>>2913320
>first day in japan
>get off the plane
>drop off bags at the sharehouse
>all redditor gaijin tards there
>walk around for a bit
>go to a conbini
>lawsons entirely staffed by jeets
>witness a homeless japanese guy rob the store seattle style
>he stuffs a tote bag full of sandwiches, donkatsu, and onigiri, then runs out the store
>all you see is him biking off with a sack of goodies over his shoulder like santa claus
>my turn to get rung up by the jeets
>awkwardly have to decide between japanese and english
>doomposters were right about everything
owari da

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Konnichiwa bros

>>2913323
This is the white incel of /pol/ he never leaves his mommy's basement

There really are a bunch of indians in the stores. See them walking and bicycling around town too. I was surprised a little but at least they speak English in the stores so I don't have to play charades if I need help.
Glad to see more elite human capital is enriching the experiences of others with politeness and a smile.

>>2913333
I don’t mind them the same way I don’t mind Jews just don’t be a fucking asshole, don’t scam people, don’t enslave goyim. It’s not that hard. Or you’re getting the bullet even if you’re white or black.

>>2913329
>"He's paki saaar"
>>2913339
You won't mind until you become like Canada or the UK. If fact you're probably one of them posting here doing damage control.

>>2913341
I don’t give a shit about them I’ve never been there so I can’t say. I see a lot of shit being posted online here or elsewhere which ends up being total bull anyways.
I don’t really give a shit about your Indian fetish either since all I know are CS calls which are decent enough and fast food orders which again are decent enough, however I’ve got personal experience with certain Jews good and bad. I know which ones I’d gas without a 2nd thought, hell I’d mash the button till it broke, and also which ones I’d give a hand to no questions asked no matter the issue.

Anyways this has nothing to do with the thread or even the board, if all these could be deleted asap before a bigger chain is formed I’d appreciate it. Perhaps even ban us, thank you.

East Asians and Westerners at the Chaotic Ueno Ameyoko Market
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlXY7zvxJqc

>>2913352
Who watches that shit

>>2913352
>chaos
>energy
>people WOW
>it's just people walking around and maybe buying something
>>2913363
wow it's fucking nothing

>>2913363
Since it's not the scene overflowing with jeets that you claim it is, I suppose you're dissatisfied.

>>2913370
Dude you are arguing with a white incel larping as a jeet and then claiming everyone is that white incel poltard

>>2913373
I want the dork poster back, or insecurity guard, this angry /pol/ jeet is the worst

>>2913377
Theres no jeets here dumbass only white incels like you calling everyone jeet

Been here for a few days, yeah there are more jeets, pakis, and niggers, but also way more white incel geomaxers creeping on women who clearly look uncomfortable. All of you are niggers to the Japanese.

>>2913393
you're a nigger too, chang

>>2913393
Post a picture
Im sure you're there right now

>>2913399
I'm not gonna let you spergs triangulate my location. You don't have to believe me. Come and see for yourself.

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>>2913400
Cool where are you, we can hang out
Im back in Tokyo soon
Me hanging out in my APA room right now

>>2913315
>>2913318
drinking on the street and big street gatherings for halloween in tokyo's major areas are strictly restricted by the city.

>>2913401
how much was it? i walked in the fukuoka lobby yesterday and asked the price and they said 13,000. so i fucked off

>>2913403
Think I paid 60/night, pricey for apa but it was close to the station which I care about more desu

>>2913404
60 usd? thats not too bad

>>2913402
What about the rest of the year can I squat outside a konbini with my strong zero and a cigarette in hand?

>>2913400
>not gonna let you spergs triangulate my location
Already locked in and have a massive photolens, what you gonna do anon

>>2913389
I literally post way too much sus shit that the jannies dont approve of at all and finely walk the line
Check my /trv/ ban history in the 'logs

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Since it's the topic of the day, I can attest that I encountered jeets, nepalis and other shitskins on day one back in January when I went to a Yoshinoya after dropping my bags but overall there really doesn't seem to be that many of them. Interestingly while I saw them work as chain restaurant wageslaves as expected they were absent from the three konbinis I most frequented close to the Asakusa station, and the tourists were overwhelmingly chinese around the kaminarimon gate area. I don't recall seeing jeets in konbinis on the other wards either, but that may have to do with me not going to Edogawa or some other specific place.

