What's your favorite Godzilla movie?
Whichever is the shortest.
>>198604198Wait what is that image from? I don't know that album.
>>198604207Still kino.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-rbzcEM8A
>>198604239It's the Criterion Showa Collection. I just added added the text since it looks more like a Reel Big Fish album cover than anything to do with the Showa series. Made a couple others for fun.
Haven't seen Minus One, GXK or the anime.> Godzilla vs Biollante> Gamera 3 - Revenge of Irys> Gamera 2 - Advent of Legion> Godzilla 1985 (American version specifically)gap> Godzilla vs Destroyah> Godzilla 2000 (American version specifically)small gap (order not exact after this point)> Terror of MechaGodzilla> Gojira / Godzilla King of the Monsters (54)> Godzilla King of the Monsters (19)> Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla 2> Mothra vs Godzilla / Godzilla vs The Thing> GMK (ranking very unclear at this point, used to be above destroyah)
GMKEbirah had my brother and I crying from laughter (in a The Room sorta way) tho
>>198604198Godzilla
>>198604307Oh that's cool I guess. In response to your initial question, for me it's Shin.
>>198604198the 90s gamera trilogy
Minus OneAlso one of my favorite movies in general now
>>198604198Godzilla vs. Biollante.
>>198604335>Ranking dubs and Gamera that high>1954 that lowTerrible taste.
>>198604375Shin is based as fuck, and a legit pleb filter.Everything this piece of shit was supposed to be.
>>198604335I just watched Gamera 2 and I really liked it but I didn't find it to be that much better or different than Gamera: Guardian of the Universe. If anything I found Legion to be a bit of a rip off of the Destroyahs.I like Burr's speech at the end but I don't see how the US version of Return of Godzilla is better and definitely don't see KOTM 56 as the same movie as 54 Gozilla.
>>198604434That's my favorite ranking not objective best ranking.Objective best would be Bio, Gam2-3 & 1954 all about equal with each other.The Gamera trilogy is a masterpiece even with Guardian IMO being lesser than 2-3.
>>198604198Probably Shin, but actually getting to see Minus One in theaters was greatBest RBF album is Cheer Up! Honorable mention to Candy Coated Fury
Is there a kongira movie where he's a good boy and just wants a family but he gets attacked by humans and kills everyone?
>>198604434>>198604533>I like Burr's speech at the end but I don't see how the US version of Return of Godzilla is betterMy full review for both cuts of 84.CONS> The semi comic relief hobo is lame & the leads shunningly refusing him when he offers help in the middle of apocalyptic hell is really bizarre & sadly indirectly results in his death.> Nether the suit nor the cybot's faces look all that great when straight on, the eyes are too large on both.PROS> Great main suit. Love the lower placement of the spines.> The Cybot's mouth, fangs & curling lips look fantastic.> Wonderful score.> Probably the best city set of the franchise. Love that despite Godzilla's increased size the modern skyscrapers still tower over him.> Everything feels sleek & incredibly modernized compared to the 1970s G films.> Some of the best military engagements & tech porn of the series.> The boat sequence with the victims of the sea lice being found is fairly effective & moody. Similar to the boat sequence in The H-Man.PROS ADDED BY THE AMERICAN EDITS> The added American score tracks from Def Con are great & fit with the original score basically seamlessly.> The American opening credits are superior for building seriously ominous mood.> Burr's presence gives a nice nostalgic connection to the original film.> The American military personnel while a little campy don't go too far & it gives a glimpse at the rest of the world's reaction to these events.> Dub is decent.> A few poor special effects shots involving the Cybot are removed.Possibly most importantly...> The editing of the build up to the missile collision is vastly superior in the American cut. In the Japanese cut they cut away from the countdown at the last minute & then return to it as a after thought.CONS OF THE AMERICAN EDITS> A cool artful shot of Godzilla reflected in windows is removed.> Reversal of the Soviet's intentions (I personally don't care about this at all it works fine ether way)
>>198604539You only thing you're right on is Biollante being one of the best, GMK BTFO's the Gamera trilogy, even if though they're good they're overhyped as hell.
>>198604198The one everyone hates.
>>198604434>>Ranking dubs that highThe American cut of 2000 is universally considered superior even in Japan. The pacing & especially sound editing is vastly better.
Shin is best overall.Biollante is best classic.
>>198604198Shin Godzilla. Showa era is the comfiest though.
>>198604597fair enough. I'm glad you like the mutated sea lice, I think its nice setup for the tone of the movie
>>198604598>GMK BTFO's the Gamera trilogyAbsolute bullshit.GamTril has vastly better foe monsters with vastly better effects for them.GamTril has better human characters and I say that as a fan of GMK's humans as well.Scores are about equal.GamTril has better more realistic military porn.
