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The author (Frank Herbert) who wrote Dune was a homophobic pro-eugenicist breeding fetishist who was absolutely obsessed with procreation, to the point where he disowned his gay son (Bruce) for being “an evolutionary dead end”, while his other son (Brian) went on to butcher and rape his father’s legacy once he kicked the bucket. Frank also wouldn’t have his gay son at his wife’s deathbed.

Did you disown the correct child Frank?

Frank also for some reason assumed an all-male military was destined to devolve into gay sex, so the armies of the god-emperor consist of all-women. Because women would never rape or abuse power. Surely.

The Bene Gesserit aren’t a good example of a “strong” female order either, since they’re terrified of the masculine ego behind closed doors, and worship the coming of a prophecized god-male who they fear they will be unable to even control.

Why are Dune enthusiasts so stupid and ignorant of their own beloved setting?

The Baron being a fat gay pedophile isn’t even problematic by the way. I’m gay and I’m not offended by it.
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>>198594938
Gender is a bit symbolic in Dune, like BG's use "soft power" the way culture, the catholic church/Jesuits influence political leaders. I wasn't aware his son Bruce died of AIDS, which makes the appearance of Lynch's Baron in rather poor taste.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211735266/bruce_calvin-herbert
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>I’m gay and I’m not offended by it.
dw plenty of libtards will be offended on your behalf
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>>198594938
>I’m gay

lmao I bet u are
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>gay anon hates book alterations so much he will defend a blatantly gay hating author
Based
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>>198594938
The Baron is their LGBT rep.
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>>198594938
Don't say "and stuff"
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>>198594938
Not all Dune fans are DUNCsloppers.
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So now leftists are the ones who lack media literacy?
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>>198594938
>Twitter screencap thread
>Twitter screencap thread about fake news
Kill yourself
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>>198595395
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LISAN AL-GAIB!
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>>198594938
Also, nobody seems to have noticed that Villaineuve, who is heavily, heavily invested in OpenAI stock, also decided not to include any mention of the Butlerian Jihad in his movies. Hmm. Coincidence? I think not.
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>>198594938
>Because women would never rape or abuse power.
In the next book Honored Matre are introduced dumbass,
They rape a 10 year old child
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>>198595577
Frank ate his own argument kek, or did he perhaps prove it?

Regardless, you just have to assume the god-emperor has his own silly biases.
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>>198595577
Here’s Reddit for yo Reddit brain
> https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/cavq9w/struggling_with_antigay_themes/
> https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/n1b0lk/why_did_frank_herbert_disown_his_son_bruce_calvin/
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>>198594938
>The author (Frank Herbert)
is dead.
Literally, and metaphorically.
https://www.oxfordhomeschooling.co.uk/blog/the-death-of-the-author/
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>>198595395
Literacy on all fronts! Have you seen clips of the View as of late? The female hostess attributed the recent solar eclipse to climate change, the fucking dumb bitch. Do you know how many middle aged stay at home moms watch this shit?

Surreal levels of ignorance going on in the world right now.
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>>198594938
>Frank also for some reason assumed an all-male military was destined to devolve into gay sex,
To be fair, this is true. A lot of military men are either gay, rapists or both. Same with prison and other male-dominated areas.

What else do you think people are going to do if they're horny for years without a woman in sight?
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>>198595957
Women are proven to get territorial amongst their own and will resort to gay activities just as men are prone to do.

