characters in alternate outfits. Or brand new concepts like Ninja Force Destro. They said for example they're doing Kwinn and Raven, and the rest of Cold Slither, and they have to produce tie-ins with the 40th Anniversary of the Joe movie, so it only leaves so many character slots per wave to try and and make it appeal a little to everyone. The line's moving really quick, but I could stand to see a few more core versions of characters. We're only just now getting Shipwreck and Flint, but they're only overseas right now. >>11907970Brian Flynn said in the interview that he wants to have all the Cobra characters in their winter gear, like the Dreadnoks and Dr. Mindbender.
I picked up several GI Joe's at Collectibles Extravaganza this weekend. Here is a V9 CG.
>>11908309
At last, the real Cobra Commander
oh god, lol. they really should have sculpted new legs for this poor guy instead of reusing the wolf legs.
my alley viper is going through some pain right now please pray for him
>>11908402Well, the better Alley Viper is still whole, at least.
Some people already have the new wave in from China, yet there's very few good pics of the figures.
>>11908259If Super 7 was smart they'd make Movie Dial Tone and Main Frame
>>11908463I saw the new Ninja Force figures at Target yesterday. I was surprised to see them already, since I live in the midwest, and they only seemed to be trickling into the west coast last I knew.Though, I didn't pick either of them up, since the paint was kinda bad on both of them.
>>11908393I canceled my preorder when I saw how the dog looked
>>11908474How customizable are these fuckers? Can you unscrew and swap heads like old school Oring Joes?
>>11908487You can swap the heads with vintage for the most part. Early figures had swivel necks but now they’re mostly ball neck.
>>11908518Quick Kick with Street Fighter Ryu's legs.
>>11908463I'm so pissed that YoJoe.com is done since I can't see all of the new figures being made in an archived format.
>>11908578Well whoever owned the site sold it to a data-harvesting company, and they have the emails and other data to everyone who used to go there. So fuck them. They know they messed up.
>>11908407Kek, this. Jokes aside, easy fix. At least it wasn't a Ninja Force or Mortal Kombat figure.
>>11908390wake me when they recolor him in black and silver
To the anon asking about Valaverse The Black, he's getting a reissue and another 100 chase variant.
>>11909074Not sure if it'll only be available at the expo or just randomly with the online orders.
Mainframe #178 showed up at one of my local Ross stores today, they only had the one and it wasn't a neighborhood I am in regularly so I grabbed it. But given that Walmart had if for as little as $20 and a pal mentioned he had gotten a yellow tagged one in Denver for $10, I suspect more will show up. Was too tired then and am too lazy now to take a photo.Y'all know what Blaine looks like and what a Ross receipt looks like.
Has anyone's Lara from Amazon shipped yet? Mine still says tomorrow and I have a few other things also coming tomorrow too but they've been shipped already, Lara hasn't yet. She's been coming in and out of stock for pre order over the past few weeks so I don't think I should be that concerned. Should I?
>>11909346I don't think anyone's gotten one from Amazon yet, the ones showing up are from Pulse or found in Walmart stores. Hopefully they aren't prioritizing later orders and screwing over people that got it for the original cheaper price
Is Dio dead yet?
>>11909434LEGENDS NEVER DIE
This isn't quite GI Joe, but it does go with the O-ring line. And I think it's cool as shit.
Is it just me or do the shoulder joints on this guy look terrible? They look so obvious like he's a robot rather than a human.
>>11909539better articulation, engineering, paint apps and accessories. You have to have a trade off somewhere for that.
>>11909539Yeah it looks awful
>>11909539I can see what they're doing with trying to fix the problem with arms not being able to go down straight.
>>11909626so many other lines have fixed that problem without looking this bad though
>>11909658Hasbro hasn't. They're not even trying.
Ramen Toys General Lee 2.0 just went up. $270 for the car and all three figures is pretty good.
Emily (big girl from the early hasbro joe videos) was let go in hasbro's latest round of layoffs
>>11909539I just got one of their 1.5 wave figures and was honestly kind of surprised to find out it actually was supposed to be a robot. Didn't notice it in the pics and it wasn't until I saw the faceplate swapping gimmick. But after seeing the bot head, the arms and legs both jumped out at being mechanical. Still a cool figure with lots of motion. Feels way different from a Classified figure, but I don't know if it's a good or bad kind of different. I got their Bob on order, so hopefully he turns out just as nice as the first wave ones. Also, related to robots, I *finally* got my Arctic BAT pre-order into my PoL. Damn thing took literal years to actually get rerun, but I guess this is the year to rerelease an Arctic figure. Still sad the three pack Arctic Cobra figures are just straight repaints with no new/mixed parts to make them actually feel arctic equipped. Had they actually done something interesting with them I might not have cancelled my Arctic HISS pre-order. >>11909745Seems like her entire position was just excised, a lot of em were. I don't see the big move their doing as something that will work out in the long run for Hasbro, and the downsizing certainly isn't a good sign.
>>11909734And $50 shipping and no payment options
>>11909745i don't run a multibillion dollar company but I would think the half dozen people you put on livestreams should probably the last people you ever lay off as it makes people quickly recognize how badly things must be going for the rest of your company
>>11909793Looks like she was promoted out of her job. She hasn't been on a livestream in a while because she was given a higher position, and they probably axed it along with other middle management jobs that are easy to get rid of in a layoff.
>>11909745Good. That's what she gets for asking about pronouns.
>>11909745Hasbro on their way to be the SONY of the toy world. They've already stated they're pulling back on toys and trying to focus more on videogames and entertainment. At least they aren't stingy with licensing they IPs. Would be funny if Hasbro completely stops making GI Joe classified figures and license it to BOSS Fight or some other indy toy maker. They alreay letting S7 do the o-rings and JoyToy the 1/18 surper articulated GI Joes.
>>11909946>JoyToy the 1/18 surper articulated GI Joesdon't you mean Hiya or did Hiya lose the license?That's really shit if Hasbro really cockblocked Hiya from releasing GI Joes in North America for 3 years and suddenly allowed another company to do that, especially since Hiya's figures are so great.
Does anyone make a cock holding hand for the figures. You know to the barrels without fucking up the grip ones. I know legends females always have one.
>>11909446This is cool as shit. I might have to give it to Super7. They're doing good work.
>>11909974Hiya fucked Hiya since they sat on like five/six figures while raking in preorder money for about three years while pathetically begging to let the do a global release instead of sticking to the terms of their contract. Hasbro should have voided the deal on the spot
>>11910040>hiya never should have tried to get the north american licensefuck you, retard.This is why their figures ended up being fucking $30-40 (before shipping) instead of $20.And fuck Hasbro for being too afraid of their Classified sales being even lower if they allowed Hiya to release their 1:18 GI Joe line to be sold in the only market place that matters.
>>11909346Kek mine just got "do you still want this order?" 'd. Not sure whats going on. Green Goblin delayed too.
>>11910044And why should people fucking sit with nothing while they waste their money on hookers and blow than delivering the figured people already fucking bought at import price, when they damn well knew they'd never be able to sell them at domestic retail?Those faggots should have had the license revoked then and there as they knew the god damn terms of the deal, knew that they were still going to reach America anyway as import, but decided to fuck the customer over with no lube stealing their cash while not delivering the fucking figures. Scam artists all around and should have had their company wholesale nuked from orbit destroyed by Hasbro for breach of contract to send a lesson to not scam GI Joe fans like they did
>>11910101This. >>11910044 is just a poor fag not realizing that he was going to get wallet raped anyway as far as honestly thinking this company full of grifters was going to charge $10 or less for these shitty inferior bootleg figures
At the least we can see what direction the DIRE line will eventually lead to. With them repurposing the Rattler gunner as "Dire Hawk," I suspect Rattler Baroness will be repurposed for the line too.
>>11910162From the last topic
>>11909745was/were
>>11910062Mine did too. I think it'll be fine, just delayed.
>>11909946Getting into games now is stupid. It costs up to $300 million and takes up to a decade to make a single game. They should have taken it more seriously in the late 90s when a game studio could produce a premium title yearly and relatively cheaply.
>>11909745Good. She shouldn't have been the brand manager for something she clearly wasn't a big fan of. Maybe with her, Tony, and the other guy out of the way, they'll start being more responsive to what fans want to give them our money for instead of continuing the "we do what we want and we'll maybe eventually get something you like out."We're in year 7 of the line, and the year's catalog is decided. No Firebat, polar battle bear, moccasin, and other stuff that should have been no-brainers. All we can hope is that year 8 rewards the patience.
