Here's your Agamemnon bro
>>216745642These guys have bicameral minds which is extremely based
>>216745642he's a big guy
>>216745642if you add a light going back and forth in that eye slit you basically have cylons
>>216745642That looks like it was 3-D printed and made for a Marvel movie, not anything from the Greek bronze age. WTF is Nolan doing?
>>216745642>>216745056
>>216745731>not anything from the Greek bronze age.So just like Troy, didn't see you complain about that.
>>216745731>WTF is Nolan doing?making a marvel movie. what did you think he was doing?
I would have never expected that Nolan would have costumes worse than Tarsem's Immortals.
one of the best and most amazing imho elements of the Iliad/Odyssey is the remarks about the shine of armors and the glittering effect it has, one of my favorite similes is when Achilles approaching Troy shines like a deadly star in the sky while moving across the fieldthis plastic-y bland shit completely kills the vibe
>>216745761You really are a monumental insect if you're going to sit here and pretend that troy looked anywhere near this bad.What Nolan's baldheaded cult seems incapable of warping their barren skulls around is that no one would care about anachronisms if they were aesthetically pleasing.
>>216745812>he actually reads ancientslop
>>216745761Troy looks real.
>>216745642Why does he have DSL?>inb4 Greeks were gay
>>216745642which MCU movie is this
>>216745827>autistic babble
>>216745642>greek batman
>>216745642>Odysseus, you son of a bitch.Do they do the Predator hand shake?
>>216745761>>216745927
>>216745927Not even that anon but he blew you the fuck out.
>>216745990Sure samefag
>>216746044I'm a third anon and I also agree that he blew you the fuck out
>>216745990>>216746093>anon blew the other anongay
>>216745642this looks like a european car
>>216745642I, the audience, am quite frankly tired of having my intelligence insulted
>>216745642Reminder that this character is portrayed by Elliott Page
>>216745927>the definition of autism is when you call me stupid>and the more intensely you question my intelligence the more autistic you are
>>216745642Unironically looks like a children's cartoon character.
>>216745827>Nolan charges aesthetic on purpose >hmmmm acktually, this is historically inaccurate!
>He wears ALL BLACK because he's evil Bravo Nolan silent era is back
>>216745642I don't care, they could put spaceships and Godzilla, there are negroes, I'm not watching. Simple as.
>>216746172You have 95 IQ.
>>216746362which just underlines the point
So is Nolan going for some hyper stylized 300-esque shit or is it just going to be crypto capeshit?
>>216745642Based, FUCK ACHILLES
>>216745642Is this the power of AI?
>>216745642so you come back to die with your city
>>216746473Was getting Helen of Troy part of your plan ?
>>216746317Nolan fans and profound mental disabilities.Name a more famous duo.
>>216745833Are you insulting someone for reading immortal classics? Are you really that big of a loser?
>>216745642Star Wars did it better
>>216746423>So is Nolan going for some hyper stylized 300-esque shitIt's this. I think most people are willing to wait and see a finished version before chimping out about this but a lot of other people are very bored and need something to tortanic.
>>216745642that armor should be pink and the mop on top should be a fucking rainbow
>>216745642Welcome back MF DOOM
>>216746512>fairy tales written by gays>classicokay buddy
>>216746362I don't know how you decided that, but judging by the artistic choice for this movie, Nolan and his costume designers might have less than that.
>>2167465071 billie.8 oscars.
>>216745642The new power rangers look good
>>216746760Nolan is too good for the average /tv/ anon.
>>216745642Chad armor eight there. It also kinda looks like a repurposed Batman cowl.
>>216745956If the movie established rhat modern cars existed in ancient Greece, like they're the chariots of the gods or something, that's just a stylistic choice. You can like it or not, but it's perfectly valid; they're not shooting a documentary.
