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Bronze Bitch edition
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>>200525061
Is Daemon retarded? Why didn't he like her? She gave up THIS for Rhaenyra?
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WINDS NEVER EVER EVER
EAT SHIT, DORKS
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>>200525128
yes he gave up a shithole for the iron throne
not really hard to understand
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>>200525061
Daemon was gay as fuck for not impregnating this slam pig repeatedly. Possible the hottest chick on the entire show
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>>200525155
.......when was the last WoW update...
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>>200525182
wow is releasing a new expansion soon bro
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>>200525212
i meant the winds of winter.............
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>>200525109
Why can’t Brazilians meme?
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>>200525245
its joever anon...
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I download the CK3 agot mod but it's still so early in development compared to the CK2 mod. None of the good bookmarks are there yet, no dragons, no white walkers, none of the far off weird locations.

Luckily the upcoping CK3 official DLC will be a gamechangeer by introducing mechanics for landless characters, thus finally giving CK3 a unique value propisition compared to CK2
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>>200525155
>More sci-fi slop about his best friend cucking him
The 1000 worlds suck ass George, time to let them go.
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>>200525269
Still a couple years left before CK3 is playable
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>>200525280
there were some really nice short stories in the shared universe and tuf voyaging is kino
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>>200525269
>dragons, the boring one-sided victory tools
>others, the retarded and wasted storyline that goes nowhere
>far off weird locations, most of which have only a name and a short blurb with zero development and which have no impact on westeros
who gives a fuck?
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>>200525155
He got recognition after GOT and finishing book will be end of that.
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Based.
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>>200525353
me
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>>200525155
>H-He just needs to publish the House of the [insert random Westeros house here]. THEN he'll be ready!
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>>200525182
in 2022 i think, he said he had finished a couple of cersei chapters he was having difficulty with
2023? 0 pages
2024? 0 pages
we need to lock george in a cabin and force him to write because he apparently made the most progress during covid lockdowns
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>>200525155
lets have brandon sanderson finish the series
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>>200525370
Can’t tell whether she’s the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen or ugly.
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>>200525353
in the CK2 mod playing a corsair in the Balilisk Isles colonziing Sothoryos was one of the most kino playthroughs you could do, and wickedly difficult.

Also you ignored my comments about bookmarks. I wish they had focused on the War of Five Kings Bookmark and a Dance With Dragons, instead of ones like Roberts Rebellion and the War of Ninepenny Kings.
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>>200525155
I knew it I fucking knew it and was still disappointed
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>>200525447
lmao
i still believe....
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>>200525466
post-dance bookmarks missing is bad, i agree. i just don't really care about any of the conflicts involving dragons since they have never been implemented well and probably never will be in a game like ck.
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>>200525452
>lets have brandon sanderson ruin the series
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>>200525061
she cute
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>>200525061
when is Abigail Thorn aka PhilosophyTube appearing?
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>>200525520
maybe it was a submod but I remember dragons being pretty fun in ck2 agot. You could have dragon duels when two armies with dragons met, burn entire castles alive, they felt like overpowered nuclear weapons which they were in universe.
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>>200525597
I don't think he is going to appear till s3.
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>>200525458
She’s in the middle. She’s cute but she’s better at different angles. Sometimes she looks kinda gormless like when she first got revealed but then looks absolutely pretty.
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>>200525103
>Daemon Blackfyre is such a fearsome fighter that he has to be taken down from a distance using arrows
>Daemon Blackfyre II is such a bitch that he got arrested after losing a jousting match against a freshly tortured bastard
The quality of Blackfyres really fell down after a single generation, imagine what kind of candy ass retard Young Griff is after several generations.
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>>200523743
source?
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>>200525706
FORGIVE US, MY QUEEN
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>>200525789
I don't know that this nigga was expecting
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>>200525103
KWAB
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>>200525458
Phia is Shroedingers Britslag.

She's both an ethereal beauty, and a washed out manchester city slag at the same time. Depending on angle, lighting, time of day, alcohol consumption and mood.

Whatever the case though, she is immensely cute both as Helaena and out of character.
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>>200525061
Why does color palette of this show have to be so drab?
Even daytime scenes are mud-colored.

If they hate color so much, why not just make it black and white?
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>>200525789
based fucking bloodraven
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>>200525597
They turned the based Lysene admiral into a commie tranny. It's so over. I would've used him as a stepping stone to slowly introduce the Rogares as part of the Triarchy subplot.
TLDR he's broke, they pay off his debts as long as he places the Myrish and Tyroshi ships in danger whilst keeping Lysene ones safe as part of a long term scheme for the Rogares.
If anything the tranny should've been Racallio Ryndoon since he cross dresses, has colourful hair and has weird kinks.
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I wonder if Aegon will name Jaehaera his heir
That could also explain Aemond's seething
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>>200526021
This is so much better. I hate this era of art direction
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>>200525789
then you have Maelys the Monstrous, who could kill horses with a single punch and rip dude's heads off

I wonder what sort of fucked up inbreeding made him
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>>200526021
Have you ever been outside on an overcast day?
Why do I even ask, of course you havent.

