Just got back from Primetime, any other /tv/ anons see it yet? It was pretty funny
>>223393876Won't have time to go see it until Saturday, looking forward to it. Seems like yet another movie that is going to be impossible to discuss on /tv/ though. 10 years ago I think this place would have loved it but there is zero nuance or sense of humour anymore.
What if we made a to catch a predator movie but…bear with me here…the pedophile catcher is the evil VILLAIN and the pedophiles are the sympathetic good guys??!
I'm going to see it this weekend
>>223393876lot's of creepy close-up shots
Why does Hollywood hate Chris Hansen so much? Got me scritchin' the top of my pointed bowling pin shaped skull over here pondering about this.
>>223393876great, another white character for shitskins to obsess over, just what the word needed really
>>223393876Have tickets for Saturday. Honestly, I watched the trailer so much, I am worried I burnt myself out before I even see the movie.
>>223394257not what happens you braindead moron
>>223393876My eyes fucking hurt bro, India part was kino, as was the Rabbi scene, Robby P was very great but I have no idea if Chrissy H is really like that when the cameras off. Decoy Dan was good, but the other sexy chick decoy was the kino-boss, I'll give it 8/10 made me feel bad for pedos
>>223394367its just something to make a movie about to generate internet buzz so hollywood can pretend its relevant
>>223394520>India part was kino, as was the Rabbi scene,QRD?
>>223394649The India part is a flashback to Chris Hansen doing some story about missing children in India. He tries to retell it as some kind of sacred mission against evil because the decoy kid is having second thoughts about the show and the Rabbi is one of the predators, towards the end Hansen is starting to have a mental breakdown and the rabbi guy grabs him and starts yelling about how he has no right to be doing this
>>223394649There's a weird flashback/guided meditation retelling of Hansen's big break story (I think) which was about missing kids in India, I remember hearing about it in the TCAP documentary that was critical of the show that came out not long ago. The Rabbi scene is with a Rabbi predator that gets kinda spooky with Chris and then they have this like soul stare, it was just cool filmmaking.
>>223393876Currently in the theater waiting for it to start.
>>223394725>>223394766Sounds kino. Frustrated I have to wait a month for it to screen down here in Australia. Is it as unsympathetic towards Hansen as everyone imagines? I like the idea of this steadfast crusader against sexual immorality who loses his marbles in the process
>>223394839>Is it as unsympathetic towards Hansen as everyone imagines?It shows him as a guy who starts out as more of an opportunist trying to make ratings, and then the stress of dealing with the show and an affair with his wife makes him go kind of manic and start thinking of himself as a man on a holy mission. Not super sympathetic to him but he does seem like a complex character
>>223393876I saw the trailer and they make it look like there's some insanely dangerous raids with SWAT crashing in. When did that ever happen? Is it just a little dramatized or full on fiction with serial killers and shootouts? Because real life was just a bunch of funny autists AFAIK.
>>223394957It ends with a true story about trying to catch a District Attorney predator, they go to raid his house with a SWAT team because he won't come out, and he shoots himself in the head. I looked it up and it's a true story
>>223394957The assistant da in Texas had a swat team called to his house. He shot himself thoughbeit so there was no shootout
>>223394998Interesting, thanks.
>>223394957The film takes liberties with the TCAP operation, but there was a raid irl they were involved in. Watch the Murphy, Texas episodes if you want to know context. Or don't, and go in blind.
>>223394957In real life the funny autists would walk in, talk to the decoy thinking they were about to get some. She would leave and out would walk Hansen. Then he'd question them a bit and they'd either try to talk their way out of it or break down like bitches. Either way most often they would get up and try to leave. That's when the police would walk in from other rooms to arrest them. So there were cops there, but they'd wait until the pedo would try to leave
>>223395004>shot himselfImagine being an assistant DA and having less mental strength and willpower to live than a random beach guy who's built good.
>>223393876I really don't understand how people can think what Hansen was doing was wrong, especially given how zoomers call everyone a pedo now.
The biggest difference between the movie was that Hanson said curse words. I remember that him self-censoring with "Blank" was one of his most distinctive traits. I wonder if they just wanted to emphasize the taboo subject matter.
>>223395034Pedos think Hansen was wrong, but who cares what they think?
>>223395053On Takedown with Chris Hansen, he is uncensored.
