moderns shitting on great chivalric romance source material from the middle ages just because they can

>>217669533
>god im such a piece of shit, fuck you mom
>responsibility? Doing what my mom expects of me? No fuck that kill me please! That will show her!

I quite enjoyed the movie.
I have no nostalgia or attachment to the source material.
I just thought hey, this is a good movie, with a great performances, visually beautiful cinematography, the dreamy tone and atmosphere was neat, etc.
I don't give a flying fuck that the mc was indian (he's clearly a native of britain with that accent).

>>217669533
Moral of the story: What you give is what you get

>>217669741
>I have no nostalgia or attachment to the source material
You have no frame of reference and your opinion can be safely disregarded.

>>217669741
Please learn what the word native means

I was promised a talking fox sidekick

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>>217669533
In the realm of King Arthur, a brown knight gets molested by his mom as part of an ancient eastern ritual.

>>217669533
>The fuck is it about?
the cumrag of destiny

off with your head

>>217669533

>>217669863
I believe that's why the movie ends ambiguously, the original story ending changes the moral and make the whole part with staying with that guy and his cum hungry wife pointless.

As abstract as it was, I remember so many scenes and visuals from this movie vividly. It's very effective filmmaking and not at all what I expected.

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>>217669533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IONENrsG2eQ

>>217669533
subversive garbage

>>217669533
I couldn't finish the Pajeet Knight.

I dont think I can consoom media past like 2016. I'll just wait for AI chud media in 10 years will all white casts and autistically accurate armor and clothes in period pieces (not that Arthurian ledgends are supposed to be in an actually period, per se).

>>217669741
>native
>he was born in the UK and speaks English, he's as English as anyone who's ancestors have been there for 10 generations and its not jarring to see him in any movie set in any time during British history, I mean he speak English, right?

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>>217669533
a movie made by people who either didn't understand or didn't like the source material. My experience was literally pic related.

>>217669935
Native, not indigenous. Being born there is literally the definition and only requirement.

>>217669533
It was basically a side quest in The Witcher 3 but as a movie

>>217670695
Blatantly wrong

>>217669533
I think they were speaking English but I couldn't understand what they were saying half the time. Also they say Gawain's name funny compared to how it's usually pronounced which was annoying.

>>217669533
>The pajeet knight

>>217669741
You are brown. A donkey born in a stable isn't a horse.

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>>217669741
>he's clearly a native of britain with that accent

is it about the story written (or more like translated in modern English) by Tolkien?

>>217669533
>green
>mcdonalds colors
>knight
>jeet wearing rags
What were they thinking

>>217669533
>What did I just watch?
KINO of the highest order

>The fuck is it about?
Well...
>playboy knight gets tested by his mother and uncle
>said knight fails all tests of quality for a good knight
>final boss(roleplayed by his mom) doesn't even bother to kill the pathetic loser, tells him to go home to mommy because he's not worth to be knighted and/or need more training.
>knight now understands more of his weaknesses and himself, goes home
Quite a straight forward story if you paid attention

>>217670287
THIS, I expected it to be another DEI slop and it turned out to be quite good, the soundtrack was fucking kino too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Fdj5G2tQw

>>217669533
Slow movie, great costumes design though. Netflix Flopcher wishes it had these designs.

fear of death or whatever same with every a24 movie.

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>>217669558
fpbp
217669741
Good moring, saar.

>>217669741
really triggered the pol spics with this one. subtle yet very effective bait. well done

>>217669533
i couldn' tell you: the pajeet roleplaying as a white knight was a solid no-no by the first scenes: i've been vaccinated by the second.

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>>217669533
Okay, how do so many people not understand what this movie is about? it's about the same thing most stories about knights and quests are about. Honor, chivalry, responsibility, sacrifice, doing the right thing no matter what. The only spin is that instead of an honorable knight going through a series of trials to test his moral character, its a self-centered hedonistic douchebag. and instead of passing all these trials, he fails all of them bar the very last. Instead of a story designed to give men something to aspire to, it's a cautionary tale about destructive behavior. It also seemed like a fairly obvious shot across the bow at the modern social media narcissistic youth.

I liked it, fuck you.

