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>Decide to finally give the series a chance since I never saw it growing up
>First two seasons were decent
>Season 3 plunges hard in quality
>Fourth season it becomes le wacky randumb humor with dated references and Family Guy tier gross out humor
>Latest season feel like it was written entirely by women writers. The Beth episodes especially with Summer are beyond fucking unwatchable

Goddamn no wonder this show has been completely memory holed by everyone
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>>217687760
Yeah it was pretty good in the beginning, utilizing the fact it was a cartoon, got pretty bad later, don't even remember when I stopped watching it
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>>217687760
they forced women writers in the 3rd season
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I was told to watch that garbage for most of the decade bro. You are correct, its practically unwatchable after the first season and you can see exactly when they ran out of ideas and just started cashing in paychecks. Still see old pensioners staggering around town with rick and morty tshirts on lol no one else even remembers it exists, they watch smile friends now.
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Watching anything after Roiland left is idiotic. S3 was s huge declin3 but after that they had the vat of acid ep which was classic
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>>217687760
I watched it in 2014 when it was new
I liked season 1 and 2, after that it was not good
I vaguely remember lots of late teens/early 20s people suddenly acting like nihilism and retarded shit like that was super cool, even though the show writers of R&M probably didn’t ever think the shit they wrote in their animated fiction was actually applicable irl
This was the same time period when the rapper Logic was big and peaked, and I think they had him cameo as an animated rapper lol
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>>217687760
season 3 was where it peaked, actually, outside of pickle rick. season 4 is where the entire writers room got cleaned out and replaced with the dipshit who gave us ant man 3
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>>217687844
the most overt example of women destroying the show as soon as they were brought into the writing room in season 3 is the insufferable chink psychiatrist
only a woman would think inserting some annoying bitching karen mary sue who's not funny into a comedy show is a good idea
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>>217687914
Season 3 was its decline not peak. The Pickle Rick episode absolutely tarinshed the show not just for the meme but due the psychiatrist self insert character. Also the ABCs of Beth was when the show started to take itself seriously with the whole "You're smart which is badass because the world is yours when you don't care"
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>>217687942
you're just wrong
>ABCs of Beth
written by mike mcmahan before he left to do lower decks and solar opposites. again, the show peaked in season 3 before the room got swept out
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>>217687760
Dan Harmon is a retarded faggot.
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>>217687760
It is literally not worth watching beyond Season 2. I wish I had stopped there.
>>217687914
Lol no. Seasons 1 and 2 were objectively peak. There were so many shitty episodes in Season 3, like the one where Summer dates that jacked killer in the Mad Max universe and the entire episode is about her "acting out" because of her parents' divorce, or the episode where Rick and Morty purge their "toxicity" and Morty becomes a sociopath while Rick becomes a spineless pushover. That shit is not interesting or funny, and as other anons have pointed out, it was almost certainly written by women. The entire focus is on weirdly psychologizing the characters instead of just telling good jokes. No one is watching Rick and Morty for fictional therapy sessions. Only the 1st episode and Morty's Mindblowers were watchable. And The Ricklantis Mixup was decent. The rest were shit.
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>>217687760
It's because seasons 1 and 2 were animated in the Philippines by Filipinos
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>>217688836
>the episode where Rick and Morty purge their "toxicity" and Morty becomes a sociopath while Rick becomes a spineless pushover
that's a good one you turd. it's written by this guy;

https://rickandmorty.fandom.com/wiki/Tom_Kauffman
>. That shit is not interesting or funny, and as other anons have pointed out, it was almost certainly written by women. The entire focus is on weirdly psychologizing the characters instead of just telling good jokes.
it was almost certainly written by tom kauffman, probably with ideas from harmon. you just can't recognise harmon's grubby little hands.
>Only the 1st episode and Morty's Mindblowers were watchable. And The Ricklantis Mixup was decent. The rest were shit.
you just have shit taste
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>>217688848
the pinoy boyz gave us the stinkiest parts of dragon ball super though
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>>217688903
>That's a good one
It literally isn't, as I already explained. No one cares about 5 layers of Freudian analysis about these fictional characters. We want them to be in wacky, funny situations so we can laugh. I guarantee you if you set up a poll right now in this very thread, most people would disagree with you.
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>>217689027
most zoomers, like you, are wrong and have shit taste
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>>217689110
I'm a millennial. Want to make any more stupid and irrelevant assumptions? Or are you just going to admit you're wrong?
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>>217689234
then you're a millennial who hasn't seen community and you're also obviously very stupid. if you want to see mindless explosions just watch solar opposites s1, that's literally what roiland did
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say what you like about the show, but it's still quotable as ever