The place I went to with the least foreigners was without a doubt Nerima which hosts rikkunland, picrel.

>>2913433
The jeet conbini situation is weird. On my last trip, the only jeets I saw in 7-Eleven were in Nara. Every Family Mart employee I saw was a jeet, and Lawson was 50/50 with the other half being a variety of south east asians.

>>2913423
In most of Japan,l you can drink alcohol anywhere at any time. However, Shibuya station and possibly other areas have restrictions around it. Shibuya in particular doesn't allow it after 6pm.
And just cuz you're allowed to do it, doesn't mean people will like it. Walking and talking loudly or walking and eating or drinking anything is frowned upon.
That said, pound on that kyu-paasento arukohoru and do your country proud.
>>2913434
I think they're there on Student visas maybe.

>>2913434
You see them in tourist areas. Same places you see the loud and obnoxious Chinese and white tourists. The tourists are more annoying

>>2913442
yes sir tourist annoying sir tourist very loud sir very very obnoxious. bharat man behaved conbini worker sir they no harm nobody sir

>>2913455
You can cry about them all you want from mommy's basement just like you can pretend to be one while rotting in mommy's basement. Meanwhile indians are living the life you want

>>2913323
>awkwardly have to decide between japanese and english
Lmao, do you mean having to decide between saying “arigato” or “thank you?” Or was there something else that you wanted to talk to them about? 別の話したいことあったのか?

Is there a trick for reserving one solo night at a ryokan around Kanazawa or Kaga onsen without getting price raped or paying for two? I'm planning for February 2028 so I know most places don't even show availability yet but jesus.

>>2913494
Saw some white dweeb this morning at the breakfast buffet with his mom awkwardly trying to talk Japanese to the wagie taking tickets. Not sure if it was based or cringe. Ive been in japan almost a year and just speak English all the time

>>2913440
>walking and eating or drinking anything is frowned upon.
This is misinformation. Japs do it all the time

>>2913500
>Ive been in japan almost a year and just speak English all the time
That’s extremely cringe, those tourists probably spoke more Jap than you do then

>>2913401
>4080p
>sideways
seriously?

>>2913503
>speaking local languages
incel trait

>>2913509
>speaking local languages
sex haver trait. incels are never good at the language

>>2913320
I'm staying at a Ryokan in Hakone with my wife. I've read that it's common for people to stay the whole time at the hotel as it's own experience, but we want to explore, and probably do daytime activities like horseback riding. Is it acceptable to be out like this?

>>2913502
There are people like that in every country—people who lack common sense.

>>2913514
Who put that nonsense into your head?

>>2913516
What about going out? I guess I misinterpreted it. I think it was more along the lines of a lot of people staying at a Ryokan for only a day sould prioritize enjoying it, but since we are staying a few days we wouldn't be missing out on anything.

>>2913509
How many women have you pulled with your English ability?

>>2913503
Thats what I said dumdum. Quit annoying the wages and mangling their language

>>2913521
So immigrants don’t need to learn English either presumably

>>2913521
>”forcing” “wages” to speak their own native language instead of the King’s English is annoying them
Being obstinately monolingual, especially when you live in a foreign country, is low IQ incarnate. Aggressively retarded, if you will

>>2913517
There's nothing better than soaking in a hot spring to soothe your tired body after a hike.

>>2913524
I'm particularly excited. I didn't get to go to a Ryokan the first time I went to Japan, so I think Hakone will be my personal highlight of the trip.

>>2913508
The photo is clearly taken sideways not the TV, bug brain.
>>2913393
>yeah there are more jeets, pakis, and niggers
See even one of these on holiday is devastating enough.

>>2913500
Nothing is more off putting than some white nerd trying to speak japanese. You can see the cringe in the eyes of his victim.

