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/acrg/ - Artist/Commissioner Rant General #1033

Pseudo gay agenda Edition

Remember to SCREENCAP your links so we can laugh when they delete their posts.

Talk about artists or commissioners, mostly the bad ones or those who got under your skin. Share your experiences and get angry with us.

For all artists (and commissioners who are close friends with artists) here, beware of: Horu, Pixxy, OkiOppai, Timedwatcher, AnythingGoes, Skitterleaf, kathielnotfound (Jocelyn Jones), and Snoopcrow/jbunny/j6un9 (jbunny).
They will exploit and/or scam you should they get the chance.

Last Thread: https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/83547146
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made a thread about rule 34 admin "kielan" refusing to get in contract with me although I may continue talking about it in this thread
>>83614953
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>>83616384
Why though? Is anyone actually helping you or does nobody care like I expect?
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>>83616697
rule 34 admin refuses to restore my posts, if I had enough money i would sue them for not restoring all of them.
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>e621 and furaffinity are the internet's last bastion against ai sloppa
Apologize.
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>>83618511
hard to do that when e621 banned all art featuring humans
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>>83616384
fuck off maloneyfaggot
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>>83618511
>e621
>when they have an ai slop offshoot site
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Seeing the Jax tranny reveal on E621 is funny. Older comments using "he" are getting mass downvoted (when the fucking movie referred to the IRL Jax as "he")
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>>83619365
But they didn't, or are you referring to the young human ban but failed to specify such in your post?
https://e621.net/posts/6494479
>>83619478
Yes, all contained to an alt site. That's a good thing.
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>>83619489
Oh yeah, so what's up with that?
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>>83619489
>show creator decides to retcon him into a tranny
>says both pronouns are fine
>trannies decide to become militant on a fucking porn site and try to exert any amount of power by downvoting "he" despite it being kosher

YWNBAW flip a coin and buy a rope
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>>83619896
Trannies are the definition of "give an inch and take a male"
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>>83619556
>But they didn't, or are you referring to the young human ban but failed to specify such in your post?
they might as well have since a post can get banned for being "too human focused"
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>>83619489
really funny how the show never alludes to him being trans at all, and only gives a slight hint last minute. i don't think anyone would come to the conclusion that he was trans if goose didnt explicitly tell people that.
compare that to zooble, who is explicitly shown and designed to be trans from the start
i really think gooseworx only did this because she wanted people to draw jax in a dress one more time before the fandom dies
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>>83621552
It was pretty obvious from the point they put him in the maid dress. They put a lot of extra care into animating his expressions to make it clear he wasn't just feeling plain old embarrassment.
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>>83621623
I mean, I'd feel aroused putting on women's clothing, but I don't want to chop my cock off. I love that thing.
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>>83622088
I think a lot of trans women love theirs too. I don't really see a lot of MTF go through with full transitioning.

Honestly I believe if we removed a lot of hard gender stereotyping a lot more people would fall into a regular healthy neutral the concept of MTF or FTM would be less prevalent
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>>83622117
>I think a lot of trans women love theirs too
Men. They're men.
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>>83617011
No I mean why did you make a thread and why do you post about it?
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>>83622088
Yeah, but Gooseworx doesn't believe that's real and you'd just be a coping boymoder like the real world version of Jax. Knowing who the creator is just narrows it down.

>>83622117
I still feel like transgender stuff is a socially induced self image disorder in the same category as eating disorders and the like. We don't treat those by indulging them, the disorder still makes them feel like they aren't doing enough, even when they're in an extremely unhealthy state.
A huge number of transgender people clearly aren't served that well by the interventions they're getting. They say they're happy, but every community of theirs that I've observed is full of people obsessing over passing better, and usually, it's the ones who already do as good of a job as it's reasonable to expect who are doing it.
They need to make progress for the negative feelings to be tamped down, and as soon as they get as far as it's possible to go, the disordered thinking fixates on every tiny thing because it's fundamentally not objective and rooted in a compulsion for self-hatred.
I think we're doing the vast majority of that community a huge disservice. Don't get me wrong.
I'm not hostile to anyone over such things, and I respect their wishes completely, I do want them to get the best result possible, and that requires proving that I'm not just a hater with a fancy justification.

I get the feeling that even the ones who say they've had those feelings for as long as they can remember are a product our culture being tailor made to make some people extremely fucking jealous of the opposite sex from an early age. Little kids forming a grudge, before they can even form permanent memories, over how the girls are treated and praised openly, and how the boys get to do whatever they want without being heaped with qualifiers and extra expectations and care so little about their appearances in comparison.
We know it can happen later in life, too with the Incel to Trans pipeline and such.
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>>83622440
Honestly I don't go super hard into the psychology of it all. The reality of being trans seems like an annoying path to even have to deal with. The amount of trans folks I've noticed have ideation of self mutilation proves to me that they just don't feel mentally well in their own bodies. I just don't fully know myself how much that is the cause of the society we participate in and it's gender roles and expectations vs them just being truly and unfortunately mentally ill.

Like there will always be someone who wants to be "Pretty like a woman" and that will have nothing to do with Gender as a construct within our society and purely envy of a biological results that rarely has a solution, but I Feel like that just goes into the many types of trans people out there going through their problems.
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>>83620692
I wish the kids weren't so autistic, they'll ban fursuit drawings and anything too human focused but allow posts with only kemonomimi anime girls because technically they're not human
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>>83622541
>human in a costume is a human
>nonhuman with human attributes is not a human
Okay, and?
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>>83622523
We very successfully rehabilitate anorexics, bulimics, and chronic cosmetic steroid abusers on a regular basis. They generally want to be "prettier" than the people who made them feel insecure in the first place, in some way or another, and to wear the evidence of all the effort and hardship they're putting themselves through to achieve it on their bodies. Which, in addition to the toxic feedback loop their communities create, always motivates them to go further.
The common thread between them all is that anyone who says it isn't healthy, or that they'll never be satisfied, just doesn't understand, or they don't know that your only choices are this, or going back to the way you used to be, and you'll never be able to live with yourself that way, so they should shut up and let you make your own choices.

I actually think induced image disorders are getting way more common than they used to be in general, and new kinds are cropping up.
Guys like Clavicular and Andrew Tate are both clearly experiencing something like that.
Clavicular wasn't even ugly in the first place, but he was convinced that he was a sexually unselectable incel in the modern dating economy, which made him pick up a billion stupid little rituals and a system of self-reinforcing jargon before escalating to plastic surgery and other interventions that are literally killing him at this point.
Then on the other hand, there's Tate, who's literally putting on the appearance of a cartoon macho man. Again, with yet another a system of jargon, and a set of rituals like eating dangerous food, getting into peacocking fights all the time, and committing literal crimes, all while taking huge amounts of steroids and believing it's the natural duty of men to be perpetually miserable as they rigorously enforce a Natural Order on everyone around them by way of coercion and violence.
I jokingly call the Clavicle kind "Male to Ryan Gosling," and the Andrew Tate kind "Male to Ghengis Khan."
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>>83622755
I think I can respect this rhetoric, but I'm not trans so it's not very much my problem. I'd reticent to say all territory of trans is a mental health crisis. I do know some people who just don't fit well with the gender role designed for them (Weak men, Masculine women yadda yadda) which is why a lot of them go into androgyny and or MTF but with no full commitments, but maybe those people are just a little bit more well adjusted than the average transsexual who is most likely dealing with a lot of trauma and mental health issues.

