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>>82139694I will wait patiently then, my friend
this autistic they of a bitch is banging hot ladies left right and center
>>82160309Doggo really know how to please the bisexual in me
>>82160677I wish Kris was the bisexual IN me
>>82160677Kris doesn't bottom with other guys btw.Hope you like the dreem destroyer in your guts.
Long, sensitive, cute Krisp pp.
>>82160724as long as Kris is a good kisser (or at least, a good biter) they can rearrange my guts>>82160739I appreciate that jelly has made the krisdong a little less outrageously big and girthy
>>82160724I never considered myself a bottom but if I can make Kris feel good then so be it.
>>82160795Exactly.It's genuinely big, but not so much as to be impossible to handle and enjoy.God, just imagine all the cute, sweet little moans he makes.
>>82160724>>82160884I ain't takin dick but I'll gladly eat that ass like apple pie.
>>82160917definitely a big post-coitus cuddler, too. lots of little kisses and bites all long your neck as they rest their cock between your thighs, coupling the cocks together and giving them gentle strokes while they work down from the high of painting your insides
mmmm real krislust hours
gay gaster: PENIS IS VERY, VERY INTERESTING
>>82162274Is regular gaster straight gaster? Egg obsessed I guess
seems to be the right time to post this
>>82161392I NEED HIM SO FUCKING BADLY
>>82160724>Kris and vessel facing each other, swords crossed>Kris is frowning, glaring a bit, while the vessel is smiling, but there's an edge to it>They're both tops...
>>82163859this can only end well I am sure
>>82160309Has anyone see these openheart video's before?... its really good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2ikgY1R-IYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGzrbZIk-RYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW7YGkmMnfE
>>82160739Wonder what the title means
>>82163897I think it moves to frustrated sloppy makeouts.
I think all the krislust might be scaring the hoesor else it's just a slow day lol
>>82164974we all just jerked off and fell asleepalso captcha is real slow so I am sure there is some dumb bullshit going on somewhere
>>82164974Mourning the loss of the gay DR thread where Krisfuckers could roam free.
If you want your gay DR thread back go make it don't try to turn this thread into it
>>82164974slow day I think
>>82163941The way the energy crackles off Noelle before she makes the Fountain reminds me of jellys comic. Veth failing to open a fountain but still making enough willpower to create sparks.
Love is tash.Bitches need cash.
it IS a slow night
I know I'm speaking from my unreasonable emotional attachment to the characters, but holy fuck I hate how so many mistreat them for petty reasons like shipping, character flaws, or just personal distaste. It's annoying as it is inescapable now.
>>82168087mistreat them in such a way?cuckshit yeah I hate that tooOOC actions are also pretty irritating but I have to admit I am a fan of some angsty feelbad stuff from time to time. Twilight Princess conditioned me to like doomed romances lol
>>82164974I'm working nights now.So much less busy than days, holy shit. No attorneys, no doctors, no inmate visits, nothing. Just dinner and sleepy time.
>>82168135>but I have to admit I am a fan of some angsty feelbad stuff from time to time.That, I don't believe there's a problem with, since it's serving a purpose of trying to tell a story, or its giving an alternate perspective on a character from putting them in an unfortunate situation. This is assuming it's not done out of disdain, or worse. Everything else you said? Yeah. People are rather obnoxiously loud with their dislike of certain characters, always feeling the need to go out of their way to let everyone know.To clarify, I don't mean when people offer good faith critiques, or discussion of a character in that regard.
>>82165144gay DR and Kris rotters were ALWAYS fighting because Kris rotters didn't want to turn Kris into some generic gay femboy while /dug/ did.
>>82166124>Veth failing to open a fountain but still making enough willpower to create sparks.what type of dark world will that be?
Good night Sus, try not to die
>>82170831Sleep tight, nerd
>>82170831night
>>82162274>>82163099Regular Gaster IS Gay Gaster
>>82168087Unfortunately, this same unreasonable emotional attachment is why a large portion of the fandom are extremely puritanical and incessantly complain about people making r34 art of their comfort characters. I wish kids these days would just learn to block what they don't like and move on, instead of trying to smugly virtue signal to their followers as if it these fictional characters need protecting.
>>82168436Wife-shaped
>>82172411Given how much of a phase it is for them, I dunno if it's attachment or just a general zeitgeist among younger people. All age demographics have gotten sick of millennial cringe, and among the hallmarks of that cringe came 24/7 horniness and porn/sex jokes. People got just as sick of it as they got of "Erm, well that just happened!™" I don;t mean to excuse the aggression that a lot of these people display, or the attitude of holier-than-thou that many of them display. I'm just saying there's a reason. I dunno if I can call it good or bad, but it is a reason.
>>82172784Everything sucks and its not too irrational to be that way about it. They've not made the truly smart choice of just utterly disengaging with it all and leaving it to rot, however.
>>82168087I was gonna write a post criticizing this way of thinking, but honestly, it would be like me going into a mental health hospital and complaining about it being filled with mentally ill people, it makes no sense.
>>82172411>I wish kids these days would just learn to block what they don't like and move onIt's why I don't take it too personally when people complain about my drawings. One, it's easy to ignore like you mentioned, and two most of the complaints come from literal children. It sucks when they start attacking younger artists that don't have the same experience in ignoring that BS, and it's usually for the dumbest of reasons, too.
>>82173122literally the entire main cast is just this
>>82172907You don't have anything insightful to say so you resorted to a passive aggressive response.
