>>198507669Robin Hood is a fun watch.
>>198507669ExcaliburThe Canterbury Tales
>>198507669Wasn't it because dyes were really expensive back then?
>>198507818they had to dye the sky and grass to keep them from being blue? wow history is amazing
>>198507818Only specific colours were expensive. And you don't dye nature.
>>198507818OP is referring to the piss and mud filter that modern pedowood requires all depictions of the past to have.For some reason, there's a strong push to convince people that the past was undesirable.
>>198507669colors weren't as evolved back then. it really was mostly greyish blue. red didn't actually come into existence until sometime in the 1600s
>>198507902>>198507669In general all films post digital are awash in some kind of tint, but medieval films get it the worst because of our horseshit modernist bias. It's because we literally think that the past had to be this dreary depressing place that it has to be reflected in the visuals as well. A softer version is everyone wears brown, chainmail, or black. Even sillier: most of these films are about economic elites of the time, who did everything they could to be flashy and show off their wealth.
>>198507940yeah bro all the trees and grass were grey, the green leaves update came only later on
>>198508163In reality:>everyone has always tried to be as clean as possible>even if full baths were not available, they would sponge bath themselves >everyone has always tried to dress as nice as possible>people would wear as many colors as they could andthese are all cross-cultural as well. The specific fashions change, but not the trends. Wearing nice clothes and being clean isn't something invented in 1960.
>>198507818No it's because Polanski did it in Macbeth and every medieval movie that wants to appear serious and realistic instead of looking like fantasy copies what he did
truthfully, it was a bunch of magi herding, bredding and giivng their cattle lessons in humanity, mk ultrraing them with false memories and identities for engagement in future endeavors
>>198508175green was only invented so we could tell what was and what wasn't money
You people are retarded, we use dim colors because you can't show people having sex on the street, dying horribly, starving or otherwise suffering.
>>198508478what?
>>198508496You can't portray a depressive society with happy colors, you got 2 hours tops to give a person a rundown on how they should feel about living in a medieval world and you use colors to do that. If you want bright shit Alice in Wonderland exists, Narnia exist, Lord of the Rings exists.
>>198508564>You can't portray a depressive society with happy colorsonly if you're a complete hack lmao
>>198507877speak for yourself, péasante
>>198508478>>198508564Very underage posts.
>>198507855lel
>>198508564What kind of brainrot retard take is this that medieval world was only doom and gloom and nothing else? I think you're best off sticking to capeshit
>>198508724>What kind of brainrot retard take is this that medieval world was only doom and gloom and nothing else?You should read Blood and roses, it's not strictly medieval but it describes renaissance life which is essentially the same.TLDR it's shit and you're a huge faggot. Seriously, you're not smart or somehow knowledgeable for being a contrarian and against le current thing
>>198508724>>198508564Yes, we get it. The past was ugly and depressing. (((modern day))) is so much better!
>>198508724>>198508564>>198508478Rapid urbanization and industrialization led to slums which was an EARLY MODERN problem. In fact, during the 19th century there was medieval nostalgia movements, saying that the past was better than what we had before.
>>198507902>there's a strong push to convince people that the past was undesirable.I think in some twisted way it's actually the opposite. They go heavy on the blue or yellow color grading to give it a greater separation from the stuff you see in real life every day in an effort to help you escape into the world more easily. When everything looks so different, it's easier for your subconscious to accept it as a world and time apart from your own. I think it's overdone and hamfisted a lot of the time, but I think they do genuinely believe they're making their art better by doing it. Some movies dont go full blue or full yellow and it looks really good. But color grading is an art form that takes skill and some people just aren't as good at it as others.
>>198507818Only specific colors, shit like yellow and green were everywhere I mean you can dye shit bright green with grass
Has anyone played the retro PC game Thief?Anyone knows any movies with these vibes?Dark Medieval fantasy but with a solitary vibe rather than something like Game of Thrones.
>>198508243Don't forget the no one can read bullshit. Reality is nearly everyone could read Latin because everyone had a bible, what they couldn't read was the language of the noble elites like French or English
>>198507669Lancelot du lac 1974
>>198507669>The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real … for a moment at least … that long magic moment before we wake. >Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab. Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end. Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot. Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines. Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true? >We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La. >They can keep their heaven. When I die, I’d sooner go to middle Earth.
>>198508897>essentially the sameGreat job for revealing your 80 IQ, stopped reading there.
>>198509232>>They can keep their heaven. When I die, I’d sooner go to middle Earth.
>>198509163>tfw they will never ever make any medieval steampunk movie, game, or tv show ever again
>>198509163since most medieval stories are "hero-with-his-companions" tales, i doubt you find many, or any well known.Northman might be the closest in vibe and restricted character amounts. basically just him sneaking around and making his way and then big eye bitch and his enemies. maybe 4 named characters in total
>>198509163I don't know any movies like that, but I just want to say you're based and have good taste
>>198509485At least there's always Thief modding.
The game of Thief
>>198508564>You can't portray a depressive society with happy colorsFirst of all it wasn't a depressive society, second of all you absolutely can, its even been done before, MANY TIMES. If you can't convey tone without gimping your visuals and directly telling your audience how they're supposed to be feeling you're a shitty director
>>198509114this>*spills red wine on shirt one time*>shirt has a red stain on it for all eternityguess what kind of drink was everywhere during medieval times
>>198507669Movies up until 60s sold color to fight the rise of TV.
>>198507818what?
>>198508564>nooooo it was a depressive society cause jews were banned from the country and niggers weren't twerking on streetlights lmfao
>>198510318Which Kurosawakino is this?
>>198507902The masses are more likely to accept a societal reset and build back better if they believe the past is complete crap.
>>198510697Kagemusha
>>198507669I never traveled outside the city of my mom's apartment in my life
>>198508175hey you christcucks are the ones insisting the world was artificially made by some guy, its supposed to not make sense
>>198510678this this thisit's the actual reasonmedieval times were worse for jews so the jews in hollywood feel obligated to pretend it was bad for everyone
>>198507669I recommend The Return of Martin Guerre, French film from 1982.It takes place in the 16th century and it is about common people of the time. It is based on an interesting true story of a guy returning from war to his wife but then accused of being an imposter. Stars classic French star Gérard Depardieu.