But all this from a reveal that Jax is trans. Truth be told I also didn't see it and don't think it was very obvious for I would also be extremely embarrassed being put in a maid dress and don't inherently believe that every color is gendered so a man liking pink is just a man who likes pink.
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>>83619489
>gooseworx said that Jax is his self-insert
>tadc fandom has a nuclear chimp out, accusing gooseworx of being racist/misogynistic/problematic/subhuman and uses Jax being his self-insert as a big reason
>gooseworx essentially says "jax is trans whatever use any pronouns who cares" after the final episode releases
>tadc fandom does an entire 180, going "it all makes sense now!" and just completely walking back all the bullshit they were chimping out about toward gooseworx
the tadc fandom is composed entirely of nigger cattle
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You guys are way too invested into something you supposedly don't like.
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>>83623305
hard not to be when the vomit of others is forced down my own throat
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>>83622541
Kemonomimi counts as furry in e621 which is why they’re not granted the “not furry” tag. What is odd is they allow elves and pointy ear humans like Hylians.
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>>83622869
>I would also be extremely embarrassed being put in a maid dress
I personally thought they did a really fantastic job of showing he wasn't just feeling normal embarrassment. His expression twists and strains to show you he's desperately fighting not to hint to anyone that it feels good to him. Then, once he gets a handle on that, he pretends like it never bothered him, then flies into a rage as soon as it's gone. I don't know how the idea that he's having extremely conflicted feelings doesn't come across there.

>>83623305
I did like it, though. Gooseworx just fucked up and made the ending more confusing and controversial than it needed to be because no one on the team, including her, was able to take a step back and realize that most other people would be interpreting the work with way less trans culture context to work from, and that it might not go over well to make Jax such an unfavorable stereotype.

It's a good show that had a catastrophic fumble at the end. This was a series that even right wingers were watching intently despite the person behind it. That's how much cultural cache it had. That's why so many people are talking about it. It's basically the modern day equivalent of Twin Peaks going out in a disaster with Fire Walk With Me.
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>>83623085
I stopped watching TADC after that scene of Gummigoo getting wiped out by Caine because 'le epic randomness.'

Glad I didn't miss out on anything.
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>>83619489
>tumblr troon makes animated show for other tumbler troons
>its troon fanbase in incredibly unhinged and psychotic about a fucking cartoon
>troon creator says one of the main characters is basically a projection of themself
>also decides to reveal said character was trans all along

Every piece of drama I read about this show is so uninteresting because it's the most predictable shit imaginable.
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>>83619489
>character is an unstable, irredeemable asshole
>is revealed to be trans
What did they mean by this
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Imagine a timeline where Jinu didn't go on "Hiatus" and just doubled down on the filth and taboo ageplay stuff after his ERP chats and secret scat alt account got leaked.
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>>83625692
NIGGERMEAT
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lolicon is pedophilia
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>>83625692
>secret scat alt account got leaked.
artists need to learn to either keep their """secret""" art to themselves or few people they really trust. idk wtf he was expecting having a clique of people, cause realistically you don't know if those people will share it to their friends and so forth
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>>83619489
It's like the troonslop version of "You burn the coal, you pay the toll", where you eventually get vulture'd by the swarm of groomed tranny teenagers if you fail to perform their raindances by a single beat.
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>>83625949
OBSESSED
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>>83624064
I gave that a pass at first because I thought it might mean something but he doesn't even get a fucking cameo in the finale.
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>>83622541
i'm all for banning human centric posts and fursuit drawings, but it is really annoying that jap humans with strap on ears and strap on tails are allowed to stay up. they should be deleted as well.
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>>83623407
>including her
Him
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>>83625954
Whats wrong with PhilAdelphia?
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>>83626031
Erm rain dances are an offensive stereotype
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>>83619467
no one cares about your ragebait against someone who got banned from rule 34
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>>83626983
you really don't like trans people, huh?
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>>83627080
>someone
You mean (You)
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so is Kemono fucked for everyone for just me?
For a month or two now, all images and links on it just doesn't load anymore. Is that a me issue, or is it sidewide issue that they're not fixing for some reason?
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>>83628571
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>>83627936
instead of complaining about me, you should complain about rule 34 admins acting retarded and how they censor the mentions of my username and bans everyone who mentions me.
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>>83627660
>you really don't like trans pe-ACK’
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>>83627660
Nope.
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>>83627660
>trans
>"people"
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>>83627660
I don't hate them either, but buddy, you're on 4chan ffs
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>>83627660
I hate liars and tyrants, and being a tranny requires someone be both.
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>>83625692
POOP
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>>83627660
why is this thread so fucking easy to bait
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>>83630650
Poe's law. Bait is indistinguishable from genuinely retarded opinions these days
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>>83625987
>artists need to learn to either keep their """secret""" art to themselves
or they can just stop being pussies
you're popular, you can rape someone and no one will care
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Are there any examples of high tier online artists (as in, really skilled ones, both NSFW and SFW) only getting popular online and an actual audience in their 30s and beyond (ESPECIALLY if they really started drawing later in life)?
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>>83631520
just start drawing man, each day you don't it only gets harder. dont worry too much.
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>>83631430
>Bait is indistinguishable from genuinely retarded opinions these days
Just you.
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>>83631520
>thinly veiled gabe post
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>>83631577
>each day you don't it only gets harder. dont worry too much.
Just start genning AI
Each day you wait, it only gets easier as models evolve
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>>83618511
>>83621552
I thought it was blatant that zooble and jax were meant to be lgbt foils of each other. Zooble represented an open self-loving one and Jax represented a closeted self-hating one. It's hinted that Jax wasn't open because he feared being ridiculed for it, and it's a conflicted that lgbt people have.

I think goose outed him in response to corporations like Disney banning trans representation from their media. They censored representation about them from a Pixar show and a Moon Girl episode. A lot of conservative politicians are trying their hardest to remove lgbt representation from the private and public sector so that people wouldn't hear about their lived experience, they'll lose in the long run though.

Big corporations will comply in the long term, whereas indies with free software have nothing to lose.
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>>83629647
so what's the alt name?
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>>83631786
This, youll never be a darkgem or dacad, so just do what works and gets you horny
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>>83622440
None of it is a social contagion, it makes no sense to adopt an identity where you lose your rights and are abused by everyone. You're just more seeing people identify as trans because you're in an era where lgbt people are no longer raided or entrapt for asking people out at a bar. It's the same reason why more people identified themselves as being left-handed after they stopped being beaten and killed for it by religious conservatives. It's still not perfect for them, mind you, but it is better than being charged with sodomy laws.

