Why are the bad guys not allowed to do bad things anymore?
>>720543495They still are?
>>720543495Yet when the villains are calculating genocidal eugenicists, you say ‘why did they make the villain the good guy?’, and when they make the villain some violent jackass who says nigger, you say ‘leftists are so stupid they really think this is what its like’. You guys compartmentalize all villainy this way
>>720543495safe edgy
>>720543495>Bad guys defend bad guys (aka trannyfaggots)Makes sense to me
>>720543664>full body armor caused first decent looking stonetoss comic ever
>>720543613How do these contradict each other?Different types of villains behave differently and are different Archetypes.A great example is Batman's enemies, among whom are street gangsters, drug dealers and at the same time an ancient order of super ninjas.
>>720543495Name 10 games like this
>>720543495This is realistic. You have to dazzle any progressive-minded individuals before they start thinking.
>>720544042In Days Gone the colonel from the second part of the game has no problem wasting manpower on us the protag and meaningless task because he is insane, but at one point he goes>durr everyone can be a soldier, including tranniesWhich is retarted because he doesn't care about his soldiers.
>>720544236Right wingers will ironically accept anyone if they think they have their loyalty. Their main worry about the outliers is that they wont fall in line
>>720543495But none of those are bad things.
>>720544128So true
>>720543495I get where you're coming from but I think its more just that in said universe it's normalisedI doubt in the army everyone laughs at and bullies the one dude who plays video games or watches anime despite that being a thing 20 years ago.To them, it would be like us laughing at someone who might prefer women with black hair.
>>720543495The only bad thing is not wearing a mask, being a nazi.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD7e8mJJv6o>IT from the sewers from IT, Voldemort (the wizard hitler), Dr. Evil all wear masks, the only ones who don't is nazis that wonder women beats up.
>>720544004Because you blame who you believe to be liberal writers, for both writing villains who dont use slurs, and for writing villains who do. And no matter what happens you start talking about the Joker and posting pictures of angry chuds no matter what anyways
>>720545071No i don't.
>>720545071Because everything should be in its place.I was playing Borderlands recently and one of the local raiders yelled something like "I'm going to fuck your skull"It didn't feel cringe - because it was written into the setting and suited the villain.Now imagine hearing the same phrase, say, from an Imperial stormtrooper.It would sound inappropriate and damn cringe.
>>720543664WHERE IS IT
who was the bad guy here
>>720546489JUST BLAST THE BRIDGE FROM UNDER HIM HOLY SHIT YOU STUPID BUCKET HEADS
>>720544042World of Warcraft
IM GONNA FUCK YOUR SKULL
>>720543495industry is mainly fueled by normalfags who cannot be allowed to experience anything actually badongevery "villain" or "morally grey" character must be a toothless wholesome chungus who does bad things but not reallythey cant risk writing a legitimate villain that lines up with what modern sensibilities consider "evil" without risking people sympathizing in some way and going against conditioning the tiniest bit
>>720543495Why target specific groups when you can make everyone suffer?
>>720543613I think you're missing the point, anon. The issue is that nowadays all characters are bound by restriction like we're back to the age of the comics code authority. Nobody is allowed to have any VERBOTEN opinion unless there's a giant glowing sign saying "STUPID WRONG LOSER" that's pointing at them at all times becaue otherwise the players might think the developers actually support that or some dumb shit like thatSo you get things like picrel where the villain is an evil psychopath but of course he'll still respect your heckin pronouns
>Genocide>Torture>Looting>Rape
>>720543664>>720546023middle chestplate 4th panel
>>720543495Deep down even sȯydevs know that those things are actually good
>>720546892>he doesn't realize that every person you killed during a robbery had a family who loved themThey even had a character who we see life got ruined because he killed her husband, literally fell into prostitution to feed her son. Fucking retard who wrote this has zero empathy.
>>720548924>literally fell into prostitutionShe could have just got a job like a normal person.Whores don't deserve sympathy. They are making a choice to do easy, lazy work.
