Which cast would (you) rather stay with?
>>720673460Everyone on the top row is an asshole and most of the bottom row have aura
>>720673460When you put their designs side by side you realize how much better Undertale's are (also most of the UT cast is smiling while Yellow's looks depressed lol)
>>720673460bottom row, but undyne is built different once she gets over her desire to kill all humans.
>>720674227yellows cast has either smiles or decisively neutral expressions.
>>720673460so do they all just get away with killing six kids
>>720673460I wouldn't mind hanging out with Papyrus, Undyne, Napstablook, and Asgore. The rest of the group can go to hell. Bottom row has a couple cute anthro girls, even if they're both terminally retarded, and Clover is cool. So its a toss up.
>>720673460Go stay with YOUR cast on >>>/vg/
>>720673460How is this even a question? Undertale completely mogs.
>>720674503If the jannies did their job, every permanent general like this and DALL-E would be banned from /v/.
>>720674227Ironic considering six of the nine people on the top are depressed.
>>720673460I like Martlet and Ceroba
>>720674553Did Toby do anything for the 10th anniversary?
>>720674791Some new merch, a concert in London, special issue of Famitsu, a website where people could talk to an echo flower about what undertale means to them. I think that's it?
>>720674791Not yet. Even though it's the anniversary on nippon, I expect a newsletter only later on today.
>>720674491>>720674281I dont know how papyrus slipped my mind there, I guess its because its a default that he's just a real one. papyrus and undyne for me, otherwise the yellow cast, even taking my odds around syringes.
>>720674365it's OK they got better
>>720675043Imagine false pacifist Clover crawling out of his grave like Caleb from Blood.
>>720674503fortunately its ingrained into the rules of /v/ that just because a game is discussed on /vg/ it doesn't mean you aren't allowed to talk about it on /v/! hopefully you understand the rules of this site a little better now
>>720673460The bottom cast preformed an assisted suicide on a child. This alone disqualifies them. Except Dalv he gets a pass.
>>720674503>Silksong threads>Andry & Leyley threads>Slay the Princess threads>Dandy's World threads>/vpol/ threads>Dall-E AI slop threads*crickets*>Undertale Yellow threads>NOO WE CAN'T HAVE THAT ON /V/Why the double standard?
>>720675628In an ideal world jannies would ban all of this.
>>720675168>false pacifist Cloverimmediately kills Asgore upon waking up
>>720673460>have to choose between spider pussy and squirrel pussyfuuuck
>>720675691>ideally jannies would ban yellow threads that aren't a general because... I dont like it!what a world we live in.
>>720675043surely the six children they murdered won't be a problem, they won't tell anyone or come for revenge
bottom looks mid so top
>>720675691but this is not a perfect world
>>720675043>the human SOULs are still aliveWhat did they do in the timeline where this happens?
>>720673460Looking at this has made me think about how crowded my fangame's main cast is. Undertale has 8 main characters, while mine has 10.
>>720674365Asgore killed all of them and in Neutral he dies then has his soul erased. In True Pacifist you gotta assume that the Souls forgave him when they were released.
>>720675505The top cast just killed the kids manually though.
>>720675043The dead kids are dead. I really don't like revival theory.
>>720675784It's True Pacifist. The Good End. The one where everybody gets a happy ending except Flowey.
>>720675886I know it would be anticlimactic but I think they'd just straight up leave and forever let monsters be trapped down there. Pandora's box and all.
>>720676310That's literally what actually happens. They move to the afterlife.
>>720676229yeah but it's hard to suspend my disbelief when there's so many potential problems
>>720676159I like revival theory if only because Im a sap and I want clover to get a happy ending, and while he's a fanfiction character I simply cant seperate him from the story in my mind after going through yellow.
>>720676159and yet there is no alternative explanation as to why the coffins are empty
>>720676583is that supposed to be kanako
>>720676673no idea, I get a "dunebuddy" impresion but it doesn't look like the ones we see
>>720676583It's weird how this fanfic stuck to 4chan versus all other fancontent.