Maybe if you've ever been outside in your life you'd know that natural lighting is not always turning everything into vibrant overexposed eyesores.
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>>200525789
Firstly, Young Griff is legit. Secondly, I don’t think the third and fourth rebellions have been fleshed out enough to cast any judgements on the quality of Blackfyre candidates.
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>>200526133
young griff is the painted up son of some lysene whore!
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>>200526111
That's just the satanic, cursed Targaryen genetics seeping though thr cracks once in a while.
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>>200526087
>Aemond doesn’t mention anything about Helaena, her son or Aegon himself and how sorry he feels about what happened.
>instead goes to some whore and cries about Luke instead of his more important nephew
>Aegon names jaehaera heir out of spite
Fuck Aemond.
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>>200526111
Blood magic I suspect
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>>200526087
Why would he be seething? Jahaera is Aegons last living child. If Viserys didnt have three more sons, Rhaenyra would also be his legitimate heir.
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For me it's Aegor Rivers.
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>>200525931
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>>200526250
Because Aemond wants to usurp Aegon and frankly Aemond wanting to burn Aegon alive because he made fun of him at a brothel is too silly
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>>200526087
So basically Aemond as a dark mirror of Daemon who actually does want to take his brother's crown?
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>>200526338
A coward and a craven. This is why Bittersteel beat his ass.
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>>200526271
I can’t believe George confirmed Bittersteel didn’t have children (who married Daemon’s daughter). Would’ve been the ideal identity of Young Griff.
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>>200526373
Thats probably not the reason, but more so that Aemond considers himself a better King than Aegon.
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>>200526111
I belive Valyrians were normal humans that used either magic or ancient tech to mix themselves with fire wyrms, and probably other animals like bats and lizards, they used the same to make dragons. That would also explain the human and dragon like parasites that infested and kille Aera when she went to Valyria
I believe Maelys is a genetic throwback to those early experiments.
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It's a shame they had to cheat because Breakbones would have been an infinitely better Prince Consort than either Laenor or Daemon
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>>200525128
She was a lesbian who threatened to cut off Daemon's dick if he ever tried to fuck her, and, failing that, would kill anything growing in her belly.
So, complete bitch.
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>>200526417
Dunno in the preview we see them getting in an argument in the council room
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Cute and canon!
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>>200525061
Damon will forever be a fucking retard for killing this 10/10 tomboy cutie pie.
>tfw you will never have a gorgeous medieval highborn huntress wife to teach you how to ride and hunt
literally why even fucking live? why go on???
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Is he going to be normal?
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>>200526606
I have a fanfic of a young magical prince captured and groomed by tomboy highborn huntress wife
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>>200526625
At leas he is safe from Alicent.
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>>200525061
daemon is based af, but nigga was out of his mind to not breed that babe
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>>200526633
write me into the plot, senpai.
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Why did Aegon pick Cole to be his hand? I mean they showed Larys to be shockingly competent. Larys probably would have made a better hand.
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how is CK2 game of throne mod different from the the unmodded game?
i think i've played it enough to grasp it well enough.
i did 2 muslim runs, one orthodox run that turned catholic towards the end and one catholic run.
idk if i should do a catholic unmodded run or a game of thrones run.
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>A hooded figure rapidly leaves the steps of Dragon Stone at very high speeds. Gone to do a mischief.
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>>200526742
Larys wants to be the Foot, not the Hand
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>>200526493
I was thinking that maybe:
Others = Men + ice magic
Dragonlords = Men + fire magic
The Others take babies and infuse them with icy magic
Dragonlords have fire magic in their blood and this sometimes affects the fetuses, creating these dragons people
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>>200526742
to paint him as incompetent
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>>200526742
Larys is like Borros to the blacks, they just take him for granted.
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>>200526742
everyone finds Larys creepy
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>>200526125
>muh realism
Maybe you don't get this, but the fact real world is ugly, doesn't mean the visual medium should be as well. Much like dialogue is supposed be entetairning and concise, and not dull like IRL conversations.
Ultimately audio-visual medium is an abstraction and should capture an idealized version of things.
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>>200526722
so the basic idea is his childhood friend finds him annoying and tells him to fuck off and he gets groomed by the older tomboy. He's a magical person from a race many consider savage and brutish (but they are in an alliance at the moment so they are not allowed to battle each other)

she wants to learn his magic but he can't teach it as it's born into the race, so she resolves to breed it into her bloodline. Like a grooming version of King Louie's "I wanna be like you"

I'm at work atm so I don't have the actual text I've written so far unfortunately
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>>200526742
did larys kill his dad and brother?
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>>200526958
on the show? yes
on the book? its never confirmed but people suspect he did it
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>>200526958
Yes because he's a degenerate monster, twisted inside and out
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ngl id let rhaenyra peg me
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Are Rhaenicent shippers autistic?
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>>200526997
so with that being said. daemon is going to harrenhall with larys in KL?
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>>200526742
Aegon's had 0 scenes with Larys why would he have any relationship with him.

