>>218053245
Because they don't know that the tech has actually been around since the 60's and all actors are actually AI generated.

didn't this guy Broderick someone

>>218053245
I'm not. Hollywood can't die soon enough.

>>218053245
because actors will starve

>>218053276
Yep, except he was imprisoned for his crime.

Genuine souled people can feel humanity slipping away, and feel a moral duty to stop it.

>>218053245
AI ain’t Christian

This Nick fella seems to spend all of his free time being upset on twitter

>>218053245
Because they have a sense of taste

>>218053245
I’m not an AI fan but anti-AI faggots are so perpetually mean-spirited and angry that I can’t really identify with them

I would never pay to see a movie I could make myself for free

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>>218053310
I do not understand the vehement contrarian AI defending that you see on this website. I think it’s mostly shills and the occasional retard who has to think the opposite of what Reddit thinks, who else would defend this shit?

AI movies don't really exist and it's mostly the nation of India spamming the internet 24/7 with the promise that it'll happen one day

>>218053245
>Why are people so opposed to ai movies?
A lot of people have their jobs tied to movie, films, and videos being made. They are very threatened by AI. There's A LOT of behind the scenes talks going on Hollywood right now. Many actors and studios are afraid of losing their jobs.

Even people with secondary roles like camera, lighting, film crews, and realizing that AI is going to change things. For the first time in 120 years, people in the industry finally can see the end of their careers. The film landscape is going to change massively in 5 years. Imagine being a camera operator in films and noticing your job will be gone in a few years.

My friend worked in film. He had about 7 years experience. As soon as he saw AI getting too good, he quit the industry in 2023. He said that AI was going to make his job obselete in a few years and decided he didn't want to stick around for when the industry collapses. Now he works in a much more stable job.

>>218053867
>I’m not an AI fan but anti-AI faggots are so perpetually mean-spirited and angry that I can’t really identify with them
Agreed. Some people are too emotional.

>>218053245
What's the point in automating creative domains?

>>218053867
>I'm having anti-AI fatigue

>>218054058
MORE CONTENT

>>218054072
It's easy to be fatigued by delusion retards like >>218053964

>>218053934
Pajeets

>>218054072
I legit am. They’re getting just as annoying as the jeets who worship AI.

>>218053245
>Why are people so opposed to ai movies?
It will demonstrate how worthless the vast majority of people are.

>>218053879
If it’s able to make productions that can be profitable, you won’t be granted access to the tools for any reasonable fee.

>>218054113
Eh...No.

AI tools aren't exactly hard to acquire. Many are open source. The issue is you need a top of the line computer, a massive amount of RAM, and training the AI on pictures and videos. It can be done, but Cloud AI (like Seedance) is more convenient and faster than doing it yourself.

>>218053245
maybe they should make some good movies instead of whinging about ai all the time.
everyone in hollywood being unemployed can only be good for the world

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The one thing I wonder about with ai movies is how people review them based on traditional films. You can't really celebrate an "actor's" "performance"... can you?

>>218053245
Because they're fake and gay and incredibly ugly. There is literally no upside for the consumer.

I'm opposed to movies. Hollywood, AI and YouTube is all slop.

>>218054360
>Because they're fake and gay and incredibly ugly
just like modern movies kekerino

>>218054344
Why the fuck would you celebrate actor's performance? Are you a woman?

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>>218054360
>There is literally no upside for the consumer.
Actors without jobs is incredible benefit for me.

>>218053245
Contempt for the audience is the rule whether they use AI or not. Hate them equally

>>218053245
>General Cinema Dynamics
We live in a parody

>>218053245
I assume the price for the ticket or DVD of the movie will be 50 cents, since they didn't actually make the film, AI did.

>>218053245
Its mostly the people who have a lot of money to lose who are ironically paying AI bots to complain on social media about AI.

>>218054113
Sure, just like movies/games that can be profitable are never ever leaked on the internet for free downloading/streaming.

>>218053245
AI is fine, we just need auteurs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKnE2Wn1VNQ

>>218053245
everyone online is having a melty over AI. theres a mod on the steam workshop that has a single AI generated image and half the comments are about the image, not the mod.
people are losing their minds over this shit, it would be funny if it wasnt the prelude to violent revolution.

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>>218053245
>Why are people so opposed to ai movies?
Same reason why I'm opposed to modern movies.
It's specifically because I like movies

>>218054541
You shouldn't be this new at it. Ppl also thought e-celebs were a truly viable disruption to the star system, yet they hit a bottleneck on subscribers or as revenue +eventually want to be absorbed into the system for bigger bags or "legitimate" status. When you're given a tool too good to be true freely, you should ask what the endgame is.

>>218054972
*ad revenue

>>218054972
So you are saying that eventually AI movies are definitely going to be on broadcast, streaming, and theaters next to traditional movies just like e-celebs are starring in hollywood films next to nepobabies?

>>218053245
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I am not going to give up this fight against AI regardless of you demoralizing motherfuckers, because I vividly remember when NFTs were being touted as the next big thing, but people raised enough of a fucking stink about them to destroy them. I don't think AI is going to be destroyed, mind you, but at the very least, we can curb this shit and put some legislation against it. Fuck AI feature-length films. You guys are always complaining about how fucking sloppish and unoriginal and uninspired and uncreative and generic modern Hollywood movies are. Why the fuck would you give people an opportunity to make them even more soulless than before? Fucking think for one fucking second. This isn't even a fucking partisan issue.

>>218053320
Neither are the Jews who run Hollywood

>pay to see
lol

>>218053245
he's right. people are going to get on board with ai content 100%, especially future generations.

>>218053245
>Why are people so opposed to ai movies?
i personally don't care about muh datacenters narrative, however i won't care about any ai movie until they fix the decoherence after 10 seconds problem, and allow an artist to compose a scene vs roll the dice on a prompt

>>218054360
AI isn’t meant to appeal to consumers. AI shills are selling products to people who want to be AI shills. The ultimate idea is that “one day you too could be rich by selling this shit”. It’s a tech bro pyramid scheme and all the dickheads clapping their hands for it are the rubes.

