>Mr. Adams, at this moment I have armed and fed 600 men from my own private fortune and plan to match to Boston and liberate the city from the bongolian menace. I will then slaughter them to the last bong, including the bongettes and the small bongs so that no bongistani ever taint my beloved American soil with his foul bong stenchI'm watching that John Adams show with Paul Giamatti for the 250th anniversary, what did Washington mean by this?
>>221040135Just wait until Hamilton starts talking about how America needs to gas all French babies.
>Schoolhouse Rock Washington: I love my brave Valley Forge soldiers, together we will fight for freedom!>Real Washington: Holy shit these are the most incompetent retards I've ever commanded in my life
>>221040135Washington had klinefelters and the autism. This is why he married a single mother roastie and turned down the chance to be KING of the United States
>>221040135Is it true the first election was rigged and Adams actually won?
>>221040135He saves children. But not the british children. https://youtu.be/qv6OOuPI5c0?si=kE1dAD5m5c055iaG
>>221040135Not watching, ser.Marathoning.
FRENCH MILF BUSH
>>221040546Franklin was a certified GMILF enjoyer.
>>221040430
>>221040430Wait, Hamilton was actually based? I thought he was a faggot based on the musical >>221040497Washington was a great man and a genius. that's why he freed us from the bongistanis and REFUSED to be king>>221040507no. Washington was going to win no matter what, they created the presidency for Washington, but they were worried the anti federalists were going to use the retarded ass voting system they had at the time where the winner is president and 2nd place is VP to make Adams get 1 more vote than Washington so states would pull out of the constitution because no one liked Adams. The rigging was specifically to fuck over Washington and then hamilton reverse rigged it to fuck Adams
>>221040497>turned down the chance to be KING of the United States Unironically the greatest thing he ever did and the sole reason the country didn't completely disintegrate within its first 50 years of existence.
>>221040598His resignation of his command of the Army was purely magnanimous to the point where all his officers, hard ass veteran soldiers and powerful, monied, and influential men, began to weep in public. >country didn't completely disintegrate within its first 50 years of existence.The country was broke, the Ohio Valley was Americas on paper but still populated by various native tribes AND British military bases that simply refused to leave, the states were all at each others throats, and a civil war broke out. Veterans who were taxed to death by a policy by Hamilton started a rebellion that the various state militias couldnt quell. Washington, as sitting President, had to lead the Federal Army out into the field to squash it. In ANY other situation where a revolution leads to a new government, and then some reactionary peasant revolt happens, the new regime ALWAYS just goes full panic mode and mass murders them (See Lenin or the French Revoluion) but Washington didnt. Shays Rebellion was put down with little to no more blood shed and instead of killing them all, Washington made sure pretty much all the leaders were let off with a slap on the wrist at most because while he wouldnt tolerate their insurrection, he empathized with their desperate position and respected their service as enlisted men during the Revolutionary War. He really is one of the greatest men to have ever lived.
>>221040737>PicrelI've been in that room. Maryland Statehouse.
>>221040578That's a jewish psyop. Hamilton was fueled by hatred and spite for anything non-Colonial.
>>221040737>shay's rebellion>total deaths, 9
I don't get why americans were so upset with the brits. Tariffs? It seems something else was going on there we don't know about.At that point in history americans thought of themselves as brits. Australia was for instance much further out and never fought like that.Alien tech found? Templars?
>>221040467Thats why he spent a winter drilling their candy asses to operate like soldiers.
>>221040853Open a book.
>>221040853Zero seats in parliament, revenue not being reinvested locally. That's about it.
>>221040135I'm visiting Boston on 4th of July week, any reccomendations? Might pop into Salem on the 4th because I know they have a phenomenal fireworks show with live orchestra
>>221040871>revenue not being reinvested locallyBut that doesn't track since the colonies saw rapid growth anyway.
>>221040853>>221040871>I don't get why americans were so upset with the brits.we had just fought a war where a bunch of Americans died and the bongs gave all the land we took back to the french and told us we had to pay for the war and gave us no representation in government and then when we protested they shot us and dissolved home rule that we had had for a century and installed a british governor. Like the Battle of Lexington and Concord happened because the Britsh Governor Gage was seizing powder and he sent his men to go seize canons we stole and had hidden in Concord
>>221040578>Hamilton was actually based?the real hamilton was, yes. i particularly enjoyed The Examination VIII that he wrote in 1802 in which he rants about how foreigners destroy america and the only way to guarantee our future is to remain racially homogenous and mandate assimilation. it still boggles the mind when reading the things the founding fathers wrote why they didn't codify more of it into the constitution, knowing that not doing so would in their own words pose an existential threat to the nation in the future.
>>221040853>bongs tell the colonies to stop expanding west >do it anyway >start the seven years war >bongs try to put taxes on tea and stamps to make some money back They resisted manifest destiny.
>>221040923why were british so cluless?if they played it right and integrated the colonies in their kingdom proper they could've ruled the world to this day
>>221040910It's not really the 4th of July, but you can see the old chuch tower where they hung the one if by land 2 of by sea and see battle road where the bongs matched to lexinton and concord and then tried to retreat back while the patriots were shooting them and bacon hill
>>221040922there were local taxes being used on local things like bridges and churches before 1775. It's just that the bongs demanded we pay them back for the french indian war and they gave a bunch of land the Boston troops took back to the french. Like there was some island boston invaded and it was just given back to the french canadians
>>221040946>why were british so cluless?it took 1-2 months for information to travel back and forth at the time.