>>216745642>Zack Snyder makes Greeks fight shirtless and that's fine>this is a step too far, the armor is inaccurate
>>216745642I mean the story has fucking mythological monsters and gods in it. What the fuck do you expect? All the Greeks stories were just capeshit of their time.
>>216745731the entire industry fucking sucks and that's the best that the best of the best can come up with
>>216745642>Niggas be thinking shit like troy is historically accurate armor>This is the actual armor of the time.
>>216745642So this costuming is the result of Hollywood keeping White creatives out, huh?
>>216745642Am i the only one who likes Nolan's take on this? He's clearly putting his own stamp on it and going for the epic fantasy pulp vibe.
>>216746512It's just a zoomer brownoid baiting. That's what 80% of this board is nowadays.
>>216745642Benny Safdie as Agamemnon is one of the funniest casting decisions ever. How the fuck do you go from Brian Cox to this?
>>216746512he wanted to get some retarded overreaction like you just gave him
>>216745642One of us has to be in the Trojan horse, brother.
>>216745642this feels like a zack synder thing, stylized when there's no reason for it to be stylized. (and the style is shit)
helmet been mewing
>>216747521what's the reason for it not to be stylized
/tv/ be like
>>216747112>Actually entering battle shaped like a Pawnsee now THAT is funny.
>>216745642This is the kind of shit Avatar haters would defend with their lives.
>>216745642I'm not against the idea of dramatized fictional armor, but it sure does look like plastic. Pic is aluminum armor from Excalibur. Inaccurate and wrong material, but it looks like real armor because it's made of metal.
>>216747987logically I forgot the pic
>>216747679>literal coolest thing everif you're a jeet that is
>>216747112that was armor for very rich important peopleregular hellenics in wars had padded leather with scutes maybe and that was it
where's the camrip of the prologue?
found the trailer the pic is from https://streamable.com/7usd90
>perfectly clean, intact 3d printed armor wore by a man who is supposedly fighting for a decade
>>2167467620 billies0 reading comprehension
>>216745642looks like shit
>>216748111king
Whats the problem? Did you not read the books?
>>216747112>>216748090>>216748112Achaeans were an expeditionary force far from home. Most of the levies wore plain clothing since they were far from home and had to bring their own weapons and armor. It wasn’t until around the 7th century BCE, when Athens and Sparta began developing professional armies, that soldiers were issued weapons. Before that, they had to provide their own.That having been said, the royalty and their guards did wear some armor.
>>216748090Every free man who made up the bulk of the army, was required to provide a shield, helmet, and protective armor. The wealthier a man was, the more elaborate his equipment. There were also auxiliary troops, made up of slaves, servants, or mercenaries, who used javelins, slings, and other projectile weapons and were only lightly protected.
>>216745642Don't care, it's still gonna be kino. You just want something to complain about.
Isn't there a 6 minute version somewhere?
>>216745642WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE PLASTIC POWER RANGER SUITSwhat is that madman thinking? Crashing the investors with no survivors?
>>216748251good morning,sir
>>216748181The plebes don't even know about Antiphates the giga-Laestrygonian, tha destroya o' worlds.
>>216745642this is bad because?
>>216748251>visual medium looks like rancid shit>saaar it is gonna be keino saar
>>216748258Should on da ily mo tionIt looks kino
>>216745642Realistically that is the only way they could make someone with as comically ugly features as Benny Safdie work as a character like Agamemnon.He doesn't have a pair of cheekbones so they added some to his helmet.
>Being a Nolan fanboy
>dood, agamemnon is evil and bad
Historical accuracy aside, it just looks ugly as fuck holy shit.
So fucking ugly looking
>>216745642Holy shit they went will it. That's directly from the epic. You can see I'm old Greek pottery. I didn't think they'd fully copy the epic.
Let the man cook.
>>216748232Yes but the phalanx hadn’t become dominant in fight yet. Heavy armor only works well with organized professional troops that don’t break. In the archaic Greek period it is likely they fought with skirmishers pelasts moving in and out from behind a shield wall made from heavier armored nobles/elites.
