Are there any other examples of a movie receiving universal praise at its release only for internet reviewers to rewrite history and say it was critically maligned and a financial failure?
>>218203950The Last Jedi, I thik.Not a Star Wars fan, but press was really positive on this when it released. Looking in from the outside, it really feels like prequels all over again.
Form your own opinion
>>218203979Ok, I think you’re retarded
>star wars prequels>universal praise3/10 bait.
The Dark Knight Rises?
I don’t understand the question so I can’t give you an answer.
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>>218204540>Has there been another example of films receiving universal praise before online critics rewrite history to make it look like they were universally hated>picrelIf your issue was that the premise was based on a falsehood, that would be one thing. But you say that was your issue, so you are retarded.
>>218203950people did not "universally praise" the prequels when they came out
>>218204713Statistically speaking, they were
>>218204666Did you read a fuckin tyrannosaurus before making that post you dicksnap?Oh look at me I’m book learnt and have my grade 12. Fuck off!
>>218204748You are an illiterate niggerkike who has never bothered to improve themself and learn more about the world.
>>218204837Knock knock
>>218204739Statistically speaking... no
>>218204859>>218204553
>>218203950>Are there any other examples of a movie receiving universal praise at its release only for internet reviewers to rewrite history and say it was critically maligned and a financial failure?
>>218203950The prequels were bad back then and they're bad now
>>218204894They're not though.TPM's plot is sound. AOTC's only problem was the beginning part with Padme's assassination and the believability of the Anakin-Padme romance. And ROTS is a fucking masterpiece.
>>218204975> And ROTS is a fucking masterpiece.
>>218203950>universal praise>internet reviewers rewrite history
youtubers don't change opinions, they regurgitate themjust because no one held you down and screamed at your child self about how bad the movies are, doesn't mean everyone liked them.
>>218203950Loved them as a kid, and remembered them fondly, along with the OT. Went back and rewatched the prequels and realized just how gay and campy they were. Then I went and rewatched the OT and thought the exact same thing.
>>218203950Slumdog Millionaire.Back in 2008 it was EVERYWHERE. I thought it was utter garbage as a movie. Nowadays it has been memory holed to oblivion
>>218204975>ROTS is a fucking masterpiece
Does anyone else feel like all these prequel guys are brown? I feel like the only people who could possibly like this trash have to be ESL at the very least. It's similar to Indians being obsessed with Snyder.
>>218205044>YouTubers don't change opinionsExcept they do. The reason why YouTubers are sometimes "influencers" is because they influence the decision making of those watch them. That's why people went to see the "Iron Lung" movie (people went to go see it because Markiplier was it). It's why there was an entire era of the internet where everyone was into breadtube. It's why everyone was conservative and anti-left before the breadtube wave. YouTubers do change opinions. You are just denying reality.
>>218205032You sincerely underestimate how much in intensity the Prequel hate was
>>218203950I’m guessing you were 7 or 8 when the prequels came out. I remember people mostly mocking them until the last 10 years or so which is when people who were kids when the films came out started speaking up.
>>218205059>went back and rewatched the prequels and realized just how gay and campy they were. Then I went and rewatched the OT and thought the exact same thing.
>>218205266>OT is gay and campyHahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...kill yourself.
>>218205250all the revisionism that the prequels are good really kicked in when disney was getting ready to buy star wars, they put a huge amount of damage control out to protect their new IP. it's hilarious that prequel schizos call anyone disney shills for not liking them.
>>218205344Okay okay, New Hope is gay and campy.
>>218205344So true. Sy Snootles and Wicket are fucking COOL.
>>218203950shit bait kill yourself subhuman
>>218205356The "revisionism" started long after Disney bought the franchise with people analyzing the themes and stories of the era.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-TSqjRgh2ZY&pp=ygURV2hlbiBsaWJlcnR5IGRpZXM%3Dhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KkAfNJsko_8&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3Dhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ucqB6TyFA0Yhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P9UDN_-Dqe8https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWqQT8MIysI&pp=ygUXVGhlIHBoYW50b20gbWVuYWNlIHJvY2s%3Dhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FrTY-ObfFhQ&pp=ugUEEgJlbg%3D%3Dhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnjzVX8EKA&pp=ygULcmljayB3b3JsZXk%3DOpen these in YouTube and look at the upload dates to these videos. If you do, you will notice the actual pattern.