>>223395076yeah but the movie is supposed to be about the TCAP era
>okay, MAYBE they were pedophiles that 100% intended to rape children, but Chris Hansen only did To Catch a Predator for the FAME and MONEY, so who's REALLY the bad guy, huh??
>>223395141God you people are fucking insufferable. I hope you're getting paid to post this slop.
>>223395034They think it’s this insanely deep nuanced brainiac take to fixate on the fact that Chris Hansen was also interested in his show being popular, and getting attention for himself as a journalist. That’s literally it, A24 fans are fucking cattle.
>>223395161No argument then?
>>223395141With how white tcap predators were, it doesn't really matter if you white wash one more.
>>223395062People who can think critically.
>>223395210People who can think critically care what pedos think?Why?
This movie accidentally became a great litmus test for progressive ideologues because they legitimately cannot comprehend how the average person recoils in disgust as they fixate on significantly lesser and ultimately productive and healthy evils while totally ignoring actually heinous acts.
>>223393876>>223394257he's morally gray. good one, huh?
>>223395210The fact that you’ve provided no argument here leads me to believe that your argument hinges upon a broad spectrum of talking points that would ultimately have to initiate itself by convincing me that pedophilia isn’t as bad as I think, or that pedophiles are somehow victims themselves .
>>223393876I have nothing to say about this flick desu, but I stayed towards the end of the credits after everyone else left and got to hear this so that was pretty cool. (Already heard it before, so nice hearing it in the theater.)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzxi90e8G1wAnyways, part of the reason I might have instantly forgotten what happened is because TWO N*****S WOULD NOT STOP TALKING. THEY WERE LITERALLY TALKING THE ENTIRE MOVIE. WHAT IS UP WITH THAT INSANITY?
>>223395260A person's attraction does not automatically invalidate the logic of their arguments. But I forgot 4chan has become infested with moralfaggotry.
>>223395260Murder is bad, but it would probably be bad to try to lure a bunch of autistic guys from chatrooms to commit murder and film it for tv.
>>223395363Your example only works if Hansen confronted them after they had sex with children
>>223394839>>223394941I wouldn't even say it's necessarily unsympathetic, it just portrays him as insecure and coping/spiraling as different pressures weigh in on him until he's all fucked up. He's more Marty Supreme-like than even, say, a Citizen Kane arc or something.
>>223395349Pedo logic is a thing. That's what makes tcap interviews so interesting
Does it show genericwhitemale? He was funny.
>>223394998And they even aired in on television, and it blew up into one big controversy with the attorney’s sister condemning how it went down.
>>223395443I don't think so, but it has the cerebral palsy guy. Does anyone know if the Rabbi was based on a real predator, like he got a creepy stare down and had to yell at a guy to sit-down? I tried searching for tcap rabbi, but the rabbi I found from the real show is just some oofy-goofy and not the menacing wrath of YHWH's chosen people that was depicted in the film.
>>223395363>pedophiles are somehow victims themselves.It’s unreal how you managed to state this back to me after I predicted it to your face.Your analogy falls apart because they were never allowed to commit “murder”.A sensationalist journalist doing sensational journalism at the expense of the dregs of society is actually incredibly common, totally uninteresting to anyone but leftist midwits(you), and far, far better than assaulting a child. >>223395349You are the moral faggot my man. I don’t care if these guys were only lonely and retarded, it was funny to watch them suffer and it served a greater public good.
>>223393876just got home from the theater.i give it 9/10. its not quite as negative towards hansen as i expected. it's not your typical film, where it has a neat and clear plot. its more like a stream of consciousness. a bunch of events happening. hansen is kind of excited at first, but eventually things start to go a bit sour, and he needs to get his hands on more extreme predators. well worth the watch in my opinion.
>>223394839It's honestly not as negative towards him as most would expect. I'd say he's portrayed as a tragic guy who lost his way. It isn't cynical about his motivations. His late 90s report on missing children in India is something that genuinely changed his life, lighting a fire within him to protect children and rid the world of what he describes as "an ancient evil". However, this good he wants to do is corrupted by his obsession with his image. Justice is not enough. He wants to be the top rated show on primetime television. He wants to be seen as a hero on the level of his peers at NBC in Afghanistan. He wants his family to be impressed by his work to nullify the damage of his infidelity. These all cause him to go off the rails
I ain't givin' this Jew director a dime. Whens this thing gonna be on primewire?