>>218055232
it's not demoralizing, it's the truth. the largest governments and corporations in the world are investing countless billions; ai isn't going anywhere, ai will significantly impact hollywood. nfts arent even remotely similar.
complain all you want but i'm not going to bother spending my time worrying about hollywood employment when they never do the same for any other industry. nepotistic, degenerate, talent less slop factory

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>>218055059
I watched ad segment on TV during some family gathering. FOUR ads in a row were AI made and nobody fucking noticed. Insurance, car, dog food and internet provider. It's literally fucking everywhere already, people just seethe during high profile stuff.
Even shitheads from WGA didn't just protest AI, they protested studios using AI for scripts, they wanted to keep the option for themselves.

>>218055232
>QUICKLY, GOVERNMENT SAVE ME
I cannot wait for you to be jobless.

>>218053245
I can’t even imagine getting your panties in a twist over this shit. I know it’s a meme at this point, but really, go outside for once

>>218055304
what is this trend of putting bro after everything you dont like.

>>218055378
him comparing AI to NFTs just shows how he isn't paying attention and just lumps in every popular trend with each other. a good indicator for low intelligence.

>>218055232
lol this nigger thinks complaining about nft's destroyed them and not the fact they were worthless retard shit did it. now he's gonna whine about ai hoping for the same thing to happen. god, i love being smart

>>218053245
Image having a whole life to live and wasting it by complaining about robots on social media

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Idk about this movie shit but AI Claude is amazing (the pro version) It's truly over bros...

>>218055415
NFTs lasted for maybe 6 months. AI hype started in late 2022 and is still growing. it takes a real retard to think they're on the same level.

>>218054035
>lighting
Have you seen a movie released in the past 10-20 years? Lightniggers deserve the rope.
CGI replaced practical effects artists, set designers, and 2D artists. Where were all these luddites then? Hollywood lost its SOVL decades ago, and were supposed to care now? Fuck em. I could count on one hand the number of worthwhile movies with a budget of $50m+ that have come out within the past 15 years.

>>218055314
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>>218055378
I don't care what you nihilistic incel pieces of garbage have to say. You're on the wrong side of history. AI is nothing more than another means for elites to control us, and you're willingly applauding them? You're not invited to the club, you fucking idiots. You're cheering on the death of humanity. For what?

>>218055232
Any non-NPC knew NFTs were a meme. They were inherently retarded and meant to be an easier form of scamming and money laundering than already existed.

AI can actually do stuff. The two are nowhere near the same.

>>218055492
>le wrong side of history
epic bait my brother

>>218055495
>AI can actually do stuff.
You mean stealing the ideas and work of human beings?

>>218055507
retard

Avary is a nobody, but I'm waiting for real artists to start using AI. I think it will happen sooner or later.

>>218053245
I'm not opposed to AI. I don't watch films (or TV) anymore; lost interest. The last time I went to the cinema was 2014 to watch THE RAID 2.

I hope the US movie industry collapses and the faggots responsible for boring the pants off the public for the past 10+ years lose their livelihoods. Watching them squirm is amusing. Maybe they should learn to code.

>>218055511
The only people here who are retarded are people like you who actively support AI.

>>218055507
All humans steal from other humans and put a slight twist on a previous idea/style. I don't see your point. If you're so derivate as to be easily copied by AI then perhaps you're not as creative as you once thought.

>>218055518
great argument fag

>>218055492
i'm not applauding anything lol. just stating what's obviously happening

>>218055495
>knew NFTs were a meme
If they actually got used the way they were intended they could be based, but as is with literally no integration into any platform that isn't just a trading platform, they are impotent and retarded.

>>218055523
We have seen how AI literally just copies the style of an artist almost exactly, not in a way that can be considered derivative of many sources like actual human beings perform.

>>218055544
>copies the style
you mean like
a version of something
but derivative?
holy fuck you are so goddamn
stupid

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>>218053245
>Eheh the Hollywood Jewish cabala is finished, thanks to AI, anyone can make movies!
>Meanwhile, every AI company is owned and run by Jews in the exact same cabala.

The goycattle will never not be absolutely retarded.

>>218055544
Sure, if you ask it to copy a specific artist's style exactly it will, but if you ask it to blend different styles to create derivatives, it will do that instead, and if you semantically describe your own unique style with enough precision it will be able to make images in that too.

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>>218053245
Anti-AI is all the rage at the moment due to a mass fake grassroots campaign seeded by studios and such terrified that AI is basically going to BTFO Copyright and the Hollywood machine.
>>218055232
>you give people an opportunity to make them even more soulless than before?
Because I don't want all content creation to be a fucking closed ecosystem controlled by Hollywitz? Because I've watched Hollywitz constantly fuck over setting and story over and over and over and over again where fan films constantly mog them in everything but production?
AI Fantasy "movie" slop videos already have more soul than any fanatasy film released since Return of the King. Lets be fucking real here, as soon as AI tech is good enough, one of the first genres that is going to come roaring back is 1980s sword and sorcery, a genre that Hollywitz abandoned decades ago.
Another thing I'm looking forward to are Star Trek fans able to finally make a good Star Trek series and Classic Fallout fans able to make a Fallout series that actually has the vibe of the games.

>>218055633
>AI Fantasy "movie" slop videos already have more soul than any fanatasy film released since Return of the King. Lets be fucking real here
You wouldn't know what "soul" was, if it was fucking your mom's boyfriend in front of you, Rajesh.

