Why don't you guys like superhero flicks? Get it off your chest here. I won't insult you, maybe lightly debate you but that's it. Pinkie promise, anon
>>218292578Does >>218292520 count as a super hero movie?
>>218292578Because they dont cast people that look like that. Also that is worst starfire. Turned her into a massive whore
>>218292578Kek is that a The Pitt comic
>>218292646Red Hood and the Outlaws from New52.
Late 80s/early 90s Starfire was peak. Every other version is literally dogshit. Including the cartoon. Especially the cartoon.
>>218292600I'm not sure, haven't seen it
>>218292578Offenses in order:1) In 2008, the pitch “What if <X superhero> happened in real life?” Was novel. Iron Man and TDK were lightning in a bottle. Then they kept making movies with that premise. Over and over again. It’s played out.2) They conditioned a young movie going audience to expect 200 million dollar budgets from every movie they see in theaters.3) When a book is successfully adapted into a movie, that book gets a second wind in an audience that was introduced to it. When a comic book gets turned into a movie, the comic book industry doesn’t see a rise in sales. When 300 was turned into a movie, many griped that Hollywood doesn’t respect comics any further than treating them like glorified storyboards.4) They’re pro-military, pro-police propaganda. Anyone who challenges the state is portrayed as a villain. Tony Stark was a weapons dealer, TDK justified the Patriot Act, TDKR took Occupy Wall Street and made them Bane and his goons. The narrative argument of one person having the most power being good for everyone because they’re somehow morally or ethically superior is the same used to defend the US being the world’s police. The only movie / series to deconstruct this power fantasy was the Watchmen.
why were comics back then so awesome? i remember stumbling to a gen13 comic and i think i fapped to almost every page.
>>218292840I can see your point with Watchmen, but then by doing it just like Moore envisioned, he unintentionally glorified Rorschach (and The Comedian to a lesser extent). Instead of owning up that such a character would be a natural consequence of Moore's proposed worldview in Watchmen, he decides to rib on the audience which just kind of shows how out of touch he actually was.
>>218292926Trvth
>>218292855Even marvel or dc heroines would do something uncharacteristically sexy or slutty every once in a while
>>218292855It was a different time.
I didn't mind the smaller self contained stories with few characters. But they got too bloated for their own good.
>>218292855It called "catering to normal people"
>>218293010Imagine if the Birds of Prey movie was like this
>>218292683including that fat, ugly dyke who self-inserted herself as the daughter of starfire.
>>218293031Too based for modern audiences.
>>218293010>sniff
We went from this>>218292855to this
>>218292683Hello king.
>>218292840>They’re pro-military, pro-police propagandaKys faggot
>>218292578it's all made by jews. the comics, the movies, everything
>>218293010Huntress is kino tummy. DC should never cover her up
comics were kinda based back then
>>218293140That ginger was lucky
>>218292578>>218292626new 52 sucks so much ass
>>218292578Same reason I don't like comics anymore, they went woke>>218292683The 2000/2010s looks way better
>>218292578Post the original version
>>218293184It did give us slut Harley though
>>218293168>Those thighsUnf
>>218292578Same reason I don't like Kurtzman Trek or Disney Predator, etc. Female sensibilities shouldn't be taken into account at all creatively. It's just too bland, safe and lame.
>>218293210That panel is straight from the comic unlike yours
>>218292578Because its for fucking children? I'm 32. You need to outgrow capeshit by 15 max or you're never getting laid
>>218293154jfc. did raimi write this?
>>218293220Which nobody likes. The Kesel & Dodson solo, dini Sirens era was her peak.
>>218293107Every Marvel & DC movie that uses military bases, weapons, or vehicles need express approval from the US military for the entire script. Iron Man originally had Jeff Bridges say “We have soldiers who would kill themselves for this kind of tech!” And a general said “No change that. We have a real problem with veterans committing suicide.” So they had to change it to “they’d walk over hot coals for this tech”.
I need the Human Spider swastika edit
>>218293220Hate that shit
>>218292683Teen Titans had better tummy kino
>>218292683>Every other version is literally dogshitI wouldn't go that far.
>>218292578Because as someone who grew up reading superhero comics every one of them do a shit job of adaptation.
Supergirl was underage here btw
>>218292578are you a real capeshit lover?how much old capeshit have you watched?
>>218292578When I was growing up comics were for nerds. They might be mainstream now but that didn't change anything to me.
>>218293044Oh yeah, I remember that
>>218293344When did superheroes go from punching bad guys to this faggoty relationship drama bullshit?
>>218293361Legal on Krypton.
>>218293254I have 4 kids. Stay mad
>>218293252That panel was what was originally going to be in the comic, before DC made Lobdell change it.
>>218293302Sounds good antifa bootlicker.
>>218293410it's disgusting that he needs to remind himself not to be attracted to a 17 year old, she's like 10 years away from her brain fully maturing
>>218292578>introduce a world concept where anything and everything is thrown into it like a garbage disposal>wasteland of despair with no real way out>near-unstoppable entity that devours everything it sees>do nothing with it>use it as a standin for an already established settingThe Void at The End of Time has so much potential and just continues to be squandered
>>218293418Proof?