>>223395551>You are the moral faggot >it served a greater public goodWhy can't you niggers just admit to your sadism without being a pussy about it? I would respect it a great deal more.
>>223395644It also kinda paints him as taking on the role of doing the dark work that would have been done by a torturer in previous eras. In that scene where he's talking about the town pillory and the decoy kid passes back his bracelet, it's like the reality of Hansen's role is too dark for the kid to bear, but he acknowledges its importance.
>>223395565>>223395644> negative towards himI’m not saying you’re saying this, but this doesn’t invalidate the parallel social psychology argument around the film that’s occurring at all. Even if the movie positively portrays him, its existence impugns the necessary evils required to maintain a functioning society.>>223395689I would be interested if it wasn’t so obviously made by a dumb Jew. The decision to aesthetically position the film somewhere between a light Grindhouse and a nightcrawler carbon copy is so lazy and retarded. It should’ve looked like early 2000s digital video, if stylistically pigeonholed at all.Ugly brainless aesthetic. >>223395723Do you not see the contradiction between calling me a moralfag and a sadist at the same? I have a certain degree of empathy for the unfortunate young men who were caught up in the investigations, but I think you’re really underestimating how prevalent online enabled child assault was at the turn of the century and how much the show did to curb that.
>>223395644Yeah, this is a good summation. I imagine Chris Hansen will not like the portrayal, but it doesn't try to make him a "bad guy", he's just a complex focused guy that ends up fucking around with high stakes and many copes.
>>223395806>Even if the movie positively portrays him, its existence impugns the necessary evils required to maintain a functioning society.How exactly? Seems like a crazy statement to make about a film you haven't even seen.
>>223395806>its existence impugns the necessary evils required to maintain a functioning society.Such as? The necessary evils of chasing primetime ratings?
>>223395806>It should’ve looked like early 2000s digital videoIf you'd watch the film, you'd know that large parts of it do look like that. They even do a portion of a fake To Catch a Predator episode edited exactly like the original show. It's aesthetics are very faithful to the time period
>>223395826>>223395867The content of the film doesn’t matter in the case of either side of the argument.I’m not saying the film intends to do this, I’m saying it’s mere existence has a coherent traceable impact on the social fabric that can either be read positively as a will to truth or negatively as subversion.Again, I’m not even taking a stance here, I’m just saying the arguments people are having aren’t as partisan, transitory, and superficial as they might seem if you’re just interested in film, they’re actually deeper and more multifaceted than any kind of quibbles you could have over what the film itself might intent to mean.>>223395893Well that’s neat. I might torrent it.
>>223394520>made me feel bad for pedosYou are a pedo yourself of course you’re gonna self insert
>>223395349>admitting to being an evil pedo with no morals You know you deserve to die right?
>>223395723I think pedos should be subjected to sadistic brutal humiliation and torment yes, and i think everyone should think the same I don’t get why anyone wouldn’t think that
>>223396067I'm serious, made me feel bad for pedos, like who cares if an Iraq veteran wants to get a 13 year old boy to suck whipped cream off his cock, it's probably yummy
>>223395806Separating moralism with sadism is a rookie mistake. The two traits are not necessarily contradictory.Those who understand that are above average intelligent.Remember this guy from Berserk?
>>223395931You're a pretentious retard. You saw a trailer you didn't like and decided the movie is pro-pedophile, then you're presenting that at some kind of insane high level esoteric knowledge way beyond the comprehension of someone who actually watches movies.
>>223396091Where did Anon admit to being an evil pedo with no morals?>>223396118Why?>>223396133>Separating moralism with sadism is a rookie mistake. The two traits are not necessarily contradictory.They go hand-in-hand.
>>223394257I mean look at how he incompetently handled the onision situation. The internet wanted him to succeed and he fucked it up. Should have exclusively focused it on his era after to catch a predator when he wasnt working with a proper crew anymore.
>>223393876I liked the scene where Hansen points at the decoy's dick as he's on the phone with the district attorney
>do you like playing with yourself?>take your cock out>do you like touching your cock?>why don't you come over and make me hard?Yesss Chris. Yessssss!
>>223396153>why Evil people should be punished by the righteous, sadism should be reserved to be used by good people on the wicked, as a cathartic reward for their morality
I wish they could have had my boy Lorne in there, but I did laugh that they somehow managed to reference "me, my mommy, and my daddy".
