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Moeka Edition
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I believe Fuji agreed to stay with Anjin after the boat scene.
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>>198608047
This
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Shogoon lol
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>>198607927
Anon... it's over...
It's time to let /sho/ die too.
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>>198607927
would plap
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>>198608084
Not yet.
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>>198608047
I like how we just got old ass Anjin lookin like he was gonna cry which is how he usually always fucking looks.
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>>198608110
>What do you seek in Japan
I'VE COME TO BREEEEED
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cute tum
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>>198607927
This Toranaga guy... I think he's a real jerk!
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will she really go become a nun or stay?
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>>198608481
stay and make HAPAs
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>>198608219
>>198608280
this tummy needs butterfly kisses and motorboating
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>>198608494
nobody wanting to see a woman have sex wants to see a mans balls and dick and the thigh gap below them and the dick flexing after ejaculation
this video is for gay men
perhaps gay asian men
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Its a good thing /sho/ is dying considering a lot of you were asking if the dream of him being old was real or not
some real dumb fucks in this general
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>>198608569
it cant be real, the guy the book is based on lived the rest of his life in Japan and never returned
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>>198608605
The bigger reason it can't be real is that he drops Mariko's rosary in the water.
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>>198608110
Her facial expressions are just the best
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>>198608605
He had a wife and kids. So assume it’s either Kiku the Whore or Fuji.
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>>198608817
He is the shogun's hatamoto, he wouldn't marry a whore. It's probably some random bitch from a noble family.
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>>198608861
One taste of BWC had her desperate to leave her life of whoredom behind so that she could be properly pleasured for the rest of her days
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Shogun put me in the mood for a Shogunate Japan run in Vicky 2.
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And the FX ratings for the big season finale of Shogun 2024 are in.

Oh dear. How unfortunate.
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>>198608110
God she’s so perfect, even as a Mariko-enjoyer
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What the fuck is wrong with the Japanese?

>I said something mean, time to kill myself
>You're gonna kill yourself? I'm gonna kill myself first
>You won't let me leave? Time to kill myself
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>>198609596
What happens to your ratings when you don't have Blackthorn declare his love for Fuji and impregnate her on screen.
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>>198609702
Honestly... it's not a bad response to alot of things.
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>>198609702
I think about this with how big their population is for not a lot of land. Imagine how much bigger it would be if they didn't seppuku for being rude or spazzing out for Hirohito during ww2.
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>>198609702
>be 17th century samurai transported to the future
>in an online argument with some barbarian
>he tells me to kill myself
>mfw
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Do you think he actually did it with Kiku or was he too busy wanting Mariko to bang her?
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>>198609913
Kiku was under orders by Toranaga to make sure he came inside, and that Mariko was in earshot at the minimum.
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When does season 2 start?
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>>198608280
>>198608219
Too flat belly
She needs to be impregnated by me
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>>198609935
I don't think she was. Mariko's orders were literally just "organize a night at the brothel for him" and Toronaga wasn't in contact with the brothel at that point
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Did japs actually just sit around on the floor talking about dying all the time until they commit suicide?
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>>198610086
Occasionally they got up and murdered all the friends of someone else and then told that person to commit suicide
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No Fumi enjoyers itt?
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>>198608122
lmao
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>>198610158
Konnichiwa, anon dono. Please slit your belly at the sunset.
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>>198607927
show is over. mods delete this, else it turns into some stealth wmaf general
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>>198610563
>stealth
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>>198610563
That's all /sho/ ever was.
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>>198610158
Everybody is a Fumi enjoyer
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>>198608047
That'd be nice.
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>>198610318
She looks Latino here
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>>198608546
I can tell you're a virgin.
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>>198612101
It’s a mystery as to what she is exactly
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Surprised nobody has mentioned how cute it is that Fuji learned a word in English (or Portuguese) for Blackthorne
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>>198612232
The Fuji posting has finally gotten to me, I give in, I give up

