Arthouse & ClassicsMishima edition>/film/ community newsPierre anon finished his new translation of Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters.More info here and in the posts following it:>>216009320>Question of the DayWhich Japanese person would you most like to see a great biopic about?Previous: >>216015338
Queen of /film/
>>216009320is there an srt file available?
>>216019301How long are you going to shill this mishima shit before you realise no one gives a fuck you faggot
>>216019353Kill yourself.
>>216019353It will continue.
>>216019366You got 3 replies and one of them was your own. Nobody cares about your massive waste of time.
Psychopath of /film/>>>/wsg/6031751
lil bro out for blood
>>216019377Not him, faggot.
>>216019394We don’t sign our posts here, faggot.
>>216019388I want to send a pic of my dick, but I would have to close my browser to do so. Such a sad day for /film/
A film with subtitles is a failed film.
faggot.t. faggot
>>216019409Gadonpaki already gave us more than we deserved.
>>216019436I'm well endowed and psychotic; don't try me, bitch.Maybe I could even send a tribute with all the waifus in it.
translationjeet really expected the entire thread to be like CONGRATULATIONs lmfao no one gaf :skull:
>>216019458
Just picked up the new Strange Circus Blu-ray to replace my old DVD copy. It's Sono kino time.
>>216019478Yeah I'm gone apeshtiimagine putting it in her diseaseforcefullygood shitthen some feet suckinghmmmyummy
Shiton Shitno is peak thing: japaneseAbsolute garbage that troons are obsessed with because they want to turn into one of the jap teenage girls he weinsteind
Pierre anon, do you have a side by side version of your translations, the criterion and the original japanese like the excerpt you posted here >>216017150 I want to compare them.
I care about the translation, thanks.
>>216019524No one asked, Lloyd
>>216016673is there an srt file, that seems like the most sensible way to share this
>>216019458wakanda forever!
>>216019578Begging ya to stop samefagging to drum up interest for this shit. Go do something more valuable with your life.
>>216019620i'm not samefagging, i would genuinely like an SRT file to try out. it's either that or i rewatch an american tail
Fievel ahh niggas itt
>>216019388He do be like that
>I'm not a fag, I just experimented. If I go running once, that makes me a runner? No. Well, this is the same. Did I suck a dick? Yes. Did I let myself get fucked? Yes. But that was the first and last time. I'm heterosexual. I'm ------.New dialogue for my upcoming film. Check it when it's out!
Another change from the theatrical cut to the Criterion version - the former has a fade from Mishima writing at his desk to the 'box room' scene that starts the last third of the Runaway Horses segment, the scene where the walls collapse away the the police rush in. Transition that suggests the scene as taking place inside his head. In the Criterion version, it's a hard cut and the timing's different again as a result.>>216019402I do.>>216019508I'm planning to make a subtitle file with the translations combined for side-by-side comparison, yes, it'll go up with the translation notes when I put it all on Soulseek.>>216019578Ditto for separate subtitle files, I know some people will have the film downloaded already. Focused on getting the translation notes finished before anything else or I'll have a bunch of half-finished shit.
>>216019301>Question of the DayNone. Japanese people are not interesting.
>>216019701ROARING
>>216019301That cannibal nigga unironically. Also, Maria Nagai.
>>216019353My translation of Carax's "Ambiguities" got 450,000 views on Youtube before being taken down for nudity and Amy Taubin from Village Voice/Sight & Sound did a podcast segment on it.
>>216019713>it's finished...>now i just have to finish the translation notes before i can upload it!!!incredible stuff
>>216019779Isn't nudity allowed if you set the video with age-restriction?
>>216019779Sent that freak flying.
>>216019713Didn't Mega have a download limit? I don't think I can download it, you might as well post the srt subs soon.
>>216019666Fievel Is Glauque>>216019770There's a Herzogian doc about him but I haven't seen it
Gonna watch that translation only when someone posts the srt here.
>>216019868It's called Caniba
>>216019779They watched it for the titties lil bro.
>>216019183Thanks fren :)
Three films a day. Such is life!
>>216019301>Which Japanese person would you most like to see a great biopic about?Sion Sono
MasterChef with Issei Sagawa (dir. Herzog).
