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Are they a must for your Kino station?
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>>198616016
sure, modern ones use wifi and lossless audio.
they dont sound great, but their surround sound is good.
you are better off getting some KRKs or HS6, and some mid rear channel speakers.
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waste of money
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>>198616016
a stereo soundbar should be considered a required expense when buying a new TV just as a basic step up from built-in speakers
but a 5.1 soundbar set up from Costco will legitimately cover the bases for 90% of the general public - meaning a soundbar that has a Center and front L+R speakers integrated, and syncs wirelessly with a subwoofer that has rear L+R speakers hooked to it
I have a Vizio 5.1 soundbar system I bought refurbed off eBay. The bar is mounted to the bottom of the TV and the rear speakers are on poles behind both corners of my sofa. Having it on their "movie" preset which boosts the center channel while keeping surround works great for almost every movie, and having the "mirror" preset on which mirrors the front L+R channels to the rear L+R channels for non-surround content works great for regular TV and live sports
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>>198616170
>modern ones use wifi
that's not a good selling point...
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>>198616218
What setting is good for video games?
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>>198616016
They are a cheap way for normies who don’t have the brains or the cash to get a proper stereo to pretend that they have “surround sound”
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>>198616280
ok boomer
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>>198616016
last girl I brought over to my place noticed I did not have a soundbar, literally asked
>no soundbar?
this was on our second date, and there never was a third. so there's that.
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>>198616203
why
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>>198616340
This happened inside your mind broken head didn’t it?
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>>198616218
>wireless
ngmi
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>>198616016
Built in speakers are terrible. If you have a small space a soundbar is a good idea (versus surround sound.) Make sure you get a model that supports HDMI ARC and don't cheap out. I tried a Vizio and had to return it.
I bought a soundbar at a discount from an open box seller. I forget its name though.
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>>198616016
I've been thinking about it. I've got a surround system with a bass box and it's pretty good. But the wires are always a hassle and difficult to get around.

My buddy's soundbar has a pretty good woofer and sound quality. It's not a bad option for poorfags who want better sound quality. The ideal of course would be to have a home theater. But choices have to be made and I don't think a soundbar is a bad option.
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>>198616016
if your only other option is the tv itself then ok, that's as far as this shit goes.
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>>198616253
there's a full GAME preset but to be honest I don't game enough from the couch to know how it is. Been thinking about screen mirroring to the TV one of these days, might have to dick with it this weekend.
>>198616376
for 90% of the public it's more than enough. I didn't want to dick with wires running across the floor so having a set up where the rear speakers have wires that hide behind the couch and hook to the sub which then talks to the soundbar wirelessly across the room was very appealing.
>>198616395
Vizio V51-H6 is the set up I have, bog standard stuff you can find at Costco but having no wires running across the floor was perfect for me. My space is too small to dick with runners or cable management along base boards.
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>>198616016
Get two, one on each side, for a fake surround sound that is actually just as good as normal surround sound
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>>198616395
>But the wires are always a hassle and difficult to get around.
If your system is set up why are you worried about wires? Unless you literally have wired it so the wires are in your way, surely though, you could not be that retarded
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>>198616366
no she literally wanted to hook her iphone into it (if I had one) via bluetooth.
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test
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If you want a basic decent kino station then get at least a 3.1 sound system (two stereo speakers, one center channel, one sub). Bravo, you automatically have a better setup than 99% of people without even going full surround sound. No more "why dialogue so low explosions so loud" problems.

Yes soundbars are better than integrated TV speakers, but in most cases it's still just shitty chink garbage. Almost like playing a movie through a bluetooth speaker and pretending it's good because it's louder than your TV speakers.
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Soundbars /center channels are lame-o. Just go back to mono recording/speakers so you can actually hear dailog again.
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>>198616547
>If your system is set up
It's not. I have to get it out and put the boxes in place every time I want to watch a movie. I have them labelled: LB,LR, FL, FR, FC.