She is CUTE
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>>198607927
Since Blackthorne was historically having asian children does it mean Fuji won in the end?
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>>198608454
Crimson sky.....(explodes with laughter)
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>>198608481
Nuns in japan are non celibate
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>>198612439
Blackthorn needs to save Fuji from making a terrible mistake. She still has many many years of fertility, and throwing that all away to be a nun is retarded.
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>>198609505
For me its total war shogun 2 as Tokugawa clan playing as Toranaga
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>>198612052
>>198610158
She's cute but I don't even remember her from the show
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>>198612519
That doesn't allow me to invade Korea, strom the Chinese capital, seize the mandate of heaven and realise Hideyoshi's vision
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>>198612543
Toranaga only wanted to kill fellow japanese with cannons. I hope they make season 2 where he and Anjin go against Iyo and her brat emperor like Tokugawa did forcing them into seppuku
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>>198612540
I don't even remember her from the show
What? She's the heir's mom
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>>198612519
>>198612543
There's an extended mod to add literally every single feif and province of Japan as well as mainland asia so when you're done becoming the top dog of the Samurai you can go fuck up the Portuguese, Spanish, Koreans, Manchus Mongols and Chinese.
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>>198613149
Mod to what game?
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>>198612800
Toranaga historicaly turns on her and force her to seppuku
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>>198613169
Shogun 2
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>>198609596
Lol. I feel like even Better Call Saul had higher weekly ratings than that, and BCS was considered a ratings shit-show through it's entire run.
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>>198613189
I think I've seen it but I imagine something like that would completely fuck up the balance of the vanilla game.

I find it hard to imagine the new landmass is even close to being as well designed as the original map, usually if a mod is good there would be way more videos about in on youtube but all I could find was one guy who just tested the new units
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>>198613186
It's not certain, her son yes, he commited seppuku, however Yodo-dono's body was never found. She's assumed to have commited suicide, but we don't know 100%
She probly died there anyways, but she bought herself a decade of luxurious life, not so bad for 1600s Japan anyways.
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>>198612489
>Fuji will give Anjin hapa seafaring warrior monks
I can see a sequel of Hapa Jedi bring pirates for the Dutch East India Company in raiding the coast of Portuguese Macao and of Ming dynasty’s China.
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How did Yabushige steal the show so easily? Every scene with him is gold.
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>>198609596
Mike, do you hate japkino because anime weebs bullied you in the past?
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>>198608047
This is official /sho/ lore canon.
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What's up with these japs and threatening suicide?
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>>198608760
Maybe he fished it out of the water later? It’s not impossible, or even improbable - see ‘Japanese pearl divers’.
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>>198609702
Japanese are like Klingons. They leave the womb with only one thing on their mind: how to die.
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>>198610158
She doesn’t look good in this photo.
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Bit confused about the last episode.How did toranaga even have an army to fight with? I thought his army was rekt in the earthquake. And wasn't his brothers' army surrounding him preventing him from doing anything? Did his brother legit just leave to osaka and take his whole army away with him? Why?
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>>198609702
Kind of like people setting themselves on fire because they didn't like their overlords waging war on some bumfucks?
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>>198610318
If she has an itch on her face and needs to scratch, why go through the burden of putting her arm under her sweater? And you all say this guy is the autistic one?
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>>198615902
>How did toranaga even have an army to fight with?
He was raising a new army after his old one got rekt. He still had a lot of allies other than his brother to his cause. That's why he needed to delay war until he can re-assemble his army.

>And wasn't his brothers' army surrounding him preventing him from doing anything?
That's why he used his son's death as an excuse to leave. He put on a show that he was completely defeated and resigned to his fate by killing his senior retainer, which helped convince his brother to let him leave for Edo to mourn his son.
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>>198615902
>how did toranaga
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>>198608047

He had a chance to lock that pussy down when she was officially his consort, but he went with Mariko. He bet on the wrong pony.
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The show absolutely blew itself apart when it started adding wom*nshit to the episodes. The zoomer women and the zoomer son of Toranaga are no doubt music video/tiktok "actors". The writers ran out of things to say so they focused on more modern messaging like how hard it is to be a wom*n, or how hard it is to be in an interracial love triangle. On top of this wom*n are seen in the war room with men discussing military strategy, it is a fairy tale trying to mask itself as a historic epic, and that's what killed it.
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>>198616013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwVpcUflMyk
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>>198616643
Ok, this just made me sad. I feel bad for the poor guy.
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>>198616460
it's just as bad in the books, even the book ending sucked and got many complaints decades ago
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>>198616460
Has a frogposter ever had a non-shit opinion?
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>>198616643
cosmo is cute and the only piece of soul in this
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>>198608047
his grandkids were white retard
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>>198616801
He never left Japan, it’s just his imagination
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>>198616801
Him having Mariko's cross didn't clue you in that it was entirely a dream?
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>>198610031
>I don't think she was. Mariko's orders were literally just "organize a night at the brothel for him" and Toronaga wasn't in contact with the brothel at that point