>>221040923>be america >start a world war >british ask you help pay for it >"No.">now the only thing any american remembers about it is maybe the time the french fought the indians... or something
>>221040972>>221040922>>221040871>>221040853It's fucking thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Louisbourg_(1745)1,000 New Englanders died taking this island and then the bongs just gave it back to the frogs and then told the New Englanders they had to pay taxes to pay for the war.
>>221040135And this was his even more historically significant descendant.
>>221040467>Real Washington: Holy shit these are the most incompetent retards I've ever commanded in my lifeIsn't Washington himself a retard that just got lucky? His entire military career was retardation. His first command was the most retarded a man has ever retarded.
>>221040853>It seems something else was going on there we don't know about. No, the reasons are actually very well documented and it's not just trade restrictions.1. The Quebec Act. This granted a significant amount of land in the "Northwest" (modern day Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, and Michigan) to the province of Quebec, which the colonist felt deprived them of their own land claims (look up historical colonial land claims, it's hilarious, Virginia basically claimed everything in a straight line west all the way to the Mississippi). 2. It also granted religious freedom to Catholics, which angered the hardcore protestants in the 13 colonies. 3. Britain taking a more active role in governance of the colonies. Prior to the Seven Years War (aka the French and Indian War if you went to public school in the US), London was largely hands off, but with the costs of the war and the new acquisition of territory in North America, Parliament started taking a more active role in the administration of the colonies, which annoyed pretty much everyone in America at every rung of the social ladder for a variety of reasons. 4. And this is more petty, but the elites in the colonies who would have otherwise been amenable to a peaceful resolution with Westminster found themselves disrespected/snubbed by England. There's an infamous incident where Ben Franklin went into a meeting with the king's ministers in London, thinking he was going to have a discussion about policy, only to be berated and insulted in terms so harsh the stenographers refused to write down exactly what was said. It seems silly but in an era where honor mattered a ton these kinds of insults went a long way.
>>221040954Old North Church right? I'll give it a visit, as well as the other things you reccomended
>>221040853The Brits were a bunch of libtards and had constant TDS.
>>221040927I'll have to read that. it's funny they didn't add more safeguards because all of the guys still alive when Jackson was elected fucking seethed over him >>221040946bongs are not smart people>>221040935they also gave back a lot of land we too, there was an earlier bong french war in like the 1740s that we had to fight. one of the guys who killed at least 2 bongs at patriots day was a royal dragoon in King Philip's war or whatever 1740s war. Allegedly at age 70 something he took his musket, 2 pistols and a sword he took off dead frogs and shot 3 redcoats and then he got bayoneted and shot like 30 times when he tried to draw his sword to fight them. then bystanders dragged him back to his home where a doctor said he was going to die but he lived 20 more years and ALLEGIDLY fathered like 30 more kids by as many women
>>221041031>Isn't Washington himself a retard that just got lucky?He was a pretty mediocre general. But I wouldn't call him a retard, he wasn't incompetent. Just not particularly exceptional in any way. Had he been born in the UK, he might have been a colonel or something.>>221040946They badly misread the whole situation and IMO they didn't really take it seriously until things were already out of control. Half the reason we defeated them at Saratoga (which is what convinced the French to join, which is ultimately why we won) is that General Burgoyne was a dumbass who thought the whole thing was a big party and had running bets with other officers about how fast he'd crush the rebellion. If you teleport 1815 Wellington back to 1777, I don't think the United States exists today.
>>221041146My admittedly cursory study of British history suggests they had very few Wellingtons and a great many Elphinstones.
>>221040927>it still boggles the mind when reading the things the founding fathers wrote why they didn't codify more of it into the constitutionSimilar to the religious question, there was just enough friction and potential for conflict that the founding fathers decided to bypass it entirely. Which in hindsight makes them look like geniuses and progressive paragons, even if they almost certainly didn't actually intend that lol
>>221040995bongs should have gotten the frogs out of our swamp. Also that was like the 3rd or 4th new world war that century. there was one in the 1740s too >>221041031>>221041146Washington wasn't the best US general at actually winning battles but he was extraordinary in his ability to keep his men together and get them to retreat and not to give the bongs a decisive victory. at one point a bunch of his officers planned to turn traitor and he told them he was disappointed in them and they decided not to. No one else would have had the shear force of will to keep the starving, cold, unpaid army together.It's like how Ike couldn't do Patton's job and Patton couldn't do Ike's job
>Muh god damned tooth
six foot eight weighs a fucking ton
Ok Boomer
>>221041174Historical naval power, doesn't exactly produce a lot of great generals. Same reason Napoleonic France was so incompetent at sea even while they had like 19 of the top 20 generals alive on land.>>221041204Exactly, in a lot of ways Washington was a better political leader than general even before formally becoming president. You can be a great general, but if you don't have that ability to keep everyone onboard after a setback you're fucked. Just ask Pompey or Mark Antony.
>>221041063yeah. battle road goes all the way out to the old north bridge past concord town too
>>221040135They really made adams out to be such a bitch in this show
>>221040927>it still boggles the mind when reading the things the founding fathers wrote why they didn't codify more of it into the constitution, knowing that not doing so would in their own words pose an existential threat to the nation in the future.Teddy Roosevelt's last speech was about the need to preserve homogeneity and prioritize the English language over foreign tongues. It is sad that they were able to foresee the distant future but unable to prevent it.
