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Hey Fincher, you dickhead. How about making Mindhunter season three instead of this tripe?
>>219459104Is Fincher locked in Netflix prison forever?
why are they immoral?
>>219459104Salaries are immoral Kek
>>219459104I hope Fincher does his autistic CGI bullshit so that Quentin gets mad
yeah because netflix should hoard their wealth and not spend any of it on people who throw away their money like there's no tomorrow
>>219459168That money should be given to me specifically
>>219459104A mutually voluntarily agreed upon payment for acting in a movie, or writing a movie, or directing a movie, cannot be immoral in and of itself. Communism.
>>219459168the majority of the world is struggling and a 20 mil for bullshit it absurd. are you retarded?
>>219459168people don't deserve to get paid for their labor or share in any profitsit should go to the billionaires and private equity companies instead
>>219459104>hey we're running a ponzi scheme on the stock market with your company>spend a shitload of money so we can make up stories about how you make so much money and make number go up it's not that deep bro
>>219459252how is that their fault? what do their salaries have to do with the majority of the world struggling? if they only had 500 $ salaries, the world would still struggle
>>219459104End the Fed and this nonsense ends
>>219459306This is what socialists actually believe. They just call those things different things.
>>219459365it's like when people complain about the salaries of sportsball players, bitch it's a private company making an investment and hoping for a bigger return, if hundreds of millions of people like watching a nigga bounce/kick/throw a ball then it's only natural that the guys doing it are gonna get paid a lot
>>219459168Because that's more than I make from my welfare check/pushing carts at the Wal-Mart part-time or whatever.Leftists have this weird thing where if [person A] voluntarily agrees to give [person B] a sum of their own money of [$X] in exchange for [good or service Y], and the leftist (who is completely uninvolved in any of this in AMY way) arbitrarily decides that [$X] is "too much", then it's "immoral" and a sign that "capitalism has failed" and proof we all need to embrace communism and contract AIDS or some shit like that.It's literally just their pleb brains being bewildered by "large" numbers they aren't used to seeing or thinking about, or just them being jealous that someone has or is getting more money than they are.
>stop watching slop>these immoral salaries decrease
>>219459477>but what about MEEEEEYou'd still make the same money if they were paid 0 dollars. Didn't read past the first line
>>219459104Once Upon a Time in Hollywood wasn't all that good. Good acting and good set design but it was so boring because it didn't have any story whatsoever. I can't imagine a TV series based on that being any good.
>>219459151At least it's a comfortable gilded cage prison
>>219459191Kek this. Fincher pissing off QT would make this all worth it.
>>219459252SAAR! ARE YOU RETARDED BITCH?! SAAR!
>>219459104Unless it features Brad Pitt beating up Soviets trying to invade America, I'm not watching
>>219459514Than you failed to detect his sarcasm because he agrees with you.
>>219459252it's not absurd at all, it's normal supply and demand. why are leftists always so mad at basic economics?
>>219459168Because they're making more money than the journo-monkey that churns-out articles/posts for "Film Updates" makes.
>>219459514The you failed to detect my very blatant and obvious sarcasm. Please improve your reading-comprehension.
>netflix: i consent>tarantino: i consent>seething poorfag tranny: I DON'Tisn't there someone you forgot to ask???
>>219459662>>219459773maybe, i was just too lazy to read
>>219459752...demand? where's the demand?
>>219459168being a commie means that unless everyone is living a perfect life nobody gets to have anything.
>>219459752>DemandThis movie is going to flop
>>219459252>20 mil for bullshit it absurdBy what metric?Apparently not by theirs; i.e. the people paying and the people getting paid. It's THEIR money. They didn't take it from you. They didn't "take it" from anyone. They can spend however much of it they want on whatever they like. Just like nobody's stopping you for spending $10K on a pack of gum or some shit.
>>219459804Then you should also be "too lazy" to bother replying then too, right?
>>219459911You'd think, but I'm gay, and my dick is very small.
>>219459104honestly i'm just hoping this gets netflix to release the extended version of OUATIH which they said they were releasing years and years ago like they did with Hateful Eight.
>>219459911maybe...at least i'm not gay, like this guy >>219459931
>>219459807studios need recognizable names to sell their shit (high demand) and almost no actor in the world is as recognizable as brad pitt (low supply), therefore he is able to negotiate huge salaries. it's really not complicated.
>>219459168because it's going to be shit and thanks to spending 80 millions on 3 dudes it's going to look like shit
>>219459104The funniest thing is that still less than rdj salary for avengers doomsday Lol 20 million is fucking pennies compared to Disney 100 million movie salaries
>>219459953lol pretending to be me? pathetic
>>219459807Netflix clearly had a demand for their services. So they paid a mutually agreed-upon asking-price.You understand that "Supply & Demand" aren't EXCLUSIVELY macro-scale concepts that only apply to the collective of all society, right? It also applies on the micro-level in between individual companies, or even between individuals.>I have an Apple. I usually sell them for $4.>For some reason Dave really, REALLY fucking wants an Apple, and he wants it right fucking now.>For whatever reason I currently only have ONE Apple to sell right now.>Therefore, Dave ultimately (happily) agrees to the higher-than-normal asking-price I propose of $5. The price was higher due to Dave's abnormally high Demand and my abnormally low Supply.