>>218293406Since the 60's unc.
>>218293377I'm 55 so 99% of it. I can't defend all of it ofc or even the majority of it tbhh
>>218292578The dialogue is never funny. Subjective, but true. No wit. We're also burnt out on subversive vulgarity, if they even had the balls to try at that. We've already crossed every line, it's no longer thrilling.Also, I'm not developing any feelings over cape people, and much of the movie is spent trying to do this. This is not tragedy, this is comedy, it's a fucking comic book movie.I can enjoy a silly movie, I can enjoy a little bit of mindless action. But the writing is always so, so unfunny.
>>218293449Are you kidding? Do you know where we are? I would never post pics of my kids on this fucking cesspool.
>>218293494just blur their faces and genitals
>>218293503First off, I don't have any pics like that and secondly, I wouldn't even do that. I don't trust any of you. I don't even trust my friends around them or family, for that matter. So why in the hell would I trust a bunch of sociopaths on 4chan of all places
>>218293428The metaphorical boot in the term “bootlicker” is worn by the person who has institutional power.
>>218293344In the 2000s she still looked good (depending on artist) but no longer had the naive personality from the early days which was a charm point.
i like superhero movies. they're fun. if anything, i more dislike when the movies or their fans try to elevate them into something big or deep. i think this is why the dc stuff failed. they always aim for adults. i never saw those spider-man animated movies, but at least they knew the right audience.
>>218292578They are not genuine anymore. Everything is self-parody now. Man of Steel is the only good one because it doesn't make a joke every 15 seconds.
>>218293190miss Pete and MJ>>218292683based. poofy haired Starfire was best Starfire
>>218293441women's brains dont mature after 13.
>>218292855Sarah Rainmaker was my thing.
>>218292988This is ludicrously out of character. Not Wasp acting like a whore, it's the fact that she called Hulk "Banner" and he didn't immediately rip her head off before even noticing her tits were out.
>>218293503>and genitals
>>218295233This is from Ultimate I do believe. Everyone was ooc in that
>>218293410Hasn't she been 17 for like 30 years, though? I don't remember the details, but I'm pretty sure she was a teenager while Superman was just a baby and she spent the time between Krypton's destruction and her landing on Earth in suspended animation or some time bubble or something.
>>218295308Don't try to understand comic book ages. They're inconsistent get constantly get reset.The Bat family is an even bigger mess.
sexfire
>>218292683holy based
>>218292578They've devolved into 80 IQ ever since Endgame. At least before that they were 100 IQ sometimes 105.
>>218293537Because we're asking nicely.
>>218292683how about 80s Starfire in the style of the cartoon?
>>218296277disgusting. i can't fap to that.
Neckbeards used to be comic book writers drawing hot women so other Neckbeards could masturbateNow Neckbeards are pro lgbt promoting homosexuality and wokism for other sexual degenerates
>>218292578I like the source material. Don't care for the movies all that much as they often deviate too much from the comics and the storytelling isn't as good on average, even if comics have lower lows as a whole.The last cape flick I enjoyed somewhat was pic rel.
I like them fine, there just didn't need to be 5 a year.
>>218293010>>218292855Exhibitionism is based
>>218292578Because I like comic books and superhero flicks are a pale imitation of worthwhile comics books, by which I mean 1/10000 of them.
>>218292926You really just can’t top the irony of Moore being mad that people view a character named Rorschach differently than he intended.
>>218292855early 90s seemed to be the peak. balance between quality art, seductive females, more realistic colouring, but still had enough story and things happening. mid to late 90s became the point where they'd have an 11 page comic with panels of nothing going on at all, and after three pages there would be a single word, then a full page advert then the end.i really can't stand those. fifty issues before something happened. stylised rain drops
>>218293031anyone see the special flash animations they put out maybe 20 years ago of the birds of prey or whatever they were called. it had Bruce timm style animation, barley quinn, poison ivy and another girl, they were in a prison cell in one of them. sort of semi animated, more like a moving picture book, but mostly static.
>>218296285not with that attitude, you cant
>>218293220>turned her into an ugly witchy cunt, female joker.conpletely the opposite of the point of her character.
>>218292578People had so much patience with those fucking movies, there were only ever a few good ones. Studios suck, make a better movie like Chronicle. Hey grok, make a teen titans movie in the style of Chronicle
Marvel peaked here.00's comics suck.
>>218293418did you abduct them all from the same playground?
>>218293503ha
>>218293537you don't trust your friends or family around your children?which south american country are you from?
>>218296277looks like punctuation
>>218293537> I don't even trust my friends around them or family, for that matter.You really need to work on your judge of character or get new friends.
>>218296247Absolutely not
>>218296753>>218296836I didn't trust anyone period. Most abuse comes from people who are close to you, far more then strangers. Morons
>>218296713I still very much liked the Messiah era of X-Men, but after that it was downhill.