In the books Aegon is influenced by Cole to become king, he's the one that TnJ's him into it. But they cut that from the show so it just lands weakly.
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>>200527109
To be fair Larys go away with it because he used a bunch of nameless prisoners during a period of peace, this wouldn't work during a war when everyone is in constant vigil and patrolling.
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In the Dunk books, Dunk is always in control of the POV. Will the show be like that or will they add a bunch of other stories to pad for time?
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>>200527103
JUSTICE FOR HARWIN STRONG
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>>200525061
>Kills Bronze Bitch
>marries brown bitch instead
Why is Daemon like this?
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>>200526021
I hate how it's always so dark you can hardly see in the Red Keep even when there's torches every two paces and broad daylight flooding in from the windows.
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>Otto won't appear for the rest of the season
>Aegon will be fridged after episode 4
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>>200527331
This was so retarded. It's just ludicrous on the face of it to pretend that these characters are the same race because [checks notes] their wigs are the same colour. If it was something they did solely to meet diversity quotas but chose not to acknowledge, that would be less offensive than deliberately drawing attention to it through dialogue.
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Helaena finally got what she deserves
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He bore the sword. Simple as.
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>>200527103
Rhaenyra x Alicent shippers literally run this show
check Sara Hess she's the captain of their ship.
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>>200526828
>everyone finds Larys creepy
He's literally me.
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>>200526742
Larys is not one to take the spotlight.
he leaves such tedious tasks to other people.
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I just don't understand why Alicent is in any of the small council meetings. The Queen Dowager isn't exactly a job, more like a description.
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>>200527561
She had some power over Aegon.
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>>200527169
right. but the lord of harrenhall wont be there to declare his banners for rhaenyra. so deamon will basically have to threaten them with another aegon the conquerer tier fire fest. he wont be diplomatic, it'll have to be coercive with threats of dragonfire
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>>200527331
desu, the bottom baby pic is like gore.
it should be deleted.
i don't even know if it is a real baby.
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>>200526828
>weird foot
>lurks behind pillars
>kinslayer
>the torture guy
understandable
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>>200527358
Yes, this this fucking completely devalues the composition.

I'd like to see what the shoe would look if Vince Gilligan directed it. That guy was obsessed with color.
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>>200527561
yea it was never emphasized how she attained the spot. she was just there in a scene
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>>200527612
Daemon as quite diplomatic to the acting lord of harrenhal and he will surrender the castle with no fighting because well he is not stupid Aemond will do something not diplomatic to them
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>>200527526
delete this immediately. treason
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>>200527521
They consider themselves from the same race because they’re both Valyrian. Clearly they have a different conception of race. And even if in Old Valyria the Valyrians differentiated themselves based on skin colour that distinction has become moot in the wake of the Doom and living in exile for over a century.
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>>200527789
Obvious troll.
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>>200527789
yep. the resemblance is uncanny
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>>200525061
How have the first two(?) episodes of S2 to been?
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>>200527789
>this level of gaslighting
>The great beauty of the Valyrians—with their hair of palest silver or gold and eyes in shades of purple not found amongst any other peoples of the world—is well-known, and often held up as proof that the Valyrians are not entirely of the same blood as other men.
>The blood of Valyria still runs strong in Lys, where even the smallfolk oft boast pale skin, silver-gold hair, and the purple, lilac, and pale blue eyes of the dragonlords of old
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>>200526518
Frfr
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>>200523583
>I wish the show had actually showed us what Viserys thinks of his kids other than Rhaenyra.
HOTD did show you what Viserys thinks of his kids other than Rhaenyra: he doesn't think about them at all. He whined all those years about how Targaryens no longer have dreamers, while not realizing his own daughter is one. That's how little he interacted with them. The Driftmark incident showed a complete absence of any father-son relationship he might have with Aegon or Aemond, to them he's like a distant grandfather or older uncle. When he's dying none of the green kids really grieve because to them he's like a distant relative. Also "Rhaenyra my only child" lol.
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>>200527789
Yeah but understand in the books, the Blacks are the racists and the Greens are the sexists. The Blacks are Valyrian supremacists who want to maintain pure Valyrian rule while Greens are the racemixed Andal-Valyrian mutts that the Maesters want to see succeed because the more racemixed the royal family is, the less likely they'll be able to control or hatch dragons. When Condal made the Velaryons black of skin, it turned the Greens into both the sexist AND racist faction when Greens are the pro-miscegenation faction while the Blacks are supposed to be anti-racemixing while led by multiple black-white skinned intermixed couples. Can't you see how ridiculous that is?
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>>200527965
>The blood of Old Valyria was strong in her, as is oft seen in the sons and daughters of the seahorse; her hair was silver laced with gold, her eyes as blue as a summer sea, her skin as smooth and pale as winter snow.
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>>200527965
Valyrians lack purple eyes in the show, so already they have taken liberties in the depiction of them on-screen.
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>>200527527
Lmfao suree
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>>200528103
Mfw I did this face once nit because of this scene, my normalfag coworkers make fun of me for it. Fuck em.
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>>200528221
>MERYN FUCKING TRANT?
>THE BEST SWORDSMAN IN THE WORLD KILLED BY MERYN FUCKING TRANT
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>>200528103
The Targaryens and Velaryons are both from Old Valyria; therefore, they don’t consider it racemixing. I agree that it is silly blackwashing that didn’t add anything substantive to the show but to say it incongruous with the ideology of Valyrian supremacy as depicted in the show is false.
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>>200528188
>still trying to gaslight
being shit before and cutting on colored lenses spending doesn't justify being shitty now or in the future with the black haired on Addam bastard of Corlys.
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>>200528352
Yarp..... i mean woof
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>>200528103
this is retarded on many levels and a funny shitpost but i only care about this bit on dragons. aegon II had the strongest dragon connection during the dance and aemond had no problems bonding with vhagar. furthermore, the dragonseeds also didn't have issues bonding with dragons and not all of them were 50% targ. it's probable that someone with 0 targ admixture would be unable to bond a dragon, but clearly not impossible - dany's dragons are quite friendly with people that are not targs and likely have no targ blood, though of course this was when they were hatchlings and young adults and not fully grown.
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Normally I am massively annoyed by Tumbleresque ships, but on a purely aesthetic level I've got to admit they look KINO together
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>>200528512
Your cloak is sullied, Ser.
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>>200528382
It's consistent in world, but I'm saying to put Alicent and Viserys on screen and say "this is racemixing" and at the same time put Daemon and Laena on screen and say "this is Valyrian supremacy and antiracemixing" is just funny and breaks immersion when it flies so square in the face of what we consider 'racemixing' in the real world.
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>>200528512
Criston can't say 'good morning' without sounding mad, so Arrak kind of check-mated him at this point.
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>>200528382
Targs and Velaryons married each other a lot so they should all look similar by now, whatever that is
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>>200528584
I think we all can agree Emma gets to wear straps
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TRAITORS AND VILLAINS
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>>200528570
My totally unfounded (but huge if true) theory is that anyone has the potential to bond with a dragon, and the belief that only Targs/Valyrians can is yet more Targshit cope/delusion.
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>>200528584
Tiktok is shitting and pissing themselves horny in the comments of any interview with Emma and Olivia. They just want them to fuck off in to the sunset together and be a couple
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>>200528512
How does Criston keep falling upwards?
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>>200528745
Which is funny because Olivia had more chemistry with Tom and Fabien.
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>>200528681
Tom was so great in this episode, swinging back and forth between rage and grief. Unironically Emmy-worthy.
>>200528783
picrel
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>>200528706
it's in the lore that other nations in essos tried but only the valyrians were successful, i think. i don't think it is completely untrue though, dany's dragons as they grow only (barely) listen to dany, though perhaps a non-targ could learn the magic or secret, like with the dragon-binding horn, or by being very powerful warg/greenseer or fire sorcerer. read some theories that maybe all the valyrians did was wake up their latent warg genes that all humans have or some shit but just use the power unconciously.
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>>200525061
I don't know why Daemon hated her so much. She's a cute and Runestone sets in a quiet corner of Westeros not too far from Dragonstone and King's Landing. Seems like he wasted a gud opportunity by murdering her.
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>>200528481
It’s not “gaslighting” you’re just being silly. You clearly just think having black people in medieval fantasy is absurd and ruins your suspension of disbelief - just write that rather than trying to underpin your comments with half-baked rejoinders of why it “doesn’t fit in the lore” when clearly the show is its own thing. Already, show canon has erased Jaehaerys II as a monarch and has presumably erased Targaryen-Velaryon intermixing post-Doom considering the skin colour of Jaehaerys I. The only thing that distinguishes Valyrians from normal Westerosi folk in the show is their white hair; so, it is perfectly consistent to have black Valyrians.

