What is /v/ looking forward to most in Maplestory Classic?For me it's the new areas designed with oldschool in mind.
considering they're adding new areas it's safe to assume we will get classic exclusive classeswhat kind of classes you guys want? obviously not including the ones that are in current maple
>>725524997Resistance classes.
>>725524889Making frensJoining a guild with frensGrinding with frensMaybe one of my new frens will be a qt azn gf
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>>725525068The only one I can see fitting into the Classic aesthetic is Battle Mage. Wild Hunter, Mechanic, and Demon Slayer are too modern in their foundations. Battle Mage is gimmicky but it's extremely simple as a concept and with a little tweaking can fit right at home with the original classes.
what went so wrong?????!??????
I just want to throw shuriken and kunai again
>>725525147Evan and Aran were in pre-BB so being gimmicky isn't a reason.Resistance were at least classes (except Demon Slayer) so I don't see why they couldn't be adapted to better fit the gameplay of old Maplestory.I also wouldn't mind 5th job at some point, but instead of that weird complicated matrix nonsense, it could just be an extra tab in the skill menu. Something else to work towards in late game instead of the old cycle.
>>725525348Evan and Aran are characters, not classes. I don't want that shit in my classic.
what went so right??????
Should Pirate PQ be in Classic?
>>725525348>Evan and Aran were in pre-BBThey also weren't mounted fighters like Wild Hunter and Mechanic. The only thing comparable is Corsair's Battleship, and even that was heavily restrictive.
>>725525476Wonder how many years it will take so this kind of videos don't destroy all the small details after a few second, like her mole blending with the eye, or the stars on her eyes, what did you used for that?
>>725525749it's wan2.2, and stuff like that can be corrected if you provision details in the text proompt
>>725525728I don't like it when a PQ comes out that completely eclipses another one. I hated CPQ's existence because now there was zero reason to do LPQ (unless you wanted the glasses). Pirate PQ eats up way too much real estate with its massive 55-100, and it was so good that anything within that level range was a waste of time by comparison. Most notable were OPQ (unless you glitched it) and R&JPQ.It's not a bad PQ, but I think it could use some work.
>>725525476>>725525974i don't get grok lewdstheir animation is too stiffy and unnatural (for now)why not just use sd
>>725525728All PQs should be in classic.Even nuMaple PQs should be in classic. They all got abandoned in nuMaple anyway so might as well port them over.
>>725525974I want to see her fart.
>>725526048You say this like the level requirements can't be easily adjusted.In 2012, R&J PQ became the meta for like 50 levels.Also, most ppl did the broken LMPQ from 51-70 back in the day, but that shit was the most boring PQ by far.
>>725526147unfortunately she had a script about farting but it got removed with the remaster
>>725526069That isn't "grok".>why not just use sdBecause wan is far superior for local video gen.
>>725526264How good of a graphics card do you need for that wan junk? Bleeding edge SLI arrays?
>>725526193>In 2012, R&J PQ became the meta for like 50 levels.I am all too aware of this. I played during that time and experienced this myself.>Also, most ppl did the broken LMPQ from 51-70 back in the dayI knew of this too, but I never did it because as you said it's fucking boring.And yes, I'm aware PQs can be tweaked in terms of EXP and level requirements. I was just pointing out how prominent it was back in the day and I hope this mistake isn't repeated. If EXP is the only reward, there will always be a top dog. But if there's alternate rewards such as a chance at rare or exclusive items (i.e. specific scrolls from KPQ or Broken Glasses from LPQ), then the various PQs will always retain their audiences.
>>725526407i use an rtx 5070 ti.generation time varies depending on resolution and total frames. something like this >>725525974 takes about 150 seconds.
>>725526493>150 sec on a 5070ti for a short and tiny (pic rel) wembdamn, will just stick to my noobai and ilxl
>>725524889Playing with anons and enjoying the old slower paced gameplay and grind I very much love. That and getting to play dress-up.
>>725526627my mistake, more like 70-80 seconds at that resolution.this >>725525476 is closer to 150 seconds for 5 seconds
>>725526691>That and getting to play dress-up.I trust you will be dressing up a character based on your real gender?
>>725526493>rtx 5070 tiDamn. Way better than I got. Guess I'll keep watching Civitai for what everybody else makes.