>>218293406>t. goo goo ga ga baby
>>218293410
>>218292578>>218292855I love superhero comics. Superhero movies are embarrassing nonsense consisting of overpaid Jewish slaves playing pretend in silly costumes on a green screen. Superhero comics are awesome, at least were, and are the domain of the hot-blooded young white male and anyone hating them is a cuck, brown or both. No exceptions. The mixture of fantasy, sci-fi, real-world with endless characters, factions and powers to play with alongside the titilation from the women and the aspiration from the men is why superhero comics are the purest expression of a young straight cis white male's creativity and boundless love for storytelling.It's the best medium of storytelling, bar none.
>>218292578Well the truth is I'm deeply, deeeeeeeeeply insecure about how others perceive me so I only admit to engaging with mature and adult media so that others will think I'm smart.
>>218292578Passionate babymaking sex with Starfire.
>>218297876well said
I think superheroes went to shit when some retard out there thought>superheroes are humans too...>and humans are... le bad....>so that means... superheroes are bad too!!!And then almost every fucking superhero work after that single idea turned into edgy bullshit where every superhero is a terrible person because the writer was bullied as a childWhen Watchmen did it, it was cool and novel and not overdone but then everyone wanted to do the fucking same. The only other film to do it well was Incredible because it didn't reach the "humans are bad" conclusion, rather it just left it at "superheroes are humans too"
>>218297992What's that other film? Logan? Just curious here
>>218293220she looks like a tranny in this
>>218293361And? That's a kiss. It's not sex. You think it's illegal to kiss underage girls?
>>218298079It's not exactly smiled upon. I'm 55 and ppl would definitely give me a look for kissing a 15 yo girl like this
>>218298091yeah, well, when you're 85 years old you're going to regret all the things you thought you were "too old for" at 55.
>>218298123Oh I already do but kissing 15 yo girls won't be one of them
>>218298133I had sex with a 16 year old girl when i was in my 30s. Feel free to judge me.
>>218292578Ugly casting, same people over and over, muh realism valued over fun/accuracy
>>218298146Oh? Good for you. That's the only judgement I have for you
>>218293107https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzHLPnGuVSQ
>>218292578>>218292683bro, nobody cares about Fuck-ass teen titans outside the cartoons
>>218298227>t. the most stupid poster ITT
>>218297876>bring up the jews out of nowhere>mention cucking and minorities in the same sentence>think about young white boysIdeal capeshit audience.
>>218298329>im a heckin valid trans girl btw if anyone cares
>>218298349>bring up guys with tits unpromptedAlso forgot that one.
A lot comic book stuff is just more jewish psyop bullshit accepting the outsider(proxy for jews).
>>218298380>bring up the jews out of nowhere1/4. Bonus points if you mention Indians.
>>218298329I'm not thinking about white boys looking at this. I don't expect you to understand that. Maybe you're just projecting
because any current superhero author or director hates the material
>>218298393Have another. Have two
>>218298264Until now. Because I just posted.
>>218298393>mentions women once>mentions hot-blooded young studs three timesI'm just saying...
>>218298388>Not a single counter argumentThe maker of Superman is jewish.Stan Lee is jewish.
>>218298416I'm not even that anon. Here have another while you think of young boys
>>218292578(((hollywood))) literally cant even make a decent Crow movie anymore
>>218298329Many jews are comic authors this is fact.
>>218298439>bring up the jews out of nowhereShalom.>>218298444>mentions young boysCheckaroo.>>218298461>bring up the jews out of nowhere>>218298462>bring up the jews out of nowhereSlow down guys, I can't keep track.
>>218298470>getting replaced by AI
>>218298461The original Crow movie was lightning in a bottle, never to be replicated again. Same with Blade. Look at all these young white boys!
>>218298470Still not an argument bro. How's Tel Aviv schlomo or are you just a shabbos goy?
>>218298470Your ad hominem is pure aids. Stop posting forever
>>218298490>AI out of nowhereExtra points. Very Reddit.>>218298491True opinion, but be careful posting tranny art.>>218298496>bring up the jews out of nowhere>>218298506>brings up AIDS out of nowhereOut of the closet, please.
>>218298526Your the one with the aids like posts, symptoms and diagnosisJust pointing it out means I noticed it. Lmao faggot
>>218298584>knows the symptoms of AIDS>thinking of faggots
>>218298602Sorry you got AIDS, anally inflicted death sentence kek
>>218298622>thinking about AIDS and fantasizing about anal sex>ran out of bony flat-assed girls to postTime to open up that shirtless male model folder, champ. Or do you only post those pics on /hm/?
>>218298653>Thinking about shirtless male models >Mentions /hm/What are you really trying to tell us? Lmao
>>218298672I'm telling you to stop jerking off to jpegs of Chippendales waiters before you go blind.
>>218293010>hop in, dude
>>218298705>Mentions jerking off>To male waiters no less>Even knows which male waiters specifically to jerk off toAnon, you starting to really tell off on yourself here. It's embarrassing for you!
>>218298736I'm sure you'd like to see me flustered, Mr. Homo, but I don't swing that way.
