Deltarune fans, this is your mindset.
What exactly am I looking at
>>726280956What's Marine doing there?Her stuff with Toby was cool (pic related)
>>726280956Yep! You have a problem with any of this, pussy?
>>726280956That's right. He won.
>>726280956Okay? Do you any idea what website you're on right now
deltatroon fans are satanists
>>726280956Dog’s still got that Radiation in him.
>>726280956No, my mindset is>Spamton, Jevil, Gerson and Ramb are cool, I wanna see more guys like thatAnd that's it.
>>726280956>calling out the fetish art instead of the floraverse shit
>>726280956while i dont think toby is "libtarded", i hate when retards in this sphere are like BRO TONY IS SO BAZED AND DEFINITLY PLAYED SOME SHITTY VN NOBODY CARES ABOUT BECAUSE HES SO VASED AND THATS WHAT DELTARUNE IS SECRETLY BASED ON no. toby has played chrono trigger and mega man x. fuck off and kill yourself
>>726281027>What's Marine doing there?shota queen.
>>726280956> (against antis)What the fuck are you talking about
>>726280956if that's the best you can find then there really is no dirt on himespecially during the era where pedobear was a normie meme and people could still speak their minds without cynical terminally online vermin seeing it as an opportunity to make drama videos about you and cash in views
>>726280956>still friends with literally who [taboo fetish]I still post on /v/, why do I give a shit what you jack off to
They call him Teflon Tony
>>726282216Because if you scrape him with a fork you'll get sick?
>against antisThis is the gayest thing I've ever heard
Tobyfox: I hate niggers
>>726280956>You should hate Toby Fox because he doesn't antagonistically burn bridges with these people I don't like.Nah, now I'm gonna slumber while groping my Asriel body pillow.
>>726280956Yeah.Toby's not a retard. He doesn't judge people by their kinks.
>>726280956i can't read that gamefaqs(?) screenshot in the upper right corner, what does it say
>the baby is youI didn't need to remember that.
>>726282576Not body checking people for their kinks is why the asylum patients in places like Tumblr are now being listened to seriously by industry and policy makers
>>726281001Mental illness.Seems like some kind of cancelling attempt.
>>726281328anon everybody is a satanist now
>>726280956All I'm seeing are based things here
That's not our mindsetWe're all about a teenage girl diddling a little boyWe're about the mental degradation of a girl in an abusive homeWe're about removing all agency from a boy in order to fulfill our desiresWe're all about edgykino
>>726282749I have no idea what you're saying.
I like swap AUs. What’s my mindset like?
>>726280956who the fuck is antis
>>726285410antis nuts
Based. Never turn your back on your friends. It will burn your bridges and make you a bitch (like OP)
>>726285410Anti-satan. Ava's Demon is down with the devil.
>>726280956>against antisWhat does this mean?>defended Sam (So Sorry) when he used his character for fetish artistIt was retarded to include that guy in the game, but it was Sam's character, he can do what he wants with it
>>726280956Also Toby support the interpretation on the left and he NEVER in his career ever supported r even mentioned non binary and trans people EVEN in the peak of woke years when saying "trans rights" was the most repeated phrase even among conservatives and catholic priests.Toby just wants to make a HMOFA sim based on Japanese RPG's
>>726285165>loli titsI'm not an expert on the subject but I was under the impression the lack of tits was part of the appeal
>>726286125Does it matter? Toby is never going to open his mouth one way or another about this
>>726286156Let me tell you opai loli...
>>726280956>Tobyfox is into slutty big titty hagsHe gets more based every day I learn something new about him
>>726280956It's cute how undertroons are stuck in the 10's mindset as if they still had any power to "cancel" someone over literally nothing.Meanwhile us Deltachads are feasting on an actually good game with fine Japanese kino tropes like consensual rape.
Rape on the doe or wholesome family making with the dino?
>>726280956If that doesn't delay the game any further then I don't give a fuck what he does in his spare time.
>>726282312>antisMaybe I really am an unc because I have no idea what antis are
Marine on the front page!
>>726286949Anti shippers, I'm assuming.Toby is a Asriel X Chara fan so I'm sure he secretly dislikes them.