>>82172411i don't even understand how the two groups come into contact with each other for this to start to begin with. both would be better off keeping to themselves
>>82172411Honestly, i'm just happy that the current deltarune fandom actually talks about the source material in some capacity and hasn't terminally brainrotted itself over being obsessed over a single character and never actually talking about undertale that much at all. Being able to get fanfics that are just straight engaging with the normal story has been a godsend so far it's insane.
>>82163987As in they trust eachother. I thought that would be clearer...>>82163897:(
>>82174331don't worry its just some really kinky wrestle hate-sex, they do this every month
>>82174974Wish Kris would fuck me into a coma
>>82175921
>>82174974Well I'm not seeing any aftercare, and the level of injury does not seem comparable... I guess it just makes me sad to see Kris like that, the injuries seem to severe and the disinterest of the Vessel/player makes me uncomfortable. Just my autistic opinions and feelings, to take or leave at your leisure.
>>82176121its just powermove shenanigans while Kris has some fitful post-orgasm sleep
>>82176173Nah bro. That thing just straight up killed the shit out of him.
>>82175921https://youtu.be/5h60BfMEu6w
Susie and Kris dueling each other with electric fly swatters.
>>82176562I love seeing absolutely dumb shit like this and thinking "yeah, that's something they'd do"Fund it.
Licc
>>82175033same, some post sex cuddling would be nice as well
I like when she's having a shitty mood
I swear to god if I see one more tumblr post calling any member of the fun gang an underage baby I'm going to commission mating press content.
>>82179148>I'm going to commission mating press content.Do that anyway.
>>82179148>>82179171Just make sure you don't do that thing where 99.9% of the pic is just man ass covering everything.Of course if it's Kris, this is less of a problem, but still, we prefer to see both characters.
>>82179536could always go amazon if you need to see more woman
>>82180412Totally valid option as well.Love me some honry Sus gently manhandling her boye.
>>82160324I had a silly idea, sorry for the messy lines.
>>82181203Got DAMN she beegStronk boye
>>82181203Susie gonna get full of dick-termination
>>82181203Love that idea, please more beeg Susie and small Kris?
Stronk
>>82181203The strands of pubes sticking out and the little fat lines between where her thighs and butt meet are very nice
>>82181983She's so fucking perfect
>>82181203cute, in an odd way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iENLEOmRy7Y
>>82183292that last panel probably has veth a bit spooked, cause it sure spooked me
>>82183292>CLAIMB
>>82183292It's a shame that Noelle isn't as throwable as Kris and Ralsei. She'd probably do something dumb like "protest" or "scream".Also yeah, that look Susie's wearing in the last panel is NOT one that I'd want pointed at me.
>>82179148I feel like going to tumblr for ut/dr discussion in the first place is where you went wrong. I feel like the only reason anyone would ever go there for deltarune discussion is if you're just really into spamtenna
>>82183686Ironically I would argue that Noelle has some of the highest throwing potential(assuming she doesn't cry about dumb things like "this is insane" or "I could die"). Her antlers make her Javelin-coded. Susie on the other hand would make a really good trebuchet projectile. Maybe they could light her on fire for extra damage too.
>>82183292My GOD what a little shit.I love her.
>>82183292One of my favourite tracks.Also, another lovely Veth face.
>>82183292Fucking love your Soogi
>>82163897Me on my way to initiate the superior Susie x Vessel ship.
>>82183465Shaking in their sneakers.>>82183662Breaking through the front door would just be taking too long.>>82183686Susie wants to throw her so bad, but she's kinda scared of hurting her. Noelle would be fine, of course.>>82184282I'm proud of that one.>>82184746Anything in particular? I wanna know what I do right/wrong now and again.
>>82185556Nta who gave the compliment, but you're good at making Susie's head look like reasonable it at unconventional angles. It helps that both you and Toby tend towards the philosophy of making something look "good" rather than "accurate", but getting the snout and the hair to look good when rotated is a good skill.
>>82185556>Anything in particular?Not really about right and wrong, person's for design my preference goes toward muscular tomboy so that's a matter of taste. What I really love is your writing and just how close it feels to the real characters, you really get Susie's personality and her dialogues. I'd say the same goes for the other characters you frequently draw.
Kris playing with Susie' boobs and making them plop on random surfaces all while they both laugh like morons.
This is a random thought but it'd be kind of cool to be friends with Toby. I don't even mean because of the Deltarune/Undertale aspect. He just feels like a time capsule of a human, someone who deeply cares about the things he loves and wishes to preserve them as faithfully as he can. He'd have interesting perspectives on old games and shows and would be happy to talk about them in length in a way that wouldn't be too annoying. It doesn't feel like he's been poisoned by nostalgia but has instead harnessed it into being a muse for his creations.I suppose it's just nice to see a creative with true passion for things.
>>82188612yeah I think that too. Friends are hard to come by, funnily enough.
>>82188707I have seen your blessed art and I thank you
>>82188707Funnily enough you were in my thoughts too, Jell. I don't """"""""know"""""""" you as well as Toby, but you come across as having a similar spark.
>>82188707
>>82183292>Suselle
>>82188810>unfamiliar
>>82188840'fit smells like it and looks like it, then it be it.
>>82188707ha ha hafriends :^)
>>82188612>and wishes to preserve them as faithfully as he can.He's... not exactly as resilient as you make him out to be, I'm afraid to say.>>82188873Giant bed or tiny bods?
>>82188890>He's... not exactly as resilient as you make him out to be, I'm afraid to say.While I don't mean to deify Toby, what do you specifically mean?