>>198507669>Edinburgh CastleNot a great example. Edinburgh regularly looks like bottom right. The natural light can be very muted and grey half the year.t. I live here
>>198508243Northern Europeans believed bathing "washed away god's grace" and only did it maybe once a month. Perfume was invented because it was common to piss and shit in stairwells before indoor plumbing was (re)invented.>>198509168It was literally illegal to be literate in Latin if you were not a member of the clergy, and it was illegal to print bibles in 'common' languages. That's part of what inspired the whole Protestant Reformation thing; because the Vatican had gatekept actual christian knowledge for centuries and the peasants had to rely on priests to relay the information secondhand which lent itself to rampant corruption and abuse. >>198509114Blues were rare, purple was illegal for non-aristocrats. Richer shades of red were rare. White and black were reserved for clergymen. Pinks, greens, and yellows/oranges were common. Earth tones were very common. I don't think grey existed, or it was otherwise rare. >>198509163Thief has a weird mix of steampunk and mediaeval/Gothic. Closest would probably be some dark fantasy. >>198510678*watches six of your seven kids die in infancy because of illnesses beyond your comprehension and the leeches/bloodletting didn't work, then freezes to death during the winter*
>>198509168>everyone had a bibleReally? I've always heard and read that Bibles were fairly rare and mostly in the hands of the clergy because every page has to be meticulously copied by hand. Isn't this why the Gutenburg press/bible were so revolutionary? That finally bibles could be an affordable item for the lower classes? I think woodblock printing was introduced in the 13th Century to Europe by Marco Polo but even that method produced less than 10% as many pages per day as a Gutenburg press.
>>198510697Kagemusha, my favorite of his
>>198507669medieval cameras couldn't capture the same spectrum of colors as nowadays, thats why it looks so blue
>>198510835They didn't, he's full of shit like all mediaeval romanticists are. Prior to the invention of moveable type and the printing press during the Renaissance (I'm aware they existed prior to that in China, the tech didn't make it to Europe until the 15th century), books had to be individually handwritten and copied by scribes who had trained for years and the books themselves would take months to make. Meaning they were absurdly expensive and rare. Typically a smaller Parish would have one bible in its possession, which only the priest and the local grammar school (at the time a religious institution dedicated to reading and writing scripture) had regular access to. The average peasant might have a pamphlet with a few verses he had personally written down, assuming he was literate, but that's it.
>>198510826>Chamber pots were used in ancient Greece at least since the 6th century BC and were known under different names: ἀμίς (amis),[3] οὐράνη (ouranē)[4] and οὐρητρίς (ourētris,[5] from οὖρον - ouron, "urine"[6]), σκωραμίς / (skōramis), χερνίβιον (chernibion).[7]>The world's first recorded chemist is a woman named Tapputi, a perfume maker whose existence was recorded on a 1200 BCE Cuneiform tablet in Babylonian Mesopotamia.[1]>The first modern perfume, made of scented oils blended in an alcohol solution, was made in 1370 at the command of Queen Elizabeth of Hungary and was known throughout Europe as Hungary Water>freezes to death during the winterwhat is firewood, what is fur
>>198510826>Perfume was invented because it was common to piss and shit in stairwells before indoor plumbing was (re)invented.civilization was rocking that shit since the mespotamians, perfume is ancient as fuck. do you mean specifically for europeans? even arabs were selling them that shit when pushing on the western world with the muslim conquests
>>198511040>>198511088>shit that faded from public memory after the fall of the Roman Empire, and wasn't rediscovered until centuries laterJust because Caesar had running water throughout his palace doesn't mean the average 12th century Italian peasant did, clown. Do I need to teach you what the Renaissance was?
>>198507669>What are some honest medieval films?Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Andrei Rublevbut it's black and white
>>198507669right side is just an average day's weather in England
>>198509163God I loved Thief so much, now it's just yet another franchise that the industry has ruined.
>>198510826>Blues were rare, purple was illegal for non-aristocrats. Richer shades of red were rare. White and black were reserved for clergymen. Pinks, greens, and yellows/oranges were common. Earth tones were very common. I don't think grey existed, or it was otherwise rare.That's right because they mostly opted for plant-based dyes
>>198510590>guess what kind of drink was everywhere during medieval timesunboiled water and watered down beer.wine is a movie myth. only the rich people could afford it, the normal folk had to drink e coli water until the rise of the british empire that brought tea into common households in europe, passively making boiling water a standard and raising life expectancy by 50 years
>>198510835He's full of shit, owning a bible was a death penalty offense in most places. I mean what was the reformation about if not being able to read the fucking bible without being branded a heretic?
timeline is actually pretty accurate
>>198510826>>It was literally illegal to be literate in Latin if you were not a member of the clergy, and it was illegal to print bibles in 'common' languages.loll????FUCKIGN AMERICAN RETARDSSSSSSSShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations_in_the_Middle_Ages
>>198507669I really hope KCD2 is popular enough to end this cancerous trend
>>198507669kek
>>198512067Nta but you have the wrong page, you should be looking for the Wikipedia page about censorship of the bible
>>198512108I really hope they don't fuck it up.
>>198507669why don't we go the other way and make medieval films unrealistically shiny and glossy in full bloom?
>>198512108iam a little bit scared because they hinted they might be include diversity this time
>>198512108If you think it won't have mandated DEI shit now that they're this big you're a retard. I'll enjoy watching you cope like people did with BG3. "It's ...hu...h... not that bad...uh right?!?"
>>198512414>>198510713
>>198512481More Cumans and Tatars, I suppose
started with humanists mistaking caroline manuscripts for roman ones and assuming the middle ages produced little writing. this continued when protestants wanted to depict the catholic era of history as backward (you get retarded claims like the spanish church didn’t want colombus to sail because they thought the earth was flat from this era). then finally enlightenment atheists used that myth in propaganda to pretend everything worthwhile about society came from them, and the rejection of past beliefs which contradicted their politics. that has been mostly stable since the 19th century. I actually think people are now starting to be way better educated about the middle ages and you see a lot more experts and medievalists calling out the whole dark age/ church bad bullshit.
>>198509485>jarvis. invent kino
>>198507818Some color dye was expensive. Some were cheap.
>>198509232tolkien a catholic in heaven: wow you’re a retard
>>198507715Olivia De Haviland was my first waifu. Colors were great in that one.
>>198510807>colour existed in the past>WOW YOURE A CHRISTIANmental illness
>>198512481It will have lots of European diversity, just like the first. Poles, slavs, french, germans, magyars, etc. They were just claiming that to mock amerizog journalists about it later.
>>198510826People bathed in the middle ages, there are manuscript manuals for proper bathing. Women especially get horribly sanitary diseases and die if they don’t bathe. Posts like this are what I think of when anyone says atheists are critical thinkers by default, like how fucking retarded do you have to be to believe people thought God said bathing was bad?
>>198512545Prompt?
THE COURT JESTER
>>198508243Bathing was in vogue until the church took over. The priests literally told people bathing was vain and shut down the bathhouses, so eventually people only bathed as little as possible.
>>198511150https://going-medieval.com/2019/08/02/i-assure-you-medieval-people-bathed/stop being so fucking stupid dude
>>198510826I submit this post as nomination for most stupid post on /tv/ at the present time.