>>725526691we're going home bros.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NoF8PHQJqQ
mushroom game and ai, can't name a better duo
>>725526830you probably weren't using the lightx2v lora, that is extremely important for cutting down times.i recommend using the workflow that's attached to the >>>/g/ldg OP
>>725526932I'll at least read up on it, whether or not my gpu can handle it. Thanks.
I hope they make cpq2 better cause holy shit it sucked
>>725527075the simple way to fix cpq is to implement matchmaking so cucks can't just trade wins and you're forced to compete.i remember early numaple had a different kind of cpq that activated via bubble over character head, and created huge teams for some ludi map followed by one big KS war. shit was cash
>>725526763Nah in mmos the female cosmetics always have been way too good in comparison, atleast imo. I do tell everyone who would ask that I'm an old man as I have no intention nor desire to larp. I just like the cute cosmetics in old maple and spend hundreds on em.>>725526859I'm very excited and hope official release comes as early as possible. This game ticks every box for what I enjoy more or less.It also has some very good music that always makes me feel nostalgic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uCaEDM-Kf8
new video from the nexon youtube channel:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-HGsrHsRU
>>725524889Should PQs be revamped? Like changed from how they were in the old days?Do we need the same combination puzzles for KPQ? Is it time to engineer some more interesting team-based puzzles?
will they bring it backI miss it so much
>>725527454It would be nice to see PQs with new mechanics but I'll be happy if they just make the rewards worthwhile and balance out the exp rates.
>>725524889Just go to the general on /vg/ man. This doesn't need to be a thread every single day.
>>725528016yes it does
>>725527217KS wars were always fun to see. Making it into an actual encouraged feature like a PQ would be amazing.
>>725527718https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzzDrEuFpnE
on a scale of 1-10, how important is it that the developers make the game more lewd?
Should Cygnus knights be in classic?
>>725528426I'll only accept it if it's tasteful lewd in line with the old maple artstyle. I don't want anything that looks like ms2 or numaple.
>>725528460Hell no. Pirates is the end.
>>725528460I forgot if they were preBB or not. I know Resistance isn't.
>>725529057Cygnus Knights, Aran, Evan, and Dual Blade were all released before Big Bang.However, Cygnus Knights' inclusion soured the watering hole by rigging Maplestory with a narrative that wasn't previous there (nor was it needed) along with being the first signs of true content bloat as they were just Explorers with some additional bells and whistles (and mandatory quests). Aran and Evan only added more fuel to the fire in the narrative department. Dual Blade is the only somewhat decent addition since it (originally) didn't rely on the Black Mage plot, but they get a bad reputation with classic fans due to them being released alongside Potentials which utterly destroyed any semblance of game balance as a whole.
when us ut iout?
>>725529191I could have sworn the black mage plot line was there before any of them was added but it was never really expanded on much.
>>725524889>Maplestory Classic>New contentI thought the point was it was Classic Maplestory...
>>725529251See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCaGr7bEA8
>>725529632can you just fucking tell me a date
>>725529524If it did, it wasn't shoved in your face like it was post-Cygnus. You do quests at your own pace, if any at all. That was part of the draw. Even the fucking website back then said it's YOUR story. Adding a narrative that every single class/character builds towards completely goes against that.>>725529574It's Classic+. It's essentially a faithful remake with new content. If it was just a dolled up old version it'd be no better than little jimmy's very own v83 Private Server.
>>725524889The european/bonger who keeps making this threads truly is Nexon's strongest soldier. That being said you make these before I go to bed, stop that. Anyway for me I'm most looking forward to playing on day one right on launch and seeing Lith Harbor full of noobs again. There's a lot I'm excited about but the first day of a "classic" MMO can only be experienced once.
>>725529574You thought wrong.If you want a pure vanilla experience, you already have plenty of options. Just go and play Legends of something.Expanding the world is important because part of the true classic experience was rolling content updates and not just the same shit on an endless loop.The important thing to keep the same is the oldschool design philosophy. There is nothing wrong with new content so long as it feels old.
>>725529667>It's Classic+Oh, I'm not interested anymore then. Thanks for the heads up.
>>725529728Good riddance.
>>725529758My thoughts exactly. Classic with new content is just the current game.
>>725529728You will not be missed.