>>720676739because it gets very close to being perfect but the devs fumbled the bag in just a way where it tickles everyone's autism just right to want to fix it
>>720676583Clover will be forever canon in my heart. I did a playthrough of Undertale after yellow and killed Asgore with the empty gun and had the cowboy hat as my armor.
>>720676819It's far from perfect in my opinion, but it has to be something to get a permanent not!general.
>>720676819its pretty much this, and despite some cringy lines, its not filled with that self aware type of ironic humor, the ways in which they failed, happened while trying to make something sincere
>>720676618I just assume Toriel buried them when Frisk was knocked out.
>>720676449The entire ending demands you stop thinking about it and just accept you got the golden ending, everyone but one is happy, you won, good job. Realistic consequences are for Neutral. True Pacifist is monsters not just leaving their hole in the ground but integrating perfectly into human society like the Monster War never happened and people's paranoia over soul stealing fiends is no longer a thing.Dead kids having beef with Asgore is really the least of the issues you have to overlook to accept True Pacifist.
>>720677021thats reasonable enough, but I still stand by just wanting to believe that clover got to live a life on the surface with monsters that had a few years to realize how fucked it was that they let a child die.
>>720677082I get the impression when looking at the true pacifist is its not saying "dont think about it" and more "some way or another it gets resolved for the best in this ending". its a happy ending down to the bits and pieces
>>720677021That's too short of a time frame to bury five coffins and still be outside waiting for Frisk. You need to face the fact that Clover lives.
>>720675775>ideally jannies would ban yellow threads that aren't a general because... I dont like it!I look like THIS and I say THAT.
>>720675043Cloverbros we are so back
>Souls: How dare you kill us!>Humans: How dare you kill our kids!>Asgore: Eight kids fell down the same hole in the same mountain over the course of years and not once did anyone ever show up to rescue them. Me killing them was wrong but so was you leaving them to die.
>>720677405We don't know how long the time frame is. Burying people can be quick.
Hey pregnancy drawanon, did any of those requests from last time end up catching your eye?
>>720677639asgore would not be the one to say this because first he wouldnt say it to the souls due to his guilt, and second he wouldnt bother defending himself at all due to how he handled guilt. I could see someone else coming in and saying it but it really isn't much of a valid rebuke to the souls themselves
>>720677701NTA, but I feel like there would've been a detail about that if that happened.
>>720677838I can say the same about the dead coming to life.
>>720677639missing 411 cases are a thing anon
The reasons the monsters integrated so easily is that all the children were actually unwanted children purposely thrown down the unwanted child disposal hole.
>>720677639It's really funny how many dudes on here leap to defend Asgore when Asgore is so disgusted with his own actions that he kills himself
>>720678225its because to be fair he WAS in a really shitty situation locked in a holy for untold time as leader of the people locked in the hole. the game does put it on you after all whether or not to forgive him.
>>720677917Why would you introduce 5 brand new characters at the end of the story when you can just give a silent nod by having the coffins opened. The alternative is that someone opened a casket and pulled out a corpse, carried them to an unspecified point and buried them in the underground.
>>720678225That's why we defend in. The man had not a single ounce of malice in his heart. He just wanted to do what was best for his people.
>>720677917The details present point more towards the humans resurrecting than just being buried off screen.I'm not saying it 100% happened, but all the monsters came back to life when Asriel let their souls go, and we know for a fact that most monsters' bodies disappear and die as soon as their souls are taken, which means asriel reversed death for basically all of monsterkind when he gave them their souls back. I don't see why he couldn't use his power to bring the humans back to life on top of that.
>>720678407Because literally reviving the dead would be a very big deal, especially when Toriel is so pissed at Asgore. You would expect at least Toriel to mention that she has new kids to take care of if they really revived.
>>720673460>Yellow's cast looks better>Yellow's cast is also infinitely more insufferable and have a penchant for yapping when you aren't putting a bullet between their eyesI will choose Undertale's cast.
>>720676897What did you think of the original UT? Also directing this towards anyone else who didn't think Yellow was great or even particularly good.