I haven't integrated them into my house. So I have to get them out and put them back again each time. Like getting out a console with videogames and having to put them away after you're done playing. So that's one of the reasons I'm thinking about a soundbar. This is 2024, I shouldn't be hassled with wires anymore.
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Pic rel works just fine, don't tell me you guys aren't watching your kino alone.
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>>198616668
i'm not doing this and getting your gamer dent.
nice try and some people might get fooled. not me though.
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>>198616664
ah, ok. so you're acoustic and guitarded. just do like the anon says and get a 5.1 soundbar kit from a big-box store
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A while back I got an inexpensive (but not cheapskate) 3.1 soundbar and it's probably the most cost efficient meaningful upgrade around since TV audio is 100% unacceptable

Maybe it's only a 6.5/10 solution, but 6.5 is better than 1/10, and I don't have the space/money/inclination to put together a 10/10 true 5.1 setup
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>>198616668
Why risk hearing damage when I could be surrounded by sound instead?
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>>198616016
i wouldnt waste my money. just get the poorfag kino starter pack. you wont need more trust me
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>>198616664
That's sounds like a huge fucking hassle, i hate setting up audio gear.

get a soundbar or better just 2 good fronts and solid subwoofer. Surround is mostly useless bullshit, especially if it is set up haphazardly like you are doing it.
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>>198616720
I've been using these for over 4 years now almost exclusively, no dent whatsoever. Maybe your cranial bones didn't develop properly.
>>198616867
Just don't blast the audio at unsafe levels. Even with very dynamic audio track it's still fine and the loudest parts aren't too loud. You need downmixing for that though.
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>>198616016
A nice home theater receiver and hi-fi speakers will do you much better, last forever, and are great for music too.
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>>198616588
I have 5.1 and dialog is still too low most of the time without tweaks
a receiver doesn't magically fix shit sound design
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My setup is;

>Sonos Beam Gen 2 (down from the arc, as the Beam somehow just sounds better and fuller)
>2x Sonos One's SL for rears
>Sub Mini

All in all I'm very happy with it, the clarity, seperate between lows mids and highs, and the overal sound is very good.
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even the most basic soundbar is an upgrade from the internal speakers. I got my parents the roku streambar pro for like 200 ish bucks and it's a night and day difference. Especially with voices, a lot of tv shows have the music mixed so poorly you can barely hear what someone is saying.
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>>198617114
I have the Sonos model before the Beam came out with the full-sized sub, and it actually sounds good. The sub has a surprising amount of bass and weighs a fucking ton
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>>198617049
it's a meme, wife always wants it turned down.
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>>198617197
Yeah I'm really happy with my sub mini, it's very deep but not a cheap, rattly kind of bass so many other brands of sub has. It's just a nice, clean, deep sound.
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>>198617171
We have a full-wall projector with built in speakers and i got the walmart onn brand speaker bar trying to improve audio. it is a little clearer but it's actually much quieter so it's useless for what I wanted. I use it to watch movies or games on the pc instead and it's nice.
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>>198616016
Bought a 50 inch VA + 2.1 Soundbar in 2019. Really good for a lonecel.
I'd burn 2-3 OLEDs if I started buying them in 2019. Now they look ready for mass use.
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>>198617359
I've had an LG C8 since 2019 and it's completely fine. I have a C1 that is use for a third monitor for gaming and zero burn-in as well. Pretty sure LG's burn-in issue was solved on any model past B6.
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>>198617466
Damn, that's good
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do you guys have soundproof apartments?
serious question.
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They are a cope for those who dont wanna drop 5 grand on a hifi setup
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>>198617010
How do you know when the volume level is unsafe?
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>>198617523
They all live in the same orphanage.
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>>198617569
What?
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>>198617614
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>>198617523
Majority of anons live alone in houses
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>>198617676
I see, don't the neighbors complain?
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>>198617530
Only Dan Bilzerians need that. You're a 4channer with no friends, nigga.
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>>198617530
>spends 5k
>doesn't address the install/room setup
>this sounds really good r-right anon?
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>>198617523
I don't but I don't like my neighbors anyway