>>720543495Cyberpunk 2077 basically lolThere's a controversial scene where you get to mock Jesus Christ and there's desecrated porn Catholic imagery in the Mexican gang but otherwise no other bigotry or problematic anti-liberal edge. The city is colonized by an old and evil Japanese WW2 veteran yet nobody is racist against the Japanese. The word "Jap" is never uttered nor is it acknowledged that his megacorp is foreign and hostile, despite the entire genre being born when people were racist against Japanese in the 80s and the word "Jap" was being thrown around almost as much as the word "chink" nowadays, complete with racist WW2 imagery and racist posters/sentiments. Yet nobody minds Arasaka on a racial level despite them employing Japanese exclusive biker gangs to terrorize the plebs on top of parking an entire aircraft carrier in Night City bay.There's a Haitian gang that occupied an entire district and kills cops on sight and not a single "nigger" is heard in the entire game despite even today's elections are being won with "THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS" soundbites lol. There's trannies and fags and even sexual exclusivity but nobody is sexist or homophobic or transphobic. Don't even have an option to say something unsavory despite V dying of cancer and being in the bad mood. No, everyone is a safe-edgy, quirk chungus pizza.tl;dr we need bigotry in media, I'm afraid. It's fun, funny, gritty, realistic natural, expected and engaging. Even subpar lore and world building in Bethesda's Elder Scrolls games get thread to this day talking about Pelinal Whitestrake racist genocide rampage and Imperial vs Stormcloak shitflinging complete with interracial bigotry over druggie cats, enslaved lizards and generally xenophobic elves. Also sexism being a hot and divisive issue. It's what made Caesar's Legion in New Vegas have teeth. But the developers regretted it midway through resulting in Avowed and Outer World feeling hollow. Bring back racism and sexism.
>>720549203Women are incapable of work. You're asking for too much.
>>720543664>4 fingersai slop
>>720549203Her job was to be a housewife, and you took that away from her.
>>720543613Literally no one says that. Stop projecting.
>>720543664Helldivers is different because it falls into the Imperium dilemma, despite the human faction being genocidal, tyrannical and totally dystopic, it's still the human faction. It doesn't matter what it's policies are when it's the only one that won't kill you on sight.
>>720548924>because he killed her husbandYou dumb retard.Her husband died of tuberculosis. Arthur didn't kill him at all
>>720549203Playing edgy will get you nowhere
>>720544612Charlie Kirk himself said that empathy is a sin. He would not want conservatives to insult his religion by feeling bad for him.
>>720549883They do say that and ‘projecting’ isnt just a catch-all
>>720550034Holy fuck the lengths you guys will go to in denying the plot in front of you for the sake of cheap edginess
>>720549910It's also the faction that actually makes sense to be that way given the universe they exist in. Super Earth being on the defensive against 3 different genocidal factions gives them the moral imperative to defend their citizens. So killing all the bugs/bots/squids is pretty justified.
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>>720543613This man raises a good point.Also to the dishonest OP, homophobia, misogony and transphobia are not very meaningful motives for the bad guys. Racism does occur though perhaps more often in the vein of fantasy races against fantasy races.
>>720549258>The word "Jap" is never utteredSaying "Jap" is racist?
>>720550154>retard feigns ignorance after being called outThomas Downes died of tuberculosis, you stupid idiot
>>720550508Yes? Hello??
>>720550508It was shorthand for Japanese in the early to mid 20th century and progressive faggots insist it's a racial slur. Though they think anything is a racial slur if they try hard enough.
>>720550353>This man raises a good pointYou're embarrassing yourself
>>720544612Dris gonna get som neck pain soon
>>720543495Its because our entertainment is used against us as social conditioning and when you begin to notice and mentally piece together logical inconsistencies like this it all starts to fall apart. So you can enjoy your fantasy world under the conditions that it morally aligns with the current year and regime, if it falls outside of that boundry it cant exist and its wrongthink.We're basically reaching a boiling point in this facade of morality plays because as you can see itt for example the concept of who is more empathetic is now being used as a debate tactic. The concept of which protagonist and which villain you align yourself with as your favorite is now a debate tactic, so because of this the characters in the fictional fantasy world have to be outlets for someones irl politics and therefor, since violence is universally accepted as fine entertainment, they can be killers and robbers but they can never ever be sexist racist or homophobic because that would mean you and the creators are those things. And it goes without saying none of us are killers and robbers, because thats ridiculous fantasy territory, meanwhile sexism racism and homophobia are very REAL issues that hit too close to home. Yes this is how people really think. The notion that violence and killing is wrong because life is sacred never occurs in this equation.
>>720550616Fact fact fact aaaaand fact
>Wants new tiberium future for mankind>Convincing arguments against GDI abandoning 70% of the planet to increasing tiberium exposure>Still uses suicide bombers and terror attacks>Uses all 4 of the CBRN weaponry>Casually experiments on followers and civilians>Looks cool as fuck while doing it.If you're going to be evil, at least be stylish and people will be willing to play as you.
>>720549258At the very least you can kill the entire haitian gang either by letting an AI burn their brains out or by just shooting them all.
