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What has happened to Doctor Who? edition
previous >>200357523
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booby tuesday
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can we all shut up about the episode and talk more about how much we want to fuck Ruby's friend Trudy and also Rose Noble?
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>>200360580
I'd make Rose Noble leak all over her tummy
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>>200360580
but that is sickening and nobody wants to do that
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>>200360592
based
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>>200360592
i am serious. her ladydong would be flopping around and shooting like a lawn sprinkler. Donna would be impressed
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>>200360615
fuck i am so horny rn. do you think the tardis has a horny jail?
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Not sure what you guys are all complaining about. When I abandoned my baby because I was a teenager who wasn't ready, I also wore a fancy cloak and pointed ominously at a road sign to name her, which also somehow made me immune and my face invisible to a God of Death and a time traveller reconstructing the scene using futuristic technology.
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>only thing lady remembers about her husband is that he's tall
What did they mean by this?
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Remember the Cracks in Time? Remember when Rory was sucked into one? Remember when The Doctor reached into the crack and pulled out a piece of his TARDIS?

WAS SUTEKH IN THERE TOO?
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>"his one constant companion: Death"
Clive knew
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>>200360693
FACE HEIGHT FRAME
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>>200360535
>>200360484
Utter state of this show when these diehard fans are the only ones left
You never heard this shit happening during the 50th anniversary
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>>200360700
yep
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>>200360700
>Amelia remembered the dog on the tardis
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>>200360558
Gonna miss Ruby, she was a good companion, only one along with Dan i've liked in recent years.

Felt bad for her foster Mum, she just let her fat lazy biological mum in like she did nothing wrong
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>>200360726
post more of these edits
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>>200360758
go back through the last 3 threads
there have been some great ones
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You know the sutekh reveal actually works really well if you just do what the showrunners have done since series 11 and just pretend Capaldi's era never happened
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>sutek: ooof ouch ow owch
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>>200360750
She's in the next season with the new Indian companion
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>>200360750
Dan should totally come back and smack Nigcutie in the head with a frying pan
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Why did the lady keep saying he has a nice face when he's clearly black?
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DOCTOR WHO 2018 - 2024: THE CLUSTERFUCK YEARS
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>>200360782
>Alright Doctor Lad, remember how you helped all your other companions but left me homeless. Nice one mate
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>>200360767
>pretend the best doctor never happened
how about no
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lmao at Rubes asking who "the man with the hair and the girl" is and 15 goes "oh they're just people who travelled in the TARDIS"

wow, way to go, shitting on the past. "they're just people, don't worry about it honey"
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Pitch an 8th Doctor miniseries.
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>>200360840
That's because somehow Sutekh is killing off memory too. Like the somehow-surviving lady who forgets that her child died. It's meant to show that the Doctor even is losing memories, or something. I dunno, RTD is a hack.
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They hinted about the 73 yards being important again, but never delved into it. I guess that'll come up again in future?

Also is that super evil Welsh prime minister a character from old /who/? They keep talking like there's history with him but haven't shown anything
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Didn’t watch any of this. How was the season? Was it better than the Whittakerslop?
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>>200360867
>Was it better than the Whittakerslop?
Barely.
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>>200360857
7 shows up bitch slaps everyone and leaves 8 in 1980s england without any shoes
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>>200360865
>Also is that super evil Welsh prime minister a character from old /who/?
No. Literally showed up this season.
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>>200360867
No.
Just ignore the new series.
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>>200360867
>Was it better than the Whittakerslop?
No, but it was bad in different ways
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>>200360867
ignore terrible fanfiction dr who ended with 12
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Sutekh was the one who knocked four times btw.
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>>200360839
he "happened" just like Cushing, Warner, and Atkinson "happened"
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reminder that Shalka Doc is canon now
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>>200360840
That's because 15 isn't the real Doctor. 14 is. 14 is the same being that Tom Baker was, Ncuti is a separate entity because he split from the original Doctor.
>>200360865
73 Yards is important because the evil nuclear guy from that episode made DNA testing mandatory, which is how they found Ruby's mum
>>200360867
It's pretty much unwatchable. Racism is the villain in one of the episodes, and Sutekh gets slammed by the Doctor for cultural appropriation of Egyptian culture.
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>>200360867
surprisingly no. almost like Chibnall actually was just RTD2
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>>200360957
lol you remain delusional I see, don't imagine I don't know who you are
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Whenever I feel sad about the world, all I have to do is remember Davros just had his eyes shut all those years, and I piss myself laughing.

Whenever I feel sad about the world, all I have to do is remember Sutekh was just sat on top of the TARDIS all those years, and I piss myself laughing.
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>>200360941
this
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>>200360986
>73 Yards is important because the evil nuclear guy from that episode made DNA testing mandatory, which is how they found Ruby's mum

But the Doctor made a point of saying strange things happen at 73 yards in this episode, and they still haven't explained wtf happened that episode and how they were able to do a time loop thing, or how Ruby has some memories of her previous time loop.