>>216748328Daily bait. Nolan is doing the epic. The epic was written after the events was basically science fiction. It has teleporter in it. Their armor is supposed to look like darkened nickel except for one night where he wears the boars tooth armor. It's an heirloom They troll it's not historically accurate because they want attention from white people. It's too gun, Superman hating crowd
>>216748715Sorry top gun hating*They don't understand how retarded they sound but it doesn't matter. They are generation z. Make shit up for attention the generation. They are a product of YouTubers and single moms and hero worship
>>216748112This looks cool. I could put up with historical inaccuracy if it was to make it look cooler and more spectacular in a way that's appropriate for the setting. I can even put up with 300. Odyssey just looks like shit
>>216748337lmao don't pull the visual medium bs when you guys are bitching about camrip quality screenshots. It looks fine in theaters.
>>216748715>>216748779people aren't mad because it's historically inaccurate anon, they're mad because it's historically inaccurate AND it looks like shit. >>216745642 could potentially be really cool if it weren't for the fact that it looks cheap and plasticky.
>>216748886
>>216748910Thjat shot literally proofed my point when I saw it today. It looks 10x better in theaters, that's a shit
>>216748927>Thjat shot literally proofed my point when I saw it today. It looks 10x better in theaters, that's a shit*That shot literally proved my point when I saw it today. It looks 10x better in theaters, that's a fact.
>>216745642>Nolan descended from midwit to dumbfuck
Agamemnon cara de perro (dog face)
>>216745642no one has posted this?
>>216748670 >heavier armored nobles/elites.Armored nobles and elites made up most of the army. Much like in medieval times, warfare was dominated by nobles and knights. If thousands of peasants were marched into battle, they would likely scatter everywhere at the first sight of combat.
>>216748007I never watched this movie, but I caught a glimpse of it one night, years ago.The lighting looked really good on the shiny armours. That's why I recognise the film to this day.
>>216748927>>216748939the purpose of that screenshot is to show that the design of that armour is so fucking retarded and goofy that there is no way it looks good in motionIf I showed you a low quality screenshot of a video of someone taking a shit, would you claim that it was possible that the video itself would be enjoyable?
Why is that bronze black
>>216745735damn
>>216748910Why is this bronze silver
why do all the costumes in this look like they are made out of plastic
>>216748402why'd they cast a dyel manlet for the role anyways? in the clips and based on his armor he looks like he should be some sort of a badass, unless the point is that he has extravagant and expensive armor despite being physically a weakling?
>>216748886>saar de 4chane is on personAre you serious?>the visual medium bullshitNo, you're surely pulling my leg.
>>216749232I will apologize for all my slanderous comments and kneel if it's played for laugh>the wide ruling lord removes his helmet>everyone gasps, wives start plotting matricide, and wild dog throws up in the background
>>216745761At least in Troy it looked nice, even if not accurate. This shit looks like some cheap outfit you see on a random Star Trek episode. It looks like fucking plastic.
>>216745642I suppose if you are going to steal, steal from the best.
>>216749202Well, they ARE made of plastic
>Here's your Greek king broSeriously, I know it's been said a thousand times, but what's up with the casting? I don't get how Nolan could even rationalize it.
>>216750052Few people realize this but Agamemnon and Helen are two diametrical opposites.She had a face that launched a thousand ships, he had a face that drove his wife to treason and murder.
>>216745642This is probably Ares, I think it's Matthew McConaughey. Agamemnon is played by Benny Safdie and he's inside the horse.
>>216750207You see Benny Safdie as Agamemnon inside the horse inside the city with Menelaus and Odysseus. they open the gates and let this guy inside. he's Ares.>>216748112he's a God not a man.