Finna bestow Kinskibro with the title Harembro because he be posting a bunch of hoes. The previous Harembro is rechristened Exilebro. >>216019920Based Harembro.
>>216019920Her son looks like a 90s R&B singer
Reygadas? More like Cuckygadas
>>216019962Eyo she got Quincied????? Lil Marties …….
Very vivacious
>>216019920>>216019962are there any classical actresses who aren't coalburners?
>>216019979Have respect. Oreo general. All our wifes, oreos here. This is our culture.
>>216019183Bigger than life? Got it, thanks.
>>216019301>Which Japanese person would you most like to see a great biopic about?John Woo
>>216019979>>216020000He’s adopted. She didn’t get Oreo’d.
Nothing pleases you little bitches, does it?>>216019803The translation is finished and I've shared it here via Mega so that /film/ get to experience it first, the bells and whistles will go up when I share it more permanently on Soulseek where I host my rare vinyl needledrops and other rarities. Nobody likes a pedant.>>216019883This is what I have but since I cut in the Runaway Horses footage from the DVD in the video file I shared, I haven't tested whether the timings need adjusting to fit the Criterion, the timings might be fucked in the last quarter (or throughout, I did it in Resolve), hence why I said I ain't ready to share the bells and whistles yet: https://mega.nz/file/2hARALpY#nXOE9LObhpz2dASlUqOncvTwfeDg57Bysr7ySO296Io
just drop the srt translationbitch no one cares about allat waffle
>>216019804No clue. Someone called 'squirt reynolds' uploaded it there, it was reshared from my Soulseek shares.>>216019916I'm likely older than you.
Paul Schrader is /film/
>>216020100Linked the subtitle file literally in the post above you, slowpoke faggot
>>216020129See? You can write in short sentences, bitch ahh slave. You not Him lil bro you not a celebrity. Keep it brief no one care about you. You just a yapping srt file. Dispense da yapping
Joel Haver is an auteur. He made 12 films in a year.
>>216019779That one was a good thing, this Mishima one seems pointless.
>>216020083Good
>>216020197This. It's just the same retarded autists not being able to into localization thing over and over again. It does not matter what exactly they said, what matters was Schrader's intent for the audience to think they said.
>>216019967Basedgadas you mean.>>216020009Directed by Nick Ray, yes.>>216020066Factual.>>216020100>translationbitchBit rude of you.>>216020167Can't wait for the inevitable Criterion box of 'The Haver Dodecalogy'
>>216020253post a waifu with your post lil bro i need to identify you so i can say "based ___bro". based bigger than life bro....
>>216018152This but James Benning.
>>216019301>QODOtoya.
>>216019868>Fievel Is GlauqueBased.
>>216020083The timings are indeed fucked in the last quarter. This is useless to me. Gonna watch this only when a working srt file is posted here.
ten skies by james benning
>>216020362Based. Lil bro got so excited to harvest (You)s he dropped unfinished shit. Blud is the Ubisoft of /film/
>>216019779>Amy Taubin from Doctor Selavy's Magic Theatre did a podcast segment on it.Undeniably based, anon.
>>216020239Correct
>>216019779But why Schrader's film? Better to promote the stuff Mishima or Japan made on him like Conflagration. Jus cos he cast big stars doesn't mean it's a stilted, disjointed stagey thing banking on production design and isolated ideas/moments like flashcards. Nothing meaningful was said other than reenactment of cliff notes or coffee table book type of Mishima primer. Like his ultra-nationalism is presented from a distance, nothing about how it compensates or solves his sense of being the other, with letting him be part of mainstream in the company of other men, and if this changed anything other than some cultish power fantasy
One of the stories in the movie hasn't been translated into English yet and rather than doing that and being a savior he just transliterated the movie...
you guys are dragging this for too long, too boring for such a capable person like me
>>216020512sybau timlet
sex with harper.