>>2913523
Better than acting like you speak Japanese because you watch a lot of animay

>>2913544
You might not have done this when you were in school, but there’s something called studying where people can learn new things, including languages

>>2913514
There’s no shortage of things to do in Hakone. It’s a waste to spend the whole day cooped up in a ryokan.
It’s a completely different story from elderly people with chronic illnesses going to a secluded hot spring deep in the mountains for therapeutic treatment.

>>2913552
Its not practical to learn Japanese or any other language as a traveler. It is practical to train a hotel worker to memorize a few phrases in the universal language or just grunt and point at a picture like they do at Lawson 'do you want a bag'

When im being charitable i say bag-o card-o with a hearty chuckle

>>2913544
If a gaijin talks like an anime character, it’ll definitely creep Japanese people out.

>>2913560
You cannot carry on any form of conversation by learning through media alone. Talking “like an anime character” would require years of study to get to that level of fluency, unless “talking like an anime character” just means spouting random catchphrases. Otherwise it’s analogous to how much a Japanese would have to study to ACTUALLY speak like Clint Eastwood or a noir detective (I.e. movie characters). Do you know how languages work at all?

>>2913563
He probably only speaks English, so no.

>>2913563
If you study Japanese in Japan, you'll realize within a year or less just how strange it is to talk like an anime character in everyday life.

>>2913569
Let's assume they do speak like an anime character. That's still miles ahead of some douche who can't speak the language at all after living there a year (or 15 years like AboardinJapan)

>>2913569
>just how strange it is to talk like an anime character in everyday life.
No one disagrees with this point. The point you're missing is that "talking like an anime character" would take a lot more work than you and the other retard think, and someone speaking shitty Japanese because they're just starting to learn the language =/= talking like anime. To add to that, you cannot learn Japanese to any level at all through anime alone. An adult cannot learn ANY language through consuming media alone.

>>2913558
Yes, it's impractical to learn the local language as a traveler beyond a few phrases for polite interactions, but looking down on someone who is making a legitimate effort to learn/practice the language is a whole another animal. You obviously lack the mental capacity to master another language (as well as the ability to grasp why it matters, which you tack down to just "I already speak the universal language"), so it's like a bully laughing at a kid who's good at something (or trying to be), because you are secretly threatened by displays of genuine ambition.

Fluency aside, do you not find it embarrassing that if a clerk asked a follow-up question beyond wanting a bag, you would have no idea what they're saying? Or that as a year-long resident, you still are unable to handle the most basic interaction on the phone or in a store, without playing charades?

Looks like shopping at Don Quijote won't be so crowded anymore

>Don Quijote Acquires Toys R Us Japan Business, Inherits All 150 Stores

>>2913580
Since Toys R Us stores are often located along suburban bypass roads—the kind you'd drive to in your own car—this probably won't have much of an impact on tourists.

>>2913552
Most people who claim to speak japanese are N4 at best. Yet they insist that they are le heckin multilingual

>>2913589
If such people exist then they’re as retarded as people who say they speak Spanish “un poco,” as in those two words and “gracias” form up 50% of their entire knowledge of the language. Someone who’s truly learning a language for its own sake/for practicality are more honest about their limits and abilities, as opposed to people tapping on DuoLingo for “multilingual” clout.

>>2913577
The only people that speak good English here are jeets . I dont fault the japs or expect them to be fluent. I get by if they speak no English. Me trying to speak Japanese makes life worse for everyone. You are just butthurt because you wasted your time trying to learn a language and I didn't

>>2913611
You’re right, why the fuck did I waste my time learning Japanese living in Japan? I hate how much time I spent only to be able to communicate with people better and read shit

t. been here 4 years

>>2913624
i get really jealous of people who are proficient, was sitting next to these two Dutch lads at a bar and they spoke amazingly good Japanese, I assumed they lived in Japan, but no, they were just visiting for a few weeks and were weebs who had learnt it for years, it was the first time they'd ever been there
life is so much better when you can speak it well, but fuck it im lazy so only know a bit
your quality of life goes up so much by just learning enough, its hard to explain, but very real
English alone is going to be a shitty experience imo, more doors open for you learning just some of it

>>2913632
It’s fine, just don’t say it’s somehow stupider to learn a language than not, or take pride in the fact that you won’t learn it. Getting started is easier than you think. Read through Tae Kim’s Grammar Guide, that forms an extremely solid formation for making sentences and speaking.