>>218298526>anongay and has aids>his penis doesnt work>virginitystill intact, he stepped on a rusty used heroin needle
>>218298751>Mentions that he's getting flustered out of nowhere>Now going off about swingingOk we get it, anon
>>218298751>Loves a man named Mr. HomoNow, now. Let's leave your proclivities out of this. No one cares what goes on in your closet
>>218298754>more fantasies about limp cock and aids needles>>218298796>boyfriend coming to the rescueYou two are adorable together.
And for the viewers at home, the faggot in the middle (>>218298780) did not bear mentioning, because he was too busy being stuffed from both sides by the other two.
>>218292578I liked them when they were treated like movies for adults. Sam Raimi's Spiderman, the Hulk movie with Edward Norton, the first maybe 2 X-men movies, Tim Burton's Batman.I didn't change my mind, the capeshit went bad. It's all cringe, it's not interesting, it's failing to be funny, it's childish in the worst way possible and then the final nail in the coffin was that it all went woke.
>>218298827>Starts fantasizing about getting stuffed at both ends by faggotsNow you're just going to far. Mods! Mods!! Butthurt bitch here won't shut the fuck up about cocks for some reason
>>218293220"she" looks like The Crow, or Sting. What the fuck is that bloated jawline.Any Harley Quinn with dyed hair instead of a blonde with a jester hat is dead on arrival
>>218298862You take too much dick to ever be butthurt. Now you're just incontinent.
>>218298958>Anon mentions he can't stop shitting himselfYou can stop this massacre at any time
>>218299044Massacre? like your entire industry, dying with boomers?
>>218299044We can stop the "massacre" now, anon. I know you have to get back to taking it from your boyfriends.
>>218299073Makes sense. I don't read manga since it's for girls, but it actually becomes valuable after it goes out of print, unlike western comics.
>>218299073>Thinks his unsolicited opinions mean anything to anyoneYour seething is pure and unadulterated. Are your parents related perchance lmao
>>218299080>Starts fantasizing about having a boyfriend yet again in the middle of a thread Really, anon. You can do better than this
>capeshit thread>gayest thread on /teevee/hmmm
>>218299095This.>>218299108Every "no u" is a confession, anon. Just remember thatr.
>>218299118It's only gay because I'm here.
>>218299119>Literally starts confessing how much he likes longjohns with the cream in the middleNow you're just embarrassing yourself
>rambling about nothingThe syphilis reached his brain.
>>218299095>calls opinions unsolicited>in the thread he made soliciting opinions>completely irrelevant and unemployed person calls others seething>so pathetic being laid off from comic book studio he makes ragebait threads just to feel something
>>218299160Maybe start with rosettastone.com instead of 4chan.
>>218299225
>>218299233
>>218292683Preach brother
>>218299160>Literally greentexts about nothing any one can understand>Demands to be understood>Pure feminine energy and reeks of solitude and misery
>people stop posting supersluts>thread turns to shit
>>218299248
>>218299274
>Carol-ThingI want to see her Thing-ies
>>218299284
>>218299295
>>218299307
>>218299321Thanks for getting this back on track
>>218299361>hyper-realistic feetWho the fuck drew this?
>villains whose motives are hard to refute
>>218299291It was actually Sharon Ventura, the 2nd Ms. Marvel. Carol was Binary, with the X-Men, at the time.
>>218299307>>218299321Damn, that is some shit dialogue.
>>218299427>dissing Peter DavidFuck off, man.
>>218299397I don't know, honestly. I saved it to show an ex who is obsessed with HQ. Huge red flag btw
>>218299427Comics back then were better written. They looked and flowed better, too.
>>218299419I loved Binary but she didn't stick around for very long
>>218299397>>218299448Greg Hornhttps://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comic/4140138/the-batman-who-laughs-1?variant=6773081
>>218299477Ah nice Thank you, anon. You're a trooper
>>218299448>Huge red flag btwBlinded by the pussy, were we?>>218299477>Greg HornAw fuck, not him! Now I'm just thinking about those shitty Emma Frost covers!
>>218299505Yeah, kinda. I had known her for 30 years and she was always nice to me but two of my gfs despised her and now ik why. Long story short, she was batshit insane, convinced at least three others lived inside of her (I have a friend with actual DiD so ik when it's fake ass bullshit when I see it) and had convinced herself she had all sorts of maladies. None of which turned out to be true. It's...a really long story that no one here wants to hear I'm sure. Great d&d player tho but that's because she can channel crazy really well. She has her mom and dad fooled but they are starting to see the extent of it and basically cut her tf off, no contact, nothing. Her mother is equally batshit so the apple didn't fall far from the tree, yeah. I could fill this thread with the bullshit she did but I digress
There is nothing wrong with superhero movies in principle. What I hate is factory-produced shoveled shit manufactured on an industrial scale. Marvel released something like 50 superhero movies in the span of about a decade. These are shot 90% in the same studio in LA in front of a green screen. They are creatively bankrupt, devoid of any artistic intent, repetitive, boring, pointless. They are the epitome of art as a consumer product.I'm not ignorant to the fact that most movies are products, but these movies specifically are the vulgar extreme of that reality. The epitome of soulless.
>>218292578>more hot superheroines>less gay shitthere, i fixed it
>>218299580Yeesh, that sounds rough, especially for someone you've known that long.>>218299844Good job, anon.