>>82188964Well he's willing to compromise on what, at least I would expect, is his game's vision in the face of a sea of misinterpretation. It kinda shows that there is a human element to him beyond the veil and mystique of Deltarune that unfortunately winnows some of the magic and... "teeth" of the project, for lack of a better word. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to, the rose. Toby is very well-organized and quite autistic (in a good way) about his baby, but he's more vulnerable to criticism than he projects.
>>82188873>Veth cross eyed, back arched to display the fullness of her rump, gripping the sheets, moaning>Kris' eyes locked on his lover, involuntarily tiptoeing from his toes curling, hips hammering forward>Both cumming their brains out almost continuously, mixed juices spilling from their unionThese two are utterly lost in passion and it's amazing to behold.That is the fucking sauce right there
>>82188991Eh, I think I know exactly what you mean. Stuff like the petals from the snowgrave route and such.Certainly, Toby's not perfect, but I do think there's a special spark to him that's quite rare for creatives, especially game devs. It's that personal passion that feels important to me.
>>82189008but when *I* hornypost like this elsewhere i just get called a coomer... vgh
>>82189083I love what he's given to the world and back, I will cherish the days of playing Undertale on week two of release with my friend on crapbox laptop in the final days of junior year with all my heart, but at the end of the day he's just a weeb who put in the work and didn't look shameful doing it. Let's not wave his coattails for him.
>>82189087True quality comes from art and character, the characters are enhanced by the great art, but the art is enhanced by the charactersThis would still be a sexy pic if this was posted contextless, but knowing what we know of the characters and their personalities and stories makes it all the better
>>82189129...it's porn
>>82189087Nah, coomers just RP and speak in generic 3dpd porn lingo.>>82189129Exactly.If these were any other pair of characters it would looks at least decently hot.But knowing it's my favorite weirdo, apple scented autistic human boy and an equally autistic, formerly villainous girlfailure genuinely makes it ten times hotter.>>82189135Duh, but it's the GOOD stuff. Heartboner trumps empty boner every time.
>>82189135And?What law is there to say porn can't be intimate and heartfelt?Just because that's the precedent doesn't mean we're beholden to it.
>>82189115>but at the end of the day he's just a weeb who put in the work and didn't look shameful doing itI think it's good to be reserved about praising a creative, but in a world like this I think it's alright to glaze the Tobert a little bit. In the grand scheme of things Toby's done nothing that's truly world-shattering compared to, like, landing on the moon, but the bar's pretty low when it comes to creations like his and I'll be happy to praise him if it's the smoke signal it takes for other creatives to unshackle their autism and make games, shows, and everything in-between from their hearts.
>>82189150>>82189164hey, it's no biggie, i like it a lot too. i just can't take the comments this seriously when it's just, i mean... i dunno, one lineart sketch out of years worth? it's kinda hard to phrase without sounding conceited lmao
>>82189168Oh, bless you and your big heart. I hope he does the right thing moving forward for your sake.
>>82189179lol it’s alright, we *are* quite enthusiastic and earnest here
>>82189179To each their own, I suppose.As for me, I deadass cannot get off if there's no heart in it. Deltarune characters or no. I haven't touched 3d stuff in literal years because it's impossible in that medium.>i dunno, one lineart sketch out of years worth?Now that, I'm not sure if I'm understanding completely. I am a bit retarded. Are you referring to something you drew that caught undeserved flak? What happened?
>>82189210well i'm happy at least someone can drive substance from it, i guess that's what comes with years of effort and...pffft. i'm sorry man, i can't take this seriously. i- i can't even fake a sense of understanding because it's just so unbelievable bloviating lmao. jelly probably drew that in ten minutes or less, and that's deserving of this fake impassioned speech on "heart" or whatever god... i cannot wait to crack this place open over my knee
>>82189249You sound less conceited and more… tryhard 14 year old
>>82189287Every initiating post across the current two discussions has been me. Could you tell? No, wait, I don't care.
>>82189249No one's boasting. It's literally just a statement of taste. That's all we've expressed.You're superimposing intent behind others words that satisfies whatever vague feeling of hostility you're stewing on.You're also literally typing pauses and stutters. Your lines were not written by the novelist you think yourself as.No one is getting broken over your knee. You are powerless.What little power you do have, you have over yourself, not over a thread of strangers on the internet whose tastes you can't dictate or mock into submission.Take your weirdly hurt feelings and go.
Jumping in here. This take might be somewhat spicy, but a part of me believes the notion of "non-coom coom" can invite people into laying it on thick a bit too much. A sort of "I find these things erotic but only in a more cultured way." It invites a sort of factionalist perspective where passionate lewds are held to a higher pedestal than something intended to just get you off. IMO, porn that massages your crotch *and* your heart is just as valid as porn that's meant to critical-hit your kinks and make you blow ropes messily and shamefully. I'm certainly not going to pretend I only climax to the most heartfelt of eroticism.That said, there's a reason people look up to that passionate, intimate genre of lewds too. It's something I really wish I could do more with my art. I'm not that ashamed with how low-brow and more "comedic" focused my drawings tend to be, but it would be nice to explore that sensual side more especially with the characters I really love. I feel like I've made some half-decent attempts before, but I do have this sense that I have to hold back my desire to add in dumb, goofy dialogue that I find amusing. Maybe I'm just too ironic-adjacent to fully embrace that side. It's definitely a big insecurity of mine, but Jelly inspires me either way.(for transparency, I'm /sus/'s local canine artist)
genuinely no idea what is going on. Have a Susie. trying out color again.