>>720550072>Charlie Kirk himself said that empathy is a sinHow deeply retarded you are.He also said compassion and sympathy are the most important things and empathy as it's used by leftists is just a cover for egoism
>>720550072Why do you lie so blatantly? He said this about empathy, in full:>I can’t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new-age term, and it does a lot of damage. I much prefer the word compassion, and I much prefer the word sympathy. Empathy is when you try to feel someone’s pains and sorrows as if they’re you’re own, compassion allows for understanding
>>720543495Because you gotta make games to appeal to women now and women don't like anything darker than saturday morning cartoon villains.
>>720550034And what about the hundreds of guys who you shoot to death after robbing them?
>>720551056>Why do you lie so blatantly?Because he’s a liberal, it’s second nature to them. They are also currently trying to lie about the shooter being right-wing.
It's rape isn't it? You want more rape in games. How many rapes do you need to see happen on screen before you're convinced of how evil the villain is?
>>720551363Then you'd have a better argument. Specially for the thousands of policemen you shoot who are just doing their jobs.But the discussion was about Thomas Downes
>>720550945>>720551056>>720551380>the context makes it worsechudcels can't catch a break
We don't really have bad guy characters in media anymore. That said, it's probably a good thing because too many people empathize with negativity.
>>720550553So obtuse. "Nigger" was also just a mangled "Negro" which referred to black people. It became offensive due to context - How and who were using it."Jap" was a hostile term against the Japanese during WW2 and it was hurled even at the innocent Japanese civilians living in the US at the time which eventually led them to being imprisoned in concertation camps. During the Japan bashing era of the 80s the slur was resurrected, once again in very hostile and hateful context because the Japanese industries were outcompeting the Americans at their own game. Everyone was seething at the Japanese back then and they often talked about "HOW DARE SOMEONE WHO WE DEFEATED IN WW2 COME HERER AND BUY OUR LAND". Random Asian-Americans were getting harassed, beaten and even killed like Vincent Chin (who was Chinese but they killed him thinking he was some Japanese that took their job) because the racism was out of control and even encouraged by the government, legislators and lawyers."Jap" is absolutely a racist slur, crack open a book this wasn't even that long ago. Trump is still bullying Japan like with Nippon Steel xenophobic remarks. Just because the Japanese are largely polite and don't often speak English to counter you doesn't mean it's your green light to be a scumbag.
>>720552152no thats not a good thing, you are saying a core conceit of storytelling shouldnt exist because people like it. Im convinced you are a bot.
>>720552183Yeah, and now "nigga" is used as shorthand often to refer to an individual person, either someone else or the speaker. "Can a nigga borrow a fry?" where nigga is obviously not being used as a racial slur....provided your black enough to say. Which paradoxically means that despite the word changing definition over time, it's still somehow racist based on the speaker and not the context at all. IE you can be black and say nigga, you can't be white and say nigga even if used in exactly the same context. To which I say, nigga that's racist.
>>720551890>But the discussion was about Thomas DownesIt wasn't you just hyper focused on that.
>>720543495Because the people in power ARE the bad guys, now.
>>720550513He was brutally beaten while he was sick and did not recover and died. Yes this is more complicated than a raw murder but you’d have to be obtuse to call it an innocent non-manslaughtery beating
>>720543664I love how everyone who says they have media literacy, has no fucking political literacy, sociological literacy, any sort of literacy that would support media literacy in any way beyond making themselves look like jokes. These same people then attempt to actually write or direct shit, and it's some of the worst most braindead bullshit that ends up being a parody, in one way or another, of the very shit they love to insult and criticize for being poorly thought out.Both the right and left are guilty of this shit.
>>720552345Right but when you use slurs youre using slurs. Obama didnt call anyone nigga in any official context, except in that biography
>>720549203Sex work is work
>>720552345The speaker is part of the greater context. Whatever that's irrelevant to what I'm saying."Jap" is absolutely a racist slur, used negatively in war and then being recycled against a meek populace that was dumbfounded by the gall of entitled shitmericans seething. It carries almost as much as baggage as the slur "gook". "Gook" being worse since the wars it was used in lasted longer and were applied to different ethnicities - enforcing the racist "ARR ROOK SAME" sentiment.End of story.
>>720543613>Yet when the villains are calculating genocidal eugenicists, you say ‘why did they make the villain the good guy?'Well? answer the question.
>>720552523Yet it's somehow only a racial slur based entirely on the speakers race. This one word has caused more problems than any other and it's impressive to see how people will use double speak to explain how it's racist when practically anyone saying it will rarely use nigga as the slur instead of just using nigger. So which is it? Is it racist because it's a derivative of nigger, or is it not because it's a different word entirely?
>>720550072>Charlie Kirk himself said that empathy is a sin.So your solution is to emulate him as a gotcha moment and become every bit a dumb horrid Human being you attempt to ascribe to him in your Strawman fixations. This is why Democrats are now purging retards who gloated over his death, you retards aren't interested in any moral or ethical restraint, you want to weaponise and use excuses to kill as much as your enemies, because both of you live in a "they will do it and so will I" vicious cycle. It doesn't matter who started it first or when, what matters is you want to masturbate with blood around your dick and then make justifications and excuses for it when your root psychology is fucked.