>>218297876Can't really use Jewish as a negative for the movies when comics have been written by jews forever
>>218299861Yeah it was. She told me that you don't bleed on someone that didn't cut you. I thought it was good advice. No, it was a warning about what she does to people. I told her that and she got so pissed because above all else, she's a narcissist. Everything about her is a performance. I'm glad we broke up although at the time I loved her deeply. I thought I could fix her but you can't fix something that is irrevocably broken. Everything she accused me of, she was herself. It became downright evil, how everyone was out to get her all the time, the victim mentality she's rode her whole life. I'd only read about this shit before her, never actually witnessed it first-hand. She's still playing the victim with her newest victim. I want to warn him but ik it wouldn't do any good. One gf that actually loved me tried to warn me about her and I wouldn't listen either. One of the worse things is that she got about 20-30k out of me, which was dumb af on my behalf. I ignored every single red flag she presented me. It was stupid. I just liked her so long, I never thought someone I had been friends with 30+ years would betray me. That's just me projecting though because I would never do that. It's so stupid, I wish I could forget this whole thing happened. I got a 21 yo girl that absolutely would give me the time of day but at this point I just can't. I'm way older than her and I know our outlooks just won't match. At this point, I wanna heal. I actually turned down a fmf threesome just because I want to heal so bad. The old me would have jumped on that. The new me put the brakes on it
>>218293406kek have you never read a comicbook before?
>>218292578Reminder that this page is the start of DC becoming the dogshit company it is today.
>>218298146That's nice, anon.
>>218293406When Marvel took off in the '60's.
DC and Marvel should just copy their old animated series.
>>218300906oh they do
>>218301012
>>218301012What is this?!
>>218301026>Set in the world of the beloved show, the digital-first series is written by the show’s producers Paul Dini and Alan Burnett and illustrated by Ty Templeton, who worked on the show’s old tie-in comic series Batman Adventures.
>>218292855At that time, they needed to sell comics, not rely on movies, and merchandising wasn't what it later became. So... they had to target the comic book-buying audience, the nerd, the fatty loser, the skinny guy with glasses and acne. Naturally, marvel/dc greedily saturated the market.
>>218301058Is it new?? I thought I was pretty versed in Matban media
Superheros have SEX ok???? get over it
>>218301175Batman doesn’t do that
>>218301152Ran from 2021 to 2023.
>>218301241Damn. Putting this on my backlog
>>218292578I do, it's just, I refuse to take the genre seriously until we get an all female buddy-cop comedy with (mostly white passing) marvel girlssimple as
>>218301259Name 3 supes you would like to see in that. I'm gonna go forWhite RabbitBig BerthaFirestar, the token mutant
>CapeshitGrow up
>>218301432You first. Let us know if your having fun with your serious films. Faggot
>>218292578Because they used to be made for white sexually repressed nerds (me) but now they're made for a "modern audience" that doesn't exist.
>>218292578Cast : StarfireRavenZantannaWonder Woman PowerGirl Etc
>>218293190Not even a huge Spiderman fan anymore, but this relationship between MJ and Peter was the best I've seen in comics and they traded it away to have Peter be a dumbass 22 year old forever
>>218298146sure unc lmao
>>218292578I stopped liking comic book films when they started being too faithful. There's nothing wrong with adapting something so that it makes more sense in film. And when an adaptation does differ from the source material, what you end up with is two complimentary works.I don't like them anymore, but Scott Pilgrim is a nice example. They had to cut a lot out in order to fit seven books into one movie, so the twins for instance don't even seem like characters. I'm fine with this because I don't want Scott Pilgrim to be 3 1/2 hours long and I don't believe we would have ever gotten the sequel if they'd tried splitting it up. And besides cutting stuff there are some substantial changes. In the movie he ends up with Ramona but in the books he ends up with Knives. I don't feel like the movie neither ruins not fixes the ending, just compliments it as a companion piece. Ultimately the movie cannot be seen as a replacement for the books. I don't even like this franchise anymore though.Yes I am a Super Mario Bros. (1993) chad.
>>218299073Comics are dying, but the real money is in toys and collectibles. There's enough childless Millennials with disposable income to keep shops open still even if not as many
>>218301111>anti-lgbtq orgsI understand that it is a fiction, but what would be a real life analogy to that? In Europe it's outright illegal, in US I suppose it depends on the state but I've never heard of a legitimate officially registered and operating non-profit organization that positions itself as an anti-lgbtq.
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>>218303052I don't know, but I want to join one.
>>218292626>Because they dont cast people that look like that.spbp
>>218292578i saw ironman and it was pretty goodthen i saw thor and it was okthen i saw the avengers and it was mehand then i saw one other that i dont really remember and i realized they were all basically the same movie and really not that enjoyablethey peaked with ironman tbqh but now extended universes are ruining filmmaking because the suits want to plan out mediocre movies years in advance and there's no going back
>>218292926>Instead of owning up that such a character would be a natural consequence of Moore's proposed worldview in Watchmen, he decides to rib on the audience which just kind of shows how out of touch he actually wasNot familiar with everything Moore has said on the topic but the easily findable quotes don't conflict with your view necessarily, unkempt edgelords who see Rorschach as a "badass" are worthy of contempt.It's easy to be uncompromising when you're dealing with killer pedos but, as the finale proves, two individuals can have vastly different ideas about what constitutes "good", and different abilities to predict the long-term outcomes of their decisions.
