Star Wars is fucking dead.
>>220809319I went to see mandalorian yesterday, there were six people in the theater total
>>220809319the movie is overhated, it is honestly not that bad. a bit cheap looking and the action could be better but still miles better then anything else disney star wars has made and gets praised by the same people that hate mandalorian now for some reason. most of the criticism i have heard for the new movie were seriously "there isn't a girlboss in it " and "the male lead is to competent"
>>220809491>most of the criticism i have heard for the new movie were seriously "there isn't a girlboss in it " and "the male lead is to competent"oh my hitler! i guess now me and all mu chuddie buddies are gonna have to see it! thanks totallynotashillanon
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Bury it if you have to
>>220809522His peak intellect was debating bots in twitter 5 years ago
>>220809491But it is Disney Wars. It's just a fucking longer episode.
>>220809319You’ve been saying this for decades and it still isn’t true.
>>220809631It's barely been 10 years, I think your grasp on time is slipping.
>>220809631Explain in what way it isn't. The sequel trilogy was a failure with no positive legacy, Rise of Skywalker flopped, the spinoffs mostly flopped, the prequels are more popular than anything Disney has made, and a new Star Wars film in 2026 won't even crack the top 10 highest grossing films of the year. Now listen you fucking retarded shill faggot, that clearly indicates that audiences are not responding to Star Wars anymore and that the franchise means little to young people. Its popularity into the future is not guaranteed.
>>220809319Well yeah star wars can't compete with a qt brown girl.
>>220809364Well it beat The Marvels then.
>go to reddit to see the nerds crying over this>all of the threads are either literally "box office doesn't matter post-COVID, Mando is a hit" (???) or "USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST"We can't even salt mine anymore
>>220809829Genuinely insane how Captain Marvel made $1 billion. Marvel hype was really through the roof back then, cinema will never have a similar success again
>>220809491Pedo pascal deserves financial flops, followed by deportation, and finally a helicopter ride.
>>220810304Has he ever had a real hit?
>>220809319It's fine, chill.
>>220809319Based if true
>>220809319Good.
>>220810204i still believe the rumors that disney bought tickets
>>220809319>Yidsney Wars defeated by a slag with fat titsYou love to see it. I for one can't wait for the mass Grogumommy suicide.
The movie is basically the equivalent of 3-4 streaming episodes put together. Or in other words, a direct-to-video flick put on the big screen
>>220809319Movies are really just terrible
>>220809319My bpdemon gf is trying to kill me simulator is based
>>220809319i wish it were so but clearly disney won't stop beating their dead horse for another 20 years or so
>>220809319Fucking. Beautiful.
>>220810930the AAA blockbuster franchise movie is just dead and buried. Doomsday flopping is going to be the final nail in the coffin, especially if DUNC3 beats it
>>220810771Based Anna.
>>220811087nta but they were correct. the proof that movies suck is in your post, dunc sucks ass too. we have the option of capeshit, franchiseslop or zendayaslop. it's all shit
>>220810849Yeah I know. It's because you're stupid.
>>220811213>Buff JabbaReally want a new baby yoda huh.
>>220811213i actually liked the movie but this gladiator scene combared to the one in attack of the clones was like night and daythe sense of scale and cinematographie are form two diffrent worlds
>>220811213Jabba the Swole
>>220811213Where are all the people? This is the first Star Wars movie in theaters in almost 7 years
>>220811213My shit fighting germs in the toilet
>>220809319so lets all stop talking about it
>>220811213when you have too many glup shittos to fit in the movie
>>220809319Red Letter Media killed Star Wars
>>220811227Yes yes you're racist because you can't breed, I get it
>>220809631remember when you were a kid and you associated westerns with your dad or grandpa? that’s Star Wars today. it has no longevity as a series anymore. actually it’s probably in a worse spot than westerns after the 70s
>>220811087Holy shit please let doomsday flop it would be so kino
>>220811380>Where are all the peopleNobody likes starwars anymore bro, nobody has really liked it in a couple decades, even hardcore fans struggle to digest disney slop.
>young/indie filmmakers can't get anything funded or made unless it's horror>bunch of innovative horror films release>box office becomes dominated by low budget horror over established brand slopNew-new-hollywood is coming whether or not boomer fucks embrace it
>>220811213So was Jabba once a swelled-up badass who just let himself go once he became the undisputed boss of Mos Eisley? Or is he still considered a fat, slovenly fuck even among other Hutts?
>>220809491What do you expect? Those are the only people who still give a shit about anything Star Wars.
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>>220811794Never stated.This guy is Jabba's son and he's buff like this because he's been a pit fighter for years.I think the implication is that hutts can be physically imposing, and probably were before their race became crimelords, but running planet-wide crime empires, being fabulously wealthy and having a million underlings to do all your dirty work for you have made them fat lards, like the humans in Wall-E.
>>220811213Damn, the CGI is about on par with the 90s era movies.
>/tv/ hated Mandalorian>/tv/ hated Book of Boba Fett>/tv/ hated Andor>now /tv/ hates Mandalorian and GroguI honestly couldn’t give less of a shit if I tried, almost everyone here has horrendous taste or can’t just enjoy something fun. All of the above have never been anything but good, with some of it being genuinely excellent. The try-hard faggots on this board are so fucking boring and should an hero.