ShinMinus OneBiollanteFinal Wars
>>198604633>>198604646Anyone who says Shin isn't a real G fan
>>198604598>>198604694Also GamTril is much more tonally consistent than Gmk.
>>198604597You missed the one of the only things that genuinely makes me interested in 1985, Godzilla's amazing and vastly superior death roar.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0hfmLWi2-MAlso, Burr was based as fuck for reprising his role, and forcing everyone to take the film seriously. That being said,>Decent dubNo such thing. If there was an edit that preserved the Japanese dialogue while seamlessly adding in Burr/Steve Martin, I'd entertain the notion that it could be seen as the superior version, but dubbing over live action actors is one of the most obscenely disgusting acts of localization to exist, and legitimately invalidates any such version from being in any way viewable as an alternative to the original/intended version. Any one who says otherwise is a blatant localization and censorship apologist.
>>198604198The most enjoyable one when I was a kid was All out monsters attack. Zombie Godzilla was kino and I found it really bold that a Japanese director took a symbol of Japanese popular culture and turned him into a criticism of Japan's wartime conduct
Did anyone else used to collect G-Fan magazine's back in the day? Wish I still had my collection. Individuals issues are pretty expensive now.
I think 50-60 meters is the maximum size kaiju should be with 1 or 2 outliers. Any bigger and it seems less of a threat and more of a lumbering prescence.
Invasion of Astro-Monsterthe other elite films are 1954, Mothra vs Godzilla, Godzilla vs Hedorah, Terror of Mechagodzilla, Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla II, GMK, and Shin
>>198604696>Shin>Minus One>Biollante>Final WarsReplace Minus One with 1954 or Against Mechagodzilla and this would be an extremely based post.
>>198604721I am a real G fan, what I'm not is a retarded G fan. I have a lot of love for the wrestling eras of godzilla films, but I'm not nearly dumb enough to think that those are the pinnacle of what the franchise is capable of. Which, thus far, is Shin G.
VOTE FOR BEST!https://strawpoll.com/e6Z28qLXGnNIMO Return of/Godzilla 1985 is better than Shin-Godzilla.85 has better mood, more military porn, a better overall godzilla design, a better ending, more G screentime & better pacing than Shin.Shin has better destruction (for 1 scene), sexier women & possibly a better score (85's score is still fantastic)Shin is severely overrated & I say that as a Anno fan.
>>198604721cope
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VOTE FOR BEST!https://strawpoll.com/6QnMOE518Ze/Can we agree these are the absolute best showa films aside from Gojira?
>>198604884Lmao
>>198604884>Reddit spacing>IMO 1985 is better than Shin
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>>198604962Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster and Invasion of the Astro Monster are both way better than Terror. Terror isn't even as good as vs. Mechagodzilla.https://youtu.be/WbuJ9FRm2zs?si=zkLWmf9a1dfFk239&t=150
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>>198604198Who remembers this Godzilla documentary? Major part of my childhood.https://youtu.be/VWi4luk9PhY?si=Zl4PAHFCCd6vkifg
>>198605043>Terror isn't even as good as vs. Mechagodzilla.Absolutely fucking delusional.
>>198604198I never liked this image because the atomic blast is drawn Godzilla's mouth. You can tell the artist thought the teeth looked too cool (which they are) and didn't want to sacrifice any of Godzilla. He wanted his cake and to eat it too but the end result looks stupid.
>>198605047What the fuck even is that comparison, you sperg? You're just spamming until you can get the majority to vote for 1985 over some other random movie that has nothing in common with it. Here's a better pole:https://strawpoll.com/DwyoDJe10nA
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>>198604873>wrestling eras of godzilla filmsThe Showa era? Most would admit that they're objectively the weakest. The Hesei era offered a much better narrative than Shin as did most of the millennium ones.
VOTE FOR BEST!https://strawpoll.com/GPgV6ebJBga/For me...> GvBarugon > Gorgo >>> GvGyaos >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Invincible
>>198604198GMK and Biollante
>>198605154welcome newfriend
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>>198605073I'm not calling Terror some steaming pile of shit or anything, but vs. Mechagodzilla had less rushed character development (even if it's less somber), and had a much more unique and original take on the aliens whereas Honda blatantly turned them into clones of The Mysterians, a much superior soundtrack (I love Ifukube, but the dude reuses cues way too much, and Terror is one of his worst offenders for this habit). It also had the Fake Godzilla kino in the beginning, Fake Godzilla vs. Aguirus, and King Ceasar too, who had a really cool backstory.