Forgot link
https://guidetojapanese.org/learn/
Gambatte baka-kun

>>2913333
Ever since they started making up the majority of kitchen staff at certain sushi and yakitori chain restaurants I've started getting the shits like half the time. Never had that issue in japan until very recently

>>2913440
Unauthorized street gatherings for Halloween or other events are strictly prohibited in areas like the Shibuya Scramble Crossing and Toyoko Square in Shinjuku.
This rule started because of what happened at Shibuya Halloween a few years ago. A group of people got overly excited and caused a huge scene by flipping over someone's car. However, they were all identified through security camera footage around the city and were eventually arrested.

>>2913635
I find it a lot easier t b h desu
know a fair bit of mandarin at this point and its definitely harder as a native english speaker
but yeah i spend enough time in the country I should learn it way better and have all the opportunity to do so, embarassing meeting those guys who are fluent and they only just got off a plane, makes me feel retarded, also locals love them way more simply with a few words

i think I've got something learnt but then locals say something back and I have absolutely no idea what it means

>>2913639
It's amazing how few times I've only ever had food poisoning twice in Japan (Indian and then McDonald's), considering how Japanese people never use soap to wash their hands in general. I just like to cope with the fact that everyone in food service is more diligent

>>2913611
>>2913624
Are you a Canadian or an Australian who has never been abroad?
The types of foreigners who make up the majority vary from country to country.

>>2913635
Its stupid to try to learn a language of a country you are visiting. Because you cant. You just annoy people. You can't communicate

>>2913651
No, I've been traveling the world for a decade. Only jeet wagies speak good English in japan. And they speak jap, not sure how well, but are very excited to speak English to an englishman

>>2913652
It’s never stupid to learn something new. It could be impractical or foolhardy, yes. Besides perhaps the French no one ever reacts with
>you learned a greeting/question in my language? I had to then speak my native language to you? What a fucking pest
>I had to speak ENGLISH to this dumb gaijin/gweilo/farang/Inglander anyways who dared speak in my tongue first

>>2913525
There are six public onsens in Hakone. Each onsen has its own unique water quality and therapeutic benefits. Admission fees range from about $3 to $4. There are also onsen spas. So you can enjoy hopping from one onsen to another, in addition to the one at the ryokan where you’re staying.

>>2913652
you dont have to be good. you just have to be better than they are at english for you to get something out of it. which isn't a high bar at all.

>>2913652
>posting retarded well poisoning shit online yet again
the Japanese will respect you for simply trying your best, or at least doing phone translation via llm apps, speaking English to them is how you annoy them, but you wouldn't get it as the resident angry schizo who doesn't even have a passport

>>2913500
I don’t think there’s a difference in language ability between men and women, but there’s clearly a difference among gaijin men and women living in Japan.
The women pick up Japanese easily; after just two years, they speak it as fluently as a native speaker and hang out with their Japanese friends.
On the other hand, no matter how many years pass, the men still can’t speak Japanese and spend their time at gaijin bars complaining about Japan to each other.

>>2913680
>I don’t think there’s a difference in language ability between men and women, but there’s clearly a difference among gaijin men and women living in Japan.
>The women pick up Japanese easily; after just two years, they speak it as fluently as a native speaker and hang out with their Japanese friends.
>On the other hand, no matter how many years pass, the men still can’t speak Japanese and spend their time at gaijin bars complaining about Japan to each other.
Nah I think on average women are way better at language. women are as evolved at social things as men are evolved physically. women spend all day yapping and notice all of the inane social details. they evolved to tell stories to the baby. let them have their moment. they still can't write for shit though.