>>219459883see>>219459970you are simply confused about what the economic relationship is. you the viewer are not giving brad pitt any money, the studio is giving brad pitt money, because he has something they really want (his face and name).
>>219460049That's just greed with extra steps
>>219459995That's not "immoral". That just makes it "an unwise investment", specifically in YOUR personal, unprofessional estimation.
>>219460078Greed, for lack of a better word, is good.
>>219460078Envy posting that people earn more than you is greed with extra steps.
>>219460078How is it "greed" to maximize how much you're able to get paid for something? That's what literally everybody does.When's the last time you took your paycheck in to your Boss and said "This is inappropriately high; my labor was only worth about 70% of this. Please reduce this amount by about 30% and pay me that instead" or some shit like that?Are you "greedy" for NOT doing something like that?
>>219459168Leftoids, the people who love gay pride parades filled with fat, naked perverts running in front of kids with dildos, and who also want women to be able to kill baby fetuses with impunity after being sexual promiscuous then crying about it on social media, are saying that this is immoral because rich people are making a lot of money, and they are not.
>>219459104>first film made back quadruple its budget>Noooo you can't pay these people that much to possibly make the same profit again!
>>219459168Because they extract a stupid amount of money from poor people for retarded images on a screen.We are talking about decade's of manual labour on a Jewish trick
>>219459890It's exploitative of stupid people who don't understand images on a screen are worthless and people in these industries use to be dirt poor.Wealthy people make bad movies we have to go back.Max 50k/y like Korea
>>219460530>they extract a stupid amount of money from poor people for retarded images on a screenexplain how
>>219459997That's such a waste of money he looks half dead
>>219460633They trick them.It's a legal scam you are doing real work and are getting a fake story in return.
>>219460685>they trick themwell if they are that stupid, it's on them
>>219460633Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
>>219460530more commie brainrot. the "poor people" are individually paying tiny sums of money, completely appropriate and acceptable for the entertainment they receive. if they didn't think it was worth it they wouldn't be paying. the money adds up because a lot of people want the entertainment, ie it's just supply and demand again. i repeat: commies are just mad at supply and demand for no reason.
>>219460685all work someone is willing to pay for is real. "i will repair your toilet" and "i will dress up like a clown and entertain you" are both real work. someone wanted it done so they paid for it.
>>219460734That's how all scams work you promise something and don't deliver.How many bs trailers made movies appear interesting or literally a different everything.Sad movie's passed as comedy,boring stuff like action.Most movie's are a scam real money for time better used elsewhere.
>>219460792So by your premises if I can convince someone something is worth the money it's not a scam.This is literally a Jewish exception to the rules.No other industry can make so many fake claims and get away with a terrible product with a fake description fake value...
>>219460839So if I say something is a comedy but the movie isn't funny at all it's ok because it just is.If I come and fix your car but it doesn't work you get mad and ask for your money back.Can I do that with Netflix?Can I tell them everything I watched this month was bad I want my money back?No then it's a scam.
>>219460775so...they are not "extracting it", it's a consensual trade>>219460846kind of a stretch
>>219460893if the person values the thing you're selling then it's not a scam, yes. if a scat fetishist pays for hookers to shit in his mouth he is not being scammed just because you think that's gross. he likes it, he pays for it, he gets what he wanted. the people that pay for netflix like netflix or else they would have cancelled already. there is no scam.
>>219460989>so...they are not "extracting it", it's a consensual tradeYes.
>>219460530>Because they extract a stupid amount of money from poor people for retarded images on a screen.Why are the poor people voluntarily paying "a stupid amount of money" for what you claim is just "retarded images on a screen"? Are poor people just inherently "stupid" in your wolrdview?
>>219460966companies have return policies you can consult before purchase. just cancel your netflix if you don't like it instead of shitting yourself that other people don't
>>219460149Greed is not good, how is it good? Get out of here Satan.
>>219461048There is I can show you 1 million movies put in the romantic comedy category that have 0 jokes in the or romance.You can also find movie's in the action category that have maybe one scene that would count.If you don't want it to be a scam since the production enjoyment depends on the person let them pay what it was worth to them.Including nothing if they didn't like it.
>>219460530>>219460622>>219460685OK Anon, it seems your beef actually ISN'T with "rich people" to begin with, but instead with the very concept of "movies" even existing as a part of entertainment and consumer culture in the first place?...That's a weird opinion to have considering you're on a place called "/tv/ - Television & Film".