>>720674715that would leave you with basically no threads lolsubcommunities and having a thread catalog are part and parcel, you cannot have one without the other without overbearingly enforcing a rule against itthe only reason anybody gives a shit is generational trauma from pokemon generals and homestuck general
>>720675727Mammalian pussy is just tuesday. It's not every day you get to fuck a spider.
>>720678518Fairness, no monster have true malice in their hearts (cause UT lore is kinda dumb). Asgore definitely put himself between a rock and a hard place so it is reasonable to not be sympathetic to him. But I also do think the games give him way too hard a time for a very rough moral quandary, especially given how few monsters are even capable of going to war. Even Undyne still dies to child.Toby really should have specified the raw power of BOSS Monsters compared to normal ones more. If he really want to say Asgore's indecisiveness is a sin worthy of raw contempt from even his ex-wife, it really needs to say that Asgore really could have curbstomped a good portion of humanity with any number of SOULs.
What would happen if Clover's body was injected with determination and he became a goner?
>>720678601It's stated you can take the SOUL of an alive monster with incredible power. Asriel didn't kill them in anyway.
>>720678675>You would expect at least Toriel to mention that she has new kids to take care of if they really revived.Maybe they didn't revive as children, or maybe they didn't run straight towards the nearest group of monsters given that each of them died to monsters just before being jar'd.Them being alive doesn't mean they'd run straight to Toriel, they'd more likely go off to try and find whatever monster friends they had before they died, or just head for the surface.
>>720675947>my fangame's main cast iswhich game?
>>720679015Toriel canonically took care of each child that fell in. I feel like she would at least mention that the children she took care were revived.
>>720678601Monsters barely have a soul and their bodies are 99% magic. It's not remotely the same. There's also the thing about SAVE/LOAD just rewinding time in the Omega Flowey fight to resurrect Frisk whenever he dies, it's almost certainly the same sort of thing happening at the end of Hypergod Asriel. Which means it doesn't rewind back far enough to resurrect anything but the monsters,
>>720678975Cool, way to misread that data entry.The point of that entry in the true lab is to explain the point of the experiment, that being to find a way to harvest the soul of a monster before it disappears when they die. Another one of those entries even states that the monsters' dust was supposed to be returned if the experiment was successful, since harvesting the soul would still kill the monster in the process.Asriel taking the souls of all monsterkind killed them, he just used his lingering power to put them all back together afterwards.
>>720678675The children coming back to live doesn't suddenly undo the years of damage Asgore has done. There also is no reason why the kids would want to stay with Toriel.
bottom row by fartotal toriel death, total toriel defender death
>>720678769I think Undertale is a very good game, and playing Yellow highlighted Undertale's strengths, like having the main cast actively participate in their area. That's why Steamworks is the best Yellow area, too.
>>720678867a large part of the ambiguity comes from toriel herself being an unreliable narrator where asgore is concerned, and it's incredibly vague why she even hates him and, more to the point, she knows as well as asgore does that a war plan against humanity is just going to result in monster extinction because he doesn't have the conviction to begin killing humans (and quite probably no monster in the whole of the underground does), so pressing him about that and calling him a coward for not committing to it is dumb on top of the hypocrisy of her also dipping outit's less boss monsters are strong than it is they're special with enough cohesion for their soul to remain a little while after death to enable a scrapped magic system for frisk and to enable flowey snatching the soul out from under you in the first neutral ending, one specific mongolian child that's really good at dodging and has rizz can solo the entire underground but it's pretty firm elsewhere that if asgore actually could kill he'd be more than capable of picking up as many souls as he wanted after absorbing the fallen humans'
>>720679154>I feel like she would at least mention that the children she took care were revived.If she knew about that, sure, but like I said, I doubt each of the fallen children would have made a beeline straight for her if they got revived. They more likely either headed straight for the surface to try and distance themselves from the people who killed them, or went off and tried to find their own friends.
>>720679212>data entry>True LabAnon... this is from Waterfall. It has nothing to do with any experiments.