>>221041269>mfw
>>221040946>>221041146>>221041174>They badly misread the whole situation and IMO they didn't really take it seriously until things were already out of control. Half the reason we defeated them at Saratoga (which is what convinced the French to join, which is ultimately why we won) is that General Burgoyne was a dumbass who thought the whole thing was a big party and had running bets with other officers about how fast he'd crush the rebellion. If you teleport 1815 Wellington back to 1777, I don't think the United States exists today.The bongs also kept doing stupid shit like going after Lafyette. There were multiple times where Washington sent Lafyette off with a small detachment while retreating in a different direction with the main army and the bongs went after Lafyette because they wanted to capture him and ransom him off to france
>>221040497Martha was a fox for a bit though
>>221041231he's coming he's coming he's coming
>watching show>founder fathers were based as fuckwhere did it all go wrong burger bros? t. SEA monkey
>>221041345a jewish senator changed our immigration laws to let in brown thirdies in 1965
>>2210413451992. Fuck Ross Perot.
>>221041269you mean based
>>221041345The second the first baby boomer was born it was all downhill
>>221041269He’s obnoxious and disliked
>>221041387I have heard.
>>221041281Teddy Roosevelt also invited a black man to dinner with his family at the White House, which caused such a massive backlash from insecure white racists that no president had the balls to do it again until the 1940s. He was definitely racist, but it was more of an "enlightened" sort of cultural racism. The man himself was ethnically Dutch.
>>221040946Parliament spent the previous 150 years gaining power at the expense of the king and the people and was not willing to share any of it.
>>221040135Based George.
>>221041508Ted was born in california. also why post an delete this?
>>221041537>He was definitely racist, but it was more of an "enlightened" sort of cultural racism.you know he wrote about this right? He was a >white man's burdenchad who believe it was up to the white man to fix the nonwhites
>>221041539Also, sheer numbers means that if Parliament gave representation to the colonies like they were asking, sooner or later the UK would functionally be ruled from New York/Philadelphia, with Britain on the periphery, similar to what happened with Brazil and Portugal in the 19th century. I think it's the same reason why the British never properly integrated Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, those countries combined would be enough to outweigh every voter in Great Britain.
>>221041358>Reddit soi face
>>221041264Sweet, that's also stuff from the Fallout game right? My girlfriend really wants to see it, bought her one of the premium pip-boys and she made her own vault jumpsuit that she plans to wear and I don't want her to be dissapointed
>>221041537reddit historian here
>>221041636>you know he wrote about this right?Yes, that's why I said it. >white man's burdenAgain, yes. A pretty popular position among more progressive types of the era. They point to Booker T Washington or Alexandre Dumas as an example of how "the negro could be civilized". Still pretty racist, but much better than his peers and I think his heart was in the right place in a very twisted way.
>>221040927there were too many germans in america already for it to have ever worked
>>221040954>bacon hillAmerica is not a real place. Next thing you'll tell me there is a burger valley or something.
>>221041665I never played fallout but google says it's in fallout 4>>221041750>>221040954>>221040910It's supposed to be beacon hill. There was a battle called >the battle of bunker hillbut took place on breeds hill but I confused it with beacon hill and wrote bacon hill Bunker hill and breeds hill are right next to each other
>>221041269he was widely hated, even in his own time
>>221041269>angry all the fucking time because he's the only one doing any actual workUnderstandable, frankly.
>>221040497If you could see the cabbages I have planted here with my own hands, you surely would never have thought to request this.
>>221040135Imagine if a modern Amerimutt man of means got 300 men and stormed the ufc White House event, killing Trump w Netanyahu and doing a coup. Would be awesome. But modern Amerimutts are goycattle so they wont do shit. 2a only exists to outfit trannies and other miscellaneous leftists and shitskins with rifles. (Its the right for mentally ill freaks and niggers to have machine guns BUT DONT USE GUNS TO KILL EVIL PEDOS!)
>>221040737A real human bean and a real hero
>>221040507The people who hated the Constitution tried to rig it for Adams but Alexander Hamilton counter rigged it by getting the Federalists to not vote for him. Adams still won the vice presidency as expected but he got way less votes than he was expecting and seethed about it for the rest of his life.
>>221042510And then Hamilton rigged 1800, which led to Jefferson getting elected while Hamilton got shot and Adams got to see his son become president.
>>221042234Washington also fucking loved farming logistics
>>221042566Early America was a funny place. A comedy series set between 1789 and 1812 would be kino.
>>221042305Hello glownigger
>>221042305>angry thirdie tries to shit up a Washington threadwe get it, you have no guns and you have no balls since you are a third world slave race. >>221042363Washington was unironically one of the greatest men in the history of the world. Who else could have lead the US to victory against the bongs, kept the nation together through 2 terms and then REFUSE to be crowned king?
>>221042566>>221042708Like Death of Stalin but a TV show?
>>221042778>Who else could have lead the US to victory against the bongs, kept the nation together through 2 terms and then REFUSE to be crowned king?I did that last week, it was pretty easy. I don't see what the big deal is.
>>221042510So America's just been riggers and niggers since the very beginning?
>>221042778A cynical part of me thinks Washington did it because being a god of enlightenment virtue sounded cooler than being a two bit dictator. >>221042815Oh yeah. As fucked up as things are now, American elections are WAY less rigged than they used to be.
>>221042510That's not entirely accurate. They were genuinely concerned Washington wouldn't win outright, so they rigged the shit out of it by fucking with the electors. Adams never fully got over it, since he knew he wasn't going to win but didn't expect to get utterly btfo like he was (which wasn't accurate in the slightest).
>>221042890>no he was good because he wanted to be remembered as good
>>221041877Thank you for the vacay advice anon
>>221040530Oh yeah!
>>221040135I like that Washington was letting Hamilton and Jefferson argue for the soul of the nation, Adams came in with his wishy washy bullshit, and Washington called for a cabinet meeting and told Adams to fuck off.
>>221043405no problem
>>221041694>They point to Booker T Washington or Alexandre Dumas as an example of how "the negro could be civilized".Both mulattos btw.