>>219461092Poor people get exploited continually and stupid movie's is all they can afford so they have no choice.They either pay for slop or look at a wall.They can't afford irl fun.
>>219460149Get out of here Satan. Greed is by definition, bad.
>>219459651It does
>>219461127Jesus Christ. First my Simpsons reference goes over Retard #1's head, now you miss a Wall Street reference. TV & Films? Hello? Is this thing on?
>>219461096Anyone can do whatever they want.But don't pretend they sell a product fairly.Trailers are manipulated and lie all the time.That's a scam
>>219460175Earning and being paid more are different things.I at least earn my measly paycheck. These people do not do $20,000,000 worth of work.
>>219460049Demand for the service does not equate a demand for the all products produced under the service. If I paid a monthly fee to get free groceries from Kroger that doesn’t mean I want to eat a rotten turd they paid $10 million to include in the list of groceries I could select
>>219460178I don't do that because there's a contractual agreement that both parties sign and agree to. Demanding more money for the same amount of work based on the fact you might be one of the only people that can do it, is greed.The same thinking that drove this man to take this photo to win an award instead of saving a life.>Yes the child was never seen of again, eaten alive by birds.>Yes, he later anhero'd because of it.
>>219461139>Including nothing if they didn't like it.again, this exists. it's called "cancel subscription." the fact that people don't cancel means they like this crap, and it's their business. why are you so butthurt about other people paying for shit they like but you don't?
>>219461157How about they make something worthwhile and then they get paid like normal people without extracting so much money from poor people.
>>219459252Wtf are you going to do about it bitch? Except cry on some irrelevant site to irrelevant people? Are you going to change anything bitch? Fucking bitch. Bitch fuck. Always whining and complaining and throwing your shit around like a monkey. Cunt bitch.
>>219461227"i wasn't as entertained as i hoped it would be" is not a scam. stop trying to squeeze victimhood out of everything like a nigger.
>>219461232Anything (don't be a weasel and be like what about murder!) you do to convince another to give you something is earning it. If I stay in the good graces of my grandfather, I earn the inheritance he bequeaths me. If my girlfriend gratifies me sexually and emotionally, she earns the gifts and dates and shelter I give her. Brad Pitt earns his fee. CEOs earn their bonuses. You earn tonguing niggers anuses.
>>219459970How is it not complicated? You’re arguing that there’s a demand for Brad Pitt worth $20 million unrecognized in the streaming market. Nobody, ever, in the history of the world, has thought “I need to subscribe to Netflix, they have Brad Pitt.” They might think “oh Netflix has Inglourious Basterds, I liked that. Sure I’ll try a month.” These idiots still operate under the idea that action movie stars like Schwarzenegger are still a thing, they’re not. Absolutely fucking no one is going to subscribe to Netflix to watch the misadventures of Cliff Booth lmao
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>>219459168All of that can go to browns in the 3rd world who create nothing but shit and rape
>>219461269It's a scam and nobody is actually happy with what they are paying but there are no other options (because they are poor).Give people enough money to go on vocation or buy some fun toys and let's see how many waste their time watching this stuff.It's a very nice trap but it fits every definition of a scam.You think you have to force people when you scam them?At one point all scams are voluntary
>>219461293i don't want to live in a society where everything depends on your retarded whims about what's "normal." we tried communism already and it collapsed.
>>219461323How about if I can prove the description of the product is fake?Because most have literally lies on the packaging
>>219461325If your grandfather leaves you money in his will, you did not earn it, its pointless to discuss if you believe spending time with your grandparents and 'loving' them is 'work' or not. Plus you even said it yourself:>bequeath /bĭ-kwētH′, -kwēth′/transitive verb To leave or give (personal property) by will. To pass (something) on to another; hand down. To give or leave by will; to give by testament; -- said especially of personal property. No where does that mention earning.>CEOs earn their bonuseskek f u fagg1t I fell for the bait
>>219461375Who is wee?And yes comunism will Always fail but not because of the doctrine.It fails because it doesn't understand human nature and the simple fact that all of us are egotistical moron's/ crabs in a bucket.
>>219460966Whether or not a movie is "funny" is a subjective concept. Whether or not a motor-vehicle has been properly fixed to the state of being functional and can pass something like a state inspection is an objective concept.Do you understand the difference between objective and subjective measures?Additionally, it's part of the understood social-contract that by going to see a movie you are paying money for the experience and are not entitled to a refund simply because you decide that you personally didn't "like" the movie enough; because how much you like something is not an objective measure, it's a subjective one. "Fraud" is only applicable if the party that was paid money fails to meet a pre-agreed upon measure that is OBJECTIVE, not a SUBJECTIVE one.Another example: You can pursue charges of Fraud if you paid a Painter to paint your living room for you, and they took the money but fail to paint your living room. You CANNOT pursue charges of Fraud if they completed the pre-agreed upon job and did indeed paint your living room, but you decided after the fact that you ultimately did not like the color you asked for after all. Likewise, just like you're paying a Painter to paint your living room, and not paying them to "make you happy about your living room", when you pay the admission fee to see a movie the pre-agreed upon deal is that you are paying to see the movie, not that your payment is dependant on you being "satisfied" with the subjective quality of the movie on your opinion.When you pay for the admission to a movie you take that risk of MAYBE not liking it in the end. That's why things like movie reviews are such a huge thing. They help people decide whether or not they want to bother with that risk. But that "risk" is inherent to movie going and other similar forms of paid for entertainment. If that risk is still too rich for your blood, you always have the option of simply NOT going to the movies.