The idea that women can’t go sadistically (lesbians are notoriously cruel creatures) gay is absurd. They can and do commit rape, and get away with it far easier than men do.
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>>198595957
Women on an island will literally kill each other to fuck that lone male—the only male on the island.
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>>198595395
Horshoe theory isn't all schlockj8kp
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>>198595441
LISAN AL GAY OP
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>>198594938
>setting is religious fundamentalist factions in holy wars in space
there are most definitely homosexuals all over that setting
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>>198595303
>pictured: stuff
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>>198594938
did this complete faggot miss the part where vlad "fucks men" harkonen kept referring to his twink nephew as "beautiful boy" while licking his lips?
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>>198595957
none of what you said is true. "prison gay" is literally just gay men in prison, same with any homosexuality anywhere. i hate to burst your faggy "turning straights gay" fetish fantasy bubble, but straight men don't do gay things just because there are no women around.
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>>198594938
>I’m gay
I already knew from the rest of your post.
>Herbert hated fags
I like him now.
yes, homosexuality is factually an evolutionary dead end. like being trans.
you can ignore reality all you want, it won't change the facts.
> I’m not offended by it.
be offended by what you want, no one cares about your feelings here.
strongly consider reddit or tumblr.
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>>198594938
Kek Todd looks like someone on one of those ISIS hostage videos
>uh… yeah. He’s totally bisexual and shit.
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>>198595780
You're supposed to make middle aged women listen to some gay guy read the Bible.
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>portray baron Harkonnen as gay like the books
>HOMOPHOBIA HARMFUL STEREOTYPES
>pretend he's not gay
>I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF GAYS EXIST IN THIS UNIVERSE
never, EVER do anything to appease the professional victims. they will NEVER be happy. it will NEVER be what they wanted.
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LISAN AL-GAIB ACKBAR!
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>>198594938
>The author (Frank Herbert) who wrote Dune was a homophobic pro-eugenicist breeding fetishist who was absolutely obsessed with procreation
based
>Did you disown the correct child Frank?
unironically yes as much as I despise Brian
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>>198594938
>The author (Frank Herbert) who wrote Dune was a homophobic pro-eugenicist breeding fetishist
I liked the books before. Now I respect them too.
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>>198596390
He's bisexual and a group of kids?
You didnt think that through.
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>>198594938
>I still have no idea if LGBTQ people even exist in that universe
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>>198594938
>I still have no idea if LGBTQ people exist in that universe
Cant you just use your fucking imagination? It's fantasy, just fill in the blanks. They havent shown whether dogs and cats exist in that universe either, who fucking cares. Get a real personality
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>>198595957
>What else do you think people are going to do if they're horny for years without a woman in sight?
Jack off thinking about women? fucking retard
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>>198594938
has tv even read the original 6 novels? there are literally space jews with a space rabbi character kvetching about pogroms
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>>198596390
>pictured: stuff
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>>198596955
>Cant you just use your fucking imagination?
lol. you use your imagination big man, they'll get everything rewritten to suit them. see who wins
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>>198594938
the dune that should have been made instead of muttslop
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I wanted to make a film that would give the people who took LSD at the time the hallucinations that you get with that drug, but without hallucinating. I did not want LSD to be taken, I wanted to fabricate the drug's effects. This film was going to change the public's perceptions
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>>198595957
You are deranged sir
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>>198594938
>In that universe
Why is is so absurd that there is a universe (or hopefully a point in the future) where there is a cure for such degeneracy?
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>>198594938
sexual orientation has now just become a fetish and personality trait to these freaks. I don't care to know if a character goes home and takes it up the ass.
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>>198594938
>I still have no idea
So now if your gay or lesbian you HAVE to tell these people coz it hurts their feelings if they don't know you are?