95% of comic book shit is cringe, I cant take it seriously.
I think it's mainly MCUshit that draws my ire. After all I didn't mind Man of Steel or Hellboy
>>218293031>They're better when stinky.I had no idea cobblepot was this based
Besides Starfire, is there any other superheroines who don’t mind being nude ?
>>218304750silver surferhulk i guess but hes always got those shorts
>>218304374>murdering millions in war is le bad>murdering millions via clever deception is le good2deep4me
>>218304750Wonder Woman if she's around only women probably
>>218302455Surprisingly based opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
>>218304728God, now I'm imagining the smells...And they're GREAT!
>>218292578Several reasons come to mind. Aesthetically i prefer comic movies that account for the source medium. I don´t want realism, i want Burton´s Gotham, Dick Tracy´s exaggeration and emotional color, Sin City´s stylized use of contrast and simplified shapes. I find capeshit cinematographic universes really add nothing to the medium. I understand this is inherent to the nature of cinematographic universes because certain degree of consistency is needed but i don´t like it. Another reason is that i like stand alone movies. I like things to end, i like stories to be meaningful, i like films that can defend themselves. With cinematographic universes you have to watch to other movies, a tv show, 3 comics and read a specific tweet from 2017 to have all the information for things to even make sense. It´s impossible for me to emotionally connect with such disjointed logic. Finally capeshit always shy away from lasting consequence. The movies end where they should start. I don´t want a sad cemetery scene. I want an exploration of what the character is feeling and what someone in an extraordinary situation is doing to cope. The sort of fragility that makes even the strongest of heroes as weak as everybody else. I mean, not exactly that but something meaningful you know? Something that´s more than yet another world saving story.
>>218303052They're called churches.
>>218303052Westboro Baptist, dumbass.
>>218305735this looks terrible
But I do like superhero flicks, it's just that most movies that come out nowadays suck because their characters and writing have been flanderized into repetitive and unfunny humor. I love a good chunk of the pre-endgame MCU films and I really liked GOTG3 and that recent Superman film. I like it when the movies are willing to put aside the humor for heartfelt moments and not suddenly cut to humor the last second to break the tension
I know money doesn't equal quality but there's no denying this genre had made billions of dollars and a lot of people filthy fucking rich. I honestly stopped caring about fidelity to the source material because I realized early on that was never gonna happen. I used to bitch about inaccurate costumes, horrible casting, terrible mischaracterization etc. and then I just stopped giving a fuck. Comics are terrible in consistency anyway so wanting the movies to adhere to any sense of meaning or even internal logic is just a fool's errand at best, stupidly naive at worst. Picrel et al was my bible for years, I'd read them cover to cover at least a hundred times apiece and even developed a trrpg for my group based on the avengers alliance games, faserip, and other sources only for no one in my group to ever express interest in it. And they love superhero shit. I could write a superhero movie at this point, and I feel it might echo watchmen a little bit. I would stick to the genre so hard it would be universally derided. I could not water it down for normies to save my life. I doubt I could make even /co/ happy. I might be hardcore but they make me look like a toddler fumbling at my mother's apron strings.
>>218306760Moopersan saving a squirrel was a waste of film. I get why they did it but I really wish they would have expressed that character trait different.
>>218303052There aren't any. Regardless, you fall into the trap of believing them and their words, or assigning them any rational value. Before Rowling became Mengele's heir buying a Harry Potter product meant supporting an "ally," a woman who did a lot for the community, an empowered woman. After... her fall, every time a Harry Potter related product comes out, you can check twitter for the usual suspects with their "if you buy this, you're funding anti-LGBT products". They even do it with the original previously praised books and have the nerve to now say "I always knew Rowling was a terf".
>>218293220did they model this whorelequin on sarah jessica parker?
>>218306760Friend, these movies going overboard with the comedy/lack of sincerity isn’t a new thing. I remember how pissed off people were with Iron Man 3 that it was basically a comedy that didn’t take itself seriously at all.
>>218306760>>218307196Yeah that became a problem pretty much right around Avengers
>>218292578It is just meaningless power desire fullfiling made in a very childish way.
>>218299073I have never seen a comic shop carry that much manga No wonder the store went out of business
>>218307852That picture is disingenious. Popular comics regularly sell 40k-50k a month. That's far from the heights of former comic book "ages" ie the bronze age but it's enough to keep some titles going
>>218292578Realism and modern political/social trends ruin what makes capeshit fun and escapist.She-Hulk (2022) made me quit the MCU because I've read that character for 20 years and it's impossible for a modern American film writer to do an accurate version. She has to be angry, bitterly feminist, and neurotic, and that's the opposite of what she was in her best comics.
