https://youtu.be/yedJOylFOtg?si=VHh42t4H4r9-aokCFinally some kino GITS hitting the streets after the trash fire that was Arise (and SAC 2045)
Really don't like the art style which is the main deciding factor of me watching anime.I know it is supposed to be more faithful to the manga but I prefer the GitS 95 art style and subsequent iterations of that.
>>220432563it looks pretty good for something coming out today, surprised it wasn't AI and jeet drawn desu
>>220432297I don't mind a change in art style. SAC was very different from the first 2 movies and was generally well liked because it did whatever it did well. Arise just looked like absolute garbage and tried to keep a serious tone while not having the smarts to back it up.I like what I'm seeing with this one so far, because it obviously went a lot more cartoony (and like the manga's art style), but seems to embrace it by being a bit more light hearted in tone. We'll have to see when it comes out, but seeing a new GITS run that doesn't try to copy or one-up the previous ones in what they already did right is encouraging.
>>220432297The aesthetic of this new show looks like "AI slop"
>>220432597It's just the way the manga looks.
>>220432297major...
>>220432619Built for BAIC
>>220432563You have the 95 movie and Stand Alone Complex which were pretty good, but seems like everything else tries to live up to the movie and fails, so it's probably about time to try something new which ironically is to make it really more like the comic. Basically just including a lot more silly humor which is okay.
>>220432597Isn't that the other way around? AI slop took so much from anime
>looks great>animation is fantastic>carefully adapted from manga>voices are neat>music is FUCKING POP JAZZ FUCK YOU JAPANjust give me minimal techno and throat singing again for fuck sake
>>220432597???? Compare it to any slop animation ever made and it doesn't look similar at all.
>>220432597>looks like "AI slop"the new 4chan npc response, seen this said about Sekiro anime too
>>220432650>>220432563Like I said art style is the deciding factor of me watching anime. I am not a weeb or really hardcore into anime so don't just watch anime on a whim, though ironically GitS 95 and boy and the beast, 2 anime movies are in my list of fav movies. I also have a real liking to the world building of GitS. Despite all the animes being rather disjointed instead of a continuous story.Some of them I have not watched though and probably never will because of the art style. I like I dislike the cheap looking CGI ones, I think it is SAC 2045. Not watched them.Irony again because I often look specifically for CGI anime movies as I prefer CGI to hand drawn.Like captain harlock or gantzOAlso another thing with GitS is that I watch anime in english dubs and with GitS they often swap VAs. me being used to and liking specific ones, it gets annoying.The VAs for togusa, aramaki and batu specifically.
>>220432805Yeah. A buncha AI slop tries to look like 80s manga and anime, so when you have a throwback anime lile this people may think that.
>>220432618Of course, even Shirow's art doesn't look like that anymore. So it really is a throwback to an older style, which is nice.
>>220432597i'm mindraped by AIsekiro looks like AI, new GiTS looks AI, everything that comes out looks like AI
>>220432297Holy shit, Shirow drawing style, i'm legitimately hyped
>>220433130His older style never looked like this show either. He colored stuff in a completely different way but not in the way that this show does it.
uhm, this is evil, satanic and jewishdo i fit in now?
>>220433213The linework and some of the designs look like they do in the manga. >He colored stuff in a completely different wayAren't only a few of the pages actually colored?
>>220433238Peak
>>220432297Ah good a ghost in the shell thread on my /tv/I'm actually banned from /a/ right now
>>220433294The sequel manga was full color.
SOVL
>>220434060Relentlessly soulful
>>220432563yeah I think the 1995 version looked better aside from The Major's creepy ass doll eyes. I fucking HATE modern digishit animation and coloring >>220432297will they have the lesbian gangbang?
>>220434663Tbh digital animation can be fantastic when it's animated on paper and then just touched on the computer. Check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOXolSQcEb4 out and as for the colors it depends. Some studios still do hand painted backgrounds like studio ghibli.
>>220432597yeah, it's digial anime. all animes made in the last 20 years look like ai sloppa>>220433213>>220433294digital colors look like ai sloppa to the point where even reddit npcs can point out the exact episode of pokemon they switched to digital colors>>220433463based>>220434724hand painted isn't digishit. digishit pretty much always looks terrible. the fact that you can instantly see when an anime was made in the 90s vs mid 2000s due to the terrible digishit is jarring
now bring back Golden Boy!