>>216747626because it's historical fiction, and nothing else seems to be stylized, going by the movie poster
>>216749003>Armored nobles and elites made up most of the army. Much like in medieval times, warfare was dominated by nobles and knights.Yes, in the classical greece era but the time span of the fall of troy was during the transition out of the bronze age where most of the force was made out of light infantry armed with javelins and slings. The whole age of heroes was that a fit guy with bronze armor could run into an army line and rape the lightly armored guys because he was wearing and wielding enough bronze that it would take 100 years income of a farmer to pay for the labor to make it.
>>2167456634u
>>216749512>tfw she was considered not beautiful enough to play Helen>tfw Zendaya now gets cast as AthenaWe need to go back
Have we found who /our guy/ will be playing?
>>216749001god i love brian cox. he was born to be agamemnon. i'm going to be legitimately depressed when he goes
>>216745642where the fuck are the webms of this shit?
>>216748910Can't make this shit up
>>216750698Sex slave.
>>216745662>>216745663>>216745664It’s literally power rangers iphone armor
>>216745642he looks like Cyrus from Chrono Trigger
>>216746512While you’re reading ancient texts, brownoids are hollowing out your women and breeding white plap sows.
>>216747474Kek
>>216745761This shit looks like a plastic helmet I would buy at Toys R Us in 2006.
>>216748910space knights? wtf
>>216750698cyclops
>>216750698Ajax obviously you CHUD
They could have at least gone the romantic hoplite version of it wich has been the more popular envision of the work worldwide and back with the greeks as well, and why is jewllywood allergic to color?
>>216745642It's ugly af, looks better than 99% Star Wars (or any other scifi franchise) costumes.What happened to the /fash/ion deparments of Hollywood?
>>216752415the western emisphere universities and colleges teach jack about classical art these days I presume.
>>216745663they expect one of us in the underworld brother
>>216752513This. The worship of Minerva (Goddess of craft and fabrics) and Venus must be reestablish.
>>216751822Ajax the Lesser or Ajax the Great?
>>216752607No, pagancuck, the colleges and academia need to return to pre modernism art and its value
>>216748910>>216745642They should have gone all sci-fi armor. Ancient Greek x future tech. Make it like that Alexander The Great anime with designs by the Aeon Flux artist.
>>216751833That guy in the blue armor looks a bit like me. It's kinda unnerving.
>>216745642what videogame
>>216752931Assassins Creed Odyssey
>>216752904>Make it like that Alexander The Great anime with designs by the Aeon Flux artist.What the fuck, how have I never heard of this?
>>216752963what the fuck is up with the obsession arm bracers? nobody in antiquity wore them
>>216745761troy flopped idiot
>>216745642>Nolan doing Batman againTime for some kino, boys
>>216753301video game character design dictates that you have to be wearing something in the arm/hand slot, even if its a game where you don't equip shit like in an rpg
>>216748670>In the archaic Greek period it is likely they fought with skirmishers pelasts moving in and out from behind a shield wall made from heavier armored nobles/elites.Citation needed
You film fags are offended by everything. Read the book then and imagine everything looking period accurate. I just picked up the Emily Wilson translation hopefully it lives up to how you guys hype it up to be
>>216750698Girl ruined her life just to look like an incel
>>216745642It would probably look better if it was gold, but for some reason they think ancient people hated color.
>>216752963Ubisoft actually made an effort to bring ancient Greece to life with this game. Can't say the same for Nolan.
>>216753301They think it looks cooler, that was the last good ubisoft game so I give it a pass. I do wonder when they started giving everyone braces in media
>>216755646I reckon around the same time they started giving everyone leather armour
>>216745761Troy was 20 years ago anon
>>216745833>doesn't know how to read
>>216745642Is that mf doom?
>>216745642The style remind me of this
>Anglos>Blacks>Browns>Asians>0 MediterraneansAnglos and Jewlywood will NEVER get over the superiority of Hellenic-Roman civilization. Even after the woke area and the end of whitewashing of other stories, Med ones will continue being white/black/brownwashed
>>216756777Greeks, Roman and Egyptians are phenotypes I fear no longer exist, modern roman and greeks are basically lybian and turk rapebabies while Egyptians are basically arabic.