>>720550072and i hope leftists do not want conservatives not cancelling them
>>720551056>guy who asked Kirk a last quesion gets interviewed >says the point of his question was to prove the left is not violentlollmao
>>720550353>This man raises a good point.If you're a historically illiterate trog, maybe.The current era of homophobia, misogony and transphobia was just called 'normal' 100 years ago and is still called normal in most of the world. So it makes no sense for a futuristic empire to share exactly the same societal values we share today when even normal societies don't share the values we do today.
>>720552667Out-race hate crimes/violations are considered more important than in-race equivalents. I understand your point but its not that out of the question
>>720550072that's not what he said at all and even if he did: he wasn't saying you should feel nothing at someone shooting someone you retard. way to keep accelerating, though.
>>720552793Well shit, by that logic they could still be transphobic and all those other things for entirely new, futuristic reasons. The troons have gone one step too far and attempted a genocide of the womenfolk and have been branded a terror group on the fringes of society. BAM, transphobia now in the future and totally justified.
>>720552667You're dishonest and obvious btw
>>720552183Jap is just short for japanese, if they said the full word would you consider japanese to be a slur? It's the same thingReal slurs are constructs of observations used in a derogatory way
>>720552793Its speculative fiction nigga they make it up
>>720552884You're probably a faggot, and not my nigga.
>>720552886Based double digit IQ illiterate retard.
Charlie Kirk was one of the goodest shabbos goys in all of America. Who gives a shit about that faggot? Why is this thread about fictional bad guy armies in vidya being infested with /pol/shit anyway?
>>720552886Abbreviations such as Gyp can be considered a slur. Japanese would have been fine
>>720546570He would use the force to anime his way out of the situation. Also they clearly don't have any sappers or heavy weaponry capable of destroying the bridge. The only reliable way to kill a trained force user is by overwhelming them. What they should do in that situation is form a firing line and fire simultaneously in a wide spread, rather than charging down the bridge double file like retards. Even then, he'd probably just jump away. Jedi are bullshit like that.
>>720552873In most oppressive empires in recorded human history, the first thing that happens is the oppression of women. Second thing that happens is ethnic cleansing or eugenics through evicting foreigners or decrees against fraternizing with them. Maoist China is a great example, how do you reconcile with your country being made of over a hundred flavors of ethnic Chinese when you want your master race to be Han? You just starve them all. Kill 100 million people and suddenly, you don't have as many ethnic minorities. I get why leftoids want to pretend that this isn't a real thing because le hungry hammer is the leading cause of this kind of cleansing in the 20th century.
>>720543495Because those aren't bad guy things, they're good guy things.
>>720550072Idk havent seen much empathy from leftoids about that chick that got stabbed for no reason either. Basically just proves his point, people use their “empathy” selectively when its politically convenient.Definitely a muh both sides issue for sure
>>720553054Theyre progressives, its their philosophy to believe certain values prevail over time
>>720553189It's their prerogative to continue pushing the envelope in spite of any logical reason as to why you would do that. It's why a bunch of pedos tried to include themselves into the LGBT+ movement and they couldn't really deny them because after gays and trannies, who else could you really push as an oppressed class?
>>720553265Some pedos showing up doesnt mean progressives support them. Sure youve got your ideologues but no most progressives dont in fact consider pedophilia to be part of their movement
>>720553329Yeah, well people said most progressives don't support violence and that turned out to be a fucking lie. I bet more of them DO support it, but are just smart enough to know not to say it openly.
>when some leftist cuckolds whine about the Imperium of Man being fascist somehow being bad>while omitting or ignoring the fact that the Galaxy has literal fucking magic, demons, gods or quasi-gods, shitshows such as the tyranids that even the fucking Tau stopped trying to reason with, and that every average person around you can spontaneously activate latent psyker powers and be used as a fucking conduit to doom an entire planet of billions of lives to eternal torture and destruction because they were having a moment of hurtie feelie and emotional instability giving them a crashoutYou think Democracy will work in such an environment you retarded fucking idiots? Woko Haram are as braindead media illiterate as right wing youtube grifters.
>>720553390I couldnt tell you, thats a matter of your own interpretation of them. If you really are taking this Charlie Kirk thing as ‘the last straw’ then i expect you were looking to draw that conclusion in the first place. Either way its up to you to see if it ends up mattering
>>720553526NTA but I mean were still only in year one of trump presidency part deux and this is happening. Usually after stuff like this it doesnt get better
>>720553439>You think Democracy will work in such an environment you retarded fucking idiots?That's what God Emperor would've wanted
>>720553439Warhammer as a setting can never have good things happen period, because otherwise the world breaks.