>>11910101>And why should people fucking sit with nothing while they waste their money on hookers and blowthis is exactly why I call you a RETARD.Hiya didn't waste anyone's money, because they completed everyone's orders... except for retailers in north america, because these retailers who went through official distributors overseas were cockblocked by Hasbro. Almost every store orders through distributors, because only giants like Target and Walmart have the capacity to order directly from toy makers and only if toy makers are large enough to have distribution capacities, which Hiya doesn't have.You keep talking about "importing" but you're fucking clueless about how that works, since most retailers just deal with official distributors. Retailers don't just order shit as easily as retards like you do from Amazon or Walmart, but they sign contracts with distributors and they need to make MINIMUM orders. Since Hasbro was cockblocking reputable distributors from sending Hiya figures to North America, that means north american stores would need to order shit shady distributors that they didn't have accounts with and then they'd need to order OTHER shit to reach minimum requirements, despite undoubtedly getting better prices for imports from distributors who don't have Hasbro cockblocking them.Yes, local (read: north american stores) stores import shit, so i rarely deal with shitty oversea shipping So Hiya still made their toys, but since GI Joe isn't popular outside of North America, FEWER TOYS WERE MADE, and i don't mean they only made 20k figures. i mean the amount of characters that could be made into toys was diminished from weak demand. So they COULD have released a figure every single month if they hadn't been cockblocked by Hasbro>b-b-but i didn't get my toys immediately when they went up for preorderfuck you, retard. fucking zoomer, with no attention span and your need for immediate gratification. literal behavior of retards.
>>11910334>that pictureIf you pay cheap shipping or get free shipping from China, then that's what you get, bro. Chang's not gonna knock himself out without you covering the cost for it.
>>11910233fun fact: i used to email the president of Hasbro Interactive in the late 90s.Hasbro used to make shittyass video games, mostly board and puzzle games, and i used to coordinate video game related stuff for an internet community that later started doing shit for TV.So Hasbro used to be balls deep with video games until the mid-00s. Since they made mostly shovelware, this is likely why they also eventually stopped making games, because people eventually stopped buying their shit.
>>11910340I remember their games, especially the shitty arcade-type GI Joe shit. And they did that right in the middle of MGS, Syphon Filter, Splinter Cell, and others when paramilitary games were peak popularity. It was mind-blowing levels of clusterfuck wasted opportunities. Now it's expensive in terms of both time and money.
>>11910335>free>from overseasSorry, but i've never shopped at alibaba or whatever cheapass places desperate poorfags use. Not my photo, btw.And sometimes you're not even given a choice in shipping, because the shop does so little in overseas shipping or maybe too lazy to do better.I once had a fucking Russian shop ship a large toy in a fucking plastic bag and the only padding was the open window cardboard packaging. A fucking miracle the toy was undamaged once it go to me a month later.Seriously, i'd rather pay a couple bucks extra to buy from a local importer than deal with overseas shipping and all the crappy extra steps.In the case of Hiya, I wish they had official north American distribution, so i could get prices that are 50-75% cheaper, free shipping, and a wider selection of figures, but nooooope, fucking Hasbro is afraid that people would choose the superior 1:18 line over their already poor selling Classified 1:12 line
>No fatties no trannies no beardos no weirdos, no wimps.
>>11910430this beardo getting fired too?
Pretty cool week for me, I had to stop collecting but I do still buy the occasional figure and this week I got Airtight and the Major Bludd re release. I had every intention on getting the hooded Commander but I sat and thought about it and just said I really do not want a throne that badly since I don't really have any joes on display and $70 is a lot of money for a true blue poor fag. So I cancelled the pre order and got Airtight and Bludd for under $55, now I've at least got the core of Cobra leadership. Idk if you guys talk about the TMNT/gi Joe cross over figures but I think they are nice figures, Shredder is kinda meh but Slash and Krang are cool. I think Krang should've been a bit bigger and had a briefcase but still, decent crossover figures.
>>11908283VF?
>>11908368I loved this series. Idk if it's a figure you want for your collection but Scalpel was a really cool figure.
>>11910434No way. Duke is too good of a door kicker to get rid of.
>>11908578I just checked 3djoes and they don't cover classified either. Lame
>>11910439I do not know what that means
>>11910545that the mcfarlane one?
got the retro carded Valk in today and man it makes me want to get another to keep this one in its card it looks so good.
>>11910545Nice.
>>11910101retard
>>11910430Nice Duke Closet-Anon
>>11910915Who's Closet Anon? I think you have me confused with someone else. I was once referred to as neca display anon in the Marvel threads because I have the NECA street diorama.
>>11911050that's kinda sad if the street diorama is now rare on /toy/ if you're being confused with that one guy.The state of /toy/ just being third worlders trolling that even the GI Joe threads are that way.
>>11910040I can't believe we can get 20 dollar kenner looking GI Joe toys from ReAction (now they look better), but we cant get local Hiya figures. Hasbro are shitheads and hopefully they do license out their stuff now.
She's peak
Well, hopefully grid iron is working on an upgrade for the front. This still looks like shit in real life.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRH6IF2aaDY
Wave 2 of Super7’s 250th Joes has leaked.
>>11911795>Thrasher will come at the end of next yearI would have though he'd come out earlier than that so you'd have him at the same time as the thunder machine.
>>11911641
Will fit right in when I add some gear on him and trigger finger hands. Still would like Ninja Force Ryu, Shunli and Ken though.
>>11911816with the way hasbro releases shit lately end of the year seems to mean september anyway
>>11911863Well that's pretty much when the res of the year's catalog is known for the most part. I do remember last year with the retro-card BAT that wasn't previously revealed or announced just suddenly coming out of nowhere in the last couple of weeks of December.
>Snowcat is out>no one's talking about it like they did with the Dragonfly, HISS, and RattlerI guess it was super-exciting, huh?
>>11912124It was a ho-hum vehicle with a climate-specific deco in the ARAH line, and it's the same in the Classified line, just bigger. Probably just not in a lot of hands yet, though. They'll post eventually.
>>11912146Most vehicles excluding aircraft are climate-specific. That's apparently why Hasbro has been reluctant to give us any boat in this scale.
>>11911808Just give us a black Snake Eyes already.
>>11912250>Snake Eyes will be black in Avengers Doomsday
>>11911641I don't even like the Ninja Force shit, but she looks like a fantastic figure and I just want her because of how good she looks.>>11912150Well considering the last 1:12 boat Hasbro put out rotted on shelves and hit discounts of up to 80% off at places like Amazon despite it being a *really* good toy, I can see why they'd hesitate to put out any more.That said, even during the ME stuff, they didn't put out many boats. Just a handful of Moccasin repaints and some micro-sub deluxe sets that could also count as aircraft. The vast majority of naval craft I have at 1:18 came from the True Heroes or World Peacekeepers lines. Boats are rarely a priority for G.I. Joes.
>Lara Croft with eye-bulging action!Gotta love face printing and how the tech hasn't notably improved or gotten more consistent after nearly a decade
>>11912124Mine hasn't even shipped yet.
>>11912467Mine is currently in Amazon limbo with no shipping date anymore so consider yourself lucky. Checked one of my local Walmarts too, and while they were stuffed with Joes, they didn't have Lara.
>>11912498I also got mine from Amazon, was expecting a delay like everyone else but was surprised it shipped and arrived so soon. I've seen the posts finding them in Walmart so I may go looking for some to find a better print.
>>11912467>M-M-M-MAGGIE!
Guess amazon is just never restocking them? I'm getting the 3p which will be better but wanted the joe one as well
>>11912504Lucky, I may go out and hit another Walmart later today or tomorrow. I through a waitlist order on BBTS just in case but I'm kinda nervous with what's going on.
>>11912514>Lucky, I may go out and hit another Walmart later today or tomorrow.Their site does tell you which store has what if you use the "local pickup" option.
>>11913397It's usually hit or miss on whether or not that actually works, at least in my experience. My Amazon order did update with a Dec 1st estimated delivery date, but they also said she's shipped and there's a tracking number. No actual updates to the tracking number, so who knows.
Got action man in, was hoping for his regular face with no hat to look more like tom cruise.
Made some modifications to my Techno Viper, getting rid of hid bulky wristbands . Also put his handgun in his hands instead of his weird ass welding laser. Looks more like a dark romance chad that is secretly a huge computer geek like this....
A resounding meh, sadly
>>11914042A Classified Lara would look better with pants and sleeves to better blend in the articulation points.
My Lara from Amazon shipped. I should get her tomorrow. Not sure what the weird half week delay was. But glad that she didn't get cancelled.
>>11914042why meh? Is it the Lara I want? no. but it's still at least ok.
>>11914042It's the best we have. All the other good TR figures are statues.
>>11914042All they had to do was include a classic PS1 head and it would have been great.
>>11914692And fix the scrawny arms, and the ugly elbow joints, and the boxy waist, and the diaper ass, and the obscene price tag
>>11914042Oh no... What's wrong?