Or who Mad Jack is and the pixies or whatever they are that were powerful enough to permanently take the Doctor
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Isn't Kate Stewart a bit old for colonel Christofer?
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>>200360973
What does 'canon' even mean anymore?
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>>200360558
>>200360867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKaXK1zeOms
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>>200360558
Predict the next season.
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>>200361088
>"the story of the church on Ruby Road"

uhhh the story isn't about the church, it's about Ruby. someone edit this man's scripts for the love of god
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>>200360558
Dr Who must be for smart kids because I didn't understand the finale at all.

>>200360578
Haha she has got a great rack of lamb
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>>200361030
lmao why do you fight against best doctor so much? why do you refuse to acknowledge 12 as the best? instead of admiring and respecting the last and greatest doctor you choose to be salty. What terrible brain damage have you suffered to come to such a place?
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>>200360986
>Racism is the villain in one of the episodes
except it wasn't racism it was caste crap and was one of the only good episodes this season because it was just a simple story about bubblewrap aliens eating everyone and the social media AI bubble intentionally making sure the vapid and infantile users don't notice
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>>200361088
>The Doctor's story ends in absolute terror
and then continues anyway because he regenerates or there's a new series
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>>200360615
>>200360669
https://www.monkeygrip.com.au/collections/occy-straps
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>>200361156
Capaldi's a great Doctor but Baker has personality AND stories.
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>>200361091
>15 meets the new Indian girl companion
>Mrs Flood appears in the first episode to hint at stuff
>Ruby appears in a filler episode halfway through the series
>A new repeated phrase/motif starts in episode 1 and continues throughout the series
>The doctor and Indian girl don't notice these repeated phrase/motif until Part 1 of the finale
>The repeated phrase/motif is revealed to be related to a returning classic who villain (probably Mrs Flood)
>This villain destroys the earth/the universe at the start of Part 2
>The villain is defeated via something to do with the Indian girl companion
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Apologise.
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>>200361091
Where do we even go from here?
Fuck it, let's go mental. The series big-bad is John DeLancie as the Trickster. Varada Sethu is Susan. They play snooker with the multiverse. The Doctor gets a pet Dalek.
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>>200361091
Space Grannies!
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>>200361246
What were they THINKING with this design? They went from Capaldi's interior to this shit.

UNJUSTIFIABLE.
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>>200361246
Still the worst interior.
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>>200361240
>Daleks show up finally
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>>200361248
>The Doctor gets a pet Dalek.
Oswin needs to return
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>>200361246
Christ, it's oogleh
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I am the rage and the vile and the voracity. I am the Prince and the Fallen. I am the Enemy, I am the Sin and the fear and darkness. I shall never die. The thought of me is forever; in the bleeding hearts of men, in their vanity and obsession and lust. Nothing shall ever destroy me. Nothing!
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>>200361274
I liked it when the crystal columns waggled up and down lmfao
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>opportunity for someone to be in a position where he could get molested by Lalla Ward as Romana
>position goes to a fag
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>>200361213
i'll give you that, moffat was in a downward spiral writing wise towards the end but he manned up and pulled it together for the finale of dr who TDF. Doesn't take anything away from Capaldis amazing performance
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>>200361246
Sorry Chris.

I forgive you, and I miss Karvanista.
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>it's an Ncuti episode
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>>200361246
FAREWELL
ARAGOG
KING OF THE ARACHNIDS
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>>200361091
>Simon Burhman keeps appearing on TV screens looking for people to audition for his new talent show
>Daleks return with the new unproblematic Davros
>Pantheon plotline ongoing. The god of farts appears.
>Satirical Alex Jones/right wing radio host character
>New companion is super sassy and smart
>Finale reveals Simon Burhman as SiBurhman, the letters rearrange into Cyberman
>Mrs Flood's identity is revealed and is underwhelming
>Ruby returns briefly and is pregnant
>The Doctor cries every episode
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>Toymaker in the Giggle talking about how he's terrified of The One Who Waits while nervously pulling at his collar, giving sideways glances towards the TARDIS, and muttering "don't make eye contact don't make eye contact don't make eye contact" under his breath
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>>200361246
what a disgusting piece of shit, 12s was max comfy
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>>200361389
>Maestro not noticing he's just down the road
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so was it ever explained how ruby can make it magically snow...despite the fact that it turned out that she is just an ordinary girl with an ordinary mother?
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top fucking kek

https://x.com/PoorlyAgedWho/status/1804317498944139719
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>>200361389
you need to stop trying to justify this shit, that never happened
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>>200361322
New Who will always be subordinate to Classic. Them's the rules.
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>>200361433
>"She was important... because we think she's important. That's how everything happens - every war, every religion, every love story. We invest things with significance. So while the whole of creation was turning around her, it made her sheer existence more powerful than Time Lords and gods. In the end, the most important person in the universe... was the most ordinary. A scared little girl... making her baby safe."
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>>200361453
unless its 12, thems the fucking rules dum dum
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>>200361433
yes, its because of love you see.
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>>200361441
i'm not justifying it, i'm ripping the piss out of how dumb it is anon
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>>200361315
>Adric wears a star for "excellence in mathematics"