>>216020239This one goes a bit further than localisation. Entire sections of narration talk about different subjects to the Japanese-language script. Schrader was directing by proxy to the extent he demonstrably doesn't even know what his cast are saying, I'll give a concrete example. In the director's commentary, he says there's a moment during the interrogation in Runaway Horses where the actor looks up to get a cue from one of the crew members, and he had to insert a scream in the background audio to make it look like he's reacting or something. Except that isn't what he's doing at all, it occurs during the clause "あそこで俺と", "over there", and the actor is nodding into the middle distance to gesture that the university dojo is "somewhere over there", in the vicinity of the prison (the line is "We could have been having a pleasant kendo match over there"). He also insists Criterion digitally recolour the cliff scene at the end of Runaway Horses a pleasing shit-bronze to try and make it look like the sun's about to come up, whereas if he read the freaking book as he said he did and remembered it, he'd have remembered that it's precisely the point that Iinuma comes out to the clifftop to find there is no sparkling sea or rising sun waiting for him to sacrifice himself in a picture-perfect scene, he has to commit seppuku anyway, and as he does so, the vision of the rising sun blazes before his eyes in his death agony - it's Mishima doing an 'ideal triumphing over the material' thing, the strength of Iinuma's noble patriotic sentiment is so great it's rewarded in the world of the novel by the transformation of his experience into one that transcends meagre reality.
What's the best technicolor film?
>>216020715Not this garbage.
>>216020715The Quiet Man by John Ford No haha I'm just kidding
>>216020715This one.
>>216020715Probably some western.
>>216020715flyin dutchman wit hot bitch ava gardner
>>216020762muh dik
>>216020632That's what the theatrical version depicts and Schrader seems to have forgotten the visual storytelling of his own movie in the decades that have elapsed since. It's him doing a bad Ridley Scott. It's major deconstruction of auteur theory time. Me doing this translation is less about figuring Paul Schrader's artistic intent and more about figuring Chieko Schrader's artistic intent since she wrote the words that are coming out of the actors' mouths and to date English-language viewers have never gotten even an approximation of the experience of what it is she is having them say because it's been plastered over with some yankified business about "fragile plants" and whathaveyou. People call the movie "directed and written by Paul Schrader" when he didn't even write what the actors are saying. Yeehaw.
>>216020715the best lensed technicolor film? broken arrow. the best technicolor film? probably dodge city
>>216020806good joint
When did this general get taken over by Gen Alphas? Most of you talk like illiterate primary school children now compared to even just three years ago when I posted "Pierre.">>216020412I actually agree with you in a lot of ways, the film's only useful as a first introduction to Mishima for westerners, it's not any kind of an in-depth look and Ogata is unfortunately miscast, but it's a decent cult classic all the same. I haven't seen Conflagration and would like to. Part of why I felt Chieko Schrader's script deserved an English translation is I feel it digs below the cultish power fantasy, which the official English subs does not do. Chieko Schrader's script focuses more on the discontinuity between Mishima's inner world and his outer world, his drives vs. the time and place he was born into, more precisely his attempts to enforce his own agency after an upbringing that has denied him just that and getting sidetracked deeper and deeper into writing himself into a suicidal intellectual corner that climaxes in a triumph of art over humanity and finally, the death of the Japan Mishima idolised in tandem with himself, leaving only the rising sun as the symbol of a mysterious divine absolute, something like a Bataillean continuity as described in his last voiceover monologue. The official English subs just focus on him as this self-made 'great artist' muscleman /lit/ like to fawn over.
>>215982571I was unable to comment on this post before it was archived, but I also love movies -- both new and old, and it makes me very happy that I have a watchlist with 700 movies on it, that is so much entertainment just a small effort away. Just feels good. I think I've learned more from watching movies than from life itself
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>>216020872what is unc waffling about lmaooo SIX SEVEN. pewdiepie was our introduction to Mishima btw
>>216020083Don’t let the trolls get to you man.
>>216020083>>216020872stop bitching
>>216020715The Love Witch
>>216020903Kek.
>>216020903Laughed out loud
>>216020966Hey man nice get
>>216020903forced reddit meme
>>216021049seethe unc
Resident schizoids absolutely can’t handle someone taking their precious (you) away from them without going into total meltdown mode. These threads have reached a new low.
>>216020715carmen comes home 1951
>>216021079uhhhshe's chinese
Most of us just don't care about Schraeder's Mishima, not to that point at least, that's all.
>most of usliterally who are you LMAO
>>216021049eat ts glizzy bruh
>>216021089Trvke. The movie is garbage, a complete mischaracterization of the writer. I'll never watch it more than once.
>>216021109Define "you"
>>216021141I won't
We're all getting philosophical here.