>>200528636
I do agree with you, and I suspect it will be disorienting when clearly a main motive of the Blackfyre rebellions was the injection of Dornish DNA into the royal line - not sure how they can depict that when Daemon Blackfyre will be browner than Baelor. Perhaps more meddling with family trees.
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>>200528783
>"Shall I face you one at a time or all at once? It makes no difference."
>"I'll have no songs about how brave you died, Kingmaker. There's tens of thousands dead on your account."
>cue twenty arrows piercing Cole
The show can't fuck that up... c-can it?
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This show would be kino if it ends with Alicent rhaenyra just scissoring each other over the dead bodies.
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>>200528933
>it's in the lore that other nations in essos tried but only the valyrians were successful, i think.
In my theory (/headcanon), this would be Targ propaganda invented by chroniclers centuries after the supposed events.
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>>200526213
>cries about Luke instead of his more important nephew
Makes sense. She and Luke grew up together for 8 years even though it was bad.
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>>200529063
kek. how does your headcanon explain the freehold's dominance? if anyone can bond a dragon, then they must have managed to keep the secret of how.
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>>200529015
It won't because the writers already want to make Cole look pathetic and this achieves it. At least in the book you could theorize that they did it because they were afraid of him actually managing to kill them in duels or all at once, but show Cole couldn't even defeat Daemon without him turning his back on him, so this challenge would end up sounding ridiculous.
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>>200529008
>You clearly just think having black people in medieval fantasy is absurd and ruins your suspension of disbelief
It's not the fact that they're in it, it's that they are black actors playing white characters and being explicitly stated to be the same race as other white characters played by white actors. It's incoherent and retarded.
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>>200528706
Preston Jacobs theory of the dragon riding and hatching X gene makes the most sense. Presumably the initial colonisation of these places involved a lot of defiling of local women which meant this X gene wasn’t passed on.
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>>200529293
Exclusive access to dragon eggs/knowledge of how to handle dragons passed down through the generations.
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>>200527526
not sure if she deserved it but i dont feel empathy for women if they ugly
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>>200529026
Stfu Sara you fucking freak
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>>200529415
>the brothel queens when no Smallfolk is watching
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>>200529402
If you mean it's passed on matrilineally, that doesn't really make sense to me, as the Dragonseeds are implied to be bastards of male Targs, also Alicent's children (or at least Aemond) were able to bond with dragons despite a non-Targ mother.
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>>200528188
They wanted to be lore accurate with the purple eyes in the show but the technical limitations at the time as well the contact lenses hurting Clarke and Lloyd they cut it.