>>218307892I live near 5 comic shops and none of them have that much room dedicated to manga. People go to barnes and noble if they want to go to a store and by Japanese comics
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>>218308194She was fairly angry in the early comics and even had a dickish male coworker who would always say awful, sexist things to her, but it never made her unlikable. The fourth wall breaking sexpot stuff came later.The most egregious thing about the show was how they handled her origin. She was a crusading attorney with a client who was to testify about his mob connections, which led to an attempt on her life. Banner gives her a blood transfusion in a desperate ploy to to save her life, and that gives her the powers, but she was in that situation because she was trying to do something heroic on her own. She-Hulk could step in to do the right thing when Jennifer couldn't. The show trivialized all of that and made it like she caught a cold from him or something.
>>218308336More like an AIDS infection.
>>218307006Unless the source material has serious potential, I usually just chock the character and story differences up to classic Elseworld/What If? shit.That being said, Hulk's origin in the MCU should've been a fucking gamma bomb. Tony Stark was RIGHT THERE!
>>218308775They fumbled Hulk the worst imo
>>218292578They’re not as good or as sexy as the comics they claim to represent. Storywise, womenwise, none of it’s as good. Especially not in the last 15 years or so.
>>218308800She just exudes pure sex, goddamn
>>218307150>if you buy this, you're funding anti-LGBT productsThe problem isn't even that this statement is wrong; it isn't. Rowling is as petty as she is a nutcase, and she said she funds TERF orgs. The problem is that none of these Twitter cunts would ever use this logic for anything else they may enjoy. They wouldn't even dare to look into any other seedy shit they support by consuming Hollywood shit. Unless of course someone else told them about it on Twitter.
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>>218292578I never really got into them 'cause my exposure was a bunch of grown men in funny outfits moralizing about not killing really bad guys, some of whom constantly escape prison. Child me thought it was dumb, and I haven't bothered reassessing that opinion.
>>218308194>Jen: I get catcalled and talked down to, what do you know about suffering and anguish?>Bruce: I watched my psychotic father beat my mother to death when I was ten. He blamed me for it.
>>218292578Because they look absolutely nothing like the picture you posted.
Manga is way superior to all them gay ass western comics
>>218308194>"i'm great at controlling my anger">gets increasingly upset throughout this monologue
>>218310555Tut tut, anon. You know damn well the MCU doesn't have the balls to disclose literally ANYTHING about Bruce Banner's upbringing or serious mental trauma. Heh... hehe...
>over reliance on low quality cg>terrible casting in general, actors don't resemble their characters except rarely>actors are just playing themselves, not the heroes, spend almost all of their time out of costume like the narcissists they are>inability to fully embrace being a comic book superhero, everything is self aware and mocking how silly and nerdy comics are, going from the dialog to the new costumes to the mocking of the old costumes>mixed in with above, the forced pseudo realism in all these movies>constant obnoxious quipping during serious scenes>full of current year political shit, female sexiness is toned down, diversity crap everywhere, feminist rhetoric constantly being parroted unchallenged>terrible fight choreography in general>extra bitter because comics were previously something you'd get bullied for due to being a nerd hobby and now the exact same knuckle dragging retards that were doing the bullying lap this diarrhea up and it has become the definitive depiction of these characters at large due to how popular this shit is with normgroidswebm distantly related
>>218310747>>218310555I will never understand why Ang Lee's Hulk got shit on so much but the horrible depictions of him that came later were universally praised. I remember people bitching that it was too "comic book-y" at the time, which was just ridiculous to me.
>>218310815>I will never understand why Ang Lee's Hulk got shit on so much but the horrible depictions of him that came later were universally praised.It's the most comic accurate Hulk adaptation to ever exist. I saw it opening day with my mom, she was bitching about how it wasn't like the Bill Bixby show.
>>218292578I watched a lot of them up until endgame where capeshit peaked and everything since then has felt like beating a dead horseand honestly even endgame was too much, infinity war should've been the end of it
>>218310838Even beyond being comic accurate I think it's just a great movie in general. Eric Bana plays a phenomenal Bruce Banner, he conveys barely controlled rage really well. Jennifer Connelly is great Betty and she plays that nurturing, loving female presence that can calm the raging beast perfectly. All the scenes showing what the Hulk can do, especially in the desert, are absurdly well done, especially at showing just how fast and agile he can be. The scenes where he hulks out for the first time screaming in agony mixed with rage in the lab and when he literally simmers down, heat radiating off his body as he shrinks when he sees Betty in the city have been burned into my memory since I first saw it.https://youtu.be/0mOGqPHbM7g?t=123
>>218301557There's no woman living or dead who can portray most of these properly. Wonder Woman had a great one, but that was a long time ago and she's since gotten too old for it. Now there's no one who can match the physicality of them, and even fewer with any real respect for what they're actually like. They'd all just turn into the same brand of bland we see out of the current media landscape.
>>218310815>I will never understand why Ang Lee's Hulk got shit on so much but the horrible depictions of him that came later were universally praisedNormalfags aren't interested in Bruce Banner. That's what it really boils down to.