>>725529659we don't have one sadly, the only thing we know is there's gonna be a closed online test early next year, so a couple months out at least and no sign ups yet
>>725529803I am very happy the developers aren't listening to idiots like you :)
>>725529812ughhh
>>725529803One less faggot in my maps then. Please fuck off now.
>>725529817>>725529804>>725529856Why are you all so upset? :)
>>725529574Old maple was fucking dogshit you just don't remember the bad parts because of nostalgia and minmaxing wasn't widespread then.
>>725524889Not even coming out for at minimum 5 months.
>>725529890upset over what?again, i'm glad the developers are not listening to tards like you and retreading the same ground as private servers
>>725529925I liked it. I started to dislike the game after they added pirates. Can't remember why.
>>725530039There are private servers for Maplestory?
>>725529524Black mage existed, in the same sense that an evil spirit deep in the el nath mines existed before zakum released. The extra classes made it clear that black mage was going to be a 'thing' and not an area boss.
Wait, are people really disappointed it's not going to be a 1/1 recreation of old Maplestory?I played Royals with /v/ in 2015 and it was a fun nostalgia trip, but holy shit did the game get boring after level 120. I remember everyone started to quit around this point, and it was hardly a surprise because there was nothing to do.You can't live off nostalgic novelty forever, and the new dev team get this.
>>725529667>AddingI get that but I feel it's more that it was expanded on and given more focus and not just pulled out of no where. I recall Temple of Time being the way it is because of the black mage. You are right about the character classes like Aran and Evan being way more personal story focused than the Explorer classes and the Cygnus Knights were as well.
>>725530217>Wait, are people really disappointed it's not going to be a 1/1 recreation of old Maplestory?Yes. I thought that's what "Classic" implied. If I wanted new content from them, I'd play current Maple.
>>725530206A lot of the quests that most people didn't do mentioned him often. He was always the big bad but it was more like one we wouldn't personally engage with.
>>725530332then go and play MapleLegends with their strict adherence to oldschool gameplay, including HP washing and nothing to do past level 120.We've all been there and done that shit, which is why we recognize the importance of freshening up the experience.
>>725530312>I recall Temple of Time being the way it is because of the black mage.Temple of Time was released after Cygnus Knights.
>>725530217There are some who would want an exact 1:1 recreation or atleast with the tiniest changes. However I'd guess majority would rather have more extensive changes and it's already going to be different and how much are they going to change going forward aswell is left to see. Hopefully they don't drop the ball too hard with this and polling system similar to OSRS would have it's positives and negatives, but not sure if they are going that route.The game is already looking like a custom version of classic with the idea revolving around the core gameplay style of old maple, but revamped to get more interest in it.There is nothing wrong if someone is upset or dissapointed it isn't a 1:1 copy, but that is how it is and they aren't going that route.>>725530332Classic isn't the best term since it gives some people the idea it is indeed a 1:1 copy. In the last info panel they placed their version in the middle between old and modern. Also saying it's more suitable to call it a "remake", but still I agree just calling it "classic" can be misleading.
Speaking of the Black Mage and story based stuff, should they introduce the Crusade/Arkarium questline to Classic?
>>725530413Pink Bean's fight takes place there though and I thought he was out before them.
>>725530408Never heard of it before. Thanks.
>>725530459I don't think so
>>725530481Cygnus Knights were added in mid-2009. Temple of Time was added a few months later.
>>725530440I'm still not seeing why these 1:1 people don't just play a private server that has gameplay parity with an older version. Like don't wait for Classic, you have what you want available right now.As someone who has played all kinds of private servers over the past 10 years, I can clearly see old maplestory in it's vanilla state simply isn't a worthwhile way to spend my time in the year 2025. It's a no-brainer that they need to adapt to the times.
>>725530603What's the number 1 issue that classic has that you think modern maple fixes?
>>725530661Why are autistic ppl like you always stuck in this binary mindset? Just because I'm saying vanilla old maplestory isn't good enough doesn't mean I'm advocating for modern maplestory.
>>725530728>Dodges the questionWhat are you afraid of? I'm just asking you to explain what you meant.