>>220812456Mandalorian was alright for a while, but got shitty. Boba Fett was just flat out shitty.I haven't tried Andor yet, but I hear it's alrightPeople are just flat out sick of Grogu since he's essentially on the same level as Minions to wine aunts now.
>>220811794Hutts are fat by default but are can get ripped if they want.There was a Hutt Jedi who got ripped then got fat again when he turned to the Dark Side and got lazy
>>220811213>what if we made a real life version of the chess game in the arena from the first map of the bounty hunter game10-15 years ago i would've been hyped for this, even with the roided jabba bullshit
>>220812456>mandos1 & 2 are solid kino. s3 is mid with some real lows and no highs.>book starts off alright and nosedives by the third episode, finale was decent>andor was alright and turned to bloated faggot shit, anyone who hypes up the 2nd season has no taste and i immediately disregard their opinions when it comes to discussing the franchise. s1 was genuinely good minus a few small issues. s2 started off bad and only got worse.
>>220809319Star slop died after the prequels
>>220811213>cgi monsters fighting cgi monsters
>>220812251I understand why Bear did it
>>220809319the force is female
>>220811213
>>220811213India's greatest feat
>>220809319Star Wars has to be one of the easiest franchises to write for since it’s all just a matter of taking the platform of a basic story type and then integrating it into the universe. 90% of the work has been done by other people already and it’s just a matter of crossing your t’s and dotting your i’s. Knights rescuing Princesses? Done. Gunslingers hunting outlaws? Done. Ronin defending village? Done. It’s so fucking easy yet somehow some way these syphilitic retards keep fucking it up.
>>220813363they keep fucking it up because they refuse to see how simple it is and also never watched any kurosawa films (except rian, as bad as tlj was he understood the formula)
Why the fuck did they name Baby Yeed, Grogu?
>>220813403not really, the last jedi was just a dripping seething screed of contempt towards star wars
>>220809550Better than you debating the voices in your head
>>220813448Nah, Rian loves star wars, he just likes the actual heart and soul of star wars, whereas most of the braindead fanboys just want action figure slop.
>>220810204Captain Marvel didn't make 1b. Disney just said it did.
>>220809829based spic meme
>>220813501so true
>>220813448you're absolutely right which is why rian purposely fucked the whole thing upbut compare the last shart to the lucas films, they flow almost identically. his film is a weird perfect mix of the OT and PT in that regard, it's basically a low-key remake of attack of the clones while also borrowing from empire & jedi except kamino happens later in the film instead of sooner and the dagobah bits happen earlier.it's still an absolutely massive piece of shit and deserves every bit of scorn it receives, but all rian needed was a babysitter to fix the writing and he would've made a genuinely good star wars film.jew jew on the other hand was not a salvageable mess and he knew it. there's a reason he turned down lucasfilm's first offer at directing, he's the most casual of star wars fans and knew he couldn't hack it at writing a star wars film, this is why he intentionally did a remake of a new hope. the rise of skywalker isn't even worth mentioning, plus that's also the fault of chris terrio, at least with farce engorges lawrence kasdan was just there for publicity, terrio actually contributed to writing his disaster.
>>220813574I forget that Kasdan apparently wrote TFA. If I was George I would break up the friendship over that
>>220809319Can we get the broken toy back now?
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>>220813819that's what i'm saying, kasdan in no way actually partook in writing that half-assed shitfest, he was just there to cover jj's ass. that was how they promoted episode 7, the whole "back to how things were done" schtick was their bread & butter for the p&a campaigns, and that included bringing back the "star wars scribe" who barely wrote empire (self-admitted) and was only a co-writer on jedi, everyone conveniently forgetting or not knowing that george did tons of uncredited work on the ot.
>>220809491Sigorney Weaver was literally a girl boss in it though. She also saved his ass at the end of the movie, otherwise he would've been fucked.
>>220809319Good. Long overdue. Gen Xers were the only ones keeping this shit series alive.
>>220810204Disney lied about that and got away with it scot free. Disney was doing everything to pump their stock price at the time because they were trying to buy Fox.
>>220811213This is CGI slop on a level that George could never have even dreamed of. Bravo Furloni, I kneel.
>>220814707they lied about black panther too
>>220809319finallycapeshit next.. PLEASE
>>220814769george's cgi autism had purpose, that shot is literally just computer memberberries>MEMBA STAH WAHS CHESS? I MEMBAjon favreau was a kinosseur until he made that bullshit jungle book demake, now he's gone down the toiletfurloni isn't even a filmmaker or he would've grown some balls and developed his own style by now instead of just copying george
>>220814777That's fine since Chadwick Boseman lied about being alive for the next 20 years.
>>220809931Hatred has become apathy
What would you even do with Star Wars? It's just content now and no one fucking cares about anything except for the original Lucas era stuff
>>220814823Nothing. The franchise will eventually die
>>220813432Because a committee of retards and activists have been in control of SW since George signed away the rights.