>>218055633
Lmao no.
It's because AI cannot make anything that isn't slop, and saying "but activists who make shit on purpose are worse" don't make it good gor anything creative

>>218053867
Anti-AI arguments make no sense honestly
>Muh data centers
Ignore 4k streaming and youtube takes up way more bandwith than AI.
>Muh Stealing
Leftists who profess "Communism" suddenly simping for even more enhanced copyright lmao
>Muh AI Companies
Ignore that pretty much all good AI content is open source and done locally on ComfyUI
>Muh human art
Digital art has always been basically slop tier.
>Muh jobs
Once again, the left simping for Capitalist exploitation of labour instead of freeing it.
>AI can't create anything good
AI generative tools have been used for example in video games for literal decades. Fucking Daggerfall is technically like a 90% generative "AI" game.
>It isn't real AI
Yes, but for normies "Seed based content generation/LLM" doesn't roll off the tongue.
The only good arguments to be angry at AI for is the state of HARDWARE shortages. But even then, I think it actually does gaming a world of good to not allow Devs to constantly fuck over optimization under constantly speeding up hardware releases.

>>218055680
>It's because AI cannot make anything that isn't slop
then there's nothing to worry about

>>218055464
>Have you seen a movie released in the past 10-20 years? Lightniggers deserve the rope.
Hey man. They are just taking orders from above. The director tells them to light the scene flat and with low contrast. So that's what they do. The lighting techs just do what they are told. Of course we would want to make scenes cooler but decision making power is with the Director.

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>>218053867
uh huh

>>218055715
the sudden shift in people freaking the fuck out of randomly generated content games is baffling. just putting the word "generative" in it made everyone lose their goddamn minds.

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>>218055677
Sorry dude, it's just absolute fucking FACT that AI is producing way better Fantasy aesthetics than we've arguably ever seen before.
>>218055680
>AI cannot make anything that isn't slop
Yeah except every major video game you've played for decades has used generative AI tools.

>>218053867
TRVKE
Antis whole arguments essentially boil down to "new bad, old good".

>progressives turning into conservatives/reactionaries the second something impacts them personally
what did they mean by this

>Roger Avary
Man imagine being Tarantino's buddy and starting to make movies together and having a hand in Pulp Fiction, and while he goes on to become the most acclaimed modern director your crowning echievement is the fucking Silent Hill movie. Must be depressing.

>>218053934
There are folks like me who don't give a shit about morality and who only care about the end product who don't care if AI takes somebody's job and also understand that AI doesn't prevent anyone creative from doing anything. In fact it allows even more people to be creative. Also I don't have such lack of foresight to imagine what AI is now is what it's going to be forever, lots of the complaints I see hinge on minor errors in AI made stuff and asserting it's impossible that it will ever get any better.

>>218055446
AI hate is growing. The hype stopped in 2024 at latest.

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>>218055823
>Yeah except every major video game you've played for decades has used generative AI tools.
Heres your AI video game.

If you are pro AI you are anti human

>>218053895
>DEMONS
>PSYCHICS
based god warrior lmao

>disgraced hack and chronic coattail rider embraces AI
Hmm

>>218053245
Because they're currently being TOLD to oppose them.

Sociologists in the future are going to study this current bizarre phenomenon of "AI Derangement Syndrome" (or "AIDS" for short), and people in the future are going to look back on the people of the present currently swept-up in it with the same mix of condescending pity & ridicule that people in the present have towards things like the "Satanic Panic" or the Red Scare.

>>218053245
makes perfect sense for this guy, he made that shitty animated beowulf movie

>>218056159
this is an explicit example but it really does highlight what exactly makes AI so shitty. its just not coherent and experiencing it is closer to a fever dream where inexplicable shit keeps happening without rhyme or reason

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>>218055823
>AI is producing way better Fantasy aesthetics than we've arguably ever seen before.
Indeed saar that pic is unlike anything seen before truly AI is disrupting the needful.

>>218053934
a combination of brown skins and coomers who use AI to undress children.

>>218053867
They have an extremely cult-like mentality.
Not only are they extremely fanatical in a lot of ways, but when asked to actually justify their comparatively extreme position their arguments are always based on emotion and other irrational things, rather than logic or reason.

Take this faggot for example: >>218053310
It's always "muh SOUL", "muh HUMANITY", "muh ART", etc. with these people. But they never actually elaborate past those weighty-sounding but ultimately vague and very subjective concepts. They never explain why a human using a tool like AI has any LESS "soul" than a human using any other tool to make something, let alone ever actually define WHAT something having "soul" actually means or HOW they supposedly quantify how much "soul" something supposedly has or does not have. Their arguments literally always just boil down to basically "muh feelings".

>>218055633
People hate AI because of how annoying pro-AI people. People like Sam Altman are con artists constantly begging for funding, and AI companies are hoovering up PC parts supply to build even more shitty data centers which destroy farmland and waste electricity. Look at Linkedin if you want to know how awful AI is, it's the most soulless corporate types imaginable pushing it, not nerds.

>My company Ford is going to produce affordable cars for everyone!
>Cool. Go fuck yourself, Henry, you're the opposite of a coachman.

>>218056456
>source
>source
>do you have a source to back that up sir
>where's the peer reviewed study
>that isn't hecking scientific
I know soul when I see it.

>>218054035
>A lot of people have their jobs tied to movie, films, and videos being made.
OK. And a lot MORE people had their jobs tied to things that ended up becoming automated prior now. Or Hell, a lot more people had their jobs tied to things that companies ultimately ended up Outsourcing to the workforce of OTHER countries!
Where was all this sudden empathy for people POTENTIALLY losing their jobs back then, when people ACTUALLY lost their jobs? Because I don't remember a lot of empathy for them. I remember a lot of what was at best dismissal, and usually at worst ridicule along the lines of "DEY TOOK OUR JERBS!!!" and other non-arguments like that coincidentally handed-down by jewish millionaires.

>>218056501
what's a soul

>>218056425
thats the shit that can be fixed.
The actual issue is that there is no reason why an AI-video game should look like a fucking video game.