>>82181203Haha nothing sillier than picking up your giant dragon gf and weathering the girth of her gigantic tits and hips to breed her womb with the power of DETERMINATION heehee silly thingz
>>82189414As someone who's definitely espoused the heartboner angle, it's a good thing to reset perspective every now and again. Even if our tastes sometimes differ, it gives no excuse to start proselyting. You are right that we sometimes lay it on thick, and for that I apologize on my part.You're a good man, Charlie Brown.>>82189462Insanely cool sooz
>>82189462I can really feel the power of Kris' SOUL shining on this one. Red Buster is such a weird attack, huh? Two world bosses and then Toby just forgor.
>>82189414Didn't read all that but trvor I'm sorry for your loss
>>82189477I know I really thought I was gonna be blasting Rory in the face with it at least a little. If Toby Arakis it then I'll just bring it back I guess.
>>82189496>I know I really thought I was gonna be blasting Rory in the face with it at least a little.Yeah...
>>82189496>If Toby Arakis it then I'll just bring it back I guess.I misread this as >If Toby Arrakis' it
>>82160309This sentence is so retarded.
>>82189513The Mice Must Flow
>>82189462We're just discussing the concept of high-art porn I suppose haha.I like this a lot, though. Your colours are always striking.>>82189473>You are right that we sometimes lay it on thick, and for that I apologize on my part.I don't mean to lecture anyone, but some nuance here or there can help in situations like these. I think it's good to be loud and proud when an artist pushes "porn" in directions that feel meaningful and grounded without mischaracterizing them, but sometimes it feels like it's in spite of other artists who are just drawing "mere porn" in comparison (I see this more elsewhere). I'm fortunate to have dodged those criticisms for the most part, but it's becoming more and more present in the back of my mind these days.
>>82189545>without mischaracterizingBut it's fanon!
>>82189566Sometimes wriggle room is nice, which is something I should've also stressed too. Jelly's the creme of the crop when it comes to Deltarune rule34 IMO, but I'm not going to pretend any of his characters are 100% game-accurate in every lewd situation he's put them in too.It's the verisimilitude that's really important.
>>82189583Yeah... man. I will never understand this outlook.
>>82189545>but sometimes it feels like it's in spite of other artists who are just drawing "mere porn" in comparisonYeah, that's something we should want to avoid. Speaking for myself, I guess I praise that particular brand of lewds because of its relative scarcity. Praise for one thing however, shouldn't be grounds for debasing others tastes. Some people are Ram guys, others are Silverado guys, but just because I love a good 6.7 Cummins means I intend to insult the other guy's Powerstroke. I think the balance to strike here is to say more stuff like "Bro, this thing could tow a fucking mountain" instead of "Bro, this thing could tow 10 Chevies pulling the other direction." I'll be more thoughtful in the future. I'm not here to spit in my /sus/bros' soda.
>>82181203dang i haven't seen whump in here since like... that one time he drew undyne ages ago. cool! also holy COW those are some big sus milkers
>>82189566>>82189583It's kind of like Paleontology.You're never gonna get everythign 100% right because it's impossible. In paleontology, you will never see the animals you study alive and breathing. In smut, you're never gonna see Toby add a 6-hour post-credits Krusie sex scene (sadly).In both cases, you're running on educated guesswork. You'll never see the full thing bona fide before you eyes, but you have pieces you can assemble, and its rewarding to find how things can work.>>82189596>but just because I love a good 6.7 Cummins means I intend to insult the other guy's Powerstroke*doesn't meanmeant to say
>>82189545>mere pornHow mere are we talking when fan characters are in play?
>>82189639There’s nothing mere about Veth she will have you know
>>82189650Thpeak no ill of the Empreth.
>>82189650You speak of mischaracterization, yet when characters are juxtaposed with those not present in the game, the point is made somewhat tenuous.
>>82189613I feel sorta bad for /doe/...
>>82189718fair enough can't really be in or out of character in an entirely noncanon situation, but that's part of what makes the difference between a good OC and a poor OC, at least in my opinion, that they are not treated out of character by the actual characters.everyone hates when the OC is a mary sue everyone loves no matter their established opinions after all. and sure kris isn't an ass obsessed jerker offer in game, but that's the sort of conceits one makes with lewd art and stories lol. Characterization is somewhat malleable to a degree
>>82189718nta but I don't see how.Veth's presence doesn't preclude Kris' character traits, or anyone else's for that matter.Hell, half the reason we like her is how she bounces off them like what we see in >>82183292: Noelle is nervous and distant by Veth's creepiness, then annoyed and powerless against her ragebaiting. Susie's a tower of strength who stonewalls Veth's attempts at manipulation. Kris (as we see in other pics) is befuddled by another human shaped thing in his life and is trapped between wanting to safeguard his happy ending, and trying to save someone who, like he once was, is willing to throw themselves in the meatgrinder for some forlorn purpose. And all that's outside of smut.Like >>82189752 said, a good OC brings out the canon characters' personalities as we know them, and Veth does that very well.
>>82189769yeah idc, i'm just wasting your time lmao
>>82189596>>82189616I appreciate your take, anon. I don't think we all need to put on kid gloves and avoid turning our noses up at coomery porn, though it's still good to be mindful. After all, I'm not going to say no to the occasional really, really lewd drawing from Jelly. I've been loving the tone Jelly's been doing with all of his sexual stuff lately, but I wouldn't want to think he'd be amiss for breaking that mold and going a little sillier or even kinkier. Of course this is where I'm being overly-cautious since Jelly's proven to be more than capable of exercising his freedom in interesting ways.I should do some soul-searching with my art. I know I'm just a perv who likes to draw lewds, but maybe I can try reaching for just a bit more substance. After all, I love our gang and I'd want that to show in my art.