That's what he says
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>>200361463
This makes no sense and sounds like something a dementia patient would say.
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>GAaAaaAAAAGhhhhhhHhhHHhhHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

poor suetech
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>>200361304
I can hear the voice and music in my head
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>>200361477
No
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I haven't seen anyone who liked the ruby's mother reveal. What was RTD thinking?
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>>200361526
>What was RTD thinking?
He wasn't.
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>>200361463
>"She was important... because we think she's important.
so this was just RTD trying to do Hybrid baiting just much worse? at least that bait was actually about the character work taking precedence over mystery box bait, in this case it's just an empty mystery box because fuck us for expecting any proper storytelling right?
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>>200361511
yes
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>>200361526
he thinks that hyping her up to be some big important person or character from the past for almost a year, then revealing her to be nothing, is a clever "twist".

the pointing at the sign thing was fucking retarded as well.
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>>200361489
Same with most of the 'explanations'
>"If time is a memory, then memory is a time machine."
>"It's a remembered TARDIS. It's bits and pieces of every TARDIS that ever was, held together by hopes and wishes and luck."

>"Absolutely real. Every time the TARDIS would land, it would roll her out like... OK, so the TARDIS has a perception filter so it doesn't get noticed, it just sits there, kind of unseen, cos it casts a field around it at 66.7 metres exactly."
>"Funny things happen at 73 yards. People say that you can see things. So... Sutekh, he used this field, but used it massively. He focused his mind, created a whole new person everywhere I'd land. But perception means that she fitted in, she had a character, she had a history, she had a truth."
>"I think she was reborn every time. Each time the TARDIS would land, the idea of that woman would get stronger and stronger. By 2024, she was Susan Triad, this monumental figure."

>"You saw all of time and space with me, Sutekh! So I thought, "What if you see it again?" What happens if you bring death to death? You bring life!"
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>>200361544
https://youtu.be/idXkulS9CJI?feature=shared

No
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>>200361463
>RTD trying to ape Moffat whilst not understanding Moffat
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>>200361304
kino episode. They don't make 'em like that anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImXWYGGpDg
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>>200361480
ah, yes some foreshadowing would've made this stupid shit jut a little less stupid
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>>200361556
There's always a twist at the end.
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>>200361560
>By 2024, she was Susan Triad, this monumental figure.
Literally just a random 60 year old woman.
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>>200361248
>Where do we even go from here?
>Fuck it, let's go mental.
Faction Paradox
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>>200360580
>fuck Ruby's friend Trudy and also Rose Noble?
that's disgusting anon.
I want THEM to fuck ME.
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>>200361592
Why hadn't they ever noticed the thousands of Susan triads before series 15 too? It feels like a last minute change to have him be on the TARDIS since pyramids of mars instead of just wild blue yonder
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>>200361633
She was already there with Newton before anything had even gone down in WBY
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>>200361453
For me it is the Missing Adventures.
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>>200361568
yes 12 is without doubt the best doc ever put on screen, sorry tom your fine even good but you can't beat someone like this
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AN OPEN PUBLIC LETTER TO THE BBC.

Bring back Gareth Roberts.
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>>200361665
I like the knockoff B5 uniform lel
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bros
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>>200361665
>>200361511
>>200361453
Post more book covers.
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>>200360865
he literally exists so that rtd could complain about a different Welsh gay writer who is actually really kind and charismatic and dies a loot for the community and speaks welsh
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>>200361734
Did anyone else notice the booba in this episode?
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>>200361665
I liked both but man, we had the DEI thing in the 1990s too to some extent.

Take Kate Orman, fellow Australian. She is VERY left wing lol
https://dreamer-easy.livejournal.com/450375.html

>>200361674
Tom played Tom. Perhaps a failing by some metric, but it's why he IS Doctor Who.
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>>200361764
Yes.
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>>200361749
For me, it's the weird Eighth Doctor adventures from the wilderness years
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>>200361766
>Take Kate Orman, fellow Australian. She is VERY left wing lol
>https://dreamer-easy.livejournal.com/450375.html
Did that show up in her works? I suppose the other thing to ask is was she even like that at the time?
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>>200361764
>>200361777
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>>200361749
Kylie and Camera Obscura
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>>200361766
yes yes, iregardless capadi did it better, more then that did it best, I know this upsets and confuses so many but facts are what they are nothing will change that
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60th anniversary specials > Series 14

Anyone else agree?
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>>200361777
>>200361799
What a champ.
The legend of ruby sundays booba
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>>200361813
I disagree. He was just okay. Like most modern Dr Who. It's alright, sometimes.
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>>200361813
>iregardless
kys
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every nuwho finale after S10 only happens to retroactively make people apologize to Moffat's finales