Snake eyes 2 Pack in stock at target.com. Says I'll get mine tomorrow.
>>11914044So just turn her into Lady Jaye?
>>11914782Thames Wharf LaraNevada desert LaraArctic LaraStealth suit LaraRussian base LaraBut CD won't allow that. Their focus is "unified Lara" that's Nu-Lara with one of classic Lara's clothes but with Nu-Lara trilogy accessories. I'm surprised that they even allow the TR2 dagger of Xian to be included because of it.
>>11914019What the fuck is a Techno Viper supposed to be anyway?
>>11914993They are SUPPOSED to be the grease monkeys, the garage/shop guys, pit crew and mechanics who fix and repair Cobra vehicles.But in practice, they are actually treated as the evil computer/IT geeks of Cobra, in part because Hama got lazy and put them behind computers because "Techno=Computers" in peoples minds and their outfits being the exact opposite of what any self respecting chad thundercock mechanic would wear.
>>11914997All mechanics wear some silly little outfit.
>>11915001The Cobra Rattler pit crew was pretty bad-ass while still being realistic. And they didn't look like Darth Vader's gay brother.
>>11915035I don't know what they look like but they probably look realistic. You know this is a toy line right?
>>11915044They manage to look realistic while still looking "Cobra."
>>11915049Shit dammit I forgot the photo. Derp.
>>11914997>They are SUPPOSED to be the grease monkeys, the garage/shop guys, pit crew and mechanics who fix and repair Cobra vehiclesThe Sunbow cartoon had these guys instead.
>>11914997I don't get this hang up.Just because the Technoviper showed up in one or five scenes doing some computer shit doesn't mean that they're not greasemonkeys.They can multi-role, such as this scene where he's giving advice on a seige.They're combat engineers and since Cobra has advanced (then) fururistic equipment, they need to know a lot about computers. So why not put them at the computers when there's nothing to fix? It's not like they're robots who can only be tasked with a single job. Even in video games, you can task Zerg drones and SCVs to do scouting jobs or even a bumrush to slow down an attack.
>>11915057These are Techno Vipers without their official uniforms on, because they don't need their armored helmets and bulletproof vests when working on the planes in the safetfy of an airfield.
>>11914993A Techno Viper. Just like a Tele Viper is a Tele Viper. It's not hard to understand, their job title explains their role and purpose.
>>11915189So what's the rock viper's job?
>>11915217Mountainous terrain-focused light infantry, akin to the German Alpenkorps, Gebirgsjäger and US Army's 10th Mountain Division.
Got her. She's probably the most hyped figure of the year isn't she?
>>11915296Still dig Rugged Duke, probably just because it's Duke but if he were a current day operator. It's been a good week for toys.
>>11915296she looks a lot better in peoples hands than the photos hasblow took
>>11915298Are we meant to not like Rugged Duke
>>11915343It's a lazy attempt to do an Image Duke without giving that fail and AIDS rape of the franchise explicit publicity.
>>11915343Rather have a new Duke figure with just a mustache and no facial scar. At least then you can present him as a new character if you want or use the head for a custom
>>11915343Should've just been a Resolute Duke instead.
>>11915304>hasblow you sound like a fag
>>11915487you brought it up
>>11915487You sound mad
>>11915495>>11915519>he relied twicei didn't bring anything up faggot
>>11915538
>>11915296I'd argue that the most hyped figure of the year is hooded Cobra Commander.
>>11915560I dunno. She crashed BBTS when she went up, has been sold out ever since and is like impossible to find. I went out to two different stores looking for her and other various new releases, and came across collectors at both places looking for her. It's wild.
>>11915560>>11915565Yeah it wasn't even close. Hooded CC did have years of buildup with rumors of not even being on the table, but Lara broke the fandom barrier and has people who don't give two shits about GI Joe buying her. Funny that both of of them were recognized as big hitters and were packed with extra shit to bump their price up.
Got a little package from Bad Mother Tattoos and Customs. Really impressed with the resolution on the decals, and the magazine is great.>"There's no way those are real, right?">"I dunno, if those are bolt-ons then Cobra must have the best plastic surgeons in the world...say, why aren't I in this magazine?"
>>11915565Hooded CC pre-orders sold out damn near instantly, and Hasbro previously stating that they'll never do a hooded version only made the fanbase want him even more.>>11915587The weird thing is I can imagine Baroness doing that just to spite serial-cheater Destro. She already manipulated the Joes into destroying his ancestral home because of his cheating.
>>11915572I remember when they had that Baron Zemo figure with a hood and a crown and everyone joked the only reason Hasbro released a hooded Marvel Legends figure was because it had a crown over the hood. I do wonder now
Here's your new drednok medic, Flatline. Don't notice.
>>11915762>Hasbro making GI Joe villains a walking millenial humor parodyI hate the "Surgery for Dummies" crotch ornament and the "veterinarian" patches. They could've had a cool design without those and kept the terrible jokes in his bio instead.
>>11915783Get some nail polish remover and snip off the book then. Easy fix
>>11915790The worst thing to remove would be the red gameboy molded to his belt. I wanna keep the belt but removing the gameboy would basically destroy it.
>>11915783Cringe dad jokes man. Looks like if Uncle John's Bathroom Reader Book became a person.>>11915794Looks like it'll just pop off I doubt they wasted red paint on that
>>11915783>>Hasbro making GI Joe villains a walking millenial humor parodyYou must be new to GI Joe young one. It has always been a joke with the dreadnoks.
>>11915783Surgery for dummies is going too far. Failed veterinary becoming a evil surgeon I dont mind though. But I want Classifed Eco Warriors so...
>>11915799Its more boomer humor man if anything. Yeah he has a Gameboy but GAME OVER gives it away
>>11915790Books a separate piece, no clipping required. Is that an improvised defibrillator running off an 18V or 20V battery? That's kind of hilarious.
>>11915799The Dreadknoks don't WEAR THE JOKE LABEL on their clothes like a political comic strip.>>11915801I have nothing wrong with his backstory but stamping it on his clothes is retarded.
>>11915807The defib power tool is cool. Also the belt loop holding the book needs to go.
Hey check your Lara. She's supposed to come with a little black string to use as a climbing rope with her hook and handle but mine didn't have it in the box. Checked everywhere and I didn't have it. Looking at reviews, half of them seemingly have the little rope, and half don't. Good fucking job Hasbro, at least it's something I can easily make.
>>11915762why do all the new characters they make look like they are out of overwatch or some other hero shooter? Is it that hard to make ones that fit in with other joes?
>>11915814Do you not remember how this line started, anon?
Got my Jaye and shebang from China. They look great, too bad I had to pay over 100 after shipping though. Fuck you target.
>>11915810>but stamping it on his clothes is retardedIt means he never stopped using the equipment from when he was just a veterinary
I like the implication that if they stop concentrating the green part of their wings disappear and they just die
Is this the most farcical card or have there been more comical ones I dont remember
>>11915762Who asked for this?
>>11915842Me
>>11915762>Milleville>not SpringfieldWhoever came up with that doesn't know GI Joe tropes and lore>>11915838I like that figure and like the DIRE line, but that file card is retarded.
>>11915853Not everything has to be related to springfield
>>11915853>but that file card is retarded.I dunno, seems on par with like, a Night Viper
>>11915836Kinda like how Thrasher uses his old lacrosse gear as armor and weapons. Dreadnoks are suppose to be walking parodies, that why they're fun. These new joe fans just don't get it. They're all hooked on modern interpretations and every has to be ho-hum serious business.
>>11915866The bikers who drink grape soda have to be serious business also the way the new comics depicted them as serious business was bad
While, I would prefer an official collab, these movie figures are close enough to incorporate into my Classified figures. I got plenty of spare gear and hands for them.
>>11915908Guile, like Savage Land Professor X before him, is a head sculpt and few accessories from a decent trooper kitbash. I'd probably do some paint work on the boots, too.Now that I look at him, Bison would be a fine start to a General Blitz from Sgt. Savage custom.
>>11915895You're missing the obvious.At first glance, they look like a serious biker gang.At second glance, they're Mad Max wannabes and Mad Max was a pretty serious movie series. Despite some weird armor choices and a few goofy scenes, they're supposed to look like serious threats.It's only when you get into the lore that you understand that they're a joke.This figure, right off the bat is LOL SO RANDUM XD. The saw, the gas mask, the book for dummies, and then the vet bumper sticker. It's completely ridiculous.Even a Fortnite character looks less goofy and that's been the overall trend with modern GI Joe, because they put Transfags in charge of the line.It's no wonder the line has been struggling since day one.
>>11915762I think he's fun. And the book will make a great accessory for photos, too.
>>11915861It's GI Joe. Yes it does.