>>220814823same shit i said the other dayput out a tweet saying the following"sequels and acolyte are no longer canon, all eu material subject to review; kotor series in development"a resurgence that makes the 00s resurgence look like a joke would commence upon that news going liveof course that all depends on me taking over the company as well
why did they even bother making the film? it was literally the exact same as the series, just in longer form. was absolutely no point in making it a feature length film
>>220815145They thought it would dilute the brand if there was no new star wars movie for 7 years
>>220815145kennedy was told to make another movie or get firedthey had no clue what to do (hence why a ben solo movie happening after episode 9 was taken seriously for a moment) and since mando was pretty much the only thing that managed to be a hit they took a shot at making it a movie. now whenever we get the actual mando season 4 it'll have to correlate with the events of this film and will be a combination of new and old scripts. if favreau was smart he would've made it a completely optional sidequest movie to hook new audiences into the show rather than continuing the journey and forcing any future viewers of the series to have to watch the film.
>>220811213Jabba the CUT
>>220811392We already have. It's just box office threads now.
>>220809364My theater too, but I enjoyed the movie. Their loss.
>>220809319Baby Grugro
>>220815377speaking of box office, this slop has so far barely recovered its budget. it cost about 165 million to make, and another 140 million spent on marketing coming to an even 300 million. they'll probably break the 200 million mark this weekend, but i don't think it has the legs for another 100 million after that. the cope comparisons with solo is hilarious though, that because mando cost half the budget of solo it's still semi-successful while also flopping. numbers are fun.
>>220809319no shit, when you go to the movies you wanna have fun, who wants to go see watch a cringe star wars movie rather than an horror movie
>>220809319All you had to do is having Cara Dune in a swimsuit. Or without.
>>220815696Star Wars will die officially when George Lucas does
>>220815714>stating the obvious>>220815708honestly having cara dune in the movie would have attracted numbers
>>220813574>plus that's also the fault of chris terrioI remember when Terrio was pushed as this genius visionary writer. He's the same idiot behind that Martha Martha shit in BvS. What the fuck.
>>220815708>>220815738How would they explain her weight loss?
>>220811321ATOC was filmed to be Gladiator since Lucas appreciated the historical source material he was shamelessly copying.M&G is basically wrestling, it's shot to be wrestling, and the stakes feel much lower because it looks like WWE.
>>220811213> they thought that this looked cool Let that sink in
>>220815753yeah he got a lot of buzz for argo. when you look back on it, the story really wrote itself and he hardly had to invent anything apart from just logically connecting stuff. then bvs happened and everyone immediately flipped shit on him, and when it was announced he was a writer on rise it killed hype. literally two back to back shitfests completely killed his career lol, he hasn't done anything since and i sincerely doubt he'll get work again. even jj is barely getting work these days.
>>220815792i mean she became a ranger so you could easily headcanon that she was simply busy and got her ass back in shape being the head of her unit. it would actually make for a neat police procedural. i expect she'll show up in the inevitable thrawn adaptation that's supposed to tie all the mando shows together.
>>220815443>>220809491This is exactly why Disney's prolonged period of fan antagonism was so dangerously short-sighted. It created a pre-emptive hostility towards new Star Wars films so that now when something that would have been considered okay if everyone was still into it is fighting an uphill battle not to be labeled as slop out of the gate. They lost the benefit of the doubt and considering how blindly loyal fans were for so long that's quite the accomplishment. The only thing that can save the Brand now is unironically them crawling back to Lucas and giving him creative input in future projects. They need to beat the fanfiction vibes
>>220815867She lost 100 lbs though. That's not just something you can handwave.
>>220809491nah, mediocre shit that exists to be inoffensive just so it can part your money from you deserves every bit of vitriol it receives
>>220811213What's the artistic achievement of this?
>>220816113Best garloid fight scene in cinema history
>>220816089nigger i just showed you how to handwave it. besides that season 2 was like 5 years ago at this point, it's been long enough that you don't even have to address it. again, she's active in the field. working up a sweat adds up to weight loss. try it sometime you fat fuck.>>220816045star wars doesn't need george to survive, it just needs a creative who understands his way of thinking. aka, it needs me. i have the same autism george does, i understand the "long time ago in a galaxy far far away" aspect that disney is vehemently bent on ignoring due to poor limited vision. today's film industry simply can't see the forest for the trees or however the expression goes, they don't have the ability to create an overview and can only act on a case-by-case basis. it's why a lot of today's films and shows suck, they lack the ability to think long-term. typical democratic/leftist thinking structure.
>>220816045>It created a pre-emptive hostility towards new Star Wars films so that now when something that would have been considered okay if everyone was still into it is fighting an uphill battle not to be labeled as slop out of the gate.this lol. millions spent on market research and these retarded suits still forget the basic concept of "good will"
>>220810849I doubt they bought tickets. They probably just lied
>>220811321This looks much better than prequel slop, go back redditor
>>220809491There's a lag time associated with how people respond to these long running properties. Disney has burned through all the goodwill that was built up with this franchise and audiences are tired of it. Now when people hear a new Star Wars movie is coming out they don't get excited, they say "who cares" and don't bother showing up. Especially given how expensive it is to go to the cinema these days. It probably doesn't help that the best that can be said about this one is that "it's ok". It's also got a shitty unappealing title which is another strike against it.
>>220816194they lied about their budgeting and marketing expenses, that's a known fact.
