One time I got into an argument with a Twitter user who says the reason why there is "wokeness" in movies is because billionaires get off to seeing it in movies. Who are these billionaires that get off to seeing lesbians in movies?
Someone like klaus schwab.
>>214506526the reason for pozzed shit aka wokeness is to create racial and gender divisions so that we fight each other instead of the wealthy elites. The more divided we are the easier we are to control
>>214506526>lesbiandRight. Because there are so many lesbians in movies.
>>214506526go back
>>214507432This. Most LGBT woke applies only to /tv/ shows. Woke in movies is mostly race/feminist-based. I sometimes wonder if all those people crying about woke every single day on this board even watch anything.
>>214506526Why would a brown Milhouse be called Brownhouse? It's not like regular Milhouse is called Whitehouse.
>>214506526You lost an argument on Twiiter so you can him here to have the same argument in the hopes you win this time. Total chud.
>>214507777Regular Millhouse would be called Yellowhouse
>>214506526It's not "wokeness", it's progress. Sorry you don't like it. It's funny all the conspiracy theories you come up with to "explain it". It's just what most people want. Only incel chuds have an issue. That must be you.
>>214509157Chopping your dick off is progress sweetie.
>>214506526billionaires dont watch movies so the xitter tranny is a retard
>>214509175I don't agree with that one at all. I think those people are pretty confused. They really don't feature dick chopping scenes in these "woke" movies, do they?Not everyone left of center agrees with the trans movement. Most don't.
>>214506526Most billionaires are boomers who believe in some kind of liberal progressive narrative. It's not about lesbians specifically but that they're helping society to 'progress' which means increasing tolerance and personal freedom. They're not comically evil, just deluded. Their vision of the future is literally Star Trek. They're blind to the inherent problems in that kind of society as a goal.
>>214506526Obviously nobody likes DEI except a handful of mutants. It doesn't make money or benefit the people who make it. So any 'it's le capitalism' type argument fails. It's just ideological fanaticism. Which is something that rarely makes rational 'sense.'
>>214509341Oh, like your plan where we have what, segregation again? Or send everyone back to their country of origin, going back just the last 2 or 3 generations, anything that doesn't affect you. You really think TV and movies will EVER fucking have a message that racism is "based" and cool and and god is good and women should stay home and make babies? lol, never gonna fucking happen. Dream on. Go watch an old western. There is a little of the world you pine for in a few older movies. But that's never going to be in fashion again. Especially blatant racism and jew hating and whatever else schizo shit you're into online that you forget polite society isn't into.
>>214509341A society without bigotry and greed and need for material possessions? What are these inherent problems, besides the fact that stupid people and greedy people will always exist?
>>214509217You can't call yourself a leftist while being a hateful bigot who refuses to support human rights.
>>214509074>can himSAARS!!orZOOMBIE!!
>>214509217> Most don't.Bull shit. A leftist who 'doesn't agree' with trannyism is JK Rowling, and all the other leftists turn on them.The only place you "don't agree" with it is on 4chan. Try "not agreeing" with it publicly to a bunch of leftists and see what happens. To be in the left you have to follow the party line on every single one of a thousand different points. If you deviate on one you get thrown out and treated like a nazi. This is why they killed Charlie Kirk instead of an actual far rightist. To them, every single person who disagrees with one single point is basically equally 'fascist.'>>214509398NTA but yes that is absolutely on the table. People are sick of the Prog version of the world and it is starting to unwind.
>>214509426It requires some kind of base philosophy accepted by everyone which allows for tolerance and personal freedom. But many worldviews don't regard these as highly. It leads to the vilification and rejection of systems that foreign cultures might have chosen autonomously. Highly religious communities or societies that tend towards illiberal authoritarianism heavily restrict personal freedom. The Star Trek utopia contains within it a kernel of intolerance towards the diverse ways of organizing society that have populated most of human history. >>214509398I'm not advocating for racism or the removal of women's rights. We can keep those things without deluding ourselves that there's some kind of "progression" to society. Things just change and adapt.