>>218205344The original trilogy is cool if you watch it with your kids, fun family movies, nothing more. The prequels are bad. Never bothered watching the new ones because I knew they'd be much much worse than the prequels.
>>218205561How are they bad?
>>218205561Both my sons loved the prequels.
Only the original 1977 film was a good movie. The rest from Empire onwards were soulless cash grabs.
>>218205344>Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...kill yourself.
>>218205589Yeah your sons, I bet if I showed my six year old the prequels he would like them more than the original. They have far more action, creatures and other things that kids will like.
>>218205573So many things that are bad about the prequels but one of the most irritating one for me is how ObiWan and Anakin laugh at almost every dangerous situation they are in. They hardly take anything seriously.
>>218205589>my sons
>>218205738Is your argument that "just because kids likes them, that doesn't mean they are good"?
>>218205776This site hasn't been a secret club for spergs and shut-ins for well over a decade now. Some of us moved on with our lives.
>>218205783No, I was answering in regards to what he said.
>>218205773Because the dangerous situations they find themselves in are "just another day at the office" as far they are concerned. Courage and remaining calm in a situation is basically the Jedi way during the time of the Prequels.
>>218205800Unless you are an unironic NEET who has successfully for welfare, you basically cannot afford to be a shut-in.
>>218205815Got it
>>218205819Another day at the office? They could get blasted by a thousand laser guns. When heroes are frequently laughing at danger and cracking jokes, the villains start looking like child's play. There are better ways to show that your heroes remaining calm.
>>218203950>Prequels>Recieving universal praise>Tons of evidence of people shitting on them right after release>reviews at the time also shat on themI fucking hate dumbass zoomers so fucking much.
>>218204975The Phantom Menace>The trade federation blockading a small planet of no worth to protest the taxation of their trade routes makes no sense. Especially when they have many other alternative solutions at their disposal.>There is no visual evidence that the blockade negatively impacts naboo. >It is never explained why Sidious has so much sway over the TF apart from vague notions of fear.>Qui-gon and company somehow travel through the Planet's core via a submarine.>The TF land on the other side of the planet despite having the capability of landing their troops outside the Captiol city.>Gunray has Amidala sent for processing instead of keeping her secure within the palace. Gunray doesn't even have her escorted by droidekas.>The TF somehow expect a treaty signed under duress to be legally binding.>R2D2 being the queen's astromech is a huge contrivance.>The TF attempt to destroy the ship holding the one person they require to sign their treaty. No fighters are scrambled to Intercept. >Jar Jar is brought along to Mos Espa despite being a huge liability that makes our group conspicuous.>Qui-gon's plan to obtain a Nubian Hyperdrive is completely convoluted and takes up way too much time that he admittedly doesn't have.>Qui-gon has numerous other options to get off Tatoonie or obtain the Nubian hyperdrive and uses none of them.>C-3PO is built by Anakin. Another major contrivance in order to reintroduce a character from the OT.>Midichlorians create a number of issues logistically while also removing the mysticism of the Force. >There is no visual indication Naboo is suffering under the TF occupation.>No one is aware of the Queen's location but the Queen's advisor is somehow able to send a message to her ship even though the TF is still jamming transmissions.>Maul is somehow able to locate the Queen to Tatoonie without leads.>The Jedi Council believes a 9 year old is too old to be trained.
>>218205819If it was a Marvel movie you'd be crying about "too many quips"
>>218206016cont.>The TF has enough pull in the senate to prevent aid to Naboo but not enough to prevent tax increases.>The queen and company are able to break through the blockade to land back on Naboo with no issue. They are able to land without the TF tracking them down.>Sidious/Palpatine still pushes to have the TF capture the queen to sign the treaty despite having changed his plans and no longer requiring the TF any longer now that he is chancellor.>Qui-gon brings a 9 year old to a warzone instead of leaving him with the Jedi Council or Gungans in the Swamp.>Boss Nass makes Jar Jar a general despite knowing his propensity to cause trouble because he "made peace with the Naboo" the complete opposite of what a combat general is needed for. >The queen's guard doesn't immediately start shooting at Maul when he shows up unarmed in the hanger.>Anakin somehow destroys the TF control ship with no combat/flight experience and by complete luck.>Maul allows Obi-wan to jump over him without even attempting to swipe at him. This is after letting Obi-wan dangle off the ledge without using the force to push him into the chasm.>The Jedi Council allow Obi-wan to train Anakin despite having nothing but dangerous premonitions regarding the subject.
