Remember when they got sick of keeping the extras around so they just killed them with random arrows?

>>219705227
I’m guessing you never got anywhere past the pilot? Obviously no one would have survived a normal plane crash. It’s a good thing it wasn’t a normal plane crash

>>219705227
Please watch the whole show, before you bless us with your verbal diarrhea.

>>219705260
The amount of characters that randomly die in this show is huge. Ilana's death in season 6 was hilarious

>>219705348
>>219705374
>it was a magical plane crash because of jacob

>>219705429
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/@LOSTEXPLAINED108

spoilers for anyone who watched the show.

>>219705429
Yep
Sayid literally says in the first season it's ridiculous that all these people survived with superficial injuries

>>219705450
These people who put way more thought into the mythology than Darlton ever did are funny.

unfortunately they didn't have an expert on crashing planes without survivors on board

>>219705450
Crazy no-life schizo who uses text-to-speech voice for narration. This show's plot is a half-baked unstatisfying piece of shit but with some compelling characters(not Kate)

>>219705398
>we have big plans for abby
>kill her because of a drunk driving incident

Why did Walt appear to Locke and tell him the button was evil? (can't be MIB because Walt was still alive)

>>219705227
It’s kinda the whole fucking point something weird is going on, dummy. One of them literally wasn’t able to walk, in fact I think he had to use a wheelchair before the crash and then magically had full functioning legs at the island

>>219705507
Most episodes were just anime slop filler in order to stall time for questions to our answers.

>>219705348
>it wasn’t a normal place crash

I’m specifically just referencing the pilot episode, which to the viewer is a normal plane crash because the rest of the show doesn’t exist to the public yet. It is absolutely ridiculous that they tried to sell this show as being somewhat realistic when you start with this. There are many plane crashes depicted in TV/Film that are actually believable. Castaway, World War Z, Passenger 57, etc.

This is literally just a bunch of perfectly placed chunks of a plane mixed with 50 extras being shown with a dolly shot. It’s awful.

>>219705534
Almost like that scene occurred before the writers had made up the whole MIB and his rules

>all series long the whispers are associated with the others
>ben straight up tells rousseau "if you hear whispers run" obviously because it means the others are near
>last season turns out it was just random ghosts
They fumbled every curious and interesting thing about this show and made it underwhelming. Smoke monster's nature and origin is still the biggest disappointment.

>>219705572
It's really really cool tho

>>219705584
I remember how lame the whispers reveal is too, Hurley just goes "oh yeah lol I think I get it now" and has a little chat with Michael about how it sucks he's dead

>>219705584
Rousseau said it's a security system. It was never followed up on and it's easy for the plot defenders to dismiss it as her being unreliable. They don't understand this is exactly what made Lost so unbearable and unsatisfying sometimes
>everyone's being vague
>people often give conflicting descriptions
>conveniently the very last reveal is definitely the true one
>why? because it just is

>>219705572
Nobody had a problem with it, stop being stupid

>>219705227
Skill issue. When I rewatched the first episode last year I was hooked again and binged the whole show. It was much better this way cause I didn't have to wait a week for an episode, so I actually remembered what had happened in the previous one.

>>219705656
>so I actually remembered what had happened in the previous one.
Which also made it easier to spot the plot holes and inconsistencies, at least for me.

>>219705578
It's the most egregious with Jack's dad appearing on the boat and helping Michael save everyone. Why would MIB help them out like that? It was the perfect opportunity for him to get rid of some candidates since he couldn't kill them himself, why save their fucking lives? Because the writers made it up as they go along of course.

>>219705645
Yeah I think people forget an important part of the story is people trying to figure out what exactly is going on, and bad interpretations are all a part of it. Ben, Jacob, even I think the MIB weren't fully on top of all the weird stuff going on, even if they had their theories.
Still doesn't excuse a lot of the poor explanations for things and a lot of stuff that was basically ignored or retconned.

>>219705698
I can't really remember the MIB helping Michael on the boat, but I think the narrative with the MIB was that he was player super high IQ 4D chess and was gaming everyone and everything just for his elaborate plot to get an angry Ben in front of Jacob to stab him to death.
Fucking ridiculous idea, granted, especially because it seems the MIB was stitching together events for like years to make this happen, but I think that's the idea? And maybe with whatever he did on the boat (again, can't really remember) it furthered that goal?