>>214506526Woke just Marxism applied to race rather economics since commie bullshit never caught in America >bbbbut rich people wouldn’t promote MarxismThey are the only people who support it since it gives them unlimited power
>>214509157>It's not "wokeness", it's progressMore like "fake progress" considering that we are literally one economic recession from going back to the days of actual slavery and women becoming ornaments again
>>214509639You're confused and angry. The fact is that trannies are nowhere to be found in Hollywood movies. The only big one I can think of is Barbie and that was made by a woman with indie cinema background.
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>>214509639No one is 100% in agreement with "their side". The world is a huge grey area. Most republicans don't offer anything for me because I'm in the 99% and I don't hate non whites. Being against MAGA doesn't mean I'm a far left extremist. It just means I'm sensible. None of that is on any real table. Just in your fantasies. America will not be tearing itself apart anytime soon. We need everyone to work and be just happy enough not to go crazy. People are going crazy, but I blame internet and the 1%, not fucking liberal policies. What people will not be doing is organizing and really fucking anything up in a major way. Homeless people are drunk or high and you people are too comfy sponging off of mom or whoever houses you. No one is forming groups to go kill "leftists". LOLOL
>>214509685kek, I don't know how you figure that. You spend too much time online.
>>214509217I think the standard left position is that bodily autonomy should be respected and that includes the right to medically transition. It gets more complex when it comes to women's sports and the like though.
>>214509157>it's progress.Towards what?>It's just what most people want.Clearly not, considering they keep flopping, and they have to shove shit into preexisting IP's people ALREADY like just to "trick" people into consuming it at all.
>>214509217>Most don't.You LITERALLY get excised, shamed & cast-out by the rest of the Left if you even question trannyism. See: Queen SJW herself, JK Rowling.
>>214509866To be fair, Rowling did a lot more than simply questioning trannyism.
>>214509833The "standard left position" is "you will use my pronouns and suck my girl-dick in public and teach your children to do the same or we will KILL YOU" at this point.
>>214509833I sort of agree. Women's sports and minors transitioning. I'm REALLY against that shit where the kid can confide in a teacher against the parents' knowledge or wishes and start transitioning in private. That shit is fucked up and the progressive euro countries backed that shit up already. America went too far allowing the FAR* left to dictate and bully and the dems didn't shut them down and look where it got us. I'm a rational person. I'm down with gays and lesbos and trannies I guess if they're adults. But I still think there are TWO genders and men cannot get pregnant.I'm not running for office and I don't have social media. I don't need to walk lockstep with anyone for fear of any backlash. Most people are like me. Every other lefty I know is really more of a centrist who isn't for extremes. I voted Bush in 2000 and supported McCain before Palin entered in. But most of the right and their religious family values bullshit (yes, those guys are perverts behind closed doors) doesn't fly with me.
>>214509851>they keep floppingThey barely make anything new. And like I said, what gays and lesbians? In what films? Pixar and Disney tried it, but those were literally just two movies.
>>214509833Bodily autonomy does not supercede mental autonomy which makes people not acknowledge a man who got his dick cut off as a woman. It doesn't supercede the law either, so if the law says that frauds who promise you that you will become a woman if they let you cut your dick off go to jail for fraud, regardless of if you believe the scam or not, those fucking kikes must go to jail.
>>214509880Oh, yeah, she also said "Men don't have periods". Literally Adolf Hitler II!Fuck off.
>>214509829people are already freaking out about "le orange man" and (insert wherever current bullshit is popular at the moment)and yet, we still haven't really face any real economical disaster, if you think americans are going to wake up one day and pay $100 for their burgers then you are in for rough wakening
>>214509897Nope, and it never has been. You're choosing to see the extremes as the entire left again. No one is falling for that.
>we've got ACTUAL Prog-Zombie trannies who drank the Kool-Aid ITT defending wokeshit
>>214509851Yet these rightwing movies with Kirk Cameron and Kevin Sorbo aren't even on the fucking radar. Let's see this big "nonwoke" hollywood blockbuster with an all white cast. They love money in hollywood. I'm sure if your aryan white power movie would generate a profit they would make it. lol
>>214507455I dont, because its all too woke
>>214509920And slavery and women losing rights will come of this how exactly? Do you know how laws work?