>>220434724well like Puss in boots was amazing so anything can be done with good direction and vision
>>220432297The animation of the guy laughing reminds me of Matt Groening's cartoon style.
>>220433214Only if it gave you a boner and you said that because you felt guilty about it.
>>220433214i imagine my penins between the lipsies
Piss off back to /a/ you diddy ahh bitch
>>220434775>hand painted isn't digishitSo Ghibli movies are not digital anime? Flip flappers, a 2016 anime, is not digital?
>>220432297Honestly feels too childish to me they even inserted this cartoon stock sounds.I know people have different tastes but for me GIts is better with more mature and thriller like themes and style.
>>220434775>digital colors look like ai sloppaPic related is a digitally colored episode from 90s simpsons. It doesn't look like slop. Also 99.99% of video games use digital colors and no one complains about them being slop
>>220434838
>>220434775Dude, a lot of digital anime are or were still drawn on paper.>all animes made in the last 20 years look like ai sloppaNah, Mononoke(the tv series) is one of the most interesting looking piece of animation I've ever seen.
>>220434869whats your point?
>>220434780This, there are plenty of great animated movies and series made after 2000. >>220434778I don't think you actually want them to properly adapt that manga.
>>220434902dude just wants so that everything was made like in stone age, forever. Why you argue with a retard?
>>220434811I haven't watch ghibli shit. digishit looks like ass. hand drawn anime from the 80s and 90s looks good>>220434853simpsons looks like ass>>220434902digital anime always looks fucking terrible>>220434952>why would you use a technique that looks better>progress is always goodretard. digital animation looks fucking terrible
>>220434973>digital anime always looks fucking terribleHave you watched Mononoke? Redline? Or for western examples Atla, the Beauty and the Beast?
>>220434973do you even know what technique you talking about? Everyone was doing the digital photo of finished frames since forever and then fix and montage it in computer. Just look at the Golden Boy episode bro.
>>220435002redline does look like shit, mononoke is an extreme outlier.
>>220434973It's hard discussing with you because you don't know what "digital animation" actually means. A lot of digital anime, was hand drawn and then completed on a pc with digital ink but as I've said some studios even hand paint the backgrounds. Do you know that there is a nip guy that does indie animation in a format that was popular before even cel animation? He draws every frame and background without any layers and he released his masterpiece in 2010. >I haven't watch ghibli shitThen how are you a fan of animation if you haven't even watched stuff from one of the studios that has made some of the most beautiful animated scenes in the medium. Feels like talking to a wall.
>>220433238>Girl with auburn hairWow, haven't seen an 80s kino waifu like that in a awhile. Bravo to the art team they nailed it on that
>>220435042>redline does look like shit,It doesn't. >mononoke is an extreme outlier.So have you actually watched it? Or you just goggled it right now?
>>220435002nope>>220435017I know it looks like ASS
>>220435093you like modern isakei digisloppadigital animation always looks like shit. just like digital photography looks like shit and movies filmed on digital cameras look like shita big part of why movies and tv shows and stuff are terrible now is due to digital art and digital cameras
>>220434912Don't limit yourself to only one side of GITS because of Oshii's dark and brooding style becoming strongly associated with the franchise. This series has much more to offer than what it was used for in the last 30 years
>>220435161I've never watched an isekai show other than Now and Then. You should really watch Ghibli at some point, other wise I am done with this meaningless discussion.
me when i 5plhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIBKvocczU8
>>220435161nolan is not using a digital camera and his movies are still pure slop thoughever
>>220435093Its actually (you) being disingenuous and trying to muddy the line between cel and digital animation, which no one ever falls for, no matter how much you keep trying to repeat your nonsense.
>>220434663you make this site a pain in the ass to use.
>>220435114anon redline is just constant cheap digital tricks, whereas all the effort in mononoke went to trying to look as much like cel animation as possible.But its not like being disingenuous is new to you.
>>220435241Can you explain yourself? My point was that digital doesn't exactly mean not hand drawn.
Science Saru can do no wrong
literally every anime and cartoons are digital since around 2000 because cel animation died
>>220435185I think I'll watch the princess monoko one, that's pre digishit>>220435222kek>>220435263because I hate an inferior form of animation?