>>220813501Please blow your brains out asap
>>220816245what's sad is there are anons who unironically think this. is the quality of the models superior? sure, but you're trying to compare early digital graphics to 20 years worth of advancements, that's like comparing picasso to a fourth grader's finger paints. however, the mando shit has awful animation, whereas the clones scenes have proper movement and not janky ass shit (next you'll tell me it's designed to mimic the chess game, goalpost harder)
>>220809491>most of the criticism i have heard for the new movie were seriously "there isn't a girlboss in it " and "the male lead is to competent"i have not heard this critique once lmao. Everybody is shitting on it for feeling like a few filler episodes of a TV show stitched together with no purpose other than to sell toys.
>>220816045>>220815017This is not going to work. Extended universe stuff and spinoffs like KOTOR are for hardcore fans, not mainstream audiences. The average person only cares about the main series of films and Disney completely fucking blew it with the sequels. You can't really recover from that, you just have to wait another 10 years and try a new trilogy but the problem is that current generations don't care about the Star Wars brand when the Disney shit that was in theaters was worthless to them. The brand is permanently diluted. It can't recover
>>220810771The only time a woman has been funny
>>220816349Please die, you cancerous contrarian faggot
>>220816160This anon gets it. The whole appeal of Star Wars is that it took ancient myths and story dynamics and put them in a modern sci-fi setting. That's why even the prequels are popular with zoomers. Despite all the dogshit in them, they're drawn to the classic story of a fallen warrior becoming evil after facing tragedy. It has romance and drama with universal appeal. The Disney movies have NONE of this, they're not made with the past, present and future in mind. Literally all they cared for was making a quick buck at the box office, the opposite of George Lucas who genuinely cared about the movies and made his bucks with merchandising instead
>>220816045George coming back would bring the prequel kiddies back into the fold, maybe. The old fans are probably gone for good. They know they're never getting anything good ever again. Prequel kids might get more Jar Jar Binks though.
>>220816361that's where you're wrong, nigger. i have it all figured out. normally i refrain from posting this sort of thing in the small chance a lucasfilm nigger is snooping through the forum, but i've lost all hope at this point, so i'll reveal my grand plan.we start with an adaptation of the darth bane trilogy. no it doesn't go 1:1 to the books, it just borrows the general course of things. in that, we introduce the concept of darth revan and the old republic. that's where the spinoff happens. unlike mando, kotor doesn't get a movie that pops up in theaters. instead, it gets a massive series (imagine a proper 20+ episode season) that covers the games, the comics, and other tie-in media. i've even figured out how to have keanu cast as revan, he does the voice with the helmet. then, we adapt old revan material and he gets to play revan physically. i've got a bunch of other characters cast as well.
>>220809364That's what happens when you go during working hours
>>220816440Zoomers don't like the prequels, this whole false narrative is an astroturfed Disney reddit campaign from the subreddit prequel memes, fuck off mouse nigger jeet
>>220816468They absolutely do. Phantom Menace gets more plays on Disney+ than any Disney movie several times over.
Can Disney please stop making Star Wars shit, now? Please? I'm sick of their stink covering Star Wars. I really don't want to start hating Star Wars as a franchise, but Disney is fucking poison to it, they have no fucking idea how to write a fucking Star Wars story.
>>220816468theyre more beloved than the sequels lol
>>220816528Meaningless manipulated metrics, menace isn't even the best prequel movie
>>220810849This. money laundering 101Nobody talks about it, ever and i mean at alla billion my ass
>>220809319Baby yeet got mogged by the adventures of zoomer gf what a time to be alive
>>220816463Normies are not going to show up for a movie about "Darth Bane." Disney managed to fuck up the most obvious thing ever which was to make a proper sequel trilogy about Luka, Han and Leia and then show them pass the torch to their kids so the franchise can keep going after the boomers die. They don't have that. They don't have anything. All they had was Baby Yoda merchandise and not even the movie all about him could sell tickets. It's over, anon.
>>220816565They're both bad, just like your incessant trolling, no wonder this franchise is in the gutter with faggots like you manipulating the discourse about it, the best prequel media we have is from the clone wars cartoon which has a few absolutely stellar arcs that put the prequel movies to absolute shame
>>220809319Horror chads win again
Before discussing anything about its direction, Star Wars content needs a moratorium of at least 5 years. Same with capeshit, half the reason for the burnout is because studios keep trying to turn IPs into money printers that operate 24/7, so the market gets saturated with mediocrity
>>220816586BANE??
>>220809319G A P E D by BIG Plumber cock, BIG Heehee cock and now B I G Freaky Clit
>>220816612It doesn't matter. We know the prequels weren't actually good. The point is that they're still more popular and more culturally significant than anything Disney has done with the franchise. Do you not see how this makes Disney's handling of the series even more embarrassing? They were handed LucasFilm after audiences thought Star Wars and Indiana Jones reached rock bottom with Crystal Skull/prequel trilogy, and they somehow fucked up both of them.
>>220811213CHEF!