>>223396226A good person wouldn't want to do that, thoughbeit. In fact, a good person would be disgusted by that idea and disgusted by anyone who supported it.
>>223396259A good person hates evil with burning passion and causes as much suffering to the wicked as possible
>>223396118Consensual child sex is OKAY. People who say it's evil are the evil ones.
>>223396146I literally invoked will to truth to make it as intentionally low brow and accessible as possible. I could not have be more open and less pretentious. I am noticing you have nothing to say here other than NO ITS SUPER NUANCED AND COMPLICATED AND INTERESTING THAT A SENSATIONAL JOURNALIST DID SENSATIONALIST JOURNALISM. It isn’t.You have no argument.A24 is popcorn trash. >>223396133Sure but he’s calling me a sadist in a derogatory gay way. He’s upset about it.
>>223395644Are you guys insane? He's portrayed as a complete nutcase and his work is portrayed as cynically as possible. His show's fans are either bloodthirsty sadists like the plane guy or yokel "I'll have the Fogle special" retards like the town cops, while he himself has mental breakdowns everywhere and allows himself to get talked down to by a child-fucker rabbi. And then he's framed as being responsible for the death of the poor DA who has the decoy sadly singing in his ear.
>>223396289Do you actually believe this though? Maybe in a vacuum you’d have some way to claim this, but WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY.
>>223396283A good person doesn't perpetuate suffering.
>>223396332>IM A GOOD PERSON IM A GOOD PERSON IM A GOOD PERSON IM A GOOD PERSON IM A GOOD PERSON IM A GOOD PERSON IM A GOOD PERSON No.
>>223396283I agree, what's your address so I can come punish you faggot.
>>223396366Are you being silly or is this a gotcha in your mind?
>>223396311>He's portrayed as a complete nutcase and his work is portrayed as cynically as possible.That's just regular showbiz, baby. The NBC guy even plays himself in the movie. >His show's fans are either bloodthirsty sadists like the plane guy or yokel "I'll have the Fogle special" retards like the town copsThat's his fans, not him, and also not inaccurate. There's special retards ITT justifying sadism and that's what TCAP tapped into. >while he himself has mental breakdowns everywhere and allows himself to get talked down to by a child-fucker rabbi.Rule of cool, I'll allow it. That scene was kino
>>223396365I'm not the moralfag, you are. I didn't make the rules. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
>>223396413>The people who actualize the sadism I benefit from are evil but not me.Jewish post.
>>223396416>IM EVIL AND YOU ARE GOODI know
>>223396391No I am being serious, give me your address fucking faggot.
>>223396332nature is cruel deal with it you hippie commie
>>223396416Saarpost
>>223394367It's trashy low brow televisionReality TV is for idiots
>>223396332A good T cell eats the cancer, lest the body die
>>223396416>you’re a moral fag>im a good person What? You can’t just change what the words mean.
>>223396441I'm sorry that you have been made vicious and not virtuous, truly, that is a lamentable condition and I hope you recover soon.
>>223396449Based off your own morals, which you explicitly cling to, this isn't true.
>>223396413>That's just regular showbiz, baby.You guys are genuine retards. I don't understand how anyone could watch the final act especially and think the movie was trying to be accurate or in any way fair to Hansen. Someone please try to defend the "decoy serenades the DA even though the US army is pointing floodflights at his house" scene in particular. Which, of course, had to come after Chris's "you're either with me or the pedophile" line.
>>223396311>His show's fans are either bloodthirsty sadists like the plane guy or yokel "I'll have the Fogle special" retards like the town copsThat says something about who the show appeals to, but it doesn't say anything about Chris Hansen himself. He's clearly weirded out by the guy on the plane but tries to be polite with him>And then he's framed as being responsible for the death of the poor DA who has the decoy sadly singing in his ear.It's not solely his responsibility. It's the responsibility of the entire crew. But is that not true? Do you not agree that aggressively pursuing the DA and overstepping their usual boundaries because they knew it'd be a big catch led to his death?
>>223396494>thinks moralfags are good personsayy lmao fucking smoothbrain faggots in this thread. Go back to plebbit where you belong nigger.
>>223396451I’m not him. But I’ll meat you >>223396500you guys really are the new puritans >>223396503They don’t believe it, they just want you to.
>>223396503>and think the movie was trying to be accurate or in any way fair to Hansen.Who said that? Why would you even care about this?