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>>198605306all of these movies are complete shit
>>1986045971985 was the first G film I ever saw back in 1986 and has been my favorite since.I watch it at least once a week, and I tend to alternate between '84 and '85. The pros and cons you listed are pretty comprehensive. The missing mirror shot of the building sucks, but Burr's speech and the absolutely soul crushing cry as Godzilla falls into the volcano really make the ending impactful. I think there's something good to be said for pretty much every Godzilla film. Including '98 and Godzilla's Revenge. I feel that the three, well, now four solo Godzilla films are still among the best. For me, the solo films go like this: 1)85/842)Minus One (though I do believe this is the BEST Godzilla film ever made even if its not my favorite) 3)Shin4)'54. I enjoy '54, and it will always be a beautifully made piece of art, but I can't watch it repeatedly like I can the other films in the series. Also, I'd probably murder someone for pic related. It's the Godzilla Comp Poster. The image is from some Japanese magazine, and they added the text to help promote the NES game (which I love).
>>198605306>Everyone here like Jurassic Park 3I knew this board had some taste.
>>198605367Predators has zero flaws aside from wasting Fishborne & Eric is a serial killer subplot.
>>198605409It's also been posted on /m/.
>>198605391>I think there's something good to be said for pretty much every Godzilla filmAgreed. Same with James Bond.> Including '98 and Godzilla's RevengeI would say 98 is outright very good.I've heard the anime Trilogy is worse than Revenge but haven't see them.
>>198605391>Minus OneNo greater indication of a normalfag fake fan. Minus One was good by virtue of being better than every alternative, the film itself is basically a mashup of themes and mise en scene lifted directly from Godzilla 1954, GMK, and Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla. Also, The Eternal Zero to those who know. And all of which was done better, and more originally in those films. I enjoyed the film, but it's laughably flawed in almost every aspect, from acting, to costuming, to character writing, and it getting the praise the series has been deserving of for decades is an absolute monkey's paw, even if it's not the worst monkey's paw in the world.
>>198605511Oh, geeze. I completely forgot about the anime trilogy. lol. They get worse as they go on. The first one is probably still better than Revenge, though. '98 isn't a bad film, but it's a bad Godzilla film. I've always sort of looked at it as an out of control Jurassic Park. Revenge introduced Gabara who is ugly as sin, but it's something new.
>>198605511>I would say 98 is outright very good.Based, always happy to see fellow 1998 chads. To bad we'll never be able to post on the original 1998 Godzilla.com's bulletin board.
>>198605511>>198605735>>198605781fuck off
>>198605735>>198605792Both of you can fuck off, Godzilla 1998 is an excellent Godzilla film, and very accurate to the 1954 depiction.
>>198605670And I suppose you think that '91 Ghidorah is a good film, too. lol. GMO's director says GMK is his favorite G film, so of course several of the shots were pretty much copied. The entire human cast was great to the point that I would watch a film of just those characters. We don't need to see eye to eye on GMO, but every non-Godzilla fan I know that's seen it has said it was incredible.
>>198605857>And I suppose you think that '91 Ghidorah is a good film, too. lol.I certainly prefer it over Minus One. Probably my pick for 3rd best Heisei film. (2nd depending on how I feel about 1984 on that day).
I think Minus One (Minus Color) is my current favorite but that might just be recency bias or the fact I saw it in a theater (the only others being 2014 and 1998).There's also a lot I haven't watched yet; the only ones I've seen in full are 1998, 2000, 2014, Shin, Against MechaGodzilla, vs Megalon, vs MechaGodzilla, vs Hedorah, KotM, vs Kong, 1954, Mothra vs Godzilla, and Minus One. That's roughly the order I saw them which is a bit bassackwards.
>>198605857I think vs Ghidorah is one of the best of the Heisei eras. Its not as serious as the prior two movies but I like the cast and the attempt to try and do a "grounded" take on Astro Monster but end up switching aliens with evil future globalists and making Ghidorah some abomination that was bread to be mind controlled. And he's still a huge jobber. I like how you get a glimpse of them utilizing Godzilla but they never negate Heisei Godzilla being the main villain (something Space Godzilla didn't really maintain). Also Mecha Ghidorah is cool and so is seeing Heisei era effects in broad daylight at the end. But ya know, the beam battle Heisei shit.
>>198606207Are you PointlessHub?I didn't like your video on Godzilla 1998
>>198606234I like how staunchly the Heisei era kept the "no-alien" rule, and made fun of the Showa era for it. Like how in Biollante the ransom note is signed to "Alien.)
>>198605230You don't know shit about Godzilla lol
>>198606278No; I don't even know who that is.
