Season 7 EditionPrevious >>221095901
it's over.let it die.let it end.
Doctor Who is dead!REJOICE!
>>221109474wilderness era was the most creativewe need to capture that
>>221109420
>>221109420This is all Moffat's fault. He made the show too good. Everything after had to be shit after, to remind us Doctor Who's true quality.
>>221109496Gay.
>>221109420SEASON 7 WAS FUCKING KINOLOVE PERTWEELOVE LIZLOVE THE BRIGLOVE AUTONSLOVE SILURIANSLOVE KILLER ASTRONAUTSLOVE NAZI UNIT LOVE GREEN WEREWOLVES
behold, the most homosexual image on the internet
>>221109486It can't be done. Your mindset is a perfect example of why this show's failed and the sad thing is you will never understand why. Always trying to recapture some lost non-existent golden age.
>>221109546>show's failedbecause of woke crap
>>221109576twat
>>221109493It is indeed a biting commentary on the migrant crisis. Crazy how the Doctor used to be such a bad guy, but I guess it comes with the skin color.
>>221109602NL
>>221109518Ncuti looks like he gets barebacked by white guys
>>221109518fixed
>>221109518Shooty Gyattwa
>>221109486The energy of the VNAs with just slightly better quality control would be pretty ideal.>almost every story is something new and creative, instead of relying on nostalgia>the Doctor is a strange, secretive, sometimes sinister character, and definitely not a magical boyfriend or a social workerWhy can't we have this?
>>221109634I said beforejust filming first 50 BF releases would be perfect right now
>>221109629>ugly, manly feetHow fucking dare you?
>>221109518https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=782nI45iYsY
>>221109647Uh uh.
>>221109634I would also give props to Shalka for the idea of the Doctor being this creepy, aristocratic, Hammer Horror kind of figure.Pretty much good ideas all around in the 90's, with variable levels of execution.
>>221109679need to read that
Wait, I guess that was like 2003. Still spiritually the 90's, to me.
>>221109635What could have been...
>>221109484actually doing a reference to the Rasputin song is like a show putting a TikTok song in, it's off-putting and immediately annoying
>>221109647Don't even need to do the full first 50. Just have the animations team make animations for the best of Big FInish.
>>221109695Shalka was a one off animated episode, that was basically pilot for a new series, that just didn't go anywhere.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV7Vwqy-vb0
The books in the 90s did have huge quality control problems>VNAs lean too hard on gratuitous sex and graphic violence>EDAs/PDAs lean too hard on returning classic characters and connecting everything Early Big Finish blew them out of the water t b h
>>221109612NL? What does that mean?
>>221109712even Zagreus would work
>The /who/ schizo keeps making generals and posts because he can't accept that Doctor Who is finally dead
>>221109484i liked this guy, i just wish they left the Master alone for a few years.the Rani actress had the opposite problem: finally shows up, is great in a terrible story, gets eaten. it pretty much always comes down to the writing (whatever nonsense they to spin).
>>221109484Honestly.Should've made him the Meddling Monk over the Master.
>>221109678Isn't that the War of the Worlds one? Why is that bad?
>>221109825>written by Mark Gatiss
>>221109484i love when daleks do the slow head turn
>>221109709I still can't get past the idea of this giant invisible dog sitting on the TARDIS since the Tom Baker era Wtf was RTD smoking cock obviously
>>221109805ìt is more alive than ever when rusty hands are out of it
>>221109733The sex and violence I can cope with (because it's funny, and it makes the books feel kind of seedy and cool). It's the amateurish writing more than anything that can become a problem.So many of these books run into the problem of having too many characters, and none of them being interesting or distinct. It's a common problem you run into with amateur writers. Too many ideas. Too little of an ability to convey the ideas.Still, you get some stand-outs like Warhead, or Nightshade. Those are pretty fantastic.
>>221109805It'll be back. This is all part of RTD's master plan. Have faith.
>>221109629>that hand
>1 = 9 (the original, you might say)>2 = 10 (the popular one who keeps returning)>3 = 11 (the one who ushered in a complete change in the show and then had an anniversary with two other Doctors)>4 = 12 (the GOAT, who doesnt want to return to rhe show)>5 = 13 (the passive one with too many companions)>6 = 14 (the failed experiment)>7 = 15 (the gay one)
>>221109910he definitely-always-wondered and thought-it'd-be-interesting-if.it's not like the story ended with the villain being teleported somewhere else, or anything.
