CYOA Refugee Thread - A thread for posting any and all CYOAs unpostable in /tg/'s /cyoag/ (and occasionally ones that aren't).Previous thread:https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/85731899Alternative link:https://archived.moe/trash/85731899Worksafe threads:>>>/tg/cyoa/cyoag/'s CYOA archives and related resources:>https://rentry.co/cyoagIncludes - but is not limited to - a F.A.Q. section and the personal archives of a number of authors.>https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3An extensive Allsync archive that has both SFW and NSFW CYOAs.>https://infaera.neocities.org/Interactives list.If you're looking for a specific CYOA, it's suggested that you check those first.And remember: Postnumbers aren't for rolling. If the CYOA calls for rolling of any sort (or you just feel like leaving something up to fate), use random.org (or https://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm, or physical dice, or something else that isn't your postnumber) to generate the number, and write it in the post with the rest of your build.In short: Do the rolling before you post, instead of observing the postnumber you get.
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Page 6 was missing from the allsync!
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>>85823108Thanks OP
https://imgchest.com/p/wl7l9mxb67x
>>85823397>Ports half of it into another cyoaSasuga Apo
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>>85823471The funny part of this pic is that there are real Pals way cuter than these.
>>85823485but do they have boobs like that
>>85823471Jesus christ I fucking love breast curtains
>>85823703Same
>>85823471Numbers 2, 4 and 7
>>85823485Examples?
>>85824200Venusa, Sekhmet, Duplin>>85823513Sekmet has canon itty bitty kitty titties.
>>85824427Good taste
>>85823471Baamen x3
>>85825970lol
>>85823108>Alice, Familiar, Baphomet>Be The Girl, Futa
RememberYou will never be a girl :)
>>85823471>You will never have an Iceloli sleepily clinging to you at all timeswhy live
>>85823108>MonstersCupidWitchDark Matter>BoonsBe The GirlResilent Soul
Don't die on me now
>>85828263>Frostbite enjoyer
>>85823275Beautiful Chance x34 -34 -- awfully inexpensive desu, but I imagine it's priced as such for the meme 100 beauties build. treating this as an excess point dumpWealthy Fortune x5 -25 -- this is probably overkill, but I do not want to have any financial pressure whatsoeverTalented Prospect x2 -10 -- alternative to the fortune. no real thoughts into what the talents would beBolstered Rapport -5Pregnant Predestination -5Erotic Endurance -11these three seem like hard requirements (except maybe the 1pt enhancement, if you're already satisfied. always room for improvement imo, so)My Turn -10 -- always pick the power(ful being)
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POOOOOKKEEEMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON GOTTA CATCH... at least one.https://dandelionrye.neocities.org/PokewaifupickerV2/
>>85833123I dislike cyoas like this, where the magic is incredibly powerful and just out there. In this world, there's no way the wallet that I found is the only object of it's kind that exists, and even if I don't take the more evil options, it's reasonable to expect there are already other people who are using it to nefarious ends. What's to say whoever left the wallet there for me didn't trap it, and some horrible thing has happened to me that I will never be aware of? I'd rather live in a world without this kind of magic.That said, if I can try to ignore my reservations for a bit...>Add>Subtract>Shmexuality>Change it up>Tighten>Density>In or Out>Furry>Aged>Nudie>Kink>Trigger>Stripper>Extra Cursed (Invasive memories)>Extra Cursed (Slow start)>Programed perfection13 spare points. I may use them later.Using Receipts, I plan to sell lots and lots of magic items at conventions. I'm assuming food enchanted with Receipts have permanent effects since the enchanted item become a part of their body, so I'll sell those too. I have lots of flexibility, so here's a few ideas:Panties that make you unable to wear anything else and makes you and others oblivious, but that have a trigger which makes you take them off.Popsicals that that turn you gay.All kinds of slow start furry transformation candies.A security buzzer that turns you into a loli while it's worn.Lipstick that turns you into a 10/10 woman with stripper mannerisms while making you oblivious to it.Dick shrinking and feminizing chastity cages. Chastity cages that turn girls into bisexual boys, but make them forget about it.A choker that gives someone giant weightless breasts. Can be bought in an oblivious variant.Cosplay outfits that have a trigger word that make you roleplay as the character. The trigger word is the character's name, and it lasts for 8 hours.Sex toys that make you asexual and oblivious, but have a trigger that makes you keep using them.
>>85834121If you're never aware of it, is it really that horrible?
>>85834203Yes. The truth of things matters more than perception, and what you don't know can hurt you.
RememberYou will never be a loli :)
>>85835624do you really have nothing better to do with your life than spam a 4chan thread?