>>221040497>WashingtonI just can't wait to not be king
>>221042890>As fucked up as things are nowAre they? Did Drumpf find proof he won in 2020 yet? Or is he waiting to announce it in 2024 so he can actually steal an election?
>>221040598>>221040737Washington was a pussy for not becoming king. Now we're ruled by a bunch of CEOs, half of whom aren't even from the US.
>>221044039>>221044108fuck off back to your containment board, yurothirdie
>>221044177These are your kings now, anon, and none of them received a single vote.
>>221044243we get it, you're a thirdie
if the usa remained a british colony and apart from that developed pretty much exactly the same as in real life would the british government move the capital there?
>>221044251How's that pajeet cock taste?
>>221044251Like Musk and Vivek, Trump's best friends?
>>221044292you tell me>>221044352musk and vivek should be deported for being jeets. zordon as well
>>221040737He was an evil man and a murderer and a traitor and a slaveownerHe was literally the worst man in historyHitler was inspired by him and the world was ruined because of him and his actions
>>221044269I think that happened in an episode of Sliders. The capital of the British Empire was Cleveland, Ohio or something like that.
Sex with that Brazilian girl for the purposes of pro-creatingOr is this the wrong thread?
>>221044767Also, I think a revolution was brewing in that timeliness but was kicked off by the old professor dude rewriting the declaration of independence from memory.
>>221040546>>221040563How can I be himhttps://youtu.be/JouE7mOVdI4?si=2ZHufAW3nVIE_40U
>>221041269The scene of him losing his shit about the London newspapers is greathttps://youtu.be/AMRVrNMrnfk?si=NXL1KDLbsHAPIlyK
>>221040853The war was sparked by a few dozen lawyers and businessmen upset over lost revenue and impounded smuggler ships. By means of agitation, pamphleteering and fiery rhetoric - "taxation without representation", "liberty or death", etc - they were able to convince the common man to become involved against his own interests. The thousands who died in battle, or froze to death at Valley Forge were ultimately fighting for the personal enrichment of societal elites of New England.
>>221045730At it always is. “Revolutions” never come from the people but are actually bourgeoisie vs aristocracy
>>221040135>just be a murderous traitor to your king and country bro>>221040578>REFUSED to be kingHe refused to be king because just like Cromwell he was a faggot freethinker who thinks people should be """equal""" which is why he became a traitor and insurgent in the first placeAmerimutts worship the libtards of their time lmao.
>>221040507All elections are rigged
>>221040853>It seems something else was going on there we don't know about.Deism. Religious thinking is at the root of political thought. Therefore, while catholics want an absolute king with divine right, protestants want a powerful parliament with a mix of nobles and commoners and a cucked king, while deists and atheists want no king at all, no religious influence and no nobility at all.Therefore to American faggots who were into deism and all other sorts of faggoty freethinking having a king and nobility is itself very repugnant and cause for revolt.
>>221040935>>221040995I see the perfidious anglo is still doing the routine where they pretend Washington was acting as a rogue agent in how he dealt with the french forts in the Ohio River Valley and ignoring that he was operating under the orders of the British-born Governor of Virginia. Just admit that you should've had a game plan to properly integrate your culturally british colonies. Maybe then you wouldn't be a failed state today.
>>221041031No. That’s retarded. He was more like Eisenhower and had to step in to prevent his lower guys from getting slaughter in direct combat. You have to go over his life to understand what he was. Simply put by 25 he was a General in the English army because he was that good and knew how to fight. Everyone around him kept failing and couldn’t fight in the American jungle.No. That’s some commie propaganda m. The morherfucker was a trained general by 25. Anyone who says he was battle at battles is a fucking idiot. He rarely directed battles directly as well. The only time he’d command a battle is if he could most likely win. I repeat. He was so good at command the British who viewed Americans as a second clsss feral people. MADE HIM A FUCKING GENERAL BY 25, HE WAS A SAVANT IN WARFARE IT WOULD BE LIKE AMERICANS LIKE ME MAKING SOME RANDOM AFGHAN GOATFUCKER A FULL ADMIRAL AND GIVING HIM A CARRIER FLEET AT 25 AND HED WIN JESUS CHRIST WOULD THIS WASHINGTON LOST MORE BATTLES THAN HE WON BULLSHIT DIE OFF NOW
>>221046586The British made him a general for his actions and pretend he fucked up still 250 years later lolIt’s ridiculous. Then foreigners pretend they know he wasn’t a good leader but don’t know he was basically a general at napoleon’s level by 25. It’s like “ahaha well did you know x secret about Washington I read this in state propaganda YouTube” Washington was a savant at war. Even the British 250 years ago knew it and they made him a general by 25.
I mean literally everyone pre and post revolution knew Washington was a savant at warFrench were terrified and called him a savage mad scalper and put hits on him, natives called him civilization ender and city taker, Brit’s made him a general at 25, Caribs knew not to fuck around even the Barbary pirates knew don’t fuck around with Washington around. Everyone got the message He would fight you and win
>>221040135Crazy to think Elon Musk could do something similar with a few thousand SpaceX marines.
>>221040135What was the Continental Army like?I've mostly heard that they lost most battles but won because they just didn't give up.
>>221040430Why would he say that?