>>82189740things must be really bad there if whump's posting here again
>>82189782do we not generally consider jelly's porn very coomery?
>>82181203Also, I can't believe I missed this. Kris carrying Susie is great sexo-fuel.
>>82189783I checked the thread and he made a Dess over there and nobody even responded to it lol...
>>82189782It's no trouble, Doggo. Take your creativity at your own pace. While I's definitely love to see you expand your art in that way, it would never behoove me to force you.
>>82189505I suspect foul play>>82189513Toby says degenerate and a thousand furries perish instantly.>>82189545Oh, thank you! I love your colors too. When I color I feel like I dont get how to fit it into the drawing. That sound stupid but Im really tired so I cant explain better. You do it well.
>>82189782>I should do some soul-searching with my art.The soul-searching capabilities of... *checks notes* drawing porn.
>>82189789I can only speak for myself, but Jelly tends to weave in character details and handles proportions in a way that really suggests a degree of believability compared to what could be considered coommier depictions of the gang. That said, Jelly's works are quite sexually-charged and unapologetically so. It's actually why I have some opinions on the current topic. His drawings aren't so much high-brow porn as it is lewds that are just done well.
>>82189824proportions definitely are not the make or break for something being coomery>quite sexually-charged and unapologetically soye, lewds done well is like the perfect descriptor desu. it's "clean" in a manner of speaking and effective
>>82189819Waaaaaaiiit a fucking minute, something just occurred to me.What if Kris can occlude options and dialogue? How much can he exercise his will over (our) choices? He refuses to open to closet in the church, he closes his eyes when in the later egg rooms so we can't see; he clearly has some level of agency.What if he just doesn't want us using an option that can actually hurt the knight?
>>82189819Oh, sick! By the way, that whole "Kris' SOUL shining" blah blah blah thing was just me mocking the earlier noxious and lofty descriptors for porn drawings, I just made it very subtle. Thanks for the free art though, artcoomer! Yoink!
>>82189837>What if he just doesn't want us using an option that can actually hurt the knight?oooo that's goodI never really bought into the "Kris has plans within plans about working with the knight for so and so reason"
>>82189848you can fuck off anytime kthnx
>>82189837Nah, that wouldn't check out since if you complete the Sword Route since Kris's attack triples against Tenna and definitely conveys the idea that "you are a piece that I am through with, and I do not care what happens now" that whole situation kinda gives me. Would be the perfect opportunity for Red Buster to return (also Rory Nite isn't the Chapter 3 world boss like King and Queen were
>>82189740why?
>>82189859Pffttt, not my fault you people are so trusting.
I at least prefer this to the other guy
>>82189850>I never really bought into the "Kris has plans within plans about working with the knight for so and so reason"Yeah, he's definitely in this for the long haul. Whatever he has planned, he's going to see it through. If it's a Dess rescue plan like a lot of us have theorized, he's not gonna pull a Rian Johnson SUBVERT YOUR EXPECTATIONS betrayal on the knight.>>82189873Yeah, but there's the difference. He was done with Tenna. He's not done with the Knight, and the last thing he needs is for (us) to fuck that up.
>>82189837Now you're seeing it.>>82189848I'm glad you enjoy.
>>82189882the contrast is response to his art of late just makes me sad, he's been with them for years yet susie has a warmer reception to the first thing he's shared here in eons then a lot of his most recent stuff. idk, it makes me melancholic as a reflect on the fact that i've been here for over three years
>>82189948Jel, the second guy doesn't enjoy. He's just being a retard.
>>82189948alternate universe where veth falls out the window breaks a leg and the darkworld poofsnow the gang's stuck carrying her to the hospital
>>82189949to be fair the subject matter of his art has been becoming needlessly more and more tasteless. him deciding to draw kris as a baby being violently injured by Toriel, or Carol brutally stabbing and goring Susie comes to mind.
>>82189958He knows that, don't be daft. The tactic is to appear courteous when you are being mocked; effective at aggravating the hostile party. In theory.
>>82189986Ah.I'll shut.
I'll admit, I'm afraid I blab too much and wish I could be one of those cool, stoic artists that just drops new art and a few comments. It's something to fix, even if I like talking shop as "me.">>82189819You're welcome and that means a lot to me!>When I color I feel like I dont get how to fit it into the drawingBelieve me, I get it. Sometimes I think "did I really spend all that time learning how to draw lines just to have colors steal 90% of the show?" It's why I started with washed-out colors and such initially before ramping up the vibrancy and saturation over time. It's really all about studying and going out of your comfort zone over and over again. Eventually the lines and colors learn to dance without stepping on each other's toes. I still have a lot to learn though. I think my worst issue is inconsistency.That said, I've loved some of the colored stuff you've done before, even the simple monochromatic ones. You've got a good eye for value and composition. I can't find this one drawing you did of Susie in her date outfit, but I always thought that looked great too with her red jacket and all. You're a peak artist, Jell. I don't think we're ready to see you embracing rendering more lmao.Also I thought you >>82189462 were fridge at first haha. In relation to the current topic that's a good thing I'd argue. I love his colors too.