>>85835831lmao, what do you think
Ok, what you would do first after winning Pathways to Omnipotence
>>85835831Well why wouldn't he if you keep getting bothered and responding to him?It's like you keep leaving meat on your porch and then keep being surprised that some animal shows up every day.
>>8583623699% of the time nobody responds, are you new to the general
>>85836327Is that a fucking excuse? Your responses are making sure he doesn't starve. That 1% is enough.Which is funny because he recently started posting less and less. But I guess it all don't matter now, and we're gonna go back to seeing hourly bumps now that you heroically revitalized him with attention. Good job on that by the way.
>>85836375that wasn't my response, and to be honest you're the one currently feeding him the most mental and emotional energy out of anyone in the thread
>>85836383>n-no it's not me! it's your fault actually!Yup. Keep it up, anon.
>>85836433okay?
Dumb samefag, how about you discuss about cyoa for once?
>>85833998Oh hey it has been a while since i saw this cyoa wonder how the creator is doing
>>85836470go look at /cyoag/ over the past two or three weeks and see how that's worked out there
>>85836496No, YOU go back to your shitposting general where you belong
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>>85836550Opsie, didn't meant to reply
>>85836517what do you mean back? i'm there right now? also there's less shitposting there than here by your logic
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>disrupting the thread every time a build is posted>samefagging when someone tries to discuss cyoa >interrupting cyoa in middle of being postedVery subtle
>interrupting cyoa in middle of being postedlmao, what the fuck does that even mean? are you going to stop posting it out of spite or something? lmao
>>85830228Worth it
>>85834121I find them boring, mainly because there's no real world or adventure to imagine, it's just do your fetish at people and cum.
>>85836081That sounds like a later problem.
>>85837025>>85836081you just keep doing the same thing as always because it turns out the author doesn't know what omnipotence means so nothing changes
>>85836636Is it worth it to be a limbless cripple with extensive nerve damage if a bunch of Icelolis love to cuddle you and get tipsy on your body warmth?
>>85837209don't make me choose between feeding my touch starvation and not suffering permanent damage god damn it
>>85823108>CompanionsOchimushaTitaniaGenie>BoonsBe The Girl - ApophisFutaI'm a dominant futa lamia with a harem of cute girls to wrap up in my coils! I'll establish a kingdom to rule over. Ochimusha is my personal guard, Titania is my head of state, and Genie is my court mage.
>>85838027Nice build tok, thanks for sharing
>>85836081Look up Omniharem
>>85838865NahIts missing a hex maniac pic attached
>>85838865NahTok would have taken a centaur
>>85836081Idk, I think I would have accomplished most everything I could want by tier 2 or something. Do you really have a plan for completely rewriting the universe for your ideology like an anime villain?
Anyone know any cyoas with good femboy companions?
>>85841973Divine Trials has that one demon tsundere trap.
>>85840690I'd like to introduce a modified form of karma at least so people who do evil are actually punished.
>>85836081Ask me after I gain omniscience.
>>85840690>Do you really have a plan for completely rewriting the universe for your ideology like an anime villain?Yes to all of that.
>>85837430I just think you can do better, anon. Don't you want snuggles that won't hurt?
>>85836081 Basically the kardashev scale but cute girls instead of energy.
>>85840690Personally there are a bunch of things I would change, and stuff I would create. However I think that a lot of people would look at a picture of each and say they're the same.
>>85846949Here Comes The Sun (benefit: a job with good pay and low stress) - Honestly if I only got this wish it'd still be fantastic.100% More Magic - Pretty safe thanks to above and makes the world more fun.Wish You Were Here - I have family on multiple continents.All three Delusions - Eh, I'll be fine.
wake up
>>85823108I dislike that ropers and tentacles have neither a family nor a type in common. I mean I get that from a biological standpoint one is a plant and the other is something more like a worm and they likely have less in common than either would a beastman, but it still upsets a part of me.
>>85849924I don't remember if that CYOA follows MGE lore closely or not, but iirc Ropers are basically a type of parasite that hijacks women's bodies created by the Fallen God (an evil deity unrelated to the Demon Lords and predating the current one who's made mamano, Lilith, who has simply used her influence to make them less evil/dangerous and more sexual than before) whereas Tentacles were just a type of plant monster created by former Demon Lords specializing in assaulting women and using them to reproduce (which Lilith modified into monster girls like she's tried to do everything, but they're under her direct control.) So like I get how they're visually a bit similar but their biology and origin are extremely different. Stuff from the Fallen God tends to be a lot more evil, or at least sinister and morally ambiguous than straightforward monsters, because Lilith only controls them via corrupting them (same as she does human species like humans, elves, dwarves, etc.) rather than them being directly under her power as part of her godhood like monsters. Stuff by the Great Old Ones (Cthulhu shit) is similar but distinct, because while they ARE monsters they're demigod level ones, so they and their servants can 'push back' against Lilith somewhat. The end result for them tends to be less sinister but still problematic, being yandere and strongly invested in bodily modifying their husbands.