>>217672886
You are mostly right, but I think you misunderstood the ending. The Green Knight was not his mom, the fox was. The fox was trying it's hardest to guide Gawain to make the right choices, but he kept fucking up and fucking up, and then finally it tried to convince him to abandon the quest because it knew that the only way for Gawain to succeed at that point would be to give up his life to salvage all of his previous mistakes. He removes his jizz soaked invincibility blanket and pays the piper, thus saving the kingdom from what would have been his ruinous reign. Whether or not the green knight really kills him is left vague, but I think he really did decide to kill him, based on how hard Gawains mother tried to cheat code him through the quest.

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>>217669741
>a native of britain

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>>217669533
dat's British history m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcWRf8M53tw

Good analysis

>>217674523
Just reading the comments I can see this is for gay pseuds

>>217669741
>the mc was indian
Thank you, just saved me a couple of hours

>>217669533
>The fuck is it about?
People of poor character that get propped up by luck of birth. They drink the kool-aid and eat the cake only to learn that, through trial and error, they aren't as smart, noble, skilled, and honorable as they've been told they are. I liked this move, it wasn't what I wanted it to be but it was still okay.

>>217675519
Anyone can be heckin anything. Heck yeah

>the brown knight

>>217670640
Can you explain what the filmmakers didn't understand about the original story?

>>217674275
It's hopeless to argue with the critics because it's obvious they didn't even watch the movie or pay attention to it. They just saw an Indian man as the protagonist (who is not Indian in the movie; he's playing a British man) and turned their brain off.

>>217675952
If you pay close attention to the movie you'll notice that Sir Gawain is actually portrayed by an Indian

>>217674488
Kino from start to finish

>>217675981
And what of it?

>>217676035
Because now it's impossible to separate the film as a work of art and the real-world anti white policies of governments and institutions. It instantly and irrevocably shatters suspension of disbelief. The lead actor was deliberately cast because he's nonwhite, not because of any thematic reasons, but because of diversity quotas (at best) or as deliberate social conditioning to rob Britons of their racial heritage (at worst). It's like if Sir Gawain wore a NASCAR jumpsuit covered in advertisements and sponsors for the whole movie. It would be so jarring, out of place, and obviously a cynical studio decision that it would automatically invalidate the movie as worthy of artistic consideration.

I thought it was clanky and dull and I normally I like these sorts of films.

>>217676340
Well said, though even disregarding that aspect the movie itself isnt all that good.

It's a really clever and thoughtful inversion of the original story with beautiful visuals. People here won't be able to get past the jeet MC.

>>217676340
Nothing in the world will change due to your refusal to watch this other than you missing out on a pretty good film, so what's the point?

>>217676434
I haven't seen this movie yet but I'm starting to get tired of inversions, everyone nowadays wants to be clever by being subversive to the point that it seems like directors find it embarrassing to just tell a genuine and straightforward story (unless it's to make some low effort slop like jurassic world or whatever). I'm still gonna watch this because a friend suggested it to me and it looks interesting visually, but I'm hoping for an inversion (heh) of this trend soon

what's the deal with the giant ash people?

>>217676340
I agree, but it's also the law. They are forced to make bad art this way because it's illegal not to. Even though Green Knight is set in the European middle ages, it will not be eligible for BAFTA nominations and other perks if it does not contain sufficient diversity.

>>217676340
>Because now it's impossible to separate the film as a work of art and the real-world anti white policies of governments and institutions.
That's a you problem, not a film problem.
>It instantly and irrevocably shatters suspension of disbelief.
Dev Patel easily passes for a swarthy British man.

>>217675981
It's telling that you were asked to come up with something the filmmakers misunderstood about the source material, and your only point is the race of the actor who plays Gawain. Not Gawain or any other character's role in the film, not the themes of the film or the plot, and not even how it deals with Arthurian fantasy in general.
Nope, you low IQ retards can only barely scrape together the most surface level criticism for a movie that you almost certainly didn't even watch.

>>217677186
It's not low IQ to point out that Arthurian fantasy is English and not Indian, and that casting Indians as English mythic knights destroys the film on a basic level.

>>217677186
The film is a shit representation of the original poem, its well shot and acted but the themes and characterization tarnishes the rest of the film. Gawain is not a whoring scoundrel, he is already chivalrous, however his quest to find the green knight leads him to put that chivalry to the test, and question how appearing chivalrous and virtuous is not enough when outside the comfort of his kingdom. in the film, he just wants some fame and glory, while shagging his prostitute, and they add all that other rubbish to pad it out, and throw it in the trailer to make him some pseudo odyssey without the substance

>Sar Knight Pajetoman, please do not redeem the round table

>>217677186
In the source material, Gawain is a Briton.