>>198605857>>198605957>>198606234GvKGPros!> IMO the single best G suit of the franchise.> Ghidorah & MKG look great.> The final Tokyo set is among the best of the series.> Battles are all very good.> Great score.> Shendo is among the best human characters of the series & gives possibly the biggest 2 emotional beats.> The fleshed out origin for G (pre-time travel) is solid.> The time travel plot is very inventive & unique for the franchise.> Film felt/looks sleek & modern.> Miki returns & we see how she has grown out of the youthful shy shell she had in vs Bio.> The UFO prop is well crafted & detailed.Cons!> The resultant effects (or lack thereof) of changing history are incoherent/unexplained.> I'm fine with the overall Japanese nationalist message but the campy caricature of the WW2 American army personal & their dialogue is hyper cringy/grating.> The Dorats look like cheap toys.> The time travel villains are just kinda off & weakly performed. The leader gets a few decent lines but that is it.> The ginger Terminator was semi cringe.
VOTE FOR BEST!https://strawpoll.com/polls/40ZmdmAdRga/Both are comfy with the tropical setting. Both have sexy brown jungle girls.Both have underwhelming villains compared to Ghidorah however the effects/puppets for them are solid.
>>198606489Oh god, he's back. What the fuck is with your debate club autist posts?
>>198606537>debate club autist posts??????????
>>198604198godzilla vs mechagodzilla and godzila vs giganthose were the ones i owned on vhs when i was a kid
>>198606559I mean, I'll give that you're on topic, but basically just asking others to judge what they think of your own random opinions. Why do you care that much about what others think of your own opinion?
>>198606489>> The resultant effects (or lack thereof) of changing history are incoherent/unexplained.My theory for the time travel in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah is that history up to the 1992 expedition is not actually changed in memory or physical reality. The effects of changing history in 1944 did not take material effect until the expedition returns to 92. It's more 2 different timelines crudely stitched / spliced together at the exact return point rather than a actual overwriting of the prior 48 years. Hence in further Heisei films...- Godzilla's 54 rampage and the use of the Oxygen destroyer absolutely physically happened in the new Frankenstein-ed reality resulting in Destroyah.- Biollante is mentioned in Godzilla vs Space Godzilla despite never should have been created had history actually been overwritten.- The events of 84/89 happened hence Super-X3 existing in GVD.
>>198606622You are severely over thinking it. I am just giving my reviews. I don't expect everyone to agree.
>>198604198Skull Island
>>198606489>but the campy caricature of the WW2 American army personal & their dialogue is hyper cringy/grating.Actually I thought the depictions of Americans in the film was rather gallant and gratifying to us. They even sent a loving nod to one of America's greatest filmmakers who fell in love films when he saw the original.Also, does anyone have the gif of the Android running?
SON OF GODZILLA
>>198606853Severely underrated movie. This and Ebirah are maximum comfy for the series, and this one has some heart warming cute moments. Still the worst Godzilla design in the series, IDGAF what you think of Shin or 98.
>>198606489I feel like the film portrayed the japanese nationalism as misguided by the end of the film
>>198606939Agreed on all points.
>>198607043That's an interesting take on it I haven't heard on it before. Most just regard it as nostalgia for the old times while acknowledging that they're gone.
>>198604198Minus One was pretty damn good, but that's a normie answerI like that one where the cute girl becomes a Mechagodzilla pilotThat one where the whole thing is in a kid's imagination isn't as bad as everyone says it isGodzilla Island is kinoFirst half of Shin is great, but it always loses me towards the end
I like chibi godzilla.
>>198607491For me, it's GoJira-kun.
>>198607491yeah originally i thought it was for babies but theres some actually good jokes and references
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>>198607441It's sirprising how many people like All Monsters Attack, I remember that one TK review gave it glowing review as a view into the culture of Japan at the time.
what is the least reddit godzilla?
>>198604198godzilla x konggodzilla vs kongminus one>you normiei've seen all the movies and there's a chance I've been a fan longer than you
>>198609281Godzilla 1998. It takes a certain level of sincerity to understand what Godzilla is, and how this represents that against the overwhelming negative bias surrounding it.
>>198607441>That one where the whole thing is in a kid's imagination isn't as bad as everyone says it isonly really bad thing is the massive amounts of stock footage but I did love it a kid it was like a godzilla greatest hits with a spergy protagonist
and forever will be, since it was the one that introduced me to godzilla
>>198609598Based.
>>198609478That doesn't make your normie opinion less shit.
Why do I have to wait till May 3 to watch minus one on pir-streaming?
>>198610342Because Toho is incompetent as hell.
>>198608645It is. The execution of the themes is something no one seems to take into account these days.
>>198604798I have many issues I downloaded from archive.org but there are some issues missing.