>>720676583Flowey doesn't exist for any other human but frisk. Yellow is an au
>>720679392Whatever, doesn't prove me wrong.That textbox says that it would take an incredible amount of power to harvest a monster's soul, but the game explicitly makes it clear that actually doing so would still kill the monster in question.You're still wrong, end of.
>>720676819They did everything wrong
>>720679486Can we go a single thread without a floweyfag insisting his character makes no sense in UTY despite the fact that he's perfectly fine?
>>720679486irrelevant reply.
>>720679347I genuinely doubt they wouldn't notice the empty coffins, and they wouldn't notice they going to the surface when they were standing in the literal only exit to the underground.
>>720679494It does. It explicitly states that a soul of an alive monster can be taken by an incredible power, which is literally what happens. The game only says it kills the monsters when it's NOT done in this way.
>>720679579there are absolutely issues with flowey in uty, but they made it work overall well enough. >>720679645aren't the coffins downstairs out of the way from the throne room? toriel likely rushed to barge into the throne room when she made up her mind to stop asgore, and its reasonable that she wouldnt want to go to see the coffins if she didn't just magically know they were opened
>>720679321Not about Undertale Yellow but this post still has me thinking>Alternate timeline where Toriel says "fuck it", absorbs the human souls and goes to war with humanity while shattering the barrierWould it work?She would've killed billions...
>>720673460one that's canon according to toby.
>>720679494>the entire final fight against Asriel is reaching out to all that remains of the monsters to make them fight back against him the exact same way the human souls rebel against Flowey>"When a monster dies its SOUL disappears">"Asriel killed all the monsters"Bro the foreshadowing is literally right there that Asriel was the great power who could take a living monster SOUL.
>>720679265>knows that there are human killing death squads beyond the ruins >has the ability and the authority to stop them>lets 6 children wander off on their own >"also pls don't ever come back here"
>>720679579I haven't been in these threads for half a year so you are just seething and coping at this point.
>>720675043Is it actually canon that Asgore killed them? Or did they die other ways?
>>720679486True, but fanficfags don't like this. Nothing wrong with an AU.
>>720679645>I genuinely doubt they wouldn't notice the empty coffinsWe never see any of the other characters in the coffin room, so we don't even know if they checked in the first place, and even then, it's likely only Asgore would've checked at some point after the fact.>and they wouldn't notice they going to the surface when they were standing in the literal only exit to the underground.Unless the humans woke up before they did, or waited for the place to be a bit emptier before making their moves.Underground's a big place, they could've just gone somewhere else where the main cast wouldn't have followed them.
kino is back on the menu
>>720679867Wog but not canon
>>720679773It sure is something to think about
>>720679762All of the main cast wakes up in the barrier room, which is where they actually were. Just saying, if Toby intended for ressurection someone would at least mention it.
>>720679867Tobias "Radiation" Vulpes-vulpes himself said almost as soon as the game came out that Asgore was the one who got them all
>>720680054twitter is only canon when i want it to be canon btw
>>720679773I wonder about that, sure against 6 soul flowey frisk dies repeatedly, but when he has 7 souls equivalent frisk even when brought to 0 hp "refuses". I have a feeling that determination is the power to reach "an ending" and if monsters actually waged war on the surface whos to say someone in the wide world wouldnt have the power to refuse death like frisk did even against 7 souls?
>>720679927Okay, this is now getting too speculative. It's more likely revival theory isn't a thing rather than every single thing you said happening.
>>720679754>It does. It explicitly states that a soul of an alive monster can be taken by an incredible power, which is literally what happensThe game says the soul can be *taken*, but not that the monster would survive.The reason it specifies the soul of a living monster is because the souls of non-boss monsters disappear alongside their bodies when they die, making it impossible to harvest them normally. The game saying that an incredible amount of power would be needed to harvest a living monster's soul is the explanation for how it can be done at all, not the game saying that it can be done without killing the monster you're taking the soul of.
>>720679773doubt it, toriel herself is still just as much of a pussy as her husband when the chips are down; she backs down instantly when opposed by either undyne or the underground mobs in trying to ascend the throne, and her own response to asgore's war plan was to apparently leave so abruptly he thought she was dead (it isn't specified if she tried to talk him down or anything like that, so probably not)
>>720679849You're far from the only illiterate anon to misunderstand Flowey's character, I assure you.