>>198512684
>>198511915No they didn’t. Wells existed. And fuck no the extremely low alcohol % ale peasants drank while working wasn’t prohibitively expensive at all, infact they were provided it for free as they worked.
>>198511915food way more nutritious back then, environment way less toxic, they didnt have weak shit immune systems that couldnt handle a couple bacteriums, even drinking shit water and shitting in the streets like indians the life expectancy was mostly low due to babies dying
>>198511935>death penalty offence No it wasn’t. There are also tons of early vernacular bible translations like the anglo saxon gospels
>>198512682it’s from an actual medieval book. hours of catherine of cleaves
>>198512729Genuinely why are you making retarded shit up? I actually want to know why you’re saying this, you must know it’s not true
>>198512844Soap was literally a medieval invention. Fedora tippers just outright lie about shit
>>198508564what kino?
>>198510826it’s legitimately scary when someone likes this writes paragraphs of nonsense believing they’re educating people. what the fuck
>>198512844cute medieval-fu boobies
>>198507818I got you senpaiI got a laugh, don't worry about the retardsI got you kek
>>198511150You don’t need plumbing to bathe. People could heat water and place it in a basin or use a river if they didn’t want to do that.
>>198510826You dumb faggot. You are either a Jew, an atheist or even worse, a Protestant, but I am certain you are 100% American. Everything you said was wrong
>>198512762exactly what i wrote>>198512776more nutritious? Then how come they all had stunted growth, rotten teeth at 40 and generally horrible health? A lemon was considered medicine.rivers were absolutely toxic. all the sewage or industry run off from leather workers, miners etc... infant mortality actually wasn't so bad and this problem was only tackled around 70 years ago.
>>198512890I don’t get why. When someone can easily look up and disprove the claims you are making it just makes your position look inherently dishonest. Like if you need people to believe in apocalyptic cartoon conditions for a millennia of history, that couldn’t possibly have been real for your ideology to function, that ideology is obviously based on bullshit
>>198512806Ok I don't know what that is, just tell me what to write into Midjourney.
>>198513057No you said people drank e. coli water, I said people had fucking wells. Funnily enough mass death from dirty water was a post industrial revolution thing because of shitty plumbing like the cholera outbreaks in london. You believe in a nonsense version of reality where humans couldn’t access clean water for 1000 years for no reason. And FYI, it’s a common myth that the beer was because the water was dirty, it’s because of the calorie content that kept peoples energy up while they worked in fields. Again you can look this up instead of repeating bullshit
>>198507669Left is boring, too realistic.
>>198512964heat didn't get invented until the enlightenment, so until then time-travelers from the future had to go back to the barbaric dark ages to give it to them. the handful of golden age islamic scholars would call this "al-pyromancy" in the 8th century, translated from "pyromanteia"
>>198513057>rotten teethThey didn’t though. Literally look at medieval ossuaries retard. >Surprisingly, analysis of skeletons from the middle ages suggest that people actually had quite healthy teeth! They used rough linen cloths to clean their teeth, often accompanied with a variety of pastes and powders used to whiten teeth and preserve fresh breath.https://kriii.com/news/2021/medieval-dentistry/#:~:text=Surprisingly%2C%20analysis%20of%20skeletons%20from,teeth%20and%20preserve%20fresh%20breath.
>>198512637>god works in mysterious ways>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>>198513057are you trolling or do you genuinely believe that rivers were filthier pre industrial revolution
>>198512625So pretty
>>198513167This doesn’t even make sense. Someone is literally just stating that the sky and grass was the same colour back then as it is now, and you’re projecting religious beliefs onto them because clearly you have a vested interest in doing so because of whatever ideological mind disease you’re suffering from.
>>198507818Ironically, only blue was really expensive. If anything, medieval Europe movies should have a yellow filter
>>198511915Everyone and literally their mother owned fruit and barrels you retard. Wine being expensive and for rich fucks is in fact the modern invention, not the other way around. If they're too poor to afford wine they're definitely too poor to afford beer.
>>198507669That greyish, blue tint on the right is legitimately how i see life and the world right now. I haven’t seen a sunny deep blue sky in years just light grey. Grass used to be greener too.
wow… I can’t believe medieval people thought chewing food was bad because the church said satan could enter into your stomach through gnashed up grain, so they literally swallowed it whole like snakes. worse than that… european christcucks believed that bird shit was healthy because it fell “from heaven” and so they only drank liquid bird shit, the water of course back then was toxic because the church filled rivers with animal carcasses as a sacrifice to god. truly a horrendous time to live…
>>198513184genuinely, yes. not dirtier per se, but already polluted beyond usability for food and drink. this is common knowledge you American disney educated idiot.
>>198512914I hope I somehow live long enough to see gen Alpha grow up to run the world because those dudes are so fucking retarded.
>>198513247everyone owned a vinyard, sure man.also everyone owned thirty cows, a suit of armor, a sword, and fancy shoes, yes yes. most importantly everyone owned themselves and weren't just slaves in everything but name of their local lord.
>>198513341You’re the fucking american, you believe in disney reality. You’re on the level of “they thought the earth was flat”. >In the Early Middle Ages, the water was pretty clean so people would drink directly from the rivers (including the River Thames!) as it was deemed fairly safe at the time. However, places like London would sometimes run into problems.https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/blog/middle-ages-plumbing#:~:text=In%20the%20Early%20Middle%20Ages,would%20sometimes%20run%20into%20problems.Like seriously, just shut the fuck up. People didn’t shit in rivers, they had a cesspit someone was paid to shovel once a week most of the time.
>>198507669Pasolini's Canterbury Tales, Decamaron and Arabian NightsPolanski's MacbethJohn Boorman's ExcaliburLaurence Olivier's Henry V
>>198513382Yes of course you need to personally own a vineyard to have access to wine. And no, serfs weren’t slaves. That’s why in the domesday book peasants and slaves are distinguished, peasants owned land and had rights. They had their pay set by negotiation. I’m not saying they weren’t exploited far more than people today, but they weren’t slaves.
>>198513341>you believe in disney reality>also medieval people didn’t bathe, had no clean water, and were executed for reading Lmfao
Why do redditors have it out for this period of history so hard?
>>198513529implying that it wasn’t a complete hellscape means you want everyone to return to feudalism for some reason in their heads
>>198513341>but already polluted beyond usability........... by what?