>>11915972Did you mean to post a picture that proved your point instead of hurt it
>>11916011>over the top action = LOL LAMO XDi see we have Hasbro's ex-head designer posting on /toy/I'm glad Hasro fired 90% of their GI Joe team. If GI Joe continues after next year, i hope they hire someone who's read a GI Joe comic before instead of another transfag designer.
>>11916017The Bart Simpsons hair with a Flintstone vest isn't as menacing now as in the 80s
>subjectanon seething that GI Joe is TOTALLY SERIOUS BUSINESS GUYS and also whining about Transformers for some reason
>>11916017Not him, but I have high hopes for next year. I hope to see more hits instead of another year of "you have to buy the shit you don't want if you want the line to continue to maybe eventually get to what you do want" like we've had years of.
>>11916017This makes it seem like if the new guy was a drawing in a cool action pose you'd be fine with it
>>11916030Are you buying everything?Can we see your collection
>>11916029why are you even in this thread? The ex head GI Joe guy used to work in the Transformers department and it was pretty obvious that the GI Joe department had little knowledge about GI Joe since Classified started.I mean, i get it, Hasbro wanted to relaunch GI Joe for a new generation, but it was miserable for everyone (Hasbro and fans) until they started nostalgiafagging it up and even then, it barely kept the lights on.>>11916032are you purpsoely missing the point this badly or is there another ex-GI Joe designer posting on /toy/?>>11916030I always hope for the best, but fuck if it's impossible to not point out the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.
>>11916043>why are you even in this thread?'Cuz I like GI Joe.>The ex head GI Joe guy used to work in the Transformers department OK, and? There's always been a lot of crossover between Transformers and GI Joe. They were sister brands in the 80s and IIRC the comics even crossed over.>and it was pretty obvious that the GI Joe department had little knowledge about GI Joe since Classified started.Citation needed.
>>11916047you're an obvious newfag and your wikipedia konwledge is also obvious (post a 50th or before era toy to prove you're not).The fact is, you're missing the point of what made GI Joe so popular for decades.Shit like the cartoon was silly retarded dreck, but the designs/toys themselves were tacticool awesomeness. You can completely ignore how retarded teh cartoon was and have a serious business paramilitary toyline. Even when their shit wasn't tacticool and introduced sillier characters, the designs themselves weren't silly. .. most times. There's a reason why Cobra La and dumber characters were hated for so long. Even then, most of the designs aren't any worse than something you saw out of an XMEn comic (Which are seen as cool/edgy/drama).Transformers is far less serious, inherently so due to the whacky combinations and out of scaleness, but when GI Joe crossed over with TF, the designs didn't suddenly become silly. So with newfags like yourself, it's no wonder crappy characters like Crystal Ball were given so much attention. And i guess people want to like this fortnite dreadnok too.It's not my thing, and I'm just explaining how it's missing what made GI Joe relevant and cool for 50 years.
>>11916061>Shit like the cartoon was silly retarded dreck, but the designs/toys themselves were tacticool awesomeness.>tacticool awesomenessFucking lmao. Get over yourself
>>11916043Okay schizo just pretend we're all scary Hasbro employees trying to get you. Im sure its better than the actual reality you live in
>>11916070Just mocking both you and Hasbro's ex-design team for missing the point, which is probably why the GI Joe line has been struggling since Classified started.And I'm glad Hasbro fired their designers. If the GI Joe line continues next year, i hope they get actual fans, instead of more transfags.>>11916065>no argument because I'm rightenjoy your LOL SO WACKY XD designs
>>11916065Nice /toy/ picture, real GI Joe fan. You gonna post toys in the /toy/ thread?
>>11916100The Reading Rainbow dude?? Classified?
>>11916061The cartoon was great and still holds up well today, especially the Sunbow stuff. It got darker than normal 80s cartoons with going as far as showing dead bodies. And it had a lot of episodes with great story-telling. You're just being an overly-cynical adult. There are times when I like the cartoon more than I do Hama's "Vietnam and ninjas everywhere" comic books.
>>11916084>which is probably why the GI Joe line has been struggling since Classified started.You got it backwards. GI Joe was on its deathbed for years before Classified injected fresh life into it.
>>11916386I must have been an overly cynical kid, because my hate for the cartoon started way back then.I read a lot of books when i was a kid, so i could spot bad writing a mile away.> still holds up well todayNo it doesn't. GI Joe is specifically one of those cartoons that everyone thinks was better than it actually was. It's one of the most mocked cartoons of all time because of how dumb it is. Characters like Serpentor got a ton of hate thanks to the cartoon making him an angry rainman.The only thing deserving of praise were the designs and the memes that mock its own stupidity.
>>11916390No point in even entertaining him with a response. He's the same guy who has been claiming Classified has been a failure since its inception 7 years ago, and has been claiming the line is a few months away from cancellation for the last 6 years.
>>11916390You're showing how little you know about gi joe, because gi joe was literally dead for years. After TRU died, there was no major outlet for GI Joes anymore and even the convention exclusives dried up.Classified coming back was a struggle, because the fandom needed to eat the shit sandwich or face GI Joe dying again. There was a lot disinterest for the Classified design, so much so that Hasbro basically killed the Classified reboot and just switched to making mostly nostalgiafag shit, because the movie also bombed.Sales were very poor and kept droppign every year, hence the toyline becoming a mainstay at Ross.
>>11916393That's some revisionist history because I remember people loving the line when it first came out. It's really fuckin weird how you've been insisting GI Joe is on the brink of death for literally years. Classifieds sell well.
>>11916418>people loved it so much that Hasbro didn't release all the Classified designs they had lined up and instead focused on releasing shit for nostalgiafags, because everything sold so poorly it was showing up at Rossok retard>ib4 not understanding why showing up at ross is a bad thing...
>>11916392same guy who has spent the better part of 2 decades shitting up this entire board with the same arguments, saying he’s a lost cause is an understatement
>>11916428I don't know what you're trying to convey. People weren't super fond of the techy designs of the first few waves, but they liked the figures themselves, and they still sold well enough. So I genuinely don't know what you're getting at. Just because people didn't like the astetic of the first few waves, doesn't mean the line is the failure you're making it out to be lol.
>>11916428>>ib4 not understanding why showing up at ross is a bad thingAlso, everything shows up at Ross nowadays. People are reportedly finding a $90 SDCC Exclusive Transformer for like $40. I've gotten numerous GI Joes, Marvel Legends, TFs, and Star Wars figs at Ross. Hell, Todd McFarlane even has a little subline of his dying DC Multiverse line that is exclusive to Ross, reissues of figures slapped on a cardback and stripped of the accessories the original came with. I suppose Marvel Legends is dying because I totally just saw the two Inhumans 2 packs and the Gladiator/Death Bird 2 pack. (I picked up the Gladiator/Death Bird pack),
>>11916390The 25th anniversary sold well and was heavily driven by cheap reissues of vintage vehicles that had gotten pricey. It fell apart after that, and with the help of the two crappy movies. >>11916391I disagree completely. Out of all 80s cartoons it's the least "kiddy" and the designs of everything still hold up well to where Hasbro can still use 40-year-old figure and vehicle designs to make money today. >>11916392# of 2026 releases: 53# of 2025 releases: 51# of 2024 releases: 32# of 2023 releases: 34# of 2022 releases: 22# of 2021 releases: 23# of releases in 2020: 12Production has gone up almost every year since its inception. This year had more releases than the first two years combined. That's hardly something a failing line would do.
Lets pretend you haven't seen the leak and don't know who's coming up next. Can you guess who this is supposed to be? If not, then its a failure of design. Getting rid of a characters iconic equipment even if it is silly whiteout a recognizable replacement ruins the uniqueness of the character.
>>11916562Sneak Peak.Periscopes are so 1980s. Having a drone is 21st century.
>>11916565Ninjas are so 15th century. We need to update all of them with bullpup rifiles and standard tactical armor.
>>11916582There was no way they were ever going to release a modern non-retro Sneak Peak with the dopey periscope.The same as Psyche-Out with satellite dishes. It’s been 40 years, equipment is going to evolve. Hasbro knows they’re not going to attract Jimmy 10 year old with an army man holding a 300 lb obsolete periscope when he could have a small drone.
>>11916562The periscope was comically over-sized, and even looked stupid in 1987. There's no way anyone could carry it around on a battlefield. >>11916586They didn't have soldiers with radar dishes on their wrists while wearing flourescent green military wear in the 1980s. That whole year was Hasbro realizing that the Gen-X kids who were the market in 1982 - 1986 were at the age of outgrowing it, so they decided to pander to the next generatin of kids with bright colors and goofy gimmicks.