Just another example of the new show fucking up the original story, where Mariko (like all Japanese at the time) has respect for and is fascinated by Kiku and (at least high class) courtesans in general who are treated kinda like movie stars. She's glad to go with Anjin-san to the bordello because women aren't allowed there and they are beautifully built and decorated and she'll get to see all this and hangout with Kiku, who has been trained since childhood to be a beautiful and talented conversationalist and musician, etc. They were far more then just whores.
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>>198616801
How retarded are you? That was a fever dream. He was holding the cross that Mariko gave him, which he threw in the ocean with Fuji.
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>>198616013
He's just a shy dude. It's actually kinda endearing.
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>>198617072
So you're saying they should have spent more time focusing on whores which you said was a bad thing in this series, boomer?
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is there anything good in terms of cosmokino on this list or was this his breakout performance?
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>>198617157
Raised by Wolves is actually great and he was pretty good in it, shame it was cancelled.
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>>198617157
This is his breakout performance desu, a shame - hope he gets more roles n the future.
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Why are we still here?
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>>198617157
watch lady macbeth. lots of sex scene with florence pugh. he tries to rape her at the beginning.
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>>198615902
>Bit confused about the last episode.How did toranaga even have an army to fight with? I thought his army was rekt in the earthquake.

The new tv show is garbage, the earthquake wiping out his army is needless shitty new content written by the hack screen writers. Toranaga was the single most powerful daimyo in Japan but against Ishido and the allied council, (and all the hostage daimyos) he'd never win a straight-up war and everybody knew this, thus Mariko and Toranaga's plan to put Ishido in a political bind by sending her to Osaka and forcing Ishido to either let her leave with Toranaga's ex-wife and consort or kill her or forced her to commit seppuku, any one of which would break up the anti-Toranaga alliance.
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So do you think Buntaro and Anjin-sama became decent friends after?
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>>198616643
What's his problem?
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>>198617295
Was pretty much implied they did.
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>>198610158
imagine busting a fat load on her tits and face jesus christ
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>>198617295
Probably not friends but I think they both learned to put aside their past to be cordial with each other. They're both going to be seeing each other a lot as the Shogun's hatamoto.
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>>198617295
I mean, can you really become friends wiith someone who cucks you?
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Okay but John HAS to fuck another chick to have kids like his irl counterpart so, who was she?
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Hey guys this is weird but I look a lot like Cosmo and have been matching with a bunch of asian chicks on tinder lately. This game is doing for me what Chris Pratt did for fat guys.
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>>198609596
Not enough female nudity
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>>198617117
>So you're saying they should have spent more time focusing on whores

No, I'm saying the new show predictably fucked up the scene with Mariko setting up a date for Anjin-san and Kiku. In the book, the reader (via Mariko and Blackthorn) gets an insight on Japanese history and culture and the Mariko+Anjin-san love story is furthered as well as the political/historical ramifications of this, as Kiku and her madam instantly clue onto Mariko being in love with Blackthorn with the madam essentially blackmailing Mariko into getting her an audience with Toranaga, which leads to the creation of yoshiwara red light districts and geisha girls.

Kiku and the madam play a much larger role in the book.

>which you said was a bad thing in this series, boomer?

That was a different anon.
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>>198617367
This one
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>>198616643
>and... yes.
He's officially our guy.
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>>198609596
Has any show ever fallen this hard in just one season before
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>>198617295
>So do you think Buntaro and Anjin-sama became decent friends after?

No, there was too much bad blood between them but in Clavell's novel "Noble House" set in the 1963, we learn that both the Todas (Buntaro and his dad Hiromatsu's family) and the Kashigis (Yabu and Omi's clan) worked with Blackthorn and thru him, got into the ship building business that eventually becomes a huge corporation.
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>>198609596
I'm a retard who doesn't understand Nielsen ratings. Is this really that bad?
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>>198617830

Rightmost column is total viewers. Next to that is the rating in Points -- about 1.3M viewers per Point in the Demo, Adults 18-49 that advertisers crave.

For a flagship series and the "second most expensive FX series ever" rather a damp squib.
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Fuji and Yabu better win an Emmy.
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> The reason I took the role this time is because I believe we need this kind of hero right now. We need the hero who brings about peace. That’s a very good message for the world

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/shogun-finale-hiroyuki-sanada-interview-1235881195/

So, Peace at any price, with a rigid dictatorial social order enforced by arbitrary violence is -- good okay?
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>>198618234
>So, Peace at any price, with a rigid dictatorial social order enforced by arbitrary violence is -- good okay?
Yes. This is the Japanese spirit~
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>>198618234
>>198618074
But STD is the highest rated streaming series this week, right?
Oh, wait. Why was it cancelled?
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>>198608084