>>218056502
just learn to code LOL

>>218055232
>we can curb this shit and put some legislation against it
>NOOOOO!!! THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY IS SCARY!!! WORSE, IT'S PRODUCING THINGS SOME PEOPLE ARE ENJOYING!!! SAVE ME, DADDY-GOVERNMENT!!! I'M SCARED!!!
I really wish the previous generations of your family that came before you could see what a pathetic, boot-licking little bitch their lineage would ultimately produce.

>>218056502
>"DEY TOOK OUR JERBS!!!"
it's amazing how common this insult was. over 20 years of this shit, if you can believe it. that south park episode came out in 2004.

>>218056502
>Jewish billionaires bad
>Jewish AI billionaires good

>>218053245

Im opposed to all ai and all movies

>>218055397
It's a great litmus test for knowing whether or not you're talking to an idiot that is psychologically organizing everyone they meet into in-group and out-group labels.
Anyone who is NOT as histrionic as they are about AI is, apparently, an "AI-bro", etc.

>>218053245
Why do boomers really hate younguns that much? Promoting AI in workplace, in corporation, in creative industry is the last middle finger that they gibs to world before they (eventually) die

>>218054072
Unironically yeah

>>218056581
>in group preference is le bad

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>>218055232
>muh NFT's!
I love how you idiots keep leaving out the fact that Hollywood; I.E. some of the people most dogmatically and vocally opposed to AI, simultaneously some of the biggest promoters of NFT's when they first debuted.
Do you idiots seriously not remember this shit right here being promoted by the fucking Oscars?

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>>218055492
>You're on the wrong side of history.

>>218055879
it really makes you think, huh?

>>218055492
>You're on the wrong side of history
This is literally cultist-talk.

>AI is nothing more than another means for elites to control us
Fucking what? How?
Aren't you also the one pushing for the government to "legislate" AI? I.E. Making it something no longer accessible to the lowly public and instead something only available for the wealthy and the elite to be able to utilize?

>>218056570
AI itself is impersonal. It's just a cold, clinical, quick killer. I'd rather see mass death by its hand than all the cruel mind games the other guy plays.

>>218055507
>Le STEALING!
Oh wait, so copying IS "stealing" now? I guess you're going to jail for all those movies and games you pirated then.

>>218055544
>not in a way that can be considered derivative of many sources like actual human beings perform
It absolutely CAN BE considered derivative of many sources like actual human beings perform. AI is doing the exact same shit humans do, just artificially and faster, lol.

>>218053867
>anti-AI faggots are so perpetually mean-spirited and angry
They're redditors, either literally or spiritually.

>>218054035
If AI sounds or looks good i'm gonna consume it no matter what and i don't think it'll replace every good artist out there, they'll keep producing OC kino and get support for it.

>>218055677
>muh SOOOOOUL!!!
See: >>218056456

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>>218055507
>artniggers be like: Private property is theft you fucking chud
>artniggers one AI prompt later: OMG YOU ARE STEALING MUH IDEAS I AM BEING LE GENOCIDED JUST LIKE PAKISTIANIANS

>>218053934
>why would 4chan, of all places, be PRO-technology, libertarian, and OPPOSED to new technology being legislated out of being accessible to the public???
Gee, I don't know. It's a real fucking mystery.

>>218056487
>Affordable
Nothing about genAI is affordable though, its propped up with billions of taxpayer money, circular investments and rampant inflation, not to mention the cost of electricity and hardware skyrocketing. Factor in the advertising budget and AI is probably the most expensive technology in human history, yet there's still no use case for it and no path to profitability.

>>218053245
No one needs them.

>>218053245
Because leftists know if people don’t have to go through Hollywood kikes to make movies and shows they’ll lose their propaganda machine.

>>218053934
See, here's where you're making the same mistake that nearly all anti-AI cultists seem to make: There is no actual "vehement contrarian AI defending" going on.
What's happening is is that you have adopted an irrational and history on it attitude of ludism and moral-panic in the face of a promising new technology that has an incredible amount of potential, and because you have done that you are seeing normal, rational people calling you stupid for doing that and telling you that you are overreacting. You interpret literally any pushback or criticism you get as "contrarian AI defending".

>>218056743
The main use case is some lofty dream of AGI in the future...which requires city sized data centers and hogs up a bulk of computer parts manufacturing just to finally see if AGI is even possible. And then if it is, it truly wipes everyone out.
In the meantime though, I have no sympathy for any artists. They're all slaves to jews and spent a hundred years corrupting every fabric of society. I'd be happy if AI made them irrelevant. Or at least, "good enough" to really make them hurt. If AGI comes, then it'd really kill them - along with everyone else.

>>218053245
Because Indians are revolting.

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>>218053245
AI art should disturb comfortable "human" artists.

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Because AI niggers are fucking morons who cant see how AI is going to be weilded as a corperate tool of control 10 years down the road.
If you think subcription based business models are bad now, just wait for what they have in store for you.
>but muh open source
you're a naive moron at best

>>218056456
you need a soul to understand. Don't worry about it

>>218053934
90% of everything ever made by humans is dogshit. go browse deviantart for 5 minutes and you will drown in an ocean of "soulful" human made rancid diarrhea. should digital art be banned? should we blow up photoshops servers? should i kvetch about how the electricity uses to draw sonic diaper porn is destroying the environment?

im not gonna do that because thats retarded. anti-ai stances are sophomoric pseud reddit shit. i am unbothered by the existence of retards using tools to make shitty retarded drawings. anti-ai faggots are the new hipsters. they love jerking themselves off to completely obvious things - like "computers use lots of electricity!" "mass produces art is low quality slop!" "greedy corporations are greedy!" no fucking shit

>>218053245
Because we're already sick of AI slop, specially in youtube

>>218055879
This is always what happens.
Did you not see them cheering & celebrating as illegal immigrants were rounded up and deported from Martha's Vineyard? Where were the anti-ICE screechers then?
Did you not see the "Defund the Police" politicians in places like Minnesota loading up on the personal armed security personnel that only people like them could afford, while trying to dismantle the Police Force that the public has to rely on?