>>221045454the guy who played the autistic king was great
>>221044243>>221044251Pick your poison. Republics are plutocracies with good PR, true, but Washington being crowned king wouldn't be a magic perfect end. I believe King Washington could've kept the nation together as well as President Washington did. Problem is he died heirless. Immediate succession crisis. Even if we found a good heir without a civil war or balkanization, the United States, coming from the English tradition especially after the civil war, would have a limited constitutional monarch. As we see in England, those can easily become captive figureheads designed to rubber stamp whatever the oligarchs desire. It's not a gurantee you avoid the worst parts of modern America. Not to mention, many of the oligarchs of early America came from aristocratic backgrounds themselves, even if the elitist homeland didn't regard them as such. Maryland's flag was the heraldry of Lord Baltimore. Even into the early 20th century many of the proper Old Money families styled themselves as informal nobility, noblesse oblige (grand acts of charity such as funding public infrastructure and medical aid) and all. I say this as an American with royalist sympathies. I fear we've missed our window to pivot like the Romans we love aping did, as old American elitism is basically dead, and so there's very little kingly stock left.
>>221041006>and then told the New Englanders they had to pay taxes to pay for the warthe war that the new englanders started against the wishes of the english? seems fair
>>221040737These facts about Shays Rebellion are incorrect, by the way
>>221041269>adamsthat guy owes me a goon sesh
>>221040135Holy shit is that Morse?Guy has been showing up in everything forever. He's such an 'aw shucks' likeable dude in everything I've ever seen him in - not even in a bad way.Glad to see he's still working. He must be old as the hills by now.
>>221044039Actually undeniable bot post
>>221044243Third world energy post
>>221046846Interesting, I wasn't aware that New Englanders were the cause for the Austrian Succession war.
>>221046846>seems fairToo bad
>>221040598It disintegrated less than 100 years later tho
>>221040853Old Worldism couldn’t be enforced in the New World. The antiquated systems of kings and queens and churches and bishops just didn’t hold in the Americas without the institutional infrastructure to support it.Rich land owners had all the power and knew it so they resented Brit’s trying to keep them under the thumb of the old regime. Keep in mind what that world was like without modern communication and transportation. Britain was basically another planet trying to rule over a bunch of rich entrepreneurs in a wild untamed universe rich with resources. Plus a lot of the settlers in the 13 colonies were religious radicals chased out of England for political extremism.
>>221048185Canada is a monarchy, dumbass
>actually the founding "fathers" were goodlmao what the hell
colonies army:>ragtag>volunteers>in desperate need of a showerBri'ish>global superpowerHow did they do it
>>221048330What country are you from?
>>221048389British feet were hurting
>>221048389Every successful independence movement, or really any small country resisting larger country boils down to being more trouble than you're worth. The Atlantic was still logistically annoying to send an army across and once the French were convinced into making it a proxy war it was an almost guranteed win for the 13 colonies. The rough patch was not giving up early and scoring enough wins to convince the French. You're not trying to win as in conquer the larger country, you're trying to not lose long enough for the big country to leave you alone.
>>221048389supply/command lines
>>221048233It's also mostly unpopulated and for most of its history the only people that went there were employees of Hudson Bay, a British company that was effectively the government. Not private self-sufficient settlers.
>>221041281TR was a stooge of the jews and he was instrumental in de-racializing and de-Europeanizing American identity, setting the stage for the "anyone can be an American" bullshit we have to deal with today
>>221040135And they absolutely deserved every bit of it if you don’t believe me watch The Patriot the british were pure evil.
That's not George Washington. Is it? That's gopnik George Washington. If that guy was on a dollar I'd say take it back to the bank and get me a real dollar
>>221049205Ian Kahn is the best GW casting Ive seen yet
> Mr. Washington owed it to me on every score of private acquaintance, I will not now say, friendship; for it has some time been known by those who know him, that he has no friendships; that he is incapable of forming any; he can serve or desert a man, or a cause, with constitutional indifference; and it is this cold, hermaphrodite faculty that imposed itself upon the world and was credited for a while , by enemies as by friends, for prudence, moderation and impartiality. Washington BTFO
>THIS NIGGA FRANKLIN IS A SEX PEST
I love our founding fathers so much, bros. We really lucked out
>>221041032the first thing we did as a country was give catholics rIghts. they were mad that the french canadians who they had just fought a war with were granted equal rights
>>221048389>How did they do itGandalf Washington asked the eagles for help.
Reminder that this series is pozzed garbage. Just read about the founders if you want to know more about them.
>>221045341The biggest shame of the miniseries is that they didn't capture the night that Franklin and Adams had to share a room and they spent all night arguing about if the window should be OPEN or CLOSED.
>>221040135He's a big man
The colonial era is the most interesting part of American history and it's all downhill from there.The rest of American history from 1789 until now is just "slavery good/bad". You may think I'm being reductive, but it's the truth.
>>221050109>the most interesting part of American historyThat's easily the westward expansion. There's a reason we've mythologized the wild west.
>>221040853it was my understanding it was because the brits wanted the burgers to stop killing indians and stealing their land, which was a complete non starter to local interests. t. euro
>>221044563he did nothing wrong, thirdie
>>221046769Hamilton was a crypto jew.Hence his imperative to create a Central Bank as an international doorway for his kin; like a summoning portal.
>>221045730>>221045766fewer Americans died in every war combined than frogs died in WWIfewer Americans died in every war combined than nazis died in WWIfewer Americans died in every war combined than russians died in WWIfewer Americans died in every war combined than bongs died in WWIfewer Americans died in every war combined than austrohungarians died in WWIbongaloids did fucked up things like giving all of the land the new england militia died for back to canada and seizing gunpowder magazines
>>221046462>saar, you needs to worship the king saar!Washington was right to kill the bongistanis
>>221050575wow americans were really good at war before all the desert fiascos
>>221046462>>221046544damn you mad, thirdie>>221046586the bong is a lying race
>>221046672the bong east indian tea company had a navy and an army>>221046747the bongs were unable to force a decisive battle. If you win, but only like 4 guys die and everyone else retreats the battle didn't do much. that's one of the things everyone makes fun of in the Ridley Scott Napoleon movie. he dug his troops in in a random field in the film and irl at the time if you didn't specifically need that patch of land and you saw someone dug in you would just fuck off and go around them. The US east coast is hilly and there are as lot of fucking woods and there weren't many horses so neither side could run down and kill the other side with horses when someone routed
>>221050639their spawn point was broken beyond belief. shit balance.