>>220816612the only good starwars cartoon is genndyeverything else is for babieschrist get some standards
>>220816653The sequels being subversive trash doesn't make the prequels culturally significant, you are mentally ill
>>220816586>Normies are not going to show up for a movie about "Darth Bane."they'll show up for a star wars movie about the sith that has nothing to do with the sequel trilogy. the maul show, while mid, has rave reviews for being the first star wars series to focus on a bad guy and has people once again calling for a darth vader series with hayden christensen. you underestimate the power of the white male, he is an easy market to capture and manipulate, it's called power fantasy. by casting a biblically accurate bane and zana i can easily bring the old guard back into theaters and shit on the sequels so hard people forget they even happened. i can even get them to accept mouse ownership. it's all in the marketing, anon. the sequel trilogy was marketed entirely on nostalgia and it worked. rogue one was marketed on nostalgia and it worked. solo was barely marketed and had tougher competition. mando was barely marketed and also came after the rise of skywalker plus several years of disappointing television. what a new proper film needs is an organic marketing strategy, you announce the film and barely reveal any details. then you shadow drop a trailer in the theaters of a movie that's got box office hype behind it, that builds buzz. do that for a week and then put it online for all to see, the hype explodes. but again, this all relies on having the right creatives on board. someone who understands george's way of thinking.
>>220816680Found the russian fag
>>220816685NTA but while it certainly doesnt make them good, the prequels undoubtedly got a new life among zoomers who think its the greatest shit ever. like it or not, prequel fans are a pretty big part of the younger audience
>>220816685just shut the fuck up imbecile, anyone with 2 eyes can see that nowadays the prequels have way more traction and audience momentum than any Disney Star Wars movie. The average person outright loves Revenge of the Sith
What is special about the baby yoda other than that it is a rather rare alien?
This is what I thought about this shit
>>220816730>entirety of the lucas canon in the top ten>no sequels in sightas it should be
>>220816745kino
>>220816744nothing, that's pretty much it. there are only about 7 of yoda's species in all of star wars so its appearance is considered special.
George Lucas’ memoir will be the greatest book ever written.
>>220816653The prequels are deeply flawed and stupid films but they have a sincerity that's been lacking in everything that came after. They were made with a cohesive vision by someone who had a story they wanted to tell and that comes through despite all the cringe moments.
>>220816653>>220816894it's still funny to me how disney adults went on a lifetime supply of copium to pretend dilate of destiny and the sequels had some merit to them just because they were retarded and felt the previous entries to be the literal rape of their childhood and everything they hold dear in life.>>220816887i hope he takes the fattest fucking shit over disney and does not apologize for one single word.
>>220816468do you understand the pull the the clone wars era actually has? It's second to the original era but dude it's been cemented as canon to anyone that isn't a Disney shill or 65+
>>220817148usually anyone that tries to deny the prequels' influence did not partake in the consumption of the cwmmp and missed out on the golden age of star wars kino
>>220816894Yeah the prequels like Megalopolis were the result of an actual creative vision, just one divorced from desperately needed editorial oversight. Disjointed but with a soul buried under all the flaws. George always had interesting ideas but on the original films he had people who could tell him "no". Harrison Ford was infamous for giving no fucks and openly mocking George's shitty dialogue. When the prequals came around however all he had were yes men and no one to reign in his ideas or give him useful critical feedback. You can see he still had a plan but the result is an overindulgent mess that suffers in the areas where Lucas is weak as a director (especially in directing actors as his weird autistic ass doesn't know how to tell people how to emote which results in a lot of weird off kilter performances from actors who are capable of much better).The sequels are corporate slop. No plan, thought, ideas, or direction. Just one question: how can we get asses in the seats and milk this shit for as much money as possible. It's still amazing to me that they took this franchise they'd spent 4 BILLION dollars on and ran it by the seat of their pants.
>>220817198megaflopolis was the result of coppola being unable to properly sell a project for 40 years and being convinced he still had something special to show (he didn't, the movie is rancid trash kek). george was surrounded by yes men and idiots beneath him because when he first started working on the prequels, nobody in hollywood wanted to touch star wars. the man actively sought others to direct while he would just write, produce and edit as he did on empire and jedi, and he got nothing but "sorry can't do it i'm busy" or "you know what you want so you should just do it" and ultimately was left with no choice but to do more himself. it's almost a pj hobbit situation except george didn't have gdt bail on him.
>>220816745you're so hardcore
>>220817283If he made it in 2001 it would have been memorable when he had a great cast but 9/11 fucked him over
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>>220809491>cheap looking and the action could be betterSounds like ass
>>220817148The prequel movies are rancid dogshito and not canon, the few stellar arcs of the clone wars cartoon are canon though
>>220816730Disney slop service over one single day, this just proves the fans this ip still has and are stupid enough to keep giving Disney money are fundamentally retarded, you fucking moronic shitskin mouse shill
>>220809319Star wars was never that good, it has always been an industry plant but nowadays people have more freedom and choices to enjoy other, actual good and interesting stories
>>220816700They don't like the prequel movies, just your shitty forced reddit memes, which is even worse
>>220817371he started shopping it in the 80s anon, well before 9/11. 9/11 only caused him to initially decide to change the ending, which he then chose not to do and stuck with what he originally wrote.>>220817542>it has always been an industry plantschizoposter go
>>220809319So fucking what, OP?
>>220809319ALL CAPS I got your attention. This post is gay.
>>220817600>he started shopping it in the 80s anon, well before 9/11I am aware anon and he had a shot pre covid too. My point is 9/11 had the best cast anon but pretty much any project that put NYC in a negative light was cancelled after that
I've got years worth of EU material I still haven't looked at yet so I don't care. Let Disney's garbage wither into dust.