Trans people are more transparent about their feelings online because they don't have anyone else to tell their problems to. Everyone else has problems in the world, but they're permitted to partake in institutions where they can vent their issues to a coach, conselour, relative, priest, etc.

In contrast trans people are prevented from partaking in a variety of institutions that we take for granted and as a result, they're more vocal online. If they're banned from owning drivers licenses like they are in a red state Kansas, then of course they'll prefer to use the internet than be called slurs on the street lol.

A lot of you have the false impression that they lack self-awareness, but they are very self aware far more than most. The majority of them are cranky because they get a ridiculous amount of harassment online and offline. They're living life on NG++
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>>83632490
POOP
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>>83625692
>>83629647
>>83632787
I like them
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>>83631520
aduran started in his 30s and is top tier.

you dont need ai, you just need to do courses from schoolism
-fundamentals of lighting by sam nielson
-creature anatomy by terryl whitlatch
-dimensional drawing work out by wouter tulp
-environmental design workout by nathan fowkes

all can be seen for free on bilibili (chinese youtube). I am biased since these are intermediate level.

Games like art academy for the ds are beginner level and can be emulated online

if you hate doinf courses from schoolism, you just need to add colors for:
midtone
shadow
ambient lighting (reflexted light from background)
highlights

use a lasso tool for your shadows and blend it (or use gradients)
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>>83632490
>>72519528
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>>83632151
See you make the mistake in thinking that tranny shit in media was normal and that the removal of it is corporate interference, when in reality it is the opposite. We know this is true because the companies proudly proclaim they are doing this.
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>>83632624
Trannies are not banned from driving.
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AI can't draw intestines so I win
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>>83633625
there's a few reasons to be drawing intestines.
what are yours
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>>83633426
No dude they're literally banned from driving. It's literally impossible to drive if there's an M on your license instead of an F. Even though licenses specify sex and not gender so it shouldn't be a point of contention to begin with. These are sane people we're talking about and we need to respect them and cater to their feelings.
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>>83632787
oh lol
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>>83632787
What's wrong with scat?
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>>83619489
>>83623085
>>83624960
Personally, I never cared about TADC, and to be honest, I'm glad I didn't.
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>>83633769
I have a great reason
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>>83634651
could you elaborate just a little bit more here you've made me more interested
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>>83634843
Fulltour vore as god intended
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>>83635096
hell yeah
desperately, desperately need more depictions of this. thanks for doing the lord's work.
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meko is back… kinda…
I wonder if he’s still have the idea to make a nsfw patreon featuring charlotte blacked porn?
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The monkey is out of his cage again
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>>83634446
Should I be glad that I managed to resist the temptation to watch TADC (although I've seen brief clips of it) from the day it's published into the internet until now?
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>>83635158
I blame Saberspark and his BM review video for marking the birth of maloneyfag
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>>83635435
I feel proud.
I think I saw the first episode but the memory of it is so fuzzy that I must've actually tabbed out while it played in the background
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>>83635454
same, although the li speaks review was way better.
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>>83635549
>>83635454
>>83635158
Fuck off maloneyfaggot
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>>83635435
I was kinda curious because of the clussy but hearing all this shit now I'm glad I put that shit on the backburner, I'll just fap to the blender porn people make of the fortnite model
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>>83635799
no >:)
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>>83635435
You had the temptation? I've never thought about watching it at all
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>>83627660
>>83632624
I don't hate them. I just think they're the same as an anorexic or bulimic, so I'd prefer if they found a healthier way that doesn't require indulging an ever receding self image problem that can never be satisfied properly. At no point am I calling it a "social contagion," "voluntary," or "a cult." It's not. It's people who've internalized a really unhealthy mental model of what's expected of them in society because of the sex they happened to be born as, to the point their own feels like a burden, and the other, or none at all, feels like freedom from an expectation to perform a given role. In exactly the same way that an anorexic has an unhealthy model of what it takes to be desired in society, to the point that they feel like starving themselves and weighing nothing makes them free from temptation and social pressure

Every trans person I've talked to online, or in real life describes their dysphoria symptoms exactly the same way that someone who has an eating disorder describes their own, and I've spoken to plenty of both.
It's always "looking in the mirror and feeling like I don't fit inside my own skin"
It's constantly feeling like every glance from a stranger is a form of judgement.
And it doesn't go away, even if they're all skin and bones, or at risk of a huge heart attack from steroids, or in the case of transgender people, even if they pass relatively well. It doesn't go away when they achieve their goals, because the disorder always leads to more nitpicks, reasons to doubt oneself. All the support in the world doesn't help because it all rings hollow. They're not looking for approval from the outside world, or to belong. The thing they have in common is that they've trained themselves into baseless self-hatred that's the point and not the motivator.
They're not being driven to reveal a true self, It's a state of constant pathological self-criticism just becomes the default.
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>>83635804
This.
I admit I do find the porns hot even tho I didn't watch the show in my whole life.
>>83635951
Blame the fags who keeps pushing that shit in my social media feeds for that. Even my friend suggested it.
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>>83636137
You are literally brazilian >>80818564
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>>83636403
Anon Brazilians are 99.9% Aryan Germans
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>>83636487
no thats argentina not brazil
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>>83636487
gauchos exists
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>>83637131
Half of brazil are niggers, and a quarter is black people
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>>83637188
and the islamic immigration in Germany is putting the white race into extinction
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bump
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>>83632787
What's with these twitter artists and having the same fetishes and they're all the same gross out fetishes too
Ass obsessed, sweat/musk, bad smells, scat farts, smegma, yellow cum
It's really weird
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Asshole got himself stranded in Vietnam and now I'm never getting my commission.
https://x.com/Kagana_Helsuki/status/2069615521562349698
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>>83640777
https://youtu.be/sf_vgo4sM1U
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are sharteens actually stupid teenagers or grown men who didn't grow up after their teens?
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>>83641206
A mix of both, but most of those immature adults just migrate to KiwiFarms
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>>83641206
They're jewish.
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what do you do when one of your posts suddenly blows up?
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>>83633402
It's the opposite, it predates media stuff.
>>83633426
>>83633912
They are banned from driving. In theory, they are permitted to drive again by changing their sex. In practice, they aren't able to change it because they weren't given a grace period and their appearance doesn't match their identity of that lanel. It has to be reapproved by the transphobic state that suspended their license to begin with. A lot of them will tell you this.
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>>83641206
underage children and slavs from anti-lgbt countries
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>>83635960
I disagree, I think they become mentally better from transitioning in spite of still having problems. I noticed that they become extremely more expressive, ambitious, and hardworking like gooseworx, b0tster, and puppychan/wolfentinger from having a renewed purpose in life. Their art and projects post-transition either improved or increased in sheer output.