>MORTY WE'VE GOT TO GO TO BENDIGO TO GET ME GREEN CUBE
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>>217687931
best part is that woman writer went on to helm She-Hulk
>look at me bruce, they turned me into a green pickle!
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>>217688848
The animation was always worthless shit, so this tracks
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>>217687760
>Fourth season it becomes le wacky randumb humor
That shit was always in it because they liked having Roiland ad lib wacky random shit constantly. Interdimemsional Cable is a prime example of entire episodes being made around his randumb bullshit.
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I quit watching a few episodes into season 3.
People kept telling me that 'It's improved... IT'S IMPROVED, REALLY!', but I fucking knew.
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>>217687760
>growing up
Jesus Christ are you 12? This came out when I was 18.
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>>217689337
I watched the first two seasons which were fun but you could see the cracks forming even in season 2. That "woe is me" dramatic character moment at the end of the the hive mind episode was gay as shit and a harbinger of things to come. I watched some of season 3 but could tell the magic was dead. I'm sure there have been some okay episodes made since then. I just happened to watch a newer one with my friend after years of not watching and it was the Planetina episode which is one of the worst things I've ever seen. In defense of my friend he was still watching here and there but had not seen that particular episode. We were both kind of shocked at how it wasn't just bad and melodramatic, but utterly unfunny. Not a joke in sight. Whoever is writing the show does not believe they're writing for a comedy. I think they believe this show is "important" or something.
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I would rewatch Season 1 and 2 any time, any day. Season 3 was ok, but season 4...oh god, what the hell, magic dragon orgies? Then some seasons later: Oh it's Rick and 2 crows watch the opening! it's anime style! cringiest shit I've ever seen. Rick and Morty dieded for good and not even the Prime Rick episodes were worth watching really. I wish this series hadn't insisted too much in itself, now the series references itself every two seconds
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>>217689412
Justin Roiland got cancelled over... Drugs? Porn stars?
I don't remember. Who cares?
Dan Harmon was SO carefully dodging his own cancellation about trying to fuck one of the Community writers.
Sacrificing this show to the cunts was part of his penance. He also had to do a podcast with the world's only fat Asian cunt (she wrote SheHulk) about toxic masculinity or something for a while.

Didn't really help him all that much... But then, it never really does, does it?
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>>217689249
Why would I need to see Community in order to have an opinion on Rick and Morty? They're separate shows.
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>>217687914
I definitely think Season 3 was overhated but it was still worse than the previous seasons
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>>217689571
lmao. it's always been harmon all the way. you can't understand rick and morty unless you've watched and liked community. what the fuck did you think that tv show unity put on was referring to lol
>>217689583
nah it had way fewer episodes where rick and morty just dicked around and fewer jerry b-plots. it was the peak of the series
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>>217687760
>The Beth episodes especially with Summer
Those were the fucking shit I have ever laid my eyes upon
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>>217689547
I liked the Bird Person and council of Ricks stuff at first because it felt like they were taking the piss out of silly shows that take their lore too seriously...until they started taking their lore too seriously...
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>>217689704
>To be fair, you have to be pretty high IQ to understand that it's always been Harmon all the way
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>>217689794
nah you just need to have watched community. it also had big writers room clearouts just like what killed rick and morty
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>>217689704
>episodes where rick and morty just dicked around
This is what the focus of the show should always have been. They set up the multiverse stuff as a joke and an excuse to just make an episode about anything at any time. I bet you think the monster of the week episodes of X-Files are "filler".
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>>217689704
Uh huh... Hey, do you still have the shirt you are wearing in this video?
https://youtu.be/-GC5rAX0xHg
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>>217689274
I don't know you, but I can already tell that you are a top bloke.
Anons! Give this ripper legend some (You)s!
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>>217689825
I'm literally watching x-files rn and i swear the monster of the week episodes still have direct chronology and canon whereas iirc with rick and morty the random episodes don't. but fuck that show is so aids idr maybe they do play into the grander "plot"
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>>217689704
>Season 3 was definitely the peak of Rick and Morty
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>>217689704
So because Rick and Morty made 1 reference to Community, I have to watch that show in order to understand why Seasons 3 and beyond are good? That's what you're saying?
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>>217689858
Nice. It holds up so well doesn't it? But yes they drop hints at the larger plot in a lot of those episodes. You just have to be willing to connect a few dots. I know I sound like a lore fag now but X-Files was always meant to be serialized and it isn't a comedy lol (but neither is Rick and Morty anymore).
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>I finally decided to watch *reddit garbage*
what drives anons to do this?
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>>217689825
roiland did this with solar opposites s1 and it sucked ass.
>>217689835
i don't even like rick and morty that much lmao, it's just a fact that season 3 was the peak and you can't get it unless you also watched community
>>217689890
seethe
>>217689892
season 3 is good, beyond that is not good because harmon cleared out the writers room like he did on community. that's why you need to watch community to get rick and morty.
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>>217689933
ya this is pretty tight I had never seen it before except random episodes as a kid.
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>>217689987
>you need to watch community
Sorry, but I can't. Donald Glover is in it :/
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>>217689987
>you need to watch community to get rick and morty.
I actually don't, though. The show is its own separate entity, and it's not complex. The writing just degraded over time, as it does with basically every show in existence. Season 3 was not nearly as good as Seasons 1 and 2. And Season 4 was significantly worse than Season 3. Everything beyond is completely unwatchable.
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>>217690097
>The writing just degraded over time, as it does with basically every show in existence.
always linked to changes in the writers room
>Season 3 was not nearly as good as Seasons 1 and 2.
wrong
>Season 4 was significantly worse than Season 3.
yeah because harmon got a new writers room. just look at writing credits on rick and morty episodes;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rick_and_Morty_episodes#Season_3_(2017)