>>720548924The dude died of TB. Shaking someone with TB does not kill them you silly billy.The point is he's more liberal than people today. Do you think the writers think kissing trannies is a bad thing? Even the biggest libtard wouldn't kiss a tranny.
Because people don't want to see it. It's the same reason games have plenty of murder but no rape. If your game villain is being a racist or oppressing gays or whatever it makes sensitive people uncomfortable and they stop playing.This is a very simple issue but 4chan always acts like games are realistic when they argue about it. Retarded
>>720553439Well quite frankly I think democracy doesn't work very well even in the best circumstances. So fuck democracy and go back to the monarchy. At least then we might get an actual noble class that does a better job pretending to care about their subjects.
>>720553734After somehow purging or starving the Chaos Gods sure, or setting off some kind of dominoe that lights up the Warp and cleanses it like a pool of gasoline being set alight till the Warp goes back to being calm like millions of years ago. However that plan flopped. It's an Epilogue story, not a current age story.
>>720553439Its a really awful government to live under even if the fiction is written to justify it. I enjoy the fantasy but writing giant fascist governments by saying there are even bugger scarier niggers out there isnt going to sit well with a progressive (and for me is part of the fun itself)
>>720543613Who is this she/her quoting?
>>720553689Youll end up seeing phases of conflict and synthesis settle into synthesis, as he have this whole time
>>720553895Whole point of 40k is to show how dysfunctional current system of government is. People eat corpse starch while rulers have resort worlds just for them, rulers at top get corrupted because they're so decadent. It's a setting which democracy and atheism would improve
>>720553836The reasons that cause discomfort are whats being discussed sorry you want every discussion to have the depth of a puddle because it makes you yourself uncomfortable if people want to probe further.
>>720554104>Why don't games have X?>Because people don't want X. The game will perform worse if X is included>WOOW YOU WANT DISCUSSIONS TO HAVE THE DEPTH OF A PUDDLE? WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS?get cancer
>>720554051Atheism and democracy aint stopping the nids
>>720554197Ok so I was right, you dont want the discussion to go beyond "ppl get uncomfortable and thats not good" because you personally dont like it. Sounds like you need to grow up and learn to ignore threads dealing with difficult topics you dont like instead of charging in headfirst and telling people to get cancer.
>>72055405140k as a setting already tried both of those things and their failures directly lead to the hellhole that is the current era. That's like saying "well we tried communism and killed a 3rd of our own population and destroyed our economy....maybe we should try it again but this time will be different".
>>720554051Yeah, if they didn't face retarded challenges and the Human imperfection itself constantly rotting everything away. The more densely Humans are packed, the more retarded they become and start murder sprees and breakdowns, with compensatory cope beliefs to follow which fracture shit. See city crime as opposed to way lighter rural crime.On the other hand, the more you distance Humans from each other, like in rural, the more fringe distance creates individual cultural pockets distanced from a base culture, with creativity fueling other modes of retardation that also create collision between the pockets further down the line. Probably the only one who got it right was Frank Herbert. You can't fix Humanity as a whole. The only good solution is to spread it as far and wide as possible, with the distance being such that no matter how many cultures, religions, ideologies, are sprouted at whichever planet or plane of existence, the conflict between them can never be responsive enough to erase Humanity itself due to distance, resource strain, and time requirements. In that aspect the Dispersal Theory of Dune's God Emperor is the best case scenario.Sadly it doesn't apply to 40k Universe, or rather the Milky Way Galaxy. It hasn't been validated yet if the Warp as a phenomena exists in other Galaxies, and whether they even have life anymore what with Nyds scouring them. Another solution then is the Xeelee solution, which is similar to what the Old Ones attempted albeit at a way more primitive scale and strategy.
>>720553835I'm sure when you're as far-right as you are then even centrists look left-wing to you.
>>720553390I mean 15 years ago they vehemently insisted they didn't want to strip the second amendment from the constitution as a precursor to stripping out the first and claimed anyone who said so was a conspiracy theorist.Now they don't even bother to deny it. A day before the election you had Kerry and Clinton saying the first amendment was a historic mistake lmao. And they're the so-called "moderates".