>>11916586jimmy isn’t buying a $30 classified anyway boss
I wouldn't have bought one with the periscope either, but that's not the point. Joes all have something about them that's unique, whether is outdated or goofy, its their own, and you can easily tell who's who at a glance. If you start taking away their unique features, then it just becomes a generic army guy line. If they didn't want to make Sneak Peak, then they didn't have to. They could have used that slot for one of the other dozens of Joes they haven't made yet. If they start doing this with more characters especially ones people care about, then its going to stop being a GI Joe line, and just be another generic slop line from Bobby Vala.
>>11916602Totally disagree
>>11916602Look at that figure's colors. They're wrong. If it sells well enough to warrant a double-dip, then we can expect to see a retro-card version with correct colors and accessories later on.
>>11916602Why not, I dunno, realize a Retro Sneak Peek will solve this issue eventually?
>>11916661Outside of the first wave of retro figures, which ones changed the accessories a figure came with? Retro Viper still had the wrong gun for sure.
I am now at peace skipping this goofy thing.
>>11916677>comparing a random Cobra faceless goon to a named JoeOpinion discarded.
>>11916565I mean, it's not like he doesn't come with a trench periscope at all, it's just not the comically sized rendition the ARAH figure had. He's basically a forward observer, there's any number of modern optics devices he could come with, but drones are definitely the way things are going.
>>11916433>if you disagree with me you're a bad person and only a single person has ever disagreed with meliteral cult behaviorAnd i'd like to point out that i never said that the GI Joe would be dead in two weeks until Hasbro started firing its GI Joe team. So if anyone noticed that the GI Joe line was too easy to find at Ross and thought the line would be dead within the next year, they're not wrong to assume that, but it wasn't me (until this year).>>11916448A toyline showing up at Ross is always a bad thing. So if something popular does show up, it means a wave sold poorly. How bad that is, depends on what shows up and how often. So stuff like Marvel Legends might show up, but not every single wave like GI Joe almost did. I would have thought GI Joe was dead after the movie bombed and showed up at Ross, but i noticed that they were still announcing a lot of shit and had future plans. So it's obvious that Hasbro was canceling GI Joe but with lowered sales expectations. And every year, they seem to lower those sales expectations, because the toyline keeps showing up on a regular basis at Ross. So everytime time GI Joe shows up at Ross, that means stores are going to lower order numbers for the next wave (this is how retail works). So it's been almost 7 years straights of a sales line going down, which would normally gotten Hasbro to have canceled the line.Yet i didn't say anything about the line dying until this year, when the design team got fired, projects delayed/canceled, which means less product is going to get made and they're rationing out what's already produced because the line is probably dead. We won't know until SDCC next year, due to how long it takes for products to be actually made.pic is a dead line, where everything produced showed up at ross (like GI Joe Classified) but nothing new was being announced for the future.
>>11916679I think it looks cool. I just wish that Thrasher came with it
>>11916719SOME Classified shows at Ross/Ollie's. Not all of it. Ones like battle armor CC, Zartan, Crystal Ball, Baroness, and others were long gone before they could be moved to secondary clearance. The line is full of hits and misses. The misses naturally don't sell as well.
>>11916719>but not every single wave like GI Joe almost didI wish every single wave of Joes hit Ross, but that just isn't true and you can't actually prove it. Also why does non of your inane logic apply to Black Series or Marvel Legends or Transformers, but only GI Joe? It's because you're a retard, that's why. Go back to pretending to own a business you dork.
>>11916776>MOST Classified showed up at Ross/Ollie'sfixed that for you. There's just too many misses with the Classified line, even stuff that excites the fans.Exclusives need to sell REALLY poorly for them to show up at Ross/Ollies, due to how few of them stores actually order.>>11916822Nearly every single wave showed up. You can find people reporting shit on youtube and forums. Obviously, some characters are just going to sell out.>Also why does non of your inane logic apply to Black Series or Marvel Legends or Transformers, but only GI Joe?Did you even read what i said, retard? there's a reason why i call you a retard in the first place.Ross/Ollies will skip entire years of Marvel Legends, and other popular lines, due to these lines actually being popular. Most times, you can literally foretell how they'll sell, since unpopular movie waves clog shelves, which means the waves before and after can sometimes be affected by clogged shelves (plus the unpopular movie waves) which causes them to show up at Ross.
>>11916462>It fell apart after thatwatIt only fell apart AFTER the sequel movie was delayed. So all the years from the 25th (2007?) til 2012, it got FULL retailer support. From KMart to Amazon. Every single major retailer carried GI Joe, in every state, in every city. It was so popular that drug stores with their nearly nonexistant toy aisles carried it, which is a big tell-tale sign of good sales (this was before Hasbro and McFarlane made deals with walgreens).When the sequel was delayed, that basically killed Target and WAlmart's interest in the gI Joe line, because they were stuck with a ton of stock that they over ordered due to it being a movie toyline. Hasbro tried to make good with them, but retailers were so pissed that they basically dropped the line thereafter.TRU was the only major retailer who wanted to keep supporting GI Joe afterward, because sales were still great. Indie stores carried it too, but it was heavily advertised as a TRU toyline until TRU died.>Production has gone up almost every year since its inceptionMore releases ≠ production going up. They can make 53 figures a year but only sell 100k units. without a doubt, the first two years were in the millions sales range, despite having fewer figures. initial and movie waves are always the high points for a toyline.And again, you can tell that sales went down due to the fact that so many waves showed up at Ross/Ollies, plus the fact that GI Joe hasn't had full retailer support since the movie bombed. And every year since, fewer walmarts/targets carried the line.Nevermind the fact that they've fired their design team. Nevermind their ex-current design team existed after the design team from the dropped Classified (design-wise) line and movie line were let go in 2021. Successful lines don't just let go of their workers.
>>11917058>It only fell apart AFTER the sequel movie was delayed. So all the years from the 25th (2007?) til 2012, it got FULL retailer support.Outside of 25th Anni, most of the later lines only lasted a few waves, with PoC probably being the second-longest running line, and PoC along with 30th Anni/Renegades was the high point the 3.75" ME figures. Retaliation line was a clusterfuck until after wave 3 or so. Nobody liked the Rise of Cobra aesthetic.Hasbro has had such shit distribution for nearly two decades that nearly every line got about 3-4 waves in, and then limped along while the later waves only trickled in, which was ironic, since most of the waves better figures only came in around wave 3 or 4 and onwards, but every other year a line would get cancelled with a glut of unreleased prototypes left on the table, and some of them would get dumped into the next line unceremoniously.Hasbro also had so little faith in the ME lines that most of the weirder or more obscure stuff only got released as overpriced, low production fanclub offerings.The ME stuff had way more failings and shortcomings than your rose-tinted glasses want to remember. The whole of all the combined lines had maybe like three good years.
>>11917089>most of the later lines only lasted a few wavesIt's just a theme.With the Marvel Universe line, there were the Fury Files, HAmmer Files, and whatever the later ones were called. The MU line was so successful that HAsbro had to sabotaged in its last year, because they wanted everyone to buy the more expensive ML line.The 25th+ GI Joe in itself was successful throughout until Walmart got pissed off with the sequel's delay. Even the first movie line not quite gettign everything out, it was still hugely successful for Hasbro. IT just didn't get that Cherry ontop by continuing on like they wanted to, which was for the best.And just so you know, it takes a pretty long time for them to actually tally numbers. So the fact is, stuff like Renegades needed to be planned out 14 months ahead of time. There's about a year of delay when something is put into production and actually getting sales data on it. This is why the first movie's last wave suddenly became a ross exclusive and there was a delay in releasing PoC, due to needing to rename/redesign some stuff.And those Renegade figures that were made in 2011? Literally planned to be just those, because they were getting ready for the sequel shit the next year. So not even the cartoon ratings influenced their decision in limiting the amount of figures that got produced.That vehicle you posted? that's from stores starting to cut back on ordering/stocking vehicles. Even star Wars was hit by that.Also, what's ME?
>>11917100>Also, what's ME?"Modern Era." Its generally what people referred to the 25th Anni line and onward, essentially the updated 3.75" figures as opposed to the o-ring vintage era 3.75s.>And those Renegade figures that were made in 2011? Literally planned to be just those, because they were getting ready for the sequel shit the next year. So not even the cartoon ratings influenced their decision in limiting the amount of figures that got produced.The Renegades stuff was definitely intentionally limited since it shared the line with the 30th Anni stuff, and I still remember the two together having the "30 for 30" tagline, where they intentionally planned out 30 figures for the two lines together.All of the other lines you could conceivably believe they could have continued on forever assuming the demand was there. Even the two movie lines just had figures unrelated to the movies added in, which eventually just sort of shifted into PoC as something of an intentional followup line to the RoC line.