>>2913680
I don’t know if it’s true that women usually are better at Japanese than expat men, but I think what goes on behind it is pretty complex. In the professional sphere:
>men tend to dominate in technical fields (IT, engineering, etc.) that favors pure skill over language ability
>other fields (i.e. ones with proportionally more women) such as pure administrative work or service/hospitality/looks-related jobs require full fluency

In the personal sphere
>women tend to want long-term partners more than men
>you can’t have a viable long-term relationship with a significant language barrier
>Japanese women that like foreign men are fine as men just want sex with an oriental and men will rest on these laurels until marrying one
>Japanese men that like foreign women tend to be only interested in sex
>they also would not seriously consider a foreign girlfriend/wife for cultural reasons, as well as the language barrier and the fact that most foreigners eventually leave Japan
>a woman who plans to stay in Japan (or other country) long-term realizes the value of, and is intrinsically motivated to, learn the language of their place of permanent residence both for available career paths and to have a long term partner

A lot of these bitter expats who frequent the Hub are dudes who just shacked up with a Japanese women and got stuck in Japan, while having no ambition otherwise to improve their station.

>>2913680
this is because women are more liberal and view themselves as immigrants who ought to assimilate ASAP while men are more conservative and view themselves as expats who ought to only assimilate after they've settled

also most women going to japan are in "creative fields" (and a LOT of them end up as hookers) while the men are mostly english teachers or working in IT or call centers(and a LOT of them end up hating Japan and wanting to get a waifu and bail).

this also creates a lot of weird dissonance online where the men are often "japan glazers" who are in-actuality conservative radicals who engage in disruptive politics, whereas the women are "anti-japan" but want the current status-quo maintained because they benefit from being sexualized.

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>>2913701
>most women going to japan are in "creative fields" (and a LOT of them end up as hookers)
Explain this nonsense further. What is a “creative field”? I challenge you to even come up with a JAV code where this happens
>the men are mostly english teachers or working in IT or call centers
Another monumentally retarded take based on the very wrong assumption that most immigrants in Japan are Westerners
>women are more liberal and view themselves as immigrants who ought to assimilate ASAP
Even among immigrants in general, said women would not be liberal by nature, not being Westerners in the first place, and assimilation as an immigrant is the most natural thing on Earth when you’re moving to a far wealthier country that is better in every conceivable way.

Pic related, from Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare

Top countries
>Vietnam
>China
>Philippines
Which together make up only 1% of the entire country’s population as it is, and are 60% of the total population of foreigners.

Meanwhile,
>education 3.2%
>IT 3.8%
Guess what, that leaves 93% other jobs (the others being manufacturing, retail, food service, etc etc)

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/11655000/001646130.pdf

>>2913718
>What is a “creative field”? I challenge you to even come up with a JAV code where this happens
Mostly they come as language school students and try and get into art or VA commissions on the side before they get scouted by con cafe's or more explicit establishments. I am talking mostly about western women here, since this is a western platform.
Among Asian women it's mostly retail work -> housewife pipeline.
>Another monumentally retarded take based on the very wrong assumption that most immigrants in Japan are Westerners
Most of the Chinese are also in IT/call centers, other than that they're running businesses. In order, the other groups are Koreans, Vietnamese, Flips, and Nepalese who are all mostly engaging in low-skill or manual labor, not really even worth discussing as a demographic in this sort of context.

>Guess what, that leaves 93% other jobs
>lists off low-skill and manual labor positions
lol, also those people aren't really immigrants, they're temp. laborers - since the japs like to play this "hehe we dont have an immigration policy" game, they fuck over the statistics and make it look like immigrants are mostly in low-skill positions. among immigrants, it's basically exactly as I described.

Also these low-skill people only minimally assimilate by learning the language and most leave after 4-5 years. So yeah your whole view is insanely gay and reddit and the only people that really immigrate properly are Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, and Western.