You can’t compare that to the black velaryons when the show runners deliberately went out of their way to fuck the lore just so they could fill the diversity quota.
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>>200529447
Or it could also end with Lord Corlys deep inside Helaena
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>>200529527
One X gene means they can ride dragons, two means they can hatch dragons too. Also, Preston says that the Hightowers had an X gene which substituted for the normal Valyrian X gene because of their unique ancestry.
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>>200526520
Is that true, like from the books or something?
Or are you just making that up?
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>>200529604
It doesn’t matter if they wanted purple eyes originally and didn’t do it because of production limitations. Valyrians in show canon don’t have purple eyes.
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>>200529008
>You clearly just think having black people in medieval fantasy is absurd and ruins your suspension of disbelief
no. no one has an issue with the Tiste Andii in Malazan.
black characters are welcome when they make sense in the lore.
as the other anon answered, they absolutely make no sense in HotD.
>half-baked
they are literal book quotes.
>clearly the show is its own thing
that fucker CONdal advertised himself as a book fan and as someone who will make a faithful adaptation.
>show canon has erased Jaehaerys II as a monarch
GoT?
how do you explain white Velaryons in it?
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>>200529403
dragons and their eggs were historically found throughout planetos though, until the doom, other than the extreme north. so only the knowledge was gatekept.
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>>200525061
I think if you combined this woman's confidence with Helaena's autism, you'd create the perfect woman
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>>200529678
*addam & alyn
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Why is Dorne allowed to exist?
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>>200530111
dorne pussy game too ridic
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>>200530111
because no one can destroy them
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>>200529815
Straight up cop out answer as expected.

The purple eyes getting cut was due to technical/ budget limitations, the black velaryons was because some white leftists in Hollywood have to praise the alter of DEI.

You acting like they are the same shows how disingenuous you are.
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>>200529762
Okay, you win.
She was rumored to enjoy the company of women more than men.
She also refused to consummate her marriage.
She also said she would fight any attempt by Daemon to consummate tooth and nail.
It was also said of her that she would ensure that no issue from Daemon would ever escape her alive.
Good enough?
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>>200530069
both gay in case you haven't paying attention.
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>>200530304
how so?
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>>200530057
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>>200525789
It was his own fault giving it a try without the help of Betasteel. Who probably wouldn't have wanted to put a faggot on the throne anyway.
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>>200530333
he is a showfag who doesn't know that they're brothers.
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>>200530405
I can save her.
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>>200530111
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>>200530186
How does the intent behind the change have any bearing over whether it is cohesive with show canon? Valyrians don’t have purple eyes in the show, Valyrians aren’t characterised by their pale skin in the show. It’s as simple as that.
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>>200530405
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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One day.
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>>200526606
She dies at childbirth in the book
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>>200530600
What is up with witches and sorcerers and warlocks running around in the capital? This old woman is a danger to society.
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>>200530600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWJBenBumeo
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>>200530600
>AEGON WAIT! THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT THE NIGHT KING IS WITH VALY - ACK
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>>200529755
>>200530019
I wasn't aware of this stuff. Looking at the wiki, there's a bunch of in-universe theories as to the origins of dragons, one of which is that the Valyrians created them with blood magic from previously existing wyverns. This actually seems like the most likely (especially as GURM is also a sci-fi writer), because it would explain the necessity of Valyrians for dragons to hatch - there's no reasonable explanation for a species evolving in such a way that it literally can't reproduce without intervention from a specific group of humans.
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>>200530469
>show canon
CONdal can't even keep it together.
one season Viserys cuts himself on the Iron Throne and the next Aegon is drunk and leaning on it sideways without any cut.
and now that they showed Addam with straight up black hair Valyrians are no longer distinguished by hair color either.
>>200530668
she doesn't.
she falls off her horse and is bed ridden for some time before dying. she was awake after the fall.
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>>200530057
Renly brought it on himself.
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>>200530600
If the show doesn't deliver the "if they search the seven hells mayhaps" line well I'm gonna mail some anthrax to Condal.
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>>200530469
>”I mean if they put a Subaru Outback in the show, even though it makes no sense based off the material it’s based on, that would make canon to the show wouldn’t it?”

The show runners don’t give a shit about the lore and you clearly don’t either.
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>>200530600
I just realized that woman is an Elden Ring reference lmao
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>>200530825
>literally can't reproduce without intervention from a specific group of humans
pre-valyrian dragons and wild dragons are spoken of, so they don't necessarily need valyrians to hatch, though perhaps taming dragons changes how they reproduce. who knows what the truth is with the blood magic stuff, the asshai connection, and those weird worm things from the doom. it's all supposed to slightly spooky and mysterious.
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>>200530695
She's just a creepy clairvoyant, leave the old hag be.
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>>200530864
hugh has white hair at least
addam is just dyeing it for le epin dragonseed reveal for showfags, could be why alyn has a shaved head
the story reason will probably be that they didn't want to be known as dragonseeds to avoid embarrassing corlys or something, even though in F&B no one cared
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>>200531010
That was a truly pathetic reply with one of the worst false equivalences I’ve seen on this board. I’ll give you the opportunity to come up with something better.
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>>200531218
Addam actually does have a bit of visible silver, I noticed when he was picking up the crab.
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what do you guys think her boots smell like after a day of hunting and riding?
serious replies only
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>>200531336
Maybe they dye their heir to keep it secret. At least Addam. Alyn just shaves it.
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>>200530425
FYI In Real world Bookfags are worse than showfags
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>>200531363
Horse shit and blood
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>>200530469
Here's the thing, Valyrians are supposed to be (explicitly stated in the books, heavily implied in the shows) a homogenous race. Depicting them as two separate races, with drastically different phenotypes, one from the tropics and one from the northern hemisphere, and then telling the audience that this is the same race, is retarded. It would have been less retarded (though still offensive) to depict all Valyrians as black, than to depict them as two separate races while telling the audience to just pretend they're the same race.
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>>200531433
false bookfag
an usurper, traitor, oathbreaker, and enemy to gods and men
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>>200531448
the inside of the boots, not the outside
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>>200531433
now i'm curious.
some preston chapters are ok and others are pretty bad.
i want to see how good the AI chapters are.
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>>200531544
Weird.
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>>200531544
You won't George quickly filed case before news break out.
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>>200531264
The war in GOT started with Ned Stark noticing someone's true parentage simply because their physical appearance wasn't consistent with their supposed ancestors' appearance, because Joffrey had blonde hair instead of black and "the seed was strong." Appearance is extremely hereditary and indicative of a person's ancestry in ASOIAF. It's their closest thing to a DNA test result.