>>85823108LichOchimushaCursed SwordLiving ArmourFamily Man - Zombie (+PhysDef, +Jiangshi)Type Master - Magical Material (+PhysAtk)Magical TrainingHome Sweet Home
>>85836482A bit after he finished pokewaifu picker he mentioned working on another cyoa. I don't remember what it was about thoAnyway my guess is that he was probably a little burnt out after dealing with all the constant updates and people requesting things to add to pokewaifu picker
>>85847086>cute girls instead of energyKyubey pls go and stay go
>>85851128It was some kind of AI-genned NTR CYOA that got a negative reception iirc.
>>85836081Run a bookstore in a small costal town where all the women happen to be extremely beautiful.
>>85850257>All the demon's lords monsters were mostly less than giga horny, until Lilith came in and made all the monster horny and also sexy (this also made them stronger because reasons).>all the old monsters from former demon lords and other deities indirectly became horny (many because this would make them stronger).I already made the comparison last thread, but Zetai Reido really is MGE but multiversal and also monster dick.... other than Lilith advocating for fucking off entirely before stepping down and Beelzebub taking over to get shit done and also really opening the door on the humangirl -> monstergirl pipeline.
>>85836081Construct a paradise world for a bunch of the believers who stick with me from the beginning and snip out the part of their brains that gets bored so it's not a kind of torture.
>>85852553The fun thing about other deities is that most of them are throwing in with Lilith because they're tired of the Chief God making them kill people. They're voluntarily embracing the corruption. The Sea Goddess in particular is an example of this, she hated her job before because she actually loves sailors, fishermen, and seaside cities but had to just randomly kill them.
>>85852846Reading more about MGE over this thread and the last, I would kill for a world map and timeline which gives some context to where and when things are happening.
>>85836081Lots and lots of animism. Everything is a cute girl, if you treat them kindly they'll favor you, and may even come to life to be with you.
>>85853673There are some things that should not be alive, though.
>>85854657*summons the poopcubus from wrath of the righteous*
>>85854698Well that was a shitty idea.
I can't find the old "You're the netherlord, idiot" CYOA.Anyone remembers where it is in the archive? Maybe I'm just retarded
>>85854657Second thing I do as goddess is uninstall poop, mold, rot, and a laundry list of other things I don't like.
>>85854942Undoing a lot of that is a good thing, especially for people, but don't forget that if there's NO rot then you're just going to have dead stuff build up out of control.>>85854883It never got finished, anon.
>>85854969I'm sure my omniscient mind could figure out some non-gross ways to decay waste. Dead things decay to chalky stone instead of sticky grime, or something like that. Or personal Psychopomps for everyone. I'm goddess, I can do that.
>>85854883That cyoa is probably cursed imo
>>85833123As a forniphilia enjoyer I do like the 'still' power, but I can't tell if I'm supposed to pick an object when I buy the power (and therefore need to buy the power multiple times for multiple transformations) or whenever I charge the money. Which is about what I'd expect from a DragonJak CYOA, that and the $100 make you own power option. Wondering if I could expand on this idea as some kind of... idk, response CYOA? Where you buy spells that you can put on people but they have to be triggered by you interacting with someone, and the more one sided and less involved an interaction the more expensive it'd cost and therefore the fewer powers you could pick up. Or maybe I should just continue with DDTT3 instead.
>>85846949>Thunder TotsGood QoL package>Rogue AsclepiadeAnother QoL package>Size Ruleshehehehe (hyper and expansion enjoyer lol)>Here Comes the SunSame benefit as the other guy who took it, best QoL wish there is>H2Oh NoAlso for fetish purposes not gonna lieMy entire "build" is just "improve the world on a baseline level, give me some good quality of life perks, and allow me to indulge my kinks". If I get a sixth wish, Lust Finds a Way or 100% More Magic (the latter only being on the runner up list because it may also cause unexpected harm, but it can also be fun *and* good...)
Does anyone have a good super hero cyoa?
>>85856998good power system, but a ton of the setting fluff was cut and makes it feel more soulless than it should be:https://imgchest.com/p/9ryd5l9w4kza lot of setting details to play around with and customize, but the power system is hot garbage:https://imgchest.com/p/9p4nzrxww4n
>>85856998There's Tok's Super Slut. WatchGuy's Waifutrix could also be considered a superhero CYOA.
>>85857798>There's Tok's Super SlutSay no more, I know PEAK when I see it
>>85856009All of those poor girls look like they're extremely sweaty. Someone should turn on the air conditioning.>>85833123>Giving the wealthy even more control over peopleWho commissioned this, fuckin' Musk?