In contrast a lot of ex-lgbt types that I've seen look normal on the surface, but they lost all ambition to do anything. It's sad seeing them because they're dead inside and don't work on stuff anymore. Probably because they fear relapsing.

I'm not saying that everyone should use HRT or suck dick to cure their depression, but it really works for some to embrace their identity.
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>>83639995
autism or porn addiction

in this case most likely porn addiction
When you look at a lot of porn all the time, normal things become gradually more dull and uninteresting so you start to seek out new highs.
>watching girls doing missionary is kinda boring now I'm into doggy
>watching doggy is kinda boring now I'm into anal
>watching anal is kinda boring now I'm into femdom
>watching femdom is kinda boring now I'm into femboys
>watching femboys is kinda boring now I'm into feminization
>watching feminization is kinda boring now I'm into chastity
>watching chastity is kinda boring now I'm into netorare
>watching netorare is kinda boring now I'm into sph
>watching sph is kinda boring now I'm into blacked
>watching blacked is kinda boring now I'm into interracial gay sex
>watching interracial gay sex is kinda boring now I'm into gay rape
>watching gay rape is kinda boring now I'm into bdsm
>watching bdsm is kinda boring now I'm into torture
>watching torture is kinda boring now I'm into ryona
>watching ryona is kinda boring now I'm into asphyxiation
>watching ryona is kinda boring now I'm into peril play
>watching peril play is kinda boring now I'm into light guro
>watching light guro is kinda boring now I'm into guro/snuff

Etc, it's a snowball effect.
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>>83644604
>When you look at a lot of porn all the time, normal things become gradually more dull and uninteresting so you start to seek out new highs
ive never understood this "truism". Most people watch tame shit over and over ad nauseum and barely venture outside of their tastes.
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>>83644604
I have been drawing and watching porn since I was 16 and have been in this bitch for 14 years. If I can say anything I'm probably the typically described "Porn Addicted" Individual, the furthest I get into fetishism is intent and taboo. The most erotic thing to me currently is sexual intent and something I refer to as "The betrayal of the sacred duty" but can probably be placed into the realm of "Power Dynamic Play" This all still manifest very vanilla realm of missionary and doggy style, but I'm slowly starting to understand the reasonings for why women enjoy things like 50 Shades or Twilight.

A lot of what you said I've gathered an understanding of what people like them, but I've never felt the desire to go down those path myself. At most I'd wanted some Female boss abusing her power on a young male subordinate, but not in a "Femdom" way but just in the "I know I'm doing something wrong but I don't care" way. The mental scape of taking action vs the action itself. You'd think I'd be more into Netorare but surprisingly I'm not.

With all that said. I believe what you're stating happens more with hypersexuals/nimphos, not your regular porn addicted normie that just wants to see the same ol shit everyday (Which a large majority of normies tend to be)

>>83644654
Having interacted with hypersexuals who are still discovering themselves. I understand where the idea comes from, but I don't think it applies to all porn artist/porn enjoyers.
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>>83644654
they don't look at porn enough, they're still slaying boars in the starting area while we're minmaxing rare loot in the endgame
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>>83644870
>With all that said. I believe what you're stating happens more with hypersexuals/nimphos, not your regular porn addicted normie that just wants to see the same ol shit everyday (Which a large majority of normies tend to be)
This might be true, I've been an incel for most of my life so never has much chance to think of myself as hypersexual. Though when I did have a girlfriend a few years ago she eventually got tired of how many times a day I wanted to fuck.
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>>83645151
I suppose that's why it's called porn "Addiction" but to assume all porn addicts go down deeper and darker paths would be like assume all potheads eventually become meth heads or speed junkies. Like the people who were gonna become speed junkies already have impulse control problems not every chases the bigger high.
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>>83644604
>>83644870
As someone who is most definitely hypersexual and did escalate pretty far, the part that bothers me about that outlook is that it paints it as a one-way road. Speaking from experience, while yes, some of the shit I'm into would disgust anyone normal, it's not like I can't get off to perfectly vanilla loving missionary sex. Or even less.
I mean I can't speak for everyone who could be defined as 'hypersexual' but the problem for me was never that some things no longer cut it, it's that everything does sooner or later. It's not exactly a great feeling, when the question when faced with some new shit isn't "will this awaken something?" but rather "how long will my brain take before it files this under 'pure sex' along with everything else"

Admittedly, I also have enough impulse control and self-awareness never to post about anything past 'socially acceptable (online) levels of weirdo', so I guess that's where the autism factor comes in with the types of artists in question.
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>>83645366
>>83645514
I suppose I'm just speaking from a point of bias and personal experience. Maybe not everyone walks the same road as I do, but this particular artist does seem like one of the dudes that did.
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>>83645514
>>83645544
I suppose I'm just getting to the idea that Porn Addiction doesnt create hypersexualization, you're either are hypersexual or your not, but that doesn't really determine your raw intake of porn. Again I'm actually pretty low of the scale of sexuality. I draw porn because porn is a fun little baseline of exploration, but even back when I use to RP, majority of the time I hated ERP, because it had no substance. ERPers just like to typefuck to typefuck. There is no grander narrative or build up and nothing about that is at all fun to me.
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>>83645514
>while yes, some of the shit I'm into would disgust anyone normal, it's not like I can't get off to perfectly vanilla loving missionary sex.
absolutely in the same boat there
With porn I'm into all sorts of nasty shit, but with an actual sex partner in real life I'm still pretty vanilla.while I'd be open to try certain kinks out in real life, there's a whole lot of difference between looking at a pictures and fantasizing about nasty shit and real life where you can actually experience that nasty shit. Pictures don't smell.
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>>83645578
I'm into a lot of weird shit but I don't draw even half of the weird shit I'm into. I guess I don't have autism because there's still a level of shame to having the whole world know what I'm into. Also hate RP, I'm a much more into visual stimuli.
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>>83645612
>I'm still pretty vanilla.while I'd be open to
there was supposed to be a dot there,. sorry for the retarded sentence structure
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>>83645639
Actually you know what I can say that most of us can probably agree with. Our tolerances for stranger sexual preferences is probably a lot higher than an average normie. Normie would see people who'd want to fuck a Boo and be like "Wtf is wrong with you." I see someone who wants to fuck a boo and go "Oh damn interesting, does that extend to like goombas as well?
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I know normies are into same shit we are they just shame themselves over it and sometimes don't even know what a fetish is, leading to all kinds of weird behavior
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>>83645724
>Projection
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>>83645739
NTA but like come on you've seen enough closeted gay people in deny due to like religious reasons enough to know it's not some rare thing. In fact sometimes I find it's the repressed who can often be the freakiest because they're constantly holding back
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>>83645724
Most normies are weirded out by the most tame kinks man, fuck are you talking about
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>>83645767
You're talking about Republicans or politicians who get caught being degenerates. Still, just anecdotal individuals. The overwhelning majority of people are into tame shit. Look at the most trending porn catagories and you'll see that. Just because a twitter artists gets 60k likes on bestiality doesn't mean everyone is suddenly okay with it. You're watching too much porn if you think this.
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>>83645811
>Normies are okay with bestiality
/Acrg/ is the only community I've seen say stuff this retarded.
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>>83645811
No no no, not at all. It's not about being tolerant of fetishry or kingdom. I would agree that most normies are actively stringent on what they accept. I'm more discussing the point that most if all normies have like ONE thing that they're too embarrassed to talk about. It it tends to only really be that ONE THING. (Honestly I would say Foot fetish gets into deeper territory of fetish that is fairly common but still not common enough to be seen as extremely standard)