>>220817680megalopolis doesn't put new york in a bad light. he just tried to change the ending so it wasn't another 9/11 type incident. but remember at this point studios told him no for 20 years because it was just a bad script and a stupid, pointless story. granted i'm sure older versions were better because they didn't have constant rewrites and improvisations made by the cast on the days of shooting to the point that half the crew walked off.
>>220817834>megalopolis doesn't put new york in a bad lightBad light as in NYC was decaying. I lived in NYC during 9/11 you couldn't play any movie featuring NYC at all for months. I remember the local news threw a shit for when one of the local affiliates tried to play Independence Day. Stop being autistic.
>>220816441lmfao at you niggers pulling this revisionist bullshit like all the prequel bitching and RLM fags deepthroating disney wars for years didn't bring us to this point.Disney open its crusted anus and you fuckers couldn't get enough.Well congrats, you gen x cocksuckers proved you're as bad as the boomers except you didn't even get paid for it.
>>220809319It's not even Star Wars though. It's a side character special.
>>220817967it says Star Wars in the title tho
>>220817900i mean nyc was a shithole in the 90s that was barely starting to recover, it wasn't until after 9/11 that things really started to clean up. and no, those films still played on tv, but filming in the city was delayed due to clean up and concerns, hence men in black 2 and spider-man being delayed to allow for reshoots. ps i live on the island so i was just down the road from you lol.
>>220817987You are going off tangent and arguing for the sake of arguing now. He movie got pulled because of 9/11 and had arguably the best cast of all iterations. This is objective fact.
>>220818014i didn't disagree with that, i said that was the contributing factor to his decision to change the ending, he was still going to make the film. it also wasn't ever fully greenlit, that was the point when he first said "fuck it i'll do it anyway" and had some b-footage of rome and manhattan shot.
>>220818047>i didn't disagree with thatgood so our discussion is done so that was my only point
>>220809491Damn disney still sends brown shills here, you gotta admire the dedication
>>220809319disney has forcibly moved the entire star wars ecosystem into its app, disney +, and everyone who watches knows they will put the movie on there eventually, so i think their customer base is literally just waiting, why pay $50 to go see a movie when you can just watch it in a month on the app you already have that they are guaranteed to release it oni think its just a case of the streaming service walled garden business model coming back to bite them in the ass when they try to release work outside of it. i dont think it actually has anything to do with how good or bad the movie is
>>220818112critics don't care for it at all, audience reception is fairly positive. then again, most positive reception for the movie starts with "i had no expectations because mando s3 was ass" so it shows they legitimately expected a pile of shit and were surprised at the memberberries and sigourney weaver.
>>220818148i dont think critic reviews really have much influence on what people watch anymore, critic score and audience score are often complete opposites, especially in the age where people have already spent years being invested in a franchise
>>220816745>>Look mom, I posted it again! I'm so hecking edgy! Uh, what's up guys?! Oh no, please don't give me a wedgie, my micro-testicles are already too torn! Oh please, I'm going to suck your cocks like my hero Homelander! Save me, Epstein!
mandalorian and grogu
>Cucklorian and NOT little YodaDie already.
>>220818216no critic scores only matter when you're either defending or attacking a film. personally i don't go by either critic or audience scores anymore, i simply see it for myself if i think it's worth watching to begin with. i'm still on the fence about paying to even see this movie, on one hand i want it to fail so that furloni is forced to make kino, but i also want to see it to get it over with and talk to friends about it.
>>220818112also wanted to mention that yeah d+ is definitely biting into the profits of the film. if the 45 day theatrical window can be extended again, films will have better lifespans in theaters because people will know it'll be months before it's available online anywhere.
>>220809319Most people who go to the movies are actually zoomers now and they're into more original shit by young filmmakers like Backrooms and Obsession. The older generations were the ones watching all the franchise reboot slop that Hollywood churns out, and those people are either indifferent to those franchises now like Star Wars or they watch movies on their TV only. Now is really the time for Hollywood to go back to the 90s era where it had new young filmmakers making good original shit.
>>220809319>Star Wars is fucking dead.good
>>220811213mogged by boomer clamation from 10000 years ago
>>220809319>Nikki kills Star Warsbased
>>220818444fishing for a get with a bunch of bullshitzoomers don't watch movies, they don't have the attention spans, they watch livestreams with live chat interactions
>>220809319Disney doesn't understand making movies is like making anything, the more there is the less value it holds.
>>220818727BullshitI am a zoomer and the majority of my friends are movie enjoyers who go to the cinema
>>220818759quality, not quantity, is the issue here. there are 25 zatoichi films and all of them kino. the ones that come after are slop because they fly in the face of what made the old canon so good, and just have dumb decisions. i will never forgive beat's film having the worst possible twist to ruin an otherwise fine film.
>>220815443>Their loss.Cope tranny
>>220818234Go take a trip to galaxy's edge shill.
>>220818727Straight up just false. Young people are the majority of moviegoers
>>220809696The sequels made 4.5 billion worldwide. A few video essays saying Star Wars is dead doesn’t make it true.
>>220818903NTA but you're right, but he's also right about the attention span and phone usage. Kane's YouTube series worked since videos were 5 minutes to 20 minutes in length usually and this movie is already known for being an extremely slow burn.
>>220811213I think this scene would have been celebrated if they used puppetry instead of CG slop. A big factor in the DNA of Star Wars is having puppet aliens and model spaceships, which has been forgotten in the eons since the prequels first released and set SW down the path of CG everything.