>>219705719
The Others being demystified from season 3 onwards was hard to swallow at first but somehow tolerable, probably only due to good performances from the cast. But the way Jacob was being built up he was far from compelling when he was eventually revealed, and of course the same for the smoke monster.
Also it was never revealed who was the second person Hurley saw in the cabin lol

>>219705584
>>219705645
>>219705698
>>219705719
Honestly it's why a lot of my friends dropped out of watching it as well, with the view being "this is gonna be another X-Files, right" where the ol Chris Carter Effect was in well, full effect. The reimagined Battlestar Galactica had the same problem. What was the Cylon's plan again? Good question, because even RDM didn't know!

>>219705826
>the ol Chris Carter Effect was in well, full effect
The Monument Mythos suffered from this too ;_;

>>219705782
I kind of liked the Others being a bit clueless, because by that point in the story you should really start to see the island just has weird supernatural, almost magical/ religious stuff going on and it's not all gonna be explicitly explained, especially when you've got issues of faith going on.
Kind of agree with Jacob and the smoke monster though, there's too much inexplicable stuff there like the whole thing with the names and him picking certain people as candidates, like how the fuck did that all work.
>Also it was never revealed who was the second person Hurley saw in the cabin lol
Oh yeah lol, there is clearly so much deliberation on what exactly the MIB and Jacon are or aren't in the show at that point, there was no way to describe this by the end of the show.
For me the most annoying, gaping plothole is maybe how big of a deal is made in S1 about Claire's baby and how that psychic is forcing her to raise it herself, which is a narrative that goes completely nowhere, and it seems they try to retcon it through someone else's flashback in meeting the psychic and suggesting he's just a fraud (but why the fuck would he make all that stuff up and buy Claire and air ticket, it is just the laziest explanation ever).

>>219705934
>I kind of liked the Others being a bit clueless, because by that point in the story you should really start to see the island just has weird supernatural, almost magical/ religious stuff going on and it's not all gonna be explicitly explained, especially when you've got issues of faith going on.
I respect that and as I said I tolerated the Others' development, but I still think the show peaked in season 2.
>retcon it through someone else's flashback in meeting the psychic and suggesting he's just a fraud (but why the fuck would he make all that stuff up and buy Claire and air ticket, it is just the laziest explanation ever).
I think the implication was he was a fraud but had a genuine psychic experience with Claire. It was a cool moment to show how it was their destiny to end up on the island, but that's pretty much the only interesting part about it. The rest of the baby plot revolved around Ben's obsession with the island's fertility problems which didn't go anywhere satisfying.

>>219706043
>but I still think the show peaked in season 2.
I think S2 has some of the absolute worst episodes in the series (like when Charlie tries to drown Claire's baby and Locke beats him up) but maybe you're right, the overall dread from the Others is pretty good. The finale is GOATed too
With the Claire stuff, what annoys me is mainly how the psychic is so so insistent that Claire has to be the one to raise the baby, or else something horribly bad is going to happen. It makes zero sense in hindsight, especially since we saw Kate taking really good care of Aaron and nothing bad happening there.
I don't even know how any of it is meant to relate back to the fertility problems on the island. I kind of think the writers just got bored of Claire as a character (which is fair) and didn't have any idea where to go with this.

>>219706148
>I think S2 has some of the absolute worst episodes in the series (like when Charlie tries to drown Claire's baby and Locke beats him up) but maybe you're right, the overall dread from the Others is pretty good. The finale is GOATed too
It's the hatch plot for me. The hatch is the only well done and satisfying mystery in the show.

>>219706214
>20 weeks and 6 months of theorising who or what is in the hatch
>turns out be a half mad scotsman who ends up being the best character on the show

>>219706214
Yeah very true, I think that's why I mentioned the finale, because it's the culmination of all of that.
Have to say though, I've rewatched Lost quite a few times and Ben's whole mindgame bullshit when he's in the hatch and the way Jack and Locke turn into simple bickering retards around him really annoys me.