>>198512734>southern Europe, as the result of Moorish influenceLol>>198512739>>198512914>nuuu don't criticise my neoromanticism based on memes>>198512964They didn't do this. I used indoor plumbing as an example for a social innovation that got abandoned as the classical era transitioned into the mediaeval. >>198512890It was invented in the Arab world, and was imported into places like Italy and Spain because the Arabs conquered those parts of the world. They didn't travel much beyond there, because northern Europeans saw it as an alien Islamic influence. Same as forks and ceramic plates. I shouldn't have to explain to you that the culture of Moorish Portugal does not reflect on the culture of the Holy Roman Empire or England. The sheer audacity to call me out on my supposed lack of knowledge on the topic, only to then conflate literally all of middle ages Europe into one single culture. Jesus.
>>198513529Because modernity is such a fucking ugly dystopic hellscape that just having a better aesthetic is enough for people to become fascinated with it
>>198508897Your suggestion for finding out what common life was like in medieval times is a correspondence between nobles during the War of the Roses you retard.
>>198513529Plebbitors are the ones constantly trying to rehab it, saying retarded shit "uhm ackshually feudal peasants lived better than today". They project their socialist utopia onto the era, which is hilarious because they spent a century trying to claim the end goal of capitalism is neofeudalism only to pull a complete 180° over the last decade.
dark ages bad!
>>198513247Everyone made beer because it was a way to preserve grains for future use.
>>198513725Medieval peasants had a lot of church mandated days off. Like a solid chunk of the year. American wagies get 0 (zero).
>>198513382You don't need grapes to make wine you retarded ass zoomer.
>>198507669average house of the medieval peasant working 3 days a week, he also had a loyal big titty wife and 8 kids.
>>198513725They are outclassed by the haters. Even in the history subs and the medievalist-adjacent ones they shit on the same period they love talking about. They will dedicate portions of their entire lives' to learning medieval German swordsmanship, only to believe the most basic of misconceptions throughout.t. unironic redditor
>>198513625Where is that stated at all? What the fuck are you talking about? The word moor isn’t used in that article, are you trolling or just lying this blatantly?>romanticism He’s talking about the colour of the sky. Are you going to argue it was darker? >they didn’t do thisWas literally in the article you invented a fake quote from. >That means you are a peasant, because 85% of the population or so were peasants. This meant that you were working very hard doing manual labour in a field. How would you stay clean? Well you would probably wash daily at home. This usually involved filling an ewer with water, heating it and then poring it into a larger basin which allowed for ease of scrubbing, like soAlso, romans literally had a fine for people throwing their shit out onto the street and not cleaning it before a certain time. Most people didn’t have plumbing in ancient rome, if you were the average person in a city you probably shared a building with 3 other families and had to dispose of your waste outside. >it was invented in the arab world We don’t know precisely where it came from, but since pig fat was a common ingredient I doubt muslims were making the stuff medieval europeans used. >or englandWas literally the biggest exporter of soap in the 13th century lmao. >the audacityYou are literally getting caught lying over and over again, you little freak
>>198513725they aren’t saying peasants lived better than today, they’re saying that your version of the middle ages is completely fictional, and judging by the fact this guy>>198513625literally has to make up fake quotes to justify his opinion that’s fairly clear.
>>198513752Yeah exactly, they did that with all their foods. Preservation was common knowledge and practiced by everyone be it through fermentation, smoking, what have you. He might as well be saying bottled water was only for rich people too.
>>198513625>brown people good, white europeans badlol
>>198513725No you've got it backwards. You are the clueless Redditor in this situation.
>>198513431Gotta love how they just stop replying when evidence is posted
Just watch historical films made before the 2000s and 90s.
>>198513820It’s that anglomericuck schizo poster. He’s a turk who thinks the classical world was run by turks and that northern europeans are savages.
>>198513382>everyone owned a vinyard, sure man.Tyrone got life plus a hunnit years and he is making pruno from juice boxes in his toilet in D-Block right now... You don't need a vineyard to make wine.
>>198513654people, this is what atheists truly believe
>>198512734this chick needs medieval style rape correction
>>198512481>moor on a pilgrimage shows up>has one word of dialogue before a cuman shoots him in the throat with an arrow>"Who the fuck was that?">"I dunno, but I feel qoite 'ungry."
>>198513727>literal textwalls of ego stroking with zero evidence to back it upPost something from the book, rather than the writer smugly bragging about all the debates he has supposedly won. >>198513819They shit on the religious aspects whilst praising the communalism. >>198513820>Exposes himself as a retardSoap was invented in the middle east and brought to Europe through the crusades. There's a reason why the oldest European soaps come from southern Spain and have the exact same recipe as the soaps from Palestine. The article doesn't mention the moors directly because it blows his argument out of the water. It quietly admits that European soapmaking originated in mediaeval Spain (but doesn't mention where they got it from) and then extrapolates that because the (Al-Andalus) Spanish used it "then surely this must apply to the rest of the continent". It's a dimwit 'gotcha' article meant to appeal to dimwits like (you) who don't actually know history and just look to clickbait article headlines for all your information. >colour of the skyThe argument is about accurate portrayals of mediaeval life. Surely you can't be this stupid. >he speculated ___ without any sources, extrapolating from half-truths based on observations of Moorish SpainLol>romans had to fine people for throwing shit in the streets... Most people didn't have plumbingAnd it was normal and expected to do it during the middle ages, and right up to the late 19th century and the discovery of germ theory. Another point of social regression that took centuries to correct. >we don't know exactly where soap came fromWe do know where it didn't: Europe. The earliest known soap comes from the middle east, dating to the time of the Romans. It didn't appear in continental Europe until the 8th century, and didn't enter anything resembling widespread use until the 13th and 14th; the twilight of the middle ages.
>>198513431It's funny, it's only with the industrial revolution, the thing that gave us modernity, that water sources and rivers got so polluted you couldn't drink them anymore or walk in them without giving yourself 10 different diseases, but people conveniently ignore this fact because le dreary and miserable medieval age!
>>198514113>because it blows his argument out of the waterThe article barely mentions soap you retard. The article is just a description and portrayal in art of medieval bathing practices. I can send others. Here:>Everyone was expected to ‘top and tail’ (the face, underarms, and nether regions) at least once a day. For the poor, or those living in the countryside, it could be a simple wipe down at a horse trough with a wet rag or a ‘dunking’ in a nearby source of water.>If they had the coin, or the time to spare, jugs, hot water and bowls. Or, if they also lived in a town and weren’t shy, they could visit bath houses. There, everyone got undressed and bathed together. Medieval people were more comfortable with nudity in certain situations. While bathing, medieval people would gossip, play games, eat and drink. It was their version of going to the pub! The bathing itself consisted of washing the body with sweet smelling oils, or if they could afford it, tallow soap.https://www.newcastlecastle.co.uk/castle-blog/medieval-hygiene?format=ampThere was never a period where people thought bathing was wrong or stopped doing it. That’s why you can’t post anything credible substantiating your claim on this, because it’s made up. In case it isn’t obvious: HUMAN BEING HAVE TO BATHE. As i’ve already said, women get seriously sick very quickly if they don’t. What you are suggesting is literally counter to human nature and not possible. You are fucking dense
>>198514218Its hopeless anon dont even bother
>>198514113>social regressionThere wasn’t any, as has already been pointed out to you, in the middle ages someone was paid to remove waste:>These were called a “jakes” or a “gong,” and the men who were employed to undertake the foul-smelling task of emptying these pits were called “gongfermours” or “gong farmers.” Not surprisingly, these men were well-paidSo go ahead again, and pretend you didn’t read that and repeat the same bullshit over again. >didn’t get widespread usage until the end of the middle ages You’re just making shit up again kek
>>198507715The very best early Technicolor flick.