>>725530603It is just a bit hard due to the lack of information and vague statements from the team. There are plenty of people who don't follow what announcements have been made and where the information comes from or even feel like searching for that. I think a lot of people would also prefer to play on the official server, but it is indeed true that you can play the true classic experience right now with servers that have been up for quite a while atleast. I think the issue is just misleading name of "classic" as I doubt they could really come up with a better name and I can understand why some people are left dissapointed when they hear it isn't classic as in 1:1.I've played quite a lot of private servers aswell and I do agree that the original classic without changes is simply not going to make it on the current day and markets. Majority of people in every single game are casuals to the point they would hit a hardwall at like level 43 and that's it. With the lack of content and the same balance issues from the original version I really doubt the game would succeed at all.
>>725530603Every game will have those vocal, autistic purists who need everything exactly like how their childhood memories were, and these people are genuinely offended that Nexon has the gall to update something they grew up playing.After the first couple years, the game started to struggle heavily with content bloat and balancing issues. 90% of the maps were outdated and worthless because a handful of maps dominated the scene. The game started to become heavily minmaxed and it was stupidly easy to do. HP Washing was a disgusting practice no matter how you approach it. The Leeching meta was rampant. Magicians dominated everything that wasn't a boss run, and in boss runs if you weren't a Dark Knight, Bishop, or Night Lord, you were essentially worthless. Archers and Pirates as a whole were ass to play for a number of reasons. Paladin was a fucking joke. The INT stat was hilariously busted. I could go on. Changes NEEDED to be made to make the game more enjoyable overall (which is what Big Bang set out to do, and while it succeeded it brought along its own problems), and the classic purists don't like that.
>>725530802your question was disingenuous from the beginning and demonstrates you are both unintelligent and autistic.I couldn't give two craps about modern maplestory.I'm playing Classic because it will be a fresh take on the old Maplestory experience.i know it's difficult for your binary autistic mind to grasp, but adding a new area doesn't mean it's literally modern maplestory.
>>725530332i get the instinct but this really is a "you don't know what you want" situation. classic era wow is stagnant, people got their hit of nostalgia and now it's pretty much dead. contrast with osrs which embraced making new content in the spirit of 2007 era runescape (most importantly, polling users on what they want to see) and it's one of the most popular mmos on the market
>>725530938>your question was disingenuousNo it wasn't, retard. You're just pretending it was because you don't want to answer me.You said>It's a no-brainer that they need to adapt to the times.I'm asking you what "modern adaptations" they need to make to improve classic in a modern way, in your opinion.Why does this scare you so much? Why even use a forum if you're too scared to reply to people.
>>725531037No, I know exactly what I want.Thanks for checking tho.
This is the same autistic retard from yesterday's thread: >>725531043just ignore it, this sad loser will spend his entire day engaging in pointless back and forth.
>>725530531Ah, that's pretty close together. I know Pink Bean was around long before being a boss.
>>725531183I wasn't online yesterday.If you think you can prove otherwise, please go ahead, otherwise this is pure copium you are huffing.
>>725531083if you did, then you would have already jumped on one of the four private servers that are just normal maplestory instead of clicking every one of these threads to cry about this game.
>>725531239Everything has already been explained to you multiple times by multiple anons. Your high-functioning autism inhibits you from understanding anything no matter how clearly it's explained.You can keep shitting up the thread all you like, but at the end of the day we're very happy a boring autistic retard like you isn't playing.
>>725531291I learned about the private server about 20 minutes ago.Gonna try it on the weekend.>>725530495
>>725531316You still haven't answered my one and only question.>I'm asking you what "modern adaptations" they need to make to improve classic in a modern way, in your opinion.Why are you afraid of telling me what your opinion is? Autists are so weird.
Does this game have a pet class for classic?
>>725531336if you really wanted to play maplestory one to one exactly as it was circa, say, 2007, you would have already known about them. anyway enjoy them for the short nostalgia hit, this dumbass game is so far out it won't even be released by the time you get bored of playing on a private server
>>725531464>if you really wanted to play maplestory one to one exactly as it was circa, say, 2007, you would have already known about themHuh? Why would I?I saw this thread about "classic" maplestory, realised it's not what I wanted, and now I'm playing what I wanted on the weekend.Why does this seem to hurt your feelings?