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>started a thread to talk about the pilot episode
>infinite amount of tards sperging about their favorite bad show

I should have known this would be the fate of this thread

>>219706382
You're in luck, usually LOST threads have that one anon who keeps insisting that it was perfect because the characters matter more than the plot. I'm surprised he didn't show up yet

>>219706214
>”it’s the _____ for me”
>”GOATED”

Shut the fuck up you zoomer scum. Talk like a normal person. You were 1 when this show was on tv gtfo

>>219706422
Are you okay anon? I'm not even the one wrote "goated"

>>219706382
Because it's a fucking boring point to make
>reeee everything is so unbelieveable
Yeah, it is

>>219706453
>>219706148

I’m talking to both of you faggots. Piss off zoomers.

>>219706478
Who hurt you?

>>219706459
How is it a boring point to make? Other anons in this thread are claiming that no one even noticed or cared, which is true. That’s why I’m finally pointing it out and making a thread about it because no one ever brings it up. No one talks about how unrealistic the crash is compared to most other plane crashes in any media that tries to remain realistic. It’s a ridiculous start to a TV show. This pilot episode looks likes something you’d see in a terrible shark movie or some B movie.

>>219706518
>no one ever brings it up
the show itself literally brings it up, I mentioned it here >>219705491
>No one talks about how unrealistic the crash is compared to most other plane crashes in any media that tries to remain realistic
>that tries to remain realistic
that's the thing anon, the show isn't trying that hard to be realistic. You get to see the mysterious smoke monster knocking down trees in the first episode.
There's also a wiki page describing all the ridiculous head knocks that happen in the series, with only like two or three of them leading to lasting issues https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Head_injuries
Not every piece of media needs to be super realistic, Lost is very up front about being somewhat make-believe.
>This pilot episode looks likes something you’d see in a terrible shark movie or some B movie.
Yeah which is why it's based

Most people recognized it was impossible for that many survivors to be walking around. Hence why most people immediately thought “died in the crash.” Also 9/11 was still fresh in people’s minds, where two of the four highjacked planes were crashed in a field and in the pentagon and there wasn’t anything left but scattered debris.

>>219706588
You’re dense as a fucking brick. Why are you bringing up shit from later in the show? We’re talking about the pilot episode. You have to look at the pilot as its own thing because when a pilot airs, that’s it. Nothing else to reference from. It doesn’t matter if it was “brought up” later in the series or makes sense down the line. It doesn’t get brought up when I’m watching the fucking pilot episode.

Enjoy your faggoty slop no explanation cringe fantasy extremely unbased TV show, anon.

>>219706642
He literally brought up stuff from the pilot episode lol

>>219706642
...which is why I brought up the fantasy smoke monster with mechanical noises bringing down trees in the exact same pilot we're describing

>>219705227
And Found

>>219706703
In Translation

>>219705506
Yes, they brought Boone when they meant to bring BANE? ... amateurs ...

>be op
>load up first episode of lost
>watch five minutes
>pause
>huff and puff about how this is so unbelievable

bro we couldn’t pause back in the day. calling you retarded for doing this isn’t defending the show. It’s calling (you) a retard.

>>219706756
YOU ALL EVERYBODY.

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>>219705227
>>219705429
Suspend your disbelief or I will end you.

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>>219706741
>perhaps he's wondering why you'd kill a man, before throwing him into a tunnel of golden light

>>219706666
>>219706680

Stop samefagging you fucking chud. You literally had a wiki page in your response about non pilot related things and used phrases like “in the series” and you’ve probably been in this thread saying more dumb shit like “well, in the series you see-“

Just tell your faggot friends your thoughts and get them out of this thread

>>219706799
Hey anon, this scene is from the pilot episode which you supposedly watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6oIGF9QL08

>>219706756
>back in the day

You could most certainly pause a TV show in 2004, anon.

>>219706799
I spoke about both the pilot and now you're the one obsessing over everything non-pilot related I brought up lmao
Sorry I didn't follow your hyper specific rules of engagement when talking about Lost, I should have been able to read your mind. It must be difficult having autism, I sympathise.

>>219706820
I can't believe they took something so cool and turned it into some boring guy in dark clothes

>>219706849
Yeah that's honestly one of the best smoke monster scenes, the sounds are the best. So much wasted potential.
There's such an obvious non-natural and industrial quality to it, the fact that it spawned into being because a dead guy was thrown into a tunnel of light makes zero sense.

