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>"Oh wow! Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. What a mess. You’re alone, on a planet, with no hope of survival. But, you’re also not sitting next to Phil anymore in that cubicle… So… Win?"
This is an actual line from the game lmao
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Explain why it's bad for Nintendo to follow in Sony's footsteps to try and make more narrative focused games.

People LOVED Nu-God of War and it was literally just this shit on repeat.
Why is it bad when Nintendo does it?
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>>725915382
>people
snoyggers aren't people
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literally picrel
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>>725915305
I hate millennials so much
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As a veteran metroid fan I can tell the franchise is doomed. The video game industry will no longer exist in 5 years.
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I have anti-nintendo fatigue.
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>>725915305
18 fucking years for this.
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Sex with balls
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I've seen it described as
>millennial writing
>MCU quippy writing
>commiefornian writing

But let's face it, the reality is that it's actually American writing. And no it's not blind America-bashing.
I'm not saying all American writing is like this of course, but if you actually think about it, it way predates the MCU or any other specific trend, and literally no other culture does this. Even the closest ones (the Anglosphere) do not have that exact propensity for this specific brand of hyper-ironic, self-satisfied humour, and all-devouring hyper-self-awareness.
It's like the exasperated final form of British wittiness, without the elegance of the unsaid or the restraint of the implied.
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>>725917093
Forspoken was a Japanese game.
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>>725917093
it's all of the above, early 2010's upper class "white" urban american college graduate millenial writing influenced heavily by identity politics, social media and american pop culture
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>>725917148
It's clearly written by American staff at least on that front, no way in hell an actual Japanese person would think, much less write like that. Japanese writing can certainly fall into their own pitfalls, but this just isn't it.
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>>725915305
I predict that he's going to become a fan favorite. He's funny to me.
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>>725917148
>Writers. Allison Rymer; Todd Stashwick · Amy Hennig · Gary Whitta
Though Amy Hennig said she didn't write any of the script, just some of the lore concepts.
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>>725915305
how's the writing in the japanese script?
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>>725917760
There are virtually no Metroid fans in Japan, so I guess the localization will be minimum effort, aka direct translation and sub only.
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>>725915305
From what we've seen only Miles talks like that, every other soldier in the trailer was serious so it's a conscious decision for the character and not just the general writing style.
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>>725915476
Randy is Gen X.
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>>725917868
i just looked up the numbers, super metroid sold more in japan than america but everything after that NA sales are 10 times that of JP which is weird
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%88%E3%83%AD%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
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>>725918131
Yeah, Japan only likes cute things. A lot of big Japanese IPs like Resident Evil and Dark Souls make 90% of their sales abroad.
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>>725918131
>japan has better taste in metroid games than the west
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>>725918232
i looked up the numbers for biohazard/resident evil and the early titles has around 1/3rd~half their sales from japan
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%90%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AA%E3%83%8F%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA
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>>725917868
>>725918131
They only really started ignoring Metroid once western developers got their hands on it. Also Nintendo itself was convinced the series is unpopular in Japan because it doesn't look cute, they were going to go with a chibi artstyle for Zero Mission until Nintendo of America told them it would've killed sales in the west instead, and Other M was also Japan-pandering with the focus on suitless Samus, little birdy and the general writing.
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I don't understand. I will never understand. What kind of dogshit focus group told them to put this shit in the game? I want names. Addresses.
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>>725918625
makes sense, if you l look at the numbers metroid numbers nosedived when prime came out, so did resident even around red4 or re5. guess they didn't like shooters
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>>725918728
Americans, because Retro Studios is an American Company. And Tanabe was particularly spiteful about how many times he'd been assfucked over the course of Prime 4's development, so he had no qualms letting Americans rape the franchise, because they'd already done so on multiple occasions anyway.
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Why would a grunt have a cubicle?
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>>725915305
>Metroid Prime 4 adds a ntr ugly guy who fucks and breeds Samus
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>>725918867
Americans made Prime and Prime 2
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>>725919016
nice self insert, anon, but no
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>>725919026
Yeah, Americans in the early 2000's.
Prime 4 is being made by Americans in the 2020's. Very big difference.
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>>725918980
Miles is an engineer, not a frontline fighter.
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>>725915305
Jesus. WTF is wrong with us millennials!?
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>>725919026
that's explain why it's a shit metroid
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>>725918980
>Why would a grunt have a cubicle?
if you are not deployed it is either that or you are a glorified janitor.
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>>725919061
never understood why engineers and scientists are protrayed as effeminate in american media
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>>725917093
Well my dude, that's because it's Canadian writing, CW tier slop if you will. You ever seen a CW show past season 2? It's exactly the same as the lamest vidya writing for the last 10 years. Ah but you see, that's just the dramatic writing, the joke writing is thanks to Judd Apatow, see Judd was the only game in town for a while allowed to write comedy movies. He brought about the era of Seth Rogan, Rogan's style of comedy isn't to tell a joke, it's to question what's happening around the character to break the suspension of disbelief and explain the joke as the joke is happening.

So take all that, smush it together, and what do you get? You get the year 2011, go ahead, look up popular movies and TV shows from 2011, it's everything you hate.

Video games in 2011 though? Top tier games, Portal 2, Skyrim, Dark Souls, Gears 3, etc.

Why does any of this matter? When ass tier writers get jobs writing they emulate shit they enjoyed when they were kids. Who was a teenager in 2011? 30 year olds, they were 16 in 2011, this is what formed their taste in media. Absolute dogshit tier garbage.