I kinda see it like going to a donut shop. If you're there, you're most likely going to get something tried and true, why waist your time and money on experimenting with something you may or may not like in the sake for self discovery. You get your standard donut and then leave. You don't even give yourself the chance to discover what you may or may not. That's how I see most normies.

>>83645819
I think he's saying the opposite. I don't think anyone here is actually saying normies are okay with bestiality.on a broad scale
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>>83645869
On reflection, I'd probably say that most people on this board have explored their sexual preference more than most average normies do. IF you like Femboys, HMNOFA, Bleached, Blacked, Feet, Furry in general, Futa, Hyper, etc etc.

If you expressed some of the basic preferences this board has on baseline to a normal person they'd probably look at you strange.
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>>83645270
If "anal vore" is shoving someone up your ass, is "reverse anal vore" just shitting someone out?
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>Is into fat-fur blobs
>Not into that IRL feederism shit in the fat-fur because some creepy asshole was pressuring me into doing that shit years ago
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>>83645724
This is what lolifags tell themselves about jerking off thinking about little kids so they don’t have to admit to themselves how fucked up they are. It’s quite literally cope.
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>>83646273
To be fair with some things all you can do is cope.
Yeah I know haha edgy 'literally kill yourself if you're into X' but that's not how most people work.
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>>83645690
If anything I'm usually the one who'd look at a boo like "Damn, I'd hit that". But yeah I came across furry art of tiny toons and lola bunny when I was like 12 and I never made any real distinction between that and regular drawn hentai, to me it was and still is just different flavors of cartoon porn. At this point I'm extremely desensitized to all drawn porn, I feel a lot more judgmental towards artists drawing bland run of the mill fotm stuff than I feel for people drawing weird kink shit that doesn't appeal to me.
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>>83646389
Honestly I was on that young newgrounds kick during the early internet era just seeing a gambit of different styles of porn from Betty Brick house to High Tail Hall, Hentai Kitty Quest...weird sexually charged animations made my Stamper, Alien Rape games, Every variation of anime dating sim games, Pokemon Porn, Pokemon Snap XXX. It was over before I even began man. I was damn cooked.
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>>83646089
giwtwm
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>>83646349
considering the whole 18+ thing has only been law in the US and not even the whole world for about 100 years and for the other 350k years of mankind's existence women were considered prime real estate the moment they had their first period I'd wager that the vast majority of the world's male population are still biologically hard coded to desire fucking teenagers. The idea that normal men want to fuck women above 18 rather than settle for it due to it being the agreed upon reasonable standard for consent is to me, complete delusional cope. I think a lot of people virtue signal because they are ashamed of their real feelings not being aligned with what the law saw is morally good, but common sense and statistical data tells me we're all just pretending we're anything more than just animal brained monkeys deep down. I am not saying this as an endorsement for violating your country's laws for consent, only that those laws exist because men have restraint not because they don't have copious desire. Epstein Island is a perfect example of the kind of people ordinary men are behind closed doors.
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>>83646646
>Epstein
>Ordinary men
>Literally the elite of the elite

I disagreed with previous anons but now i have to. How the fuck are you guys this retarded.
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>>83646683
So what, were those people just biologically born as elite of the elite through eugenics or are they not ordinary men given power? Do you think these people became pedophiles because they are rich? I think it's far more likely that were always pedophiles, being rich is what made them finally able to feel like they'd get away with it.
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>>83646753
Do you think the average guy is a pedophile?
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>>83646786
Yes. 99.99% of your ancestors were smashing 13 yo puss.
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>>83646848
Why are you faggots like this.
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>>83646646
Look man I was with you until you accelerated right past "changing laws won't change what may be nearly hardcoded as viable partner" and directly to "anything past 18 is expired and mere necessity and nobody would ever unless they had to"
Like that's just fucking stupid, man. You think every teenager's somehow making up finding their teachers hot? Or every other instance of desiring not just same-age but older women is bullshit somehow?
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>>83646848
21st century humans take 37 years to develop to adulthood
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>>83646786
No. Hebephiles, and opportunists. Same for women. I think the reason you don't have more people violating the law isn't because they don't want to, but because the cost of doing so outweighs settling for a less attractive woman above the age of consent. Actual prepubescent attracted people are still an outlier, not that being attracted to minors is the only qualifier for being a pedo.
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>>83646881
>>83646896
he's right, you know.
desiring older women is an anomaly like it always has been, it's just a lot more accepted now. and yeah, obviously children are going to find their teachers hot when they're locked into schools for 8 hours a day, which for the record is another very modern invention.
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>>83646896
Women are biologically in their prime fertility in their teens, so fuck yes I think the vast majority of men would really want to fuck teenagers if they were allowed. And sure, not all men. However, believing it is in any way normal to be attracted to older women is just as delusional as thinking it's normal to be attracted to kids. On an average, I think a huge portion of the world's population are hebephiles. It's what makes the most biological sense, not what makes the most sense morally.
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>>83646927
I actually started writing a whole paragraph about how that's fucking stupid and doesn't address the question of approximately-same-age attraction (which I'm sure you'd argue is unnatural too), but then I realized there's no point, because you're desperate to project your preference onto everyone and will simply dig your heels in and insist everyone's personal experiences are either an exception/anomaly or self-deception. I've had this kind of retarded non-discussion too many times. I'll pass.
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>>83646976
>Women are biologically in their prime fertility in their teens
Literally a google search disproves this. They're in their biological prime in their early to mid 20s.
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>>83647017
NTA and honestly I'm kinda confused by this conversation. I would think anyone from ancient times would look towards health/strong partners to procreate with. I would think that our ancestors would understand that there is such a thing as "Too young to give birth" leading to even high mortality rates in both child and mothers.
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>>83646982
That's fine, but also cope.
Anyway the point I want to arrive at is this:

You should be thanking god that loli/shota art exists and that there's pedophiles that have enough restraint to settle for fapping to cartoons over harming real children. "Killing all pedophiles" as a solution is more delusional cope than killing every ant, it does not solve pedophiles existing and being born every minute of every day. People having a legal non harmful substitute to choose mitigates crime, making loli illegal and hunting those who fap to it drive the people actively trying to avoid causing harm right into the welcoming open arms of deepweb pedophile rings looking for new recruits. If you have any at all doubt in what I say is true, just compare Japan's statistics for child sex crime compared to countries where loli is illegal on the same level as actual cp.
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>>83647610
The dude’s been had a baraag for the longest time, you’re just now realizing he does toddlercon?
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>>83646753
Brother they were worse than just pedophiles. You can't point to a place elites went to mutilate, torture, sacrifice and eat children and then go "normies are just like this in private" It's just not true in anyway, at all.
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>>83647869
It's either bait or genuine retardation. No point in trying to out debate it.
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>>83646848
>>83646646
>>83646909
>>83646976
Dangerously low amounts of testosterone.
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>>83647869
Not all normies sure. Enough of them that there's people you recognize and you wouldn't have immediately suspected that went to the island. The belief that evil acts can only be done some sort of mythical beings different from ordinary humans and that you can easily tell them apart from anyone else, is exactly how these people walk among your peers unsuspected and unknown.
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Homie is the Joker of Pedophilia. "Introduce a little chaos and everyone become a pedophile."
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>>83648461
I'm just saying you're naïve, you're thinking emotionally rather than rationally and because of it you see the world for what's comforting to believe rather than for what it actually is. You're an animal, they're animals, we all do what animals do. No amount of pretending we're special will ever make that go away.
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Anyway I'm going to go draw lesbian furry porn now, have a good evening!
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>>83646273
>This is what lolifags tell themselves about jerking off thinking about little kids so they don’t have to admit to themselves how fucked up they are. It’s quite literally cope.

I will reiterate
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>>83632904
>all can be seen for free on bilibili (chinese youtube)
I'm looking for the light one but all I've found is the hour talk he gave. Could you pastebin some links for them or something?
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>new deltarune chapter just dropped
>goes ALL IN on suselle, to the point where kris is practically turned into a cuck
>/sus/, /doe/, and /hmofa/ in absolute shambles
You LOVE to see it
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>>83634352
POOP
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>>83650641
Big win for queer representation. Anything else is ooc and non-canon fanfiction
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>>83650641
i would have hoped absolutely everyone would lose in the end, as i hate all of these characters with a passion, but i will take upsetting hmofa and their ilk for the time being.
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>>83632609
I was decent but couldn't draw freehand well for shit until my 20s then i started picking up doing figure studies from various sites like lineofaction
not super long sessions, maybe a few minutes every so often, then more
it became a habit before drawing, i would do quick sessions. it's a warmup thing, and it helps you learn pieces of the puzzle so you can draw without heavy reference usage.

got pretty good
I'd show my art but I'd be crucified, so just believe me when I tell you that you are better than any ai slop shit the internet has to offer.
and yes 30+
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>>83651598
Meanwhile I have good foundations and some talent and can draw well here and there but have absolute autist brain when it comes down to it to the point now when I try I hate it the second my pencil hits paper, AI at least lets me feel like I can create something again
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>>83651756
is this bait
yes it takes time, that's the whole point. it's supposed to hurt. pressing the silly create button on a laundry list of prompts isn't creating, it's mimicking what's already out there

threads here are full of people that are just about as useful as a perpetually damp blankets
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>>83651869
Not bait, just how it is.
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>>83650641
Sorry is this a deltatroon thread? No? why are you are
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>>83650641
Anything that pisses off hmofa fags is a win in my book. Fuck them
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>>83651756
>AI at least lets me feel like I can create something
"I went in to a drawthread and asked for peach with a big ass. I made this drawing."
No retard you aren't creating anything by asking a computer to shit out slop
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>>83652013
I dont go to drawthreads.
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>>83652013
nta but have frequented draw threads for years and never having a request acknowledged, combined with grinding relentlessly to make halfway decent art for threads that never gets a single (you) I kind of see where they're coming from. Getting good at prompting is easy and you can make whatever you want. Makes me regret all that time I wasted trying to achieve the same result by hand.
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>>83652176
>you can make
No retard numero two, you didn't make it. You proompted a program and it shat it out. You did nothing. You learned nothing. You are worthless.
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did e6 shat itself
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>>83652202
Are you one of those clout chasing failed artists thinking ai will take your craft away when you arent even good enough to be in the tagset like real artists that are good enough on their own to not have to worry abput it?
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>>83652202
lol what do I lose by prompting? The respect for niggers like you who never gave me the time of day in the first place? Yeah I'm really broken up over that... Gonna have to rethink my whole life here. Not.
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>>83651306
>>83651998
What do you guys have against hmofa?
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>>83652232
it seems to be one of those days where all the sites hosted by cloudflare have to take turns on the one working cloudflare server, scryfall was down earlier.
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>>83651142
I hate how schizo simplypm is about Piko's brap/scat art. Goes on random destroy sprees and pretends like the fetish stuff of her never existed, only to bring her back and commission a shitton of more stuff, only to nuke it again. Fuck, I really liked some of those videos he has on the secret youtube channel before he nuked all of them. I saved all the images he posted but weren't smart enough to save the videos.
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Prompters are so funny because they have the lamest, least creative ideas ever and then get mad that real artists don't want to draw generic garbage all the time.
Prompting is for lazy, uncreative people who lost the ability to feel joy in their hearts.
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>>83652575
Oh there's new stuff? Did any of it make its way to exhentai or is that just the stuff before the first wipe? And videos too? Sounds like I've missed alot, I love the character and her accidental raunchiness, it makes me laugh
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>>83652590
Spoken like someone who wishes they were a real artist
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>>83652741
He was posting all of his shit on a hidden twitter account, and uploading videos to a hidden youtube account. Don't appear to be on sadpanda sadly, it's possible he's gone there and requested a takedown.
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>>83650641
>People are flummoxed that a game with a huge faggot fan base and most known for its nonbinary MC and goat mage that everyone likes drawing as a crossdressing twink doesn't appeal to straights
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>>83652831
I just dont get it, he obviously likes it, knows we all know about it, knows a large chunk of us also like it, and then has the classic account wipe melty still, hes never going to outlive the piko hypershit reputation, but thats alot better than having the delete your artwork reputation on top of being a we all know youre still into it scatfag reputation
Hate i missed his revival
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>>83652920
Yeah, I liked his stuff too. Seems to be the character he uses for DND in real life or some shit too so maybe it's that he doesn't want people in real life to find out or maybe it's that good artists don't want to draw regular commissions with her if they know she's a brap character. But yeah, feels like a pretty damn open secret that Piko's got a ton of brap/scat art
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>>83652920
Oh, his alts name was comflify9. You might be able to find some stuff using that tag rather than his usual one
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>>83653410
Probably private on Twitter if I had to guess though
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>>83653440
He took all his piko stuff down from twitter, that one only has some pokemon character stuff. I was more referring to sadpanda.
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>>83653517
Ahh, will give that a shot when im back home, I always just searched by character
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>>83653204
send that image to a muslim
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>>83641206
Brown
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>>83652350
For some, hating on things is a substitute for having character.
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>>83652279
just keep the slop AI makes for you to yourself, no one else wants to see it
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>>83656088
False
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>false
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>>83652350
Y'know what hmofags say about furfags? That they're misanthropic faggots that cry and piss and shit and moan at human/anthro art? Entirely true.
Now, on the flip side, everything bad you hear about hmofags is also equally true, so, y'know, glass houses and all that, but still.
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>>83652350
Remember how people hated blacked because retards would spam it everywhere and try to force it down everyone's throats? Same shit happened with hmofa
Some hmofags would post that one "He/She looks like he/she fucks human men/anthro women" meme every time they saw a female anthro, making the people who weren't into it grow to hate them after spamming it so many times, and the focus on the how it's different species is very reminiscent of blacked's raceplay
There's also the ones who hate anthro x anthro pairings and loudly whine about it, calling anyone who likes it furfags degenerates, which is pretty hypocritical to most people