Parting of the Ways still the best one though
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>>200361766
>I can't speak for every Neo-Pagan or Wiccan; no-one can. I can tell you, though, that the goddess I worship, Inanna, is the patron of all sexuality. In the Mesopotamian hymns and tales she's a macho warrior and a new bride. Her clergy (as best we can tell) included gay men and cross-dressers. As the evening star, she's compared with a sex worker, hanging out of the tavern window looking for business! She's not a mother goddess; she's a goddess of sex, and without her, nobody can bothered with it. Starhawk says that the lovers taken from us by AIDS are her martyrs. She's the reason I've blogged so much about sex education, reproductive freedom, and freedom from sexual violence. If you are a slut, a fag, a queer, a whore, a tranny, a monogamous heterosexual, or a hopeful virgin, this goddess, who was worshipped for thousands of years and who has burst back to life, wants to gather you up in her huge multicoloured bouquet of life and love and joy. (Heck, if you're celibate or asexual, jump on in. It's a big bouquet.)

Amazin
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>>200361836
They were certainly more competent television, yeah
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>>200361784
Err yes
https://dreamer-easy.dreamwidth.org/1616368.html
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lots of fans on twitter talking about their cinema experience being bad, and lots of disappointment at the end lmao
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>>200361766
You don't seem to understand what DEI means.
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>>200361900
who the fuck would even go to the cinema at midnight to watch this shite?
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>>200361918
well, exactly lmao
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>>200361854
>just okay
damn, you are really hung up on 3 and 4 aren't you? look I like them too but 12 was the best ever, this is a simple fact 9 was the best of the nu-who stuff, but 12 really doesn't count with them, I compare him to classic who and the only one who comes close even beats 12 is 1, the others are good sometimes great but none have been as good as 12 was except hartnell, thems the facts
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SHOW I LOVED
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>>200361878
>Builds up to big ethical decision
>Doctor makes his choice
>Rose ex Machina barges in and throws the whole thing out the window with a flick of the wrist, and even gets to full-throat the Doctor as a reward
And that's the *best* finale
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>>200361003
>inherit money from disney
>effects are on a par with Scooby Doo movies
what did russell mean by this?
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>>200361870
>you didn't add that extra R this makes me upset and confused
go fuck a leaky pipe you faggot
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Did ManRose even speak in Empire of Death? Absolutely no point in her being there
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>>200361777
>>200361799
the worst part of Jodies run was the puritanism... like everything that Ncuti has worn so far, would have been amazing on Jodie
>tits out but pants
>skimpy top and skirt with boots


>>200361813
iregardless is not a word, regardless is what you mean.
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>>200361948
The correct word is REGARDLESS. People who say irregardless are destroying the English language and should all die.
>inb4 you post a dictionary entry
It was added to the dictionary because so many complete fucking retarded cunts like you kept using a completely incorrect word over and over and over. Go die.
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>>200361804
>>200361749
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did anyone else laugh out loud when ncuti said to ruby that he'd shown her the universe during her exit
here's what he showed her, according to what we see
>a space station run by babies
>the 1960s
>a warzone
>wales (basically a warzone)
>some planet where they just hung around in a sewer trying to direct the space racists
>regency england
>the finale
seriously he didn't show her SHIT
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>>200361749
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Grandfather Paradox
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>>200361963
I saw him die or something but noticed he didn't get any lines as well and I laughed.
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>>200361749
>>200361665
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>>200361988
>>200362021
I am well aware even this stupid spell check tries to correct me it would've been simplicity itself to change it to regardless, however I like irregardless i like the sound of it, it rolls off the tongue and so I will continue using it, dumb fucks
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>>200362021
it means the same thing, it's just nonstandard in modern times. like irredeemable or irrelentless. idiot.
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>>200362075
It's okay, bro, there was totally 6-12 months of adventuring in between each episode even though it was never hinted at and you'll never see it. Just trust me, bro.
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Don't Scare the Hare
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>>200362107
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>>200362021
Irregardless I didn't read your post and your a little faggot, and that's not my problem
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>>200362110
being willfully stupid makes you the dumb fuck.
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>>200362110
Like I said, kys.