But the main thing is, I don't go full room rattling tier audio outside of special occasions and only when it's a time of day where nobody could pull some bullshit sound complaint on me
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>>198617523
used to live in a super solid steel and brick apt tower and crank my speakers and woofer up and no one could hear it outside my apt. It was built either in the 50s or 70s, i forget, but I loved it. My other apartment was more upscale but it was shit construction and my downstairs neighbor could hear everything so I had to wear headphones, he said he could hear those too, fucking cunt
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>>198617569
I know the decibel outpout of the headphones and mostly leave my DAC/AMP at -10db. And how is it any different from blasting your speakers, this can damage your ears as well.
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Just get a cheap second hand 5.1 system on ebay/facebook marketplace. You can literally just frankenstein them together piece by piece if you want to. Buy the receiver first, buy speakers that are equal to or higher than the receiver's Ω impedance. Doesnt matter if they're old. Speakers arent like TVs that get increasingly better as time goes on. Audio technology is basically the same now as it was in 1980. So you could buy some vintage speakers from 90s/2000s and as long as they arent moldy or destroyed they will sound fine.

It will sound better and be cheaper than a soundbar.
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>>198617965
The pressure exerted on your ear drums by headphones can be more than from household level speakers, especially earbuds
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>>198617979
Exactly. You could do a really solid setup for about a grand, and have 8k, atmos, 7 speaker surround, etc. You'd also have bigger, more dynamic front speakers that would play music well.
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>>198617965
Headphones are way closer to your ear than a speaker is.
If a speaker can damage your hearing, imagine what a speaker inside your ear will do.
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>>198617520
The burn-in meme was on 2017 or prior models. If you're considering one, it's worth the membership price to buy one through Costco. I think my C1 has a 5 year burn in warranty or something retarded like that. I've even got an old VT60 Panny plasma that still going strong 14 years later.
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Samsung Q800b literally changed my life. One of the best purchases I've made in a long time, that boasts gaming and movies effortlessly. I can only connect it wirelessly to my audio-technica turn table which was an added bonus.
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>>198618292
*also
not only
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>>198618171
you could have a better setup than a soundbar for under $100 including the receiver. Even two vintage bookshelf speakers, a centre channel and a sub are better than a soundbar.
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>>198618000
What pressure? The DT880 have an open back.
>>198618204
db is the same, doesn't matter where it comes from. I do agree that it's way easier to damage your hearing with headphones because most people won't turn up their speakers as loud because of their environment but you can turn the volume way down on headphones and still have a great experience.
The only time I blast my headphones full volume is when I listen to stuff like piano music, everything else can be turned way down. And once again I've been using those headphones for over 4 years now daily, sometimes for over 10 hours and while I haven't had a checkup for my hearing in a while I haven't noticed it degrading at all i.e. not understanding people around me or stuff like that.
I still can't sleep when my TV is on standby 10 meters away from me because I can hear the shitty PSU chirping and I bet most people wouldn't even notice that.
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>>198616952
I'm actually debating that thing. How do you like it?

Yeah you need to do something most of the time. Even say my pic is a huge improvement over TV speakers. I gave them to my brother, his Roku TCL TV was intolerable to me. How do people watch TV like that. Or maybe it's once you start going decent you can't go back.