>>726286872Only weak retards like women which are way more masculine than themEither Susie stops dressing like a literal delinquent or Noelle is the obvious choiceAlso fuck Toby making Noelle's route a shit rape metaphor, worthless pile of crap
>>726287025Are people against shipping now days? Back in my way everyone got shipped with everything
>>726285330At least you're not into swapswaps, right? Right?
>>726281823Stupid fandom shit. Antis are anti-shippers who don't like degenerate shit in media and in fandoms and don't want kids exposed to that stuff. The opposite side's called pro-shippers who are all for degenerate shit to be out in the open and think it's their god given human right to force kids into it no matter what.
>>726286457Actually, on second thought, please don't clarify furtherI'm sorry I asked
>>726280956The western fanbase needs to be exterminated. Holy fucking shit. All of them in the gas chambers. Do you think Toby fox gets this kind of fucking treatment when he shows up at Comitia or Comiket? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hck0d5gad_A
>>726287181They don't force kids into jack, no one wants to talk to interact with nutjob kids.
>>726286079They mean anti-ship. It's a person that gets mad at you if you ship two characters that are "problematic".So being "against antis" means they don't harass people for shipping fictional characters.Yes it's really dumb.
>>726287181Shippers are absolute cancer, antis sound based as fuck
>vtuber chadjust boughted ten copies of deltarune
>>726287101I'll freely admit I tend to dislike a lot of shipping fandoms, but I think the whole anti vs pro shipping debate is FUCKING STUPID.Like, who cares?
>>726287283No they're fucking not.Antis will slit your throat for any kind of thought you have, if you dare to put yourself out there for anything.
>>726287181>to forceHow the fuck do they force anyone to do anything?
>>726286949it's basically people who throw a fit over stuff like fictional incest or underage characters
>>726280956Sharteens lost.
>>726287378>>726287181>>726281823"proshipping" is just when you think people can make whatever stuff they want, and "antishipping" is when you want to stop people from writing stuff that you personally think is immoral
>>726287283Shippers look like bastions of sanity in comparison.
Honestly, I don't hate the idea of keeping segments of the fandom separate. Kids PROBABLY shouldn't be browsing minecraft porn or whatever and as a adult I do think you have some responsibility to keep that separate Thankfully, I mostly browse on 4chan. So, go ahead Dess X Kris and Noelle rape greentexts here.
>>726287283Antis are the ones who see minors and literal children in every anime and movie and they spent entire life hunting you for liking azumanga daioh
>>726287310
>>726287732cute
>>726287181From what I observed, it's always artists being jealous and trying to kick out competition. Artists that criticize the subject matter like lolishit are always shit artists who are jelly at asian autism being able to crank out high quality art.
I genuinly don't understand the appeal of VTubers.Is it just a way for people to masturbate while watching lets play without it being weird?
>>726287278Shippers are cancer but so are wokescolds, so I guess I hate everybody in this scenario
>>726286949If a character's in a relationship with someone underage? Expect an anti.If a character's in an incestual relationship? Here comes an anti.A character's in a relationship with someone far older than them? Anti time.Is a character NOT gay? Anti.Does your fictional character LOOK young? Anti.Does your imaginary story promote something bad if you look at it on it's side? anti.Does your written story lack this or that or anything objectionable in any way shape or form? ANTI.Is there absolutely nothing wrong with what you've made but you've decided to share your work with the world? GUESS who'll just make shit up about it! An Anti!
>>726287354>>726287598>>726287659Okay maybe they're worse than I thought.If they're saying "keep that shit away from children you faggots" they're based, if they're psychopath busybodies they're cringe
>>726287556>you want to stop people from writing stuff that you personally think is immoralWe're really crying and shitting our pants over letters now?
>>726287862They're both, really.
>>726287830western fandoms are so bakas desu
>>726287181Antis want some forms of art and expression to be illegal because they thing it's immoralLike depictions of straight relationships or nuclear families
>>726287732I hate the way this guy communicates, it sounds like a massively fake persona
>>726287910That's just your autism flaring up
>>726287830>>726287898And people wonder why western media is nothing but Marvel slop. No one is allowed to be creative/autistic
>>726287910You sound like this silly guy I know who whines about literally everyone being nice and it being "performative".