>>218310918>There's no woman living or dead who can portray most of these properly.I think that's shaped by the cultural landscape and the powers-that-be in movie land. Angelina Jolie wore padding over her chest to play Lara Croft, and Eva Mendes gained weight on purpose to be as voluptuous as a comic book character for her role in Ghost Rider. This was 20-25 years ago, though.I'm of the opinion that women are like water, they take the form of the cup that contains them. In a different, less woke culture, Brie Larson, Sophie Turner, et al. would make their sex appeal as the characters they play part of their branding instead of talking about how strong they are. I don't know if being objectified matters to them as much as having the most politically expedient, publicly expressed opinion about said objectification.For female superhoroes, particularly the powerhouse types, they should go the Schwarzenegger route and find some roided meathead with a good facial structure who can actually act.
>>218292578I'm an adult.
>>218311251If that's the case, you can literally like anything you want
>>218310815>but the horrible depictions of him that came later were universally praisedCitation needed.>why Ang Lee's Hulk got shit on so muchI didn't like it because it was a lifeless melodrama with bad effects and a boring main character. Norton's Hulk movie clears it.>>218310838>comic accurate>no childhood abuse>David Banner is alive and he's Absorbing Man for no reason>Hulk has no character, and he and Bruce have no dynamic>needlessly altered powerset>General Ross has no ties to Bruce and is devoid of panacheWhat are you talking about?
>>218311218>Normalfags aren't interested in Bruce Banner. That's what it really boils down to.The TV series got 5 seasons. People remember how relatable/melancholic Banner was in that at least as much as Lou Ferrigno flexing in slow motion.
>>218292578Mogged by shonen anime
>>218311333Normalfags changed after that show. Mid 80's to 90's they got a lot dumber.
>>218311349Pic unrelated.
>>218311372nice fanfic
>>218311333They were actually forced to write to get those numbers (viewers) up.Those days have been long gone
>>218311320Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>218311333Using past generations is cheating and you know it, 99% of shows from the 80's and earlier would be panned today for being too slow.
>>218311423If you need to believe I'm being disingenuous to continue liking a shit movie, then go ahead.
>>218311314I could like anything I wanted when I was a kid. I don't like this stuff anymore because I am an adult.
>>218311455Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
>>218292683I like big poofy hair but her retarded chipmunk face is bad. Proportions are weird too, her arms and torso look too short.
>>218292855>>218293010They were being made by actual nerds and geeks who, despite being social outcasts who couldn't hold a conversation to save their lives, were still red blooded men that enjoyed boobs, ass and badass heroes with sick weapons fighting cool villains.
>>218311487>Proportions are weird too, her arms and torso look too short.It's called foreshortening.
>>218311470Is that your mantra?
>>218298329I would like to take a moment to politely remind everyone that if 4chan feels slow at the moment, it's because site traffic has dropped considerably on every single board including /pol/ since the war broke out. Take what you will from the implications of this.
>>218311552Well...damnMakes you think
>>218311527See that one looks fine.
>>218311535It's a very solid one to invoke when faggots are trying to be annoying again.
>>218311552We're getting drafted already? Damn
>>218311566>comic She-Hulk>feminine>sex addict>not a massive cunt>still strong>tv show She-Hulk>knuckle dragging manfaced troglodyte>hates men>insufferable feminist rhetoric>mocks physical strength, instead is a modern "strong woman" which means working a dumb suit wearing job while acting condescending to others
>>218311588You seem to be in denial, quite frankly.
>>218292578test
>>218311633You seem to be gay, if I'm being honest.
Lotta faggots in this thread that seem to feel the need to assure themselves they aren't the gayest one here.
>>218311333>The TV series got 5 seasons. People remember how relatable/melancholic Banner was in that at least as much as Lou Ferrigno flexing in slow motion.Women, were actually the main audience for the TV series, along with kids. The kids liked the Hulk and the ladies liked the nice guy played by Bill Bixby who befriended troubled or lonely women and occasionally turned into a shirtless bodybuilder.
>>218312146>The kids liked the Hulk and the ladies liked the nice guy played by Bill Bixby who befriended troubled or lonely women and occasionally turned into a shirtless bodybuilder.Intedasting
>>218293233This is the edited Raimi comic. The unedited is 10 times as racist.
>>218312511explain
>>218293220this is extremely gay
>>218293418Yeah, and they're already obese like their video gamer mom and dad! Bragging about knocking up your hedgehog wife is cool.
>>218312572You should try crying about it
>>218312620Haha I knew it. You should promote a healthy lifestyle for your children but alas...
>>218312730>Frogposter decides to come out as fat lard ass Lmao
>>218312750You are actually mad because I called you and your alleged children obese. Frog website btw.
>>218312804>Absolutely seething retarded frogposter insists he is not fat just big bonedMalding faggot lmao
>>218312833>>218312750>>218312620You responded angrily three times now to being called fat by a total stranger on 4chan. It is certain you are obese.
>>218312889Also an adult who likes comic books and "flexed" having children because he thinks getting a woman pregnant is impossible. He might be 500lbs. We're not dealing with a normal fat.
>>218312889>Dumb and dumber start flexing in how fat they are and they could never get laid because they are so huge. Dumber then brags shit tipping the scales at 500 lbs