One last thread before seppuku
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>>198618234
The rigid dictatorial social order was already there. Considering the times Tokugawa actually did a damn good job of stopping all the violence. He refused to invade Korea and China like Toyotomi did as well.
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>>198608481

I seriously hope she didn't become a nun, since in 1634 (the show takes place in 1600) Christianity gets banned in Japan and every monk/nun in the country gets beheaded if they don't renounce their faith publicly.
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>>198609890
Kek
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Could you defeat a female samurai, /sho/bros?
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>>198618552
Buddhist nun, retard. It's what Daiyoin was, the lady who told Toranaga he must become Shogun.
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>>198618351
>second from right
almighty god in heaven
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>>198617076
he's already been established as an expert swimmer and diver. it's blatantly obvious he retrieved the cross afterwards. you are media illiterate and out of your depth.
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>>198618617
I do not know, anon-sama but I would try my best, osu!
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>>198608047
Anjin is the worst isekai protagonist ever, what sort of loser spends months in another world with a high position and acquires 0 slave girls?
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>>198617267
>the earthquake
Might have made more sense if it just killed a few guys and it was regarded as bad Feng Shui or whatever Asian voodoo they believe
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>>198618234
>So, Peace at any price, with a rigid dictatorial social order enforced by arbitrary violence is -- good okay?
Yes. Look at the middle east.
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>>198616643
More like Show Over.
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>>198618667
If you’d read the book you’d know that’s false. Also, that part with the flash-forward as he’s trying to sudoku himself is him relinquishing his future in England. His fate is to never leave Japan, as Toranaga says.
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>>198618617
>POV: You are a sailor who just set foot on Japan when the savage natives attack you
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>>198618234
Anyone else feel like white people do not to bad under pretty bad disorder? While Asians are terrified of even the slightest disorder because they immediately revert to cannablism?
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>>198618234
>So, Peace at any price, with a rigid dictatorial social order enforced by arbitrary violence is -- good okay?
It's not arbitrary if the point is to order society.
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>>198618617
Unarmed while wearing full plate sans codpiece
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Reminder that Blackthorne saw through Toranaga's bullshit and just went along with it because it's the only way to maybe get his ship rebuilt.
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>>198616643
Me but I’m not a tall talented actor
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>>198619006
yes, it's a matter of how individualist the society is
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>>198619001
perfect sized everything
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>>198619081
Reminder they cut out the scene where Rodergies tells Blackthorne Toranagalamasama secretly sold him to the Captain of the Black ship.
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>>198618617
If she had nicer lips.
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>>198619001
I would absolutely obliterate this thing in either hand-to-hand or sword-to-sword combat. No challenge.
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>>198617157
Calm with horses is great and it has Barry in it too. Two guys who will be leading stars for a long time
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>>198619157
What about tongue to butthole combat
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>>198619081
He knows that Toranaga burned it himself and will burn it again, Toranaga suddenly stopping the hunt for the "spies" who burned it after his attempt at seppuku made that obvious. He just knows that despite being stuck in Japan he has a pretty comfy position. Might as well make the best of it.
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>>198607927
Shotgun Shogun when
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>>198616643
Friendly reminder that if he were a woman everyone would be talking about how brave she is for making it in the industry with her condition. Instead, Cosmo goes on the official Shogun podcast and gets pushed along and exasperatedly sighed at by a woman who writes poetry like this. Absolutely clown world.
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>>198618924
What did he mean by this?
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>>198619250
What condition?
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>>198618905
>>the earthquake
>Might have made more sense if it just killed a few guys

That's what happens in the book, only a handful of troops are killed. The point of the earthquake scene is to show the reader that this is a constant danger in Japan and relates to their belief in karma, Blackthorn having never experienced one and most importantly, him saving Toranaga after he falls in a crevice and this leading to Blackthorn being made a hatamoto.