>>2913680
How is it you white incels are experts at everything? Even women, despite never leaving your basement or talking to a girl ur like let me show off my knowledge I learned from 30,000 hours of reading incrl blogs

>>2913745
they're just saying shit to say it lol

I know tipping isn’t appreciated but what about leaving the workers a gift like a box of chocolates or a bottle of booze or whatever.

>>2913719
>the statistics are wrong actually and I’m right
Oh sorry anon, you win this argument.

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What does /trv/ think of the Japanese prefecture of Hawaii? My question is why are there so many Americans here?

>>2913797
i'm not religious but it feels like a satanic place with some kind of evil energy emanating from there. i avoid it as much as i can.

>>2913799
I unironically blame the wh*te devil for that, gentrifying even their own territory and displacing the locals with their demons.

>>2913775
>the white incel wants to gift a box of chocolates to the waitress who brought him his rice bowl

>>2913775
Yes that’s fine, though as a tourist that’s kind of odd and unnecessary. It’s great if you are a resident and frequent a place though; I bring my barber candy from the US for his kids and cigarettes for him.

>>2913801
yeah the locals all say unhinged shit like this. they are so mindbroken by white dick they cant contain their hatred of whites

>>2913801
>>2913804
>replying to yourself

>>2913804
Unhinged is seeing the wh*te devil whine about how expensive gas is and how could they possibly afford to buy slop anymore with these ridiculous prices.
Nevermind there’s 3rd world currency out there that can afford it without falling into seemingly financial ruin.

>>2913775
That would actually be even more of a head-scratcher than tipping. They’ll probably just find it really weird.

>>2913797
>Hawaii
>Japanese Prefecture

Wut?

>>2913820
Hawaii is so popular with Japanese travelers it is essentially another prefecture. Use your critical thinking a little anon

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>>2913827
Hawaii was very popular with the Japs all the way back in 1941 too.

>>2913820
A silly bit of American sarcasm: “Japan has now taken Hawaii through culture, having failed to take it by war.”

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Weeb English teacher leaves Japan. Makes OK sign, gets fired by the Indiana Recucklican party

>>2913839
Fat white incels shouldn't be so arrogant as to assume they're allowed to use their hands for anything.
Inceliana incelicans should be assumed to be hostile to anyone due to their incel rage from being burgercels still stuck in the incelstates.

>>2913839
I always flash the ok sign at cheki events. The Gay Ol' Party will never catch me.

>>2913689
>women tend to want long-term partners more than men
Hahaha is that what they've been telling you

>>2913841
Hello woman

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>>2913852
Yes, and if you ever had interactions with women, the majority of them are not gangbang-seeking tinder sluts. Meanwhile men that just want to fuck anything that moves populate entire countries

>>2913323
>>2913333
I'm tired bros

>>2913855
ok incel

>>2913517
It's your holiday bro you can do what you like

>>2913861
I accept your concession

>>2913861
Hello woman

>>2913841
>Fat white incels shouldn't be so arrogant as to assume they're allowed to use their hands for anything.

It gets even better. He was fired by a jeet named Massalamany

>>2913502
The only places where you’re allowed to eat standing up are at festival venues and inside markets where standing while eating is permitted. Only foreigners and ill-mannered Japanese people eat and drink while walking down the street. Furthermore, smoking is completely banned throughout the 23 wards of Tokyo, except in designated smoking areas. In Shibuya and Shinjuku wards, if you’re caught by a street smoking enforcement officer, you’ll be fined 2,000 yen—even if you’re a foreigner.

>>2913870
>if you’re caught by a street smoking enforcement officer, you’ll be fined 2,000 yen—even if you’re a foreigner.
thats pocket change. in australia a single fag costs 2000 yen. let the smoking wagey keep the tip

>>2913870
Abhorrent information (AI) should be tagged

>>2913879
You literally responded to someone copy pasting AI hallucinations

>>2913884
>>2913885
Imagine seeing an em dash and thinking that automatically means AI. You’re so mindbroken and illiterate that you haven’t ever seen an em dash except in online posts on 4chan. What AI would ever use the phrase “only foreigners and ill-mannered Japanese”?

>>2913886
Hello woman