>>82189995Good, sit down. I'm much better at milking artists for content then you are, after all.
well I sleep sustry not to explode with such a violent hateful argument happening /s
>>82189996>It's something to fix, even if I like talking shop as "me."Nah man, nahWe like it when our artists and writers talk to us. This ain't the Royal Navy in the Napoleonic wars. We don't need to worry about the foremast jacks and the officers fraternizing here. Yapping with us lets us know we're all together in our pursuit of Sooz.
>>82189983idk about whatever that is but he drew some pretty humorous and spicy dessriel for the first time i think like... ever lately and it seems to have activated some complete schizo that is now bringing up other weird stuff he made in the past. idk what to make of it but i feel for the guy
>>82190002... you're gonna milk me..?
>>82190053are you even a mammal?
>>82190024that's pretty lame then. that place seems to be nothing but a breeding ground for schizos now which is one of the myriad reasons i don't go there anymore. place was definitely better when it was a tightly knit community that knew what they wanted out of the thread.
>>82190053All artists are cows; they love being informed that they've inadvertently created content for someone that doesn't care about them at all. It's very freeing, or so I've been told.
>>82190078it's kinda funny you say that since they have an annoying regular over there that who goes off on some other annoying regular who chimes in any time the subject steers away from noelle. i think the dessriel schizo was supporting him... or maybe it's the same person? idkthing is, the first annoying guy i mentioned first posted here after some presumably unrelated party started freaking out over jelly drawing kris and dess together. actually wtf it might be the same guy if he hates that pairinguh sorry for getting wildly off-topic, have some falling goobers
>>82190078It's a tragedy and an example of the perfect storm>Thread too bare from Toby's extended hiatus>New chapters drop and now there's lots of new blood>Showing up at the same time as old shitposters>And /utg/ artists who align more with that thread's culture>Old guard is used to shitposting brigades, tries ignoring it like always>Just results in new blood taking after the shitposters>Exodus of old blood, Thread culture lost>Thread now a hollow mockery of its former self. I haven't been there in months. I really hoped they'd eventually pull through. Pretty naive on my part.
>>82189996>I can't find this one drawing you did of Susie in her date outfit, but I always thought that looked great too with her red jacket and allDamnit, I misremembered. An anon did this color edit back in the day way back in '22. That said, I remember studying the initial Susie drawing for a long, long time. I love the shape language and gesture of her limbs. I still do.>>82190018Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I like the idea of being casual and chewing the fat with you all, but sometimes I'm self-conscious if I'm just moving my "weight" around too much. I get that vibe in other places sometimes, but their "culture" is probably a little different is all.
>>82190139And yet, despite all odds, you always fail to hold drawfags to account. It was artists, both newcomers and regulars, that lit that fire and fueled it. You know what art they drew and what people they encouraged. I think they were just out of touch with their own thread creators if you ask me. The damage is done now anyway.
finding out the guy who was capping all of their stories and greens was a huge kressfag made me depart for a good sad to say
Jeez people, airing of grievances much?
>/sus/ - Cross-Thread Drama General
>>82190122>the subject steers away from noelleWell, it is a thread for Noelle. Generally nobody minded when that happened back then if it was in favor for having an environment to discuss the game's story sincerely. Unless there's an angle there I'm not seeing they can't truly be blamed that much.>>82190139It is ironic that the thread created to get away from /utg/ basically became /utg/-lite: a place with barely any standards and a skewered subject matter.>>82190184It's kind of hard to bring up since you had to be there to witness it, but yeah it certainly didn't help that two different artists were drawing cuckshit when obvious shitposters asked for it, practically giving them ammo. It's why I appreciate artists who actually engage with a thread community like Jelly, Fridge, or Doggo.
>>82190256no i mean like he does that if anybody even dares to so much as post dess once or draw her or express even a shred of speculative interest in what the knight is like, or her parents or even susie just as an adjacent topic in current game information, like chapter 4
>>82190214Armasyll was a blatant outsider. He was in it solely to export it to his discord server, not unlike those indian twitter accounts that post nothing but 4chan screencaps.
>>82190282was he the guy who'd make emotes in posts
>>82190278In that case, yeah, he's a retard that not even old /doe/ would tolerate.
>>82190067Must one be mammal to milk? I dream of a world where anyone can a milking make.>>82190079Sounds kinky.
>>82190289yes.He's from the Kriselle Fans reddit discord.
>>82190302I hope nobody thinks I'm him when I do :^) here whenever I'm being somewhat unserious
>>82190302nah that's not who i'm referring to, he would do like a beak face or something and usually had broken english. who also often asked "who draw dis" or whatever while posting a :vunless that is the same person
>>82190319>unless that is the same personIt is.
>>82190325ohwell it's just odd to point out since over there they have like two or three artists who use that server, including whump. that's how you commission himidk, i don't know how a kriselle thread could support dess and kris as a ship, that's what really damaged /doe/ the most
>>82190302>>82190319Vaalgarth is more to blame for that powder keg kicking off than any other artist, including Ei, who just encouraged it for like a dozen or more drawings for god knows what reason. The Moldesster shit ruined December's image forever, and basically everything now exists downwind of that.
>>82189819Been a while since you've drawn Papyrus, thanks Mister Gelatinous
please do better /sus/.