The lame new tv show not only fucked it up by killing most of Toranaga's troops but it ruined the scene with Blackthorn risking his life by _single handedly_ saving Toranaga and instead, has a bunch of random guys jump in hole with him, further making Blackthorn an irrelevant NPC.
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>>198619250
So? As another autistic man who is liked by women for some odd reason I like him.
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>>198619336
John was already a hatamoto, saving Toranaga during the earthquake is what got him a fief and a retinue. Fake fan.
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>>198616801
Um…media literacy? Helloooo? Sweetly, I’m so sorry. Oof. And finally, yikes.
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>>198610158
She's actuall four years younger than Anna, looks like they made her a bit look older with makeup
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>>198619470
Man they both look ugly here.
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>>198617367
The IRL counterpart married a minor bureaucrat’s daughter.
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>>198619486
Are you gay?
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>>198617426
Game?
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>>198619527
No? I think they’re both hot as just not in that over exposed photo lol.
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>>198616643
ofc the Thai Ladyboy has to blabber about diversity and representation.
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>>198617830
It’s fine. Hulu has 1/5 the subscribers that Netflix does, so it’s punching well above its weight.
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>>198618552
Considering it’s the family shrine I doubt it’s a catholic nun she’s becoming. More like the wife of the Taiko became.
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>>198607927
Every deviation from the novel was for the worse. Watch the action scenes on youtube and skip the rest is you value your time.
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Just found out Toranaga's name translates to Tiger Serpent
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>>198619125
They didn’t sell him to the captain of the black ship on this playthrough. The captain wanted a slice of the silk trade. They just abandoned Blackthorne on Toranagas galley to be captured.
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Spaceman Jones Sekigahara 47Ronin - Japanese AD - Tommy Lee Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIHMz78-qWQ
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>>198619157
I’d destroy her in hand-to-gland cumbat.
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>>198619728
No it doesn't you fucking retard
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>>674592273
>Asian men hate the show because a white guy fucks Asian women
>Catholics hate the show because John Blackthorne hates them
>Protestants hate the show because John didn't do a whole lot to defeat the Catholics
>Bookfags hate the show because it didn't copy the books 1:1
>Marvelfags hate the show because there is no soulless epic battle or orange slices
>Illiterates hate the show because they have to read subtitles
>Normies hate the show because because Japan is too weird for them
>Zoomers hate the show because it's longer than 5 seconds and thats too much time away from their phones
>Contrarians hate the show because it's good
>Boomers hate the show because a 1980 version exists and "Old Good, New Bad" is their slogan
>Animefags hate the show because Toranaga doesn't have an episode long fight with Ishido that takes place mid-air with their katanas clashing a thousand times a second
>Lefties hate the show because a strong black woman doesn't become Shogun
>/pol/ hates the show because it didn't have John become Shogun while turning Japan into his personal harem
>Only the cultured few who wanted to see a story that remained authentic and true to the Japanese culture of the period enjoyed the show.
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>>198619814
>>Catholics hate the show because John Blackthorne hates them
Why would that make us hate it? English hating the Catholics isn't news and I'd like it less if he didn't hate us.
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>>198619814
based and true post
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>>198619814
It's the ultimate filter show. In a couple years /tv/ will be talking about it is a classic they always liked.
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>>198619814
>/pol/ hates the show because it didn't have John become Shogun while turning Japan into his personal harem
This one is disingenuous, they hate the show because the character and guy he was based on was a much bigger part of everything and not completely incompetent outside of using an astrolabe to guide cannons once.
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>>198620354
No one will be talking about this in a couple of weeks let alone years.
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>>198620429
Whatever cope helps you sleep at night.
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>>198619001
mating press material
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>watch shogun
>white actor just mimics Richard Burton
>close my eyes
>listen more carefully
>he’s actually copying Richard Burton
“Cosmo” is a fucking fraud
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>>198620422
The real life William Adams did nothing leading up to Sekigahara, besides Tokugawa using his cannons in the battle. He never met Gracia, and was only made hatamoto five years after the events of the series.
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>>198619001
I surrender
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>>198620509
Still, I’m sure he got to fuck hundreds of Asian babes so worth it.
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>>198618924
New literally me just dropped
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>>198620574
He died a wealthy man in Nagasaki, after 20 years in Japan at the age of 55. I'm sure he was drowning in Japanese pussy until his death
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>>198609596
people still have cable?
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>>198621027
And dude was a nobody before he rocked up in Japan. It can happen to anyone, lads.
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>>198621082
He probably came REAL close to dying on someone's whim like 200 times ever since he arrived.
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>>198619001
>>198619157
>>198620514

Yeah, this one I wouldn't be able to beat. I'd get wrecked.
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>>198621285
imagine getting wrecked by this cheeky brat
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>>198619741
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>>198621230
But he didn’t. Like I said, could happen to anyone. Lads, your 30s/40s may be just as wild.
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>>198621441
Nigga times changed
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>>198613186
Toranaga is a pretty big asshole
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>>198621499
Not for white guys.
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>>198618234
>Bring about peace by killing anyone and everyone close to you.
Toranaga was the villain.
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>>198621617
Si vis pacem, para bellum is older than Toranagamama.
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sho sucked
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>>198607927
>>198608093
>>198608110
>no nudity from Fuji
on one hand, based innocent waifu
on the other hand, my dick needs it
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>>198621647
I'm just annoyed Anjin didn't punch Toranaga too in the last episode when he punches him to make him snap out of it. It would fit if Toranaga at least got one punch in on him and they both laugh it off.
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>>198619001