jeff fucking loveness got 4 credits in season 4
>Everything beyond is completely unwatchable.
again, because the room kept devolving
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>>217689987
>harmon cleared out the writers room like he did on community. that's why you need to watch community to get rick and morty.
What did the retard mean by this?
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>>217690162
bro is illiterate and calling others retards lol
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>The writing of Rick and Morty got worse when they got new writers.
>It's impossible to understand this concept if you didn't watch Community, though.
Am I missing something? Serious question. I'm a little intoxicated but this entire premise feels like weaponized autism.
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>>217690131
Yeah, I don't understand what everyone else is finding so difficult to understand?
It's like they don't even know about that Gypsy that Dan Harmon ran over with his car who cursed him to intentionally ruin his writer's room after a few good seasons or the Mango King will rise during the Blood Meridian (PRAISE BE UPON HIS FRUITY HEAD! MA'WA FFFLTULLKKMMMMMNNNGGG-G!) who'll fuck Chevy Chase in the ass, thus triggering the Three Apocalypses of Wabba Dabba Lub

I mean, that's what Community was ALL ABOUT, really!

Weird how people can't follow such a simple and coherent and completely logical point.
Huh.
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>>217687880
>after Roiland left

*Kicked out
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>>217687760
You can stop sugarcoating it. It wasn't decent ever. It's stupid slop for stoners that aged terribly. It is the equivalent of *HOLDS UP SPORK* humor.
>OMG he burped lel
>MUH science joke!
Reddit tier humor. Never understood why any of my retard friends told me it was actually good. Sure enough, all of them pretty much hate it now.
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>>217690275
harmon intentionally ruins his writers rooms after a few good seasons because he's a control freak and a cheapskate who prefers to surround himself with juniors. it's because those are the guys forced him out during season 4 of community, leading him to fire them all when he came back in 5. i don't even know why i'm bothering to explain this to a knuckledragger like you lmao, i guess it's for other people who might read this thread.
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>>217689987
>i don't even like rick and morty that much lmao, it's just a fact that season 3 was the peak and you can't get it unless you also watched community
>in order to understand this show, watch this other thing he ruined, that justifies everything he does turning to shit!
>>217690263
I guess it's the moron's way of saying Dan Harmon is a retard who sabotages everything he does.
>>217690369
>harmon intentionally ruins his writers rooms after a few good seasons because he's a control freak
He's also an autistic drunk who can't work with others.
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>>217690421
>in order to understand this show, watch this other thing he ruined, that justifies everything he does turning to shit!
lmao he created it and ruined it
>I guess it's the moron's way of saying Dan Harmon is a retard who sabotages everything he does.
no it fucking isn't, because dan harmon's goal is not to make a good show but to be the lord of his domain and to have his narcissistic ego stroked. he is not "sabotaging" himself, he is making the show worse on purpose
>He's also an autistic drunk who can't work with others.
you can't just call me a moron and then add shit onto my hypothesis lmao, go fuck yourself. what a waste of time it was educating you
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>>217689987
I’m not any of the anons you replied to, but you seem really annoying. Like why argue this much about a show that stopped being good more than a decade ago lol
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>>217690465
if i'm making a point you don't care about about a show you don't care about, and you're reading it, that makes you a moron. i do in fact care about this which is why i'm talking about it.
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>>217690369
>those are the guys forced him out
The network forced him out due to concern over a possible sexual harassment lawsuit, as has already been addressed in this very thread.