>>85852702>Thank you for following me all this time. Your reward is... a lobotomy!Nobody let this guy become a god. He doesn't understand what actually makes humans happy.
>>85859552My preferred primary path is Vampirism, anon. Nobody was ever going to claim I'm an ideal candidate for godhood.Still, 'lobotomy' is a bit much for such a minor modification. "You'll never get bored" is a pretty common option in power fantasy or comfy CYOAs.
boredom is a good thing though
>>85860658Remember, you will never be bored :)
>>85860673yeah, the internet is like that
>>85860658Why?
>>85859879>Still, 'lobotomy' is a bit much for such a minor modification. "You'll never get bored" is a pretty common option in power fantasy or comfy CYOAs."Snipping out a part of your brain" sounds a little different from "magically, you won't get bored". I'll admit that might be just a me problem. I think I've said something similar in this thread before. Some people see it as simply semantics and aren't bothered by it. To me when you start talking about changing someone via removing parts of the brain you're implying you're working in a universe without "souls". Some CYOAs through their language imply dualism rather than physicalism even if they never say souls exist explicitly.
>>85860911it makes you want to think and do things, it's the best way to get rid of dopamine hell for a reason
>>85860920It was meant to be metaphorical. Souls exist in Pathways explicitly, since Vampirism can devour them and there's a power to control afterlife.
>>85856009I thought it was a bunch of dolls in the pic...
>another cyoa has put me into the sad when it finished since once it finished my fantasies in my head stopped and I remembered im not my cyoa self I self insert way too hard into these fantasies but fucking God I want it
>>85832004Eveca. I like her kinks even without the benefit of becoming a vampire, but the free immortality is a great bonus.
>>85862841Why do you choose to be mean?Yes I dream and fantasize I attempt to live out these fantasies in vr Its never enough but its all I can do
It's the time of year for this cyoa.
>>85863745We need a new one.
>>85863427This world is hell.
Do you ever wonder how much of an asshole you must have been to be sent down here?
>>85867107Yes actually, I wonder at times if I'm getting karmicly punished.
>>85867107>>85867154I'm pretty sure God is punishing me for making fun of bronies so much for being into a show for 6 year old girls by making me hyperfocus on a porno parody of a genera for 6 year old girls
>>85867356Barneyfag?
>>85867356Doesn't seem that harsh a punishment.
>>85871300It wasn't that harsh an infraction.
>>85863660thanks for encouraging him, maybe soon 50% of the posts in the thread will be his ritual spam
>>85832004EzabellI want to grope her tits and make her cum constantly while she's busy trying to follow my ordersAlso I could potentially learn magic
>>85872041Or you can post more often so he doesn't use it to bump the thread.
>>85872167his "bumps" are like an hour or two earlier than necessary
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Am currently considering which Pathway to Omnipotence is best for maxxing the amount of cute girls in existence. Duplication would of course do the trick, but I don't want more mes even if I do make myself a cute girl. Reverence would probably be the best way to exploit having so many, but it doesn't directly do the job itself. Absorption is somewhere between those two options, whether with spit out or with mitosis. Although it is again mostly just hive minding. Atleast it gives a place to put the cute girls when not using them. Sensuality's Beautification could probably pull gender bending, gives a couple of ways to control them, and like reverence also gives a way to take advantage of all the cute girls for power gain purposes. ... am still unsure, though.
>>85873693There's a certain path that can quickly start building cute girl factories.
>>85873764Drossel my beloved...
>>85872041It hardly makes a difference. RitualAnon clearly has contracted a terminal case of Poo Brain-tier superautism, to have kept going for this long…
>>85873693Sensuality is underrated IMO>>85874018Everyone would benefit from you two just not giving him any attention and pretending he doesn't exist
>>85874414I like ritual anon. He makes the thread feel like home.
Just take the schizopill>Trolls are cognitohazards, you don't interact with them, you don't interact with anyone interacting with them, you don't you don't aknowledge their existence.
>>85872754Beri cyoa!?
>>85873693>Duplication would of course do the trick, but I don't want more mes even if I do make myself a cute girl.Pretty sure it'd be more like "you in more places" than "more (disparate/individual) yous".
>>85832004It's Karteth for me
>>85873693If you're willing to give it some time, any path can take the pocket dimension. Once you hit a point where you can travel through space, start new colonies using your prettiest followers to pump up the numbers the old fashioned way. Beautification would probably make that a lot easier though.
>>85874462So the blue pill ruins pools (after you leave it'll start getting disgusting) and destroys aquatic ecosystems? Actually, wtf happens if you go in the ocean?