I love women so much it's unreal
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>>198617076
all rosaries look the same, i took it as him converting to catholicism based on mariko's influence
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>>198621524
He is a japanese Dumbledore
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>>198617554
It's actually unreal how cute she is. It should be illegal.
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>>198621617
He was a friend of Nobunaga, what did you expect
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>>198618351
I need:
- To know their names individually
- To know if they have nude photos
- If yes, post them
- To know if they have ever done porn
- If yes, post code
STAT.
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>>198621907
They only do blacked porn
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>>198621940
Why did you ignore the second part of my question?
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>>198621940
DO NOT REDEEM SIRS
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Let it come.
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>>198619254
That, my friend, looks like a panic attack.
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>>198622068
This hair cut is so rad...
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>>198622068
this dude was unironically my favorite
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>>198622221
Over based Yabu?
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>>198622238
yabushige is the default best so no
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JAVgods... which girl will satisfy my Fuji needs?
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>>198622400
Try the duck
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>>198622428
Not the duck...
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>>198622238
That's Yabushige-sama!
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>>198618234

Crushing all your opposition and consolidating your power over your domain to the point where violent conflict is impossible is unironically how peace has been accomplished throughout the vast majority of history, particularly in Asia.

Just look how many conflicts are heating up in the world after the US installed a senile retard puppeteered by a committee of unaccountable AWFLs, DMV blegpipo, and the most neurotic stratum of Jews who are more concerned with punishing their own constituency than actually governing.

Since there's a lot of crossover with /got/ in these threads, I believe this is ultimately what GRRM intended to explore with Daenerys and ASOIAF in the outline for the series that he will ultimately leave to rot and was botched horribly by the Dabids.
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>>198618617
>tfw love Japanese women
>tfw cursed to only get hard around huge tits
why can't I have a wife like this
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>>198617157
oh i had no idea he was in raised by wolves
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>>198622964
Go to Japan. Japanese women with big tits like white guys.
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>>198615717
Thank you for your input as a gay man
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>>198623345
Really? Well damn, as soon as I finish my doctorate Imma fly out there.
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>every one of toranaga's plans
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>>198622461
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>>198619385

It's been a while but I remember the hatamoto status coming from him saving Toranaga during the earthquake? What did Blackthorne do up until that point to deserve the honor?
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>>198623782
He was given the title of hatamoto in a letter left by Toranaga for Mariko after they first arrived in Anjiro after escaping Osaka. He saved Toranaga's life in Osaka and went diving with him just like in the show and that's why he got it. He got the actual fief, retinue and larger salary after the earthquake.
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>>198617157

It's a shame they probably already locked in Kickass because he'd make a great Bond.

A lot of his scenes with Mariko reminded me of You Only Live Twice.
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>>198623961

Oh yeah. Well, the shitty new tv show still fucked up the earthquake scene by having a bunch of random dudes jump in along with Anjin-san.
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>Wake up
>see this
What do?
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>>198624100
I don't see how it did. Anjin jumped in first, found him by noticing the cloth, and gave Toranaga his swords just like in the book. It's exactly the reasons Toranaga gave him the fief there.
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>>198624201
Oooo, konnichiwa Yabushige-dono! Domo arigato!
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>>198624326
Anyone notice how Japanese people in Shogun all go "Oouhhww!" or make some weird grunting noise to verbally express their shock, whether it's like a slight surprise or big shock, they all go "ooow!" or "ooooh!". Kind of weird, I think.
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>>198624371
>autism
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Do you think Moeka likes blonde-haired, blue-eyed white guys? Do I have a chance?
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>>198624496
Height, weight, dick size.
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>>198624371
they're a very expressive people
benefits of having a soul, unlike other Asians
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>>198624371
In my experience Asians give consistent verbal feedback during conversation. While you're talking they'll mutter "Mmm" and "Ehh" to signal their attention.
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>>198624524
5'11''
170
7.5''
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>>198624570
Face 1 out of 10?
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>>198624590
8/10 at least
I'm pretty handsome
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>>198624649
Then why are you asking? I guess you're just retarded to compensate.
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>>198624202