>>221109518should have been better if was Mikhaela Coel
Reminder that Doctor Who is one of the world's most famous trans characters
>>221109954>>2 = 10 (the popular one who keeps returning)>>4 = 12 (the GOAT, who doesnt want to return to rhe show)>>5 = 13 (the passive one with too many companions)i think you have some of these wrong, anon.
>>221110009as long is not surgical is fine
>>221109910
>>221110009>at no point has he ever chosen to be male or female. he just takes what the universe throws at himDoesn't that make him the opposite of a trans character?It's the Dax thing all over again. You're making yourself look like a doofus by trying to claim these characters.
>>221109954I don't know what type of experiment they were trying with 14 other than>Can we reheat a Doctor and sell it to the masses.
>breaks the glass ceiling>get it?Powerful. Why didn't the audience like it?
>>221110061"break glass in case of emergency". It was supposed to rekindle some interest in the franchise after things had really dropped off in the post-Matt era.They managed to completely bumble it by making Tennant's Doctor look like a fool, and then having another Doctor no one liked.
>>221110061They wanted to see how far they could push the messaging specifically on the old nuWho fans who would tune in to see Tennant again.
>>221110099>DUDE, A WOMAN CAN FINALLY BE THE HERO OF DOCTOR WHO!>Susan was pretty much the main character in the very first episode. Rose was pretty much the main character of the rebootIt's the dishonesty that annoys me.
>>221110103>making Tennant's Doctor look like a foolimplying
>>221110099The Woman Who Fell to Earth got the highest ratings of any regular episode in the Revived Series.
>>221110061They were trying to humiliate the audience, and make them feel bad.Understanding the creative decisions behind dr who post 2017 you have to understand that it's not trying to tell a story, it's trying to subvert western societyTennant comes back and is berated on screen because he had the largest audience of impressionable children back in the day and they wanted to degrade and tarnish that memory
>>221110136And the drop-off?
>>221110135Not even a big fan of original era Tennant, but he did go from strong, assertive, and self-assured, to some kind of bewildered middle age man getting told off by every woman and troon on screen.Why did they think people wanted that?
>>221110157he deserved and enjoyed and condoned
>>221110009wouldn't actually changing your sex through alien shenanigans go against the whole 'gender is a construct' transgender thing?if anything, lady Dr Who would be all>oh jesus oh fuck oh christfreaking out in the mirror, like an anorexic, no?
>>221110183it's not about what the people want; it's about what they *need*
>>221109507Imagine how big the show would have got if Matt Smith lasted longer than Tom Baker.
>>221110210*show gets indefinitely shelvedOops
>>221110159Doesn't matter. Everyone loved the show!
>>221110200Of course they would. It's the same people who consider Caenis having a greek god to transform her into a he so he doesn't have to get raped again, as one of the first reps of transgenderism
>>221110200The truth is there's no coherent through-line to trans ideology.There are people who will tell you they were always a woman, even though they were born with a penis, and there are people who will tell you none of it matters and you can just choose whatever you want willy-nilly. There are people who will insist they're gay, and people who are insist that they're actually straight because they're a "real woman".I don't know how all of these different camps haven't started going for each other's throats yet.
>>221110200if they magically became the perfect version of new gender they wanted, they would be ordinary
>>221110200Dunno about that. If the character is the same no matter the sex wouldn't that lean into gender being a construct?
>>221110103>no one liked.One guy liked him.
>>221109807Poo Rani oozed that Kate O'Mara sass, and this would be her only appearance. Wasted.
>>221110269>coherent through-lineto have laws we need limted definitions
How many years have you been using /who/?
>>221110303since Nilso was straight
>>221110269It's not an ideology you idiot, it's real.
>>221110314
>>221110294This wheelchair fella turned on RTD2 as soon as his little cameo had aired
>>221110303Since 2021
>>221110294cum stains on tshirt
>>221110303Since Asher discussed Water of Mars with his sisters in a pool
>>221110344Where can I buy this? Thank you.
>>221110294>random slags in the backgroundTopkek
>>221110393>random slags in the backgroundbetter doctors than him
>>221110274>>221110279yeah that's about how i'd take it tbqh.i'm totally fine with some alien race having a reduced idea of gender 'roles' or pre-established weird ones (outright matriarchy or something). but they just seem like ordinary men and women to me, same sex dimorphism as in humans.
>>221110331See, I've already got one of them fighting.Is everything related to gender real, or is it just a costume you can put on and take off?
let it end. let it die.
>>221110460gender is what you want 2 bebut sex is fixed
>>221110481says who?
>>221110303I more or less remember live discussing the Series 3 finale on 4chan.
>>221110399Why is the pope in the background?