>>219706836
You’re the autistic one for defending a show as bad this one in 2026. Unbelievable how people like you exist. This is a one and done show you watch when it airs and then never revisit. I can’t believe this is what the fanbase for the show is like today. You are all pathetic.

>>219705227
Heheh "pilot" episode

OP suffering terminal autism, sad!

>>219706884
I'm not even a big fan nor am I really defending it, I actually think it's a pretty bad show overall, I'm just pointing out from the get go it was never trying to be realistic, it's a very boring and minor point so get so upset over.
If you contain any degree of self-observation you might want to ask why you're seething so hard over this show (oh sorry I mean the PILOT, because we aren't allowed to talk about the greater show ofc) right now

>>219706382
>start a thread about the Lost pilot at me
>I didn't even watch the show
Great plan, jackass

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>>219706940
>heh jokes on you I actually DONT like the show
>*spam posts every detail about the show to go against OP’s point*

Okay buddy

>>219706829
only faggots had tivo

>>219707033
anon. you made a weak argument based upon watching like ten minutes of the first episode of the, the first episode acknowledging how miraculous it was they survived the crash. Also, reminder, the first two episodes aired at once.

>>219707033
Am I allowed to talk about the show and not just the pilot now? Do I have permission?
If so: I definitely like parts of the show but overall it fails more than it succeeds.
>*spam posts every detail about the show to go against OP’s point*
Yeah I'm saying OP's argument is retarded. The show is flawed but not for the stupid bullshit reason that this many people surviving a plane crash of this magnitude is unrealistic.

Hello. Can someone explain how that chink guy, the one who set up the original stations and camps found the island?

>>219707116
They had that device set up in the real world that was in the basement of a church. It kind of looked like a giant pendulum/ navigation tool and was supposed to be tracking signs of electromagnetism or something.

>>219707074
>>219707092

Again, clear samefagging. You’ve probably never been in a plane anon. You’ve probably never even left your home country. If you have ever been on a plane you know that this wouldn’t happen. The literal first 5 minutes of this pilot is some of the worst bullshit I’ve ever seen and I will stand on that and I don’t care how retarded you call me or think I am. It’s not convincing. I don’t care if it’s explained later in the show. It’s fucking awful.

>>219705227
Out of all the things you could have complained about you chose the least important thing.

>>219707186
Kek I realise the times make it look like samefagging but I'd be putting more effort in if I were, I assure you
>You’ve probably never been in a plane anon. You’ve probably never even left your home country. If you have ever been on a plane you know that this wouldn’t happen.
Pure, unfiltered autism. I've already said a bunch of times already that the show (sorry, the PILOT) is not trying to be realistic and not every single piece of media needs to follow strict real life rules on what is and isn't possible. You strike me as a very boring person for believing that should be the case.

>>219705227
Have sex.

Poor OP definitely expected his thread to be full of anons shitting on the plane crash using terms like "slop" and "AI-generated", instead his arguments were actually addressed and he got upset

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>>219707186
anon. the two episode pilot is why most people (correctly) think they died in the crash and the island was purgatory.

>>219707289
>(correctly)
anon...

>>219707289
>most people (correctly) think they died in the crash and the island was purgatory.
This is wrong btw. Most people concluded that because the finale credits showed a deserted island with plane debris scattered with no one being around. Those images were put there for aesthetic reasons but many viewers concluded that this is what "really happened" and they all died in the crash. The writers cleared it up since but many people still cling to that fanfiction.

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Two things about Lost that are very relevant here:
One: the creators have admitted on video that they just made it up as they went along.
Two: many of the people who you're likely to encounter here are the hardcore batshit insane people who stuck with it and will defend it at all costs just because of the sunk cost fallacy and that they are retards.

The more sane you are the more likely you stopped watching Lost at some point because it got too stupid. Now I'm a little bit insane myself because I watched it till the end.

>>219707332
>Most people concluded that because the finale credits showed a deserted island with plane debris scattered with no one being around.
I didn't know that. It was always pretty obvious to me that they showed that footage as a callback to the origins of the show, and because it was pretty cool too.

>>219705698
Also the freighter was technically outside of the island's influence at that point.