TL;DR: A loud minority fucked up the reputation of everyone who likes that fetish, like with blacked
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>>83656167
>cry and piss and shit and moan at human/anthro art
This only applies to a small percentage of furfags. Otherwise, pokephilia smut wouldn't be popular, nor would those 3D animations of generic white guy fucking Mal0 rake in so many likes and favorites.
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>>83657016
No, literally every single blackedfag is like that, the cucking and humiliation is entirely the point. Like, hate hmofags all you want, but it's disingenuous to put them anywhere near the literal gutter trash that is blackedfags.
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>>83657622
They're more alike than you'd wish, unfortunately
They even have a shit ton of different threads for the same fetish. Blacked has the main /BLACKED/ thread, /vcuck/ for Vtuber NTR and Blacked, /bwg/ for blacked waifus, and /gayblacked
HMoXA has: /hmofa/ hmo female anthro, /hmoma/ hmo male anthro, /hmoba/ hmo femboy anthro, /adhg/ anthro females dominating human males, /hmofe/ hmo female exotics, and /collared/ human males on anthro females
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>>83657999
yeah you're baiting
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>>83658157
Someone wanted to know why people hated /hmofa/, I only shared my thoughts. If you think there's a different reason then please share your thoughts with the thread
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>>83658230
nta, but generally I wouldn't say furries hate hmofa. I think it's normal to hate the specific ones you're talking about though which are essentially corny /pol/ fags, like Averi posters for example.
Personally I also just hate the no personality types, like anons who can relate to the player character in snoot game and its offshoots. I'm sure there's an excuse to say it's a blank slate or something to self insert more easily but it's very easy to imagine the average anon chrischan lite being really into that stuff. Type of faggots that say "vidya" and play boomer shooters
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>>83653928
Compared to all the Astrid ones that's nothing
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>>83646089
No that's full tour if they went in orally.
There's nothing for if it's AV to going out out so some people tag that as fulltour still
Going in anally but out mouth curiously enough, is called reverse full tour.
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>>83658510
>t's very easy to imagine the average anon chrischan lite being really into that stuff. Type of faggots that say "vidya" and play boomer shooters
Pic related.
Sounds like most of you guys are just jaded fags who hate fun and don't like that "the chuds" are invading your sacred hobby of drawing cartoon animal people fuck each other
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>>83652920
I remember when the account nuke happened last year. Cited reasoning for it was some flavor of the usual “porn addiction” excuse; something about feeling pressured to make more and more extreme stuff and that it was damaging to their mental health or something like that, and that they wanted to pull back from fetish stuff completely before it actually fucked with their mental health
The actual crashout came afterwards, when people were saying that they did like it and wanted more, to which they sperged out about everyone being enablers of the problem and that no one actually gives a shit about them. The usual “fuck all of you” affair
Said they’re gonna try to stick with only posting his pokemon brap comms and the rpg game they’ve been working on, and so far they’ve held up to their word
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>>83658774
Most people don't like faggots anon.
Thats why they used to get bullied in school and maybe even by coworkers.
You don't have to be jaded for that it's just natural.
There's definitely some cool people into the stuff but there's a lot of vocal ones that are just cringe
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>>83658910
I mean I guess I can sorta understand the feelings of "Outsider group is coming in a ruining my hobby." but hey, that goes both ways
Maybe they fear that because furry stuff is becoming less stigmatized in the wider internet, that would lead to a short lived victory because then /hmofa/ would eventually overtake the culture of drawing gay baras and femboys fucking each other, or something like that.
At least that's my understanding of it.
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>>83657999
No shit, have you considered that maybe it's because the vast majority of people using the internet are humans?
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>>83648233
I would literally rape you irl.
Pic is me irl.
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>>83658801
Replacing Piko and Amelia with some random pokemon just feels so bland though. I don't particularly find these OC very interesting, original or unique really.
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>>83659343
based
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>>83658566
God bless Inker Comics for saving Astrid from years of pigfucking
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>>83659271
>vast majority
Erhm, glorp glorp?
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>>83625692
>>83629647
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>>83647456
I mean, the benefits of the fictional outlet wasn't the point of disagreement though. That I'm fully in agreement with. Similarly with 'haha kill them all' being a retarded knee-jerk take with no merit. Now the weird 'actually literally all men want to do it and if they say otherwise they're lying or abnormal' argument, that can go fuck right off.
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>>83652350
I just think some of them are really annoying frankly. And since I only ever interact with those living nuisances than insert themselves into threads that don't want them to post about how their taste is clearly so superior, it's easy to get amusement from news like that and knowing they're probably seething.
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>>83644543
For every Gooseworx, there are at least 5 terminally online neurotic individuals who sit at home drawing disability or working a shitty dead end job they hate, who spend all their free time bouncing jargon back and forth in Discord servers and getting into petty purity spiral arguments.
There are thousands of /pol/ incels who went down an incel to trans pipeline who changed nothing about their beliefs except that they use trans jargon now to justify their hatred of cis women.
They're just as mentally ill as they started.
And personally, the trans people I've met in real life are the kind who could have panic attacks at the drop of a hat, and they're clearly only barely holding it together even though they definitely have a strong support system and live in a safe state.
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>>83659843
There was a spillage of doomposting from /doe/ in /hmofa/, but it's gone back to normal. The only ones complaining are /doe/ and /sus/.
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>>83632904
>>83649387
Seconded, I found one video called Lighting and Composition by searching "Sam Nielson" but that doesn't sound like the entire thing.
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>>83650641
Can someone give me a more detailed rundown? I mean I'd ask in the more relevant threads but with their state they'd probably think I'm baiting, while I've just been holding back on playing it until it's actually finished. But now I have to know.
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>>83661093
>Susie admits she likes Noelle frame one
>They go on a date during the festival and trying to split them up just annoys both of them
>Multiple other characters comment on Kris following them around like dog and generally being a third wheel
>Susie spends the entire chapter talking about Noelle
>The narrative itself seems to be setting them up as destined lovers
>You can walk Susie home before the ending
>Chapter ends with Susie insisting that this is no longer an adventure for Kris and Susie, Noelle must be included too before shutting the door in Kris' face
>As a bonus, weird route skips both chapter five and chapter six, so it won't continue until chapter seven
I think that's everything Krisellefags and Krusiefags are upset about
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>>83661318
The design of Susie is dogshit. What an ugly blob of a character.
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>>83661318
>Multiple other characters comment on Kris following them around like dog and generally being a third wheel
I only played chapter 1 but holy shit that sounds awful. I'm getting real sick of humiliation rituals. Like, whatever mr developer you were a shit as a teenager and feel bad about it, don't force me to sit through your therapy session.
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>>83661318
>>83661460
Honestly the real question is why those things never actually give you the option to be a normal person, recognize awkwardness, and peace out to do whatever.
Like yeah it stings to get excluded but that's life sometimes.
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>>83661318
I see, thanks. Seems odd but I guess I have no real context for how it matches with the rest of it.
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Commissioning artists?
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>>83661933
i have no money why would i do that
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>>83652350
Nothing. But I do wonder why hmofa steals every part of hated fanbases (inserting their shit everywhere, posting "she looks like she fucks human men", making art edits, taking over someone's oc, etc) then cry foul. Like blacked, pregnancy/belly/vore/etc and bronies fully own up whatever they do, why can't hmofa anons do the same? Why not just slam your dick on the table and say "cry about it" like all others? It's not that serious.
Lately these threads have literal "this is a fursecution :(" posts from hmofa anons and those are the posts people shit on furries for doing so we have yet another fanbase hmofa apes things people hate from.
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>>83662179
"No actually that's just a few bad apples (but all; the other groups you mentioned are 100% bad)" reply incoming...
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You can infact bribe an artist to take you commission by offering an obscene ammount of money.
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>>83646256
lol wait, are you the same guy that i was talking to on shitcord a lil' while ago who kept trying to insert me into your blob fart fantasies even after i said that i wasn't interested in kink stuff to that extent several times, yet immediately blocked me when i asked if you were actually interested in irl feederism?
if so then you kinda aren't in the position to be complaining about people forcing their fetishes onto others
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>>83662258
can i ever get into this like blackmail sort of thing where i pay an artist a whole lot of money for them to make me really dirty art like handholding and threaten to release it tied to their name if they dont keep making me more art (im still paying them a lot though)
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>>83662521
Probably. Personally I like sharing the commissions I get so I'd lose that leverage pretty fast.
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>>83652575
The only thing I remember was that kobold bitch being featured in Elsagate content on YouTube being shitted on or brapped by hogs.