>>85876649Maybe it's an effect that extends just around your own body. >>85874462>Green Pill>Red PillUse the Red Pill to kill the evil shapeshifter. Now have shapeshifter wife and two get out of jail free cards. Other than that, most of these are infinite gravel tier. The only other one worth considering is Pink Pill because you can make a millionaire love you.
>>85876649it kills most of the life on earth
>>85874462I'm gonna take the orange pill and choose one of those 'Learn to code' games, and two more real skill games. And pink pill.
>>85874462Black Pill, Red Pill. Find a cute girl and bring her home.Then ask her to pick some lottery numbers to play, and have them change the numbers one at a time until I get the sequence that shows them winning millions in the future. Live a carefree life of luxury.
>>85863427That's why I'm trying to get into writing. Sadly I have once again been forced to confront the fact that I'm retarded.
>>85874462Give me the pink and black pillsFuture vision is always good and pink just feels like something good to have
>>85880335The only way to get better at writing is to keep writing badly until you're less bad.
>>85863427Make a tulpa of your cyoa wife.
>>85883184I am the cyoa wife being bound and suchBeing caught in the tentacke shopBeing raped and used (but still lovingly)Lost and ageless, forced to spend eternity just existing Wearing my ring with great powers, and even sexier drawbacks The healslut party member barely staying alive, not because of battle but from sexual torture Lost into my pocket world, where I can spend eternity being tossed around on adventure, being used as a prise for capture, just checked in sweetly every few months to mske sure things are OK. An exit strategy and my heaven Real life just leads me to being stuck in my fantasies too much, and its depressing I know its depressing, I know i shouldnt. I know what im doing to myself. I just keep staring at that abyss
>>85883690Anon is literally me. Reality is bogus, whack and totally lame. But then, if I kill myself I won't be able to use the computer anymore, so I keep having to put up with everything else.
Does anybody actually play these imaging themselves in the domineering role?It just seems like it would be rare
>>85884191I can confirm that I do.>rareWell yeah. I'd say the dom/sub ratio around here is something like 2:5 or so.
>>85884326Feels like all the subs here are fucking terrible, too.
>>85884382You're on /trash/. We're the literal dumpster zone for anything and everything nobody else wants.Losers, failures, misanthropes, and genuine garbage are naturally attracted here.Plus, it's 4chan, where the garbage naturally goes anyway. The most undesirable stuff often ends up somewhere down on /trash/ (or /soc/) because there's nowhere else to go.
>>85884473>Losers, failures, misanthropes, and genuine garbage are naturally attracted here.I'm different and can quit whenever I want
>>85884191Depends on whether or not the CYOA naturally lends itself to being able to play a dominant role. Pathways to Omnipotence makes it easy. Eta Class makes it damn near impossible.
>>85884473I've heard it before, bro.Blame mods for keeping this thread in the sewer of 4chan.
>>85884191See >>85884732I'm a switch and can go either way depending on the CYOA itself.
>>85884884Not like it was any different on /d/, senpai, unless you think stuff like Sissy Life and Paperwork Error was super dominant.
>>85884191The economy has been rough, people don't have the spare energy to imagine themselves dominant.
>>85885053We both know there were at least other options back then. Not really a thing at this point though.But you're clearly interested in changing history to devolve this discussion into another bout of shitflinging in the interest of your retarded culture war, so I'll just curse you with permanent feeling of testicular torsion and go play porn games.
>>85885231You say this, yet you didn't play CaptaCard or Faerie Abductor. Curious.
>>85885231>Immediately goes on the offensive making accusationYeah I definitely think you're approaching this conversation in good faith and weren't just looking for an excuse to bait and cry about stuff you don't like again. Totally.
>>85884191Count me as a switch alsoI wonder what a poll would look like
>>85884382What sort of posts would a good sub make?
>>85874462Yellow and GreyI shall be the scryer, extract info from the dead to store in my magical hardrive containing all the secrets of the world
>>85884191Absolutely, alas all the CYOA I make that have the domineering pov end up really unpopular here. >>85885212Me, I look at a bunch of the dom powers and try to figure out a way to make money off them. The old 'mind control hot babes and put them to work for you' trick. But, like, not prostitution, 'cuz we're not into NTR here.
>>85880335You can do it. Creative writing is pretty easy. Far easier than trying to make your own art at least.
>>85874462Green and pink. Use the pink to immediately determine which shapeshifter is which and then cooperate with my shapeshifter waifu to kill the evil one. After that, live a blessed life with the money and power that comes from abusing shapeshifting powers.
>>85886895This anime was something else
>>85886895>Absolutely, alas all the CYOA I make that have the domineering pov end up really unpopular here.What CYOAs are those?
Saint of Cuferrohttps://imgchest.com/p/ljyqq6gey25
>>85841973Corrupted
>>85889484What anime is that?