>>11917029>Nearly every single wave showed up. You can find people reporting shit on youtube and forums. Obviously, some characters are just going to sell out.Ok, then prove it. You made the claim, the burden of proof is on you. I want evidence that proves every single wave hit Ross. I'm not going to do the work to prove your bullshit claim for you. Prove it you pussy. If you don't you can never post here again. >Ross/Ollies will skip entire years of Marvel Legends, and other popular lines, due to these lines actually being popular. That hasn't been the case for the better part of a fucking decade. When was the last time you left your house? Pretty much every ML wave hits Ross in some form now, even the Fan Channel stuff. Again, people are reporting they're finding last year's $90 SDCC Exclusive Nemesis Prime at Ross right now. Literally a dude on this website posted his find in the currently active TF thread. Again, prove to me that more Joe waves show up at Ross than ML or Black Series or you're the stupidest liar on this board. Ass clown.
>>11917119I've posted a lot of proof. How long have you been coming to these threads and not noticed my links to youtube? Posting screenshots and photos? ... but then, I am in a thread claiming I'm doing revisiing history, because they forgot how disliked the Classified designs were, ignoring that those designers needed to get replaced due to poor sales, the Classified designs being dropped, and how most of it ended up on clearance.... I mean, here you are, trying to change my own words from "nearly every wave" to "every single wave hit ross"You're extremely dishonest, because you don't like that I'm not drinking your Kool Aid.>All of the other lines you could conceivably believe they could have continued on forever assuming the demand was there.By design, those "lines" are just themes to keep kids interested in the toylines. Same shit with Spy Troopers, Venom Vs Valor, and many others that were created every year. None of them are because they sold poorly, because they're basically just storylines to grab your attention. Same shit with 25th, 30th, 50th, etc. Again, 25th+ GI Joe was very popular until the second movie and it was basically a technical error that killed it as a major toyline in 2012/2013. Whereas Classified was a fuck up almost right away and it's Hasbro/retailers accepting below standard sales that kept it alive. Any other line would have been killed off after the movie and its toys bombed. Nevermind the ongoing dumping of stock every year.
>>11917141>I've posted a lot of proofYou haven't though. >How long have you been coming to these threads and not noticed my links to youtubeYou can't retroactively prove something stupid. If it's so easy, why are you so afraid to just prove me wrong right now?>You're extremely dishonest, because you don't like that I'm not drinking your Kool Aid.This is the kind of wordplay and gaslighting that people who have no leg to stand on use in order to try and convince others they're right without actually proving anything. The rest of your post isn't even in response to me so I don't know what you're smoking.
>>11917141>Again, 25th+ GI Joe was very popular until the second movie and it was basically a technical error that killed it as a major toyline in 2012/2013. Whereas Classified was a fuck up almost right away and it's Hasbro/retailers accepting below standard sales that kept it alive.Yeah, and classified launched during a global pandemic where people were barely allowed to go to stores or work for months, and the movie (as bad as it was) was also delayed because of said pandemic not once, but twice, because people weren't allowed to go to movie theaters.And they changed the line after the first couple waves because crybabies who don't like anything different were mad because the line wasn't 1:1 to the old designs. Hasbro pushed through because there was a time when businesses took risks on something new and putting GI Joe in a new scale was probably a risk they were willing to take and it paid off since we're still here 7 years later getting more stuff.
>>11917029Not even close to true. You're showing examples that weren't hits while pretending that they're the majority. If the line was struggling then they wouldn't have increased the number of releases almost every year since the line started. You're just desperate to believe that a line that's been going for seven years has failed for whatever reason.
>>11917148>your pictures of gi joes on clearance at ross/ollies aren't proof despite being the exact proof I'm asking for and despite knowing how long you've been posting in these threads I'm going to pretend I'm ignorant of your postskeep drinking that kool aid, cultist. I can't even pretend you're a Hasbro employee, because they wouldn't hire a retard like you>>11917152it doesn't matter that Classified launch during the pandemic, because everyone here was stil trying to buy toys like normal and these threads weren't positive about the Classified designs. And i certaintly don't see anyone still holding out for unreleased shit, like >>11917089 posted.I can't believe anyone cares about Classified except to act like a contrarian, so don't act like only nostalgiafags were bitching about it. And I'm not saying that people hated the Classified designs, just that literally who cares, and that's why nobody gives a shit that they even fired the guys who made them. >>11917153>they wouldn't have increased the number of releases If sales are dropping, it's a very common practice to release more shit. This is why there's been many exclusives too, because it ensures a retailer will order more products and the exclusives are also ordered at a minimum number. These are desperation tactics. More releases ≠ production going up.>failed for whatever reasonLogical reasons:A movie and it's toylines bombing.It's 6 years straight of multiple waves per year being dumped at ross/marshalls/etc. Continous retailer support waning.Two instances of Hasbro firing their employeess in charge of the toyline.The 1st reason would have been enough to kill any toyline.The 2nd reason kills toylines. 6 years straight at the level gI Joe gets dumped is insane. The 3rd reason also kills toylines.The 4th reason is damning. Not many people noticed when the design team changed the first time, but the second time, without replacement, is a sure sign of death.
>>11917182>keep drinking that kool aid, cultist. I can't even pretend you're a Hasbro employee, because they wouldn't hire a retard like youI get it subby you can only handpick a couple of random figs you've seen online. I get it. I accept your concession. Round about way to admit you were wrong but I guess it's the best you can do. Show me a Baroness at Ross and I'll believe you that the line is dying. And let's just ignore that probably the most hyped figure for the entire year is a GI Joe Classified figure.
>>11916355That looks nothing like LeVar Burton or Geordie LaForge
>>11917182>still showing the flops that no one cared for, and using samples to claim absolutes. Once again show us Battle Armor CC, retro-card Gung Ho, Zartan, and others that did sell well. Show even for the stuff this year show me IG Destro, Overkill, Zanya, The Legacy special forces soldier, Hit-n-Run, Cobra-La Guard, Ramp Rats, etc. You cherry-pick the flops to present absolutes, and that's bullshit. Even the original Star Wars had pegwarmers like Rancor Keeper and Gamorrean Guard. The line is producing more each year. That's not something that a failing line would do. You're just here to piss on people and start shit (as always).
I don't collect G.I. Joe and don't plan to, but I think Destro is cool. Show me your coolest Destros.
>>11917267I'd like IG Destro if his price wasn't bloated by his flying soap dish
>>11917141all the ross here either has their stock bought out by neckbeards or something or mine just don't ever get anything. I'd kill to have 2 of those infantry
>>11917754Scalpers seeking cheap inventory to flip. Last year Ross Joes were $5, but when they realized what the scalpers were doing they doubled the price since there's still some meat on the bone.
>>11917261>if you can't post actually popular figures, then Ross didn't get in 90% of the Classified toyline in their shelvesRetard logic.And you don't even seem to understand how Ross works. Shit needs to shelf warm almost an entire year, after being clearanced off by stores, before they get the unsold overstock. This is why almost year old waves show up at Ross, so if Overkill or Hit and Run sold poorly, tehy won't show up until next year. Something needs to sell extremely poorly or distributors completely clogged for something newer to show up at Ross in less than 6-9 months.Since you don't know how Ross works, you're probably our resident dirty third worlder who's never stepped inside one, so you don't even know how America works.>The line is producing more each year.Again: More releases ≠ sales going up.I'll use a nerd example of how Marvel was making a ton of comics, despite sales going down year after year and going bankrupt in 1996. They were trying to recreate their best years in the early 90s, but they just published a lot of embarassing #1s at poor sales.>>11917764Ross doesn't give a shit who buys their overstock. The fact that they're no longer $5 is because GI Joes aren't under $25 anymore. Nevermind most of the stock they got from GI Joe was when it was heavily clearanced at Walmart/Target/etc. Ross usually only knows the retailer's price and Ross then prices it at half off of that.So that should give you a hint at how poorly GI Joe was selling at normal retail and for how long the line was selling poorly.
>>11917237Yes it does
NYCC panel is going on right now.name only reveals: Movie Chucklesretro Zaranaretro Tunnel RatAmbush Ninja Force Storm Shadow and Billy two packand now they're showing renders of their name only reveals, which makes them not name only reveals.
>>11918105Who does this look like?
>>11917141Man I missed most of the GI Joe stuff last year. No Stinger, not HISS MMS and Fire Team. But so far this year I've had good luck. A couple retro card troopers, 3 Retro Vipers 3 Tech Vipers, 5 Snow Serpents and Eels. Recently 2 Valkyrie packs and today these.
Arctic SS Ninja Force name dropped, along with Ambush and Bob the ninja.
>>11918200Stolen boxed pics incoming.Glad I have a scale SVD. Not giving her a ComBloc weapon is a typical Hasbro L.
booba
>>11918427Bet we see most of this setup again for Bonbstrike.