>>221046845>7am>I'm totally American guyslol no you aren't. the bong parliament system is also terrible>>221046846>Americans started every bong-frog war >>221046973This show's nearly 20 years old>>221047998the US is still around, thirdoid
>>221048389AmeriGODs are genetically superior to yurothirdies
>>221049205>random russian wordsaar!>>221049111this>>221049885same
this thread is making me want to read about american history because i forgot everything. any text book or normal book recs?
>>221040467>American propaganda: We won the revolution because we were so brave and steadfast!>Historical Reality: The British considered the US a backwater and were concentrating the majority of their forces fighting the two other super powers of the day - France and Spain - at one of the largest sieges on history, the Battle of Gibraltar, and given that Canada hadn't rebelled the British didn't consider the loss of the southern colonies a disaster and if they hadn't been involved with major back to back to back near world wars with the French they could've crushed the Americans in a year.
>>221051049If you could find a pre 1970's history book that would be best. All modern ones paint americans as bad unless we are conquering more land for our jewish masters.
>>221051246we beat the bongs because we are morally, intellectually and genetically superior
>>221041750Massachusetts does have the town of Sandwich which is right next to mashpee
>>221051246>this level of bong cope
>>221051246>the British didn't consider the loss of the southern colonies a disasterThat was really retarded of them, and only the beginning of their great and continuing decline.The US skipped out at the height of the empire valuation, and left the rest of the anglos in Europe holding the bag.
>>221052054It was named after the Earl of Burgerking.
>>221052054If only Sandwich was a little closer to Yarmouth.
>>221051246>Losing access to the new more resource rich parts of the new world is a good thingI haven't seen this much bloody cope since bongs seeth of William the Conquer
>>221051246England reached out too far in too many directions and we each got to steal a country when they relinquished assets due to military foreclosure, which was really fucking cool for a bit here
6 foot 20
>>221051246Surrendering a nation means total defeat, duh. What's the difference?
>>221051246>b-but at least we kept canada
>>221053186kek
>>221052271llel
>>221050639still are
>>221056017you lost lol
>>221056198>when your enemy kills your king, you winlmao, you are a thirdie
>>221050639>desert fiascosThe war part of those fiascos went very well 10/10 no-notes. The problems happened once the objectives were complete, and everyone stood around with their dicks in their hands going "Well... what now?"
>>221049111you jest but my history teacher showed us this movie as an introduction to the american revolution without a hint of irony
>>221050575ok fair enough but don't trash-talk austria-hungary bro
>>221056473Its a lot of overdramatized horse shit, but the big battle at the end is one of the better depictions of a big formation battle like that on screen. And as cheesy at it is, its like the american version of the sharpe series.
>>221040853it was a masonic coup, hthpaine's list of grievances was so nonsensical that the british government went through it all "did we even do this?" (they had not)
>>221056583>"did we even do this?" (they had not)awkward!
Hello, everyone. In spite of the animosity in this thread I would like to tell our transatlantic friends of the many amazing places in England with American connections, should they wish to visit one day:1. Thomas Paine's house (Lewes)>The home of the Founding Father and author of 'Common Sense'2. Benjamin Franklin's house (London)>The only remaining home of one of America's greatest sons, where he lived intermittently between 1757 and 17743. Sir Walter Raleigh's birthplace (Devon)>Birthplace of the great seaman and explorer who initiated the first English settlements in what is now the US4. Captain Cook Memorial Museum (Whitby)>The building where Cook was apprenticed to Captain John Walker5. Parlington Arch (Leeds)>A remarkable victory arch dedicated to the American Revolutionaries, commissioned in 1783 by Thomas Gascoigne and inscribed 'LIBERTY IN N. AMERICA TRIUMPHANT. MDCCLXXXIII'6. Boston Guildhall (Lincolnshire)>The 14th century building was the site of the trial of the Pilgrim Fathers, under William Brewster, in 16077. Sulgrave Manor (Oxfordshire)>Tudor manor house built by Lawrence Washington, the great-great-great-grandfather of George Washington8. Washington Old Hall (Washington, Tyne and Wear)>The ancestral home of the original Washington family, in the village of the same namePS. There should be more films made about the Mayflower passengers
Do you think he's spinning in his grave now that the retards running the DOD banned the founding fathers religion?
>>221040530Sue me if I go too fastBut I see this anon is a man of class
>>221040135This show made me realize that most of the founders were just autistic nerds
>>221056289you lost lol
The truth is most guys were fighting in the war to get paid.
What did he mean by this?
>>221040135Washington was too OP
>>221040135>Cor blimey governah, pay some taxes>....no/thread
>>221056885>ireland >scandinavia >swarthy
>>221056988Ben was right
>>221041204>at one point a bunch of his officers planned to turn traitor and he told them he was disappointed in them and they decided not to
>>221056799>no john paul jones house
>>221056866nah, we won thirdie. just like we beat your ass like a drum in back to back world wars
>>221056885>implying he was wrong
>>221057277Visit England, Scotland and WalesTell the Scotch girls you're a film star or something
>>221040135I know youre a worthless culture who used to burn your wives on bonfires for fun but some people used to make things better not worse
It's so pathetic that mudbloods who fill their holy rivers with poop can't understand any other eye colors but brown. It's...really pathetic. Worthless "cultures."