>>219707350
Most people here shit on the show even harder than OP, he just chose a retarded point

>>219707350
>Two: many of the people who you're likely to encounter here are the hardcore batshit insane people who stuck with it and will defend it at all costs just because of the sunk cost fallacy and that they are retards.
lmao no, most people on /tv/ will rightfully shit on just how incoherent the whole thing ended up being, and how much wasted potential the series is in general

>>219707332
It was more how the first and last scenes (jack waking up on the island, jack dying on the island) were seconds apart. It didn't help how much of the first season acknowledged how impossible it was they "survived" and then suddenly there's ghosts and a "security system" (read: cerberus) running around.

its literally all over the show.

>>219707247
I have been on numerous flights. I have been to Spain, Denmark, Mexico, Japan, etc. I have traveled the globe and I have had multiple times where some serious turbulence happens or there’s a storm and people on the plane lose their fucking minds and don’t even begin to think about what they would do if the plane crashed. I doubt anyone who has ever actually traveled found it believable. If I was on that plane I mosh certainly would have died. I can’t believe that people decided to actually shoot that scene and go through with it. Surely most of the people working on that set have never been on a plane.

>>219707350
>many of the people who you're likely to encounter here are the hardcore batshit insane people who stuck with it and will defend it at all costs

That's like one guy and/or damon lindelof.

>>219707379
Awesome dude
You clearly have autism as well, or at least a complete inability to actually converse with people. Might wanna do something about that.

>>219707378
I guess the writers have just decided to lie by clarifying that your theory is wrong?

>>219707406
I’m talking about a plane crash, you’re talking about television. You clearly don’t know what I’ve been trying to get at this whole time.

>>219707409
They lied the whole time the show was running. Why not also lie about something they tried to foreshadow and dumped because everyone figured it out. then went straight the fuck back to in the last episode, then deleted their social media accounts after claiming it was about the characters all along.

>>219707378
They literally go back to the real world, how do you explain that?
The island is something very similar to purgatory in that it's on the boundaries between life and death, and in fact it even turns out it is basically holding back the tide of non-existence and death from the real world, but the characters are absolutely not in purgatory throughout the show.

>>219707431
So yeah, even though the writers have clarified well after the show ended that your theory is wrong you still cling to it. Very impressive anon

>>219707421
We were talking about the pilot episode of the TV show Lost until you started trying to impress me with your knowledge of airplanes and wow me with details of a few international trips you've taken (as if that's a novelty in the modern age).
Not just autistic but you also possess some strange childlike sense of swagger. Very interesting.

>>219707350
I gave up on it while it was airing, but I rewatched it all a couple of years ago and was pleasantly surprised.
Show is much better when you are waiting weeks/months on dumb cliffhangers and expecting full sensible and satisfying conclusions to every little mystery box.
The journey and the characters (most of them) are very good and the island itself is a great setting.

>>219707445
>they couldn't have died in the crash because... the afterlife isn't "the real world"

amazing.

>>219707431
>They lied the whole time the show was running
They never lied, they just never had a real plan and were making shit up as it went along.
What could they possibly get out of lying about their intentions after the fact? You could at least argue something like the island was always meant to be purgatory and they just changed it in the last season (though that's still bullshit).

>>219707451
The foreshadowing is clearly there. The ending firmly establishes it. The writers were full of shit the entire run of the series. Why are they suddenly not, now that its over?

>>219707520
>They never lied, they just never had a real plan
So saying they had a real plan, when they didn't, isn't lying.

>>219707494
wut
The real world obvious refers to the greater world they came from
The island is a fantasy land that moves around and skips through time but it isn't purgatory

>>219707523
>the ending firmly established it
In your headcanon that Jack closing his eyes means that only a few seconds have passed rather than the sensible conclusion that it was a symbolic way of ending the series with the same shot that opened it.

>>219707376
No. And you didn't even understand what I said.
The people who are the most hardcore about something on the internet are the ones you're likely to encounter. It's not an accurate representation of what people actually thought of it.

And by the way. This is the lowest IQ board on 4chan. God damn it's fucking stupid.
Last thread I made could have been great but the few comments it got was something like "futa fucking twink"
God damn that is some brain-dead shit.