>>720554286get cancer
>>720552756>all of the lefties thinking the pro-2A guy getting shot is some kind of own when they themselves are cheering for what they believe is someone shooting the mouthpiece of a tyrannical anti-american regime
>>720554319It has been tried in 40k, whole point of Horus heresy was that Emperor was kneecapped by the chaos gods and everything he intended to happen didn't. Despite promoting atheism you end up with the imperial cult, civic freedoms disappear as one of the major characters in the books was a journalist documenting a primarch iirc.>>720554701It wasn't humans who ruined things, it was Horus with his weak aura
>>720555292hasn't*
>>720555154and the calls for gun control even though the gun used was a bolt action rifle, something you can get in the fucking UK
>>720555292Even before the Emperor, in the Dark Age of Technology mankind was some super democratic highly advanced progressive society...then the warp storms kicked in and all the alien races mankind was "allied" with betrayed them en masse. THEN you had the Men of Iron going rogue and nearly wiping out mankind. Humanity at one point DID have all that progressive hippy dippy shit, but it fell apart almost immediately upon the first disaster that struck it. Meanwhile as bad as the Imperium is, it's still able to withstand multiple civilization shattering events back to back, either due to size or the sheer dogmatic belief system of the people within it.
I'm just really itching for well written villains or villain factions in general. They've been in very short supply for a long, looong time.
>>720555630Nah, Tzeentch prevented emp from doing all that shit so it must've been good, humans just lost
>>720554286Or he just answered the question with the correct answer. If you have more to add, go ahead. You're complaining about nothing.
>>720555292>It wasn't humans who ruined things, it was Horus with his weak auraI mean, Humans didn't ruin it, but they did contribute to it. If it were not Humans, another sentient species would have all-in-all, since emotional energy from the presence and development of souls, coupled with creativity making for a wide specter of both positive and negative mental conceptions, would accelerate the growth and creation of Chaos Gods. They already existed before Humanity as weak entities, or rather in weakened slumber somewhat akin to the Necrons in a kind of Warp Coma to stave off emotional hunger as Galaxy was setting itself up with sentient life again; but that sentient life developing was also the trigger and fuel for their reawakening.The big "plan", which may have been owed to the Old Ones, was creating a species that has a soul neither strong nor weak, just perfectly balanced enough to neither feed the Chaos Gods too much nor succumb too easily to its own powers, and have a kind of golden timeframe during which it could extricate itself by creating the anti-Warp measures. That shit the bed too with accelerated soul development among Humanity. Tau will get the same treatment, sooner or later their faint almost non-existent souls will also start to grow and glow brighter, and they'll end up a shitshow as well since they are themselves a parody of Humanity.
>>720553054>Maoist China is a great example, how do you reconcile with your country being made of over a hundred flavors of ethnic Chinese when you want your master race to be Han?The KMT-led Republic of China which overthrew the Manchu-led Qing dynasty in 1911 did so thanks to racism against the Manchu. They reused the Taiping mottos of "Restore the Han overthrow the Man" and people started cutting off their queue braids. This escalated to full blown racism and attacks on the Manchu minority which made little sense since they weren't really in the control of the colonies anyway. When the Republic of China's government - the KMT - lost the war against the communists they fled to Taiwan. On Taiwan this racist sentiment persevered and they started killing and oppressing the minorities on the Taiwan island leading to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan) because they were the Han supremacists at the time.The communists on the other hand protected the Manchurians against the racist sentiment of the KMT rulers during the civil war. And when the People's Republic of China was established they expanded the official minority list of ethnicities to 40 then to 55. This lead to some funny exchanges like "I was Han yesterday but today I'm Yi." That's the complete opposite of what you were claiming. That's actually splitting not just the North-South Han divide but the provincial Han in smaller regional groups.What's more these recognized minorities didn't have 1 child policies applied to them - leading them to multiple over the years. Maoist China was the opposite of Han nationalism. Hanfu wasn't even represented in those official murals before just a few years ago.>You just starve them all. Kill 100 million>OY BEY THE GOMMIE DEMON KILLED 6 GORILLIONS MINORITIES lolChina's population doubled under Mao. From half a billion to a billion. Thanks to "Barefoot Doctors" and other policies.
>>720556062Taiwan is a country and China is a prison.
>>720543495People question this but it is pretty obvious. It is because all of the people who would right actual controversial villains in this way don't include these groups in their works. That itself isn't a problem and is in fact natural as most people have to force themselves to include all the random minorities as it simply isn't what they are interested in. This leads to there being no opportunities for the villain to be homophobic or racist. Misogyny is actually not too uncommon for a villain or morally grey character, and this is because women are the other half of the species and thus will nearly always be featured in a work. As for the slavery, fascism, ethnic cleansing, etc. You mostly don't see that because it would mess with the tone of the work. More dramatic works still feature these things. The real place that media truly is weak is sex related topics. You'll pretty much almost never see a character rape or be attracted to a teenager or any other sexual act considered immoral by the mainstream, even bad guys you aren't meant to care about. Even the most mature works still may dance around the topic of sex alone. You'll have hordes of barbarians raze a city and just simply kill the women and girls instead of raping or taking them as wives/sex slaves. Most of this stuff is reserved for pornographic works even when it would make sense in a serious one.