/v/ Royals reporting in
>>725531383nta and one anon already mentioned few core issues. I think the main issue is the brutally slow leveling will filter out the majority of players as the main audience from what I would guess, is 25+ adults with limited free time. It is a hard sell to get these people to continue playing if they can afford to play like 30min-2h every day if even that and how fast the original leveling cliff hits where a single level which is actually visible progress as just seeing experience bar go up by 5% isn't exactly "visible progress" for most people.This is of course just guess work, but I do believe the classic experience simply wouldn't hold and player retention wouldn't stay nor introducing new players as it's hard to recommend a game where "yeah you grind 1 level for like three days and if you die that's like 4h of progress gone".Modern games have already adapted years ago to dailies/weeklies and just in general targetting the casual majority to hit visible progress or just in general the feeling they achieved something in the game. The feeling of getting your dailies done, progress for weeklies, battle pass sort of things. Or just quick sessions through matchmaking as any sort of wait time already decreases the limited time most of the audience would have.Classic has some major issues on top of HP washing being just plain stupid, even if not necessarily mandatory. Class balance was miserably bad and it was very clearly shown from what classes were played or even wanted for a party. Also bringing the issue that we aren't kids who are oblivious to the game mechanics nor knowledge anymore. Everything about the classic has been beaten to the point we know the best spots, classes, how bossing is done, best gear, best skills, classes, leeching, farming spots. Everything. I do not believe all of these things combined would make the game stay afloat and it would experience what happened to OSRS.
>>725531536i'm not offended mate, it's just a bit daft to be so stubborn for an exact recreation of old MS to the point where you dismiss out of hand the pros and cons of it, yet you don't actually have any clue at all that there already exists several options for exactly the thing you seem to be dead set on being the optimal classic experience. suppose i overlooked the small contingency of people who insist on the game being stagnant on release and dying after a year yet don't actually have any idea there's already half a dozen private servers that came and went through that exact cycle. maybe you'll come around after getting bored of MR but it doesn't bother me much either way
>>725531782>dailies/weekliesYou think that makes games better?Really?
>>725531816What do you think I'm being stubborn about?
I have 0 hope for this game. Nexon will fuck that up 100%.
>>725531817No? I said that to make a comparison why the classic experience wouldn't really do well on the modern market of gaming. I already implied that these systems are targetted for the majority of casual audience due to the fast "reward" system that triggers achieving something from a small time investment. Having most games do this sort of thing showcases that it keeps player retention and makes money which is what matters at the end of the day. I am trying to point out how people with limited time tend to play and experience games, especially online and live service ones.I do not think dailies/weeklies/battle passes/fomo/p2w and so on makes for a "better" experience. Just because I can grind 12h every day and ignore the very slow leveling, grinding and farming doesn't mean this is the way classic should be and how it would succeed and stay relevant. I am in the extreme minority and no matter how much I hate the forementioned things it doesn't matter. I am not the target audience nor can you balance or change anything from my pov. Ideally these things don't exist and you earn everything from the game and it's balanced and fun for most people, that is simply ideal talk and will not happen.
>>725531858the game being a 1 to 1 recreation, you said it's what you thought classic should be and you don't want new stuff or else you'd just play modern MS. i tried to explain, well, it's a nice idea in theory but in practice every MMO that actually just goes straight 1 to 1 eventually dies because people get bored of playing a small chunk of quests and bosses from a mid-00s MMO over and over for hours on end. you appeared to disagree pretty firmly with that argument which is a level of puritism that's usually reserved for people who already know about or play on private servers (hence my assumption)
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>>725531183Kek he shits up almost every classic thread posting the same garbage images and gifs. Looks like he switched it up after getting thrown onto too many md5 filter lists
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>>725532013I think you type the message before the @ padding anon...
>>725532064sorry... last time i played was 19 years ago... :^(
>>725531994It's not actually Nexon developing it. It's Nexon America.This was Inkwell's idea and something he's been pushing for years, and the Korean branch finally allowed it. This is also the reason Classic World is currently GMS-only, and the Koreans aren't allowed to play.
>>725532047Is this a modern maple character? Either way, hot.
>>725532110modern as in Maplestory 2.Maplestory 2 had some lewd official art.
>>725524889Literally going to play to just listen to the music again lol.
>>725532105Based Inkwell but it goes to show gooks have a massive say in it and they may not let them fix the gross pay2win shit like HP washing.
>>725532008>you said it's what you thought classic should beNo, i said it's what I thought it was. And when I found out it wasn't what I wanted, I moved on.How exactly is that an example of me "being stubborn"?
>>725532006Well I wasn't asking about that, so I'll stop this discussion now so you don't waste anymore time.Thanks anyway.