Now my LG OLED I think actually sounds okay with the TV speakers. But I have this thing that came with it that's awesome. I'll post that next.
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>>198617708
>Ummm it’s calibrated to be perfect if you sit in the middle of the sofa, if you move a few cms away it desyncs
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>>198618357
Buy a secent setup. These cheap logitech 5.1 systems are garbage. I'm not even an audiophile autist, but they do just sound terrible, no dynamics or clarity what so ever.
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>>198618337
>I do agree that it's way easier to damage your hearing with headphones
Good, that's what both posts were saying you argumentative cunt
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>>198618411
that isn't a sofa, it's a loveseat
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>>198618450
*decent
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>>198618463
And tonight I’m feelin romantical
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>>198618337
>What pressure? The DT880 have an open back.
Open-back earphones create zero pressure? Then where does the sound come from?
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>>198616952
>>198618357
These things sound so shitty. Their main selling point is a subwoofer which can rattle the dishes in your kitchen, but in every other aspect they sound godawful. You're better off buying cheap Sony monitors and a tripath amp.
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>>198618459
>>198618511
It's still user error if you damage your hearing, not the fault of the audio device you're using. And yeah I'm an argumentative cunt.
I just love headphones because you can get an amazing listening experience for $100-200 while you have to spent a shitload of money on decent speakers assuming you even have a perfect room layout.
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>>198618357
This is the Logitech Z4.

But okay I have this LG Eclair. It's 3.1.2 yeah sure it's not the real deal but I think it sounds awesome. Watching movies on drugs yeah the cinema mode is awesome. I did turn off Atmos, maybe I'll try it again, sounds weird to me but with a new movie mixed and mastered that way it would be better. (Audio and video I really think you're better trying to match as much as possible vs have devices do upgrades or approximations).

Idk, how do they toss in speakers with a TV that's already on sale. How much is the shit really worth.
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>>198618607
Okay, fair enough. I like a good pair of headphones too, but my preferred setup would be a 2.1 system with a great subwoofer
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>>198616016
if you're poor, sure.
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>>198618450
>>198618559
Damn really. I mean I know it's not top of the line but I'm Z4 guy and those seem good for games and movies so I'm figuring good middle of road brand. I guess it is model or even brands go down hill.
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My parents have one and it's always disconnecting and the audio lags. They're a meme for dumb boomers
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>>198618755
tell them to look for the secret button presses/holds to disable the energy saver. yes, it's a real thing.
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>>198618755
Bad cheap soundbars are bad. Does not mean all soundbars are bad.
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>>198618755
its probably not plugged by Arc lol poor boomers
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I prefer wireless noise cancelling headphones
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>>198618737
show your setup.
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>>198617708
I spent about 8k, still have a bit to go.
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>>198618809
i'm not cooking my ears off with something like that and those fake leather ear things
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>>198618885
>dual mammoth subwoofers
Nice
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>>198618885
please tell me you have a curtain for that window
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>>198618885
>subwoofers
Ruins every movie
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>>198618742
You'll get loud sounds and rumble bass, sure. But compared to a modest bookshelf speaker setup or even leftover car stereo speakers, music can sound completely different because the frequency response and dynamics on logitechs are really poor. If you can get a used set for cheap (like $25) then it's better than nothing. Anything more is a waste of money IMO.
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Bros, should I get this ($50) for my TV? Or...
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>>198616016
I have a cheap as fuck 5.1 yamaha reciever with second hand yamaha 5.1 speakers i found online.
I have this for 6 years now, all for less then 500eurodollars, meanwhile my brother has spend thousands on sonos speakers all over his living room, and it sounds like shit compared to my setup.
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>>198619137
..this ($100)? It's Creative T20 in the first pic and presonus eres 3.5 second pic.
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>>198619137
If you want stereo budget speakers, get Edifiers. They are generally decent all round. I have them before I upgraded to a full on Sonos home theatre setup.
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>>198618984
it's a basement so it's usually dark all the time, it's more of a "fire escape window" with a well. I might get a projector in the future, so it will be completely covered.
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>>198619186
Lmao no, an old yamaha system does not sound better than a sonos system. stop lying.
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>>198619137
is there a remote control version?
>>198619229
ahh nice
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>>198619011
your laptop speakers are loud enough, am I right?
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>>198619234
>yeah this little sonos speaker totaly has a better bass sound then a actual speaker setup.
Get real.
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>>198619011
You gay son?
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>>198619234
it probably does, they can push more wattage through a receiver and wire than some gay as proprietary wireless shit.
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>>198619287
not him but the only reason to ever switch on a woofer is if there is gunfire/explosions or absolute muscle car exhaust systems in the kino.
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>>198619280
Even the Sonos Sub Mini is excellent, let alone the bigger version. It has clean, deep bass. That's all that's needed. Who needs a 1000W sub in an enclosed space?
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are soundbars good for music on tv?
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>>198618809
For me it's Sennheiser
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>>198619375
monika
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>>198619303
It's not so much the wattage, it's a class D amp vs class AB.
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>>198619337
You a bot or a sonos salesman?
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I remember when my brother first got surround sound for our TV and cd player. We played puff daddy's "come with me" from the then new godzilla movie and it gave me chills. Proper surround sound is fucking crazy.