>>720679773Not even Flowey could wield human souls effectively. I doubt you could get them to comply with killing 8 billion humans.
>>720680141Context, dude. If the above sentence is talking about monster deaths, and then talks about taking the SOUL of an alive monster, then it implies that monster wouldn't die in that case.
>>720680032the coffins were down the stairs to the right down another set of stairs not in the barrier room, thats where the souls were kept
frisk boy or girl???kris boy or girl????clover boy or girl???
>>720680149More of a pussy, given you have to manually run into her bullets for her to kill you. She might die of a ulcer if she dared to have real killing intent.
>>720680423Frisk - GirlChara - GirlKris - BoyClover - BoyPerfectly balanced.
>>720679820>Bro the foreshadowing is literally right there that Asriel was the great power who could take a living monster SOUL.Your inability to read continues to astound me.A monster's soul vanishes with their body when they die *under normal circumstances*. The difference with what Asriel did is that he was able to use his power to harvest their souls without them vanishing, but the individuals still died in the process. Asriel literally has hundreds of monster souls surrounding him when he see him give up the souls, separate from the monster's bodies.
>>720680376Yes, but that anon implied they went to the surface without anyone noticing, which would be impossible. Revival theory needs to many concessions to realistic work.
>>720680506Basado
>>720680032>if Toby intended for ressurection someone would at least mention it.Yes, if Toby meant for something to be canon, he'd explicitly mention it and not beat around the bush with interpretation or anything dumb like that.You just blow in from stupid town?
>>720680208No I'm correct sorry retardkun.
>>720680586>which would be impossible.It's impossible to sneak around a bunch of people passed out on the floor?
>>720680687This but unironically. Stuff he leaves to interpretation he makes blatantly clear, like why Frisk fell or why Chara hated humanity.
>>720680687Charration is indeed canon
>>720680772This is giving yet another concession and just assuming they're passed out instead of being awake. Like I said, too many concessions to work. You can still headcanon it, though.
>>720680852Why did Chara hate humanity?
>>720680245That text is literally talking about the soul, it has nothing to do with the monster surviving. The emphasis on needing a living monster is because the soul itself needs to not be destroyed, which always happens when a monster is killed. The point of that text in waterfall, as well as the experiment in the true lab, is to show the idea of separating a monster's soul from it's body in order to harvest it, not to show the idea of the monster surviving.
tony fox here to remind you that this 'chara' thing is no longer canon in any way shape or form, and the undertale update tomorrow will remove it from the game entirely
>>720680556Their bodies are magic and dust held together by a living soul. If the soul is alive the body is meaningless. They're not dead until the soul is gone.Again, this is in the game.
>one chance at making a fan game based on the yellow soul>doesn't have you shot Undyne in the eyeIt's so over
>>720680586all it takes is "asriel brought them back while he still had the power of the souls thus that would mean all of the monsters are still unconscious, they left in that time". its not really much of a reach
>>720680964Exactly. It's left for interpretation explicitly from the game by having Asriel directly ask it, lol.
>>720680921>Like I said, too many concessions to work.I feel like out of all the HCs I've seen people throw around over the years, this is easily the most plausible. All the humans would've needed to do in order for the main cast to not be aware of their revival is just not go into the same room as them at the same time. It's also possible Asriel used his power to just place them somewhere else in the underground, which we know he can do given that only the main cast wakes up in the same room as Frisk at the end of pacifist, despite most of the game's entire cast being in that same area just before the fight with Asriel. The various humans could've easily just woken up with their own respective friend groups after their souls were released, miles away from the main UT cast.
>>720681018undyne never met a human before frisk
>>720681056Nah. It takes:>Asriel having the power to ressurect the dead (not implied)>Nobody noticing they being revived>Nobody comments they being revived>They're nowhere to be seen>They're never mentioned in post-game content.Meanwhile Toriel simply burying them is actually implied since she did that to Chara.