Jesus christ the entitlement.
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>>198596955
>They havent shown whether dogs and cats exist in that universe either
They dont.
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BENE GESSERIT
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>>198597584
How do you know
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>>198597850
Macroevolution.
They were turned into chairs.
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>>198596955
>>198597584
The Atreides owned pugs.
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Another flop incoming
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>and stuff
He's also clearly kidding.
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>>198598430
Not in the movie, so they dont exist.
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>>198594938
I can’t imagine a situation where I give a shit about what you posted
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>>198598634
It's in the superior movie.
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>>198599046
But that's a Lynch movie so it isnt a pug, it a symbol for psychological stunting and is played by a midget child in a suit.
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>>198595395
They’re just more retarded than is usual
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>>198597514
My dildo.
My anal.
My goon.
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>>198594938
I love how much fags like you have to pervert anything to enjoy it.
Herbert at best was a cuckservative libertarian dude, which 40 years ago didn't mean...well whatever type of pervert you are.
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>>198594938
The Baron's a pedo, so....
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>>198594938
Baron harkonnen is literally gay as fuck and in the second movie has feminine twink servants by his side. Does he need to do a speech about being gay to satisfy you?
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What Brian did was even worse considering he hired another writer to do the shitjob then threw his name on as well
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>>198594938
Oh noes does this mean I'm not media literate? Oh my fucking god you guise I'm having an attack! I thought I was woke like the cool kids but instead I'm a chud?? HELP ME /tv/ I'M MEELLLLTING AAAAAAAAAGHH
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I NEED TO BE VALIDATED FOR MY OPINIONS ONLINE AND I'M NOT BEING VALIDATED?? SAVE ME REDDITMAN I'M BEING DEBOONKED!!
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>>198594938
Who ever tweeted that need to walk in to traffic
>He’s bisexual and stuff
So it a nonfactor in the plot and he is saying that for ESG points,
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>>198600653
>>198600721
Meds? Meds.
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>>198599046
>the superior movie
>Paul and his parents all have different accents
nice going, Dave
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>>198594938
>The author (Frank Herbert) who wrote Dune was a homophobic pro-eugenicist breeding fetishist who was absolutely obsessed with procreation, to the point where he disowned his gay son (Bruce) for being “an evolutionary dead end”, while his other son (Brian) went on to butcher and rape his father’s legacy once he kicked the bucket. Frank also wouldn’t have his gay son at his wife’s deathbed.
Based
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>>198594938
I was sold at homophobic, I will support this based author's work
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pretty funny you listed all those things that are based, the female military makes sense in the context and disowning your gay son and being obsessed with procreation is the natural order
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>>198601093
Woah, he's literally me!
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>>198594938
>The author (Frank Herbert) who wrote Dune was a homophobic pro-eugenicist breeding fetishist who was absolutely obsessed with procreation, to the point where he disowned his gay son (Bruce) for being “an evolutionary dead end”

he's right you know
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*is appropriately homosexual in your path*
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>>198601058
I CAN'T FIND THEM I'M HAVING AN ATTACK!!!
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>>198594938
>The Bene Gesserit aren’t a good example of a “strong” female order either, since they’re terrified of the masculine ego behind closed doors, and worship the coming of a prophecized god-male who they fear they will be unable to even control.
The Bene Gesserit are a bunch of self-serving mystics who veer between mysterious and antagonistic. I'm not sure why you expect them to be an example of a "strong" female order, that's like being disappointed that the Baron isn't a positive role model.
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>>198595254
this
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>>198595652
>unironically linking to reddit
Just go back
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>>198595957
Prison rape is only really a major thing in the US. Probably because of all the gay niggers.
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>>198594938
>The Bene Gesserit blahblahblah and worship the coming of a prophecized god-male who they fear they will be unable to even control.
Work on your reading comprehension, champ. They had been actively working to create said "god-male" and controlling him was the whole point. They SHOULD HAVE feared not being able to control him, but they suffered from institutional hubris (also one of the themes of the books - you should actually read them some time).
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>>198595168
NTA but this shit infuriates me. I'm a bifag but look stereotypically blokish and the amount of times I have to listen to some aggressively straight cunt wittering on about how Stunning And Brave the latest bit of vapid tokenism in media is, and then endure them telling me first that I'm a bigot for disagreeing with them and then floundering and trying to tactfully imply I'm labouring under false consciousness and don't know what's good for me once I reveal my power level, is too damn high.