>>219707537
>So saying they had a real plan
Did they really say this tho

>>219707558
Are you the autismo OP?
Do you think there might be a common thread as to why people are seeming to have trouble understanding you?

>>219707547
anon they worked very hard to establish he was in the exact same spot, seconds after the first scene of the show.

>>219707539
>wut
Your argument is they couldn't have died in the crash, and the island can't be purgatory... because they go back to the "real world." This would mean you think purgatory and the afterlife aren't "real."

>>219707610
>anon they worked very hard to establish he was in the exact same spot
As I said, symbolically ending the series with the same shot
>seconds after the first scene of the show.
In your head.

>>219707566
at every comicon panel, yes. Except the last. That's when they said "it was about the characters!" and then fled.

>>219707636
>This would mean you think purgatory and the afterlife aren't "real."
No I explicitly explained it for you in my response, the island is a fantasy world but it isn't purgatory

>>219707537
>>219707520
>>219707566
This made me remember that I actually followed some kind of podcast at the time it aired with the makers of it and yes 100 percent they lied about it. They were asked the same questions back then.

>>219707668
>the island can't be purgatory because purgatory isn't real

this is what you keep repeating.

>>219707653
>>219707670
Ehh I think people are too harsh on the showrunners for this.
I think they had an outline for a long time, it's just that parts of that weren't fully developed and then chopped and changed or outright deleted over time, and a lot was done poorly.
The final season is executed really lazily as well, I don't know if they were strapped for time or got less episodes than they wanted as well.
It's a bit harsh to call that "lying".

>>219707539
>>219707668
fwiw the supernatural effects aren't restricted to the island. For example Michael trying to kill homself but the gun wouldn't go off because "the island" won't let him do it.

>>219707712
Do you think when Harry Potter goes to Hogwarts that that's purgatory as well? Or in Narnia when they go through the wardrobe for the first time that that's purgatory?
Not every supernatural world has to be purgatory anon.

I really liked the time travel dharma season.

>>219707745
Please tell me the exact functional difference, that exists only in your mind, between the island being purgatory or just a "fantasy world."

>>219707721
i liked the "using the forbidden numbers to play the lottery means meteors will strike your restaurant" thing.

>>219707716
See, the thing is, they could have had a general outline for the plot as a whole and then written actual scripts for the episodes as they went along.
They DIDN'T HAVE ANY OUTLINE. They had no fucking idea what they were doing.
Making up mysteries without any plan is insane, but that's exactly what they were doing. And they did lie about it as well.

>>219707716
Hi lindelof. late night or early morning?

>>219707587
No, I'm not OP. And OP is totally understandable you illiterate faggot.

>>219707789
The island is basically a kind of magical place with a whole bunch of supernatural phenomena, the big one being that it held an embodiment of death (MIB) back from escaping into the greater/ real world. This is very explicitly explained by Jacob with that scene with the wine and the cork, and how the island is like the cork keeping the wife from getting out. If (and when) the MIB escapes it will basically be akin to something like armageddon and the end of the entire world, which is why as the beginning of the flash sideways (which is the REAL purgatory we see in the show) we see the island has sank to the bottom of the sea, because the afterlife lies at the end of existence, after the MIB has escaped.
Actually this explanation makes me wonder another thing, if you think they were in purgatory the entire time then how the fuck do you explain the whole flash sideways thing? Do you think they entered a second level of purgatory while already being in purgatory?
It literally makes no sense to say they were dead from the beginning when you had an entire alternate reality set up for them to be dead in, and Kate is very explicit in explaining to Jack there that they're in the afterlife.

>>219705227
I can't wait until I forget more of it so I can re-watch again.

>>219707908
remember how ben describes how the island can do pretty much anything? the explanation for "flash sideways" is "hurley, new jacob (read: a wizard) did it."

You're also making the mistake of treating anything that happened in lost as "real" in any sense. It was just shit they made up as they went.

>>219706784
hahaha

>>219705227
Honestly I give the whole show a pass because the episode "The Constant" was so good.
>PENNEH

>>219707558
Your post was already proven wrong since everyone here shit on this show despite your assumption that they'll defend it.