>anti/pro shipping autismFriendly reminder that only braindead zoomer and gen a children use those terms and think like that.
>>726287862Children are irrelevant, no one's aiming for children as their audience besides other shitty horrible children.You should know at this point that people are only using children as an excuse to make everything worse.
>>726288027Only christcucks use the "think of the children" excuse for their morality bullshit.
>Letting Kids play a game with a active rape scene in it.Your fault...
>>726288012Or, you know.People "gay enough" to have a tumblr.
>>726287278Anti pro ship is the original term, because it originated with people opposed to media that had incest relationships, massive age gaps, student teacher stuff etc in fiction.The ship got dropped to include groups that are anti depictions of certain things in literature not related to shipping or relationships, such as lolis, extreme violence, rape, slavery, racism (yes including fantasy racism like dwarves hating elves or orks being retarded) etc.They were always the fun police, but they have evolved into being people who cry about any art whatsoever that makes them uncomfortable.
This whole "think of da children" business is a direct consequence of the internet being consolidated into 5 websites. Of course adults and children sharing the same spaces would lead to terrible circumstances. In fact, I would go even further and say that most modern problems are caused by this fact.
>>726288542Twitter becoming the main place for art drops is one of the worst things to happen to the internet.
>>726287556I initially supported the pro-shipper side because they'd claim that any kind of media and fanworks are allowed and that fiction doesn't affect reality, both which sounded reasonable to me. But after hanging around them for a while and lurking around the anti-shipper camp recently to see what they're like, I'm more disgusted by the pro-shipper side and bailing out. They claim that they're all for any kind of ships but look down upon anyone that's not into degenerate shit like incest and abuse. They sound so predatory and hypocritical when talking about other people who prefer tamer and more vanilla stuff. They're only anti-harassment as long as you support degeneracy. Their communities on Tumblr especially welcome in other groups like pro-para (people who support all paraphilias), transID (a collection of groups who believe that they are trans disabled/species/ages/races/etc.) and radqueer (who support all "good faith" identities which are basically an overlap of all these groups). Opposing the inclusion of these unrelated groups under the pro-ship banner or wanting overall fandom crap kept to bio adults only gets you labeled an anti and a bigot.Yes I know it's my own damned fault for becoming a Tumblrina in the first place but it's a learning experience to say the least.
Oh boy vtuber gossip stuff!I love it when girls talk about themselves and idiotic guys throw money at them for it, but it's okay because there's a jiggling live2D thing in the corner.
>>726288758then don't hang out with people who are into incest and abuseonly one side is trying to force everyone else to be like them
>>726288795What?
>>726288795Is the vtuber gossip in the room with us?
>>726288758You can be pro ship without spending time in those communities you fucking retard. Just like you can be pro unlimited free speech and not spend your days on /pol/ or stormfront. While I'm not a lolicon myself I'm pro loli, but I avoid the hell out of those communities because they're all fucking gooners that never stop posting porn or bragging about how much they gooned in a given day.
>>726288795Have vtubers mindbroken you so god damned hard that you're going schizo and seeing them in places they aren't?
>>726281242>uchikoshi isn't there He's washed
>>726280956what a fucking chad, we need more creators like him
>>726280956I can see why he is trying to become Japanese.Western """fans""" sound absolutely insufferable. I can't even interpret what half of this mental illness means.
>>726288758Why are you hanging out with jack-asses, moron? You don't have to join a discord for a "fan community" to enjoy fan content.How does hanging out with antis sound better? Do you want them to fuck you up when you dare to be creative? How does that sound better to you? Fucking dipshit. Your plan on life sounds retarded.
I don't understand this schizo thread
>>726288758It seems that the underlying problem is that tumblrinas are power-hungry, attention-whoring control freaks regardless of their position. The only winning move here is to not interact with them at all.
>>726280956>>726281823antis talk about some artist like theyre peter scully and you look at their crime and they just drew susie deltarune in a bikini
>against antislol pedos mad
>>726289356Lots of antis are closet pedos trying to dissuade people from suspecting them
>>726281675Toby is based because he likes what he likes and doesn't care if that pisses off faggots on the internet.