>>219461410I didn't say anything about work. You can earn through other means than work. Earning is to qualify for receipt. Full stop. I understand you dislike being poor. That's for therapy, not here.
>>219460083Wasting vast sums of money should be considered immoral, on a societal scale decisions made like this have a tangible negative effect
>>219459477They do the same thing with consenting adults in sexual relationships. It’s almost like they’re authoritarians.
ITT white tankies and third world brownoids cry about being poor when they are just lazy
>>219461050So there's no problem then. Both parties knowingly consented to this exchange, and the vast majority of them at least are even subjectively happy with the result:The movie industry created a movie and asked for an admission price from people in order to see the movie in the theater. A portion of the movie-going public agreed to this offer, and got to see the movie in the theater. Those not interested in the offer simply did not take it and likely spent their money elsewhere at the place of their choice.Nowhere in this exchange was there any "exploitation", "fraud" or anything "immoral".Case closed.
>>219461488>1488We might have to hear this faggot out.
>>219461475Earning = working toward something.earningnoun That which is earned; wages gained by work or services; money earned; -- used commonly in the plural. verb Present participle of earn.
>>219461526You seem to think you're disagreeing with me.
>>219461456Do you understand the difference between objective and subjective measures?I do I can find you movies that have the descriptor comedy that don't have one attempt at humour in them.Hiding behind language is a scam.I can also find movie's that have staring... Actors and they have less then 2 minutes of screen time.You can find objective scams why are you defending these people?
>>219461180>stupid movie's is all they can afford so they have no choiceNo, there's a myriad of other things that they can spend their money on and that they can afford, even just for Entertainment, let alone in general.Additionally, they have the option of simply NOT spending their money on ANY form of Entertainment. Nobody is forcing them to spend their money on something. They also have the option of squirreling it away and saving it for something else. Perhaps if they did that more often, they wouldn't be "poor" in the first place?
>>219459104Finch lost his touch after Gone Girl, which is a shame. I love his works from the 90's.
>>219461554Appealing to a book someone wrote doesn't prove anything little guy. People who are given $20 million dollars are rightfully receiving it. Even it makes you sad for being poor. Humping a dictionary doesn't change that.
>>219461232The person who is voluntarily paying them $20,000,000 for their labor decided that they are, in ideed, doing $20,000,000 worth of work. That labor was worth $20,000,000 to them. That's why they agreed to the deal. Therefore, it WAS $20,000,000 worth of work.The party's mutually agreeing upon that deal are the ONLY people that get to determine that. Not some completely irrelevant and completely uninvolved povertyfag pushing carts part-time at the Kmart.
>>219461574A scam doesn't have to use force.Anyway pretend all you want and do whatever you think is best.Millions of years of labour will continue to feel this satanic endeavour.These things eat lifetime's from people.Waste resource extract wealth...
>>219461249And?... My point still stands.
>>219461262>there's a contractual agreement that both parties sign and agree toYes, and the same thing happened between Netflix and Brad Pitt and Tarantino and everyone else involved. They mutually agreed upon an amount to be exchanged and even signed a contract over it. Glad you're starting to get it now.
>>219461325You have a ten-year-old’s view of monetary compensation. Huge surprise that being most think like this it’s increasingly impossible to live a middle-income life. Almost like people are indeed not being compensated for the value they create but the value the people at the top wish to see. Really makes you think!
>>219461293>How about they make something worthwhile"Worthwhile" by what metric? The people voluntarily paying for their provided goods and services ALREADY think they're producing something "worthwhile". What is your opinion matter MORE than theirs? Why SHOULD it matter more than anyone elses'?>get paid like normal people without extracting so much money from poor peopleOffering a good or service at a price, and people; "rich", "poor" or anything in-between; is not "extracting" money from poor people, or from anyone else. That is literally just offering a good or a service and people voluntarily agreeing to the exchange. Nobody in that situation is being forced to do anything and nobody is being deceived into doing something they wouldn't otherwise do. It's a voluntary exchange, i.e. the very cornerstone of the entirety of "Trade", and arguably even the existence of the totality of human civilization.