>>217677357
If the film made Gawain into an Indian, then you would have a point. But that doesn't happen; Dev Patel is playing a Brit. It's no different than Brad Pitt (Anglo) playing Achilles (Greek).
>>217677361
You're totally wrong about the themes. Gawain in the poem does want fame and glory, but is a naive coward whose arc is overcoming that cowardice and earning his spurs the way a man should. That's exactly what happens in the film too, albeit presented differently. I agree that the film is too padded with bullshit in the middle, but the fundamental message is essentially the same as in the poem.

>>217676719
In the King Arthur literature of the time, there are references to giants and trolls

>>217677520
He is a Briton in the film as well. The reason I'm calling you guys low IQ is because you seem to not understand the difference between the character and the actor portraying the character.

>>217676662
It's only an inversion, if you've read the original.
The movie makes perfect sense as a standalone

>>217669741
Im with you anon. It looks so good. I got a really nice hdr 4k version saved and it looks fantastic

Felt like some dudes fever dream (featuring cuckoldry). All style over substance.
I thought it was visually interesting, but I never want to watch it again.

Streetshitters should stick to bollywood

>>217677622
Suspension of disbelief only goes so far, especially when the casting choices are coupled with the real life policies of white racial replacement

>>217676340
>Because now it's impossible to separate the film as a work of art and the real-world anti white policies
Its only impossible if you're a race obsessed retard.
Idk. Maybe you live someplace where theres just no colored people at all ever so seeing one for you is like some old chineese person seeing a black for the first time and it splitting their world in half.

>>217677361
>The film is a shit representation of the original poem
It's a deliberately inverted version of the story. The structure of it and how it mirrors the beats of the original story literally wouldn't be possible without them fully understanding the original.

>>217676340
You are not only wrong, but you're so committed to being wrong that you're purposely denying yourself art as some Quixotic "fuck you" to the imaginary demons you've conjured up to give yourself purpose.

I dunno. Grow the fuck up and cut the bullshit?

>>217677592
>It's no different than Brad Pitt (Anglo) playing Achilles (Greek).
You presume I don't think that's retarded as well and you would be wrong

>>217677641
my complaint was meant to be in a general sense and on a conceptual level, I'm sure I'll have a good enough time with this specific flick. That said I'd also be interested in seeing an adaptation of the story with no inversion (afaik there isn't one yet)

>>217677741
>>217677782
LINK THE DISCORD, SAARSTIRS!

>>217677741
>race obsessed retard.
Why is it that when you point out niggers being cast in traditionally white roles for diversity reasons you’re called obsessed with race, but when it happens the other way around entire lefty internet has a meltdown and tries to torch the director yet they’re not considered obsessed with race?

Has any White man seen this movie? I saw a jeet and just shut it off. I assume you'd have to own a cuck chair if you watched more than 10 minutes.

>>217677902
the very fact you care so much you make effort to replace the role with DEI casting means you are race obsessed faggot

>>217669558
Fpbp
>217669741
Shit bait

>>217677592
Brad Pitt can pass as an Achaean and "Dev Patel" cannot pass as a 14th century English knight. We have centuries worth of depictions of these archetypes and none of them look like "Dev Patel".

>>217669533
the closest thing to a Dark Souls movie we will ever get

>>217677782
leftoid propaganda made to attack our race is not "art" it's like drinking poison

this triggers my progressive nonsense fatigue

>>217669533
DO NOT REDEEM THE STRIKE SIRS

>>217677964
>Brad Pitt can pass as an Achaean and "Dev Patel" cannot pass as a 14th century English knight. We have centuries worth of depictions of these archetypes and none of them look like "Dev Patel".
The movie isn't attempting to adapt the original story in a straightforward way. Morgan la Fey, Gawain's mother, is also depicted as being of a dark complexion, and it's been suggested that this is meant to represent their "otherness" (Morgan has fairy / non human ancestry in the original stories)

>>217677769
more like a deliberate subversion of the original, even down to the casting choice. it lacks many of the themes, other than temptation. even the ending lacks any weight and feels like a weak attempt to impose a "did he really die" scene. it makes me question who was this for.