It's like when I got glasses for the first time when I was 18. It was absolutely mind blowing seeing the world for the first time. I just stared at my GFs hair for like an hour in amazement.
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>>198616016
A soundbar is a must. I recommend one with a big, punchy subwoofer like mine. I don't have any neighbors, so I can crank my shit UP.
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>>198618885
So you had to skimp on the carpet?
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>pic related
>better than LG (cheap shit), Samsung (constant connectivity issues), Sennheiser (too much mids), JBL (boxy sounding)
>engrages the amplifier, reciever, scruffy cables everywhere autists
>trueplay technology to calibrate sound depending on your setup
>Clean sound, good clarity in lows, mids and highs, with very good bass when needed, doesn't sound 'mushy'

Yeah, I'm thinking this is the best setup I've had. And I've had a lot.
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>>198618885
>two single seats.
>not just one big couch so you can lay down and chill
Bad decision.
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Lol at the sonos shill.
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>>198619462
not him but wood floors are absolute comfy, nice pair of sheepskin moccasins for ultra comfy
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>>198616218
>5.1 soundbar set up from Costco
Better off with a 2ch receiver.
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>>198616340
Soundbar? HAHAHA, finish your drink honey.
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>>198619759
I can tell you (and not just you but others itt are new to girls) as soon as a girl sees you spent more on something else that isn't for her, she makes you get rid of it.
t married a few times
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>>198619525
It's 4 actually and they recline fully
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>>198618885
Nice, what amps are you running?
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>>198616352
They sound like shit. I bought one and returned it the next day. Zero improvement over the TV built in speakers.
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>>198620036
which one did you buy? im currently debating buying one
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>>198618785
All soundbars are bad, though.
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>>198619384
that's cute, my receiver and class d amp still shits all over Sonos.
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>>198616825
Can you link or give me the name of the soundbar you bought? I'm trying to get my mom off of her TV speakers but obviously I'm not going to make her get some autistic system set up.
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>>198620080
when did it ship?
did you really post an image of something you don't own?
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>>198618885
is this the movie Brazil? also are you Indian?
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>>198619186
I paid $5.00 for my 7.1 Yamaha at the thrift shop. No HDMI though, I have to get old disc players with the optical out.
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>>198619992
don't have one yet, still looking at the options, Dirac Live + Bass control does a decent job in the interim.
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>>198620113
I'm at work, so clearly I'm posting a screenshot. I've had for 6 months and it took about a month to ship
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Samsung 3.1Ch Wireless Soundbar with Dolby Digital/DTS Virtual:X In Built Subwoofer Bluetooth Connectivity - HW-B650/ZN

is this one any good
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>>198620209
lol
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>>198618337
>PSU chirping
What's that?
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>>198620220
No. Any soundbar that claims to have 'built in sub' the whole thing will just sound shit and mushy when any action happens. Also DTS:X or Atmos in a soundbar without upfiring speakers is a meme (and even that is a bit of a meme).