>>219461371>nobody is actually happy with what they are paying but there are no other options (because they are poor).completely retarded nonsense. hanging out with friends is basically free except for maybe a bus ticket. paper and pencils are very cheap and then you can write or draw. buy a ball and go play in the park. if you can afford the cheapest laptop you have access to an infinity of free games, free videos etc.there has literally never been as abundant an access to cheap/free entertainment as right now. nobody is forced to pay for netflix. insane commie victimhood garbage
>>219461446>comunism will Always fail but not because of the doctrineNo, Anon, it's largely because of its doctrine.
>>219461560NTA but it’s a you problem if a comedy didnt make you laugh. Humor is subjective.
>>219461697No a ten year old's view is that only a hard day of breaking rocks in the sun is what entitles someone to money, everything else is "cheating." There aren't rules. Whatever gets you money gets you money. If two people make an agreement, you have no say in it. They're not doing anything to you or taking anything from you. You're just envious. Not getting paid enough? Negotiate better contracts.
>trantula not directing
>>219461338you're all confused about what the word "demand" refers to. netflix etc want brad pitt therefore there is demand for brad pitt. it doesn't matter if you think this is a bad strategy. they are free to do business in a way you think is stupid and the demand thus generated is no less real.also>Nobody, ever, in the history of the world, has thought “I need to subscribe to Netflix, they have Brad Pitt.”oh yes they did lmao. you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. have you ever talked to a woman in your life?
>>219461668Your point doesn’t make sense. There is no demand for Cliff. You’re presupposing there is demand because people are paying for a service in which a product exists. Netflix could release a movie on their platform that is just a steaming dog turd on pavement, do you think that someone paying $10 a month for their service means they want to see that?
>>219461845You tried to earlier tell another anon not to mention murder. Why is that? Is it perhaps because some agreements, however consensual, are harmful for society if extrapolated at large?
>>219459168>>219459226That money belongs in a museum!
>>219461488>Wasting vast sums of money should be considered immoral1. Who gets to decide whether or not they are "wasting" that money? At least at this current juncture in time before we have seen whether or not it pays off? They certainly don't think they are "wasting" that money. They certainly think they are making a good investment. And it's their money, so it's their opinion that matters as far as whether or not they are "wasting" that money. Why would YOUR opinion matter on that? It's not YOUR money.2. Why? How other people spend their money is not a "moral" issue. So long as it's their money, they can spend it on whatever they want. They can spend it on paying Brad Pitt and Quentin Tarantino to make a movie for them, they can spend it on a charitable effort to feed the homeless or something, or they can spend it on a solid gold toilet for all I care. Again, it's THEIR money. I.e. none of MY business, and none of your business either.What IS a "moral issue" is authoritarian busy bodies like you deciding that YOU get to stipulate how other people get to spend THEIR money.>on a societal scale decisions made like this have a tangible negative effectSuch as what? Note that "That money COULD have been spent on free food for niggers but wasn't!" and things like that are NOT examples of a "tangible negative effect"; that's a HYPOTHETICAL one and is equally true of any amount of money paid for anything that isn't free food for niggers.If anything, it's having a tangible positive effect, even if a gradual one Netflix is paying money to people in exchange for services. Those people, in turn, are presumably going to pay yet more other people for goods and services later. That will at least eventually translate at some point to money that ends up paying for somebody's rent, or putting food on some family's table.
>>219459252>Quentin Tarantino>Brad Pitt>David Finchersome of the biggest names in the history of entertainment, they earned that cheque
>>219459477Good luck paying subscription to the porkie.You will own nothing and be proud of it because, after all, he deserves property rights more than you, goy.
>>219461232If a man writes a script for a movie, and that movie goes on to generate hundreds of millions of dollars, as a studio, his scripts are easily $20,000,000 worth of work.
>>219461663>A scam doesn't have to use force No "scam" is occurring though. Again, see: >>219461456>Millions of years of labour will continue to feel this satanic endeavour.>These things eat lifetime's from people.>Waste resource extract wealth..Did you mean "FUELthis satanic endeavour", ESL? I can't even figure out what you necessarily were trying to communicate with the last line, it's so garbled...Please learn the language that this board uses to a decent level of fluency BEFORE you try to come in here and start arguments, let alone before you try and talk down to people hete and tell them that they are wrong.
>>219459890>They didn't take it from you. They didn't "take it" from anyoneYeah, it just suddenly appeared on their bank accounts.Next thing you say is that piracy is not based because the poor Weinstein-Schlomowitz can't afford to snort a coke off some starlets' tits.
>>219460083Retarded investments are immoral by design because they are an affront to any coherent brain thought and disrespectful to money.We need to bring back gallows for embezzlement and overspending.
>>219461232>These people do not do $20,000,000 worth of work.the value of work is not determined by you pulling numbers out of your ass, it's determined by what somebody's willing to pay for it. you can't demand 20 mil for the thing you do likely because you could be replaced in a spit second by countless other retards off the street. this is not true of those people.