>>85892243It was literally called 'C' with subtitle 'The Money of Soul and Possibility Control'
>>85892243An anime with a baller opening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGSmw-KceZU
>>85886895I am sure someone somewhere on this thread appreciates your CYOAs
>>85867107I think it's less that I'm an asshole who was sent down here and more that I could never have made it in cyoaworld in the first place. I can dream, but at the reality is that I'm too much of a coward to do anything interesting.
>>85890230Captacard was one of the more popular CYOAs I made, and in that one I made sure to have something of a token 'be the sub' option in both, so both became popular, so maybe 'all' was a misnomer and I should have said most. Now that I think about it, I didn't have one on the truncated version which might be why that specific version did poorly.On the other hand, something like 'KT heroes', which was themed around outright enslavement of heroines as part of a petty revenge plot, got very few responses and of those responses a common complaint was how I included details like 'and this heroine in particular will be really sad they'll never ever see their home again' in the descriptions. Although, as I also realise as I write this out, that's less dominant and more sadism, which would be like niche squared here.>>85889484It being a franchise that had almost literally waifus popping out of cards was of course quite inspirational to some of my works.
Yeah bro I'm sure being a dom cyoa was the issue people with captacard, it couldn't be anything else...Like the fucking retard way you handled updates for example, or the completly pointless One-Page version
>>85884191Dominance is control. CYOAs are inherently dominant because you control what you pick. Obversely, RYOAs are inherently submisive because you can't control what you get.And yet RYOAs are very unpopular, thus it can be reasoned that everyone one here is more dominant than submisive and likes being in control more than not.I would further posit that submisive CYOAs are net dominant as you're choosing what not to control nor do. With the knowledge it will be done in an acceptable manner by something or someone you trust. In the same vein, getting commanded to do something you were going to and perfectly willing to do isn't submission either.On the otherhand, dominance themed CYOAs tend to not be very good. Usually due to being power fantasies where the setting, or lack thereof, breaks from the existance of the player. TroyX is probably the best example of this.
>>85895494Hmm... not really, you mostly explained the difference between consensual and non-con. Most people dislike non-con. It's separated from the sub/Dom axis. Under your definition every cyoa would be dominant even something where you get turned into a sissy.
>>85893908> 'KT heroes'> got very few responsesNo shit sherlock. That's what happens when your CYOA centers around characters from a has-been developer and use their name for the CYOA instead of focussing on one of their franchises so people actually recognize at a glance what it's about. I bet you'd have had at least double the responses had you just made it a DOA CYOA. Captacard, on the other hand, is generically applicable and has a far bigger potential audience pool because of that.
The biggest problem with the dom vs sub discourse is that you're always rewarded for being a sub by being given points for choosing exactly what you want. And most dom options are treated like a necessary evil, often costing exorbitant amounts of points. Drawbacks never favor the doms.I wish there was a single cyoa where the design philosophy is actually reversed and you have to pay to get raped by monster dicks, or you're given points if you let hot girls suck you off.
>>85895654you're just looking at the wrong cyoas
>>85895654Heh... probably will never happen, if it got reversed you would be given points for being forced to rape ugly monsters and you would have to pay points to get snu snud and dominated by gorgeous women.
>>85895688Wiling to post some of the right ones?
>>85895654>Drawbacks never favor the doms.Well obviously. Drawbacks are inherently limiting. They, by definition, take away power and/or freedoms. Even a drawback like "you're now a turbodom 24/7" takes away options and therefor doesn't really work for a dom (and no, that wouldn't just be free points: subs may be dime a dozen but it still takes time and energy to dom somebody, so not getting the option to take a break would be a pain in the neck).
>>85895739no, because most of them avoid that shit, for some reason you want take a dominant stance in a submission-focused cyoaliterally just don't play sissy life, just run pathways to omnipotence like that other anon said or something
>>85895764Of course you don't. Why do you even respond in the first place?
>>85895790because you're whining about something that isn't true
>>85895797What isn't true?You're the one who's whining here.
>>85895814probably because most authors think doing it that way wouldn't suit their cyoa
Both of you are brats in need of correction. Or at least a good spanking.
>>85895821Are you like, ESL?
>>85895984eh, i thought you asked why it isn't true, you get the point either way
>>85895536Well yes, they don't get to choose when you submit, they just do. That's what defines a submissive. It's not whether or not they want to, it's that they do. Their will is irrelevant.It sucks as much as it sounds, it's why bootlicker is not a compliment.The fact that sexually dominant and submisive have little to do with the actual definition is a language failure. What it actually refers to is a "dominant" is delegated the choice of "submisive" by their consent. It's no different than one of those wheels you put names on then spin and use the one it lands on. It's not dominating you, it's deciding from the choices given.And yes, almost every CYOA is dominant. The player can always choose if they participate. The fact that they're choosing it means they're not submittingSissies are mentally ill, but not inherently submissive. It's the mental illness that compells them, not an external force. Given that they are following their lunacy, it's not submissive for the reason that they'd do it even if no one asked.