Just get a Beam. Then you can add to it overtime.
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>>198620419
>upfiring
in english, doc
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>>198618785
That doesn't help when there's no way to know which ones are bad and which are good because every fuck is going to shill their favorite manufacturer and say "werx 4 me lololool"
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>>198618559
shitty compared to what? more expensive speakers? show me a better sounding 5.1 system for 200 euros on sale. i will wait
>muh rattling dishes
lmao
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>>198620481
The thing with speakers is that your room layout has to fit them as well. $5000 speakers may sound mediocre if your room has shit acoustics.
Best way to know if something really fits your needs is buying different speakers, trying them out and sending the ones back that are shit with your setup.
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To each their own.
I'll stick to my big dumb Latvia SSR speakers because it's FUN
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>>198620419
upfiring Atmos is a meme in itself
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>>198620534
the sub will massage your chest and let you feel those deep rumbles through your sofa or couch and thats on half gain. when you crank this system up your living room will turn into a theater obviosly depending on the sound design of the movie itself
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>>198618285
Costco warranty doesn't cover burn in. Best Buy's does but you have to pay for the warranty.
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>>198620036
>Zero improvement over the TV built in speakers
this is bullshit
you're a liar and a faggot
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>>198620596
i had high end systems in the past costing thousands of euros with big wooden standing speakers but i dont think i can recommend someone spending 2000-3000 euros because at the end of the day audiophiles are just mentally ill consoomers
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>>198618885
get a bigger tv
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>>198620147
Not really a problem because all tv's these days have more then enough HDMI ports.
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>>198620635
Someone’s mad their youngest daughter got abducted by ghosts through the closet, ;)
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>>198620534
>5.1
literally a meme
5.1 was designed for theaters which seat over a hundred people. Your tiny studio apartment does not need this. Logitech systems are essentially $5 speakers with a shaker woofer hooked up to a low quality amp.
>wow I can hear background noises behind me on my 5.1
a good stereo setup accomplishes the same thing. You only have two ears. You only need 2 speakers.
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>>198616395
Lol I read buddy as hubby
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>>198620675
It's 77 inches. Looking at getting a projector or if OLED 100" TV's ever become affordable.
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>>198620932
it scales you dumb nigger, a theater has their surrounds split 5 ways each channel because of the amount of rows.
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>>198621028
and when they use pic rel?
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>>198621028
I didn't realize you had a full theater row in front of your tv.
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>>198621084
>YIFY
based
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>>198616016
only for brokefag, ghetto apartment dwellers and congested, brokefag wanabe suburb villagers who when they reach out their window can reach their neighbor's window LMAO

me on the other hand have a based yamaha receiver, polk subwoofer and two vintage 12" cerwin vega floor speakers contained in red maplewood boxes that also come with fuses. i can crank that shit almost all the way up and my neighbors can barely hear shit
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>>198616668
this but hurr durr 600s
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>>198621853
>i can crank that shit almost all the way up and my neighbors can barely hear shit
So they're either deaf or your speakers are as loud as the one from a shitphone? kekerino
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>>198621853
>us audio mart
this story isn't real
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>>198616668
We are watching alone. With nobody else around
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>>198621899
Also a great choice.
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>>198621903
lol it must be true. i live right between two boomer couples and they never complain about me. i'm practically living the dream until they die and 10 cars full of retarded PRIME-drinkiing zoomers move in to rent those houses out
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>>198622500
I hear Prime contains illegal amounts of forever chemicals .
Maybe they'll be dead soon?
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Sound bars are obsolete. I tried one and while it was a marked improvement over my TV's default speakers, the AI audio setting for my TV was better than the sound bar.
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>>198616313
>>198616280 is right. How can one speaker give you genuine surround sound?
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>>198622815
AI
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Are vintage/old/used speakers a good idea? I have a pair old kenwoods sitting in my garage with red and black wires coming out. I'd like to put together a decent stereo and surround sound system in my living room soon. Tips?
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>>198622891
>AI
But it still doesn't place speakers behind or above you. It's not real surround.
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>>198623013
Depending on the quality and condition, some older speakers still compete with modern speakers. Most of the improvements around speakers are in materials and construction (a newer speaker can be made cheaper and last longer for ex), but the core principles around reproducing audio are still the same.
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>>198623319
>it still doesn't place speakers behind or above you
This may be surprising, but you don't have an ear on the back of your head. There is an area called a soundstage which is the optimal calibrated position for listening to a speaker. All a surround setup does is make the soundstage larger.
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>>198623514
I'm still nog changing my 5.1 setup for one soundbar.
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>>198623514
no one is going to buy your faggy soundbar
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>>198616016
>He doesn't have a 5.2.1 Atmos set-up in 2024.
Why even live?
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>>198624886
normies don't know what they are missing
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>>198623921
>>198624012
I don't have a soundbar, I use a traditional stereo setup with tower speakers. Your 5.1 is still a gimmick.
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>>198625828
poorfag cope
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>>198618885
Is that a window or a picture frame hideously off centre above the TV and when the fuck are you going to sort your life out and address it?
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I like my old 5.1 with wires and I ain’t changing it.
You could probably get that n eBay for $100 or less.
Fuck Wi-Fi soundbars.
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>>198619494
Posts all this gay shit
Doesn't give a link or name
Moron
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Pro
>sounds far superior to the tinny TV speakers
>I can Bluetooth music to it from my phone
>I can turn in-game music off for vidya, keep SFX on, play game audio through TV, play actual good music through soundbar for a curated experience
Con
>My 1 year old is obsessed with grabbing at the soundbar and constantly touches the controls on top. I don't have anywhere out of reach to put it.
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>>198618809