>>200362118
Irredeemable is a correct, standard word.
Irrelentless is something you just made up and no one has ever said before.
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>>200362118
Regardless = without regard
Irregardless = double negative, therefore should be 'with regard'
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>Managra
>Anagram
>~cries~
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>>200362121
nick briggs foaming at the mouth
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>>200361749
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>>200362145
>>200362157
>being willfully stupid
you mean refusing to allow current year nonsense to correct the words I intended to use I meant to say irregardless and thats what i posted you asinine retard
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Done watching it. It was awful, only thing I'm happy about is fags online finally having the guts to admit it was awful.
The 8 episodes overall don't paint a pretty picture, to me this is S11 tier overall.
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>>200362167
>MANAGRA
>MUNEGRA
>SUNEGKA
>SUTEGKA
>SUTEKA
>SUTEKH
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>>200362118
>irrelentless
now thats where I draw a fucking line, I post irregardless because its a good sounding word what the fuck is "irrelentless"? that means nothing, irredeemable does ireegardless does, "irrelentless" is just taking the piss
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>>200362210
Your insistence on using a word you know is incorrect because "I like how it sounds" is the textbook definition of willful ignorance. You're also talking to more than one person, by the way.
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some advice for you all
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>>200362272
>>200362286
We should all workshop this, exhaustively
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>>200362286
you are confused as to what the word ignorance means, since I know exactly what I am doing that isn't ignorance it is ironically enough, wilful disregard.
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>>200361749
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Wait, so what was Sutekh actually waiting for? Why did he cling to the ship for so long, and only choose now to reveal himself? Was it just so he could evolve and become stronger? I feel like that wasn’t really clear, unless I missed something.
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>>200362341
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>The Osirans were a race of powerful and intelligent humanoids of god-like power, who were worshipped by many cultures across the universe, including on Earth in ancient Egypt. (TV: Pyramids of Mars [+]) The Fifteenth Doctor suggested to Ruby Sunday that the Osirans' Egyptian stylings were in fact an example of cultural appropriation, as opposed to the Egyptians having copied the Osirians' aesthetics. (TV: Empire of Death [+])
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>>200362353
The mystery of Ruby's mom made him decide to make his move.
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>>200362353
I don't think even Russell knows...
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>>200362353
I assume he was waiting for a time he could become corporeal and that the Time Window powered by Ruby's memory and the secret time power of her wibbly-wobbly birthday snow or whatever the fuck was just the perfect alignment of things that made him corporeal again so he enacted his plan. But the finale doesn't really even hint at that, so it's just headcanon.
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The sad thing is Ncuti has the potential to be a great Doctor (unlike Whittaker who should never have been cast) just a shame he's burdened with a fart-huffing dickhead hack of a showrunner
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>>200362472
>Ncuti has the potential to be a great Doctor
Evidence for this?
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>>200362415
holy retardation
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if anyone here wants a better Sutekh story, see pic related
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>>200362472
lol no he didn't he's fucking awful
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>>200362545
>faction paradox
No thanks, I've actually felt the warmth of a woman
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>>200362545
https://tardis.wiki/wiki/The_True_History_of_Faction_Paradox
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>>200362472
Whittaker was fine, nothing else was
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>>200362545
Anon, the Faction Paradox posting is just shitposting. Don't tell me you are genuinely recommending it?
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>>200362597
I am Mad Larry's neighbour, and he made me listen to it all. I now bring /who/ the gift of Lawrence.
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>>200362472
Honestly I'm not gonna do the song and dance about "good doctor bad writing" anymore. A good doctor can elevate bad writing or at least seem good in spite of it. Ncuti so far hasn't accomplished that, maybe he will in the future.
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What exactly is the deal with Faction Paradox? Quick look and am I right in saying Doctor Who Time Lords (with the names/terms filed off) in a war with some paradox creating voodoo cult?
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>My sketch for the design team of what Sutekh + Tardis should look like! - RTD