>>221057292you lost lol
>>221057353>>221057368I'm American. Us and the nips have the only worthwhile cultures in the world yurop and india are basically the same thing.>>221057379we won. keep crying, thirdie
very good show
>>221050109Ideals for nation founding always are, then the expectation vs reality in the founding itself. The rise of a central administrative state began in late 1800s, combined with controlled printing of currency doomed it all. But the customs like when knick knacks were used then went out of fashion is still interesting.
>>221041120Why have they not made a movie about that guy, he was a genuine killer grandpa
>>221040853>At that point in history americans thought of themselves as britsBut that's the fundamental problem, isn't it?They thought of themselves as British. The actual British disagreed. The colonists were not treated or regarded as real, equivalent British. The colonists would try to speak to their overlords like they were equals, only to be astonished by the heavy handed response.Very, very few colonists started off wanting full independence.
How would George Washington deal with Palantir after he found out they killed 168 little girls?Nevermind these were the people who put antichrist imagery on their new state symbols, he'd probably send them his CV
>>221056931Taxes for thee, not for me.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
>>221058447Washington was a freemason so he wouldn't be concerned with a bit of child sacrifice.
>>221058342the hebrews will not allow it
>Give your citizens the right to bear arms>Create a decentralized government that is impossible to overthrow via an armed insurrectionI don't think they thought this through.
>>221058447>>221058450>>221058461thirdie seethe
>>221058447meds
>>221058527Anon I have bad news...https://freemason-wa.org/
Love dat nigga G-Dub.
>>221052509Rich in what exactly that was worth risking the most profitable parts of the empire?
>>221052509Rebellious colonies aren't worth the effort, just look at the US in Vietnam or the Middle East.
>>221051246This one really got to the Yankees lel. It also doesn't help that the British had the English Civil War in the back of their minds throughout. TheIn fact the Yankees thought of their rebellion as an ECW2. The WW2 of the day, the never again moment in history, was a tyrannical king fighting puritans. So there was a lot of political support for them at home. Little did they know the Yankees would turn their little republic into ravenous warmongering. Total years of peace? 1930-1939 maybe.
>>221058659Not colonies.
>>221058700>>221058512thirdie seethe>>221058559My grandpa was a mason and he didn't do anything weird
>>221058700Nah.
the opening is fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUWkBFBt9rM
>>221057473>I'm American.KEK you lost to goat fuckers
>>221058512What's the point of having a house of representatives and a senate, an upper house and lower house? I know many countries have it. Still i don't know why. Just have 1 parliament like the Duma and knesset
>>221058837your shithole country has literally never won a war, as it is a nation of eunuchs
>>221058846With a country as large as the US, a lower house is needed for more representatives, though since the number of reps is capped now and each house rep represents tens of thousands of Americans, it renders the entire bicameral system pointless
>>221058846>>221058916in shithole third world countries that follow the bong system it's because they have an upper house for lords and bishops. France has one house for like local governments.In the US Virginia wanted congress to be based on population, meaning only big states get a say and Rhode Island wanted 1 state 1 vote so each state got equal representation. The house represents the people and big states like commiefornia have more sayThe senate used to represent state governments, but they moved to direct election in the 1920s, and is a counterbalance to make sure everyone has equal representation and that shithole states like california can't dominateevery state other than nebraska has 2 chambers. this is because prior to the 1960s states usually had the lower house based on population and the upper house based on like county lines or some other alternative form of representation so that everyone would have equal representation and shithole cities full of subhumans wouldn't dominate. Then in the 1960s some communist jewish judge who hated America (Eisenhower called the guy his greatest regret) said all state legislatures had to based on population so now states with shithole cities like illinois and new york are dominated by subhuman retards in chicago and nyc who should be allowed to vote because they aren't people and they are evil piece of shit who want to deny basic human rights
>>221041020Kek
>>221041120The real-life Sisu.
>>221042510>way less votes than
>>221058846There's always different elligibility requirements but also in the USA the lower house is represented by population and in the senate everyone gets an equal number of votes.
>>221045454That’s fucking fantastic.
>>221040563
>>221059223kek
>>221041031Washington was really good at not losing decisively and convincing his soldiers that they would get paid later, and those were the two most important skills needed to win the war
>>221041031He got insanely lucky + bong incompetence.
>>221059223Holy fucking shit.
>>221059223>>221059263they say the eyes are the window to the soul. what do those eye say about the soul of christian chandler?
>>221050158The Indian wars and the whole mormon thing are crazy, it's a shame basically everything between the revolution and the civil war gets ignored by history classes.
>>221050539>Andrew Pornwatcher
>>221040563>an older womenI seriously doubt my boy Benjie said that illiterate shit.
>>221041657Plebbitors would be grateful to Perot for stealing votes from Bush and handing Clinton the election.
>>221041537>insecure white racistslol
>>221059564You do realize that John Adams went to France to actually do the diplomacy because old faggot Ben was too busy getting AIDs by sleeping with widowed or single French hags?
>>221051246stefan molyneux is still on the internet?!
>>221060105and Adams was a terrible diplomat, the French hated and told him to fuck off, Ben got the alliance with France with zero help from Adams
>washington, washington, six foot twenty fucking killing for fun
>>221040135as time goes on, this part of history will just get shortened to "warlord fails"
>watching the show>they see a bong ship>adams was ordered below deck>grabs his musket and shoots at the bong ship>mfw this apparently actually happened irl and Adams was on the deck of the USS Boston with his personal musket during a battle with a bong ship
>>221040546>Adams:"I don't want to be in Europe, I want to be in America helping the war effort. I feel useless here, nothing is getting done!">Franklin:"Get this fucking virgin out of here, he is interrupting my nude bath chess matches with gilfs."