It was lamely done and had no tension, both the book and the 1980s tv show did it better.
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>>198624671
I have no experience with actual Japanese women
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>>198624673
Wow, the 1980 version might have one thing it did better. Meanwhile I can't even compare the political scenes to the 1980 version since they don't exist, guess the 2024 version wins by default.
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>>198624538
Their conduct during the war gives a lie to that notion.
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>>198624762
How would you treat zogbots?
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>>198624762
All that stuff they did is as human as it gets.
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>>198608219
tummy kisses for fuji-sama!
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>>198624754

Except the modern version fucks up the politics by making it all about grrl powah!
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>>198624878
The Chinese, Malays and Filipinos, all famous Zogbots.
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>>198608219
>>198625003
Imagine how much shit she is packing in there...
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>>198625069
No it doesn't. Mariko fighting off guys in the forest and then "fighting" off guards to try to leave Osaka is all from the book.
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>>198617324
Agreed. This little yellow whore needs to be PAINTED!!!FACT!!!
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Shogun could have used a similar scene
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>>198625108
girls don't poop silly anon
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Even in her final scene Ochiba couldn't resist doing her dumb little I'M ACTING smirk when it made no sense. Anjinsama, Yabushige and Fujisan hard carried this show.
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>>198625358
you'd smirk too if you were literally sex
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>>198625247
holy, souce
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>>198618479
Everybody post their death haiku and then close /sho/ forever
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>>198625458
How can white women compete?
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>>198625513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3C2BsFSFzc
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>>198625613
Honestly, they give you white kids. That's it. That's all they have going for them at this point.
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>>198625613
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>>198625134
>all from the book.

No it isn't. Mariko doesn't fight anybody during the escape from Osaka and later when Ishido tries to prevent her from leaving, she ineffectually waves a sword around for a bit before giving up, nor does she kill any ninjas in the final attack. I'll further add that all of these scenes were better done in the 1980 tv show.

The dumb new tv show turned her into a politically correct 98lb Girl Boss slaughtering samurai left and right.
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>>198625704
>98lb Girl Boss slaughtering samurai left and right
except she didn't kill anyone and was exhausted after 30 seconds of fighting men
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>>198625704
She kills no one in that scene and all the men don't attack because they were ordered not to. She falls over 20 seconds in. Did you even watch it or were you just annoyed they actually kept her trying to leave Osaka in from the book while the 1980 version cut it?
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>>198625704
and the book is factually wrong in a bunch of things
grow up, incel
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>>198625747
NTA, but before that she killed bunch of samurai with her naginata during night attack when they left Osaka.
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>>198607927
So when are they releasing the finale?
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>>198625520

Queer custodian
Friday night, erases slurs
No compensation
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>>198607927
>wypipo so disgusting and retarded compared to japanesu ubermensch: the show
>THEY LITERALLY EAT ROTTEN MEAT DON'T YOU KNOW
sad
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>>198625803
they were bandits, but yes, she shouldn't have realistically been able to kill any trained man in combat
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>>198625704
Based speedwatcher
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>>198625935
In the show they weren't bandits, they were samurai of the catholic lord.
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>>198625782
>She kills no one in that scene

She killed at least one of Ishido's men in that scene and easily half a dozen in the escape from Osaka, because she's a stronk womyn samurai who don't need no gaijin.

>>198625783

Illiteracy is a terrible thing.
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For me? It was when Lady Ochiba dressed as a sexy bunny and seduced Anjin-sama.
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>>198626036
>because she's a stronk womyn samurai who don't need no gaijin.