MAMA DON'T GOOOOOOOOOOODaddy come home
>>216021181Define "I"
>>216021109A /film/ poster.
>>216021232Prove it.
>>216021194For me, it's Well Well Well
>Yoji Yamada is stil alive and is still making filmswhat the fuck
>>216021283Japs live long. See Kaneto Shindo.
you have seen Mishima's very own short film, Patriotism, right? Its an adaptation of one of his short stories and he plays the main character.It was made in secret from the public and once finished he still hid it from the Japanese because he thought they would think "Oh, there we go, another of Mishima's pranks/ provocations." so instead he wanted it show to a western audience first which happened and the movie was well received in the western showrings. (altho the first time the movie was show in the west which was in France, a third of the audience was Japanese)One can easily interpret this film as a sort of test run for his seppuku. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO-w-cn-pJM&t=745s
>>216020123Truth status?[X] RUTH[ ] Not RuthSchrigga /film/ 4 lyfe
>>216021340I love you Kinskibro. Never let the bullies get you down!
I care about Mishima and I care about the translation, enough shitposting. Thanks Pierre guy
>>216015756>57 replies for an arthouse hybrid-doc winner of fucking Rotterdam Film Festival of all places>on /tv/i guess it's because it's /pol/ adjacent thematically, but that's still crazy
>>216021462Why does everyone on this board outside of this general have terrible taste? /lit/ is full of idiots and clowns but it's nowhere as bad in that sense.
>>216021490cinema is like Solider from TF2low skill floor but high skill ceiling
>>216021490They're all unironically gen alphas or late gen x wizards. You got Chrischan type niggas running every board via /pol/ CIA grooming victims; also Cyraxx type niggas too, legit diaper enthusiasts in this hoe. Sad!
>>216021516Chris Chan type niggas and diaper enthusiasts are /film/ target audience thoaverage /tv/ anon is just a millenial normalfag dudebro who got on 4chan because he liked tranime when it wasn't still as mainstream as it is now
Bullshit, I might be a zoomer but Im a 70s tier freak
>>216021385anyway, what are we thinking about the newest list from secretly /ourguy/ Critical Drinker??
>>216021545I mean, the chuds seem to have those Cyraxx, Boogie2988 type lives, but Idk.
>>216021089only kinskifag
The truth is that unless you are a native Japanese speaker you will never understand the artistry of Mishima's writing or Sono's filmmaking.
>>216021702No one cares about Shiton AGPo.
Someone's cranky today. He need sum milk!
gotta learn korean, I grow weary of subtitles...
>>216021702>muh beloved japssuck my dick stupid worthless nigger go take a bath on semen
>>216021879See: >>216019418
>>216022128Projection
Why did /film/ get so fast earlier? Newfag influx?
>>216022274POV: you did cocaine.
>>216022274>saves /film/
>>216022274i was posting a bunch
>>216022274Schizo melty
>>216022274Cocaine
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O6yeLNNVa4A
>>216020715The Red Shoes and it's not close
>>216022664ICICLES WITHIN MY BRAIN
Mishima was a bit of a faggot no? And not just in the homosexual sense. Why do people place importance in the actions of delusional schizos. Just because he had eccentric ideas and was stupid enough to carry them out doesn't make him interesting and warrant multiple films.
>>216022803Well, he was a retarded faggot in a sense, but he at least had balls and that separates him from 90% of humanity. Serial killers do too, and they fascinate us because they're basically different from everyone else, but still, at the end of the day they're just no self control retards who are (sometimes) hot to mentally ill bitches.
>>216022803Someone post that interview between him and Terayama, they say some cool things to each other.
Watch kinos will you can. Once you get a job is hard to find time to watch anything.
>>216023080You have to be 18 to post here
>>216023080I can watch kinos at work no prob. Fire me if you can, you faggot capitalist.
>>216023121I'm 56
>>216022803he was an autistic aesthete
>>216022803He was caught in a particularly intense crux of the crisis of meaning in the latter half of the 20th century which makes him an interesting cipher for the human condition in this period, Richey Edwards is a similar case and also inspires fascination in some people. He essentially became an absurdist performance artist as a way to cope with experiences of abjection at an early age robbing life of the illusion of narrative sense for him, something humans tend to be very sensitive to due to our overspecialisation into semantic development as an animal species.