I *should* be able to think "oh neat this could be fun/hot" when I see some "representation" but instead it just triggers an immediate and intense state of cringe because you just know it was shoehorned in by some atrocious shit purely to "stick it to the chuds" and that the execution will be garbage.
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>>198596540
>but straight men don't do gay things just because there are no women around.
Lol lmao even
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>>198594938
>I'm gay
yeah your post gave that one away.
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>>198596540
>. i hate to burst your faggy "turning straights gay" fetish fantasy bubble, but straight men don't do gay things just because there are no women around.
Nigga cities with military bases near them are literal grindr hotspots for a reason
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>>198594938
>"I still have no idea if LGBT people even exist in that universe."
Absolute audacity of these faggots. Even after anal marriage was finally legalized nationwide, they still keep wanting more and more validation. These people are literally mentally ill and it was only because of a Jew named Silverstein that homosexuality isn't classified as a disorder anymore.
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>>198601950
That reason is they are homosexuals.
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>>198594938
>homophobic pro-eugenicist breeding fetishist who was absolutely obsessed with procreation
He's literally me
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>>198601064
I got a different accent to my parents, kids pick up accents from their peers more than their parents.
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>>198594938
>I’m gay
Stopped reading here.
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>>198594938
>Did you disown the correct child Frank?
Yes. Bruce literally is a genetic dead end, like OP. As for Brian, he gave birth to a son not a clone, His true legacy is his genetics not any unfinished novels his son tinkered with. I wouldn't expect a faggot like OP to understand.
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>>198603030
90% don't. your anecdotal story doesn't change the fact that it's jarring. I don't know why Ferguson didn't just do an American one to make it more cohesive.
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>>198603211
>he gave birth
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>>198594938
the joker is a guy who killed and he's insane.
he's a pathetic loser who hates everyone and can't function right
Who fucking cares about whether or not he wants to have sex with girls or wants to have sex with boys
Society is so fucking dumb and feminized now. These are characters that are supposed to be interesting, so they're above normal shit like that.
Someone being straight is in a story when they have a partner and romance happens. real development happens.
But now we have a bunch of narcissistic faggots running shit now, so everything gets regressed

>durrr jokah is bi he also loves penis inside of his butthole sexuality so complicated duhhhh
like holy shit these people are the fucking dumbest of the dumb
They are so fucking insecure they need to make the whole universe all about them feeling like every fart they have smells good.
No one of any actual value who understands how life works gives a fucking shit if you are a faggot.
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>>198601120
No it isn't it's weird as fuck as mentally ill. Your life should be worth more than just being able to mindlessly reproduce. Homophobes have no greater self worth than a cockroach
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>>198603211
Why are you so obsessed with getting your shit generics out there? You think it's so important for a negligible bit of your genome to enter the disgusting ocean of our species?
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>>198603402
It's a fake tweet you retard
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>>198603030
For the last time you're not british, steve. Just because you saw monty python when you were 5 doesn't mean you have a "cultural connection" to the bongs.
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>>198603549
oh I guess faggots and niggers aren't taking over and this shit doesn't happen
suck my balls nigger
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>>198603402
>the joker is a guy who killed and he's insane.
oh no the horror
no one would be insane in such a nightmare world, that would be crazy.
You are yourself very feminized based off your little sperg out + picture combo.
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>>198603588
I am actually British but my parents are South African as fuck.
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As far as old sci-fi authors go, Heinlein had more fun fetishes. Like the one about the guy who goes back in time and fucks his mom. Or the catgirl who goes into heat occasionally and fucks anything that moves.
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>>198603530
Don't judge him too harshly anon, as a poorly educated subnormal who spends every waking moment when he's not masturbating over anime waifus fantasizing about a version of reality where he's the protagonist of a cheesy ww2 pulp action flick told from the Nazi perspective or shitposting here, he's hardly likely to accomplish anything through his deeds or profound thought. Tricking some dumb hole into carrying his spawn is the only way he could possibly salve his egotistical need for metaphorical immortality.
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>>198595303
her eyes are way too dilated for that lighting

she's drugged up to the gills
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>>198595503
>Villaineuve, who is heavily, heavily invested in OpenAI stock
Is this true?
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>>198594938
Whats this nigga talking about, Scytale is a genderfluid James Bond
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>>198597584
We know D-Wolves exist so domesticated dogs aren't a stretch
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>>198604373
>>198603530
>>198603470
BA S E D
R E P L I E S
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This timeline sucks
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>>198594938
Eventually people are going to realize all creators are human with their own individual foibles so singling some of them out and their works by extension as offensive is an exercise in futility. .

>>198595092
He died in the 90's though. Even in '84, with the epidemic fresh in the public mind, I doubt Lynch was thinking on that level.
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>>198604755
Those planets are dangerously close
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>>198601251
He was too based.



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