>>219462132I DON'T pay for streaming subscriptions because the subscriptions aren't offering me anything I really want. I have the choice not to pay for them. EVERYONE has the choice not to pay for them.I also DO own things and DO have property rights. What are you talking about?The issue here seems to be that you think "rich people", however you define that, *don't* have property rights. Because you seem to feel entitled to decide how they get to spend THEIR money. It's not YOUR money, it's THEIRS.Just like your property is YOUR property, and not theirs, so THEY don't get to decide what YOU do with it.
>>219459104Everything that supports Pedowood is immoral by design.
>>219462195>Yeah, it just suddenly appeared on their bank accountsNo, retard, that didn't happen either.But no, they did not "take" it from anyone, as you claimed.What ACTUALLY happened was they offered a good or service, and people voluntarily gave them money in exchange for that good or service.I.e. a Volunatry Exhange. "Taking" implies force, like theft or coercion. Neither of those things happened. Nothing was done against anybody's will. All parties consented and had the option to not consent.
>>219459168No money was given to BLM.
>>219462249>Retarded investments are immoral by design because they are an affront to any coherent brain thought and disrespectful to money.Cool baseless opinion. Nobody really feels that way aside from you though, schizo. But you ARE welcome to just continue seething over their "immorality" all you want. Nobody's stopping you. Have at it.
>>219462047No, because it's a disingenuous moving of the goalposts beyond of the scope of the discussion, and I'm not quibbling with retards who think being Jewish about words = being intelligent.
>>219461990That is an idiotic argument. By your logic ANY transaction, however lopsided, constitutes demand. That is not the case at all lmao. And no, there are no hundreds of millions of dollars of new subscriptions that are joining the service for fucking Brad Pitt you retard. If you still think Hollywood is in the game for capitalistic competition you are the exact kind of retarded goy they love
>>219462271>I DON'T pay for streaming subscriptionsSubscription based model already is involved in way more than streaming services, you absolute retard.>Because you seem to feel entitled to decide how they get to spend THEIR money. It's not YOUR money, it's THEIRS.>Hurrr, I might die if a building collapses on me because crapshitalist decided to spend third of the budget on kickbacks instead of a proper building, but he just used HIS money how he sees fit.Go fuck yourself, nigger. You won't get paid for simping for degenerates with money, if you are too retarded to understand how, in the end, you pay for richfag's retarded choices, you are a lost cause.Enjoy having your car lock itself up because you didn't pay the fee this month. Enjoy not being able to fix shit yourself because it's protected by retarded copyright laws. Enjoy being replaced by Jamal or Pajeet because it's cheaper than paying your honkey ass.
>>219462132the guy that's richer than you does not have "more property rights," he has the same property rights, he just has more property. you thinking "being rich" is a right somebody's stealing from you is niggerbrained.
>ITT like five or six exceedingly patient Anons labor to explain extremely basic concepts like "supply & demand" and "free-will" to a 14-year-old low-IQ brown TankieLmao, it really is that "READ, NIGGA" Basic Economics Meme from The Boondocks.
>>219462365It perfectly encapsulates the failing of your argument though. You tried to state that any arrangement made between two consenting parties is by nature allowable. Now you are saying it is disingenuous to follow this to its logical conclusion. So there ARE limitations.
>>219462443Yeah, and the limitations are also the limitations to this conversation. Movie making falls within them. Cry about this if you must, but elsewhere.
>>219462315>Volunatry ExhangeFirst: Lack of informed consent doesn't make it voluntary.Second: Lobbying to protect interests of media magnates through draconian copyright laws (among other things) doesn't make it suddenly voluntary, you drooling retard.And C, you still won't be paid by Weinsteineites and won't be invited on the orgy on their private island, stop whiteknighting people that would toss you into the gutter for an extra penny, it's pathetic.You will never be rich, you will never be a woman, go to your cuckshed and jerk off on idea of Prahaj taking your job and shittying it up.If you don't have even a modicum of self-interest, just straight up kill yoursel.fYou are the reason everything is shit, because it's retards like you who enable it.
>>219462415>Subscription based model already is involved in way more than streaming services, you absolute retard.And? I don't pay for a "subscription" to anything. What now, faggot?And even if I did....who cares? I'd be doing it because I personally have decided that what is being offered by the subscription is worth, or worth more, than the demanded asking price for the subscription.Why does consensual, mutually agreed-upon exchange infuriate autismos like you so much?Is this literally just you having an autistic fit about simply NOT being in complete and total control of everyone and everything around you? Literal children learn to respect other people's free-will and autonomy before they even enter into Kindergarten, typically. Are you really so stunted that you still haven't even learned that as an adult?
>>219459104>OUATIH is a pure soul nostalgia trip>give it to the most sterile director aliveBravo Netflix.