>>216756816Why does everyone assume mass rape replacement was a thing. It was pretty much never a thing anywhere except maybe the Mongol empire
>>216745642looks like marvel shit
I'm feeling smug bros, how bout you?
>>216745812There's also this phrase that appeared a few times in the description of the fighting in the Iliad, whereupon a warrior being slain, it was said that he fell with his armor clattering around him, which is remarkable in that it sounds exactly like what you'd expect from someone wearing this style of armor, consistent with the time period.
>>216756920>more than a thousand years of interbreeding>empires, races and customs came and wentyou're pretty naive to believe today's greeks or italians share more than 10% of the phenotype or dna as their predecessors.
>>216745662>not having an Emersonian mind
>>216757189Oh really, what were the massive depopulation events in Italy between 500 AD and today?
>>216757228the middle ages and italy being invaded like every 50 years or so.
>>216757189>>216756920While the 10% anon is a retard, the ethnic replacement of original Roman stock is well documented, not only by modern anthropologists but by the historians of the era i.e Juvenal who wrote that there's 'No place for a Roman in Rome' while lamenting the demographic and cultural shift. Rome was swamped by migrants from all over the empire, who were subsequently slain, starved, or remigrated when the WRE collapsed - returning Italy to more strictly Italian stock.
>>216756920>a thingIt doesn't help making an absurd point when you write it like an illiterate 12yo.But yes the Greeks were absolutely replaced by Turks over the course of the Byzantine empire. Please familiarize yourself with the Byzantine Empire before opening your mouth on the subject ever again.
>>216757326Nigger thinks this is a college debate
>>216757228Do you think Rome existed without mass migration when Caesar reformed the political life of Rome to allow conquered peoples to become senators? Thereby giving himself loyal vassals? Do you think could collapse and be invaded by Germanics without there being significant demographic shifts, let alone suffer plagues and famines?
>>216757365>>216757326>>216757317Why are Nords obsessed with the idea of people being ethnically raped out of existence?
y not just make a modern futuristic movie? This nigger hates colour and joy.
>>216745642Looks so freaking kino, not sure what you fat incel faggots are so uptight about, just skip the movie and stop crying?
>>216757380I'm just quoting the facts to a deranged spic that wants to associate itself with the glory of Rome or Greece
>>216757432"facts" that pretty much every serious historian rejects stfu and watch your BBC gangbang vids you deranged freak
>>216746362Why so generous?
>>216747112why do plebs think this is some kind of dunk, the armour looks ugly and alien good, tired of same boring design.
were the greek capable of making decorative metal spines?
>>216757450Subhuman
>>216745642kek wtf is this
The virgin cyclops (pic rel) vs the gigachad Italian monster cyclops
>>216757518oh nevermind, looks like it can easily be casted now that I think about it.
>>216757486compared to OP's pic, its shit. OP's pic fucking rules, it just needs badass black and red coloring with crimson energy lines and more spikes like daedric armor, it';d be so sick
>>216755782no armour, use curved shitty swords. How were they good warriors?
>>216757531Sorry you're racial cuck fantasy is a lie, you'll recover
>>216757215>not having an Amazonian mind
>>216753530>Citation neededIts literally the book standard hetrothodox thought on the evolution of the phalanx. Do you actually want citations ill have to go look up or just shitposting?
>>216757550Forgot vidhttps://youtu.be/_i9NFF05_YUhttps://youtu.be/mpxPVYOVqOI
>>216757550Nolan is the emperor with new clothes.