Despite ASOIAF being fictional, appearance being indicative of someone's parentage is an undeniably important part of the setting. In fact when someone's appearance does not match their supposed parentage, it's often a plot point for the story. That's why if a man who looks visibly Dornish came to Winterfell and claimed he's actually a Stark, the characters would all laugh and point out his appearance proves him a liar.

Targaryens and Velaryons have been inbreeding to "keep bloodlines pure" for generations. How on earth is one branch of the family unnaturally pale in HOTD while the other look like they're from the Summer Isles? They should all be mixed and look similar to each other. Old king Jaeharys was half-Velaryon, how come he is white as a sheet in the show and has no Velaryon features? How come the characters seem completely colorblind about Velaryons, but just taking a look at Criston's features is enough to convince Alicent he's Dornish? How come everyone notices Luke and Jace aren't Laenor's children because they look nothing like him, but nobody notices Daemon's daughters Baela and Rhaena look nothing like him?

it breaks disbelief when we have Rhaenyra's kids flagged as bastards simply because they don't look similar enough to their father, and then we also have an entire bloodline that completely ignores any internal logic when it comes to matching their appearance with their ancestry.

ASOIAF makes a huge deal out of appearance == ancestry, so colorblind casting is an awful idea for a story about bloodlines and ancestry.

That a better reply faggot?
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>>200531544
It would be so funny if George himself finished the books with AI and just hastily edited them.
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>>200531433
>You waited so long that Skynet™ became a real thing and finished your book for you
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for me it's Jacaerys
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>>200528937
he wanted to be king or have his kids be king
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I think the bigger issue with the whole black Valeryons thing is that the DEI people wanted black characters on the show when there’s almost none of them in the books. That means all in all GRRM is to blame for not writing more black characters. But the DEI crowd never attacks GRRM for this or try to cancel him, they just cast the characters as they see fit. The writers could have just picked another author or another series to work on, don’t adapt another GRRM work that will give the fat racist white man more money. But they couldn’t help themselves because they know GRRM and the ASOIAF franchise is proven to sell and they wanted a piece of that potential money.
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>>200531895
I want to pinch his cheeks
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My King.
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>>200531818
If he does not want to finish book,the least he can do is who sits on Iron throne.
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>>200531895
dollar store Timothée Chalamet
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ALICENT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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What would you out Aegon’s IQ at? Sub 80?
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>>200532162
King Gurmerys, Last of His Name, knighting his noble son Wynds of Winterhold.
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>>200532266
110 to 120, no higher. His main issue is that he has the impulse control of a chimpanzee.
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>>200527675
Why do most of the indoor sets in HoTD look so goddamn ugly and modern compared to GoT. Give me small, intimate chambers, that actual castles have. Not every fucking room needs to be a great hall.

Also, the autist in me doesn't like the costuming. Its just lackluster.
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>>200531626
>George quickly filed case before news break out.
what a fucking faggot
>You won't
yes i will.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230721122339/https://liamswayne.github.io/wow.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20230721122520/https://liamswayne.github.io/dos.html
>>200531813
yeah. that would suck.
>>200531620
why?
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>>200532233
I fucking knew it
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I miss her.
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the best part of the episode was when Otto went "lol, LMAO" to Aegon saying his dad named him King
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>>200531668
>Targaryens and Velaryons have been inbreeding to "keep bloodlines pure" for generations. How on earth is one branch of the family unnaturally pale in HOTD while the other look like they're from the Summer Isles? They should all be mixed and look similar to each other. Old king Jaeharys was half-Velaryon, how come he is white as a sheet in the show and has no Velaryon features? How come the characters seem completely colorblind about Velaryons, but just taking a look at Criston's features is enough to convince Alicent he's Dornish? How come everyone notices Luke and Jace aren't Laenor's children because they look nothing like him, but nobody notices Daemon's daughters Baela and Rhaena look nothing like him?
We’ve already touched on this. The family tree of the Targaryens in the show is clearly altered, not only because Jaehaerys I in the show is very white but because people like Jaehaerys II have seemingly been erased. Therefore, it wouldn’t be outlandish to suggest that the Velaryon-Targ intermixing post-Doom has been stricken from show canon. This is further implied when Laena says to Viserys that they should join their Houses “like they were in Old Valyria” suggesting that was the last time the two Houses intermarried (ignoring Rhaenys and Corlys, of course). Having black and white Valyrians doesn’t contradict race existing in the show. “Valyrian” is defined as having heritage from Old Valyria and perhaps the further identifier of white hair. And the reason why people think the Strong boys are bastards is because they lack white hair (which the children of Daemon possess) and most likely dark skin.