>>198514252I understand that, I just don’t get the psychology. Like what is going on in this dudes head to believe this shit? I’m going to bed but it continues to baffle me
>>198510807>bringing up "christcucks" out of the blue>the falseflagging bullshit disinfo in this threaddude wtf what is it about the medieval ages that causes random Jews to flock to these threads to shit them up? I know they hold long grudges but against a. entire time period? come on now
>>198514285>These were called a “jakes” or a “gong,” and the men who were employed to undertake the foul-smelling task of emptying these pits were called “gongfermours” or “gong farmers.” Not surprisingly, these men were well-paidNTA. That's not quite medieval, the term gongfarmer is more tudor england. Anyways there are still records of laws from earlier in the period that indicated a very steep fine for anyone caught throwing night soil from their windows within a city.
>>198513625Castile soap (made out of olive oil) was an Arab invention brought to Spain and Italy. People had been making soap out of lye in Europe since prehistory.
>>198514323>>198514422>>198514218Christcucks seething. Sorry, but people with an iq over 70 are never going to believe the dark ages were actually a utopia.
>>198513839They literally do say that https://allthatsinteresting.com/medieval-peasants-vacation-more>>198513885Not an argument>>198513896See above>>198514149Because in the middle ages people dumped their shit out of the window and there were dead animals in the street so you didn't need to drink the water to get sick. They thought illness was caused by miasma and imbalance of the four humours. They thought the plague was caused by jewish witch doctors casting hexes. The pollution of the industrial revolution was primarily the result of explosive population growth and the ensuing increase in population density as a result of a rapid spike in life expectancy and average wealth. >>198514218The entire discussion is about bathing and soap, double retard. >linkLiteral blog, using other blogs as reference. Top kek. >where is your sourcehttps://www.iasdurham.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Archibald_Bathing-Beauty-and-Christianity-in-the-Middle-Ages.pdf actual academic paper on the subject, which says in no uncertain terms that being unwashed was seen as a commitment to Christianity and that regular bathing was restricted to the arab-influenced areas of Europe until the late middle ages. >>198514285See above and cope>>198514422All soap has lye, soap is made from some sort of fat+lye. The Romans remarked ancient celts had it, no mention of where they got it, and by the mediaeval period it had been forgotten. The earliest known soaps come from Babylon which was in modern Iraq.
>>198513934The Ridley Scott filter
>>198507855kek
Medieavel people actually believed demonic spirits could enter through the anus, which is why they persecuted anyone caught wiping their rear which was seen as “sodomy” and punishable by death, whereupon the flesh of the victim would often be placed inside communion bread to trick the populace into thinking it was a eucharistic miracle. This was a common occurrence. A habit developed in the middle ages of “crusting” whereby the dry excrement on peoples rears would form into a solid, flaky glaze which would be ripped off all at once and used as seasoning for food, as medieaval people didn’t know about germ theory (one early scientist in france proposed that disease was spread by “tiny animals” in unclean food- he was burned at the stake for contradicting church dogma) and therefore could not possibly have known it was unsafe to digest literal shit because the science was lost after rome fell- constantine himself personally ordered all hygiene manuscripts burned at the stake for blasphemy. This policy alone is estimated to have caused 5 trillion deaths in the dark ages
>gets so bootyblasted he starts strawmanning and false-flagging to try and derail the threadLove to see it
>>198514553I literally just read the abstract which makes it incredibly clear that bathing wasn’t restricted at all>Most of my work focuses on the later Middle Ages, the time of the development of the written vernaculars of western Europe and the rise of romance as a literary genre. But in thinking about my research project on baths and bathing in medieval literature and society in relation to the Durham research theme ‘The Recovery of Beauty,’ I realized that I needed to know much more about the attitude of the early Church to bathing, and how this evolved in the later Middle Ages. It turns out to be considerably more complex than one might suppose. The early Christians, living in the Roman empire with its culture of bathing, did not all condemn it out of hand. The growth of the ascetic movement and monasticism produced some extremely negative reactions to bathing, but some churches and monasteries built and maintained baths for the poor and sick, and many senior clerics also created splendid bath suites for themselves. In the later Middle Ages, preachers inveighed against luxurious bathing, but both male and female religious continued to enjoy public and private baths, which were increasingly popular across western Europe, and bathing imagery was sometimes used by ecclesiastical writers for didactic purposes. This ambivalent attitude is reflected in the imaginative literature of the period.basically, it says early ascetics avoided it, and some preachers associated luxurious baths with conspicuous waste. but that bathing itself was never restricted and was always widely practiced.
>>198514687nobody is falseflagging, they’re making fun of you. but it says a lot that you think posts like this >>198514618are meant to seriously reflect you, shows a lot about the kind of shit you actually find believable
>>198514553>jewish witch doctorsThey knew it was spread person to person. They accused jews of dumping infected bodies in wells. >throw shit out of the windowAs has been pointed out and ignored, they fined people for it and paid people to clean it. Same as rome. >dead animals in the streetJust making stuff up again.
>>198507902I don't believe it's intentional programming, just an unfortunate consequence of editors overusing digital color correction and studios thinking general audiences are stupid and need the exotic nature of the setting spelled out to them.
>>198512108Henry has come to see us!
>>198508243Also peasants who couldn't bathe often would wear underclothes to soak up the sweat of a day's work so they wouldn't stink as much.
>>198514553Nigger, one person saying something doesn’t give you carte blanche to outright lie and falsify to create an equally retarded picture of history. You’ve been caught making shit up more than anyone else ITT.
>>198508163>most of these films are about economic elites of the time, who did everything they could to be flashy and show off their wealth.That's a different kind of modernist bias, that of modernist design sensibilities. Historical fiction media is always influenced by the aesthetic biases of the day to some degree, and right now it's sleek minimalism and stark black white and grey color schemes.
>>198512729Public bathhouses were common in cities well into the middle ages, even if the gender segregation and modesty norms were tighter than in antiquity. Even christcucks before germ theory understood that hygiene was important.