I give the rest of your fanfic 3/10
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>>217690539
>The network forced him out due to concern over a possible sexual harassment lawsuit, as has already been addressed in this very thread.
yeah, against one of his writers lol. it's not even the primary reason-he procrastinated all the time and was a perfectionist because, again, dan harmon doesn't want to make a good show he wants to be gregory house. if they'd closed ranks around him the network wouldn't have canned him. there's a reason why he nuked the entire room before season 5 started.
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>>217690442
>Dan Harmon's goal is to be the lord of his domain and to have his narcissistic ego stroked
>Therefore:
>He makes good things bad on purpose, since the logical consequence of failure is universal admiration and licence to behave however you want
Do... Do you think the things that you're saying MAKE SENSE, anon?
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>>217690585
I give this fanfic 2/10
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>>217690621
>He makes good things bad on purpose
making things bad is a side effect of him exerting total control, which is his main goal. he doesn't set out to make a bad show or a good show, but makes a bad show as a consequence of his goal of being a control freak.
>>217690635
yawn
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>>217687760
Season 1 is the only one that isn't fully contaminated with the self-aware masturbatory bullshit that Harmon loves. 2 & 3 carry some momentum and I think I even enjoyed some episodes in 4 & 5 but there were more embarrassingly unfunny episodes than good ones by then. I'm not sure I'd only blame women writers, it seemed like everyone involved decided it was some character study as opposed to the first season which is almost completely irreverent and even makes fun of that specific type of unnecessary sentimentality.
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>calls Harmon out on his bad writing
>puts him down after he embarrassed his family
>gets himself fired for screaming NIGGER on set
Chevy did nothing wrong, Harmon was a faggot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXRf06GFMIc
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>the joke is violence
community spastic is right about one thing
Solar Opposites sucks
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>>217690662
>Things get bad when he steps back or is removed
>... Because he is control freak and his control has a negative effect
>...A negative effect that is inversely proportional to his level of control
MEDS.
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>>217690738
>Things get bad when he steps back or is removed
being in total control of the show isn't "stepping back" and community sucked ass post season 3. 5 and 6 are just as bad as 4
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>>217690758
>being in total control of the show isn't "stepping back"
>community sucked ass post season 3
>(Dan Harmon was fired after season 3)
What does your brain pretzel taste like?
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>>217690442
I finally understand what you've been trying to articulate. My only question left is: so what? You've successfully drawn a parallel between Harmon's actions behind the scenes of both shows. No one was questioning the fact that Harmon forcing out Roiland and hiring new writers was what lead to R&M dropping off a cliff. What is your point? Now that I finally understand what you're saying, it comes across as just dropping behind the scenes knowledge that no one cares about (while being intentionally cryptic). I don't care about Dan Harmon or your psychological assessment of him. This was a thread about Rick and Morty being funny for a couple seasons, meh for a third, and shit going forward. Everyone already knew why. The writers changed. You should have just said "Dan did the same shit on Community and I'm pretty sure it's because etc...". Instead you went on this pompous "Heh...you can't understand why R&M became bad unless you're a Communityhead like me" rant.

I get the impression you just got butthurt because so many people consider your personal favorite season (3) to be the OBVIOUS beginning of the decline. I'm ashamed at myself for typing this up in a Rick and Morty thread of all places. Congrats, you won. I kneel.
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>>217690162
He's arguing that R&M followed the same path as Community where it starts out with with a relatively simple premise of being a pastiche (Breakfast Club / Back to the Future), had a good first couple seasons where the episodes were great because they used the pastiche as a platform for incorporating other funny ideas in episodes that were standalone and narratively straightforward (S1 of Community is mostly them going to different wacky classes and school events each week, S1 of R&M is mostly Rick's invention of the week having wacky consequences). And then the adoration of the incredibly annoying fanbase got to Harmon and made him think he was an infalliable god so he started shoving endless metahumor, forced melodrama, godawful serialized plotlines, and retreads of popular episodes that pale in comparison to the original into it until it was so far up its own ass that it became terrible.