Progressives literally never end up genuinely supporting the things they claim to support as any sort of genuinely good idea that everyone should live under. They support them being something that YOU have to live under and that YOU and YOUR family has to deal with the consequences of.

I love consuming AI content on Youtube and Tiktok to own the libtards

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>>218056851
>Tiktok
I only watch kots.

>>218056501
If you're making objective arguments, then your reasoning for those arguments needs to have at least some level of rational objectivity to it, yes.
"I don't like it" or "it triggers me" or "the voices in my head said so" are not valid arguments when you're talking about how technology should or should not be implemented, what should or should not be legislated, etc. Those are things that have a real effect on the lives of real people in numerous ways.

>>218056868
>car is the wrong way around

>>218056868
Based

>>218056743
Well I guess some dumbass NEET on 4chan knows better than all the tech firms, scientists and multi-billion dollar companies.
Pack it in, folks! This guy said AI will never be useful OR profitable! Who are we to question him?

>>218056819
>AI is EVIL because.....b-because 10 years from now some of the AI services might require you to PAY for them!!!...
Not a very convincing argument.
Isn't that literally already a thing anyway?

>>218056743
I use it on my gayming pc for free, it's pretty affordable

>>218056828
>circular logic
Way to prove him right, retard.

>>218056851
Actually people watch funny videos because they are funny and entertaining, but I guess if you need to politicize literally everything in your worldview then go ahead.

>grok make this ugly vidya character hot
>nooooooooooooooooo think of the artists!
lol

>>218056819
what? how?
>start using chatgpt to write emails
>forget how write emails naturally
>forced to pay $1000000 a month plus tip to chatgpt
is this really what you think will happen lol

>>218056851
>I love spending hours shrieking & fuming about AI existing and people having fun with it in order to own the chuds

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>If you're making objective arguments, then your reasoning for those arguments needs to have at least some level of rational objectivity to it, yes.
>"I don't like it" or "it triggers me" or "the voices in my head said so" are not valid arguments when you're talking about how technology should or should not be implemented, what should or should not be legislated, etc. Those are things that have a real effect on the lives of real people in numerous ways.

>>218056954
they want you to shit on traditional standards of beauty. AI is upholding the best of humanity in your case, rather than boosting the lowest common denominator and the wishes of spiteful mutants.

>>218056721
Pro-technology 4chan, famous for embracing every new technology since its creation. We all love web3. Screencapped this post in .webp and stored it on the blockchain.

>>218056831
This.
Nearly all their arguments boil down to shit that you can literally just ignore and ultimately doesn't impact you.
"AI bad because...I'm tired of le AI slop!"
OK? Then don't watch it/stop watching it.
Nobody's MAKING YOU consume content that utilizes AI, the same way nobody is making me sift through the innumerable crappy, worthless MS-Paint images uploaded to deviantArt. There's a lot of that too and it sucks. That's why I don't go spending hours perusing it, LOL.

>>218056961
>is this really what you think will happen lol
They're banking trillions of dollars on that it will. How do you imagine that they will earn their investments back?

>>218053245
Bacause it's shit and souless slop, of course a board like this filled with jeets and delusional chuddies loves it because they think they're gonna own the libs

>>218056993
You know that greentexting an objectively correct argument and reposting it with a Soijack ISN'T a "counter-argument", right?
Arguments regarding objective things that affect other people do indeed require objective reasoning be involved in order to argue things one way or another. That's just factually correct.

>>218056851
is AI pointing a gun to your head and forcing you to consume AI content?

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>>218056892
>tech firms
They're the ones spending 20 apollo projects in one single year, chief

That's neither affordable nor sustainable

>>218053245
Because right now ai kinda sucks. Jeets fucking love it but they eat, bathe in, and worship literal shit.
My only question is if something is good. If ai gets good, maybe it's worth a shot but until then it's jeetcore.

>>218057016
Oh hey, those are exactly the same thing as general AI technology! Just like your similar arguments equating it to NFT's!

>>218053245
They look like cringe

>>218057030
>They're banking trillions of dollars on that it will.
Well then they're idiots because that is a laughably irrational, if not impossible, scenario. Did you not clue in on that when you read it? Really? You really DO think that that's going to happen?
And your reasoning is literally that it WILL happen because corporations invested money on assuming that it would happen? Fucking lmao.

>>218053934
modern films/shows are either shit or pozzed
we have tools to make our own and trannies are mad at it
do I need to paint you a picture? whoops, I meant generate you a picture?

>>218057039
>Bacause it's shit and souless slop
>MUH SOOOOOUL!!!
See: >>218056456

>>218057066
Shut your trap, luddite. The same thing was said about cars, electricity, and airplanes. Religion still controls our minds.

>>218053245
Nick is a loser. God loves all.

>>218057060
>soulless slop
As opposed to what?
If it pisses off the creators of man-made soulless slop it has inherently more meaning.

>>218057103
>troon discovers the power of Jesus Christ are never fleeting
many such cases

>>218053934
>I simply do NOT understand why there are people on the Internet that have not adopted the same histrionic, irrational, borderline fanatical attitude I have adopted. Why are they not constantly angry that AI exists, just like me?

>>218057103
Did you even reply to the correct post?...

>>218055879
Why would “progressives” support AI and the intellectual theft dependency that AI development requires?

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>You know that greentexting an objectively correct argument and reposting it with a Soijack ISN'T a "counter-argument", right?
Arguments regarding objective things that affect other people do indeed require objective reasoning be involved in order to argue things one way or another. That's just factually correct.