>>198514618this made me both laugh and gag at the same time
>>198514553https://daily.jstor.org/scrub-a-dub-in-a-medieval-tub/Written for JSTOR, the biggest humanities publication, by a professor.>While the stereotype about the Middle Ages is that it was an era of darkness and filth, medieval art and literature suggest the opposite—it was a colorful epoch, even bright—during which people delighted in bathing and appreciated its medicinal value.You are just wrong, and the article you posted doesn’t say anywhere that people didn’t bathe.
>>198509485This guy is banging Jennifer Connelly as we speak
>>198514909>even if the gender segregation and modesty norms were tighter than in antiquity.Even that varied greatly from place to place theres tons of art and manuscripts depicting or talking about co-ed bathhouses
>>198507855
>>198507669What's really funny is when there are tons of torches lining the walls inside a medieval dwelling, and the production crew is constantly having problems with it staining the walls, filling up the room with smoke, being a constant fire hazard, etc.Yet nobody during filming ever says "Hey maybe they didn't actually fucking do this"
>>198514949no I think you’ll find people were fed to pigs if they saw a vagina before marriage
>>198513529Its part of the jews attack on europeans. They have to attack us on all sides
>>198510318>>198510716Damn I dont remember them going to psychedelia land in that movie
>>198514963it doesn't matter. people think they did. so they must.
it was actually true in Britain because its always fucking cloudy here
>>198515281I like cloudy weather. instead I live in the shitass desert.
>>198510814thanks bro, I'll check it out
>>198507669Every video I've seen taken in modern day Britain looks grey and shitty.
>>198513219look nigger, colors were invented in modern times because god said so. why dont you stop being a sniviling kike for one second okay?
>>198507669There are none.>>198507758>Excalibur>Late medieval/renaissance arms and armor in the dark ages
>>198514323sorry christcuck, still not giving your synagouge my money. just not gonna simple as
>>198516085You say that but when people were more religious and respected religion movies about the past were colorful. In this modern age of godless decadence is where all the bland dreary films come from. Checkmate, atheist.
>>198514787>I don't believe it's intentional programmingIt is. If you look at really old movies, the middle ages are colorful and vibrant. Like, Errol Flynn movies, Ivanhoe with Liz Taylor and so on.The first really "dirty" medieval movie was Robin Hood with Kevin Costner from the 90s I think.
>>198507902>For some reason, there's a strong push to convince people that the past was undesirableHmm, I wonder why.
>>198514553>regular bathing was restricted to the arab-influenced areas of Europe until the late middle ages.That's wrong, bathing STOPPED in the very late middle ages because bath houses got shut down due to the Black Death.ALL through the middle ages, Roman-style bath houses were common and everyone bathed at least once a week. Public baths were a very important part of culture, people back then in the HRE literally considered themselves Romans after all.
>>198514553>They thought illness was caused by miasma and imbalance of the four humours.So did everyone else.. Literally all medicine in that time was based on ancient Greek 4 humours theory via Hippocrates/Galen. Euro medicine, Arab medicine, Indian medicine etc.The Indian/Arab system even exists today, called Unani medicini (Unani is the Indian word for Greek, from Ionian).
People who don't understand, get immersed by, colorgrading are the same kind of people who don't understand what they would feel like if they didn't have breakfast, picturing images in their mind, having an inner monologue etc.
>>198513654Kek, you had me for a sec.
>>198513934What's the one below Lawrence?
>>198509485>>198514942God I wish that was me...
>>198510807Have a (you) kid.
>>198509168>Reality is nearly everyone could read Latin because everyone had a bibleThis is one of the most retarded misunderstandings of history I think I've ever read
>>198508564Sauce?
>>198507902>For some reason, there's a strong push to convince people that the past was undesirable.Well they didn't have feminism and women rights, so this is entirely true.
>>198517859Raidhttps://areena.yle.fi/1-93211 subs and all
>>198508163>the two dudes in plateSWAG OVERLOAD
>>198512414God I love this shit. Just shine the fuck out of every surface with stars. make everything glow like there's Vaseline on the camera lens. Add unrealistic stage lighting and never try to achieve realism. I want a fucking STORY with VISUALS
>>198514963>crew is constantly having problems with it staining the wallsAlso low burn time and need constantly replacing them...
>>198511150Public bathing was a tradition that endured after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, it’s one of the reasons the Black Death spread so easily in Italy and France.
Ivanhoe Flesh + BloodTimeline
>>198516150and?
>>198517669Sorry you are retarded and know nothing about history
>Be me>American with an interest in Medieval History>Every time some idiot says something stupid he gets called AmericanI assure you we don't claim them.
>>198507669The Hour of The Pig and Lancelot du Lac.
>>198508897>essentially the sameKek no
>>198509718My taffer.
>>198517994Go to sleep Ivan
>>198510826outrageously stupid, embarrassing
>>198507715Olivia de Havilland was so pretty in that movie.
>>1985077150 historically accurate dressing>>1985081630 historically accurate dressing>>1985108140 historically accurate dressing>>1985126250 historically accurate dressing>>1985126840 historically accurate dressing>>1985127520 historically accurate dressing>>1985132110 historically accurate dressing>>198513379not even medieval>>1985139340 historically accurate dressing>>1985161500 historically accurate dressing
>>198507669>ctrl-f A Knight's Tale>no fuckin resultsWhat the fuck happened to this board
>>198510826Literally nothing in this post is real, What a collection of reddit factoids.
>>198507818Purple was, because they could only make it from some snail shell in Italy.But dyes from things like weld and chamomile, which grew all over Europe could make garish yellows like pic related.
>>198507818david fincher: " i hate pink. that's why."
>>198510826[[[[[citation needed]]]]]
>>198514464people with an IQ over 70 wouldn't be using the term 'dark ages' at all
Pillars of the Earth
A Knight's Tale
>>198512682KYS dumbshit zoomer
>>198513158Makes sense, think of how painful a tooth infection is today with modern treatment and how dangerous is to let it ride (I almost lost half my jaw because of an infection) now people of old would know plenty of cases of this gruesome tales so its only logic they would do everything in their power to avoid such faiths right? Im yet to met even a group of indigenous people who dont take care of their teeth even african bushmen do it for fuck sake
>>198507669I’ll always love and defend this movie, dgaf what anyone says. It’s comfy as hell.
>>198521681prime Atwell tits
>>198507669
>>198522067that's such a dishonest still
>>198520848Ironic since in chinkland at the same time only the emperor was allowed to wear yellow.
>>198522174?