>>214509921>if I keep lying people will surely believe meThere is reason why Trump wonAnd that's people are simply tired of your crap
>>214509973Find a new hobby and post on that board then. Bitching that movies be woke now will get you no happiness and it certainly changes nothing. Just go back to /pol/
>>214509999Yeah, Trump's HUGE win. lmao
>>214509921>You're choosing to see the extremes as the entire left again.The entire Left IS extreme.Chopping your dick off, hating White people and taking your money to pay for medical insurance for Illegal Aliens are their literal mainstream positions now.An innocent man was literally murdered in front of his wife & child this week and Leftists have been gleefully celebrating it like a bunch of rabid Rhesus Macaques simply because he opposed their insane beliefs.Your party has gone off the deep-end.
>>214510016What party? What are you talking about?
>>214509955>Yet these rightwing movies with Kirk Cameron and Kevin Sorbo aren't even on the fucking radar.They they get zero budget, promotion and go straight-to-video?>Let's see this big "nonwoke" hollywood blockbuster with an all white cast.Yes? Please. There were countless movies like that that made absolute bank in the past, and it would work again.Which made more money? Frozen, or the "highly diverse" WISH?>They love money in hollywood.Apparently not, considering they throw it away all the time.
>>214509978>Do you know how laws work?You pay armed thugs to enforce themThe problem is when you don't have enough money to pay, or when the system is broken beyond repair so it doesn't matter how much you pay them.
>>214510016I JUST FUCKING SAID I don't agree with chopping your dick off. And all of my friends are the same. Are you just telling me that we are ALL extremist antifa lesbians because you want us to be? Because you look at twitter extremists? Go to a blue state and talk to the hippies there. They aren't fucking into the 10 year old trannies and rainbow dildos in elementary schools. You know NOTHING of what happens on the local level at PTA meetings and shit. The right wants to ban books. The left doesn't do that. Fuck off, you're not smart enough to know whats happening and you just want to radicalize anyone who isn't. And most are NOT.
>>214509899Every teppid leftist I know doesn't believe in anything, they just carefully say they agree with everything that was decided by educated people w.r.t. how to run society, humane morals, that they're against populist sentiment and that everyone should do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone. You can't point out how any of this may be self-contradictory or take a challenging position to any of it, because the "typical sane center-left" has no real convictions and is just trying to avoid getting in trouble, while at the same time wants to sustain the illusion of good vibes and social acceptance with his out-groups. It's a fundamental failing of democracy as a whole, really, it seeks to involve people in political struggles that have absolutely no place in it other than as points on a scoreboard for "your team".
>>214510039Right, because you see the profits as fake just like the bombs are tax grabs somehow. It's all a corrupt scheme to make or lose money, depending on how it serves your schizo argument. If it will make money they will make it.
>>214510001>STOP COMPLAINING AND JUST CONSUME THE WOKESLOPLol, no. Get mad about it, Troonfreak.
>>214510046Ah, so you think the whole system is gonna collapse and roving bands of thugs who want rape for dinner will just reinstate slavery because all the cops will quit and go home. I suppose you'll be leader of these camps and fuck all the women slaves. LOLOL
>>214510039You know what else was diverse? Inside Out 2. It made a lot of money. What about Lilo & Stitch remake, no whites there. Made one billion.
>>214510011I don't understand what that picture is trying to proofMob rule is an absolute horrible way to rule a nation, do you really want the US to become a banana republic
I'm no billionaire but I love dyke movies. This one's even very jewish and I still like it.
>>214510090>we have to shove Wokeshit into originally non-woke properties to trick people into consuming themAnd both of those movies had trannies like you complaining that they REMOVED the woke, retard.Not the flex you think it is, Cock-Chopper.
>>214510055And the alternative is embracing destruction and antiquated thinking? What are you saying when you suggest the left is so impotent and misguided? Leftist ideas are more popular if you ask people things one at a time and explain it in terms they understand. If you can make "socialism" and "unions" bad words amongst poor people, those people need to be educated better. The 1% is worried about losing its grip, but they shouldn't be. They'll always have dumb poor people voting against their economic best interests if they can be convinced brown people will take their jobs or money or fags will be the downfall of society.
>>214510088>because all the cops will quit and go home.Yes, see Hurricane Katrina for Exhibit A
>>214509909>Bodily autonomy does not supercede mental autonomyThese aren't even the same thing. Your right to take estrogen doesn't mean someone else can't disagree with that lifestyle choice. You're free to disagree with the validity of transitioning but not to discriminate against them in certain contexts and that seems fine to me.