>>219462367>By your logic ANY transaction, however lopsided, constitutes demand.no, demand constitutes demand. if a lot of people think chocolate is tasty, there is demand for chocolate. if a lot of studio execs think brad pitt is a safe bet, there is demand for brad pitt. it doesn't matter if you personally think you're smarter than them and would make better bets. the demand still objectively exists and brad pitt can cash in on it because why wouldn't he?>And no, there are no hundreds of millions of dollars of new subscriptions that are joining the service for fucking Brad Pitt you retard.notice how you quietly rewrote your claim from the original "nobody watches movies for actors ever" to "okay they do but it's not worth this much," which instead of obviously insane is just unverifiable. they know what is and isn't worth it, they're the ones keeping their own books.
>>219462426The basics of capitalism do not apply to society today. I’m a conservative, I believe in competition, I work in finance. You are a complete fucking goy slave if you believe our economy is dictated by these principles
>>219462464What are the limitations to your agreements? Murder’s out, how large does the risk to society at large have to be in order for that to be stopped as well? For example, director has a demand for a large explosion in their movie, they agree to one approximately equivalent to 500kt and are willing to pay. Is this allowed?
>>219462801okay, explain why it isn't and what principles it operates on instead
>>219462271You sound insufferable. I'm not even saying you're wrong but you are one annoying fuck.
>>219462751No you idiot, that does not constitute demand. Again, by your logic any transaction however lopsided points to market demand, even if it is a mssive fucking failure and loses the company millions, simply because they engaged in the transaction. Stop being a dumbass.
>>219459252it's a retarded way to use the word
>>219462858No. If you are too stupid to see how unbalanced the game is today you could not possibly understand even a rudimentary explanation of the financial system and how it is stacked against the common man. It’s far beyond my qualifications to give you what you need.
>>219459104>salaries are immoralI agree, hang everyone invovled starting with that twatter account.
>>219459104If i was asked to make direct to netflix slop I'd ask for alot of money too.
>>219462924you seem very confused about which "demand" and which "market" we're even talking about. the movie might make money or lose money but there is a job market for actors and on this job market brad pitt is obviously in demand. why wouldn't he be? he's one of the last handful of "movie stars" left and he's just had another blockbuster hit last summer with f1. but you think "brad pitt getting high profile offers from movie studios" does not constitute "brad pitt being in demand by movie studios"? what else could possibly constitute demand? i think you just argued yourself into a weird hole so now you have to pretend to be retarded like this.
>>219459484This. The seething commie can literally cancel their netflix sub at any time
>>219462968>umm sorry the dog ate my homeworklmao you are such an obvious delusional narcissist. what do you do in "finance," clean toilets?
>>219463399Because what you’re talking about is not what anyone, ever, anywhere, means when they say demand. You yourself didn’t even use it in such a way with your earlier analogies. You are arguing a tautology: By virtue of a transaction being placed, therefore there is demand. It’s idiotic.
>>219459252Fuck off you commie cuck
>>219463509I work with retarded financial investment advisors that don’t know what an RMD is and handle your money. Like many naive idiots you learned the ground rules and never thought that among the billions that do business someone would decide to game the system to enrich themselves, despite the history of the industry being a series of successive scams fucking people over and over again.
>>219459168Enjoy those bi-annual price increase.
>>219459104>these salaries are immoral>but giving money to black lives matter is amazing xoxoxi
>>219463531>is not what anyone, ever, anywhere, means when they say demandyou keep doing this lmao, you keep going "nobody EVER EVER EVER eats a sandwich with their mouth" and hope i'll be fooled somehow. yes, people would call someone who receives lots of high profile job offers as being "in demand." people say that every day. what else would "being in demand" even mean in the context of a job market? you're nuts.
>>219460530>I’ll try appealing to 4chan jew hating, that way I’ll blend in for sure!This has never worked, you have never blended in, will never blend in, and will never be a woman.
>>219463848No. No one says someone is in demand just because they receive money. I’m not “in demand” just because someone pays me to do something. For fuck sake I could pay myself using my own company, it doesn’t mean anything other than that a transaction took place. You are a complete idiot, there is absolutely no helping you.
>>219463976No, he’s right. Most of this industry is just rich jews laundering money today. Congratulations, you are one of the few blind people left refusing to acknowledge reality.
How can they justify raising prices when they fucking throw around $80 million just like that on 3 people?
>>219464021>he(You) don’t blend in.
>>219464029Look at this thread and see how many posters went right to their knees repeating the same basic principles of econ they learned in high school. People just do not give a fuck anymore, they think basic rules are some kind of karmic axiom that will balance things out in the end.
>>219463981>there is absolutely no helping you.Translation: I failed to manipulate you with my reddit tier faggot talking points and that’s you’re fault and not mine
>>2194640651. I’ve been stuck on this shithole longer than you have been living2. Acknowledgment of jews gaming the system is popular. (You) are now in the minority, faggot frogposter.