>>720681018Why are her and Alphys even in Undertale Yellow? It seems wildly out of place to have every cast member be the exact same in the prequel, and it puts Yellow way too close to Undertale chronologically.
>>720681215It's fine as a headcanon but that is it. But to be fair, Yellow itself doesn't fit the canon either. So it's fine for people to believe both.
>>720681257I know but this was a very popular theory back in the day
>>720678942Goners are copies, not zombies.
>>720680974And I thought I SAID you own me another 20k bucks, Robert.
>>720681347the devs made UTY literally 1 year before UT, huge mistakethey also justified all kids disappearing close to each other cuz they all came from an orphanage built at the base of mt ebottneedless to say most people dismiss this
>>720681347Because the authors are retards who think flowey existed before first and that 201x was when frisk fell
>>720673460>Would you rather hang out with the real characters or gay fanmade ones?What do you think?
>>720680982>Their bodies are magic and dust held together by a living soul. If the soul is alive the body is meaningless. They're not dead until the soul is gone.Again, complete misunderstanding of the game's lore. The soul isn't the only thing that matters to a person's existence in UT, it's a combination of both the body and the soul. In monsterkind's case, the body is their dust, which is why Flowey has all of Asriel's memories despite not having his soul. Also,>They're not dead until the soul is gone.That's not how monsters in-game treat it. Flowey makes that distinction when he talks about not killing Asgore if you go through the underground without killing anyone, but he still makes sure to prevent you from taking his soul. A person's soul isn't them, it's a *part* of them, in the same way that an engine is not a car. A car doesn't still exist after being put in a trash compactor just because I have the engine in my garage, I just have a component of the car.
>>720681470and just like i told you before they're up your assnow where's that chapter 5 leak, seb?
>>720678867>Fairness, no monster have true malice in their heartsNo, they do. The upper limit for monster malice is just a lot lower than the average malicious human. Toriel, Muffet, and Mettaton are examples of monsters with a lot of malice.
>>720681347It has to be close because Flowey a major character and without him UTY falls apart
>>720673460Top cause they wouldn't let a kid kill themself.
>>720681504Frisk rather
>>720681396UTY can easily fit into the canon of UT, it's just slightly awkward is all.
>>720679074Oldentale. I've ended up with this weird situation where every Disk (what I'm calling chapters) has on average 2 main antagonists. It all works in context, but man there are a lot of these guys, so I'm kinda worried they'll blend together in the player's mind.
>>720681654It can't
>>720681580UTY could work without flowey, it would just need to be set earlier (don't include any UT chars besides toriel and asgore) and have better writing (lol)
>>720681704No, it can.
>>720681754Sorry but no.
>>720681737NTA, but there's no reason to exclude Flowey from UTY at all. He's a great character, but also his inclusion doesn't actually break anything either. Most of Flowey's plans completely fall apart even when everything's in his favor, he's just not actually a very good manipulator at the end of the day.
>>720679212The goal of the true lab experiments was to make the souls of already dying monsters persist after death. Alphys wasn't going around killing people to get their souls.
>>720681654but it isn't
>>720681856It breaks everything.
>>720681789Don't worry I checked, it works.
>>720679243What other damage has he done?
>>720681737you run into the problem of why a time traveler would just accept his death as an outcome instead of resetting
vgh i just hate that yellow fanfictionanyway im going to talk about my waifu that only exists in my headcanon for 200 posts now so fuck off
>>720681909Except it doesn't, because you can't actually back up your point in any way other than "IT JUST DOESN'T OKAY!!!1!".
>>720681578I already leaked the track of Assgore's battle, ASSWHORE. How about I leak "song that might play when Rudy is the Knight"?
>>720681581>Toriel: If you leave the safety of the ruins then ASGORE is going to murder you dead, you stupid little shit>Also Toriel: Well okay fine I'll let you go even though I still think ASGORE is going to get you like he did the last six kids
>>720681304>Asriel having the power to ressurect the dead (not implied)he has the power of 7 souls, the power that has been referred to as "becoming a god". this is not an unreasonable concession>Nobody noticing they being revived>Nobody comments they being revived>They're nowhere to be seenall handled at once by the revival happening while asriel still held the souls, so it would by default mean while the monsters were unconscious. these are a "gimme".>They're never mentioned in post-game content.we are given very little info on post game anything other than that "everyones happy yay, also toriels an alcoholic!"its really a pretty reasonable take on things
>>720682004where is the link then? go ahead, post it
>>720681654Even the Yellow devs disagree with you, bro.