>>214510137kms
>>214510011>gay fake numbers for copingDon't care.If you want to run the country than run a candidate with a platform that doesn't repulse people, troon.
>>214509685>if you make one more movie with black people in it then i will make niggers slaves again! Lmfao two more weeks eh
>>214510114The words on the picture *prove* that Trump is unpopular with the MAJORITY of America. To the tune of two thirds of us. What does "mob rule" have to do with anything? There's no mob right now big enough and with any goals to change anything or even destroy anything. Looting some stores? Blame the 1%, not the color of the looters' skin.
>>214510155>They'll always have dumb poor people voting against their economic best interests if they can be convinced brown people will take their jobs or money or fags will be the downfall of society.>be american>vote for republicans>get fucked>vote for democrats>get fuckedAmerica needs a 3rd party urgently
>>214510158Act of god, huh? Well we just need dozens of them all over the nation and then you can take over and plunder the countryside.
They get off on humiliating you and making you pay for the privilege of being humiliated
>>214510183Troon? Me? You can't even properly argue. You clearly can't make a case for Trump's "popularity". Those rallies were tiny like his hands and cock.
>>214510158Ah yes i remember when slavery was reinstated in New Orleans and people started using women as hood ornaments
>>214510171>Your right to take estrogenThere are millions of people who don't believe that to be a right, and want authorities to ban transgenderism entirely.
>>214510208>vote for democrats>get *slightly less* fucked and sleep better at nightAnd that's just normally. In the age of Trump even real republicans are famously not on board. He's just going against the principals of America at this point.
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>>214510154Post some examples.
>>214510204>Trump is unpopular with the MAJORITY of America. To the tune of two thirds of us.>NOOOOO TRUMP HAS MORE DISLIKES THAT LIKES HE CHEATED!! REEEEEEEE!!lmao
>bbchouse
I wish I could find a less lopsided forum. This place is majority chuds and leftypol is majority lefties but hardcore Marxist shit. They're smarter than here, but neither place is good for debate for me. There's hardly anyone smart to oppose me here.
>>214510335I know the perfect place for you
>>214510304He cheated at what? He was elected fair and square (just as he lost fair and square in 2020) but it wasn't a landslide. He barely won because Harris was a woman and the Israel Palestine thing. Perfect storm for him really. And he's very unpopular right now. His "high" approval rating is only high for him. Compared to other presidents it's fucking low. You can be against the left and also against Trump. Many are. You pretend they don't exist or aren't important, even though it includes Bush and Cheney and Romney and Christie and so many others.
>>214510335Try a different board. /tv/ is naturally retarded because any idiot can watch a movie. There's no opinion filter like on boards that require some amount of knowledge or skill to post.
>>214510362As long as there's no censorship and I don't need an account send me there. I'd love to see it.
>>214506526>Who are these billionairesLarry Fink, CEO of Blackrock
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>>214510388I'm usually on based /mlp/ but we're suffering over there as well.
>>214510269>get *slightly less* fuckedNice party's motto
>>214510388>/tv/ is naturally retarded because any idiot can watch a movie.That's the problem, most people here don't seem to watch movies.
>>214510388I have to try other boards all the time. I'm probably going to be banned for some post in this thread. They make these honeypot threads of politics and then ban the lefties for "off-topic". It's a tactic I disagree with but always fall for. The janitors (when they're here) side with the chuds. They removed some "off-topic" political threads before they even removed the hardcore porn threads this morning.
>>214510155If you make friends with right wingers they'll even confess to having their share of problems with capitalism and the ultra rich.It's very obvious that the majority would be leftists today if they didn't feel maligned by social justice types.
>>214509157It is a conspiracy its not a theory. We have evidence (including direct publicly accessible quotes from the perpetrators)
>>214510442It's hilariously sad that /film/ has its own dedicated thread and isn't just the entire board
>>214510450They are maligned because they want to use violence against people for their gender expression and sexual behaviour.