>>85884382Depends on your tastesBratty subs need hard working doms>>85884326Depends on the time of dayIt can flip the numbers or reach a even 50/50>>85884191Domming seems intresting but the more over the top stuff is not really in my tastesLarge chunk of cyoas just feel mean spirited and destructive instead of relationships and classical s&m
>>85896069Huh... but these aren't the standard definitions that people usually refer to when they mean submissive. It's not really even useful when discussing cyoas if all cyoas are dominant. I am not sure it's even useful when discussing real life as the only thing that seems to fits the term of a submissive would be a full on slave. Because everything is else it at least constrained by some agreement or taboos. I am just not sure these definitions are that useful in a discussion and are probably far off from what the original anon asked when they wanted a dominant pov cyoa.
>>85896069>>85895494Very roundabout way of saying you dont understand the difference between consent vs submission
>>85896931But anon, if he doesn't play a game of semantic gotcha all the time he spent with the dictionary is worthless!
>>85893908I wouldn't call a waifu picker a "dominant pov" cyoa necessarily. Plus waifu pickers are kinda boring.
>>85899540Should I do another one?Not today, just in general.
>>85899582Yes.
>>85898319>Plus waifu pickers are kinda boringReal and true, they're still better than waifu makers but I mostly only like them when they're attached to a more interesting cyoa
>>85895624Personally I would've preferred a CYOA where I get to be a Reyvateil desu.
>>85895654I never saw the problem in this, since there is no need for perks to be dominant.You can "buy" the options if you need absolute certainty, but that's it.
>>85900363Eh, not him but I'd rather be able to customize my dream waifu the exact way I want.To each their own I guess
Weird question, but how many pages should an ideal CYOA have? Unrelated to that, i made a few adjustments to my project, removed the typos i found, moved some stuff around for better organisation and came up with a few more powers and downsides
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>>85900889There's no one size fits all number because it depends on the premise and mechanics. You couldn't compress something like TR to five pages without removing all the granularity people like, for example.
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>>85901024>>85900958Yeah, i just realitzed i bloated mine up to 12 pages plus an epilogue with world reactions
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>>859008892-4 pages, I think. Of course there are plenty of amazing one-pagers out there and I love them, but there's always that feeling that the cyoa could use some more stuff. You can also stretch that to 5 or even more pages, but for me 4 is exactly where it starts feeling pointless(too many sections) or too complicated(don't ya love juggling 6 different point currencies?).
>>85901146>Breast VoreA surprise but a welcome one
>>85901220>don't ya love juggling 6 different point currenciesUnironically yes.
>>85901220>(don't ya love juggling 6 different point currencies?).No, thats why Tentacle Realm went completly unnoticied and received no builds whatsoever
>>85900889The max height of an image on 4chan is 10000 pixels. Your images are only 7100 pixels. You could make your CYOA have less pages if you used the full height.
>>85901413Anon, I know you're autistic, but you gotta learn that other people may have opinions that differ from yours.And this is MY opinion. Not yours.You're free to talk to that anon yourself, tell him how long a cyoa should be, just keep an open mind. Try not to get angry or make mistakes like these, okay?
>AAA HELP ME SOMEONE REPLIED TO MY OPINION DISAGREEING WITH ME AAA I'M LITERALLY BEING ATTACKED AAA
>>85900874If I want to do that I'll just do it without a cyoaOr just make another build with less/equal/more points
>>85901110>New Drugs (requires Morpho-Dealers>Morpho-Dealers (requires New Drugs)So neither can be taken before you've taken the other?Or did you intend for the two to come as a package deal?
>>85901146>Total banes: 111>Endings: 0-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16+Really starting to feel like the endings should be evened out a bit.
>>85900889>v7>13 pagesAnon, enough is enough. At that point you should start a new one. Otherwise you will just end up with one that is 200+ pages and completly unplayable. Can't say i saw anything like this before though. Also shouldn't page 6 be page 3 instead?Anyways:Origin Virus, STD (0+4,2+2,4), Tier 4Boons (Gift givere, Infectious) = 21 at cost of 20 because tom and freebiesGum-Gum-PistolEnhanced Control x4Enhanced Malleability x2Night of Living ClaySupercharge for SupersizeTaffy trappedBlow-up DollMastery in MimicryTemperate temperamentFakirs wisdomLiving ArsenalCum forthSpecial MovesFemi-DrainMascu-DrainBest of both WorldsHumanity 2.0Humanity 2.GooFun&GamesLiving SpaCompanions: Miss prison, Personal Trainer, Clingy Roommate (female), Goddess Zilla, Maple twins, Splatter, Tentacle TomBanes 20, but count as 10Addiction heavy cream, idiots in spandex, Milkshakes cum&candy, to serve man, Dead end Job Human Cattle, Disease milk rash, futa flu, Candyfication, Cephalopodia, rejuvenation pox, Companion Symbio-Suit, Goons r us, this isnt final form, Fertility cults, unitology, enforcers, assassins, scary monsters, oozling, miss milkCertainly a ride.
