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>do digital nomad since start of the year
>map out year through trv threads
>blast for the first 6 months
>go to Philippines get feel sick nearly every day from the smell of car exhaust, poop on side streets, constant lack of hygine
>get really sick and leave after 1 month as it's as bad as what I imagine Detroit is like
>over the past ~6 weeks have had nothing but feeling tired all the time not leaving my airbnb/hotel outside weekends
>get depressed feeling like I am wasting the opportunities I have
>decided to stop after Halloween festivals begin heading home
>3 weeks later feeling more motivated, happy, and going back to the gym again
>ready and eager to go back out but flight prices are mental right now

Why didn't anyone tell me that having a 'home base' to return to is a normal part of this lifestyle? How do you keep yourselves motivated abroad? I feel trying to plan events each month around my travels would be the best bet.
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Maybe don't go to an absolute shithole known as Philippines next time?
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>>2841629
>Why didn't anyone tell me that having a 'home base' to return to is a normal part of this lifestyle?
because it's not!?

returning "home" means something entirely different people
the most common version (especially among young nomads) is that people return home to their parents for 2-3weeks, usually around christmas and new years

keeping a house / apartment in your home country as home base is pretty rare
and more common for people with extended workations (work remotely for a few weeks, return home for at least the same amount before the next departure)

>map out year through trv threads
yeah... I see why you're miserable

>my airbnb/hotel
why don't you have a proper medium term rental?

that's probably part of your problem
you don't want it to feel like a vacation, at least not permanently
your accommodation should feel like home
if you're not on a visa run, stay longer!
I usually aim for 12months, sometime 6 for less interesting places

most older DNs I've met over the years stay even long
2-3y is not uncommon
especially for those nomading for >15y+
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Pretty much the same position. I never bought a place to live in the US though so I don't have a home base. I'm currently wandering around looking for a home base but keep feeling like this isn't the same as a real home base like you feel you're home and you have people in your life. I'm not sure I'd ever have that though. Sometimes wish I did, but... I dunno.
I'm checking out another city elsewhere and will hopefully find this is the good area to just stay for several weeks and recover from burnout.

I also tried Philippines and lasted a monumental 3+ months in manila but was legitimately depressed like half way through and stopped really exploring and talking to people altogether. I cut it short at about 3.5 months after planning to tough out a solid 4 months to give the city it's fair chance but it was just too much.

I gave it its chance and it's shit.

>>2841636
This desu. Lesson learned.
Manila was a spot of curiosity and interest. I don't regret going. I'm glad I had delusions crushed. Reality checks are very valuable.
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>>2841638
So how do you find those medium term places where people stay for so long? Long term easy visa are like 3 months.l then you have to move again.
Philippines was attractive because of the easy visa policy but that just doesn't seem like the best option.
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>>2841636
I did 90 days in Japan, 30 Korea, 45 in Taiwan, 30 Days in Hong Kong, finally got to PH because everyone I know about the Digital Nomad lifestyle raves about how it's a great stop over. I also wanted to just return to speaking English for a change(lol). Worst mistake, I was in Makati everything was dirty even though it rained and a typhoon came through to blow things away. Food was horrible, service was lacking, internet was what I imagine america's is like, people were bothersome.

>>2841638
>why don't you have a proper medium term rental?
It's easier and about the same for me to seek out hotels or Airbnb's, not having to bother with utilities outside the booking is fine with me since I make enough, I pay for convivence and reviewed places. The farther south I got the worse everything got, I guess america has really gone to shit if burgers were praising life in SEA.
>keeping a house / apartment in your home country as home base is pretty rare
Sorry you don't keep friends with your mum and dad back home or lads to rent a room from. If you had no relations with your parents or lads from school or the pub I would see why anywhere would be better.
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>>2841649
>I also wanted to just return to speaking English for a change(lol).
I mean, if you're in SEA and want to speak English just go to Malaysia, it's way more developed than flipland
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>>2841642
>Pretty much the same position
Pretty much what happened. I stayed 3 months in Japan for Tokyo and Kyoto, in about 2 weeks I had knocked off everything I could think of. Most everything in Japan and Korea could be seen in under 90 minutes unless you're fat. The night life is fine but so loud with Americans, Indians, and Chinese all clogging up the place. I just wanted to sit down with a few pints watching the match and got rattled by people screaming indoors. I wanted to enjoy each "mini Akihabara" in cities but it's all the same slop.