>>218206044Attack of the Clones>Padme automatically assumes Count Dooku is behind her assassination attempts without any evidence>On behalf of Nute Gunray Dooku hires Jango Fett who hires Zam Wessel to kill Padme adding an unnecessary number of conspirators who could betray one another at any sign of trouble. (Keep in mind Zam almost outs Jango)>Nute Gunray wants to assassinate Padme despite her being the only vocal opposition to the creation of a Republic Army in the Senate. An Army which would actively combat the seperatist's Droid army and make seceeding difficult.>Obi-wan and Anakin recklessly use Padme as bait in an assassination attempt with their only surveillance being an astromech.>Obi-wan recklessly jumps out of Padme's apartment to capture Zam's assassination droid. A move that could have resulted in his death in a myriad of ways.>The droid Zam uses does not immediately self destruct upon failure. Instead it returns to Zam carrying Obi-wan with it.>Zam shoots her droid rather than shooting Obi-wan who has no means of defending himself while hanging on it.>Zam does not attempt to use her shapeshifting abilities to escape capture>Neither Anakin or Obi-wan guard the exit of the bar they chase Zam into.>Zam attempts to kill Obi-wan rather than escape out the unguarded exit.>When Zam is captured she attempts to reveal her contractor but is killed by a poison dart. Rather than state Jango's name she just blurts out an insult.>Jango uses a physical weapon to kill Zam rather than an untraceable laser bolt. He doesn't even attempt using an explosive to try and kill the Jedi near her.>Padme drops her campaign to stop the army creation bill and go into hiding despite having survived two assassination attempts already. She leaves Jar Jar Binks in her stay even though he could also be assassinated or be compromised.>The Jedi think the best place to hide Padme is on her home planet at a publicly known Royal Estate
>>218206057Cont.>Obi-wan conveniently knows some random diner owner who knows the exact origin of the poison dart Jango used.>Padme has issues with starting a romantic relationship with Anakin when there is no reason to feel this way. Any scandal would damage Anakin's reputation, not Padme.>Anakin is infatuated with Padme despite having no real reason to love her. They share no interests and have only the most minor of history together. Padme may be attractive but her interests do not allign with Anakin in any way.>Padme shows very little interest in Anakin and shows no real chemistry with the Jedi actively shunning his political beliefs and being turned off by his brash and immature behavior.>Anakin uses the dumbest fucking pick up line in all of history and it successfully gets him to 1st base with Padme.>The Kaminoians are still producing a Clone Army despite having no contact with their buyer in over a decade.>It is revealed that a Jedi Master Sifo-Dias is responsible for commissioning the Clone army on behalf of the republic. A character the Jedi Council confirm existed and is not an alias. Where he acquired the funds to purchase this army is never explained.>When questioned by Obi-wan Jango reveals he was hired by someone named Tyrannus. Obi-wan doesn't question the Kaminoians about this and for some reason the Kaminoians don't seem to know who this person is either.>The Kaminoians show no concern for the man their clones are based on trying to kill a Jedi, the order they believe responsible for commissioning the Clones in the first place.>The Lars family own C-3P0 creating a paradox in the fact that neither Beru or Owen recognize him in ANH despite having owned him for years and most likely being the only protocol droid they ever ownded>Padme is completely fine with Anakin murdering a bunch of women and children going so far as to say that it was a natural emotional response. >Padme and Anakin just steal C-3P0 from the Lars family.
>>218206083cont.>The Senate doesn't question how an army was just randomly commissioned for them without their oversight and is revealed to them at the very moment they're deciding to vote on the creation of an Army.>Despite taking the place of the one person most vocal against the creation of an Army Jar Jar thinks the best course of action is to give supreme power to Palpatine so that he can create said army.>The Jedi have no qualms with commanding literal slaves as soldiers>The Jedi aren't suspicious of the fact that the clone army they are leading are cloned from a bounty hunter who attempted to kill Amidala and is alligned with the Seperatists.>The jedi still lead clone troopers despite knowing the planet they were manufactured on was removed from their archives around the time Sifo-Dias commissioned them then mysteriously died. This timeframe also lines up with when Dooku left the Jedi order.>The gunship chasing Dooku can't shoot him down because of a lack of rockets despite having multiple laser turrets. Clones aboard don't even attempt shooting him with their blasters>Yoda somehow knows exactly where Dooku's ship is and arrives just in time to save Obi-Wan and Anakin. Somehow beating Padme and the Clone troopers there who are closer in proximity to Dooku's base.>The clone wars somehow happen despite the Seperatist movement losing it's main droid manufacturer only hours after officially declaring independence.Not even gonna bother with Revenge of the Sith.