>>720556062Suppose you're also pro-Israel?
>>720543613>they make the villain some violent jackass who says niggerName ONE game please
>>720543495What?
>>720546892I find it quite amazing that the tables were largely flipped when it came to something like writing protagonists into antagonists when it came to TV vs. Video Games. Everyone loved praising the living fuck out of Kojima, but his writing proves largely that his sense of screenwriting and pacing is horrendous, he has genuine issues tackling heavier and more impactful topics (despite his settings always having military or anti-war themes) in comparison, many TV centric episodic shows have had quite well written villains and quite well paced storytelling and it has very little to do with the medium. As a whole, storytelling has declined after boomers have peaced out of the industry.
>>720556316Sorry I had to shit down your neck like that redditbro.
>>720556603>Everyone loved praising the living fuck out of KojimaYou sure?
>>720543495>homophobia, misogyny, racism and transphobiaYou just described Soviet Union
>>720556062yeah yeah your meme country where comparing the leader to a cartoon bear can get you sentenced to death is so great and wonderful, Ping Pong
>>720556692Until Phantom Pain and MGS4, at the very least. Besides that, his influence has still been very heavily inflated in the industry as a whole for decades on end.
>>720556424Of course not. Palestinians are Dandelions. The imperial evil will be defeated.
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>>720556724Also wrong. Your brain is a rape victim.For a truth-seeking redpilled warrior that sees through fake and gay news you're surprisingly gullible.
Why are unironic CCP shills allowed to run rampant on every part of the internet nowadays?
>>720556453>>720556281
The Nepal situation is pretty interesting, so basically never ever ban social media since its great at keeping the plebs busy. The tiktok ban might have been the one actual time USA might have had something close to a revolution again. Why are we so addicted to the bread and circus bro
>>720543495Trench Crusade is probably the most retarded example of this. They're a fascist church setting but by god if you misgender someone
>>720543495isnt this basically 40k? and reminder xenophobia isnt racism, all humans are equal because everyone can hold a lasgun
>>720556875Do you think taiwan is an independent country or nah?
>>720557232Most people wouldn't mind living in an authoritarian dystopia if they had bread and circuses. The only reason anyone doesn't like the idea is because they can't guarantee the leadership would be friendly to their specific entertainment and wouldn't ban it. If everyone were given a decent property, paid enough monthly, could spend that on whatever they want, and the system was guaranteed to hold up (since this is really unfeasible currently), they wouldn't care if they couldn't make fun of the government. In the end, we only really care about the pursuit of happiness. Banning entertainment is always one of the worst choices people in power can make.
>>720550072Here's the full quote " I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage. But, it is very effective when it comes to politics. Sympathy, I prefer more than empathy. That's a separate topic for a different time."As always, leftie faggots can only lie and be disingenuous.
>>720557552It's the last remnant of the Republic of China, and makes the CCP seethe endlessly simply by existing.
>>720557552Trannies will never be women.Taiwan will never be a country.
>>720557825Unless they're like to pretend they're ftm.Then they will always be fermale
>>720551996someone should rape his daughter when she turns 10 and force his family to raise the child like he said he would have wanted.the absolute state of righty cucks.
>>720557552It clearly ain't if it needs to depend on USA to keep itself afloat, while USA is dependent on CCP or else the economy crashes and civil war begins - which is hilariously USA's own fault for creating China into what it is today and giving it all the production power. Americans fuck up everything in the long run as usual.
>>720557232You're missing additional context. The social media ban came in because people were posting and exposing the elite and their children's mass corruption. In response they came out to protest and the state tried gunning them down, but Nepal is a small weak country so didn't have the power to pull it off and got overthrown instead.If they tried that in the US, the government wouldn't hesitate to open fire and start running over protestors with tanks or bombing them.
>>720558072Boomers that get mad at china are always so funny, like you greedy niggers are the reason they are this relevant at all.
>>720558665They'll always be the most hypocritical generation. It's like when they complain about everything being plastic these days. You stupid fucks own all the companies that wrap/make everything in plastic to save a few bucks you dumb cunts.
>>720559697Boomers have progressives' remorse.
>>720559916Quite possible. They're essentially the "first" progressive generation, at least from a 20th century perspective.