>>217677592
An Indian can never convincingly portray a Briton.

>>217678023
>Gawain's mother, is also depicted as being of a dark complexion
The reason for the casting is because of modern pro-diversity mandates, and the excuses you conjure up here to make you think it's somehow more authentic is just cope so you don't have to view yourself as a defender and consumer of nakedly pro-regime propaganda. Same with the black hobbits in Rings of Power too.

>>217678025
>more like a deliberate subversion of the original
Yep
>it lacks many of the themes
It has almost identical themes, they're just inverted. Instead of an established, honorable knight passing every test of chivalry and then failing at the very end due to fear of death, we have a playboy fuckup who fails every test on his journey but ultimately passes the final test and finds his honor due to fear of life (without honor).

"It's a subversion!" has become a total meme but this is actually an instance where it is being done correctly to say something original and interesting.

>>217676719
Nothing really, Gawain asked them for a ride to make the journey easier, he's just lazy, greedy, and immature and that scene emphasizes it.

>>217678099
but the subversion is done to the detriment of the original. nothing is gained from this. its done only as a degradation and bastardization, its saying nothing at all new so its subversion is completely pointless other than to piss of and destroy the source material.

>>217678157
>but the subversion is done to the detriment of the original. nothing is gained from this.
You're certainly entitled to this opinion but it's wrong.

The funniest thing (to me) is that the message of the movie is very, very chud friendly, but they'll never even get past the brown casting to even figure out what it's trying to say.

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>>217677622
Can Gabourney Sibide play Adolf Hitler in a serious historical drama about WWII?

>>217678179
what is actually gained from this interpretation? how does this adaption improve on the original?

>>217678222
what is it trying to say?

>>217678275
That a life without virtue is empty, death with honor is preferable, and even the biggest fuckup is capable of redemption once they understand the full picture.

>>217669533
Just gonna watch sword of the valiant instead.

>>217678253
>how does this adaption improve on the original?
Why does it need to "improve" on the original if it's trying to say something completely different with it? It's not replacing anything.The messages of the original poem and the film are complementary, not contradictory.

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>>217669533
Accountability.
No wonder this board hated it so much.

>>217677902
Pointing it out is one thing. But saying it ruins it completely and refusing to watch it because of it, makes you a retard.

>>217678309
>>217678333
yeah watered down slop, but throw in a talking fox, some spooky skull for some reason, and a couple giants. he gains no virtue so hes not really tested just gets his sword robbed stumbles his way around, oh cool theirs a castle, promise i will give you some kisses its meaningless with this weak characterization. just shits his pants when his heads about to get lopped but then accepts he should stop being a pussy. trash film but visually appealing.

>>217671010
>A donkey born in a stable
Where else would it be born, you fucking retard?
And more likely, it'd be a mule, after its donkey dad fucked all the fine mares lmfao.

>>217678461
>filtered
Many such cases

I loved it. Made me do a complete 180 on David Lowery. Still can't decide what I think the ending meant. Does the Green Knight kill him as promised? Or was the Green Knight testing if he had the honor to show up and accept defeat? Still think about this movie from time to time and I only saw it once in theaters. All the boomers who bitched about
>muh king arthur
were never going to like it so I don't understand why A24 sold it to them so hard, it fucking tanked their reputation with normies and now almost none of their movies get a wide release from week 1 as a result of them being paranoid the same thing will happen.

>>217669949
trve

>>217678461
It's a good movie, not sure why anons are hell bent on hating it. Probably because the movie holds up a mirror to what many modern men (and women) are like. People are selfish, cowardly or avoidant, wants constant rewards, and think it's okay to lie or cheat tasks instead of doing things with honestly and earnest effort.

>>217669533
schizo christfag germanoid nonsense from the late middle ages.

>>217678253
It makes Indians think they are somehow a part of English history now so they feel more welcome living in the UK in 2026.

>>217669558
Gawain and the Green Knight is a parody of chivalric romances, it's actually pretty funny.

>>217678878
/pol/tards don't read they don't know anything about the source material

>>217678623
>not sure why anons are hell bent on hating it.
Because it has a brown lead and it's subverting a piece of english folklore that they haven't read but feel the need to act precious about, it's not complicated.

>>217678906
We read the originals, and you soiface over the bastardisation of them by untalented political hacks.