>>11918427It just the Lara Craft reuse. Lazy ass Hasbro. Now we gotta wait on a retro card release for her classic look. Jeez. They dont even give her the legally distict AK they gave SGT Slaughter.
Zarana’s one of my waifus and I can’t tell what changes they made to make her “retro” outside of tweaking some colors. But I guess you have to buy a whole new figure just for Sunbow colored hair.
>>11918452Neat I guess, but I'm waiting on the DIC colors. If this pops up in ROSS like the first one I may snag one. but im okay with the the original.
The white shirt Chuckles
Okay, maybe I will get him after all. The fixed his face sculpt. The other one was just as bad as the Falcon one, and clearly by the same shitty designer.
Just my periodic reminder of the curse I inflicted on this line, that there will never be another Baroness.
>>11918427Think I will get this one to act as both an alternate costume for Lara and a potential custom for Sie from Alpha Protocol.
>>11918364impressive hauls nonetheless.Despite being a huge gi joe fan, i skipped almost everything i've seen at Ross.Kinda wish Mezco's GI Joes sold better, because they've seemingly stopped making anything there. I want higher quality stuff when i buy GI Joe in 1:12 scale.Some stuff is awfully tempting, but i really wouldn't do anything with my GI Joes in 1:12 aside from putting them on display. Army builders, vehicles... and I'd be paying way less for them than i do current 1:18 toylines. It makes me feel bad.
>>11918452>"retro">has the modern hairokay hasbro
>>11918491>>You did not just do that in my medical bay. Bet it smells like cat piss and tuna in there...
>>11918200>>11918394>>11918399>>11918427Nice to see the render lineup skewing the hell out of the figures. Shipwreck is reusing Tunnel Rat's legs, so he's gonna be a complete midget, and Daina is reusing Lara's torso and arms, making her look anorexic. Her legs don't look that thick either
>>11908393Well shit, that is unfortunate looking. Have they not seen a real yote? They have long skinny legs.
>>11916462I'm still crossing my fingers that we'll get a retro card Roadblock.
>>11918534I’m getting sick of Classified. The Retro releases don’t even make sense. It reminds me of when they were doing the Walmart exclusive 3.75 figures early into Classified and it was all mostly shitty reissues and bad sculpts, and the guy in charge of the line was some young dude who seemed like he didn’t care. >>11918454I feel like we’ll see DIC Zarana in Reaction+ before it ever happens in Classified.
>>11918740>I’m getting sick of Classified. The Retro releases don’t even make sense.The issue is that they've just been lazy AF with the "retro" releases, that they may as well not even bother.
>>11918396Been waiting for them to make this guy.>>11918394Hope we get the rest of the team.>>11918459>looks more of a jacked up big guy like in the movie>actually including the rocket he throws in the movieWell played, Hasbro
>>11918740>I’m getting sick of Classified.>>11918749>The issue is that they've just been lazy AF with the "retro" releases, that they may as well not even bother.That's what happens when you put a Transfag in charge of the line.The designers didn't get GI Joe and it only took Hasbro 5 years of poor sales to finally fire them.
>>11918396>>11918399These two look awesome. There aren't many figures from the post-1986 era that I like, and the HEAT Viper is one of them. Plus Shipwreck looks much cooler like this than in his old-school naval sailor outfit. >>11918427What's with the "evil eyes?" They did it with Deming/Shipwreck, the Valkyries, and others. I guess with those tits they didn't want the figure to be too good, so they messed with the face. >>11918452In terms of sculpt quality Zarana is one of the best figures in the line except for the face. This one's face seems a bit retooled to make the face less "squared," which does improve it a lot. It looks like the face was resculpted by whoever did Rattler Baroness and Arctic Lady Jaye. I'll end up getting it even though I have the first one. It would be cool as hell if they re-did both Zarana and Zandar with color-change like they did with Zartan.
>>11918459I'm still waiting on the Cobra Commander version.
>>11918452Blew it up a little bit and messed with brightness/contrast to better see the face.
>>11918780>The designers didn't get GI Joe and it only took Hasbro 5 years of poor sales to finally fire them.> 5 years of poor salesReference:>>11916462Increasing production every single year is not poor sales nor a failing and dying line. You're just someone who for whatever reason wants the line to fail and die.
>>11918822>increasing the amount of products made totally means sales are great are you a retard, third worlder, or a child?Nevermind their stock being dumped at Ross for 6 years straight affects how much stock is ordered by the stores that dumped it to Ross.pic of how Marvel printed more number 1s than ever in the 90s, right before going bankrupt. And this has been their tactic for the past couple of years with declining sales as well.
>>11918452Looks like a brand new head sculpt with the hair no longer detachable
>>11918832Pegwarmers get dumped for secondary clearance. The good stuff doesn't. You're pathetically using pegwarmers as your "proof" of a failed line, which is laughable. Even the most successful lines have had pegwarmers. >>11918835Yeah. They lost the second wig and improved her face, which is fine with me.
>>11918427Fuck yeah, definitely grabbing her. Hope they do the rest of the Oktober Guard (and Kwinn).
>>11918959Gotta reuse that Russian tanker cap they debuted with Zanya somewhere. At the very least we get Horrow Show, I s'pect.
>>11918832Blackwulf was bad ass
>>11918959I suspect we'll get Red Star, for which we did get a figure of in the original line and was a semi-regular part of the DIC cartoon.
>>11918452>>11918835>>11918840That looks like the same head sculpt to me, whole image is just warped and giving a different impression. Why would they redo the head sculpt and keep the retarded expression?
>>11919217That's not the new retro version, and is the original. Scroll up to the retro one shown. That one also has all the silver parts as well as brown shoulder strap painted in gold.
>>11919275I know that, retard, it was for the sake of comparison. If you squash the image, it looks identical to the new one.
>>11918840Seriously, are you a retard, tihird worlder, or a child?You have no understanding of how bad stock getting dumped at Ross is, especially when it's happening for 6 years in a row.That's unsold stock, even if it were entirely "pegwarmers", which it isn't, because entire waves are dumped.Nevermind the fact that that firing their design team (TWICE) confirms sales were poorNevermind an increasing number of stores over the years not carrying the line also confirms sales are poor.Nevermind they had to change the direction of the Classified line (they gave up on the reboot designs) too, which is also a sign of poor sales.
>>11918545Hah, nice. Best girl.
>>11919331They didn't fire their design team. People chose to quit instead of moving when Hasbro moved. Did you even follow that, or did you make up your own series of events to fit your narrative?
>>11919411At this point you should realize that everything he posts is a leap of logic, blatantly untrue, classic schizo conspiracy theory, or something that can be disproven by just walking into a store.He is the embodiment of "don't trust your own eyes or experiences, trust me, some rando on the internet."
The Full Force has glamor galleries for Daina et al. on all their socials.
Canonizing the idea that Disp Tone, Shipwreck, Roadblock, and Snake Eyes got turned into humanoid turtles and after losing a couple of feet in height in a shrink ray accident, Cobra Commander stole elements of Shredder's outfit, plus henchmen Bebop and Rocksteady and the patronage of Krang and became Ninja Force Cobra Commander
"I thought we agreed to just rebuild my old body Destro?""I think this looks better, don't you think?""I think it's a miracle Baroness is still madly in love with you, even though you've been keeping that poor girl waiting for you marry her!"
>>11919411>Did you even follow thatOf course I did, but you obviously didn't and because you're either retarded or a child, so you probably won't understand half the shit I'm going to spoon feed to you:Hasbro's new headquarters is fifteen minutes away from Boss Fight Studio. So everyone who got fired (and it's not a coincidence so many GI Joe team members got fired during the same time period) didn't quit their job because Hasbro's too far away from them.And yes, they got fired, but they did it nicely, so it doesn't look bad on their resume. Professionals who care about their career never want to get fired and don't want any years where they weren't working. Hasbro probably paid a bunch of people they would normally fire, to seek employment elsewhere. Big companies are pretty nice like this, hence being most people's dream job. Nobody wants to leave their dream job, especially one of the biggest boys toys toy company in the world.And since Boss Fight Studio is made up of exHasbro employees, they offered the fired workers a job, so it won't look bad on their resume when they go apply to work for a better toy company.But again, since you brain is undeveloped, you can't understand, just like you don't understand the fact that stock getting dumped = stores order less in the future.6 years straight of stock being dumped is 6 years of diminishing orders.Two teams have already been fired from gI Joe and they currently aren't filling in every position.The Classifed reboot was dumped hence the first team getting dumped.And over the years, fewer stores have stocked the GI Joe line.But because you're a child, a retard, or a third worlder, all this shit isn't a bad thing or it didn't happen, despite everyone reporting on it happening.>>11919424no upic relatedstock being dumped is a bad thing, retard.