>>221059331Those eyes have seen the ravaging of Barbussy
>>221060458...so divine.
>>221040135>I'm watching that John Adams show with Paul GiamattiIf you're a history nerd it's a great mini-series, if you're not it's probably kinda boring.
>>221041357>>221041358don't forget irish, italian and slavshit migration waves that brought more crime and mafiafounding-fathers era looks so comfy bros...t. slavshit
>>221058512> Independent Government AgenciesThere is no such thing, there is nothing in the Constitution about an independent branch of government called the "Federal Housing Finance Agency" for instance.It's the President, Congress and Courts. That's it.
>>221050109Wrong, westward expansion as well as early industrialization and the class between Hamiltonian and Jeffersonian ideas beyond “muh slavery” is interesting as fuck. Especially when you look into all of the settlement that went in the antebellum years where fucking Ohio was considered to be the northwest and the frontier were places like Tennessee and Missouri. And then you have everything post Civil War with the Wild West period.
>>221060398>and Adams was a terrible diplomat, the French hated and told him to fuck off, Ben got the alliance with France with zero help from AdamsAnother American retard outing himself as slurper of the embarrassingly retarded propaganda of (((founding fathers))).John Adams was the only decent guy among all of those self serving and opportunistic haute bourgeois plutocrats.Read a fucking book, Adams did all the job and the French made all the deal with him. Franklin got the glory because the used goods of French politicians put in a good word for him.God, I fucking hate Americans and their childish and utterly embarrassing """national""" myths.
>>221061928nta>let me tell you about your countryI hate how fucking retarded thirdies are. literally every thirdie huffs they/them's own farts despite the fact you are objectively more retarded than Americans
>>221062005>muh thirdiesRentfree.Your country is shit and everyone knows it.Suck a dick and pipe down.
>>221040135>all the southern congress members scoffing at Adam's because they think he'll nominate someone from the north to lead the continental army>THE GOOD GENTLEMAN FROM VIRGINIA COLONEL GEORGE WASHINGTON>u wot m8.jpgPeak kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqAdlkJDt7k
>>221061327There's nothing in the constitution about the Federal Reserve or the CIA either and yet here we are.
>>221062392CIA is miliary
>>221040546THAT'S WHY HE'S ON THE 100
>>221041031He got bailed out by Lafayette. I wonder why the French directly military supported the Americans? And the Jewish merchants (slave traders) backed the revolution? Weirdly enough all the founding fathers were supported by slavery directly or indirectly.Total fucking mystery.
>>221049434The masonic and kabalist satanic sex magic. That's why Washington never had kids and appears as Bapohmet in the capital statue. Hamilton himself was a bastard Rothschild
>>221063416Because the French and English had been at cold or hot war for 500 years straight at that point and arming my enemy's enemies is a classic move in geopolitics.
>>221063416Because our King was a naive idealistic dreamer who genuinely liked the idea of freedom Masons paid him back by killing him, the queen (most beautiful woman atm who deeply cared about her son) and his son (tortured to death)
>>221050575>ww1>nazis>>221058879you DID lose to a bunch of muslims with AKs and caves as their main resources, while being the self proclaimed biggest and most wealthiest army in the world. how do you square that circle?
>>221046769Frenchmen robbed him of at least four championships
>>221040135Are the French really like this ??
>>221049885Look at any other country that has a revolution.COMPLETE CRAP and it gets WORSE than it was beforeAmerica? the Founders knew not to desperately hang on to power and brutally suppress their political enemies
>>221040135How did Ascended Master George Washington defeat the British Empire when the dark Wizard John Dee had used a binding spell on one of the minor Outer Gods to ensure England's eternal supremacy?
>French and Indian War>Revolution>Quasi War>War of 1812I never realized it in school but early American history was a lot of flip flopping between Britain and France.
>>221040135Claim your Founding Waifu
>>221064018Afghanistan fell apart AFTER we left. Not while we were there.
>>221061928>why yes I listened to one YouTube video about John Adams...how could you tellkek
>>221058846in Europe the upper house tended to be the house for the nobles/elite to try to hamstring whatever prole bullshit the bolshies in the lower house pushed through, albeit not always succeedingthe American case is because for the house each seat is based on population (so bigger states have more house seats) while the senate gives 2 senators per state. this was to assuage fears that a small state like rhode island or wyoming would be run over by bigger states if they just went with the housefrankly with the outsized influence of the federal government nowadays it's an irrelevant worry but the historical concerns are very understandable
>>221040135Based. Enjoy. A great show, from when HBO used to make those.
>>221040853https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
>>221064333were, before they got rev'ed.
>>221061928Found John Adam’s 4chan account lmao
>>221049981kek is that real? I'm imagining grouchy Paul Giamatti seething while Franklin trolls him when I bet he doesn't give a shit about the window.
>>221066326Yeah Adam’s wrote about it in his diary . He just wanted the window closed and Ben went on about how fresh air is good for health Would make for a good one act play
Was Jefferson actually autistic like in the show?
>>221041120I haven't seen that monument, but last year I ended up going through a local MA graveyard and found some soldiers who were at Lexington green. I was around the 250th anniversary of the battle.
May this thread never die. Godspeed, gentlemen
>>221059466kekmost unfortunate>>221060458Baby Cakes?
>>221040467He loved his soldiers, he just knew they could do better. And they won.
>>221040564Cute boy