>That a better reply faggot?
No, as this has already been discussed.
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>>200532476
but to ottos knowledge he did.. didn't alicent tell her father that viserys called for aegon to become his heir before he died? Was that some sort of unspoken secret between alicent and otto knowing that it was bullshit?
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>>200532333
>how was their CGI so much better than the new mad max movie?
A pretty sizeable part of the budget for later seasons went to cgi for the dragons. Which is why the scenes featuring them are usually pretty short.
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>>200527675
Dang, this show looks like crap
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>>200532231
Rude. They look nothing alike.
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The Strong boy is grown into a Strong man.
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>>200532636
he cute
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KINGSLAYER! GET IN HERE!
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>>200532233
I can't believe how DARK they make these episodes everything and every character looks BLACK and you can't tell the diffierence because you can't see a thing.
HBO sucks.
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>>200532673
I am so sick of your fat bullshit
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>"MYSARIA NOOOOOO"
t. Daemon
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>>200532404
The one thing I will say for the costuming, I like that soldiers actually appear to have colours in their armour now. Rare for GoT (the Lannisters had the only soldiers who didn't look like ass in GoT).
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>>200532523
>people like Jaehaerys II have seemingly been erased
Over George’s dead body.
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>>200532544
otto is not dumb enough to actually believe that, he knows how much viserys wanted rhaenyra to ascend.
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>>200532652
>I made a toast for my nephews earlier. I called them Strong. Me and my brother showed them who the real strong men were.
>My uncle had to step in to stop me. He sees me as an equal.
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>>200532753
too skinny
if she was my whore id buy her the most succulent sweetmeats to gorge on
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>>200532523
If they were intermarried in Old Valyria they would not be two separate races now. Your cope is ridiculous.
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this show's target audience is fat millenial women who named their daughter Khaleesi
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>>200532523
yea, the family resemblance is uncanny.......
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>>200532429
>>200532706
thats not from the show by the way, its from some other movie she did
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>>200532840
It doesn’t though
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>>200532233
Maester Orwyle ??
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>>200532233
DAEMON YEEEEEEEEEEES
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>>200525789
Maelys was the last good one, he managed to gather the largest army for blackfyres after the rebellion and was facing the entirety of Westeros
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>>200532233
ofc
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>>200533252
I don’t think he gained any support from Westeros. The third was probably the one that had the most chance of succeeding (apart from the first).
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>>200527675
how it used to look
notice beautiful tapestry on the background instead of gay candles/torches it's done in natural light
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Shiera seastar is a slut
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>>200532404
agree you but
think the reason for large sets is they are easier to film on
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>>200525103
Blackwood fucking shit.
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>>200525061
She looks very ordinary to me. What are you guys seeing here? Is she even a 6?
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>>200532759
Theres more colour yeah, but a lot of the costuming for me just falls a bit flat. Much of it appears more like something out of an early 2000s fantasy series like Merlin. Instead of being a prequel to GoT.

Fuck the kingsguard armour in particular, its generic, boring, and looks like plastic sci-fi gear worn over a coat made out of a waffle towel and steel eyelets.
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>>200529678
so ugly. so miserable. so bitter. so jealous.
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And so he smoked,
And so he toked,
That lord of Kushtamere,
But now the rains vape o'er his hall
With no one there to inhale
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>>200533410
hot
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>>200533082
I can't believe that you fucking tricked me you trickster always pulling pranks I can't fucking believe you've done this
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>>200533543
the only good armor in the show is the gold cloaks
i HATE the KG armor
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>>200528352
jesus he looks weird without hair and beard
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>>200533666
>666
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>>200532523
>“Valyrian” is defined as having heritage from Old Valyria
wtf do you mean by heritage?
you separating show and book canon is extremely convenient.
all the arguments against the stupid change like dragonlords keeping the blood pure through incest and seeking Valyrian LOOKING spouses can be simply swept under "this is not the show canon".
even though the writers can't be bothered to keep their own canon straight.
case in point: the Iron Throne cutting Viserys and not harming Aegon while drunk and leaning on it.
>Jaehaerys II have seemingly been erased
and Velaryons becoming whites 150 years later.
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>>200526793
Reminds me of the big conspiracy theory that the NW allows Craster to go on giving babies to the WW because the babies are all inbred and as such are somehow poisoning the WW
Lmao
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>>200533713
Why is she still wearing her prosthetic teeth for the show?
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>>200525533
Id have anything at this point
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>>200532523
Once again you keep using “muh show canon” as a defense when in reality it’s just a cope. The only reason it was changed was because the show runner is some whiny leftist faggot from Los Angeles who got offended because the og show had too many white people.
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>>200532523
So what you're saying is they made a dumb decision that now requires a headcanon retcon that diminishes the world building...they could've just had Black Trombo, the Black Swan, Sandoq the Shadow, Nettles and even decided to make footnote racially ambiguous characters like Black Bean and Racallio Ryndoon black/brown. With these characters alone they get a feel good racism bad story, a sex icon, the Mountain but good, the last dragon rider, a grey villain and a Magic Johnson with rainbow hair. That's way better than what they will achieve with the race swaps. 7 seasons of diversity? Nah, let's have 4 at best and make it retarded.
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>>200532759
It is definitely better, but I'm not a fan of the clone soldier uniforms as if everything is standardized.
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>>200533956
The hilarious thing is D&D cut literally every black and brown person from GOT and raceswapped 2 characters who were explicitly described as pale af.
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>>200533830
>>200533956
How is making a distinction between show and book canon cope?