>>11919704So, why does this only apply for GI Joe but not Star Wars or Marvel or Transformers that have just as many items hitting Ross as GI Joe?
>>11919482It wouldn't take much to turn that into "Nevada Desert" Lara Croft.
>>11919924New one's up>>11919871Because he's a professional complainer who does nothing but start pointless internet arguments with Joe fans while proudly being "IT'S OVER MAN" doomsday (and wrong) for several years now
>>11919699>Snake Eyes got turned into humanoid turtles and after losing a couple of feet in height in a shrink ray accident,the turtles are generally really short so you dont need a shrink ray explanation.
>>11919974The shrink ray is just to explain why CC is short. The Joes shrank because of the mutagen.
>>11919871I already explained it, retard.The frequency of Marvel and Transformers is far less than GI Joe. Most times it coincided with the movie waves, which are supremely overordered, which means stores ordered so much shit that they profited heavily and any overstock that got dumped wasn't considered a loss.Star Wars WAS almost just as bad for a time, but it seems like a lot of stores finally corrected started ordering the right amount.Nevermind the fact that these lines are many times more popular and ordered in a much greater quantity than GI Joe on a regular basis, so like the movie lines, any overstock that gets dumped still isn't considered a loss.It's really sad that the 1:12 GI Joe thraed is this full of little kids who don't understand business. We used to have oldfags who actively talked about the supply side in knowledgable ways.>>11919926Cope. Not everyone who disagrees with you is samefag. Again, i never said it was over until 2026 and only after they fired their employees and shit got delayed.They aren't replacing their employess, and since it takes over a year to produce a toy, that means nothing new is being produced for the next year. And sicne they delayed shit, they're actually trying to spread whatever products are already in production to fill out that emptiness.
>>11920262>The frequency of Marvel and Transformers is far less than GI JoeThat is just untrue. In fact, I'm more likely to see some random Age of the Primes Transformer than I am anything else. >Most times it coincided with the movie waves, which are supremely overordered,Most recent MLs to show up were a bunch of Fan Channel two packs, all comic based. Most recent TF found was the $90 SDCC exclusive which is based off of one of the cartoons. You're just wrong.>Nevermind the fact that these lines are many times more popular and ordered in a much greater quantity than GI Joe on a regular basisMy stores order more Joes than they do Star Wars these days.It's really sad how you've been barking this same argument for years and the line is still going. Wasn't it supposed to die like three years ago according to you? What goalpost movement are you going to justify it still going today?
>>11920290Transformers has like a bazillion toylines at once, while GI Joe has a single one action figure line and sometimes a vehicle. Same with Marvel.All one and a half of GI Joe's lines show up at Ross. pic relatedAgain, you're trying to compare a mountain out of mole hill. You're trying to pretend that 2 tons of soil erroding from the mountain is just as bad as the 2 tons of soil eroding from the mole hill.GI Joe needs every penny of profit, whereas Marvel/Transformers/Star Wars can miss those pennies without even notcing it. Again, this is why so many Walmarts and now Targets no longer carry the line.>My stores order more Joes than they do Star Wars these days.prove it. Post the pegs there are for the Star Wars line and then the pegs for GI Joe.Most stores DO NOT carry more stock in the back, peg space is shows how much stock is actually ordered.also, post 50th or before GI Joes next to an electical socket to prove you're not some newfag collector, hence the only reason you want to pretend Classified is doing better than it actually is.>What goalpost movementnone, retard. I haven't moved a single goalpost, while you're ignoring the fact you don't even understand how retail or businesses work. AGain, if GI Joe wasn't doing poorly, why fire their employees and not even replace them? Why delay products, if not to spread out all the missing products that won't be released due to not having employees to make future figures? Again, you're pretending that stores are dumping stock and will continue ordering just as many units in the future if not more. Literal retard logic.
>>11920342>Transformers has like a bazillion toylines at onceI'm not counting the shitty movie tie in toy, or kid oriented TF, I'm referring to the Generations line, the main collector line. I see Studio Series, Age of the Primes, Legacy, and in the past Earthrise, Siege, Kingdom and others. Again, you're trying to compare a mountain out of mole hillGod fucking damn LMAO!! That is not how you use that phrase. I love how you reveal you're an ESL retard when you do this. Be it with "diamond dozen" or "no nothing" or "doggy dog world". Holy shit my fucking sides.>prove it. Post the pegs there are for the Star Wars line and then the pegs for GI Joe.Make me bitch. If you went outside of your studio apartment more than once every six months, you'd see this.>also, post 50th or before GI Joes next to an electical socket to prove you're not some newfag collector, hence the only reason you want to pretend Classified is doing better than it actually is.I already did this months ago for you and you shut your bitch mouth, I'm not doing it again. >I haven't moved a single goalpostYou've been saying this line has been on the verge of death for like four years now. Why hasn't it died yet if what you say is true?>why fire their employees and not even replace them?Hasbro has been cleaning house across the board, the Marvel Legends team lost a bunch of big names like Ryan Ting. >Why delay productsWhat products have been delayed? If anything I've been getting Joes before their solicitation dates. I just got Rugged Duke and Lara a month early.>Again, you're pretending that stores are dumping stock and will continue ordering just as many units in the future if not moreSeems to be what they're doing, not sure why it upsets you so much.
>>11919482Reminds me of Olga from MGS2. Wish someone in Hasbro would get the metal gear license beofre Todd McFarlane goes for it again. I admit his Solidus Snake figure is great, the rest of the line was lacking with it's preposed sculpting.
>>11920402>I already did this months ago for you I have no idea who you are, hence asking to see some proof.Considering the contrarian nature of your posts, i was assuming you're our resident third worlder, so refresh my memory on what was in the image. >what you say is trueThat's your schizoness pretending everyone who disagrees with you is samefag. For the fourth time this thread, i haven't said it was dead until this year. >Make me bitchYou made the claim, but offer no proof. I've offered a ton of proof showing how GI Joe isn't found in a lot of walmarts anymore, by posting links to videos showing GI Joe is missing from pegs, proving it's a nationwide thing and not anecdotal. Tons of proof that Ross and Ollies over the years having dumped stock.So do you ahve any proof or are you just our contrarian third worlder?>Hasbro has been cleaning house across the boardAgain, you're comparing a mountain to a mole hill (again, the fact that you're nitpicking at my typo makes me think youre a third worlder). The Marvel team is far larger than everyone else >What products have been delayed?that thunder machien for one>Seems to be what they're doingThere's that contrarian attitude that makes me assume you're that dirty third worlder.Again, it defied all logic that stores would dump stock and not lower orders to match what was actually sold. Nation wide chains like Ross, Burlington Coat Factory and Ollies aren't getting local stock.Again, six years for seeing GI Joe products at Ross and Ollies = lower sales year after year after year after year after year, which is why so many WAlmart and Target stores not carrying GI Joe anymore.
>>11920417Getting a Sniper Wolf in this scale would be a dream come true. Also being a GI Joe making it the perfect compliment to her doll which is based on the 1964 Joes.
>>11920459>which is why so many WAlmart and Target stores not carrying GI Joe anymore.Citation needed. All three of my local Targets have Joes and the two Walmarts I went to last week looking for Lara Croft had a literal shit ton of Joes at the big collector display with the dioramas. Shit, one store had Joes taking up half of the Hasbro side with Legends and TFs taking the other half and Star Wars relegated to the endcap of the display.
>>11920714My walmart has a ton of Joes but no one buys them until they hit clearance. Legacy Special Forces went half off last week and i grabbed two of them.
>>11920714I've posted multiple videos and links to forums before.Do you want to pretend that you have no idea who i am to make me scrub through a couple videos to find them again? Because that makes you a stupid liar, which also means you've ignored facts that GI Joe has been such a poor seller and you'll ignore the facts again.Anyway, links with text are easier to find. Read through the comments to find people talking about GI Joe missing here: reddit /r/GIJOEClassifiedSeries/comments/1qyix6g/walmart_discontinuing_joes/ facebook groups/GIJoeClassified/posts/25251477151106679/[oof, 4chan thinks this is spam so i've removed shit]Again, this is the results of fewer people than ever carrying out GI Joe and stores dumping their stock at Ross/Ollies/etc. Stores less and less every year, to the point that some stores won'teven bother carrying it.Again, this is why Hasbro fired their design team (for the second time) and haven't replaced everybody. A sure sign of death.
>>11920417She'd definitely make a good base for Olga. I'm of the mind to strip the camo and do a Sovoet amoeba pattern on it. I'd stripe the shirt if I could figure out a way to do them cleanly. She'd look good in a telnyashka.