>>220435283yeah, and they've all looked like shit. that's why all of the best animes were from the 80s and 90s and there are only a few good ones going into the mid to early 2000s compared to the vast number of good ones from before 2000. it's why batman TAS looks good and modern western cartoons look like ass
>>220435174This sounds weird but I wish they add the early 90s reboot / shadow riders looking backgrounds the original comic had in some scenes.
>>220435271>anon redline is just constant cheap digital tricks, whereas all the effort in mononoke went to trying to look as much like cel animation as possible.Idk if you are joking but redline but a lot more effort into shading, which is usually associated with cel animation(also look at how the crowds move in redline and how much effort was put into them). , while Mononoke tried to ape the look of old japanese pictures/representations of old japanese folklore.
>>220432297>Posting tranime outside the tranime boardkys tranny
its funny how its literally impossible to have an honest discussion of the decline of anime on 4chan.
>>220435174you mean kiddy jokes and funny cartoon sounds? what else it has to offer?
>>220432297>Science Saru They're going to censor the nipples the original manga has
>>220435364The whole world declined, there is not a single good movie or tv show made after the end of the 90s. >>220435161Based this is why 1999 was the last good year for movies/tv shows.
>>220435378Devilman crybaby by the same studio has uncensored nipples
>>220435297name us what anime you think isnt digishit and we laugh at you because it would actually be digital.
>>220435317okay boomer
>>220435364I don't understand why so many posters, especially on /a/ try to claim digital animation looks as good as the cel stuff. even if you are trying to use the >you're cherry pickingargument, there's way less modern stuff to cherry pick because it's not good. /v/ does the same thing with the>old good new bad seethe, when there really haven't been many good games in the last 5-10 years. >>220435407gunbusters. I know there is limited digitshit in GitS 1995, Akira and a decent bit in cowboy bebop. one of the big reasons why GitS2 in 2004 looks like shit is that it's mostly or all digishit compared to the 1995 film that's mostly cel with some digital shots.it's like how terminator 2, the mummy 1999 and Jurassic Park 1 and 2 look good and have some digital effect, but they largely aren't digital or how the wes anderson mini effects look better than modern CGI>>220435431go watch old loony toons or tom and jerry vs shit made now
>>220435370>you mean kiddy jokes and funny cartoon soundsExactly
>>220435378Based
>>220432619they knew what they were doing including that shot in the trailer
>>220435364>on 4chanwell, you literally can't have a real discussion on anything about Japan ouside of Japan
>>220432297I don't like the style, I prefer the GiTS look
>>220435378A shame
>>220435379>there is not a single good movie or tv show made after the end of the 90s.This but I would say that there is not a single good piece of media in general made after the end of the 90s. Man I miss that decade, zoom zooms will never understand what we lost.
>>220435445>last 5-10 years.Last 5-10 years? Dude you are too generous, video games have been nothing but rancid shit since the early 00s
>>220433238I really appreciate how unabashedly late-80s they kept all the character designs
>>220435445what can anyone say other than ''okay'' to someone who hates 99.999% of animation after 2000s?it's not for you now, end of discussion
>>220433214The original manga had a lesbian orgy, anon
>>220435446then that's not for me as i said.
>>220435536>it's not for youcorrect, its for people who enjoy eating shit.
>>220435445Almost all vidya uses digitshit paint, how do you cope with that?
>>220435567oh right, i forgot that video games used to be exclusively hand drawn before japan's bubble economy burst.
>>220435536it's not for me because it looks like ass >>220435567almost all vidya looks like shit
>>220435198The bare booba in the 90s movie were fap worthy
>>220435538Based
>>220435564either way, basically 100% of animated stuff are digital in the 21th century. why bother?
>>220435582Nice cope, but video games could actually just go for hand drawn art and then not digitally color it. Some have actually done that. Too bad almost all of them are digishit garbage. Stop consuming slop.
>>220435611There's never a reason to not call a pile of shit, a pile of shit.
>>220435528It looks like a huge love letter to the manga with no brakes. They even kept a small detail of Motoko painting her nails, only Manga Major does that
>>220435623Or you're just being aggressively disingenuous out of desperation to justify your consumption of digital anime, drawing comparisons where they don't exist, etc.