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>>217678906
>t.

>>217678967
We have read it, and it is our culture and not yours, and not India's either. Your hostility to our race and your subsequent love of this film is noted.

>>217679021
You guys have reached peak 2017 sjw levels of needing to find victimization from every situation and most people find it very obnoxious.

>>217679046
>normal person.jpg

>>217679046
It is a rational reaction against propaganda made against you and your culture and you have no sympathy with that because you're also brainwashed to hate us by these sorts of films that you consume.

>>217677964
>>217678038
Dev Patel looks like a British man with a swarthy complexion. It’s not immersion breaking at all unless you’re trying to be offended by it.
>>217678461
Again, you’re just showing that didn’t watch the movie, or ats the very least, you didn’t pay attention. He does gain virtue; At the very end, in spite of all his screw ups, he chooses to forsake the sash which will prevent his death.

>>217678967
>it's not complicated.
I haven't even been reading the replies from anons seething about race. I'm talking about the replies that don't get or understand the movie.

>>217679108
>please to be doing the understanding sirs, he is brahmin and almost completely alike a britisher
fuck off streetshitter

>>217679092
>propaganda against your culture
So reviving a classic English tale and its message for the big screen is propaganda against English culture?

>>217678995
>>217679003
I 100% guarantee you retarded faggots haven't read the original Gawain. Shitposting about culture wars online is not the same as actually being cultured.

>>217679092
>because you're also brainwashed to hate us
Note that you literally can't write a one sentence response without literally taking a victim stance against me personally for "hating you" based on nothing.

>>217679199
I 100% guarantee you don't understand that image that I made 13 years ago

>>217677616
like uber/lyft? That'd be dope

>>217679199
sup, leftie here. We don't want you amongst our ranks. Go back.

>>217679295
Nigger who asked about your gay images?

>>217679199
I have read Gawain, Malory's Morte d'Arthur and Chretien de Troyes' unfinished Parcival. None of them are about Indians.

>>217679166
A revival would imply that Indians were part of these tales, but they weren't, so it's not a revival it's a chimera, it's a subversion, it's modern and openly political.
>So much of leftist discourse is them pretending to not understand things, thus making discourse impossible.

watered down shite for the masses, completely misses the point of the poem. Adds needless trash that goes no where. Barry keoghan is terrible as always. Dev's not even the problem

>>217679270
You would feel the same if you had a spine.

>>217679588
Being incredibly fragile and obsessed with imaginary wrongs inflicted on you by society is the opposite of "having a spine"

>>217679389
yeah that's what I thought smartypants

>>217679646
>imaginary wrongs
Casting Patel in this film is not in your imagination, it is real and it happened and you're defending it.

>>217679667
It's also not a "wrong inflicted on you by society"

>>217676380
>clanky
>I normally I
I'm not surprised that you found it dull

>>217676587
>Demanding obedience to the zeitgeist and minimizing the importance of his decisions
>In a story that’s about challenging fate and living by your decisions, even if those decisions don’t lead to a good end
Holy shit, by showing outrageous over the Chud you have become the very illiterate that you claim him to be.

>>217679711
Casting him is wrong though. At no point have you acknowledged that this is a modern political move that destroys the substance of the material being adapted. The only reason to accept this sort of propaganda is because you agree with it. There is no way to just "turn your brain off and enjoy it bro" when it's so openly insulting and wrong. Have some self-respect or at least have some empathy to understand why other people disagree with you on this.

>original Arthurian story
a cautionary tale with a lesson to help you in life
>the film
a nihilistic outcome to further blackpill you about the meaning of life

>>217679754
>At no point have you acknowledged that this is a modern political move that destroys the substance of the material being adapted.
Because it isn't.

>>217677113
>Dev Patel easily passes for a swarthy British man.
No he doesn't, liar.

>>217679796
>a nihilistic outcome to further blackpill you about the meaning of life
Failed the ultimate test of media literacy award

>>217669533
Indians taking over UK native population even in their fantasy stories.

>>217679809
When you see an Indian man trying to portray a medieval mythic English knight what is happening in your brain? Do you see it? Do you not see it? Do you pretend to not see it? Do you think "Maybe Indians were knights..."? Do you think "maybe he isn't Indian"? Do you think "modern liberals [my tribe] cast him in this to own the chuds lmao this is epic" ? Be honest, if you can.