>>82190338>i don't know how a kriselle thread could support dess and kris as a shipThe funny part is that they never did. Same age Kress maybe would have been tolerated if their community's standards aligned with /doe/'s but Kress fans as a whole generally did not, if anything they had disdain for said standards and sought to subvert it. But also let it be known that Armasyll also dropped their discord here to someone who was posting susie x asgore porn, so they can fuck off forever.>>82190360>The Moldesster shit ruined December's image foreverEven worse is how they're trying to push it into the mainstream for whatever reason. Apparently it's not enough to have fetishes, you actively need to shove them in people's faces.
>>82190406The perception that they've somehow forced Toby's hand from the rather impromptu status update a couple of weeks ago already made them feel like they won, I'm sure. Just as the same behavior worked for guanos and other latam mystery meat making Hitler edits of Toby because they forgot he's a weeb first, an American second and not actually interested in thirdy muds like themselves. March sucked for the Fox, I know that much.
>>82190338I don't even think it's was the ship itself: The idea had been spitballed around some time before, like way back in '22. The consensus seemed to be that it was good as a puppy crush but nothing more, and that seemed to be the end of it.The people who used it to kill the thread pushed it super, super fucking hard, and in the most terminally online way possible. Any time it was called into question, you got the spergiest reply accusing you of hating all content and wanting the thread dead. To this day I still can't tell if it was aggressive trolling, or if these people were that fucking lacking in self awareness to synonymize their braindead shotashit meme spamming with "content" as if it's the only "content" or that our Kriselle art and writing and discussion didn't count as "content" and our continued lauding thereof didn't count.>>82190360Vaal just seems like a fucking moron more than an intentionally malicious actor. From what I've gathered from people he knows, molldesster being made out of his take on Dess wasn't his intention. That said, he clearly was more than okay with it and had no qualms making it worse. Now apparently he's malding that it hit twitter and became mainstream, and now apparently the joke is stale. The irony is sickening.Ei is a reason I'm so glad that sword and fridge and jel and doggo and our other creatives actually engage with us. That guy was just clearly dropping off art in multiple places just for more engagement, regardless of impact. It's pretty fucking shitty because I thought that wasn't the case with him.
>>82190433>molldesster being made out of his take on Dess wasn't his intention.Ohohoho, oh man have I got a bridge to sell whoever got told that then, because he was hard on it pretty much from the get-go. I mean he, verbatim, used the term Moldesster. I could probably dig it up in Desuarchive right now if I wanted to. All those rape faces he made of Dess, the implication she beats him with a bat, touches him and other shit. I remember him making a sassy drawing of her saying "raid" in response to someone effectively calling out his behavior as one, even if it was mistaken and he was just dealing with an artist that clearly has some sick fetishes he needs to get cleared up. It's crazy to me that he's Krusie fan in spite of that. Like... damn, man. 100% BS on his part about it not being intentional, though. That's just ironclad proven by his behavior. I was there for it.
>>82190474Honestly, I'm willing to believe you at this point, and from what I've seen of his behavior, I have little reason to doubt. I would like those receipts though, if you can find them.God, if every dumbfuck redditor went on an all-sleeping pill diet, the world would be better off.
>>82190474>>82190502Okay, well it's not "verbatim" but here he is outright making his thoughts clear on the topic.https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75861676/#q75865404Why would he mald about this? He basically got what he wanted. Dess discussion on 4chan died for this and it swallowed Twitter for like a week. If he did actually use the term Moldesster, it would only be supplementary to this post here.
>>82190474>It's crazy to me that he's Krusie fan in spite of that. Like... damn, man.Is he really one? I've mostly seen him draw Kris fucking his own parents which frankly I don't judge nor care much it's all fictional fetish at the end as long as he doesn't force that everywhere. I think I've only seen one or two drawing he made where Kris was fucking Susie and one was Cuckelle focused.
I just want to say how glad I am that I found this thread after game launch and none other.
>>82190510Well, there it is, I guess.Not shocked, but still disgusted.
>>82190511I definitely don't doubt that he likes them at an aesthetic level, but he does not, under any circumstances strike me as somebody that attributes any semblance of depth to the two. And the busted photo in the background is just the piece de resistance. Horrible.
>>82190398Let's be fair it's /doe/ drama spilling over. Not that I say that with any venom, but it is what it is. I don't try to follow it much but I sympathize either way with the trouble.On a lighter note, I really like our sister thread. I feel like they're the only other people to "match our freak." I'm always rooting for them.
>>82190550>the only other people to "match our freak."There was a guy posting hyperdick infant Kris and Noelle the other day and somebody was effortfully hornyposting in response to him. That boat sailed a long time ago.
>>82190550>I feel like they're the only other people to "match our freak."That was 100% true once upon a time.Your sympathy is nonetheless appreciated.
>>82190527What a shame for a cute strong Susie to be wasted by such a tasteless artist
>>82190078>>82190139You guys are honestly hilarious in that you are too coward to weather the storm on your own thread but annoying enough to keep bringing it up on another thread. Yeah, a 4chan thread gets coordinated raiding, whats new? Back during ch 2 /sus/ got several-month long coordinated raids from other bad actors undoubtedly acting out of discord servers trying to do all of the same shit. Did we have any of /sus/' posters go to /doe/ and shit up a thread for 100+ replies over it? No, we just ignored them and kept on trucking. That you were so hyperbolic in your response to what happened is what gave them the fuel to keep trying it, and honestly you all no longer posting on /doe/ was for the best because it was like the fire being smothered by a lack of fuel. You were weak links and have made no effort to better yourselves.>>82190122It's obvious they are both the same people, imho. It's a two pronged assault to flatten down anything about Dess into being their crackship and to make posting about Noelle just being about saying "deer doe doe deer" 1000 times.
