>LOL, look at all these normies and wagecucks. They're not even enlightened by their own intelligence.>Now, off to the library to borrow the same manga I've read twice already. It's a NEET's life for me.WTF was this bitch's problem?
>>223807588she needed the knot
>>223807588Disney is teaching girls the wrong lesson as always. It's why modern women are obsessed with "taming the beast" idea.
>>223807588That's how every book girl is.
>>223807588she didn't say this
>>223807759Nah, she pretty much did.>Little town full of little people>There goes the baker with his tray like always, the same old bread and rolls to sell.Then when the baker is nice to her and asks how she's doing despite being busy, she starts sperging out about the last manga she read, before the baker politely cuts her off because he's busy making food for people like her to surivive, and he was just asking to be nice. Belle then rolls her eyes, basically spelling out "lol, fucking normies, amiright?".
There goes the janny being gay, like always. Deletes the good threads, leaves the bad!
>>223807842Neo-Gastonism, the way of the future.
And it really makes me ree when in the 'logue I see, a dozen threads on that crap Obsession!
>>223807588She reads manga and was more enlightened than the christfags in her vicinity. This is how she won the beast bowl. Fuckers thought Gaston was the top of the mountain. Stupid villagers will never know the true power of autism.
>>223808072>This is how she won the beast bowland then the beast immediately turned back into a man, serves her right
>>223808081She made him shave once and regretted it.It grows back.
>>223807658The whole message is to disobey your parents/father. That’s the core of every Disney flick
>>223807588>girl spends all her day reading erotica, refusing to socialise and carrying an air of insufferable arrogance"oh wow, she's so pure!">guy spends his free time watching hentai, refusing to socialise and carrying an air of insufferable arrogance"umm... why is he allowed to live in our society?"
>>223807842Belle sucked.But Gaston was such a jobber retard. He had every girl in town pining for him. He was a respected hero and leader of men.But he threw it all away for a ho who made it very clear she didn't like him.
Smug bitch making herself to be smarter and better than everyone in her village just because she read fantasy books. That's like someone thinking they're smart because they read Harry Potter over and over again. The same applies to Mara Wilson in Matilda.
>>223807588Fixed
>>223807588I'm pretty sure it was always a negative trait, she was lost in a world of books instead of living in the real world.
>>223807812LMAO
>>223807842Based?
>>223808153Lmfaoooo
>>223808282This thread is based>>223809454It’s not portrayed that way though
>>223809189based
>>223808282>The same applies to Mara Wilson in Matilda.>a neglected latchkey kid who finds an escape in books is on par with the village bookthot who thinks she's better than everyone else
>>223809189This is probably how old Disney artists would have draw her if they had been given more freedom
>>223807588Sounds like the average 4channer
>>223810190That's the gist of it. Had Belle been born a man, she would basically be a redditor or a chud, a NEET and r/antiwork frequenter.
>>223807588>manga she wasn't a pleb weeboid
>>223808178They deserve each other lolA match made in hellAn uppity bitch, and an obnoxious dumbass retard with a gun
>>223810252If Belle were ugly or plain she would be nothing at all lol She is admired for her beauty, and only her beauty, she's as empty as the bimbos worshipping Gaston. She just picks a different man to fuck who has more shit.
>>223810020>>a neglected latchkey kid who finds an escape in booksShe wasn't neglected. Her family wanted to spend family time together at dinner and she was "no I'm reading." It was the whole argument that made her blow up the tv.
>>223807588She is too white! Fixed.
>>223807842We'll have six or seven
>>223807588This movie sometimes airs on Disney Junior. It’s for very young children.
>>223807879>all the seemingly innocent slang words you used as a child like “lame” and “gay” are actually ableist and homophobic
>>223810252She IS a Redditor, but she never mentions that she’s female to avoid breaking rule 30.
>>223807588i don't care if she is a stuck up bitch she is too fucking hot.
>>223807842>How can you read this? There's no pictures!
>>223811529Doesn’t Reddit break rule 30 all the time?
>>223810289Ending two sentences with words hat rhymed with Belle made me try to read this post to the tune of Belle (the song). I'm disappointed that wasn't what you were going for.
>>223812549>lol rhymes with hellAre you deaf? Just curious.