Oh, and she kung-fued at least one ninja to death in the final scene.
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>>198626036
Did you not see the flashback where she proved herself to be a master with the naginata? I doubt you could fight her.
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So just finished this. Holy shit is it melodramatic.
It really insists upon itself.
Also Toradoranaga playing 5D chess got pretty old halfway in.
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>>198626154
>insists upon itself.
kek every time I read this I can't not imagine the biggest retarded whale typing it
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>>198626194
Found the guy who failed the apple test.
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>>198626047
...and then she sang "mausu, mausu pasokon mausu, kokunai seisan shite mausu". I remember like it was yesterday.
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>>198626036
She killed two bandits in the escape from Osaka, none in that scene, and two ninja while John killed all the rest. So a grand total of four people killed across the entire series technically five since she killed herself :^) I get you wanted more than anything to hate this series but to make up nonsense because Mariko rightfully has screentime and fights a few guys like she does in the book just outs you as a secondary.
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>>198625520
White women outside
Warm room waifu and tendies
Kino on the screen
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>>198626154
Especially considering that the last episode turned into one giant Mariko in memoriam. The entirety of the political conflict boiled down to Ochiba having a woman moment over her bestie getting killed due to her own choices. Toranaga came off as a passive observer with his entire keikaku hinging on Ochiba acting contrary to her own interests and nothing would have been possible anyway if his son didn't get himself killed. Absolute wet fart of a show. Turned exactly into what I feared when I learned it is written by jap-american women - womeme melodrama about BWC.
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>>198626254
Can you hook me up with any girls? I'll take single moms too.
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I'd like to see that Thai ladyboy try and fight ashigaruchads in yari wall.
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>>198626325
You can do better mate.
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>>198626335
I'm sure it would be a shamefur dispray
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>>198626254
Have fun I just moved back to the U.S. after living there for 6 years
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>>198626240
I'm going to knock up a Japanese woman and create more cute and fair-skinned Japanese-SEA kids.
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>>198626353
NO. You are not my mom.
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>>198626374
nigga, Japanese women aren't SEA monkeys. They're honorary aryan.
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>>198626416
Truly Hitler recognized their capability for genocide.
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>>198626434
Hitler approves of giving Nihon females the BWC
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>>198626369
I recently spent about half a year there but have been gone for the last three months. My favorite brat asked me yesterday if I was coming back this sprin, so I have going to be having a lot of fun again.
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>>198626451
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>>198626607
Nice, which part?
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>>198626416
I'm the SEA part of the equation, but I pass for East Asian/Japanese when I'm there.
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How long until the normies forget this show ever even existed? One months? Three months?
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If I like this show am I a weeb?
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>>198626721
You just have yellow fever.
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>>198626708
So fucking ugly, holy shit
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>>198626661
I'd say about 80% of my time was in Osaka, and the rest was split between Tokyo and Sapporo with a couple of days in Hiroshima and Hakodate. Where did you live?
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>people who like women are secretly gay!
Does the seethe never end?
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>>198626864
>people who like ugly women are secretly gay!
Exactly.
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>>198626838
Nice nice. I lived in Osaka about a 10 minute walk away from pic related. Kansai is my favorite place for sure
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>16 hour thread
I think we still have one more in us, what do you say boys?
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>>198626838
>>198626325
Fine fag don't help a brother out. I hope karma gets back to you.
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>/tv/ generals die days after their show ends
Pathetic, /a/ drags theirs out for years.
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>>198626036
You couldn't beat her.
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>>198627063
Based. Osaka is my favorite and where I made the most friends and had the most fun. I'm considering living there in the near future depending on how some work stuff plays out. I do qualify for their new J-Skip visa, but letting go of what I've built upcareer-wise and moving overseas is a bit daunting.
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Is Shogun the most based show to come out in the recent years?

>No faggots
>No niggers
>Based Sengoku era Japan
>Tons of Japanese waifus
>White man bleaches the best waifu and has another one wanting him towards the end.
>Amazing violence

How did it manage to escape the jew's meddling?
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>>198627691
The jews fear the samurai.
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>>198626116
>she proved herself to be a master with the naginata

Like I said...

>>198626246
>fights a few guys like she does in the book

Again; the _only time_ Mariko fights anybody, is during her attempted march out of Osaka, where she waves a sword about for a bit and is easily kept at bay by Ishido's men. A scene that is FAR better in the book as well as in the 1980 show.

You 2024 showfags are desperate to justify your investment in watching you purposely ignore the shitty and unnessasry changes to the story to promote feminist bullshit and shit on White men. Look,I don't hate the new show, I've even recommended it to friends but I'm not going to suck Hollywood dick and pretend it couldn't have been easily done much better.

Another example; Mario's seppuku attempt, where in the book (and the 1980 show) it's a hugely important plot point and all the nobles of Osaka come out to witness it, forcing Ishido to grant her leave of the city. The dumb new show does it in some meaningless back room and has dufus NPC Anjin-san step up to act as her second, even though there's one of Toranaga's men literally right there in the room with her.
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>>198626721
>he said, on www.4chan.org
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>>198627860
>>198627860

Enjoy what's probably the last general, get your haikus in.
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>>198627810
Mariko picks up a naginata in the battle while escaping from Osaka in the book, just like in the show. John even questions her on this, and she directly says "many samurai families train their daughters to fight to protect the husband, homes and lord." Once again I have to question how long ago you read the book. Also, shut the fuck up, changing Yabu to John as her second was a great tweak.
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>>198627556
Yeah I feel you for sure. I just feel too old for it now. It’s a blast when you’re in your twenties but nothing is more embarrassing than seeing 40 year old expats still drinking at HUB and clubs trying to relive those good years



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