>>82190527She's definitely very sinister and wicked. And a touch enticing for all those taboo reasons.
bugger off
>>82190607>Back during ch 2 /sus/ got several-month long coordinated raids from other bad actors undoubtedly acting out of discord servers trying to do all of the same shit.Oh, I remember. The Imptwins/kimberlyeab cabal and the ralsus shitter? I was here for that.The difference is that /sus/ had the native numbers to weather the storm. This thread had enough people to outnumber the invaders who had been here long enough to recognize bad faith behavior. We didn't. Our numbers dwindled down in the four year hiatus, and when the new blood came, there were too few of us left to sway them away from the bad actors.>That you were so hyperbolic in your response to what happened is what gave them the fuel to keep trying itPardon me for using unironic tumblrspeak, but don't go victim blaming here. Their actions are no one's fault but theirs. Nothing we could have done would have made the situation better or magically gotten the bad actors to fuck off.>inb4 Ignore them, retardWe tried. I did at least. I never brought it up back then hoping it would, as you said, smother the fire. You see how well that worked>It's obvious they are both the same people, imho. It's a two pronged assault to flatten down anything about Dess into being their crackship and to make posting about Noelle just being about saying "deer doe doe deer" 1000 times.On a more agreeable note, you are 100% dead on the money with this. Completely blatant astroturfing.
>>82190637She buggered little Kris off more times than either of them could count. That perverse maladjustment eventually formed an ideal in Kris' mind, a feminine mold to be filled by a certain purple dragon girl who handled him roughly and spoke such deep cutting, venomous words, just like Dess did all those years ago. The cycle of abuse is a circle.
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>>82190607imagine like one longtime artist here, several new ones and ei since he technically drew lovely work here as well, all loosely associating with the idea of susie abusing kid kris or some other suicide-inducing nightmare dream scenario, that's virtually what /doe/ had to go through. artists were drawing this stuff. whump was one of the good few, so was peeb besides one pick of dess cutting kris' shoulder. it just never stopped because the new sketches or art would keep them from dying off
>>82190666>>82190706Look, I don't want to "victim blame" or whatever. I just don't want the drama you couldn't finish on /doe/ to be brought over to /sus/. All I ask.
We’ve had these discussions before, they’ve led to the same points over and over again all ending with somebody shititng up the thread for an hour or two and we move on for a few weeks. The history lessons have been learned, it’s a shame, can we just post Susie and Veth and Kris and have our own fun.
>>82190728>Veth before Kris
>>82190724>>82190728I understand it's getting old to listen to, and I'm sorry.The subject came up, and the steam knob on the pressure cooker just tends to come off. I'll try to exhibit more discipline.
>>82190742Veth is easier to type on mobile for my bigass thumbs the k in Kris is too close to the backspace lol
>>82190751>Veth is easier to type on mobile for my bigass thumbsA fellow ham-handed anon after my own heart.
>>82190762Susie probably types complete gibberish even with spellcheck sometimes, claws and touchscreens probably don’t play well either.
>>82190728While we could stop talking about those parasites we're not going to stop ever mentioning Noelle or her family just cause of a few niggers might react to it. They'll just move onto an other character we care about and then what we remove that character too?
>>82190766Susie could snap a phone in half by just pressing her finger down into the screen hard enough.
>>82190770Hot
>>82190766I miss my physical keyboard phones. Used to get like 200 words per minute on those fuckers.
>>82190791You bet your ass Susie still has a Blackberry,
Susie likes to throw it down. (Her phone)
>whump posts one pic>entire thread goes to shitI am impressed by the power that man holds.
>>82190770Anyone could do that with those shitty modernisation phone
>>82181203can we uhmaybe justsee what she looks like standing up straight next to him loly'know, same size and allas a joke
>>82190897Imagine the size of her torso with melons and thighs like that. That tum must be big enough for Kris to curl up and sleep on top of like a dog. Pacing in circle on all fours randomly at midnight included.
I always picture Veth as like, Dr. Nefarious whenever she's being goofy and truly enjoying herself as being the antagonist of the story. Part of her just *knows* the gang will never seriously do anything to her after a while, so she can be very loose and creative with how she tests them. At most she gets a bit of momentary rage whenever she fails, but failure is just another avenue for learning, innovating, and finding a new way to torment the gang another day.Conversely, the only thing that can make her become scared and apprehensive is if that flow stops. She'd never openly admit it, but in a way she does care about the feelings of her foes. She still wants to... win, and everything, but she'd be a magnanimous victor. If Kris ever locks in, if Susie ever gives her that glare, if Noelle ever looks past her with that thousand-yard stare... it unsettles her in a deep way, reminds her of the feeling of being consumed by the void when she was discarded. She clings to the warmth of her new life fiercely, even if she'd never acknowledge it.If she loses that, and is being more serious and goal-orientated, she loses a lot of the joy in it and becomes more methodical, down-beaten, and depressive. The isolation bears down on her and dulls her mind, to the point where she gets blanks in her memory where she seemingly just goes on autopilot doing things that she is meant to do. She stops taking care of herself, stops talking to people, starts having thoughts that aren't her own.
>>82190948i'm starting to think some of you only come here to talk about veth instead of susie...
>>82190728>>82190748I apologize as well. As someone who frequented both threads it's hard not to get caught up in the matter whenever it's brought up since I spent so much time in both, creating threads, even content. Both communities mean a lot to me, and it sucks that one of them is just gone. I'll stave off from doing it again.