>>85901220 >>85901434Good points. This could've been like 5 pages with better spacing and smaller images. >>85901281Sadly very rare to find. But i felt like it fits well into the powerset.>>85901686They are supposed to be always bought together. Paying with banes is one step afterall, so timing is unimportant.
>>85901824You can raise that by 10 with boons. If you want to have all downsides the world should reflect that i think.>>85902012>Also shouldn't page 6 be page 3 instead?...Fuck! Nice build thoughAlso get you fucking captcha and spamfilter in order 4chan. God, it get's worse every single fucking week
>>85900889>all origins have free boons except The Side EffectInteresting choice. They all start with 6 stat points distributed among the three so it's at a gross disadvantage. Also a thing of note, you get 8 points, but there's 99 boons. Two are free, but the player may not want them, at best you've 1/10th the points to boons. You're up to 111 banes. I'm not saying you should change those numbers but it is interesting there's more banes than boons, and so many compared to the points given. Especially with some Tier 1 origins, like Hero Initiative making you unique but many banes affecting the masses. Something there tickles my tism in an uncomfortable way.
>>85902457The side effekt also starts with an even spread and no baggage in case none of the other optiona are to your liking. Also if the Side effect ahd free boons it would make the others pretty obsolete i think. 111 Banes is a lot. Didn't count the number of options at all to be honest, but some realy belong together like the cult stuff or are basicaly upgrades to existing ones like possession to masters. It is easier to get boons for free though, so maybe another page full of options wouldn't hurt, r-right..? 99 boons with three of them being basicaly only realy useful when bought en masse just felt kinda good-ish to me.Maybe i'll make the final bane count move in steps of 10 as well. What did you end up taking?
>>85902362>You can raise that by 10 with boons.Raise what? I was stating the total number of banes listed in the entire section.>If you want to have all downsides the world should reflect that i think.At present, the "all downsides" scenario kicks in at less than 14% of banes picked, which seems a bit limiting.>>85902457>>all origins have free boons except The Side Effect>Interesting choice. They all start with 6 stat points distributed among the three so it's at a gross disadvantage.Side Effect is also the only one that can reach 5 in all three stats at once.
>>85902774>Raise what? I was stating the total number of banes listed in the entire section.The cap on the endings. So you can get 15 Banes and still have the best most peaceful world.
>>85902774>Side Effect is also the only one that can reach 5 in all three stats at once.I honestly overlooked that, but my own build has me taking experimental body mods as an origin. As written, Malleability 5 seems like a disadvantage I'd rather not have since I now need to worry about absorbent towels and presumably storm drains, but I need Enhanced Malleability to get Mastery in Mimicry. Thankfully Tool Grade Rubber is a thing so I can be solid enough to live normally while still being a shapeshifter.
>>85901024>Should Tentacle Tom gain more Boons those will also be aviable [sic] at half costHow exactly is that meant to function?>>85902362>Also get you fucking captcha and spamfilter in order 4chan. God, it get's worse every single fucking weekThis is why authors with bigger CYOAs seem to have switched from posting them wholesale to uploading them to a gallery (e.g. imgchest) and linking that instead.>>85902879>The cap on the endings. So you can get 15 Banes and still have the best most peaceful world.Ah, missed those while browsing through the thing. Still hitting the "all downsides" ending with under 15% of banes picked, but that's still an improvement.
>>85903145>How exactly is that meant to functionFor Science can give him more boons.Or just get the personal trainer and train
>>85900889Regarding the page question - as many as you need to complete the idea. Trying to hit a target at all is a fools errand, and what you should focus on is what actually completes your vision. Be careful about scope creep and don't add stuff for the sake of having more stuff, and you'll naturally wind up at the number of pages your CYOA should have.If the vision is a kitchen sink power fantasy, your output might be 20+ pages (Divine Trials, TR, Harahel). If it's a focused role-based or goal oriented cyoa, something smaller will probably be more natural, like Pathways or Magilewd or Demon King. Something that's a pure fetish focus might only take up one or two pages before wearing out it's welcome. Ultimately the right length is exactly as much as you need to show a coherent idea to completion.