>>219459584I feel like being locked in Netflix isnt that bad. Seems like they have more freedom to make whatever bullshit they want
>>219464124Sorry bro I couldn’t hear you over the sound of my incredible demand, I just paid myself $500
>>219459252people in the world are suffering either1. they are victims of an oppressive regime/government (which sometimes they even vote for2. they're low IQ if every capitalist country disappeared into thin air living in the congo or north korea would still be an absolute nightmare.
>>219459104I'm excited to see how the story will be adapted for the Modern Audience
>>219463981>For fuck sake I could pay myself using my own company, it doesn’t mean anythingthat's not what brad pitt is doing. brad pitt is being paid by other people in exchange for his services. their willingness to pay for those services is what we call "demand." that's the normal definition of demand found in textbooks etc here on earth. please feel free to share the definition of "being in demand" that is in use on your planet.
>>21945916880 million dollars.That's 12 million onlyfans subscription women in need wont get.
>>219464134>I’ve b-been here for a long time!No you haven’t > Acknowledgment of jews gaming the system is popularIt’s not “popular,” it’s true. Your perception of it as “popular” instead of a fact is a good example of why you faggots repeatedly fail to blend, even when you appeal to 4chan tendencies.
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>>219464225That’s irrelevant, the transaction is not itself evidence of demand. If it were then the transaction coming from my own company would nevertheless evidence demand. That is not a textbook definition of the word in any reality
>>219464311>me getting btfo is irrelevant
>>219464254My using the word “popular” doesn’t imply I don’t think it’s true. That’s already implied by my prior posts. That’s why I said it was true you colossal retard. Your stupidity is possibly infectious frogposter, please stop replying to me.
>>219464371In your world I’m BTFO, in reality you are retarded and imagine that the nature of a monetary transaction, however fohardy and destined for loss, constitutes demand. You are wrong.
>>219464385>That’s why I said it was trueYou didn’t say it was true, because you don’t actually hate jews like a real anon, that would be heckin racist. You said it was “popular” because you think 4chan hates jews as some popular fad, and not because they’re disgusting rats that destroy everything they touch.
>>219464428>SAAR! YOU ARE WRONG SAAR! BASTERD BITCH!
>>219464311>the transaction is not itself evidence of demand. If it were then the transaction coming from my own company would nevertheless evidence demandlmao at the abuse of logic. "if brad pitt robbed a bank and pretended he got the money from netflix it then it wouldn't be evidence of being in demand." but he did not do that, he got it from netflix for being in a movie, so it is evidence of being in demand. and no, "but netflix could lose money on this in the long term" does not change him being in demand either.
>>219464428>however fohardy and destined for loss, constitutes demandthe definition of demand does not require the object of demand being a source of profit if the long term. ram is in demand right now because of ai, if all those ai companies go bankrupt next year ram would still have been in demand right now. future loss doesn't magically make present demand "not count"
>>219459168It’s immoral to charge more than a reasonable amount for something
>>219464531I said it was popular to illustrate your ideals are dying retard. You are now hassling me for using a word you don’t like. Now THAT is some jewish behavior lol
>>219464681A transaction occurring is not evidence itself of demand. You do not know what you are talking about lol
>>219464793Demand does not exist just because somebody paid for something. That is not how it works, you are retarded.
lots of hollywood bootlickers itt
are people actually bickering about ecenomic principles on a mongolian basket weaving forum or is it just astroturfed bots shilling their ideologies?please reply to this post with proof that you are human
>>219465301I would respond but I can't pass the captcha.
>>219465086>>219465119a random transaction wouldn't be evidence, yes. but this transaction, whose context we know, is. that's why you have to invent dumbass hypotheticals like "what if i sent money to myself" to avoid admitting you're wrong. if you sent money to yourself that wouldn't make you an in-demand actor. if movie studios kept sending you money to be in their movies that would make you an in-demand actor because that's the substance of being an in-demand actor. i can't make this any clearer.
>>219459104omg those salaries are so immoral lets tax the middle class more to revenge against the capitalists!
I wish they were made to do it for free
>>219465655Ranjeet...
>>219466205That's reserved for the janitors
>>219459104Noooo you cant let straight white men have money!!!
>>219459104I agree. I always wonder how old movies that are marvels of special effects could be made for next to nothing but look better than anything made today (2001 A Space Odyssey - 50mil in todays money, Star Wars - 60mil in todays money, 500mil for all 3 LOTR movies combined) while nothing burger movies like Once Upon A Time In Hollywood cost almost 100mil for a couple 1960s costumes and sets, or Amazon/Disney productions that cost 500+ million for no reason, then you realize its because everyone on the production is getting 10+ million dollars and the movie itself is actually being made for nothing. It didnt used to be like this