>>217678596
>Still can't decide what I think the ending meant. Does the Green Knight kill him as promised? Or was the Green Knight testing if he had the honor to show up and accept defeat?
It doesn't matter, because the point of the story is that he accepted death and found his honor. Whether the knight kills him or lets him live can be left ambiguous.

>>217679809
People had bitchfits over Gods of Egypt not being “native” and Disney made a huge fit over how they needed Aladdin, Mulan, Lion King and Moana “native.” But fuck whitey right?

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>>217669533
basically failed in all of the 5 tenets of being a knight: friendship, generosity, chastity, courtesy, and piety
was it racist to cast a jeet then say hes a shit knight?

>>217679875
I don't really care what the intent behind the casting was, Dev is great in this and I don't think the ethnic background of the main character has any bearing on the story and its effectiveness. I also just generally don't approach things from a mindset where I feel like every piece of media is making decisions directly to attack me and my values, I think that's pretty much narcissistic lunacy.

>>217679956
nobody cares what some braindead libtranny thinks

>>217679916
Both things can be stupid. My whole point is that the people who freak out about this stuff are exactly like 2017 sjws, playbook and all, so you're just supporting my point here.

>>217679956
Maybe you don't have anything of your own that you value and cherish that would upset you if racial enemies systematically destroyed it in a humiliation ritual against you. How would you feel if that happened? Note: you may need a spine to answer this question.

>>217679956
Of course you can say that, the media’s values are your values. That’s called privilege.

>>217679976
Someone literally asked, anon.

>>217679986
Yes, we are just like Ancient Egyptians who demanded representation in some capeshit schlock. You've nailed us here.

>>217679986
That playbook works, why not use it?

>>217680033
As long as you're cool with being exactly the same as the people you claim to hate, you do you.

>>217679956
it was clearly intentional to cast Dev because he's brown. you are deluded to think it is purely acting talent that decided this.

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>>217679956
>I don't really care
I don't really see anything at all. It doesn't look like anything to me.

>>217680056
It got them what they wanted, you sound bitter because the shoe’s on the other foot.

>>217680109
You validate their mindset and tactics by doing the exact same things they do, do you really not see that?

>>217680109
Caring about your race and nation and culture and wanting its master works to be respected and not subverted is SJW because uh something something

>>217677357
>Arthurian fantasy is English
it's Welsh pedantically, and Gawain is one of the original characters of the mythos unlike, say, Lancalot who was a later french addidtion

>>217680136
What’s the term? There are no wrong tactics, only wrong targets. Again, you’re upset the “chuds” figured out how to play.

>>217680136
>you actually care about stuff, you're just a sjw, you should be a based Not Carer™ like me who doesn't care about anything, doesn't stand up for anything, doesn't believe in anything, I'm totally based and not a loser. I wouldn't even care if someone stabbed me, that's how cool I am.

>>217680180
Yeah, that's a very cynical way of looking at things. I was bored of this shit when sjws were doing it, even they have mostly moved on.

>indian
Glad to know ignoring it was and still is the right thing.

I am a pajeet. Here is my take. The movie is surreal and strange enough that the Indian lead and some black supporting cast don't break my immersion because there's not a pretense that it's supposed to be actual Arthurian legend anyways.

The insanely cynical tone, cribbing from Witch (straight down to using Ralph Ineson lol), and the whole thing being a metaphor for "my mom kicked me out of the house and made me grow up" (Lowery has confirmed this) just made it seem totally up its own ass and juvenile. A literal shot of semen doesn't serve the original story of Gawain in any way whatsoever

>>217680171
Arthurian myth is not exclusively welsh, as if they are a completely distinct from the rest of England, only the earliest translation was some old welsh. intact the story takes place across all of England, as well as Brittany

>>217680385
Chretien adapted Percival from some Welsh romance I think, it has roots there but that guy is being a pendant still

>>217680410
*pedant, kek

>>217669533
I wanted to like this so bad. At first I was of the mind that it was a noble and daring effort weighed down by some bad baggage and decisions, that were often a sign of the times. E.g. the aggressive immersion ruining casting of a non-European as a archetypal European knight, changing the core story elements of the poem. And it just wasn't quite well executed with pacing or something.