>>218057138
there's a VERY angry troon lurking this board that is trying to gaslight anons into believing "luddite" means the opposite of its actual meaning by randomly throwing around that word.

>>218056743
>the cost of electricity and hardware skyrocketing
The price of hardware, specifically RAM, skyrocketed because companies in their infinite wisdom saw fit to almost completely outsource production of such parts to places outside of our own country. As soon as Demand was suddenly exceeding Supply, our countries had no way to meet the increased Demand for that very reason.

"AI" is literally being used as a scapegoat for a problem that exists solely due to things that used to get you labeled a "racist" to for complaining about.

>>218056653
Plagiarism is stealing yes.

>>218057169
>why would progressives support new technology with tons of potential rather than being mindlessly anti-technology
Gee, I don't know, lol.

>>218053245
>Why are terminally online leftards so opposed to ai movies?
ftfy. Normies couldn't care less beyond going "woah cool video/pic"

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>>218053934
>contrarian
Sorry your twitter bubble doesn't represent society, normies do not give a fuck if AI is used as long as the end result is good.

>>218057169
>>>intellectual theft
someone please think of the poor multibillionaire IPs

>>218056838
>muh Martha’a vineyard

Right wingers are so fucking stupid, I swear to God.

>>218057185
Machines can't "plagarize".

>>218056851
i unironically love listening to and finding new ai music on youtube. It's great, there's a ton of it and you can't that type of music anywhere else. The rate of new stuff being made is also exponential.

>>218056456
Soulles mooks will mever understand. The soul having mans burden.

>>218057209
>>218057169
uh oh angry lefty

At least for now they're advertising that AI is in them so they can be avoided. Hopefully laws get passed that force every company to disclose use of AI.

Lol, LMAO

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>>218057185
Dont worry not even AI wants anything to do with what you call art.

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Imagine dedicating every waking moment to hating something for years, trying every trick under the sun, saying its bad for the planet, saying it's stealing, saying only jeets like it, and yet in the end you have not slowed down the adoption or progress of said thing at all and every day you are forced to accept more and more that you simply lost.

I would probably kill myself.

>>218057169
>intellectual theft
Lmao, "intellectual theft" is not a very "progressive" concept, comrade. In fact prior to the recent AI kerfuffle if the "progressive stance" on the concept intellectual property was that it needed to be abolished since it "stifled creativity and only existed to protect multi-billion dollar companies" or some shit like that.
I never ONCE heard of a self-professed "Progressive" demanding Intellectual Property & Copyright Laws be strengthened as opposed to weakend. Not before you decided AI was evil two or three years ago.

>>218053245
AI? Fuck. I'm still opposed to CG. AI just just CG but even sloppier. I already mostly stick to pre-21st century media and that isn't about to change with corporations salivating at the mouths at the potential to get even lazier.

>>218057178
If there was more supply they'd buy that too. The current supply is already being bought with money these companies don't have, after all. The play is to make personal computing prohibitively expensive so that, once existing hardware expires, the only option will be terminals that can only connect to monitored VMs running on cloud servers. Good luck with your heckin open source local models then lmao. Even if AI never turns profitable, it will have been worth it as a trojan horse to push this agenda through.

>>218053867
They're infantile angry autists, they know they're useless and unskilled, they feel threatened by superior AI taking over.

>>218057169
what's your stance on piracy?
if you're fine with it then you're a massive hypocrite.

>>218057234
>Yes, MORE laws! MORE regulation! MORE red-tape! Protect my feefees, Daddy Government!
People like you simply do not "belong" on 4chan.

>>218057209
How is that not a valid argument? Explain why, rather than just doing a cowardly drive-by ad-hom, faggot.

>>218057260
>heh even if you win you actually lose heh
Just go cry in a corner somwhere, you'll feel better.

>>218057259
>I'm still opposed to CG.
Uh huh. And how did that go?
Did Movie-Makers stop using it? Did you get it banned?
Or is it now more ubiquitous than ever?

Remember when leftists were considered the pro-technology and pro-science side?
Good times.

>>218053934
people who goon to ai porn all day

>>218057260
>If there was more supply they'd buy that too.
OK, so...we have now established that you don't even understand what "Supply & Demand" is or how it works. That's good to know, as it helps me know exactly how seriously I should take your thoughts and opinions on these matters.

>>218055889
He didn't really have anything to do with Pulp Fiction. Tarantula gave him a credit to help his old friend get his foot in the door and he squandered it making slop until he killed a guy.

>>218053245
AI makes trannies seethe like in OP pic related so I love it. Cope and seethe trannies.

>>218057289
>And how did that go?

It went as follows: New = bad, old = good. But unironically. And it will become more true every day until the end of civilization.

>>218057169
lefties on nfts
>LOL RIGHT CLICK SAVE IM STEALING YOUR JPG
lefties on ai
>YOU CANT JUST STEAL MY JPG NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>218057260
>The play is to make personal computing prohibitively expensive so that, once existing hardware expires, the only option will be terminals that can only connect to monitored VMs running on cloud servers.
Wow... you seriously came up with a conspiracy-theory this retarded and did it on the spot, didn't you?

>>218057303
>just ignore that they already bought the entire supply

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>>218057316
I didn't come up with it, which you would know that if you actually used this site.

I dont understand why people think AI is going to improve the state of either video games or films. These are corperations, they're just going to double, tripple, quadruple down on the shit that has been a detriment to the industry for the last 2 decades.

And this shit is going to be kept lock and key behind a paywall most people wont afford, all this is just open beta teaser trailer season, you're not going to be able to sit at home and make endless itterations of movies and games at your leisure. If you believe this is going to bring in a new era of endless cultural and media output because AI is supposedly leveling the playingfield, you havent been paying attention.

>>218057169
Ah, yes, Progressives: Known for their hatred of "intellectual property theft", known for their support of further strengthening draconian Copyright Laws and their opposition to things like Internet Piracy.