>>2841650
Malaysia looks okay but even more boring, if I wanted a muslim speaking english place I'd just go over to London lol. Food probably cleaner.
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>>2841638
>I usually aim for 12months, sometime 6 for less interesting places
Where the hell are you getting 12mo visa's for outside some working holiday exchange or some place like PH where you can just pay the bribe- I mean fee to extend it for years.
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>>2841649
>not having to bother with utilities
most short / medium term rentals do that for you

>since I make enough
it's not about the price / money
it's about the feel the place
airbnbs are almost always tuned for short term stays, and it shows

regular (furnished) apartments are not
also if you stay longer you can decorate the place
just a few hundred € and the place looks a lot more comfy

>Sorry you don't keep friends with your mum and dad back home or lads to rent a room from
???

as I said, it's pretty rare to meet (permanent) DNs that keep apartments in their home country and return there for long periods
a single room, typical at parents / in laws house, is more common
but again, going home is mostly a shortish visit rather than actually living there

>>2841659
>Where the hell are you getting 12mo visa
Schengen (not a visa, just free movement because EU passport) - unlimited
Taiwan - 3y
South Korea - 2y
Turkey - 1y?
a bunch of Caribbean islands like Antigua & Barbuda or Barbados - 1y+
Vietnam - 1y
Brazil - 1y
Colombia - 2y
Ecuador - 2y
Thailand - 5y
Malaysia - 2y
Costa Rica - 2y
Bali - 10y?
Mexico - 4y

I could go on...
most come with with some income requirements, but typically >5k€/month for the past 12month is enough everywhere
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>>2841659
>Where the hell are you getting 12mo visa's for
Georgia, Albania if burger, Cambodia before not sure about current situation. That's not even considering places with 12mo digital nomad visas.
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>>2841673
Half the places you posted are only if you find work there or willing to pay double taxes. Did you just google maximum visa lengths and not read past that? Because the way you type is like a pajeet.

>>2841675
Why would you downgrade to some shithole?
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>>2841673
>airbnbs are almost always tuned for short term stays, and it shows
>regular (furnished) apartments are not
Can you explain the difference? I've never rented a longer term furnished apartment, just unfurnished places when younger and airbnbs now
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>>2841678
Not him but usually finding local rentals gives you a better price because you can haggle and often get slightly lower costs due to rent not going to show up on any tax forms or have the airbnb cut.

The con's are you basically have to go in blind and guess work if the area is good or not. The quality of the building and furniture is a crap shoot and utilities can be a fair price or whatever they say.

I usually lean to airbnb due to it being a far more simple process and I am not from eastern europe/russia/brasil wondering how I can save 3-5 dollars a day overall. Airbnb is kinda nice since as long as you take photos before and after check-in and "bullshit" they try to pull on you, you can simply tell them to take it up with airbnb and they generally side with you. Additionally, some countries have limits on Airbnb terms meaning said person can only lease a place for X months of the year meaning no long term+6 month stays.

It's meaningless if you are visiting under tourist free visa limits as you're rarely going to notice much of a difference. Again personally I will pay the extra 100-120/mo just to have peace of mind regarding check in/check out and quality of the stay verified by others. I've done the haggle thing before in SEA, just not worth the trouble if you have a job.
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>>2841676
>Half the places you posted are only if you find work there or willing to pay double taxes
like?
because I've literally been to like 1/3 of the listed countries with a visa for that long (not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)

>pay double taxes
i'm not a mutt who gets slaved by the US IRS
as mentioned I'm from an EU country
and away >183days

also most visas either have generous tax breaks or don't require you to be a tax citizen at all
then there's double taxation agreements, of which my home country basically has one with all popular DN destinations

besides
my company (am a freelancer) is based in an EU country with 0% capital gains tax
so most of my income goes to my asset holding company (for retirement, someday maybe a house) almost tax free anyway
and I only pay out the minimal needed salary
one day I can return and pay it all out, tax free
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>>2841689
Taiwan's 3 year is only if you meet specific education requirements
SK's 2 year digital nomad visa requires you pay a local minimum tax
Mayalsia is the same as SK's
Bali Requires registering a second home for 10y length
Mexico requires an investment proposition
Colombia requires you don't work while in the country
Thailand's now requires you register taxes for staying the length you posted

I've looked them up and all the rules have been changing drastically post covid and massive 1st world work remote
>"not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)"
Yeah no shit retard anyone can stay extra with extensions to max out the 120-180 whatever days allowed or ask for a working holiday 1 year program if available.