But the more time has gone on, and the more the story has sunk in, I just moved to thinking/realizing it was woke crap. Seriously, that's what it is. Just another example of some mid hack that didn't want to tell someone else's story but his own (they're almost always wrong that their stupid story is better than the OG author's they're parasitizing), had seething contempt of white western civilization and therefore the story material, and thinks irrational fringe extremist culture war politics is a replacement for a personality.

>>217679956
I don't care that the dude is indian but it's a deliberate choice. Same with the dialogue and framing. Everything in a movie should serve a purpose, from the cast, to the sound design to the font used for subtitles.
Thinking it's just a random casting choice is dellusional at best

>>217680351
>some black supporting cast
One black person in the entire movie, and she's a half Irish pale freckly ginger.

>>217680628
If it’s any consolation, the reason Gawain was brown (when every other knight wasn't) was described as representing his isolated nature. That Gawain never really “belonged” in Camelot.

>the poo knight

>>217680583
How is this movie "woke"? This movie doesn't touch any modern debates around gender, race, or sexuality with a ten foot pole. It's a pretty good modern remake of a fairy tale/myth.

>>217680759
Casting diverse people in European roles is woke. Stop pretending that you don't understand this when you clearly do.

>>217680686
Sure
Rahul from Funhaus would have been a better choice imo

>>217680759
The movie released at a very bad time. That’s really it. Other movies did Arthur worse (Legend of the Sword) and nobody complained beyond the usual accusations of schlock. I guess to put it simply, people are desperate for a movie that’s “for them” made in the modern era - though I say that, and remember Ballad of Buster Scruggs exists, and that’s an excellent example of faithful mythology and respectful casting. If they cast Gawain as white the movie would’ve become a classic.

>>217680686
>the reason Gawain was brown (when every other knight wasn't) was described as representing his isolated nature. That Gawain never really “belonged” in Camelot.
Can't tell if you're actually saying this kind of stuff in good faith or just trolling, but no. Completely wrong. It's just woke propaganda.

Arthur, literally the symbol of England anglo white people, is sickly and dying without heir (which isn't exactly how it is in Arthurian myth). Indian Gawain, despite obviously not being remotely English, is the only knight of the roundtable related to Arthur by blood (this makes no sense by the way, and the movie still pushes it through hard anyways, as if Arthur's witch sister is spontaneously Indian or gypsy or something) and therefore his de facto heir. It's pretty point blank communicating in visual language (aka propaganda) that old English white men must die and make way for demographic replacement, regardless of their anxiety of if they are ready to handle it. It's gonna happen anyway. Also you get to show a white women lusting after a brown man and even having children with him. Bonus!

It has nothing to do with the original story and helps nothing in the movie story telling - it actively confuses it in fact. It's just more crap modern propaganda jammed in in lue of actual good storytelling.

>>217680759
>sexuality
It's kinda the plot for half of the movie tho
you missed the cumrag?

>>217680920
>A man is attracted to women
This is now woke

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>>217680990
Every single one of your posts ITT

>>217680866
>respectful casting
Its full of jews lol

>>217681017
Making fun of a take by exaggerating it in greentext is 4chan culture, you're just revealing yourself as a tourist.

>>217680990
You mention a debate around sexuality and missed the obvious magical element of the cumrag and how it literally becomes a plot device to show how much of a failure he is?

>>217681070
I'm retroactively inserting myself into 4chan history just like Dev Patel in the 14th century. You shouldn't have a problem with this.

>>217681078
Please explain how you think anything related to sexuality in the movie relates to "woke" issues

>>217681155
If you could convincingly pull it off nobody would give a shit, this is actually a better metaphor than you'd expect for a shitpost

>>217680759
I just wrote out the subtext of how white culture must die for "modern" diverse and new people and stories. Replacing not just demographically, but the movie itself is replacing, or attempting to, an iconic work of late medieval literature with a new "fresh" urban story that twists the chivalric "old" story on its head, to be about failure, not liking your parents, gay sex and cum rags.

The original story is enduring because it ultimately has themes of finding higher purpose in the face of terrifying unstoppable mortality by a stoic knight that wavers but ultimately accepts and breaks through. The movie deliberately rejects this theme to tell instead a story of a piece of shit knight that is shameful because he can't be loyal to a prostitute gf (that has a heart of gold).