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>>218053245
I like AI, but a full movie? Seems a bit much. Though there'll probably be a lot more thought put into an AI generated film than your average shitty modern film will... and it'll definitely be way more visually appealing than the standard medium green screen shot that makes up 90% of scenes in everything nowadays.

>>218057260
>>218057319
>You see, any company basically has INFINITE buying-power
No they don't. Basic shit like this that you get wrong is why people call you retarded.

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>>218057340
>these are corporations
That's the thing, AI will enable people or groups who don't have the power of corps to do bigger scale projects for cheaper and faster

>>218057299
>ITS THE GOONERS!
>WHAT ARE YOU A GOONER?
>YOU SUPPORT AI YOU GOONING GOONER?
>JUST CANT STOP GOONING TO AI CAN YOU GOONER?
>GOONER GOONER GOONER!
Anybody who makes this argument jerks it to underage furry shit

daily reminder that landline telephones were once treated exactly like ai is now; all the same doom and gloom. and now telephones are an integral part of society to the point where if you got rid of it entire economies would collapse overnight.

ai has problems, yes, but anti-ai people are genuinely retarded

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>>218057319
>Well you see they started buying [X] amount because they needed and were able to do so. Therefore they could and would buy an INFINITE amount of them, even after they didn't need them...

I see we have some real fucking Galaxy-Brains ITT.

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>>218057354
>AI will enable people or groups who don't have the power of corps to do bigger scale projects for cheaper and faster

>>218057359
it's always projection in these cases

>>218057360

I dont know how much more retarded the teaming masses could be after the mass implementation of smart phones

>>218057374
It already has/is.
Anybody can use AI to write code now.
If you dont understand what a huge step this is and what its implications are then you're literally too dumb to have this conversation with.

>>218055507
I thought you commies didn't believe in private property. What all of a sudden you do? Hmmm...

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>>218057271
You you like nutritional labels on your food, dipshit? Laws and regulations are foundational for any society. Grab your skateboard and a can of spray paint you horror al teenage retard, adults are talking.

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A lot of anti-AI types seem to think AI movies would be shit cause someone is gonna just write

>hey AI make a movie about a knight in space lol

When in reality you're going to have people doing highly detailed prompts per scene, inch by inch

>>218057178
They're not even buying real supply, they're buying a hypothetical supply, it's basically a future contract. If there was potentially more supply they'd buy that too, because the money is fake as well. AI is literally a con on the level of most shitcoins and NFTs, but worse since the government is promoting the con as well. They're buying fake ram with fake money to build fake data centers. It has nothing to do with the conventional laws of supply and demand.

No AI is illegal on stolen land.

>>218057351
>>218057373
>IGNORE THE PRICE HIKES YOU FUCKING CHUD
LLMs are interesting. They can make me doubt whether I'm replying to a human, but not whether I'm replying to a shill.

>>218057103

And none of those things improved people's lives

>>218057398
im not talking about smart phones, im talking about landlines. even back then people were still doing the same song and dance.

>>218057360
We didn't restructure our entire economy around pipe dreams from ketamine-fueled telephone gurus promising us that phone calls would be the backbone of the next century, though.
We saw the utility of phones, built the infrastructure, and used them to immediately get practical returns. It didn't become the biggest speculation bubble in the history of humanity all with nothing to show for it.

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>>218057374
>Literally has no form of rebuttal or counter, just a silly gif reaction
Gee I wonder why the anti side has been losing so horribly

>>218057433
he said, while using the same things daily that supposedly dont improve his life

>>218055314
>the largest governments and corporations in the world are investing countless billions; ai isn't going anywhere, ai will significantly impact hollywood. nfts arent even remotely similar.
Sportsball companies poured millions to try and pump up esports- now the scene is withering away for most of the games they invested in. Spending a gorillion dollars means nothing, AI can wither and die just like any other business and then everyone will move on to pumping and dumping the next big thing.

>>218057435
>nothing to show for it.
>>218057407

>>218057435
the speculative bubble is completely separate from the technology. the internet had a bubble too.

>>218056430
Oh now suddenly Elden Ring is good? Gee you trannies need to make up your mind.

>>218057438
>>218057407
problem is that you all seem to believe that AI will be freely available to you in the future.

The only people I know that post AI content online are boomers and Indians. I don't understand why people think this is a left/right issue.

>>218057039
>They think they're gonna own the libs
We already are, tranny. Keep seething, it fuels us.

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>>218057476
> you all seem to believe that AI will be freely available to you in the future.
No one believes this, you made this up because you have nothing to fall back on

>>218055715
>Ignore 4k streaming and youtube takes up way more bandwith than AI.
RAM prices you cretin, SSD prices as well. You don't mind paying 2-3 times what it's worth because some talentless hack wants to make something but doesn't want the inconvenience of having to work for it. They're scum, always have been always willing be.

>>218053934
>vehement contrarian AI defending
It's only vehement compared to the vehement opposing of AI you see in certain online bubbles. Normies don't really care about it as much, they will say the occasional "wow, that's kinda freaky dontcha think?" but then go back to watching the funny chicken baby dance on tiktok or whatever it is they scroll. At the end of the day, it's just a tool. Banning it outright is impossible and also illegal.

>>218057360
Landlines weren't developed for the sole purpose of government serveillance. Sure there was wiretapping but that came later, it wasn't the only purpose. AI is being funded by the governent for the sole purpose of spying and military target identification. The consumer benefits are just dressing. Its like the Superbowl Amazon Ring ad, you'd have to be retarded to think their AI ID system was only for dogs. Everyone called them out on it immediately.

>>218057422
It's because all they have are disingenuous tactics. They know it's inevitable and they know they don't have any arguments against it aside from seething, so they have to make shit up to be angry about in their minds.

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>>218057219
>The rate of new stuff being made is also exponential.
All according to keikaku.

>>218057521
the internet is a military invention. disconnect your internet right now if you truly believe what you say.