This comparison has been made constantly on here since S2 of R&M first aired, which is probably why that anon half-assed explaining it.
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>>217690798
Communityfreak*
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>>217690797
he was rehired in 5, fired the entire room and carried out his narcissistic plan
>>217690798
>The writers changed. You should have just said "Dan did the same shit on Community and I'm pretty sure it's because etc...". Instead you went on this pompous "Heh...you can't understand why R&M became bad unless you're a Communityhead like me" rant.
BRO. I FUCKING SAID;
>season 3 was where it peaked, actually, outside of pickle rick. season 4 is where the entire writers room got cleaned out and replaced with the dipshit who gave us ant man 3
idk why i should have to give a basic rundown on community for someone who supposedly knows shit about rick and morty. i shouldn't have to explain this shit at all. saying "oh should watch community if you haven't" should be the maximum amount of work i have to do, i shouldn't have to explain all this shit and you should just watch community.
>>217690828
my point was very specifically about the writers rooms of both shows being cleared out in the exact same fashion. how is this hard to get
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I think this annoying windbag who keeps ranting about community itt is doing so because he hates anyone slightly disagreeing with him. Normally people who are like that are people that aren’t confident in what they think
Most people wouldn’t go this far over such a nothing burger lol
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Community sucks, I tired to rewatch it recently and every single fucking bit of it aged terribly. Every character gets just goes over the same bits over and over and over.
"HAHAHA THAT GUY HAS STAR SHAPED SIDEBURNS LOOK KEN JEONG IS TALKING LOUD AND SAYING INAPPROPRIATE THINGS FOR A TEACHER"
I'm convinced anybody who says they like that show is either mid fapping to young Alison Brie or hasn't actually seen it in years, it's liquid dogshit. This is the show that tried to employ JOHN OLIVER as a comedic actor, to predictably disastrous results.
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>>217687894
>logic
oh that fuckin fag, i forgot about him. did you know he’s black btw?
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>>217690918
>idk why i should have to give a basic rundown on community for someone who supposedly knows shit about rick and morty
Because I've never seen Community and don't care to because it has Donald Glover in it. It's a different show you nutjob lmao. Never claimed to "know shit" about Rick and Morty either because I gave up on it after the lame third season.
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>>217691041
Retarded zoomer take nobody cares
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>>217691139
I watched it while it was airing retard (mostly because Brie and Brita's actress at the time were super hot), it's dogshit. The couple of good episodes do not outweigh how awful the rest is, your taste is demonstrably shit.
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>>217691095
So he says. He did a podcast with his dad back in 2024. His dad is like 60% white and does not even look black himself. Spiritually tho, his dad is a deadbeat hood rat
His mixed race dad apparently abandoned him, which logic reveals in the episode. He also cried a bunch during that episode too while asking his dad “why”, made me feel kinda bad ngl. His dad didn’t say anything but he looked ashamed.
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>>217691106
>Never claimed to "know shit" about Rick and Morty either because I gave up on it after the lame third season.
...
>>217690978
i actually just enjoy arguing
>>217691041
it's fun with smart dialogue and creative high concept episodes. and yes, brie is cute
>>217691167
oh but the majority of episodes are absolutely shit
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>>217691182
I wouldn’t call this arguing, you’re treating this like it’s all or nothing, over nothing. I wouldn’t want to be in a room with you honestly, you seem like a school shooter type
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>>217691199
nigga it's 4chan, are you 19 or something
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>>217691215
It is, and I am king anon
Thanks for checking
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>>217691182
"Arguing" usually involves trying to make a point. You're chastising people for not liking season 3 of Rick and Morty because they didn't watch Community. What is your "argument"? If it's any variation of "You aren't allowed to critique Rick and Morty if you haven't watched Community" it's one of the most autistic things I've ever seen in 20 years on 4chan.
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>>217689412
lol I watched S4 after a friend kept ragging on me about how the show hasn't actually gotten that bad.
I showed my other friends the planitina episode and they were in complete shock. I genuinely can't believe how bad it is.
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>>217691248
if you cba to read the thread then that's on you
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>>217691272
My favorite part is when Morty yells at his mom "You just don't understand!" (he actually says this) and he runs off to his room to cry in bed. (This is all played completely straight btw, dramatic music and everything.)
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>>217691368
Yeah, what was up with that scene.



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