/tv/ is full of anti-japanese low tier trolls nowit's all so tiresome
>>220435666>pointing out that digital animation sucks is "anti-japanese low tier trolling"and this is why they'll never get out of the digital animation slum.
>>220435661>says the guy trying to cope with his consumption of digital vidyaLmao. How do they not exists comparisons , when there are video games that put effort into hand drawing the art? Are you one of those fags that still plays modern vidya when the medium has been in the dumpster since the 00s?
>>220435582>used to be exclusively hand drawna lot of digital anime are still hand drawn but digitally colored, that's why genga exists
>>220435701video games were always digital bro. the few times they've used cel animation for assets everyone took notice.This isn't a functional line of debate. This is just you pissing and shitting yourself.
>>220435713The point was to make light of the idea of "non-digital video game," my autistic friend.
>>220435714I am not necessarily talking about cel animation, but about hand drawn art you faggot. There are a few vidya that used hand drawn art for assets. >the few times they've used cel animation for assetsThose were the few times they were good.
>>220435714> video games were always digital broSo video games have always been garbage? Sad.
>>220435758and everyone sane does not define "hand drawn" as "they used their hands to move the mouse or scratch the tablet," but rather pencil, ink, paper, etc.
>>220435770>digital animation is shit>haha that means video games are all shit because they're digital tooooooo-oooo nannynannybooobooothis is utterly pathetic.
>>220435788Yes, you get it. There are games, the few worthwhile playing, that had pencil drawn art that later got scanned and used as an asset. I miss when games were 2d before the cgi garbage that ruined the medium.
>>220432297this looks cool
>>220435378? >>>/a/288032692
>>220435805>digital=shitUnironically true. I don’t see why the logic doesn’t make sense? Why would I want to look at ugly digisloppa?
>>220435817anon this doesn't work. this is not a valid comparison at all. video games did not go from x with extreme outliers of y to y with extreme outliers of x, the way anime has with cel to digital and digital to celno one is going to fall for this or even be trolled by it. at most people will feel sorry for you, as you're such a sad little shit for trying this line of "debate" at all.
>>220433238where did you find this? post more
>>220435733Ok, but understand that people don't have a problem with "digital animation" because a lot of anime since 2000 were not actually animated and drawn on a pc but rather by hand. They have a problem with digital colors and SFX.
>>220432297SAC 2045 was okay. Even kinda good. The story was good, and the end deep. The spirit of GITS was respected story-wise. The characters personalities as well. Now many criticized the CGI choice, but after the first episode you are in the swings of things, and don't notice the CGI anymore. That said, sure, the CGI could have been better, they should have made a CGI that look manga like.
>>220435882No, people have a legitimate problem with quite literally all digital animation. As it simply does not look good, unless its working extremely hard to imitate cel animation aesthetics, which they rarely do, because that's time consuming."dey use dey hans" is just weapon's grade cope.
>>220432297Looks great
>>220434939do you like big girls has uncensored sex scenes
>>220432563Nah, it's cool
>>220435867>anon this doesn't work. this is not a valid comparison at all But it is? Everyone with functioning eyes can compare how games used to look compared to how games look now and the games that actually used hand drawn art are pretty respected. That's why there are so many retro gamers that prefer old vidya.
>>220435867Tbh the art direction in games othe 80s-00s was way better than before.
>>220435361Shartranny seething again
>>220435934>how games used to lookdigital>how games look nowdigital
>>220435468It's called knowing your audience and it's a good thing
>>220435913>all digital animationIf they used their hands without tweening it's still hand drawn animation. > quite literally allNah Atla was beloved and Spirited away was the first anime to win the animated category. >As it simply does not look goodI will play with the other anons' dumb concept but do you think that all fanart made after 00s looks bad, that all video games look bad?
>>220436002I'm not acknowledging your "hand drawn" bullshit. I'm comparing cel to digital. Period. you have no argument.
>>220435976>digitalOld games had more exceptions of hand drawn stuff and good quality pixel art+ vidya that used traditionally animated cutscenes.>digitalNow games rely even more on custcenes yet they look worse and have no traditionally drawn assets.