I felt the same when I lived in an apartment or lived with roommates. I didn't want to bother other people with my loud-ass TV.

Now that I have a house I don't care.
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>>198627103
It's a basement window well, take your meds.
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>>198616016
TVs can never be kino.
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Soundbars are an improvement over tv speakers, but better to just get a good stereo setup. People like soundbars because they are easy and less intrusive. Many valid reasons to settle for a soundbar.
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>>198616016
No. Just use real speakers n' woofers. It's not hard.
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>>198616016
My wife has been fucking our neighbor behind my back for over two years now. When I found out, she told be that it's because I can only afford a sound bar but our neighbor has "big boy" speakers.
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>>198618885
>>198618984

a big black set of curtains over that entire ugly ass wall would really set that thing off
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I just mismatched a logitech sub with a pair of pose companions as tweeters

it honestly sounds pretty great and I probably spent $60 total
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>>198629195
*bose
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Samsung makes such shitty soundbars just stay away from those t. random anon on the internet with shitty soundbar
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>>198618885
watch out for getting a case of audiophilia. You’ll have that carpet crawling with cable snakes in no time
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>>198629472
I am not an audiophile. I've been accused of it, and I've been to arbitration and I've paid a large settlement.
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>>198618885
Nice. Can you fuck my wife while I film it? It seems like you have enough floorspace.
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>>198628735
she has a valid point
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>>198620582
Atmos is a fucking meme. The only time it was good was in mission impossible fallout and van helsing cause those are the only movies that have extended sequences of people flying
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>>198629625
also downpours in blade runner films
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>>198616016
I just use my TV speakers
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>>198616016
I don’t know anything about audio but these always seemed to be targeted at retards.
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>>198616668
I'm not trying to develop tinnitus
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>>198629666
all in one solutions usually are
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>>198629646
Rather tinny though, Cletus.
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Doesn't matter what you do because sound mixing is so ass.
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>>198628038
I did, they don't work which is why I'm here with you, now sort that shit out anon
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>>198620036
Your ears are fucked.
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>>198619678
costco sells macbooks, faggot. go buy one.
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>>198616016
If you're too stupid to know how to set up speakers, sure.
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If you're not watching your kino on a 2010 laptop you're not doing it right
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>>198616016
I make my own custom audio track for any film I really care about. I scrub out all the dialogue and then print out scripts. I hire 3-4 hookers and make them act out the movie for me while the rest of the audio plays from a bluetooth speaker taped to my neck.
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They're a good compromise if you don't have a lot of space. Especially ones that consolidate multiple functions like the Roku Streambar Pro™. If you're passionate about sound you should have proper center + L/R speakers minimum. No low profile shit.