>not that I stayed that long and some are only with extensions)
Doubt because SK, Malaysia, and Thailand specifically ask you to pay double taxes for work. Seeing how you just googled a bunch of places for maximums you're probably not that informed on anything or reporting stuff right.

>inb4 another eastern euro working max visa limits in a country before hopping never living more than 2x90 or 6/mo at a time acting like hot shit
lmao even yeah dude everyone knows that trick but if you want to do some of the lengths you are allowed you often have to pay a minimum tax
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>>2841692
>SK's 2 year digital nomad visa requires you pay a local minimum tax
you pay regular taxes there
and you need to have a taxable income of ~60k€
i literally stayed in SK until this September

>Taiwan's 3 year is only if you meet specific education requirements
which are laughable low
for most professions you only need a minimum ~4k€ monthly income
a PhD from a non shitty university also instantly qualifies you

>Mexico requires an investment proposition
no it does not!
temporary residence needs just an income somewhere around 2500€/month or like 50k savings
even permanent residency is only a proof of like 250k savings

>Colombia requires you don't work while in the country
Type M visa is EXPLICITLY to work there as remote worker
again, low income / savings requirements that literally anyone who works for EU / US clients meets

>Thailand now requires you register taxes
and?
I don't see the problem unless your home country still taxes you
pay yourself out the minimal needed amount to live or needed for the visa, whichever is higher
and keep the rest in your company until you're somewhere with lower taxes

>you often have to pay a minimum tax
you seem to have a serious problem with taxes
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>>2841696
>i literally stayed in SK until this September
Great and how long were you there for?
>a PhD from a non shitty university also instantly qualifies you
And you have a PHD as well now? Wow what a small requirement

Not even going to bother with the rest since you're obviously just finding niche one of things no one single person can have all of and would still want to travel in DN fashion. Sure maybe there is someone out there but not on 4chan.

You're just a cryptobro with an registered business paying yourself minimum wage to 'consult' or 'financially advise' yourself.
>you seem to have a serious problem with taxes
99% of digital nomads on this board are working as an employee for another company. You're talking about a legal grey area which is going to end up in a whataboutism arguement because the shit country you're from, going off your English anyways, doesn't care to look at some guy running a tax scam.
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>>2841678
>Can you explain the difference?
>I've never rented a longer term furnished apartment,
>just unfurnished places when younger and airbnbs now
a different layout, style and furniture

airbnb living rooms (if there is one) are rarely cozy
furniture is picked to look good on photos, often unpractical and very uniform (like ikea stuff)
small, borderline unusable kitchens
of course that depends a lot on the specific airbnb, but it's the general direction

a big part also comes from decorating the place
which you obviously won't do if you only stay there for a month or two, but you will if you know you'll have to live there for 12months
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>>2841699
>how long were you there for?
a little under 1y, the visa was only introduced in 2024
>And you have a PHD as well now?
no, my spouse does

>you're obviously just finding niche one
like?
name it, don't just complain muh requirements

>no one single person can have all of and would still want to travel in DN fashion
top kek
and bullshit
i literally wrote in my second post that 5k€/month of steady income covers almost every imaginable visa
that's something almost any freelancer working in the EU or US can achieve

>but not on 4chan
only the whole non-student, non neet half on /g/
if they wanted to become self-employed

>You're just a cryptobro with an registered business paying yourself minimum wage to 'consult' or 'financially advise' yourself.
where did I now mention crypto?
i'm in devops

the comment about the companies was only to show that you DON'T have to pay taxes on all your income
you can defer it until you actually need the money

>99% of digital nomads on this board are working as an employee for another company
that's a workation anon
not digital nomading

also most likely not legal

>You're talking about a legal grey area
where? which grey area?
nothing I mentioned is illegal
quite the opposite, i literally describe the official, legal way
instead of abusing tourist visas and lying during immigration

>because the shit country you're from
apparently a better one than you
as I don't have to worry about taxation so neurotically kek
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>>2841699
>Not even going to bother
that's how we all feel about you and your pissy attitude to anybody trying to help you



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