>LOST
>Object/Place/Thing: Exists
>Writers: prefix it with "The"
>Skitzos watching: "The Rubbish, is it Dharma related? What does it mean? How is The Rubbish related to The Toilet? Why is The Rubbish there? Is it part of time travel? How will The Locke respond?

>>219708020
don't you understand? if you disagree with him and present arguments he can't defeat, you're defending the show.

I tried to get into this show but it was slow, meandering, and vague. It doesn't hit on the fantasy of being stranded on an island because the group is too big. It doesn't hit on the fantasy of unraveling a supernatural mystery because the clues are too few and far between. It doesn't hit on the fantasy of a group of characters getting whittled down like a slasher flick or battle royale either. What's the appeal?

>>219707969
>remember how ben describes how the island can do pretty much anything?
You mean the thing with a box? They literally have a scene later on with Ben stressing it's a metaphor and to not take it so literally lol
>the explanation for "flash sideways" is "hurley, new jacob (read: a wizard) did it."
What? What kind of explanation is this.
Hurley did what exactly? He created a second layer of purgatory with his new wizard powers that he gained in purgatory because he had to round up all the people who died in the first purgatory together in the second purgatory? It makes no sense
>You're also making the mistake of treating anything that happened in lost as "real" in any sense. It was just shit they made up as they went.
I agree they generally made it all up as they went along, but what I'm describing is the theory they decided on at the end of the show to tie it all up. All of the flash sideways, Jacob stuff, the wine bottle description and MIB all happens in the final season.
I said it earlier, if you want to argue they planned early on for the show to be about purgatory and only changed it in the last season and retrofitted a new explanation for everything then you can, and I would humour it, but to suggest it was purgatory all along when that makes no sense, when they clearly set out a different explanation for the island which I just explained, and when the writers continue to deny it was every purgatory it's a pretty stupid argument. It's only every been Youtuber retards who persist with the purgatory narrative.

>>219708064
Brilliant really, if you have autism you can never lose.

>>219708100
>What? What kind of explanation is this.
The type the writers just pulled out of their ass. How did they come back from purgatory? the writers just wrote that they did. How did a submarine get to purgatory, the writers just wrote that it did.

There is no actual explanation for anything that happened in lost beyond "this is just what we, the writers, pull from our collective asses this day."

>>219708159
I just gave you the full explanation of what was going on that they spelled out in season six, and it absolutely isn't "they were dead the whole time".
Maybe it was just their explanation on the day but it is what they ended up on.

>>219708196
Christian talking to the camera, saying everything mattered and was real, does not precluded "died in the crash" or "the island was purgatory." The only way it does, is if you retreat to your core argument, that the island can't be purgatory (a place of judgement) because that isn't "real."

>>219708234
You keep repeating the most ridiculous arguments and I'm tired of repeating my response.
Yes the island is a kind of fantasy land, and yes it is basically occupies a kind of space between life and death, but no that doesn't make it purgatory.
Just because the island is a separate place of existence that can jump through time and space that does not in any way mean it 100% has to be purgatory, it makes no sense.
>Christian talking to the camera, saying everything mattered and was real, does not precluded "died in the crash" or "the island was purgatory."
I don't actually know what you're trying to say here.

>>219708296
>ridiculous arguments
>the island can't be purgatory because they left it

and, anon, the show itself is ridiculous nonsense.

Thread full of retards. The show was great.

>>219707394
looks like he woke up.

>>219705227
it's one of the best episodes in the history of television, actually.

>>219705227
omg it was so transphobic am i right fellow redditor? Im so glad i growed up

>>219705429
Jacob gave them basically immortality where they couldn't die unless they killed each other. An accidentle plane crash caused by Desmond wasnt going to do that.

>>219705227
The fact thats what your upset about shows that since Lost aired you have done nothing with your life. You're still a fat jobless loser with no girlfriend. If you had those things, youd enjoy watching a show again.

>>219706998
I always find it funny when someone posts one of these FROM webms in Pluribus threads.

>>219708360
One thing a good show does is being self-consistent. Even if it's not realistic. Or especially then. That was what was so good about Death Note. It lays out the rules of the world at the beginning, then explores them in a smart way. Imagine of Lost was like Death Note. That would have being fucking sick.

>>219709291
>lost
>self-consistent