>>223810071We know exactly what those old dudes would draw when they have their power limiters removed, which they did for at least one movie
>>223807842I saw an interesting theory once connecting Belle and Gaston to frances revolutions, wonder if I could find it
>>223808153sounds like men's fault for wanting to be the go-getter sex
>>223812713basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfkzRMbA7bs
>>223812689Found it on Reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/qiqzyu/beauty_and_the_beast_the_movie_is_set_after_the/By the theorists own admission it kind of falls apart at the end timeline wise but it otherwise works so well
Would Belle have gotten used to Prince Adam's demon monster-man form, given enough time? Maybe even prefer it? She didn't seem to be into the things that most normal girls would find attractive. Tends to happen when you are reading all sorts of strange shit. It may begin to effect your default tastes
>>223812652>implyingthat's not disney anon that was Don Blueh m8
>>223807588I need a Beauty and the Beast where the MC is the villain Gaston like Wicked, except not gay and retarded like wicked.>Gaston and Belle childhood friends>Gaston promises to marry her when they grow up>become estranged after her mom dies and she retreats into her books>Gaston focuses on becoming a good provider to take care of Belle>Other men don't want Belle because she didn't have a mom to teach her how to be a dutiful wife>Beast gets Belle to stay with him>Rose mysteriously only starts dropping petals after she arrives>Gaston genuinely tries to free her from the castle, but the possessed furniture stops him>He comes back with his gun and loses the fight, but is still alive>Asks to trade places with Belle for her freedom>Belle refuses>last night and the last petal falls>the Beast's castle disappears and Belle is gone forever
>>223813011Dude. Beauty and the Beast is public domain. You can absolutely write a novel or script with this premise.
>>223813091But I'm too scared of writing the parts about the Beast cucking Gaston. And I lack the nuance to make it a subtle faustian deal with the devil.
>>223813091Gaston isn’t in the original fairy tale. He was created for the Disney version.
>>223813371Gaston is a very common name.
>>223807842Wonder if Bell's kids survived the revolution.
>>223807588Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney animated movie and i think it's objectively THE best Disney animate movie ever made.However.It is also absolutely the moviet tha laid out the groundwork for 80-90s generation (now 30-40yo) of girls' toxic anti-patriarchy mindset.Because Belle character is quintesential "Fuck you incel, i'll go do down for an incel with a car and penthouse" and "I want the prince as long as he is just a little bit less of a douche" whore that taught girls all the wrong lessons.
>>223808282Spoken like a true Ordinary Person.
>>223808178no lies detectedI can't imagine not being happy with this
>>223814997she will throw that oven out and get a cheap new chinese one on credit the second anything goes wrong with it instead of exploring any of its marvellous inner workings
>>223807658Other way around, we should go back to teaching women to look pretty and act like women, enough of this ugly girlboss shit of today
>>223813011This would be a pretty solid warning about materialistic women. Just remove the stuff invented by Disney's team, like the living furniture. The old fairy tale versions have invisible servants or animal servants. Gaston probably needs a name change.>>223813699If you use the same name for a similar character, then they have a valid legal case against you. You're free to use the name for an entirely different character.
>>223807658disney didnt invent it, just capitalized on it
>>223808282that library is retarded big. beast is an upper end aristocrat but not the king of england.
>>223816353They kind of did. The Beast is entirely different in the original fairy tale. Disney's Beast starts as an aggressive asshole who needs to be "fixed" by Belle. The original fairy tale Beast acts like a gentleman towards Belle right from when they first meet. The fairy tale is a story of Belle learning to look past appearances, not a story of Belle taming the Beast like the Disney version.
This effect has been understudied. Pathological fiction readers are the same kind of passive do nothing consoomers as anyone else. Women read a fuck ton now and it's all useless junk, arguably worse than useless it feeds into various disorders and maladjustments.Not all information is good.
>>223808178>But he threw it all away for a ho who made it very clear she didn't like him.He didn't do it for Belle. She was kidnapped by a beast. It wasn't about Belle. He would have done the same for anyone from the village who had been kidnapped.He was the village hero.
>>223814997Don't remind me that that shit exists
>>223814970It's one of my favorites too, but it's easy to argue that it appeals to some of the more self-destructive tendencies women have. It's not too far removed from 50 Shades Of Grey. It's a much better work of course, but what I'm saying is that they both probably tickle the exact same parts of the female brain.
>>223808282I knew someone like this, a faggot who read only fiction and mocked me because he read 3 books in the time I read 1. Turns out he was reading best seller slop.
>>223816444True. Just look at Disney Kidults. They all look and think exactly the same
>>223808153We live in a society…barely
>>223815057>that lip bitejfc
>>223815057Belle stinks of animal manure. Bimbettes smell like roses.
It's always funny when the 4chan whelps find another "alpha male" to stan, and start creating fake strawman arguments and competing with literal fictional characters. It's a very entertaining form of mental illness.
>>223816444>Passive do nothing consoomers Whens the last time you were in public? Have you ever helped your neighbors? What about civil and social work, how are you actively helping your community?
>>223817777The fiction reader leads a normal life now, while your seething on 4chan and rapidly approaching middle age.
>>223809189Belle is the best Disney princess.
>>223808137What? The movie was about her trying to save her father.
What are some good non-fiction books?
>>223820858A Brief History of Time
>>223819220I'm 22. Are you talking about yourself?
>>223809189Bigger
>>223819205Im going to the symphony in an hour. We're not all plebs like (You)
>>223820402By disobeying his wishes. She demonstrated love for her father, but not obedience.