>>720550192Yeah but bugs are not some sort of tyranid/zerg faction that needs to devour everything, they're literal cattle revolting because they're being exterminated for their oil. Bots just want their planet back and would leave Super Earth alone if they returned it. AFAIK squids are assholes though, I don't remember what humanity did to piss them off
>>720543495I don't mind if they are all of that, but I don't mind if they're not cartoonishly evil either. Mix it up, you know. Homophobic empire to the west, racist Confederacy to the east, misogynistic caliphate to the north, etc. give the world some color
>>720553875A noble class that gets occasionally pruned by violent uprisings is probably the way to go
>>720552793>was just called 'normal' 100 years agoYe ye and shitting in an outhouse was as well but maybe you aspire to that normal as well?
>>720556786Broken clock, etc.
>>720543495>you wont see us doing slaving or facismBut we do?
>>720561063The last time the noble class got pruned was during the first world war. Now it's just a bunch of faggoty bean counters in control instead.
>>720556018Im responding to his answer with another fact, so now its you complaining about complaining which is just as pointless as you were leveling at me. Lets keep it going until the thread is just posts you personally approve of. Because somehow telling people to get cancer isnt baseless complaining to your selective insight.
>another made up, thinly-veiled political propaganda post that will be reposted endlessly and ultimately just be used to say having a black person on the evil team is DEI
>>720555040I will outlive you and you cant stand it. You are a morally wrong person, your view of reality is wrong.
VIOLENCE*GLLLBLLRRKLLRR*
>>720561148100 years ago plumbing was a brand new thing that all of the civilized parts of the world were implementing into every part of their cities that could feasibly be put in. The sewers of London were constructed nearly a hundred years ago and have still been in use ever since. It's one of the unsung engineering marvels of the 20th century, but nobody really cares about that.
>>720551657At least one would be nice. Zero across every bad guy is just suspiciously low.
You know whats the most funny to me is all of this is revealing how leftists think racists literally want to round up black and brown people and kill them all, they literally think that. They cant go five seconds without projecting their bloodlust onto the world and people around them. They love to point out how most of /pol/ is brown then scream about evil racists in their next breath. Maybe YOU want your ideological enemies dead, as this is proving, but most people who make "le dark humor" jokes about women and minorities dont actually want women and minorities dead or brutally shot. Its you who imagines that because YOU want your ideological enemies brutally killed. Holy shit.
>>720551996>don't do anything productive and try to ensure this doesn't happen again, just pray to my fake god who keeps letting this happen
>>720561528Honestly, gor what he deserved and called for, he just never imagined he personally would be on the recieving end of it all.Which is what makes it funny.
>>720551657Lets start with 1 rape per 3 hours and go from there.
>>720561690dandadan has every other villain of the week attempt to gangrape the female lead so you can just watch that if you want
>>720561797People like you regularly voice such sentiments here.
>>720561797>schizo wall of text
You just need to branch out and try reading new things.
>>720543495It's an effect of Introspective and Feeling types in jungian psychology which you'll find most often in writers rooms these days, they can't externalise the motivations and rationalisations of others, if they write a bad guy being bad, then it's like they are being bad. All of their mental energy is pointed inwards to their internal world, they can't simulate foreign ideas in the abstract.
Why is it especially inporrant for you to have the bad guy be a racist or a homophobe? Then you would just whine about it because you would call it preachy propaganda or as>>720543613Said go>hurr durr he da good guyThere are other evil motives a villain can hold.
>>720561528>>720561805Hope he made sure his kids saw it all. Kids should watch public executions afterall.BANG BANG motherfucker>JD vance crying so hard out of fear his cheap guyliner is running down his cheeks
>>720556062@grok what happened in tiananmen square
>>720562263It's not that it's especially important, but that its complete abscence is glaringly noticeable.
>>720562675>but that its complete abscence is glaringly noticeable.So it is important to you.Also racism is certainly in games, as said earlier, mostly in a fantasy/scifi format and less>omg kill da niggersWay
>>720561890ill occasionally talk mad shit about women and minorities but its mostly to get shit off my chestthere seems to be certain kinds of personalities who, when they participate in internet discussions, end up becoming successfully gaslighted by the collision of so many malevolent ideas and concepts designed to disenfranchise and demoralize those who read themin particular people who didnt grow up with a balanced in take of fucked up realities or incidents and are incapable of reconciling what happened back then with how things are actually like right now in their own space-time region are the ones who will easily be tricked into believing the sky is falling 24/7/365people need to step back and examine their surrounding environment and circumstances instead of focusing on things happening a million miles away
>>720543495Because convincing depictions of bigotry is an endorsement of it or something. Not that it makes much of a difference, as the audience still tends to gravitate towards the thinly-veiled strawmen regardless.
>>720553026reflect ALL the shots back at all of them by spinning the light saber*
>>720556786Mao used to be pro-Taiwanese independence thoughmake of this what you will