>>220435868in the /a/ thread, didn't see more
>>220436026>I'm not acknowledging your "hand drawn" bullshit.Ok, then discuss the rest of what I've written. About Atla, Spirited Away, fanart and video games.
>>220436038If you want to compare pixel art to polygons, that's one thing, and an entirely different debate than cel to digital in animation.But you know this.
>>220436076I can compare that as well since it all adds to the degradation of the medium.
>>220436063Considering you keep bringing up avatar as if it isn't shit, no, I'm not going to engage with you at all. that "style" was literally built around the idea they'd only be able to "animate" at an average of 8fps, if that high.
>>220436098A line of reasoning you'd only employ if you aren't old enough to have this discussion at all.Literally no one was bemoaning the loss of pixel art when fully explorable 3D worlds started being the main form of video game.
>>220435976>>220435805Bro, your logic is :>digital art looks like garbage>video games all use digital artSo the conclusion would be that all video games look like garbage(which I guess doesn't matter if you only play them for the gameplay) .
>>220436121You are retarded, the 3d medium looks like pure slop, you shit eater.
>>220436140video games did not shift from one set of techniques (read: cel animation) to another, vastly inferior set of techniques (digital animation) to achieve a lesser form of the same thing, to save time/money.
>>220434973>>220435161You're really just a moron, aren't you?
>>220436105Why is avatar shit? It has some great animated action scenes that look better than 90% of tv animation made after or before the 00s.
>>220436155(you)'re saying "slop" so much because your efriends started getting demonetized for profanity, and needed a single syllable replacement for "shit."
>>220436171Yes, that's true. My point is that they look like and have always looked liked shit following your own logic. Games haven't changed but that means that they have always been using an inferior set of techniques since the beginning.
>>220436178here, let me copy/paste the rest of the post you didn't read> that "style" was literally built around the idea they'd only be able to "animate" at an average of 8fps, if that high.
>>220436190Yeah my bad, I can use shit as well. 3d games are pure shit.
>>220436197Anon, you're autistic, you don't have any real understanding of "logic." This isn't a gotcha. This is just you desperately grasping at straws.
>>220436198>> that "style" was literally built around the idea they'd only be able to "animate" at an average of 8fps, if that high.Proof? You said that but you haven't actually posted an example of it so it's just bullshit.
>>220436217I am not trying to get a gotcha, I am trying to understand your logic. Answer this: do video games look good?
>>220436235... anon the showrunners literally talk about the animation constraints and trying to make every frame matter... fuck why do i know this despite not seeing a single episode and a shitslurping cunt praising it doesn't?
>>220436217>everything made with Y looks like shit>X was made with Y so X looks like shit>noooooooo this is not real logic
>>220436251why is it hard for you to comprehend how that is completely irrelevant to the situation in animation?
>>220436308who are you quoting?
>>220436295>... anon the showrunners literally talk about the animation constraints and trying to make every frame matterPost the directors saying that they've animated at an average of 8fps
>>220436319Ok, it’s irrelevant. Now answer my question, do video games look good?
>>220436342(you)
>>220436352oh well, you've been disingenuous the entire thread, why would you stop now? >>220436366>noooo you have to answer my non sequitur!!see >>220436171
>>220436380I agree with your post, I am just curious on your opinion on video games. Do you even play them?
>>220436380So you can’t provide proof? I accept your concession.
>>220436402Doesn't matter.>>220436415>pretending he's never watched the show he praised
>>220436435>Doesn't matter.Why? I am curious. I want to know what you think about other media as well not just anime.
>>220436435Provide proof. I’ve watched atla and it looked great.
>>220432563>I don’t like the artThen you don’t like GITS because that’s the manga’s original art style, you newfag
>>220436459The only reason would be to distract from the objective decline of anime.
>>220436435Bro are you not answering because you are afraid of being called a shit eater? Everyone knows you like garbage shit based on >>220436121. You probably love all that 3d unreal engine garbage.
>>220436566Distract who? Only the 2 of us are here and media in general has declined so anime is nothing special, it’s just like all the rest. Now answer my question.
>>220435445>there's way less modern stuffYet there still is some good stuff you just have to search for it. Ping pong the animation is one of my favorite anime series, it has fantastic characters and symbolism and even though it's digitally animated it has its own unique art style that looks like nothing in specific.