>>720681959why did the other kids die if they could reset?the truth is even frisk only survive due to the PLAYER's determination, the kids all had lower determination and just gave up, like the hollows in dark souls
>>720681856Flowey doesn't have to be a good manipulator when he can just reset any outcome that he doesn't like. This inherently makes him OP.
>>720681959Undertale actually deals with this quite nicely by having the substance that gives people this power be called "determination". You can go back and try again for as long as you have enough of it, but as you keep going your determination gets worn down just a little bit more each time you reset, until eventually you're ready to throw in the towel.If you think you've seen everything and still can't find a way out, sometimes the best choice is to go out on your own terms.
>>720681976>Kanakofags out of nowhere.
>>720682074Inside Temmie's pussy.
>>720682147>when he can just reset any outcome that he doesn't like.Yeah, except having unlimited tries to do something doesn't actually guarantee success, it just means you can keep butting your head against a wall for as long as you like.Even if Flowey has the ability to explore as many different outcomes as he likes, if none of those outcomes actually lead him to where he wants to be, he's shit outta luck. That's why he can't win in UTY, the starting conditions simply aren't arranged in such a way for him to get what he wants, and after enough attempts, he's willing to try and wait things out and see if he can get what he wants later.
>>720682138>PlayerLegends of Localization headcanon. The determination is from Frisk only. She is the one filled with determination.
Cool discussion but we all know what carries Yellow threads.The bird
>>720682219that's still a gay fanfiction characterunlike my headcanon genoslide waifu who should take up 99% of every thread
>>720682378Forgot to take the name. Oops.
>>720682385she's what ruined yellow threads in the first place though
>>720682378Flowey literally makes an explicit distinction between Frisk and the player, play the game before talking about it.
Yellows endings bother me. Like either fate can't be changed or it can, pick a lane. You should especially not make the one ending where fate is change the genocide route. "The only way to break fate is through blood" as a theme could be interesting, just not in an undertale fan game cause it comes off like you missed the entire point.
>>720673460As much as I like Supermarket, Cerobert and Starsky, I have a mission to marry off Alphys to Asgore and then marry Undyne myself.
not once in these last 10 years has a chara fan ever made a single good post
>>720682403I like Chara (even though I prefer Frisk) and I love fanfiction. Heck, Toby is pro-fanfiction. Fanfiction caries this series. Nothing wrong with yellow at all.
>>720682592>marry off Alphys to AsgoreThere is no way that would end well for anyone.Literally, anyone, the collateral damage would be catastrophic.
>>720682385you have no power here birdbrain
Oh shit, is that what this is? I've heard tell of the charafagging from people in the /vrpg/, but I've never actually run into it until now.
>>720680556You're treating that as though its a foregone conclusion but nothing in the game says that. Its just as possible that the monsters didn't die when Asriel took their souls. After all the soul of a monsters disappears when they die, so maybe he has to use his immense power to keep them alive while taking their soul, and then keep them alive so the souls don't disappear.Sure it could be what you say, but it could also be that.
>>720673460Martlet, easy. Or Starlo,
>>720682568He's talking to Chara here, but I didn't even say the player wasn't canon.
>>720682656Shut up, they're perfect for each other. The only better option for Asgore is Roba herself.
>>720679935Someone hide Sadie
>>720682728I think it's just one guy dumping Chara images and one guy that absolutely hates Chara. Just discuss Yellow and ignore it.
>>720682791>He's talking to Chara hereWow, way to completely miss the point of the entire back half of the pacifist run pal.
>>720682691she has the power of being lovely
>>720682590This. Why make the route where you obliterate everyone in your path the one were you have the power to overcome fate.