>>221110549not anymore
>>221109420LET IT DIE
>>221110549Maybe Bill's on a date in the background
>>221110238I can't believe the weather killed the show, bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qHqV1zpEQM
>>221110294Luv' me some slags. Simple as.
>>221110512scientifically determined. the doctor would agree.
>>221110539Any records of stuff from back then?
>>221110303Sometimes I think /who/res live too long...>>221110399Almost there. Keep tweaking it.
>>221110666science cannot limit progress
>>2211106884plebs only goes back to series 5.
>>221110712Yeah so I thought you might have something personally that's not archived.
>>221110748oh my god is that Tennant my favourite Doctor? wow what pisode is that?
>>221110824the one with Noel Clarke
Eccleston had the best regeneration of NuWho. No big self indulgent speeches. No “I don’t want to go”. Just straight to the point.
>>221110824Dr Who and the BBCs.but anon's AI programs will never capture the organic kino that REAL chickens produce.
>>221110876Another rush job.
>>221109518Did they ever explain why he suddenly started changing outfit every episode? If he’d have dressed like this for the rest of his run, he’d have been a tiny bit more believable in the role. At least he’d have looked like he stepped out of a different time period.
>>221110892But it worked. Which is more than I can say for the last one
>>221110887Me on the right
>>221110919Bet you hate Tennant too. Boring opinions R Us.
>>221110824Day of the Rooster
I love my hotwife: Jenna!
>>221110966
>>221109518>People were looking forward to a campy blaxploitation doctor when set photos started leaking out
>>221110988Why is it so big?
Reminder that everyone here is a virgin loser.
>>221110947To be fair, he killed Doctor Who.
>>221111012I'm saving myself for Jo Martin.
>>221111009
>>221111029How did he kill Doctor Who?
>>221111047but accepting return in a troon propaganda that he condones personally
>>221111046What happens if you drink it?
>>221110988>ywn go back in time and collect a ton of free Asda carrier bags, then travel forward to 2016 and sell them outside for 4p each
>>221111047setting bad precidents.
The first Tennant special was rubbish but I liked the other two.
So, which Doctor is gonna kick it before the show comes back off of hiatus?My money's on Davison.
>>221111047Warping audience's expectations for the character
Why don't they simply get Jenna back to boost the numbers up
>>221110902No-one ever complained about the Third & Fourth Doctor's changing outfits though. It wasn't until the Fifth doctor that outfits became static unchanging costumes like a fucking cartoon character
>>221111092Wild Blue Yonder is mid, The Giggle is a masterpiece.
>>221111105Jenna's too big for us now. She only comes back for respectable jobs, like Xenoblade.
>>221110303Several billion years. I glitched through a rift into a multitude of multiverses and am timeslipping my way through a neverending loop of simultaneous Groundhog Days.
>>221111099Colin Baker
>>221111124Jenna does like the biggest of things
>>221111117if you are gay, yes>>221111132why DT so short and Matt so long?
>>221110303I only come back when something relevant happens to shitpost.This general really left a bad taste in my mouth from when it was run by tripfags calling anyone who disliked anything in the show a "boardie"I hope those people are happy now they've literally killed the show.
>>221111124Is she bigger than Matt and Karen?
>>221111132Where are all the timeless children?
>>221111153>why DT so short and Matt so long?Regeneration. It's a lottery.
why there is no pics of Jenna in bikini?
>>221111124I love Xenoblade Chronicles! They announced a new game recently, too, Xenoblade Chronicles Genesis. It should be great. But the first one is by far the best, as the characters and plot are much more interesting. After that, the stories are just nowhere near as interesting, and the music in X was terrible.
Last time the show was good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyIP5nrJ8gY
>21st Doctor
>>221111153David is blue, Matt is green.
>>221111199Jenna only shows skin with my permission
>>22111120712's era > 9's era
>>221111132What about Heaven sent where he spent 4 billion years trapped in that time lord confession dial thingy
>>221111258he did not age more than 1 week there
>>221111258Doesn't count because he reset himself a bunch of times.
>>221111258He didn't age.
>>221111009>>221111192True to life. Matt has a whopping great plonker while David's todger is much more.. er... compact. Not that I'd know.
>>221111275He always ends up remembering it all so his consciousness is aged.
>>221111295RTD Toddlers still haven't understood Heaven Sent
>>221111268>>221111275>>221111295Lol the sad nerds come in always ready to help correct other retards. What a state this general is.