>>223807658Disney did not invent that trope, nor even this particular story.
>>223821466>Let me guess, you...>Well he's happy and successful, while you...>At least he's happy and socially adjusted, you instead...When they do retarded posts like that they always are.
>>223814026There were lots of noble collaborators on the side of the Revolutionaries. Indeed, they were the real brains behind it, as is ever the case.
>>223821642All popular revolutions are small nobles attempting to become big nobles
>>223809189It's funny because more women than not are built like this and would casually and comfortably dress like this but some childless and bitter cat piss soaked hag who makes the decisions up top decides how to dictate femininity
>>223816416Probably 90% of it is just a wooden facade painted to look like shelves of books. You laugh, but that is actually a thing, among the pretentious and rich.
>>223821699There's also "filler books" that look like old, impressive hardback tomes but are just empty covers to fill shelf space.
>>223807588Wait a minute. Is Beauty & The Best literally just isekai-tier powerfantasyslop, but for chicks instead of dudes? Woah.
>>223821658The successful ones are, but there's plenty of genuine grass roots uprisings. You can find them under the heading of "failed rebellions". The main problem with the lower classes is they don't know how to build institutional power, so a popular uprising without aristocratic backing tends to fall apart on its own, sometimes even before they achieve any success. It's not even really a question of charisma, intelligence, or education, it's specifically about the skills that go into building dynasties and generational wealth and power. 99% of people do not learn these skills, it's not really relevant to their lives. But if you want to stand up a new government and have it last longer than a generation (at the longest) you'd best have somebody who knows how to do this. Even if you're not trying to create a new royal dynasty you still need people who can think about how to invest and secure power across generations, or your institutions will crumble.
>>223821774That's most of Disney's movies in the 90s actually, Pocahontas and Mulan are the same shit.
>>223821570>people must do everything their tyrant parents tell them to.How obedient are you to your parents?
>>223821859Ok Mr Longpost how does one build institutional power? Is there a yellow idiot's guide available
>>223811512>Hollywood spent gorillons of shekels on, "don't say gay," commercials to try to make kids stop calling stuff they didn't like gay.>Kids still say gay because they have no careers to destroy
>>223821912While I was dependent on them? Almost totally. In that anything I was expressly told to do, I did. But if something wasn't explicitly forbidden to me, I had a little wiggle room, even if I knew they wouldn't approve. I didn't get up to a lot of mischief as a child, I basically never had to be punished more than once for a type of misbehavior.After I moved out, I stopped seeing my parents as an authority in my life. I'm still grateful to them for raising me and maintain a cordial relationship, I see them on most Holidays, etc, but they're not in charge of me anymore so I don't owe them any obedience.
>>223822006Perhaps this is not the board for you: >>>/pol/ is thataway.
>>223821774Heeeeeeere's where he gains a level! But he doesn't get a skill point, till chapter threeeee!
>>223807842Period drama women on suicide watch
>>223807842>kills scifi and fantasy
I always felt this way about Belle. Her whole song is >look at these simple people who have to earn a living by having jobs!>I'm better than them because daddy takes care of me and lets me read all day!As if the baker might not enjoy hobbies too if he didn't have to get up and bake at the ass crack of dawn
>>223822376She’s the type that would have sex the first year, then realize she hates it and give nothing the rest of the relationship
>>223822122>Sheep listening to this autistic bitch rattling on about min-maxxing your xp gainsJust like IRL
>>223821965It is heavily dependent on the society, but essentially it's about stacking the deck, so to speak, to ensure whatever power you have gained does not disappear when you die, but goes into specific peoples' hands. This could be your family, or it could be carefully selected successors. It's not really about gaming inheritance laws (although that is a strategy you can use in some cases) so much as it is creating institutions, titles, and legitimizing forces that you can use to mold the next generation as well as bestow upon them the trappings of leadership that will be recognized by the public. And managing the public is a big part of building power over generations. Indeed, power is really measured in how easily you can command others, without having to use real force to back up your commands. The more easily you are obeyed, the more you can accomplish, because your resources are not wasted on forcing compliance with the most basic of your directives. It is possible for a fairly small amount of force to hold up a much greater amount of effective power, if it is properly institutionalized so that the common people see it as a fact of life. Take paying taxes in the US. People treat this as an inevitability ("death and taxes" etc) and while there are always a few rogues who try to get out of payment, the government nonetheless collects trillions of dollars in tax revenues every year, simply by asking people to do it. That is power not dependent upon one man's charisma or ability, not dependent upon the active use of violence against the people, but the sheer weight of institutional authority.
>>223822376And if the baker doesn't do his job, his neighbors don't have any bread, and get upset about that. Nobody's depending on Belle to show up and condescend prettily to them.
>>223821623True dat. Every accusation is a confession.