>>220436593>so anime is nothing specialIt is though. One single shift, from cel to digital, is entirely responsible for the decline.
>¡Ay, caramba! ¡A esta nueva adaptación le falta tanta esencia! Hay que darle más profundidad y atmósfera; además, no parece un manga de gags cómicos.^ How every '95/SAC baby opinion sound like.
>>220436685It isn't because of 2 reasons:1. It happened at the beginning of the 00s when every medium went to shit for various reasons2. Cinema went through the same process of abandoning old techniques and technology in the same time interval. Now please answer my question.
>>220432619>>220435468
>>220435882>>220435913it's both. digital colors look fucking horrendous but cell drawings and animation also just look better than digital drawings and animations because current anime looks really flat. Like gunbuster legit looks better than modern shit. the colors are the worst part. holy shit do digital colors look bad
>>220435931it looks really flat. the character designs are fine but the whole thing looks really flat and nuanime compared to the 1995 film
>>220436729You're just trying to ignore how much damage digital animation techniques did to anime as a medium. Everyone knows how much damage it did. Only (you) are trying to argue something else into being.
>>220436768>cell drawings and animation also just look better than digital drawings and animations because current anime looks really flatIt depends on the show and movie, Koike's Lupin had a lot of effort put into the drawing. Miyazaki's movies still looked great and had tons of detail.
>>220435931>digital depth of field blurring just makes it look flatter than any other scene with depthits like they don't even understand how to create depth anymore.
>>220436796>You're just trying to ignore how much damage digital animation techniques did to anime as a medium.I already agree with that. The same techniques did the same shit to movies as well or do you think modern movies have the same colors and lighting as older ones? Do you know what a digital camera is? Now answer my question already: what do you think about video games ffs?
>>220436820Its funny how much trouble the autistic have with the concept of statistical outliers.
>>220435361GitS is aryanime, nusoi.
>>220436002>Spirited away was the first anime to win the animated category.that's more to do with timing than spirited away. like Princess Mononoke and Totoro both look better than spirited away. it's like how decaprio won his oscar for the revenant and the revenant was ass. A lot of oscars are given for past works and not the film that's actually being considered and spirited away is kind of them retroactively giving the award for all of the studio ghibli films made to that point
>>220436862My problem is when you claim that that "everything is x" when it's false.
>>220436173nah, you are a gay retard
>>220436855the film vs digital shift is a much more subtle and nuanced shift, that has culminated into bigger more noticeable problems.but its still nothing compared to the night and day shift from cel to digital.
>>220436868>. like Princess Mononoke and Totoro both look better than spirited awayhow do you know that when you've never watched a ghibili movie in your life?
>>220436888>the film vs digital shift is a much more subtle and nuanced shiftExtremely false. There are thousands of sites that talk about how movies changed overnight. Just like digital animation there are so many things that digital camera can never replicate from the old decade. 2000s+ movies look nothing like 90s movies. Are you genuinely low iq or are you trolling?
better than netflixslop at least
>>220436820the pre 2000 studio Ghibli movies look better than the ones made from spirited away on >>220436910>pull up youtube clip from film>wow the ones made before spirited away look betterI'm not talking about the narrative content. you can argue the aesthetic appeal without watching the whole film. Like how Gunbuster looks better than Diabuster or TTGL. the more expensive pre 2000s cel animes look better than the post 2000s digishit. cel is just a better looking medium just like film looks better than digital photos and videos. it's why the japanese clips from power rangers look amazing but the japanese clips from modern power rangers look like ass. the newer stuff isn't better, it's just cheaper.
>>220436868>there isn't even a best animated film catagory until 2002 and these were the first nomineesokay that's grim.
>>220436949plain as day vs autistic nitpicking anon.
>>220436885>be autistic>can only think in absolutes>also perplexed by absolutes
>>220436888>>220436949>>220436855you can make digishit look pretty good. I think Fincher did it with Mank but Fincher is also uniquely talented and it took a lot of time and effort digishit creators refuse to put in>>220436928sexual harassment >>220436971good pic
>>220436996>autistic nitpickingSo you re saying that people that shit on digital camera are nitpicking. Fucking lmao. All the actual directors that shit on it are also nitpicking? Can you explain why movies made with digital camera look like pure garbage without any color? >>220436973Can you please explain the disadvantages of digital camera so the other anon hears you.