>>221111297Hi Billie
>>221111328
>>221111320>nerds correcting retardsYou just summed up 4chan
I fucking hate the Doctor being a God analogy. He's supposed to be a low achieving bohemian wastrel who escaped his own planet due to the stifling hierarchy and bumbles round the universe getting into scrapes and hijinks, not some sort of heroic James Bond figure who's also the center of the universe, tens of thousands of years old, half human, and actively saving the entire multiverse from being imploded every week.When ever they do bring this shit back I hope they scale back the powercreep and realize less is more.
>>221111284Should have been Romesh
>>221111436too ooglieh
what if clara became the doctor
>>221111132how do they explain the drop off between 8 and 9? i think they do both give their ages on-screen.so he...lost age, during the Time War?
>>221111468she has her own tardis
>>221111398We did return to that for Planet of the Ood.
>>221111320
>>221111112they had a central theme though.Pertwee had velvet suits and frills. Baker had his scarf, his brown coat, and an assorted jumble of charity shop items. Gatwa really is just anything goes.
>>221110947I don’t hate Tennant. From Eccleston-Capaldi, none of the main actors were miscast. From then on, they were miscast. And I don’t blame the actors for that. I blame the showrunners.
this worth a listen?they got Kate Winslet back. the blurb makes it sound like it's present day, the old crew now have kids who go exploring the old school and 'zomg secret Nazi underground computer'.how much RTD clusterfuckery am i in for?
>>221111600Nobody can be miscast as the Doctor.
Doctor Who can't work any more because the whole deal was he was an eccentric in a straight-laced button down society. Now British society has become America-lite there's no novelty or uniqueness to the Doctor. There's no baseline societal structure he's working within.Same problem with Monty Python. Walking funny used to make Britons shit and piss in their hands and clap due to how unheard of it was.
They should hire a penguin to play the Doctor
>>221111600I have nothing against Tennant in theory, but that era really did set a lot of bad precidents. It would have been interesting to see how someone who wasn't RTD would have handled Tennant as the Doctor. You know, if they had told him to bring it down a peg, and written stories that weren't all about bubble-farts and fairy dust.
>>221111474wibbly wobbly timey wimey war
>>221111679Straight-laced AND button down? Curious combination. Elaborate your idea, for it is interesting.
>>221111474That can be explained by him not really knowing his true age and him just going with 900 after the war. But I don't think it's unreasonable for him to get younger during the time war. While the story itself isn't canon, in Doctor Who and the Time War it was said that during the war he had being aged up and down so many times because there were weapons that used time against their target.
>>221111600Looking back Jodie was the most milquetoast choice they would have gone with for the Doctor.It was like they said "Right, we're finally going to genderbend the Doctor like people have been saying we should for decades, but she can't have any sexuality whatsoever, nor any references to her sex or gender at any point in the show. She also has to be the most generic blonde woman imaginable, no personality whatsoever."If they were going to force a female Doctor they should at least have had her use her wiles to get what she wanted, maybe she uses the "just a silly girl tee hee" line to get into a laboratory as a secretary undercover or something.They were in a transitional period between "we can't upset the audience" and "upsetting the audience is the point" and it shows.
>>221111679they could flip it a bit, make him more like a grouchy headmaster from Victorian England, still a renegade Time Lord who has fun, but won't suffer the nonsense of the modern world.but maybe people would hate that and say 'it's not Doctor Who' if the guy is a 25-year-old running around and smiling and telling people they can do anything they want.
>>221111730https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/button-downThe height of British comedy back then was unironically having two spaghetti meals in one day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jK37C4CxA
It's not even hard to write a female Doctor.You literally just write her like Miss Frizzle then throw a bunch of doccy woccy technobabble into it.
>>221111731when all else fails, either the Doctor has forgotten his age, or some bullshit happened off screen and a few centuries got erased.It's not really that big of a deal.But yeah, I like the idea that the timewar was this enormous time-bending clusterfuck where new timelines were being written and erased every day, until it eventually all reached peak fuckery and retconned itself out of history.
>>221111738Jodie (fem doctor) wasn't really offensive problematic, other than a few episodes where she's being a whiny bitch. It was the posse of old man, handicapped black man and ethnic lesbian that went too far
>>221111738I think the way to go for the first woman Doctor was an older woman, more grandmotherly as a mirror to the 1st Doctor but her appearance would also be a way to get people to underestimate her.
>>221111679Doctor Who doesn't have to be British.
>>221111645>Nobody can be miscast as the Doctor.This is demonstrably untrue.
>>221111738A female doctor would honestly have been more interesting if they made her a girlboss. Instead, Jodie was the most pathetic, autistic Doctor of all.
>>221111816oh no, don't you let them have that one.someone post the YouGov poll.
>>221111801That was Jo Martin.