>>198507669next thing youll be telling me is that Mexico isnt actually yellow. stop before you blow my mind
The "dark ages" were when Satan was locked up in the pit, hence why the colour palette used by his children, kikes, is dark because it was a bad time for them. He has been released since.Nothing they do is without a deeper, sinister reason.
>>198509168Bullshit and this is the reason why the kiketholic church brutally forbid translating the Bible into the languages of Europe because few spoke or read Latin except them and their heresies would have been exposed.
>>198507669>The Legend of Prince Valiant is an animated television series based on the Prince Valiant comic strip created by Hal Foster. Set in the time of King Arthur, it is a family-oriented adventure show about an exiled prince who goes on a quest to become one of the Knights of the Round Table.[4] He begins his quest after having a dream about Camelot and its idealistic New Order. This television series originally aired on The Family Channel for a total run of 65 episodes.>Like the original comic strip, the series begins with the fall of Thule, the fictional kingdom to which Prince Valiant is heir. Valiant, his parents, and a group of survivors from the castle are exiled by the ruthless conqueror Cynan to a hostile marsh across the sea. The young prince, deeply saddened by this defeat and vengeful towards Cynan, attempts to make the best of his new life but craves some greater purpose. He finds this purpose when he has a series of dreams about a kingdom called Camelot, King Arthur, Merlin, and the Knights of the Round Table. Valiant becomes enraptured with Camelot's New Order, which is founded on the ideas that might does not make right and that truth, justice, honor and friendship should be the guiding forces in people's dealings with each other. Against the wishes of his father, Valiant leaves the exiles' settlement in search of Camelot so that he may serve King Arthur as a Knight of the Round Table.full playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgkKj2n1LjA_iQFGmUKMx3WQPsDw1GZ6-
>>198507818Solar luminosity varies due to the solar cycle in the past the sun was simply less bright The Maunder Minimum was a period where solar activity was at its lowest recorded point it correlates with the little ice age that occurred c1300-1850
>>198508564who the fuck thinks medieval times were depressive? >work available>females available and even arranged often>better work/life hours ratios than 2024>strong family bonds and local communities
>>198523059disease, famine, mongols
This is why I can't watch Shogun 2024.Wakarimasu KA?
>>198513158medieval people also didn't have sugar, just bread and alcohol. Most of the modern issues with dental health are sugar related. Rotted teeth became more of a 'disease of civilization' back in the 1500s-1600s as new world sugar plantations began to take off.
>>198513727The dark ages were a thing, who says otherwise is an apologist.
>>198508163I have seen historical medicene, and there is no amount of wenches worth that shit.
>>198523209>AIDS>vaxx>obesity>trannies>nigger and mudslime immigration
>>198523059everyone
>>198523209>disease, famine, mongolsAnd no loan interests. Imagine such horror!
>>198523625>everyone
>>198523287There were examples of monks preserving precious manuscripipts and examples of monks destroying precious manuscripts. For the most part it was the former, because that's where we get most of our classical texts from. There was never any coordinated campaign by the church to suppress non-Christian works because they were the ones doing most of the preserving.
>>198523059>work availableThere's work available for you now faggot, go suck dicks at a truckstop for a dollar. >females available and even arranged oftenIf you were well-off that is, most men didn't breed. >better work/life hours ratios than 2024Only if you exclude other necessities of life like baking, making your own clothes, making your own rope etc etc>strong family bonds and local communitiesYeah, sure. Just don't dream about moving because that won't extend beyond your own village. Not that you'd be even allowed to but still
>>198510826>Blues were rarehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isatis_tinctoriaThe blue dye from woad was common. Are you trolling or what?
>>198512739Hear hear.
>it gets cloudy in EnglandThis thread.
>>198524015>There's work available for you now faggot, go suck dicks at a truckstop for a dollar. I didn't say medieval times were better or there are no jobs today, but thanks for the example, yes the sucking dicks in 2024 is clearly much better experience or even same as being an honest farmer who works the soil and then chills with his family. >If you were well-off that is, most men didn't breed. actual retarded lie. you need to breed to get the next generation of workforce. what do you think happened to the most women if most men didn't breed? western europe had harems? how would population get going with wars and famine and all the horrible shits le dark ages crowd keep repeating if MOST MEN didn't breed you actual schizo fuck.>Only if you exclude other necessities of life like baking, making your own clothes, making your own rope etc etcI prefer to bake and make some ropes and shit rather than drive 1.5 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the evening to commute. Also, making rope doesn't seem that DARK AGES to me, oh the horror.>Yeah, sure. Just don't dream about moving because that won't extend beyond your own village. Not that you'd be even allowed to but stillWhat is pilgrimage?
>>198523287this is such a low IQ fucking argument. they had tons of copies of this work, it was never lost. they didn’t write over some rare autograph copy of archimedes but reused the vellum because it was expensive, and because they had tons of other copies of all this shit around europe
>>198512545good postalso:>historical, medieval document which was lost for centuries gets 'found' by a humanist in the renaissance when he stumbles over it in some ruins (what luck! and it happened so often, too!)>gets published, original documents are 'lost'if you know, you know
>>198515033the top 2 are just a sunset and a rainbow, the rest are from the dream sequence.
>>198508564Is this what they teach kids in America?
>>198508564>the Middle ages were based n trad and Roman Catholcism made everyone fulfilled and happy>if you use color grading to communicate any kind of tone to the contrary then you're a Jew trying to smear trad EVROPA
>>198523059>I would have le virgin tradwife if I were just born 700 years earlierYou'd be a sexless faggot back then too. You'd probably monkmax to cope.
>>198524364>if MOST MEN didn't breed you actual schizo fuck.He's right. You can verify this by looking at Y chromosome haplogroups. Statistically speaking the majority of men didn't reproduce throughout history, and thats something thats only changed in recent history.
>>198509168most people could read their own language. but not latin. most people could not write
>>198507715Robin hood is basically a must see, such a great cast. If you are looking for a much sillier comfy viewing also check out The Court Jester
>>198510826What a load of shit lmao. All of those are gossip from jewish cat ladies that are mad their ancestors got kicked out, and it has now been passed onto blacks who unironically believe in Yakub.
>>198525453>posts a picture of a member of a several hundred year old jewish psyop to ruin the catholic church as proofYou may want to actually read about what jesuits are. There is a reason they originated in spain
>>198521985It wasn't until sugar became readily available that people really began having major dental issues anyway. The average medieval diet would been healthier than much of the overly processed food available now although food would have far less plentiful and the possibilities of starving much higher
>>198525747he’s literally some pajeet who spams all day every day seething about christianity. he gets the images from a telegram channel run by a south american. there’s no point trying to reason because he just robotically repeats the same lines, genuinely he does this 12 hours a day.