We wuz robbed bros
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>>200362645
The design they went with was garbage. I wish they'd have gone with his human form.
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post yfw Sutekh turned the TARDIS door around to face his giant canine cock
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>>200361935
Doctor Who was never for you
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>>200361749
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>>200362642
Lawrence Miles' bizarre fanfiction that heavily values abstract ideas over all else and is desperately, consciously trying to be anything other than 'cult sci-fi'
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I agree, but I kind of don't mind - helps my autismo brain keep a clear divide between proper Doctor Who and this garbo era.
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>>200362743
Meant for >>200362676
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>>200362305
What a great way to end the show. Just imagine what could’ve happened next if it hadn’t ended after that episode. Bullet dodged.
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I liked it. Somehow the solution to bring everyone back was less asspullish than Jesus Doctor.
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Do we think < 2m viewers is a possibility in S2?
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>the doctor is still stuck in the matrix
everything after 1986 never happened
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>>200362791
Are you fucking joking?
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>2005 Rose becomes god and brings life
>2007 Doctor becomes Jesus
>2024 Doctor becomes God and brings life
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>>200362791
>how do we defeat the most powerful being in the universe doctor?
>lets put him on a dog leash
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>>200362800
You can't really get more asspullish than Jesus Doctor.
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>>200362829
>Sutekh has the power to kill everyone, so we'll drag him around all the places he's already killed everyone because if you kill people who are already dead they come back to life
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>>200362794
Depends on that all-important weather. I want it to go sub-2m so badly.
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>go to all the effort of making gods real with a whole set of specials to prepare for the new season
>painstakingly explain how these gods are not of this universe and completely different from anything the Doctor has ever faced before
>build up to the big bad god of all gods that makes the previous gods all run scared
>he's just an alien from this universe who got powered up and evolved by exposure to the time vortex which has happened lots of times to other people before and is nothing new
>literally nothing about him is out of the ordinary, of another universe, or the makings of a real god as previously established and defined within this very same season
How did RTD drop the ball THIS hard? It's fucking embarrassing how horribly inconsistent this is. Sutekh's power doesn't come from being "a real god" it just comes from hanging out in the time vortex for longer than anyone else ever has. So why even bother establishing the whole "gods are real" narrative in the first place?
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>>200362874
If you kill death you get life. If you minus a minus, you get a positive.
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>>200362909
I'll be sure to bring a gun and shoot the person in the casket at the next funeral I attend.
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>>200362794
I'm looking at the competition, I think Doctor Who might get away with over 2mil tonight by virtue of there being fuck all else on
>naff 15 year old romcom on BBC2
>Belgium V Romania (football, apparently, not the World Pickpocket Championships) on ITV
>F1 highlights on C4
>The Good Life retrospective on 5
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doctor in distress
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>>200362909
Actually, if you kill death you get Torchwood: Miracle Day.
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>>200362909
you really are a fucking idiot aren't you?
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>>200362933
Bring your loved ones back to life with this one simple trick!
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>>200362909
But he's not killing 'death'. 'Death' isn't something which exists (except for in Torchwood, but we politely ignore that one), it's not tangible thing which can be killed, it's a concept. He's not 'killing death', he's just existing where he had previously killed people
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>>200362976
It's just cancelling his power out.
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>>200362991
If you kill a murderer, his victims come back to life. It's just that simple.
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>>200362909
Does this mean no one dies in Doctor Who anymore? It’s such a retarded concept
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>>200363003
>rtd uses a reset button
no flippin way bros
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>>200363003
yes we already covered the "you are retarded" no need to compound it
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how many power of love endings have there been this season
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>>200363044
Space Babies (kind of) and Boom were the only ones that really did that
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>>200362991
He isn't killing the concept of death in a literal sense.
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>>200363104
Regardless, this episode felt like the script's first draft - as did every episode in this season. Rushed. Non-imaginative. Puerile. Dumbed-down. DISGUSTING.
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>>200363104
Right, then what is he doing?
He has kill-everything powers, so naturally if you use his kill-everything powers in places/times where everything's already dead, it makes a double negative and kill-everything powers un-kill everyone. Which is, of course, fucking retarded
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>>200360867
it is almost as if Chibnall never left, so no.
TTC still there and even more dumb shit was retconned for the sole purpose of - using RTD's own words - "make people talk about the show".
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>>200363144
It's destructive interference.
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>>200363144
It's doubly retarded because we're told that Sutekh gave life to Harbingers (endless Susan Triads) every time the TARDIS landed, as a means to spread his Dust of Death around time and space.

So how does simply dragging Sutekh around time and space undo it, exactly? Wouldn't it make a tiny bit more sense for the undoing to happen only once Sutekh was killed, thus severing the link to all the Harbingers/Susans and magically undoing the sands of death?
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>>200363222
Too late for technobabble now, babes. We're in full bore Magicland
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>>200363248
That's a real thing THOUGH
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Was Ruby only meant for 1 season?
>"lol we found your mom now fuck off"

I actually really liked Ruby as a companion, now we're gonna get that pakistani girl and the doctor is gonna go "I REMEMBUH YOUR FACE FROM THIS EPISODE" and she'll be like a shit clara.
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>>200363267
Reversing polarity is a real thing too, that doesn't make it any less technobabble when it's slapped onto something in a senseless fashion to handwave a massive narrative contrivance
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>>200360867
Basically, imagine that the Doctor's an overly emotional pussy who acts like a stereotypical gay man and at does stuff like fighting Drag Queen Satan and spending an episode standing on a land mine and crying.
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>>200363285
RTD1 only tended to do 1 companion per series + occasional recurring appearance

At least it makes a change from deadwood like Yaz hanging around 5x longer than she ever ought to
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>>200363285
>pakistani
She's from South India
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>>200363328
Same shit, different street
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>>200363285
No, in the Unleashed they already confirmed she was coming back. The first couple in the next season won't have her, but then she'll be travelling with the Doctor again. They also released a clip that's probably on Youtube.
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>>200363299
>And I say bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish
>That's the way we do things, lad. We're making shit up as we wish
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>>200361951
what is left of the fanbase is absolutely deranged.
You'd think they didn't liked it for the shitty writing and the non existent pacing of the episode but no, when i opened xitter this morning it was all about people seething over Kate holding hand with the man soldier and the fact that the episode didn't retcon even more of the time lords' lore.