>>216745662>that voice in my head that tells me to goon for 16 hours isn't me, it's the godsbased
>>216757550>>216757606Once again confused on the issue. Nolan's version looks creepy as hell in a good way
>>216757573>racial cuck fantasy >after posting his racial cuck fantasy>crops a screenshot that has nothing to do with genetic science or anthropology>accuses me of being a liarThe only thing you've proven is that you're a shitskin with a low IQ, probably Indian. I would love to slap your head around so it looks like you're bobbing.
>>216757640>Spouts 4chan conspiracies as truth>Only evidence is exagerrated to laughable extremes>Calls others subhumanl o l
>>216757635hes afriad of looking goofy he lacks joy. Cyclops cant have a giant eyeball nah its need to be tiny and realistic.
>>216745642Looks cool as fuck. >But it's not historically accurate! The helmet should be made out of leather and look like shit and hand made!Nobody cares.This looks cool.Go watch a documentary.Thanks Nolan.
>>216757693Why does the eyeball need to be giant
>>216757746it doesnt, but nolans pic does not look like a cyclops, the movie does not look ancient greek, matt damon is playing matt damon.
>>216745642>You wanted me, here I am.
>>216752607>lets worship this marvel jewllywood characterno
>>216756816Cope snow nigger
>>216757380nordniggers don't reproduce anymore, so they should indee fear being replaced, the snowchimp is not a man of action but just words like all paganlarpers subhumans.
>>216745662based
>>216758037>Cope snow niggerthe nordcuck must cope with the fact that his mediterranean rival is the same genetically from thousands of years ago, and how they cope with that ? by inventing that they are all blonde aryans from agartha that get *magically* replaced by a pack of feral gorillas, is there more deranged freaks like these ? i think not...
I'm not watching a movie with Zendaya as Athena. That's fucking retarded.
>>216758124They are funnier and worse than the we wuz blacks because these guy are 60IQ and don't know any better. The nordkeks don't even believe their shit, they are lying out of seethe
>>216756816who says I'm a nordcuck. I'm just saying that the phenotypes of the ancient world no longer exist
>>216757746Because someone in antiquity stumbled upon a mammoth skull and tought is was a cyclops.
>>216758910tuskless mammoth skull
>>216758926>>216758910Interesting, never heard that theory before
>>216757317>the ethnic replacement of original Roman stock is well documented, not only by modern anthropologistsNo?Multiple studies confirm substantial continuity not just of Roman populations to down to modern times but even pre-Roman:"A 2020 analysis of maternal haplogroups from ancient and modern samples in the central Italian region of Umbria finds a substantial genetic similarity among modern Umbrians and the area's pre-Roman inhabitants, and evidence of substantial genetic continuity in the region from pre-Roman times to the present.""A 2017 analysis of maternal haplogroups from ancient and modern samples indicated a substantial genetic similarity among the modern inhabitants of Central Italy and the area's ancient pre-Roman inhabitants of Picene settlement of Novilara in the province of Pesaro, and evidence of substantial genetic continuity in the region from pre-Roman times to the present with regard to mitochondrial DNA.">>216756920It's a mix of two things.Modern Greece and Italy aren't the pinnacles of Western civilization anymore and right wingers believe demographics determine literally everything about society (hence why they never want to fund social programs). So they infer a necessary genetic shift.Also Italians and Greeks are relatively darker than more northern populations which is aesthetically displeasing to people who think blonde hair and blue eyes are traits of superiority.
>>216745642nolanfaggots actually defend this
>>216745642>I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS
>>216759135>r*ddit spacing
>>216757326Genetic studies on Turks show they have a high genetic similarity with other Mediterranean populations while still carrying lesser amounts of Central Asian DNA. They're basically Islamized and Turkified Greeks.
>tfw the parody version of a character is now better than an actual attempt at portraying them>>216757047You didn't even post best Agamemnon
>>216757635>shit is dark>woah creepy anglos dindu nothing!The TV series cyclops was corny as hell yet absolutely terrifying.
>>216745642
>>216753301it's an Assassin's Creed motif, pleb.
Who will play Achilles in the inevitable flashback?