>>200534086
I always wrote that it was a dumb decision.
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Daemon will have visions of Rhea Royce The Bronze Beauty Lady of Coomstone while at Harrenhal next episode?
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Be honest who's the most attractive man and who's the most attractive woman. I want honest opinions and not based on team green or team black. Don't care what team you support be honest and choose.
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>>200534086
you know maybe the sheepfuckers are onto something
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>>200533543
We're missing out on emaculate drip.
>>200534190
There's retards defending this btw
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>>200534305
i like how you always ignore my points about CONdal not keeping show canon and Velaryons becoming whites later.
he even added dragons not being able to cross the wall contradicting your precious established show canon yet again.
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>>200534462
Because it’s easily explainable. Velaryons aren’t allowed to do incest so have had to marry white spouses for nearly two centuries (also, when did the Velaryons show up in GOT)? Fire and Blood came out months after the filming of S8 finished so it wasn’t yet established that dragons couldn’t fly past the Wall. And why the Iron Throne doesn’t prick Aegon I don’t know, maybe he’s worthy.
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>>200534377
Hugh Hammer is the most handsome. Young Alicent is the most beautiful
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>>200534421
to be fair when I made that image, I didn't know there were actual child labor laws that actually prevented Blood and Cheese from being done on TV as adapted
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>>200534377
man: jace
woman: young alicent by a country mile
the actor playing criston is actually the most attractive of the cast but the way he plays the character somehow reduces it
t. 26yo man
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are you going to reread the series?
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>>200534758
You do realise that's a cop out, you can still get the kill on camera but let's assume you can't it won't even change much. They already decided to cut Maelor a season ago so they rewrote Blood and Cheese. The omission of the final act showing the death of Jaehaerys wasn't the reason the scene was awful, the entire sequence building up to it was retarded. They could've cut to black during the kill but at long as they stuck to the source material it would've been great. This retarded misdirection tactic from Ryan is pathetic.
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>>200529415
show ur face
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>>200534961
>you will never have a bookworm wife with lowbrow YA tastes
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>>200534993
Condal confirmed Maelor is in the show, Helaena will get pregnant this season.
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>>200529302
lol Cole wrecked Daemon
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>>200529015
They hate Cole and this makes Cole look awesome and the Blacks look cowardly and villainous, so I can't see it happening
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bronze bitch is so cute, I could have saved her bros..
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>>200530895
That was from the old worldbook lore, the new book for the show cut it out and says no one knows what exactly happened.
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>>200534961
literally found her channel 2 days ago
the universe is inside my brain
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>>200534961
i'm rewatching season 8
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>>200534377
man: it's Jace and Cole because they have different vibes, one is pretty and the other one handsome
woman: definitely Alicent, she is a beautiful woman
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>>200535080
So Helaena will somehow go through a 9 month pregnancy and raise a child to the point that he can eat solid food before he gets taken away to the Reach? We're talking years in the show completed in 10 episodes max if they grind the pacing to a halt based on the material they are adapting. Are you really suggesting they're going to insert another timeskip here or is Maelor going to be accompanied with a wet nurse during his escape.
You see how dumb changes come back to bit you in the ass. It was the same with D&D cutting Jeyne Poole since she was irrelevant in the early seasons. That's how we got Sansa taking over the fake Arya plot and the whole rape scene. The ONLY OC writing they should do is "fill in the gap" writing that explains away plot holes and gives characters depth and motivation that's omitted in the source material. No swaps or retcons.
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>>200534086
you sound like you never had sex
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There is a Twitter account of an HBO employee who complains about the leaks and who has emphatically denied some of them. I asked her about this guy being Daeron bastard of Cole and she said she can neither confirm nor deny it. Lmao, if he emphatically denied other leaks but not that one, it means maybe it's real.
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>>200534377
man: Jacaerys
woman: Helaena
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>>200535437
only with my sister
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>>200526021
CGI is easier without contrast
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>>200535474
I think it's real based on how fast Cole's actor mentioned Daeron in a recent interview
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Objectively speaking what the fuck is wrong with Alicent’s kids? Did Viserys not hug them enough?
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>>200529015
Westerling is going to kill him, zero explanation of where he went the entire show or even worse, they'll merge him with other characters and have him lead Riverlands armies against his own family.
>>200535437
>oh you don't approve of retarded writing, you must be an incel
You guys are so pathetic.
>>200535474
You know what, fuck it, I want it to be true just so that I can laugh.
>>200535645
Link
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>>200532633
They cheaped out on some stuff. Some armours look very bad. Is chainmail really that expensive?
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>>200535655
>Objectively speaking what the fuck is wrong with Alicent’s kids?
1. No father figure, mother is a neurotic warden who never taught them anything
2. raised knowing they'll one day go to war against their relatives
3. Targ genes, being a lunatic is always a likelihood
more specifically
>Aegon has 0 selfesteem due to being the first Targaryen eldest son to be passed over in favor of a sister, ignored by everyone until he became post-war Robert Baratheon
>Aemond is the biggest grudgebearer in Westeros and having his eye cut out taught him that it's him against the world
>Helena just has down's syndrome
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>>200535727
>Link
https://youtu.be/lE3D3SUXLSw?

There was a question to name all of Viserys kids and Fabien was fast on Daeron name compared to other answers he gave
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>>200525953
best comment ive read today
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>>200535419
The worst thing about Sansa's rape scene isn't even the rape itself but the writers make her out to be an absolute retard during the whole scene which it makes it hard to feel bad for her. Like, she's honestly surprised that her husband would actually want to have sex with her on their wedding night. Then she spends the rest of the series bitching about how Ramsay treated her yet she clearly had no lasting injuries to her body. Everything about Sansa Season 5 and onwards is the worst writing imaginable
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>>200530231
...how and why did they marry
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>>200534305
Because your reasoning for the distinctions are cope, the show runners made it clear why the made the change and it was for DEI purposes.
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>>200534961
would wife/10
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>>200536574
She's slept with 8 men
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>>200536746
hot
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>>200530738

Aemond really is just an animu boy irl. He deserves his own shonen series.
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>>200536912
Ew



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