>>218205159zoomer, people talked about how retarded jar jar was back in the ‘90s. as for “breadtube” you mean like tim pool being a russian asset?
>>218204553>target people who are out for a good time>they just experienced a continuation of something they've known they liked for 20 years>barely get 50% approvallol, they got the same rating as a toothy blowjob
>>218206157BadMouseProductions, Vaush, MaoistRebelNews/Jason Unruhe, Sev_K, ContraPoints, PhilosophyTube, Jack Saint, Adam Something, etc etc. Do you not use YouTube or even watch it?
>>218206044I was just telling another anon that one of the things I hate most about the prequels is how nobody takes danger/threats/villains seriously. Here we have JarJar being made General in an upcoming battle to decide the fate of their world....Lucas should have called it quits right after he wasted film on such a scene.
>>2182039501990 zoomers all need to be forced to attend reeducation camps. You all have the worst taste imaginable.
>>218206180The stats shows they got above that
>>218206057This pic makes me Tourette.
>>218203950Not a movie but this definitely happened with Grand Theft Auto 4.
>>218206260Blame the person who decided to use that as the image
>>218206105>Not even gonna bother with Revenge of the SithWhy? You made the effort to nitpick the first two, why not the third?
>>218206521Those aren't nitpicksA nitpick would be asking why the Jedi held their breath when the TF pumped gas into the room when they had those respirators they use when swimming to the gungan city.
>>218206636Most of what you brought up could be explained.>Why does Palpatine have so much sway over the Trade Federation?He's a Sith Lord. Besides, it isn't revelant to the story being told: The Late Republic encountering a legal crisis that forced Chancellor Valorum to secretly dispatch two Jedi Knights to resolve the crisis. A crisis that was later used by Palpatine to get himself into the position of Supreme Chancellor and then do the secretive backroom stuff he did during the ten years between TPM and AOTC.
A defense of the prequels, audio only, from a pay walled site. files catbox moe /my9jbr m4a
>>218206808This is gonna lead to a scam link, isn't it?
>>218203950Reminder Attack of the Clones has the lowest box office of the main saga.
>>218203950So trve xister!
>>218206884>not knowing what catbox isit's probably gonna be dolphin porn or some shit like thatbut the site itself is legit
>>218203950Star Wars is, and has always been, trash
>>218206932And? If we are judging the quality of the films based on total revenue, then The Force Awakens would be the best of the Star Wars franchise simply going by that metric alone.
>>218206997I know what catbox is. It's just the link itself that I don't know.
>>218207001Water is, and has always been, wet
>>218206752>He's a Sith LordYeah a thing that's been thought to be dead and gone for a thousand years. That's like a fucking CEO of Pfizer taking advice from someone claiming to be a Mesopotamian.
>>218203950Prequels were moderately well received. See Ebert's reviews. Prequel hate is this weird early Millennial/Gen X phenomenon that has the bearing of a faux rite of passage:>I'm an adult now because I do not like Star Wars for the current generation of kids!
>>218203950>universal praise at its releaseAnon, they were relatively hated. The first got mixed reviews, Episode II was trashed and Episode III got lukewarm reviews. The Polis at the time was big on saying they sucked.Zoomers like them because it's the story of a privileged pretty girlboss falling for a broody idealist asshole and they were just the right age for the Clone Wars cartoon which fed into their unique me vs the NPC complex.
>>218207169Everyone on 4chan (and outside of 4chan) has a "unique me vs the NPC" complex, anon.
>>218207153Sex is really the source of it all. You go to grown up movies because you're looking to be put in a mood to have sex after the movie. Same thing with food, it's like what is a better meal to eat on a date, a light salad with some grilled chicken after a charcuterie board and some alcoholic libations or a Pastrami Burger, with a side of onion rings, fried Jalapeno poppers and a giant milkshake?What's a better movie to get your dick sucked to, Star Wars Episode III or Blue Velvet.
>>218207093Then the answer would be some backroom deal between Sidious and the TF.