It has come to this, people screaming over the presence of either gay or straight shit, while taking away everything that made the show interesting.
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>>200363328
my bad lol
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>tfw sutekh also showed up in another dogshit finale
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Empire of Death > The Big Bang
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>introduce new friend to sutekh
>visit wiki for QRD
>what the fuck is this citation formatting mess
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>>200362414
Why is she making that face?
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>>200363473
I clicked all the + symbols to see what would happen

lmao
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>>200363396
>both Roberts' Master and Sutekh couldn't leave the Tardis
It was all connected... they are playing the long game!
seeing any frame from TTC's plotline disgusts me
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>>200363473
That's a product of the mentality that everything is canon. The show, spin-off shows, BBC novels, licenced novels, licenced audio dramas, Doctor Who magazine stories, comics, comic strips, video games etc etc. A non-retarded wiki would only detail the show and have anything else listed in a section under semi-canon or apocrypha.
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>>200363133
you mean irregardless
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>>200363587
I honestly wish there was a TV-only Wiki. This is a fucking mess. They even shoehorn stuff in from shit like Instagram videos as "canonical appearances" or trading cards, etc.
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>>200363326
>Yaz hanging around 5x longer than she ever ought to

you take that shit back right now. Yaz should have stuck around and been kept instead of bringing bimbo Donna back
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>>200360558
They have to replace every single person in movies with black people. Doctor who has been a white dude sense the start. They do this on purpose to demoralize people and the fans. its all propaganda. After all UK tv is the most far left cultural marxist weirdo shit out of any country.
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>>200363396
>>200363473
How does that look worse than some of the older creature designs?
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>>200363587
>That's a product of the mentality that everything is canon.
Its a product of autism and lack of being told no.
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>>200363473
You are talking about a wiki that decided it needs articles on
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Pie
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Toilet_paper
https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Badger_(species)
Think of something random / commonplace and you will probably get an entry about it.
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>>200363648
The two are linked.
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Finale was shit, will this burst the bubble of any fans of this season?
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>>200363648 is right >>200363652 this is just blatant autistic hyperfixation which can be useful for trivia and compiling useless info but left unchecked and you get retarded fucking wikis like this.
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>>200363652
this reminds me of when the human pet guy (Cybersmith) used the tardis wiki as a replacement for wikipedia.
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>>200362874
>>200362909
>>200362991
>>200363104
you're all retarded; it's obviously supposed to be that Sutekh is being made to kill the time event of the deaths happening because he's in the middle of a fucking time vortex.
He's killing the events themselves; this was foreshadowed/established as possible by the scene in the tent talking aboout hoow the death wave can go backwards in time to kill people and can kill 'memorie' - and the episode kept making a point of how memories = time.
They were actually losing memories because the death wave was killing their past selves/past events; it was an inter-spacetime killing event. The same happened at the end except Sutekh was killing the time event of all the deaths happening thereby undoing it.

Don't ask me why the f uck Sutekh just hitting the sides of the time vortex made him do this specifically or the mechanics of how the death wave went from just sand that disintegrates people to an interdimensional cosmic wave between scenes, I have no fucking idea.
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>>200363495
seeing rory's pp after seeing matt's monster hog
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>warn everyone that the "there is no canon / everything is canon" approach would just be an excuse to ignore any narrative continuity
>get called a nerd
>show ignores any narrative continuity and comes up with ridiculous shit or retcons that make it hard for everyone to take the show seriously
>everyone wonders how this could happen
you made your bed now lie in it fuckers
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>>200363774
>the death wave
and we laughed at "the death particle" for being shit tier writing
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>>200363774
>is being made to kill the time event of the deaths happening
>He's killing the events themselves;
Which is, once again, retarded.
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>>200363800
Sutekh was ALWAYS on the tarids and this show was NEVER for you.

get over it
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>>200363852
>tarids
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>>200362642
No, Faction Paradox are really just the narrators, really.

It's actually Legally Indistinct Time Lords at war with a mysterious enemy (actually alternative Time Lords - the Time Lords of a different continuity, and both are fighting to make THEIR version of events the real one)
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>>200363601
Kill yourself
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the whole episode felt like a modern big finish boxset
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I'm on 1st episode. The space babies are so freaking hilarious! Is this show worth watching? I'm not too sure about this new Dr. Who actor, but ill give it a try.


They got good writing for the Dr. Who series but then they infest it with so much weird woke cultural marxist shit propaganda that contributes nothing to the story line that it ruins the show some what. Why the hell do they do this? I guarantee hardly any black people even watch this show or care about it anyways.

Anyways I didn't even know they made a new Dr. Who until I came on here and see you guys spamming threads about it non stop 24/7. Almost like this place is a test ground for internet social media marketing campaigns for tv shows and movies. Hmmmmmm...
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>>200363800
>Sutekh was always in the Tardis
>Normal people can make it snow if other people think they are special
>Richard E Grant is canon
>Donna's son is a beautiful woman
This is the new world. Best get used to it chud
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>>200364112
I wonder what Briggs thinks of NuNuWho?
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>>200364204
>It's okay, but needs more Vlinx! And where are the Daleks!?
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It just occurred to me that despite the fact it was brought up in the church of ruby road and despite the fact that it's an obvious parallel to the Ruby beiing a foundling/orphan plot, absolutely nothing was further developed or established about the Timeless Child ongoing storyline.
And Sutekh, having seen all of time and space and been on the TARDIS for millions of years, should have known more about the details of it than The Doctor himself by now and should have teased/mocked The Doctor over it. I guess RTD just forgot he had been carrying on that Chibnall plot point and had said The Doctor being like 'a refugee' is the angle they were supposedly going for this season with his character. Even more wasted potential.
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>the Doctor ressurrected the daleks
i'm keking
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>>200360558
lol holy shit so far I am loving this first episode. This space baby idea is so freaking funny and cute at the same time. haha

>"Is that your pet dog downstairs?"
> "Whaaaaaa whaaaa! Its the Boogeyman!"