>>726287181>don't like degenerate shit in media and in fandoms and don't want kids exposed to that stuffFuck off moralfag, go clutch pearls somewhere else
>>726289474didnt he censor that supposed rape scene because in Deltarune because it was some trannies comfort character or smth
>>726287283antis are shippers too, they're just shippers with a moral superiority complex
>>726281214personally this is my favorite OOC toby quote
>>726287181Keep in mind, the people who use those terms are tumblr faggots, so their definition of "problematic ship" can mean something as simple "She's 16 you sick fuck" and "shipping a gay character with a member of the opposite sex".
>>726289517No, the truth is that it was never a rape scene, Kris just mindbroke the deer but Toby the magnificent retard thought it'd be a good idea to convey that with imagery of a rose being deflowered, because apparently he didn't know what that really meant until it was too late. So he changed it for something that couldn't be misinterpreted.
>>726288824I don't intend to hang out with those kinds of people but unfortunately they're common in that circle and those types of things are often supported even by those that aren't into it. I've washed my hands of pro-shippers and just keep to myself or lurk for fandom stuff.>>726288951I dunno if pro-ship would be the right term for me nowadays because of how tainted it became for me and I find that I agree more with the anti-shippers instead over time. Some types of adult content shouldn't be out in the open or forced into other people's faces.>>726289495Not wanting rape, incest and other disgusting stuff shoved in other people's faces is moralfagging and pearl clutching? Weird hill to die on.>>726289709I'll just have to lurk more to find a group of antis who's more reasonable on what's considered "problematic".
>>726287278rapeable design
No one is shoving that content in others faces. You go looking in places it exists and get mad that it exists there.
>>726280956Who are you trying to gaslight here, everyone who knows about any of that knows what really happened, for example the so sorry guy, of course toby would just want to get rid of it and not put his legacy in jeopardy for a diaper furry, but at the same time he has to set a good example, what would people think of him if he didn't defend him/defuse drama the way he did
>>726289819I think most pro-shippers support tagging content to limit exposing it to people who don't want to see it. I think you're lost in the sauce.
>>726289575Incredibly based
>>726289819Why are you here? You come to 4chan to cry about shotacons or incest? Fuck off normalfag. We are not your friends.
>>726287101People are against the people who can't shut up about something being wrong like>nooo you can't ship them that girl is a lesbian!>noooo they are related you can't ship them>noooo that ship goes against my ship head canon and is gross and icky stop it!>nooo these two characters are shipped so you say that one of them is for your MCShiiping has become this thing where a lot of people think what they feel is actual fact and that if you don't agree with it you need to be removed
Honestly, who are the based people that are against tagging and filtering art/fanfics?
>>726282749No, I think the abolition of mental asylums is what did that.
>>726290008>nooo you can't ship them that girl is a lesbian!Noelle. >noooo they are related you can't ship themAsriel.>noooo that ship goes against my ship head canon and is gross and icky stop it!Frisk. >nooo these two characters are shipped so you say that one of them is for your MCSusie.
>>726290015I like tags. Boorus would be unusable without them
>>726287965>who whines about literally everyone being nice and it being "performative".Sometimes it isDepends on the circumstances though
>>726289564>antis are shippers tooshipping insanity + wokescold insanityGood god, that sounds atrocious
>>726289819You're such an insufferable person every post you make reeks of your neuroticism. You're probably a woman so your retarded friend group is too nice to say this to you but please try doing a bit of introspection maybe for the first time in your entire life.
>>726289978>implyingIf that were the case that incest VN and pedophile platformer game threads would have more than 4 people across both of them
>>726287898Now you know why nips just delete their online presence after dealing with westerners. And westerners will always try to spin it like they aren't the cause.
>>726289819>Some types of adult content shouldn't be out in the open>Not wanting rape, incest and other disgusting stuffSo basically you're just a retard that believes in censoring art.No one is forcing this on anyone you dumb fuck
>>726288758What the fuck are these wordsJanny tear down this thread
>>726290129Archive of our own is barely usable even with them. So, yeah.
>>726289978This is a good post, it's like you've put my thoughts into words.
>>726289517No, he probably did that because it was a Switch 2 launch title and he wanted to keep being invited to Sakurai's parties. The censorship was basically just in name only. He replaced a rose being deflower with a shattered glass/thorn effect that looked like the violent morning stranger, and the actual rape scene and the rape the route is still there.