>>218207189Yeah, but Boomers/Xers/Millennials had hangout sitcoms and detective/doctor shows where the characters were fun, endearing and likable. Anakin is a fucking annoying asshole through all those movies, Padme is one of Natalie Portman's worst romantic roles. Stiff, idiotic, mutually emotionally abusive. She's basically supposed to be a 25 year old Lady Empress, yet she's basically committing statutory rape and politically shoehorning her 17 year old boyfriend into a politicized nepotism role. It's a miracle her career survived these movies.
>>218207093force users can literally control minds and the sith aren't averse to using it maliciously
>>218207093Read Darth Plagueis.
>>218203950You know the Internet existed back then right? You can go see the original threads on theforce.net. Praise wasn't universal
>>218207412>the grown up nerds of the early web didn't like this kids movieReminiscent of Comic Book Guy
>>218207412>what about le niche?Case in point.
>>218207431yes lol only "just consoom" braindead normies liked it
>>218207431>Comic Book GuyWho?
>>218207431>kids moviethe OT was for everyone. The prequels were exclusively for children. This is why they grossed half of what the OT did, adjusted for inflation. Just because no one tried to argue a child out of liking something for children, doesn't mean everyone liked them.
>>218207509>dumb normies and virtuosos like the Prequels >antisocial midwits don'tYup, so true.>prequels were exclusively for childrenNo.
>>218206884It's phone-recorded audio of a video playing on another phone. Some good points are made, though the prequels are absolutely not great they say.
>>218203950>well jay, I loved it...it was everything I hoped it would be.
>>218207604Can you send the actual link then?
>>218203969The Last Jedi was a weird one because people that critiqued the Prequels suddenly forgot how to review a movie to praise it
All I get from the prequels is that the Republic and the Jedi deserved to be fucking crushed. Fast forward to Empire and Jedi, Yoda and Obi Wan are still telling Luke all this bullshit about forsaking attachment and stuff, all the same shit that screwed Anakin. They learned nothing. At the end of it all, Anakin restores balance precisely because he finally becomes his own man and rejects the Jedi once and for all by caring and loving his son. Born a slave, then a Jedi padawan and knight, then a sith lord under Sidious. He finally becomes his own man at the end of his life. Having said all that, I don't think Lucas intended much of this. It's mostly accidental and my point of view.
>>218206202no one knows who any of those people are.
>>218207692It's paywalled.
>>218207604*not great like they say
>>218207840The catbox one
>>218203969yeah, press was so positive that rotten tomatoes instituted measures on the user score that prevented people from leaving reviews without buying a ticket through fandango and rounded every score under 7/10 to 7/10.
Suicide squad 2016:Huge blockbuster success, $750mil box office, has It Aint Me, Leto jokerkino"The" Suicide Squad 2021:Total bomb, $150mil box office, has China shill John Cena and BLACKED star Idris Elba, no jokerkino, no it aint mehaters will tell you the new one is better
>>2182078754chan filters it.
>>218207811>Quetin when it comes to the PT: Nitpick everything to death when some things were not important to the points that George was trying to get across in the PT>Quetin when it comes to TLJ: Ignores the Holdo Manuever despite it creating plot holes for the franchise, excuse Holdo being an asshole, ignores that the Star Wars galaxy is big and that nobody would care that some hermit humiliated some emo teen, dismisses everything wrong with TLJ as "fandom nitpicks"
>>218207926Well this is what I got with the fake link you sent me. Like, did I fuck up? If so, what's the fuckup?
>>218207936who?
>>218207930It's CGI from 1999, all while the film was still using Panavision film cameras. The CGI got better in later films.
>>218207914the second one was better. the first one's box office had nothing to do with the quality of the movie. The second one's box office had everything to do with the quality of the first movie.
>>218208000https://m.youtube.com/@QuintonReviewsHoly fuck, do none of you people use YouTube?!
>>218208013>The CGI got better in later films.It did not
>>218208013When you have to make excuses for a thing, it isn't good.
>>218208053>>218208064Both of you are ignoring the technological capabilities of the films at the time they were released.Also, what is wrong with the shot of the Clone Troopers and the Starships behind them?
>>218207930>actual shot from TPMIs it? Give timestamp.
>>218208126I found this while looking for it. 1:46:08
>>218208053>Describing Clone Troopers as Power RangersKill yourself you Niggerkike.
>>218208198Not the same.
>>218207981that URL's missing the "files" prefix
>>218208300Is there a dot or something else between "files" and "catbox"?
>>218208363yes, a dotalso holy shit this thing is long
>>218208456Holy shit, it actually fucking worked!
>>218208456Also, when was this audio made?
>>2182082911:56:59