>>198525842Lmao makes sense. I must have encountered him before. Brown people and atheists are so damn pathetic
>>198525747this. thats not real commu- i mean christianity
>>198525874weren’t commies state atheist? was that not “real” atheism?
>>198525874Kek
>>198525874>I can't reeeeeaad
>>198525924Commies are closet monarchists
>>198525964oh right, it wasn’t “real” atheism then, lmao
>>198507715Bring back technicolor NOW!
>>198525964What fucking universe are you in? Man this statement hurts my head it's so stupid.
>>198525874jej they are pretty similiar to muzzies in that regard and as easily triggered. just not able to get violent anymore
>>198526011The universe that sees kikes for what they are
My concept art for kino television and film(picrel)
>>19852602380% of the thread is one redditor having a meltdown because someone pointed out that medieval people bathed
Cast them.
>>198514942>directed ShelterHe's probably watching someone else bang her
>>198525453Literally me. Kino religion
>>198526037Communists, the guys that fought against the monarchist in the russian revolution, are closet monarchists? Monarchists, the ones that believe the ruler gets approval from God to rule are communists? Dude you must be one of the most retarded people I've ever seen on here. Communists are hegelian, they worship the state as god. They aren't monarchists... I think I'm done with this site for the day. If that was your goal I guess it was accomplished?
>>198526130i-it wasn’t real atheism!!! real atheism isn’t a politburo filled with jews or chinks massacring millions! please!! trust the science!!!
>>198526130>Bolsheviks totally weren't overwhelmingly kikesFurthermore, they don't worship the intangible fucking state. They worship the head of the state ala a king.
>>198526130Get a load of this kike
>>198526130They replaced a Christian monarchy with a kike one called the Bolsheviks.
>>198511915anyone who could grow grapes could and did make wineanyone who could grow wheat or barley made beer
>>198512524thisembracer is feeling pinched, and there's nothing to suggest they won't go for easy DEI bucks
Cozy cottages, castles, and cathedrals
>>198510318wow these are all ugly
>>198526930there are several inaccuracies in this film
>>198523243Medieval people often had severely eroded teeth because of the stone grit that mill stones would leave in flour. Sure they didn't have as much sugar, but they had a litany of other parasites and nutritional deficiencies.
General rule of thumb for poor home:> thatched roof> dirt floor> mud wall (whitewashed)> timber frame> glassless window with shutters> one room, maybe a loft> fire pit hearth in the middle of room> woven rush mat> hay sac for floor bed with woolen blanket> board used as a shelf> vegetables and meat hanging from wall and beams> clay pots and wicker baskets> bread trenchers, wooden bowls, and boiled leather jugsSome had a rope bed, an arc (chest), and some stool or bench seats
>>198526998Name em
>>198527136>continuedChimneys were rare and only in rich homes until the late 15th Century when they began to spread. Pic related is what a rich girl's bedchamber may look like
Cottages would be surrounded by gardens of vegetable patches, flowers, herbs, and orchards. They'd also have a pen or coop or sty for birds and beasts, though some peasants lived with their farm animals. Wattle fences enclosed gardens and pens
Narrow winding dirt paths with potholes would be the norm in medieval villages and throughout the countryside
>>198516131>Late medieval/renaissance arms and armor in the dark agesKnowledge was given to a few and forgotten, it's that shrimple.
>>198508163>>198508243this is so unrealistic. where are the black people?
>>198522168gaaaaayyyy
Life was more communal. A whole family would sleep together on pallets/palliase stuffed with hay (a hay sack) made of canvas, with a woolen shroud for a blanket. This was laid on a woven rush mat over the dirt floor, which is where we may get the word mattress or mat rest. The bed would be by the hearth fire for warmth. Peasants would wear long shirts, gowns, and night caps or chaperon hoods much like the night caps and night gowns we think of to keep warm. Dogs often slept with people in the same bed.
>>198509163>Dark Medieval fantasythief is more in the early industrialization phase of things. kind of like the late 1600s/early 1700 of real europe
>>198527466>Dogs often slept with people in the same bed.They still do tho
Most cottages would have timber frames and have either cob, adobe brick, or wattle and daub between the posts and beams
>>198527499Just goes to show that some things never change
>>198520536so you were there, oldfag
Hearths had their fire left to simmer on their own late into the night to keep the home warm. Supposedly they'd be set alight again when folk woke up in the middle of the night
>>198513934>Then>Large cast of characters >Cast constantly humbled by others, by foreigners, and new cultures who are revealed to be quite intriguing charming admirable even in their savagery>History plays out according to the balance of power stamping over the dramatic backstories of anybody involved>Now>One narcissist trope character>Foreigners are da real civilizationers>Bad or good history happens according to whether anybody deserved it according to modern morality
>>198527173Animals couldn't talk properly back then.
Folk would sleep from dusk till dawn, waking up only when the cock calls aloud. They'd start their day with prayer and washing their faces at the basin
>>198527636Yes they could. You'd just need to drink a bit of dragon blood. Read the Volsung Saga or Nibelungenlied
Most folk back then would be barefoot and bare legged. In fact, most won't even wear underwear
Most women married in their late teens and most men married in their early twenties. Child marriage did occur but was probably either done for business-political reasons between families or out of desperation during hard times
>>198526155>>198526323>>198526346>>198526375Wow samefag much? Lmao. Fucking jew trying to muddy the waters. Or just brown and retarded. Fuck off.
A typical medieval village would have >a dozen or more households>a well>farms>granaries>an oven (communal earthen oven)>a mill>a forge>a pond>a press for fruit juice and seed oil>a loom>a plow (an ard)>a shrine or church
Back then, everyone wore woolen and linen cloth. Wool is in nature either white or cream color. Linen is cream color in nature but can be whitened by washing with water and drying under the sun
>>198521669This, the guy is calling himself out as a yakub believer or just a straight up jew. I think it's the samefag seething all over, maybe the Indian the guy mentioned.
Weld, woad, and madder were commonly used for dye. Weld was yellow and the most common. Woad was blue. Madder was more expensive and was red. Onion skin was used for yellow as well
Yellow and blue dyes were common in Europe as far back as the New Stone Age (Neolithic) if not earlier. Celts and Germans extensively used dyes. By the Middle Ages, dyes were very common, though most folk still wore white and cream color cloth
>>198510826>Blues were rareNo. Woad was common>White and black were reserved for clergymenNo. White is the natural color of wool and linen can be whitened by washing with water and drying under the sun>Pinks, greens, and yellows/oranges were common. Earth tones were very commonThats true
>>198511915All you need to boil water is a clay pot and a fire pit, which every peasant had. Guess what soup or stew is made of
>>198512545
>>198512545We could really use more dark fantasy
Most people were illiterate at that time. Not that it mattered given most folk were peasants aka tenant farmers paying rent to a big landlord