>>214510428Hey, I don't love the dems either. But they've always been the lesser of two evils for the lower and middle classes. And I'm a tolerant person with progressive values for the most part. But there's way too much far left shit that I'm not on board for. The pronoun stuff and minors transitioning stuff is a major turnoff. They need to not even introduce sex discussion to young children.But nothing could ever justify voting for a crook like Trump. That's why so many just didn't vote. They couldn't in good conscience elect Harris OR Trump. And I couldn't in good conscience not fight Trump with my vote. So I held my nose and voted for Harris as I did Hilary. For the good of democracy. At least we concede when we lose. The whole idea of honor and tradition and even rules went out the door with Trump and that has been sad for America.
>>214510442Why would anybody want to watch the modern wokeslopAnything made in the last 10 years is virtually unwatchable
>>214510450>It's very obvious that the majority would be leftists today if they didn't feel maligned by social justice types.youre wrong, but i dont mind you thinking that and having the left fight amongst itself.
>>214510450This. I know plenty of people on both sides. None of them are extreme antifa lefties or militia antivax righties. Like 90% of all of us are in the centerish on most common sense shit. I don't think ALL rightwingers are toothless trailer hicks. But that's their posterboy like the blue haired lesbo is ours I guess. It's all bullshit. Online EVERYTHING is bullshit. I don't think most of the people who post here go outside or have friends or family. Speaking of all that, I'm done with this discussion. There have surprisingly been a couple decent posts from non liberals. That's almost never the case. I enjoyed the discussion. I'm expecting to be banned when I come back tomorrow though. I vowed if I get a janitor position I will not be biased but just keep the rules enforced. I'm sure I won't get picked though. That would make too much sense.
>>214510532Because if you watched it you would realize that the premise of this thread is wrong. There aren't many lesbians in big budget Hollywood movies.
>>214510603any woman doing what a man should be doing is technically a lesbian.
>>214510540He's right. Most people in the 99% don't benefit from any GOP economic policies. They're solely in it for social war shit. You choose to believe you're better off financially under republicans but it's never the case. You just believe lies. That's the major problem in the world now is disinformation. The entire right is run on lies and fake news, and they say the same of the left. Now the president is trying to actually jail journalists and silence dissenters. That's some 1984 shit. Nothing at all like moderating forums, which is as far as the left took "censorship". Private companies can do what they want. You can't shut down the free press for reporting facts you don't liek ttho
>>214506526Lesbians are the least of modern media's problems.
>>214510671And that's a good thing
>>214510981Yeah, all of the "wokeness" stuff is nothing compared to the lack of fresh ideas.
>>214511011None of that is very good. It's just the truth.
>>214511034You fail to realize the moment. That liberal libertarian shit from 2012 is no longer relevant.
>>214511087You can convince yourself in your little bubble that we're at some huge crossroads and some kraken has been unleashed and the "reckoning" is coming for the left, but it's not happening. This "moment" is overblown and entirely online posturing. Nothing ever happens. The nation is secure. The 1% need the economy working so they can fucking RAPE it. And you're on their side for some reason. Still hoping it'll trickle down? kek
>>214511170owning libs is more important than money when you don't have any to begin with
>>214511170A few minutes ago we were in 1984, but now nothing ever happens. Not only do you not know where we are, you can't even be honest about it. My life and prospects are just fine. Sounds like you're the one with the problem.
>>214511216Nothing ever happens in the realm of your liberal reckoning, face the wall, get the rope fantasies.Trump and Project 2025 shit IS happening. You can pretend online you think it's good stuff, but deep down if you have a brain you don't think it's good for democracy. Unless you can convince yourself that the only way to keep America from total destruction or "degeneracy" or some shit is by changing the rules and cheating and just keeping power by force and occupying cities and postponing elections and eliminating mail in voting and redistricting and all sorts of other shit that isn't in the rulebook. I'm seeing a lot of that kind of thinking right now. People opposing logical thinking because of party lines. Even republicans want RFK the fuck out. You've got Mike Johnson telling blue cities to just lay down and let the Guard drive tanks around cities.... That's fucking TREADING ON US. The militia anti-government fuckers have been waiting for this and now that it's happening they feel obligated to support it because MAGA. Sad as fuck.
>>214511317I know it isn't good for democracy. Refer to my earlier post >>214511011
>>214506526It's very likely, jews own hollyw**d (confirmed by the jewish actress of the mummy) and they enjoy screwing the western civilization
it's because the movie industry tanked in the late 2000s to 2010s and movies were unironically getting stale. woke rage bait revitalised interest in movies.