>>726290223I don't know what you're referring to but I do want you to know that you will never belong here, immigrant nigger. Go to the sharty with the rest of the underages.
>>726290517>I don't know what you're referring toOh yeah you do dummy. If you didn't you wouldn't be that mad.
>>726289575>crazy obnoxious black lady commercialWhat is he referring to?>I just off-hand stay "oh my god that's so straight" to balance it outWhat a faggot lol
>>726290568>>726290223Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>726289517That """""""""""""""""""""""""""rape""""""""""""""""""""""""""" scene's context is strongly exaggerated.I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes at all or why Toby changed the graphic for that one part of the scene but I trust him. He's got a very specfic story to tell.
>>726290223They do but you are obviously a schizo who does not belong on this site for your own wellbeing
>>726290183it is
>>726280956>against antiswhat does it mean
>>726290780for the definition of antis, see >>726287830
>>726290683I don't anon, the context is pretty intense. Obviously no one with a functioning brain thinks its actually rape, we just call it the rape scene because that's what its an obvious metaphor for.
>>726290685Lmao no they don't, it's like the fucking bombergirl threads.
>>726280956>against antisthe fuck is an "anti"? anti-what?
>>726290847oh, well, I mean, I guess so.
>>726290881Anti uncomfortable art
>>726289801So Toby came up with the idea and told his team aboutThen wrote a script to give the idea contextThen made the sprites to be used and showed the teamThen created the scene and had people watch itAnd during all of this no one told Toby what deflowering means?
>>726290881read the fucking thread
>>726290879Look, I get that you hate things so you think no one can like them but that's mentally ill behavior that you need to grow out of before it gets worse.
>>726290904>>726290847>>726290683It isn't actually rape but holy shit are the stories/art that turn it into actual rape hot.
>>726290929so like snowflakes or hall monitors or somethingseriously anti is such a gay ass term to settle on using. for artfags there is no originality here
>>726280956>Toby is a lolishoIs that supposed to be bad? I love his canonically loli characters.
>>726291060I don't really care about some boring VN that has 2 retards talking about how much they want to fuck their sister because they're fugly.
>>726291084hyeah
>>726291036Maybe they all just assumed he knew and thought it was a bold creative decision.
>>726291039no, spoonfeed meI refuse to believe it's about shipping, that's gotta be bait, ad I'm not about to dig through a hundred bait responses to find the one real response
>>726291254I think its actually hotter when Kris has a deadpan expression, rather than the evil rape face.
>>726291373Anti shipping, specifically ships like incest, rape, or age gap.
>>726280956What is antis?
>>726291435Hottest ones for me is when Kris is clearly uncomfortable but also still secretly enjoys it and hates himself for it.
>>726291156They came up with the name for themselves, they called themselves anti pro-ship (which pro ship itself was a gay ass name in the first place to be fair), but that is way too gay to call someone so it judt got shortened to anti
>>726291509I seeI liked it when terminally online mental illness on the Internet manifested as Otherkin and stuff like that. at least it was funny
>>726291373No, its really that stupid.
>>726291435I should go look for more art to add to my folder...
>>726291373The group / community / ideology started as anti problematic shipping, hence the original term "anti-proship" in contrast to the "pro-ship" community that believes in allowing unlimited artistic expression, and evolved into anti problematic anything, adding in opposition to loli content, rape, hyper sexualized content, sexism, racism, slavery, genocide etc.Basically anti just means pro censorship.
>>726291449>>726291630>>726291675jesus christ you guys are serious
>>726291501you have any examples?
>>726291786Mostly some stories on archive of our own.
>>726291817such as?
>>726287025Toby is actually very clearly a pro-shipper, and he absolutely knows the shotacons and lolicons he teams up with and doesn't mind them. And that's based.
>>726291859I'm currently at work so I'm somewhat reluctant to look them up.If this thread or a different one is still up in a few hours I might.
>>726291783Yea blame the tumblr exodus, these nutcases spread to Twitter and discord groups and began grooming kids into their insane beliefsThat's why half of antis are people 20 and younger
>>726291783Dog you're talking to A (singular) mentally ill retard who regularly uses Tumblr.