>>198630331
Because you're an out of touch boomer trying to downmix surround to stereo without a measurement pass, and of course it comes out like shit. Sound on new content is ternary plus gimmick rear and upper channels that almost nothing uses.
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>>198617676
yeah, just like Norman Bates
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>>198616170
>HS6
fpbp
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>>198618885
>audio cables allowed to touch the floor
ooof
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>>198619759
keked
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>>198616218
Recommend a good, relatively inexpensive 5.1 system from costco that isn't vizio.
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>>198616016
So, before you used to get separate speakers that go on the left and right of your tv/music station... now they've just combined it into one. Is that the gist
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>>198632570
yeah, so there's like less speakers to deal with, man, you know like half as many
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>>198632022
I don't have 30k for the cable stands
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>>198631336
>audio autist shilling in every thread about this

Nobody is "downmixing" anything, people just want to be able to turn on the TV and hear the dialogue, which was not a problem for 70 years but is now. The audio output from streaming services should be for the average consumer.
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>>198633351
You're quite literally downmixing 3 channels into 2 and splitting the center voice channel between them, which is why it's so awful. If you don't understand how surround downmixing works and do it yourself, it's not going to come out the way you want.
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>>198616016
Having a soundbar always means you're retarded and usually means you're poor.
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>>198616016
Soundbars are garbage. Only in demand because flat screen tvs don't have good sound. Don't get one unless you live in a small apartment. It's basically a phone speaker but louder.
Ideally, get a home theater system. Bigger the better
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>>198616668
What if I want to lie down while I watch tv? Headphones just aren't comfortable to wear for a long time.
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>>198619137
I bought these like 7 years ago. Very decent quality and loudness for the price as I was a a poor student at the time. Still works perfect after having seen heavy use all that time, dropped them a few times moving too. I use them on my PC though, don't own a TV.
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>>198627247
>Sonos Immersive Set with Beam

just reverse search the image anon
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>>198616016
if you don't have at least a 5.1 setup you don't actually like movies

a soundbar is the bare fucking minimum, if you watch on TV speakers kys
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>>198634089
>normie neighbors upstairs are having a Taylor Swift listen party
>Don't want to listen to that shit
>Put on DUNC2 and crank the sound all the way up
>My 5.1 speakers and huge subwoofer makes the entire building shake as Paul mounts shaihulud
>they turn off the music

Am I based or what?
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>>198616313
They aren't wrong shithead.
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>>198635149
you're talking to a board that plugs their laptops into a decade old LCD tv or watches movies in a gayming chair.
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>>198635200
You're a white traitor scum
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What's the best setup under $1000 where I don't have to run a bunch of fucking wire
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>>198618885
There's so much wrong with this setup that I'm not going to bother.
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>>198636164
You could probably just get by with a Vizio M-Series (5.1 or 5.1.2) for like $400.
Could always max out the $1k budget but for me I figure depreciating returns.
Might as well put $600 to maybe something like a really comfy recliner for the kinostation.
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>>198636164
You man up and buy a proper receiver and some bookshelves. Skip Atmos and DTS:X if you're not putting 4 speakers on the ceiling.
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>>198636584
by all means, George Lucas, go on. it's about 3/4 done. still need sound treatment, paint, an amplifier and misc things.
>>198636164
running wire in the walls was way easier than routing and hiding shit outside the wall.
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>>198616016
I guess. They’re just a necessary TV accessoriy since TV speakers are intentionally made shitty. That said soundbars are the lowest and cheapest form of sound, surround speakers are definitely better but those are expensive and a sound bar is like $100
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>>198636871
>Sonys Acoustic Surface tech...the whole screen is a speaker
Sony OLED TV's have pretty decent speakers and the screen emits sound and acts as a center channel.
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Soundbars are pure cope for destitute brownoids who lack the living arrangements for proper 7.1 setups
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>>198617211
>listening to women



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