>>220436768coloring is what really kills it for meit's like they all use the default paint bucket in mspaint, there's no gradience, no texture, no palette, no relief, no shadow to anything, it's so flat and sterile, drives me nuts how most don't notice or get disgusted by it
>>220437023>you can make digishit look pretty good99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time looks like shit, what you've named is a statistical outlier and Se7en looks way better than Munk.
>>220437033I will state the fact that film to digital was not as massive a downgrade as cel to digital. Literally anyone can notice the difference between cel and digital. film and digital, not so much.
Koike save us ahh
>>220437061>naruto generationWasn't the stuff on the bottom directed by a man born in the 70s?
>>220436976so I was even more right. I'm sure the boy and his heron also won because miyazaki is like 85. not saying it's not a good film but the oscars are such a shitty way to measure things because like you pointed out, the category literally didn't fucking exist before spirited away and I'm sure a lot of the boy and heroin stuff was because they think it's Miyazaki's last film and wanted to give him an award for his entire life's work>>220437033>Can you please explain the disadvantages of digital camera so the other anon hears you.they have too much dynamic range and they render everything super fucking flag and low contrast, which no one ever fucking fixes and they can't do tonal transitions the way film can because film is an analogue emulsion, digital is like a discrete 1 and 0 the pixels are on or off digital array. you can't have a partially changed pixel and they just don't have the ability to transition tones/colors as well. I'm not the only one who thinks this, go look up digital black and white photography and there are essays upon essays of seethe about how digital black and white looks like ass compared to how film renders black and white>>220437067yes. that's why I said it required a specific person who has a specific talent and put in a ton of effort that no one else does
>>220437061yeah I fucking HATE digital colors so fucking much
>>220437070>Literally anyone can notice the difference between cel and digital. film and digital, not so much.Only if you are a blind retard with shit taste. Everyone notices how remakes always look worse.
>>220437117a proper comparison in film, to the anime shift from cel to digital, would be if suddenly all "live" actors were made of plastic. That's how drastic the differences are between cel and digital. What most people will see in your example is a blurry picture next to a clearer picture.
>>220437104>there are essays upon essays of seethe about how digital black and white looks like ass compared to how film renders black and whiteThis. Too bad low iqers like >>220437070 can't understand this.
>>220437155understand what? there's lots of people talking about something that doesn't matter to most people?
I don't even get why people seethe over people pointing out that digital looks worse than cel or that digital looks worse than film. it's not even doing the>all new things bad, modern sucks, basedboy woke shitstuff, it's literally just pointing out that one medium legitimately looks worse than another medium
>>220432297Go back to /a/
>>220437180its really just the one guy trying to insist digital is fine by comparing digital animation to other digital things.
>>220437152>would be if suddenly all "live" actors were made of plasticAll modern actors are made of plastic, read >>220390757. Old movies had so much better color usage it's insane>is a blurry picture next to a clearer picture.They will se the lack of color and aesthetic
>>220437218>blurry vs not blurry again
>>220437210go on >>>/a/. literally every poster on >>>/a/ tries to argue that modern digital animation looks as good as cel. >>>/co/ at least admits that older tom and jerry and loony tunes ect look better than the modern ones
>>220437173>there's lots of people talking about something that doesn't matter to most people?If we appeal to majority then most people enjoy non-cel anime as well. >>220437210Are you illiterate? He is saying that both cel and film look better than digital. I think digital sucks btw.
>>220437236/co/ only talks about indieslop
>>220437229You are retarded.
>>220437229NTA but most movies shot on digital video look really fucking flat. digital video has super high dynamic range and very low contrast and none of the film makers ever bother to account for that. film also has more texture, better tonal transitions and as much as digicucks try to say that modern digital is better resolution, the fact they can go back and scan 35 mm film and make 4k scans shows that film was just as good if not better at capturing resolution compared to digital. Like film imax and 70mm are close to if not higher than 8k. Like I think there are 8k scans of lawrence of arabia
>>220437218>>220437229
>>220437298>lawrence of arabiaLawrence of arabia looks better than any digital movie.
>>220437324correct