>>221111761There is no way a modern script writer would be able to write a Victorian character endearingly.Remember the abomination that was Bradley.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpsu3-eUENc
>>221111835Not as autistic as 11.
>>221111773and Missy is good too.
>>221111801Said it before, they should have went for Maureen Lipman to be the first female Doctor. She's quite clearly a genderswapped Hartnell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v9e5NjPCeQ&t=49Plus there's extra diversity points, because she's one of the tribe.
>>221111876I'm not going to argue that he wasn't autistic, but he was far better at communicating and capable of opening up.
>>221111860i just can't imagine William Hartnell saying it.but yeah, stern old-fashioned patriarch type. you can't tell me women AREN'T into that, even for the boyfriend-simulator aspect. Jeremy Irons telling the female companions PRECISELY what to do, in his husky voice.
>>221111923Time Lords are aliens, far beyond these simple human interpretations. We shall never comprehend their true wisdom.
>>221111795Jodie's posse was inoffensive, the problem really was with her Doctor. It just felt wrong, if I were to compare 13 and 15, 15's problem is that he doesn't have any gravitas and he's too weepy. If a different actor portrayed him or RTD didn't have a crying fetish he'd probably be serviceable. Whereas 13 lacked that gravitas while also making so many just plain bad decisions in the show without being called out on it.
>>221111925He actually said that exact phrase before now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snprb1JY_YAThe difference is he said it genuinely to express consternation, not as an actual threat for the pseudo-sexual sensibilities of the modern generation. A subtle nuance that is lost on the modern scriptwriter.
>>221111925He literally did say it.
>>221111916>She's quite clearly a genderswapped Hartnell.oh yeah i can hear that.but what the hell is this storyline?>Tyroneoh. oh no.
Now RTD's out of the game, looks like it'll be Moffat's new go! That'll be sure to keep the show afloat.
>>221112093can u not?
>>221112093If RTD2 was the worst elements of RTD1 cranked to 11 what the hell will Moff2 be?
>>221112107rtd2 was a ROARING success, don't try to deny it.
>>22111198013 was pure character assassination, man or woman, you could have anyone reading those lines, Tom, David, and it wouldn't be the Doctor.When in the 60 year history of the show has the Doctor ever been FOR the evil multi-billion dollar company and against the poor downtrodden workers?
>>221112161>reading those linesWhat lines? Give examples.
>>221112193https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLO2eG2BMwc
>>221112122Why is the show canceled now then?
>>221112208"The system is the problem."That line is actually grossly misinterpreted; as she has done throughout the episode, the Doctor is here referring to the sentient AI known as "the System", not about 'the system' as in 'the economy'.
>>221112216The BBC is run by far-right foreign millionaire doners, hence Farage getting so much air time on question time. It was cancelled because RTD refused to make the show another right-wing mouth piece like their other neo-fascist shows like songs of praise and countryfile that exist solely to reinforce the regime.
>>221112107Moff2 would be 8 episodes of the Doctor getting whipped by "The Girl Who Never Was", while quipping about his search history and twitter.
>>221112284And yet RTD1 was a huge success.
>>221112208Man, Jodie is shit. She has the presence of a mop head doused in custard.
>>221111686Moffat would have kept his Scottish accent.
>>221112325That was when RTD worked within the parameters of what the state media allowed. Since then he's openly flouted their policies of trans genocide and wider LGBT erasure. He was silenced for going against the increasingly bigoted gammonocracy.
>>221111818Verne Troyer would have been a great Doctor.
>>221111645>Nobody can be miscast as the Doctor.if the showrunner and the director wants to play the character within limits
221112284221112381meds
>>221112428Reminder that someone said RTD could play the Doctor themselves.
>>221112381>gammonocracyUsual gibbering ravings, then.
>>221112420Mondasians > Telosians
The next Doctor should be muslim
>>221112519>someone once said a thingBREAKING NEWS
>>221112527He can't be Muslim, he now has a history of eating Rogue's meat.
>>221112487The BBC has been committing trans genocide for its entire history, but recently the process has been accelerating due to foreign millionaire donors corrupting our institutions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4buJMMiwcgDoctor Who, as one of the last bastions of trans-inclusivity on the BBC, was obviously cancelled because of this. It's nothing to do with ratings, as their consistently higher than they were under Chibnall, before RTD took over.The BBC is just full of fascist boot licking dinosaurs and corruption.
The next Doctor should be played by a dog.
>>221112560Worked for Air Bud.
>>221112553Sure thing, buddy! Want me to read you a bedtime story now?
>>221112560Dogtor Whoof