It's almost like watching a guy who barely talks and a fucking handpuppet isn't that interesting
>>220818948Lucas also fucking with the orignal movies in the 90s didn't help either. The entire bar scene in Return was entirely puppets in the original version of the movie for example. I remember seeing those movies on VHS when I was a kid in the 90s and thinking "wow the music and the special effects look like it could've been made today" without realizing I was already seeing fucked with versions of the movies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDRgDmXGi4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w25pcTIFlQNot that either version is better though, I hated the the movie and still consider it a hard watch to this day.
I liked the TV-show but when they announced Jabba's son would be in it, I was out
imagine posting this on /x/ and someone steals your shit bc no namelol and makes bank
>>220818938yeah they made 4.5 billion but barely took home half of that when you look at how much it cost to make each sequel and what the ROI factor was (paltry in comparison to the prequels and originals)the force awakens made $2 billion on a budget of about $500 million. that's a return yield of 4x. that's dogshit lmao. the last jedi cost $300 million and made $1.3 billion, that's also a return yield of 4x, still dogshit but slightly better since the film was cheaper to make. rise of skywalker cost about the same as farce engorges and barely cleared a billion, return yield of 2.5x, that's even worse and technically a flop or just breaking even lol.meanwhile even the lowest grossing prequel (clones) still had a return yield of 4.5x, which was not great compared to phantom menace but still better than all of the sequel trilogy. phantom menace and revenge of the sith both had minimum return yields of 6x. that's what a profit should look like.i won't bother getting into the return yields of the originals because those numbers are significantly higher. like you have to divide 11 into 440, and the result is the return yield for the first film. the other two have similar results.also don't get me started on disney+ metrics, everything on that platform is a flop (except mando s1), more people are watching the prequels than any of the nuslop.
>>220809491Watch the RLM review.
>>220819016as were most of us>>220819111watch the reviews that lampoon other idiot reviewers? no thanks.
>>220809931I received a ban for quoting homelander on a movies sub
>>220819111Are you incapable of thinking for yourself?
>>220809319youtubers and 4chan shitposts now get more assess in cinemas than star wars lmao
>>220809319Wait not even Blorpus showing up saved it?
>>220811233You weren't even aware of his existence before seeing that post. So no, you didn't.
>>220810771I'd rather watch Grunglemand and Binkus
>>220811213Wait a fucking minute.. is this more member berries? Did they seriously design this whole fucking scene around the chess board on the falcon? What the absolute fuck are they doing at disney
Star Wars tonal whiplash challenge (impossible)The first act of Mandalorian & Grogu is great. I thought we were in for a punchy, well-paced hunt down the Nazi fugitives movie.Second act is kinda mid, too much monster CGIThird act with its Grogu & Baba Frik bullshit ruined the entire movie. Then the most shoehorned in X-Wing battle ever to top it off, because they needed to give Sigourney Weaver something to do
>>220809364>there were six people in the theater totaland 4 of them were me.t. weighs 600lbs
>>220819522yes anoni said it earlier in this thread, there are no innovative filmmakers currently working at lucasfilm. someone who understands george's style is what the company needs, instead you get jon favreau with his random memberberries. it's stupid because the mandalorian is chock full of these but it was handled much better then, like the barbecue salacious crumb, that was hilarious.
>>220809491It's not getting any 'hate'. Everyone simply says what you said,>it is not that badThe problem is that's not good enough for a series that defined 'box office phenomenon'. The series that made movies the biggest thing in the world, that was the best thing in the world to literally like a billion people. A movie coming out from that brand that is "not THAT bad" is not enough to fix the ones that were bad and turn a stained, resented 'new owners' era of a thing into something people like again. Which means of course it got passed by a random youtube movie because if the brand is dead then the movie has to compete on its own merits which as you said, aren't anything much even if it's not horrible. The rest of movies coming out aren't horrible either and now it's just one of them
>>220811213Why does this cgi/cinematography look worse than the geonosis arena scene from over 20 years ago?
>>220819499Kek
>>220809491The conversation around Star Wars is insanely toxic. Disney converted a significant portion of the fanbase who loved Star Wars into people who now actively work against its success. TLJ is going to go down as one of the most disastrous and alienating sequels ever, even worse than Highlander II.
>>220819605it's the animations, there's a weird attempt to make the monsters mimic their chessboard hologram counterparts, despite being real beasts this time around. also idk if it's the framerate or just a slow animation but when not-jabba throws the thing it goes obscenely slow.
>>220819642The irony is that the literal stop motion animation in this movie looks so much better than the CGI. We've gone full circle into CGI garbage.
>>220819647yeah well that's what happens when you hire 200 jeets for the summer
>>220811213I wouldn't watch this shit for free and you tell me there's people who pay for that?
>>220816045Has any major series survived the fan antagonism - brand destruction phase? I feel like it's really hard to come out of it once the public sees the franchise as toxic.
>>220812512>Cake is a lie
>>220809364They were probably just watching it so they can shit on it on youtube or tik tok for views later.
>>220816353thats literally reddlettermedia, /tv/ favorite reviews, criticism of the movie.i stand by my point the only people who for some reason hate on this movie loved the force awakens with its race mixing and girlboss protagonist
>>220819111i did and its an absolute dogshit review if you actually saw the movie. the movie actually picks up again after a boring middle once they got to the forest planetbaby yeed meeting the forest hermit was my favorite part of the movie.