I never knew such lore of that even happens.
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>>83663241
I'm sorry what
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>>83663241
>>83663315
Oh yeah, that brown kobold is a scat icon
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>>83663503
POOP
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>>83659890
Even then, Gooseworx had a mental breakdown when he went barged in on a reddit thread where people were voicing some mild criticisms, and then lost an argument to a redditor who didn't even know he was talking to Goose until afterwards
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Is this true
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>>83664141
I hate niggers.
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>>83664141
i wouldn't blame it on it being "black culture", i'd say the main reasoning be that the marketing behind it sucked, i wouldn't be surprised if many furries didn't even know of it's existence. but there is some truth to it. I'm a black furry, and the amount of subtle disgust i get even when i'm probably more tame than 90% of furries is kinda jarring at times. I understand i'll never ever be seen as appealing or nromal to many, but yeah alot of the furry community is pretty racist.
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>>83664141
Since you can’t definitively link the reasoning to why the characters were overlooked since it could be one reason or another, everyone just see’s what they wanna see in it and whatever confirms their preconceived notions
>”i think furries ignored these good characters because they only care about canines and ignore everything else”
>”well I think furries ignored them because the movie’s black-coded and furries are racist”
Could be one, could be the other, could be both or neither; there’s no concrete answer, so both are valid in their lack of evidence
You see this in basically everything, from why specific things succeed/fail and like. If there’s no confirmed answer, people see what they want to see through their own lens
>tldr: there’s no real answer, so people make up their own answer
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>>83664281
They claim ownership over entire species like a slaver so yeah some right wing thinking is going on
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>>83664496
idk man, this is weird framing. Canine's are literally the most popular animal period, it's not surprising that furries are more interested in wolf and dog characters
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>>83664556
>>83664281
Unrelated note, most black 4chan users i come across seem mostly okay people, but blacked fags are insufferable. What causes this?
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>>83664141
>Canines
>Judy
>And now fucking Pawbert
>Bad Guys 2 was not as well received
Actually funny but probably because I'm unkind to other people online rather than because the guy intended it.
>Half the furries are nazis
Isn't that a massive market research fail? Like if 50% of your advertising base is literally neo nazists you ought to reconsider who you are tailoring your product for. Shame on Sony.
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>>83664141
I think that movie has nice designs, but not traditionally appealing designs. Like none of the characters are cute the way most of the animals in Zootopia are cute. A lot of the animals in that picture have a lot of straight angles and not a lot of curves. It makes everything feel a bit "edgier." Also Judy is just a generic grey rabbit. Her personality + voice does like, 80% of the heavy lifting for her appeal. It was the same thing with the MLP cast. Their voices and personalities (on top of having pleasant designs) are why they exploded on the fan art scene.
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>>83664577
Blacked fags aren't black though
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>>83664123
>lost an argument to a redditor who didn't even know he was talking to Goose until afterwards
sounds funny, what was it about?
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>>83663315
Yeah, there are videos of her shitting or farting, or being shitted or farted on on YouTube. Which these videos rack-up millions of views per video.

I'm pretty sure you can easily look them up by putting her name on the search bar.
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>>83664123
>*Loses to a fucking Redditor*

How does... one... achieve this impossibility?
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>>83664363
>>tldr: there’s no real answer,
There is, it's boring postmortem with charts and quantitative/qualitative comparisons. It's better to air your grievances to the world but it is more something of yourself than of the universe.

EIther way, the most drawn design of that movie was the crocodile going by e621, followed by panther lady and finally the protag. Hannah, one of the supposed good design character, doesn't even break the fifty mark. Knowing that hyenas or aardwolves aren't canines is somewhat a trivia that even furries have trouble with (amount of knotted gnolls and whatnot), so I have to question the assesment of OP.
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>>83662179
>inserting their shit everywhere
>posting "she looks like she fucks human men"
>making art edits
These might make sense if you remember that all parties involved are actually human men in real life
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>>83665889
And this makes it less annoying how?



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