>>726291861Basically every ship in his games apart from the three gay ones are pro ships.
>>726291968Yea, Tumblr, known as a community that loves free speech, lolis, fantasy racism, and things that make 30 year old women and trannies uncomfortable
>>726292117i knew this pic would still be relevant
>>726292117I am 50% sure that's just the Deltarune thread schizo who thinks all threads are just a samefag getting triggered.
>>726291979Soriel isn't a pro-ship. Neither I would say Krusie is.
>>726292654>krusieWalks the line due to Susie being headcanoned as a lesbian.
>>726286950hag sex
>>726292654>Sorielit should be>Krusiestraightwashing
Stop using words invented by disturbingly fat 14-year-old girls
>>726292828Most people here are disturbingly fat 14 year old boys mentally if not physically so it fits.
>>726287181are we actually talking about this here? what has this site come tobeing an anti means you're pro-censorship and being proship is anti censorship you fucking retard
>>726287894zoomies are yes, they fucking beyond help.
>>726292758Lots of the fandom are seeing Krusie/Kriselle as a yuri ship to make it a pro, but fair enough. Every human ship outside of Charisk (kinda) is a pro-ship, huh.
>>726288758you need to be 18 years or older to use this website
>>726281242Uchi isn't big in Japan.
>>726293014>Noelle X KrisYes, but don't expect anybody to admit that when it's so popular among humans.>Frisk X Monster kidHonestly fine, but it's unpopular so doubt it will become a thing.>Frisk X CharaHonestly SHOULD be a proship. Basically makes Noelle X Kris look like a friendly and healthy relationship if you ignore narrator theory (And even then kind of fucked up). Isn't though, for reasons. >Kris X BerdlyMostly fine.>Kris X SusiePeople act like it's Yuri to make it more acceptable.Rest is doomed.
>>726290881anti-retardedyou're against anti's if you can think for more than 5 seconds
>>726293161*so popular Among womenFreudian slip there...
>>726293161Charisk isn't a pro-ship literally because it is seem as gay way more explicitly than Kriselle and Krusie where they have to convince you Kris is a chick. Gay ships are always seem as more pro-ship than anything straight, even if they're on the same level of abusive. Antis are mostly wokies for that reason.
>>726293371what about the "they're children" angle? a lot of antis get pissed about aged-up ships
>>726293371>It seems gayI guess? I honestly don't hate the ship, but it's weird how lacking in substance most depictions of it are. Also thematically Chara letting go is the good ending.
>>726280956Death of the author, I hate toby fox since he's an annoying zoomer but that won't stop me from liking his games
>>726293409That's only seem as bad if it's a child x an adult character. If it's two kiddos together it's fine.>>726293439Yeah, I am not a big fan of the ship. Chasriel and Flowisk are better imo.
Idk how you guys managed to do it but you just won the most mentally unwell thread of the year award
>>726293745other sites talk about shit like this all of the time apparently, so if you really wanna imagine something harrowing, think this thread but forever.
>>726293612Like I said, I like it conceptually (Mostly because of Narrator Chara theory) but rarely in practice. My boring pick for a Frisk ship would probably be monster kid and Frisk though I also kind of like the idea of Noelle X Frisk at least conceptually.
>>726293942Kid and Frisk is just too boring for me because the dude isn't an interesting character. He's just a excited boy.
>>726287181>election tourists are now trying to reframe mentally ill 15 year old she/they palestine transbian demipansexuals as heckin based trads against degeneracylollmao
>>726294078I get that. I just think it's cute aesthetically so it's good.
>>726294124Fair enough. I liked how they looked in the winter newsletter.
>>726294087>palestine transbian demipansexuals as heckin based trads against degeneracyThey're oddly similar. I guess they were both conceived by the americans deep seated feeling of shame over their own thoughts.
>>726280956My best friend worked on Undertale and I’m inventing heteropills every day, killing lgbtq and woke culture with my brain, for ruining my personal life.This will change their mindset to be more like Michelle of Ava’s Demon (who guided my style development like here) and others. It’s not enough in that direction.I send my heteropills to professional artists for the crime of oppression of the worker, very unfair. We will literally have the straightest time to be an artist in history because of me and my purifying brain. People will never again say “artists are gay”