Its even funnier the way they say boogeyman in the english accent.
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>>200364232
wtf i didn't know Chibnall posted here!
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>>200364263
Can't believe we didn't even get a moment of hesitation there. "I could choose not to bring back Skaro... could I do that?"
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>>200364263
Time Lords status?
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>>200364336
Would have actually been a good moment to riff on the opposite moral dilemma to Genesis of the Daleks
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Also why do a majority of good looking british women look like this girl in the show? Its like they all kinda have a same similar look about them.
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>>200364357
Dead. Can't be last of the timelords if there are other timelords
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>>200363877
it's always been tarids. only retards call it a tardis (because they're tards)
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>>200364420
What about the one who lives in Donna's garden?
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>>200364357
What clumsy political allegory would RTD2 do with the Time Lords? A Farage, Boris or Trump type character? Something Brexit related?
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I thought 14 took all of the trauma and bad juju with him - why does 15 cry in every fucking episode? lol.
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>>200364443
He's still the Doctor
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>>200364448
I'm still in awe at Mr ap Gwilliam, whose entire political agenda was just
>nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes nukes
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>>200364472
since this doctor is zesty, and has activated melanin receptors, it's just part of the package
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Oh great more propaganda. Of course they have to insert abortion rights into the space babies episode. Holy shit...
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>>200364472
Because RTD can only write one way. Like how Moffat made every doctor a mary sue god
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>>200364472
Therapy out of order, y'see? So it's like 15's been on SSRIs for an entire lifetime
>>200364499
Just a couple of last of the Time Lords
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>>200364391
all put on too much orange make up and end up looking like generic slags
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>>200364147
Space Babies is one of the worst episodes of the entire show.
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>>200364532
>Like how Moffat made every doctor a mary sue god
uh-huh
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>>200360558

A MILK button?
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>>200364503
nukepilled
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>>200364336
Of course he would do it, he hates genocide.
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>>200364448
Time Lords needs to accept immigration. Rassilon is wrong in wanting to stop the starboats.
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>>200364391
>I was watching... Sleepy Goth, that's what I call him, Sleepy Goth
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>>200364588
cock milking button
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>>200364613
>Rassilon babe, I'm the one who saved you from the time war. I'm the one who you stole regeneration from. And guess what hunni.... I'm an immigrant!
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DOCTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
THERE'S A BIG FUCKING DOG THING IN HERE
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>>200361339
>I miss Karvanista

I do too. It's so bizarre to think the Doctor learns they had a companion but the Time Lords deleted their memory of them and put a chip in his brain that will kill him if he speaks about their time together then an hour later Sontarans wipe out every single other member of the companion's species and the Doctor just lets him fly off in a spaceship like nothing happened instead of trying to make things right.
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Which Doctor has the biggest penis?
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>Doctor! Do not go back to the Cardiff rift! I can see inside the Torchwood base, it's that Captain Jack and Ianto Jones, they're...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>200364876
Did that really happen? Thank God I dropped out the pregnant man episode
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>>200364357
Rassilons Time Lord, neither alive nor dead until witnessed by an observer
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>about to die
>stand there like statues instead of shitting and pissing themselves
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>>200364879
3 > 15 > 11 > 4 > 8 > 12 > 1 > 5 > 2 > 14/10 > 9 > 7 > 6 > 13
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>>200364879
Matt Smith.
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do you think that unit soldier's still in bunker 17 wondering what the hell is going on?
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>>200363372
You can tell these people never watched the show even in 2014/15 when Kate said she was a divorcee with kids. She’s never been a lesbian
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Regenerate >>200365011
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>>200361304
why did this episode do the 'god' concept so much better
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>>200364934
They know they can't stop it, they believe the Doctor will fix it. They're bravely facing their (temporary) end with dignity.
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>>200364998
she got divorced because she became a lesbian duhhh
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>>200364905
The what?

>>200364934
Special effects are hard
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>>200362566
Describe it. No cheating.
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>>200365279
Dr Katherine Sally Lethbridge-Stewart, known professionally as Kate Stewart from 2004 to 2023, was the Chief Scientific Officer and Commander-in-Chief by 2024 at UNIT where she quickly gained notoriety under the pseudonym Kripple Killer Kate. She was the daughter of Fiona and Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart and the mother of Gordy and another child. Among the LGBTQIA+ community she is more commonly known as The Oncoming Storm.



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