>>218057476
No the problem is you keep ignoring that it's "free" in the present.
You right now, could realize your dream of starting your own company, programming your own videogame, making your own short films, you could start a company specialising in data analysis or web development or just basic bitch data repository or any of the literally infinite things you can do if you can use e.g. python but instead of actually having to know e.g. python you can just say "chatgpt write this shit for me".
But instead of doing any of those really cool and beneficial and interesting things you're complaining that it might be too expensive at some unspecified point in the future.
That's pretty crazy if you think about it.

>>218057521
This is what's known as a non-sequitor and comes off as schizophrenic.

>>218057521
nuclear tech was developped for military purposes are you also saying therefore shouldnt use it for power plants

I'll gladly slurp slop as long as it serves muh incel culture war

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>>218057602
t.

>>218053245
If AI gets to a point where it can generate a feature-length movie with any plot, actors, scenes, effects, music, etc. you can prompt and do so flawlessly... why would anyone waste time seeing what someone else made instead of making their own?

>>218057567
>But instead of doing any of those really cool and beneficial and interesting things you're complaining that it might be too expensive at some unspecified point in the future.
I give it 5 years and most people will be priced out of competing and will have to rely on outdated open source models and training LMMs on 10 year old hardware

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>>218057602
Yes, leftists regularly support, promote & consume utter shit for no other reason than they're told it will "own the chuds".
"Incels" also majority self-identify as leftist as well, so I'm glad you clued-in on that.

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>>218056819
>AI is going to be weilded as a corperate tool of control 10 years down the road.

You have Covid pass installed on your smartphone.

>>218057645
Cool be sure to not take adavantage of any of these opportunities for 5 years and instead complain about how soon they'll be less good.

>>218057374
...Yes. It literally will. Where is the lie?

>>218057652
you guys went to the theatres en masse and watched a 2 hour documentary about some rich cunt to "own the libs"

>>218057659
I can tell you were peddling NFT's 4 years ago.

>>218057521
>You see, this promising new technology with incredible potential is evil because it's SECRETLY only being developed to spy on you!
This is why the Mentally Ill shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>218057039
>they think they're gonna own the libs
Learn2Coal.

>>218057670
Actually I havent been to a cinema in like 4 years.
And your assumption that anybody on /tv/ went to out of their way to watch a movie about some bimbo is very telling.

>>218057435
>We didn't restructure our entire economy
OK? And we haven't done that for AI either, retard.

>>218053245
Luddites, aka Chuddites.

>>218057699
I can tell you're never going to achieve anything and are desperately trying to prevent the other crabs from leaving you all alone in your bucket.

>>218057481
The only people I see crying about AI online are leftists and trannies.

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>>218057169
>property isn't real you dumb chud
>noooo stop stealing my intellectual property, help me government

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Expalin why you wouldn't watch an AI generated movie.

>>218057652
No,I was being completely unironic. I'd do anything to own the libs. Hell,I'd take a hammer to own sexual organ if it pleased my orange daddy.

>>218057450
>muh nfts and esports
absolutely irrelevant

>>218057670
Actually I didn't and I don't think anybody did.
Meanwhile you faggots are on the Internet spending hours defending whatever the new Disney/Amazon/Whatever wokeslop of the month is, and doing it FOR FREE.

Shut your faggot mouth, prog-zombie.

>>218053245
Current Hollywood exists to launder money and give jobs to friends and family. AI represents an existential threat to their grift.
Hopefully, AI takes over bankers' and politicians' jobs next.

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>>218057185
>Plagiarism is stealing yes.
Purely socioeconomic factors are what leads people to plagiarizing, chud.

>>218057768
i'm still not sure who bankers are supposed to be

>>218057700
It's not secret at all. I'm sure Palantir thanks you for your service or whatever. You are receiving compensation for this, right?

>>218057415
This image would be infinitely better if the fish thing on the knight's head; i.e. a critical fucking part of the image; wasn't the EXACT SAME color & flat texture as the entire background.

>>218057736
The only people I see praising AI online are pajeets and pedophiles

>>218057798
no mossad does

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>>218057209
>leftists are forced to face their own policies for a sigle afternoon
>immediately turn into orange rapist criminal Hitler
Love how you have absolutely no retort to this.
You were more than happy to cheer on unlimited migration to fuck over blue collars, but the second AI comes for your bullshit, you have a shrieking meltie all over the place.

>>218057742
why would I waste time watching somebody else's slop when I can just make mine?

>>218057431
>Literally just NOT understanding the argument
Again, you literally don't understand Supply & Demand. I'm talking to a fucking teenager.

>>218057811
Nu uh, I'm defending it and I'm not one of those. Oh wait, I actually am currently using AI to de-age and nudify my sister and I happen to be from India. Never mind.

My sister is very hot btw.

what is a soul and why do progressive atheists keep saying it

>>218057415
We have absolutely malding EUrogroid in here.

>>218057811
Well that's clearly wrong. I see all sorts of people marveling at cool AI demos or laughing at funny AI-generated videos of cats using shotguns, mostly Normies. So you're entirely wrong.

...Did you think you could just do the "I'll take your argument AND FLIP IT!"-thing to make an epic GOTCHA'!-argument? You forgot the part where the flipped argument actually has to be true in order for that kind of argument to work.

>>218057422
Yep you have to detail everything. Even when the AI comes up with something you like you have to write it down, and in the current AI specifically tell them you liked that thing.

>>218057415
Why would mandatory labels on anything utilizing AI be necessary for anything OTHER than maintaining your feefees?
Your feefees don't get to define the law, bootlicker.

Everytime I watch a bitchute or rumble video, sometimes ads slip through and they are always made with AI. Even my local credit union uses AI people and animals on their website. Its already used a lot and most people don't really care.

AI movies sound retarded but movies already kinda suck, so it really can't get any worse.