There's also subtext themes of, as usual, men being inferior to women. The final post credit scene is a young girl, as I recall, inheriting the Kingdom of the Britons. But women are constantly more intelligent and reasonable than men in the movie. In the OG poem women aren't bad but aren't all that relevant obviously, it being a story about a knight and men. They tempt Gawain and try to get under his skin by mocking his manhood, but that's about it. And the mysterious lord's wife I guess has magic sashes, but she was working for the green knight in secret, at his behest.

>>217681244
Nobody other than you thinks I can't "pull off" being a "4chan poster".

>>217680920
Why be willfully obtuse? Sexuality as in anything that's not straight. Gawain is straight. If you actually watched the movie you are probably going to bring up the hunter lord kissing him but that happens in the original poems too iirc, and it's not meant to be sexual.

>>217681302
it is kinda sexual in the film though

>>217681246
>not liking your parents, gay sex
None of this is in the movie. idk why you are obsessed about him ejaculating during a handjob from a magical construct of his girlfriend.
>because he can't be loyal to a prostitute gf (that has a heart of gold).
There's nothing in the film that shows she has a "heart of gold" she's just a peasant whore with untenable dreams of being raised up to royalty, and that's exactly why he can't be loyal to her and make promises. He's not ashamed, he wears the bell she gives him, he's just being realistic because he can't marry her no matter how badly she or he wants it.
>The final post credit scene is a young girl, as I recall, inheriting the Kingdom of the Britons.
There have been multiple queen regents of England anon. Pick up a history book dude.
>But women are constantly more intelligent and reasonable than men in the movie.
This is false. There aren't many speaking roles, only four women speak iirc, only the magical version of Essel is shown to be intelligent or bookish. King Arthur and the hunter lord are shown to be wise men.
>They tempt Gawain and try to get under his skin by mocking his manhood
Doesn't happen.
> And the mysterious lord's wife I guess has magic sashes, but she was working for the green knight in secret, at his behest.
No the magic version of Essel has the sash because Gawain's mom is manipulating the Lord and his Wife. His mom was guiding him through the entire journey, she's the fox, and the old blind woman in the lord's castle.

>>217681797
>None of this is in the movie
It's all in the movie. I believe I heard that the Director gave an interview and admitted the inspiration for his "take" on the story was drawing inspiration from feeling overwhelmed and left out in the cold when his mom kicked him out as a young adult or something. Regardless of how true that is, the story emphasizes his relationship with his mother, and him being a failson, none of which is in the original material. Gawain in the OG is an adult and capable individual, that just doesn't translate into him being incorruptible and willing to embrace his own death - his relationship with his mommy and living at home is irrelevant. In the movie, his mom seems to be Morgan le Fay, who is engineering the entire conflict for him (this is kind of true of the OG but Morgan isn't his mom and is only trying to fuck with Camelot).

You don't seem to be aware that this movie is in a dialog with its source material, and there are reasons and motivations behind the changes.

In the OG the mysterious Lord that knows the location of the "Green Chapel", Bertilak, is the Green Knight in disguise (spoilers). He keeps delaying Gawain by withholding information to give him a final test of his honor, by the honesty game of giving each other gifts of whatever they find by days end. He goes away hunting every morning to give Gawain game, and his wife keeps trying to come on to Gawain. Gaiwan is forced to thread the needle by giving Bertilak kisses (that were mostly forced on him) when he comes back, meaning Gawain secretly won the test. It ends with the final fuck you of her giving him a way out of his impending death and him finally breaking down and not giving the Green Knight this magic item, at first. The movie changes this all into Bertilak is just some guy that is "testing" Gawain with his beard wife as an excuse to force him to kiss him, because he's a gay predator. He's not anyone special - the women in his castle might be. Subverted!

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>>217677186
henlo kindly Sars pls do the needful

>>217681017
>You can't say anything anymore!
>What can't you say?
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>>217682633
What are you talking about? Are you just arguing with a strawman in your head?

>>217669533
It's so beautiful but merciful gods is it slooooooooow

>>217681302
>Sexuality as in anything that's not straight.
Sorry my mind doesn't jump to gay sex when I think of sexuality, but I get your point

>>217680226
>I was bored of this shit when sjws were doing it, even they have mostly moved on.
They obviously haven't, since they cast an Indian in such a role.

i got the phrase
>twernt enough!!
stuck in my head after and think about it whenever anything isn't enough