So now, you have a bunch of 30 year olds out emulating slop from the slop era that was originally written by slop Canadians and they can't produce a single fucking thing of note American or otherwise.
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>>725919319
anyone not in the field is considered a pansy, dudes on the line aren't considered engineers, scientists are reclusive weirdos.
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>>725915305
They probably hired than tranny lover writer specifically to write this character making them purposefully annoying.
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>>725919319
It's this archetype of the spergy savant. The fact they're good with technology means they're bad at everything else.
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>>725919156
Millenials were mind raped by 9/11 and 4chan and they decided to crawl back into the womb of Nintendo and Pokemon and cartoons to cope.
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>>725919319
because most are, nerdism is a byproduct of autism
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I'm gonna play metroid prime 4 and enjoy it, i'm interested in the game, not in cutscenes i can skip. and all that maze glory is still there along with puzzles and shooting.
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>>725920027
We already know you have to escort Mackenzie around and if he dies you get a game over
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>>725919963
1994
1999
9/11
2007
2008
2012
2020
2025

8+ supposed once in a generation cultural and financial dumpster fires, multiple even happened in the same year.
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>>725915476
Is that famous Millennial Randy Picthford?
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>>725919319
Many nerd stereotypes are a subclass of Jewish stereotypes
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>>725919156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA5V_thcK3c
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>>725915382
Because sony's games are shit and only faggots like them.
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GET FUCKED FAGGOTS
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>>725918625
Now it kind of makes sense why there's such a dissonance with it's direction. They see it as their western series and so continually made it more like some badass action comic, pre remake-shovelware nintendo probably would've had the sense to leave it at that but the suits in charge looked at the synopsis file for metroid and saw "western" and figured they needed to add western goyslop tropes for those. Also makes it clear why it was the only nintendo franchise pre 2010's to feature token blacks.
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>>725915305
We need to find who at Retro is called Phil and why sitting next to him in a cubicle was so bad that somebody needed to use Metroid Prime 4 as his own personal therapy session.
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>>725915305
Sadly, I think this will be the Veilguard of the Metroid games, it even has the same purple color everywhere. And the same ironic writing, and tons of it.
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Based on the logo alone, I can tell the original draft was the better game.
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>>725922058
source?
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>>725917093
Why can't Americans write without quips and relatable office humour
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>>725922350
Chud reason? Oversocialized trash whose every moment is a waking advertisement, proudly trying to acknowledge such to signal how aware they are to their peers tacitly as a impotent resistance to make them cope with eating shit and because it's the only comradarie they can have being a multicultural hellholle.

Real reason? America has the most pozzed entertainment sector in history and is extremely corportaely nepotistic, there's essentially no actual artistry in the makeup of american writers 90% of the time cause the bulk of them are there cause they passed "art school" and the onse that could be considered such get filtered out cause they don't want to deliver the slop. More subtley there's also the fact that North Americas early access to the internet made it so that was where creative types congregated, as opposed to industries that then more easily became like the above in their absence. The bulk of creative interest resulting from the continent rests in flash archives and lost videos.
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>>725915305
the Metroid reddit is literally crashing out over this lmao
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>Reddit loves it
>Twitter adores it
>Youtube is going straight BONKERS over it
But of course, the 4chin incel army hates it.
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>>725924272
Who are you quoting?
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>>725924272
>>Reddit loves it
lol no
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1owxump/metroid_prime_4_beyond_handson_and_impressions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1owxbpb/metroid_prime_4_beyond_the_final_preview/
almost 1000 posts of saying "wtf is this shit" and "who is this for"
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>>725917093
I can't believe I agree with a frogposter but I was thinking this exact thing yesterday.
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>>725915305
The cutscenes in Prime 3 were enough to turn me off that game. This is pretty worrying if they doubled down on that angle.
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>>725915476
Those are gen X failures writting for their failure of a generation the zoomtards
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>>725915305
I'm not ususally one to partake in the outrage theater, and I'm for sure waiting for actual reviews and will most likely see for myself either way, but I get people's reaction on this one. These exact nonsensical quipping NPCs, constantly yapping at you, pointing out to obvious as well as literally spoiling puzzle solutions and such, has to be the absolute worst trend in contemporary gaming for me. It made GoW:Ragnarök completely unplayable for me. It's so stress inducing because it denies me to play the game at my own pace. Just leave me the fuck alone.

Metroid used to be the complete antithesis to this type of focus grouped boardroom design, and now it has that shit? It feels like a sacred line has been crossed.

It also doesn't really matter for how long these characters will stick around, it completely shifts the tone, mystery and grace of the game, even if they're just around for relatively short bits.

To see even just a drop of this Marvel-fication in a beloved series, of which we've been waiting for a new iteration for almost 20 years is fucking heartbreaking. Like, I can only imagine this must've been an idea of some higher up at Retro who insisted on it - there must have been pushback from the people who designed what otherwise seems to be a magnificent experience true to the series spirit. At least I fucking hope so.

I don't think I've ever been this bummed about any bit of gaming news in like almost 30 years of following games media lol.
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>>725915305
>This is an actual line from the game lmao
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>>725924395
Great, now 4chud contrarians will start liking it because reddit hates it
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American Millennials need to be banned from writing for any media. Especially Californians. Everyone fucking hates the way they write.



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