>>220809364This has been my experience for most movies post covid. Unfortunately I still get some random loud fucks or the women that pull out their phones mid movie.
>>220809672>1999 was barely ten years agobased, god i wish that was true
>>220813363I have repeatedly said - and we almost got it with the Mando show - that they need to just take For a Few Dollars More and shove it into the SW universe with Boba Fett and IG-88.Now I just want ther franchise to die and hopefully this movie puts it one step closer.
>>220809364>I went to see mandalorianWhat a faggot
>>220809319I thought this little nigga was called Yeed?
>>220809491After turning the mandalorian show into the womandalorian, they don't deserve a second chance in my opinion.Why would they? Think about it.>Make product, customers like it>Change product to shit on current customer base and to try and get a different customer base>New product doesn't sell>Remake first product "Fiiiiine, here's your original product, original customer, ugh!">Expect original customer to keep consuming product??It's like you don't live in reality or something, it's literally game theory
>>220809319Baby Yeet, let's fn go! Stay mad Star Wars chuds. You'll never be happy.
>>220809319>>220809491>its 2 episodes of a TV show>disney wants me to spend 100$ and my whole day to watch this yeah no. Mandalorian was ok in season 1-2 and thats it. >pedo pascalyeah no.
>>220809491This is how I felt about Solo and that permanently altered the course of the franchise because it bombed.
>>220817912>meltyThinking people thought highly of the prequels is revisionism btw. Even south park dragged the movies through the mud. Now try and argue their popularity without using marketing hype.
>>220819099If you can put hundreds of millions of dollars into something and get 2.5x-4x the return in a few years, that's good
>>220810771>women can't be funn-
is that the girl from From?
>>220816441>The old fans are probably gone for good.After the shit they pulled (and still are) good riddance i say
>>220809319been since 2017
>>220821589>marketing hypeThere is none in the post you responded to. Redditlettermedia softballed nuwars as much as they possibly could for years when they're obviously significantly worse than the prequels, this is a fact.
>>220822149The damage was done with TFA. TLJ is a little more openly spiteful but there was no way to salvage the world they (barely) tried to set up in tfa.
>>220822817t. contrarian retard
>>220811233>the toy side reported that Disney will hold your Spider-Mans, Iron Mans, and Captain Americas hostage if you don't also buy the slops>b-but there's no way Disney would ever pull something so shady when it comes to movie tickets, you chud!
>>220809319>Star Wars is fucking dead.Good. It means the Gen X brats are finally acting like adults, doing important things like posting about politics on Facebook.
>>220809491It's a made for TV movie in cinemas and you're even admitting it you fucking retard. That's enough to hate it. It should be streamingslop not a feature. >hurr durr but they didn't absolutely fuck it up and insert some woman to show the male lead how Girls Get It DoneThis is your argument for why it's a good movie? Are you retarded?
>>220819535Got a good giggle from me mate
>>220823108Not at all, TFA makes the previous six movies completely pointless in the laziest way possible, and has pretty much the same dogshit characters. It's a different sort of movie, but if you had hope it would improve after watching it you're the retard.
>>220823628If you had hope any sequel could improve on it after watching it*
>>220809491>a bit cheap looking and the action could be betterThen what's even the point of watching it?
>>220809491>the criticism i have heard for the new movie were seriously "there isn't a girlboss in it " and "the male lead is to competent"The Star Wars brand has been tarnished so badly that Kathleen Kennedy has to personally go on 4chan threads to make up lies about her movie being based. What a shame
>>220822798RLM didn't softball anything. They're retarded Trekkies. They LOVE dogshit. They thought Flopiosa was one of the best films of all time.
>>220810771This womans post single handidly destroyed the film, say something nice about her
>>220809491>overhatedYou wish enough people watched it to form a consensus opinion
>>220811213This is what we're sending to compete against AI slop
When Kathleen Kennedy dies I hope her punishment for her life is being forced to read every star wars thread ever made on /tv/ since TFA came out
>>220815443Shill >>220809491Still not going to see your Yidsney Slop Wars, you filthy kike shill
>>220824094>This womans post single handidly destroyed the film, say something nice about herDisney will sue her.
>>220810204lol. It didn't. Disney was pushing Bree Larson as the new face of marvel movies, HARD.And this movie was released during thr merger with Fox.So Disney was highly motivated to make their big star and new movie look good, on paper.Disney bought out entire theaters. People were posting pics of "sold out" theaters that were completely empty.
>>220818536>Star Wars stop motion Hell yeah. Phil Tippet is awesome. Right up there with Ray Harryhausen
>>220819605directed by jon fatvreau
>>220813913Good. Eat shit rat kike faggot shill
>>220809319Has been for a long time.
>>220818536>>220824405>>220819647The stop motion animation in Star Wars was overflowing with SOUL!
>>220809319Very presumptuous of them to assume I have Disney Plus or have seen The Mandalorian
>>220809491It's pointless. It's not bad in terms of just being general cgi slop and it doesn't hate star wars or the audience like the equals but its a boring fetch quest story that should have been the slop episodes of a streaming movie. It doesn't have a reason to be a movie.