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Oh dear oh dear. Is it true, is Metroid Prime 4 cooked?
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>>726283304
>in the middle of a game that once thrived on silence, tension, and quiet discovery
you faggots haven't played Prime 3 in a decade at least and it shows

oh and of course, no one played federation force either (prime 4 is a sequel to federation force, not 3)
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>>726283851
>IT IS FINE THAT PEDOTENDO BRINGS IN SONY DEVELOPERS, WHICH I CLEARLY IGNORED TO SHITPOST!
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i just wanna say, i heckin love modern writing. it truly has elevated media onto another level
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>>726283851
This shit is why people talk about Prime 1 and Echoes but never talk about 3.
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>>726283851
Prime 3 had problems that stemmed from appealing to casuals. But in any case it did not feature escort missions at its core basic gameplay, and the extra characters were bosses that used the few cutscenes they got as build up and building tension, not chatty companions that pointed out the solutions and that you needed to protect in slow ass coop NPC missions.
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And the mask comes off in two posts

Eternal nintendo derangement syndrome
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>>726283851
yes, and prime 3 sucked too, and people were saying the same thing at the time. you haven't forgotten have you, anon? you were old enough to remember, right?
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>>726283851
Prime 3 rival bounty hunters were bosses and competion for Samus.
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Not the hecking first world problems!
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>>726283851
I never played prime 3 ever. It was at the tail end of the gamecube where I was rockin' halo 2 instead.
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>>726283851
>b-but Prime 3 did it!
Yeah and it sucked and waggle gimmicks and wanting to be Halo so much almost killed the game for me
>b-but Other M and Fusion were linear and story heavy!
Yeah and they were fucking worse for it, Fusion may have had some fun segments but it was no Super Metroid, stop acting like it's some kind of gotcha when "it was done before" is always the worse games
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>>726283304
>enter spooky cave
>GOSH! I haven't been this scared since my 8th birthday party with my uncle we can't talk about anymore..... *farts* sorry
I can't wait for the gems this gamenwill provide
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>>726283851
Nigga, you kill all three of those bounty hunters in that screencap, and individually they're not even given that much screentime during their intro scenes when you meet them.
Myles and the other 4(?) people of your crew you assemble in MP4 sound like they're gonna be with you on and off for the whole game, AND they've got health bars, meaning it's going to be an escort quest.

Besides, MP3 was always going to be a magnet for change since it was released on the Wii and had to implement a bunch of gimmicks to make up for the odd controllers and the motion controls.
Don't get me wrong, I still liked the game, I just wouldn't put it that high in a tierlist.
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>>726283851
Prime 3 always was FUCKING GARBAGE and already ruined what the previous two games achieved almost 20 years ago, yes.
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>>726283851
No you never played Prime3. These characters were introduced and then fucked off entirely until you ran into them and had to kill them. They were only present during the opening cutscenes to flesh out the world and situation that the game is covering. You're a disingenuous faggot.
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>>726283851
So we're just going to overlook the fact that Prime 3 is consistently considered the worst of the trilogy
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>>726283304
>sour grapes faggot makes the same thread 89 times in a row
Only makes me want the game more
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>>726287339
It's way better than echoes are you fucking high
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>>726283851
I distinctly remember thinking prime 3 sucked ass because of all the NPCs, voice acting, and different planets removing the essential atmosphere of Metroid. You’re just a retard who has spent 2 decades gobbling whatever tripe Nintendo shits out and assuming it was perfection. Prime 3 was shit
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The metroid games that missed the mark and shoved endless deluges of dialouge down the players throat werent critisized nearly enough. Fusion, prime 3, other m, federation force, and now prime 4 all need to be referred to as amoung the worst games of all time, right up there with ride to hell retribution and atari ET. The bad metroid games i listed have always been underhated and deserve it more than so many games that get hated here every day. The culture and discussion around the franchise needs to change.
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>>726283304
why is nintendo shtting the bed so hard this year ?
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>>726287871
So is the exaggeration there just to make people upset or something?
I don't get it.
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>>726283851
People bitched about it in Prime 3 as well; the best people said about them was that they were bland and only radioed in at certain story milestones. Prime 4 made it worse because MacKenzie never shuts the fuck up and says Reddit lines.
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>>726287952
>using whitoid devs
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>>726287975
We praise games that have a positive influence on the way the art is made.
We should also criticize games that have a negative impact. Metroid fusion and prime 3 are worse games than atari ET because of how they have influenced the franchise. Simple as.
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>>726288418
So it's just exaggeration then to get people upset, I get it.
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>>726288708
You dont get it but thats fine kid.
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>>726283304
>Open World
It's not though
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>>726283851
when people talk about how good prime is, they're not talking about prime 3
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Alright fuckers, what are the best tracks, and why are they Torvus Bog and Hydrodynamo Station?
Also mention to multiplayer's Hunter theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn61sgP3nQ4
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>>726287312
you spend the first 3 hours of prime 3 interacting with loads of npc characters, not just the hunters and once you're of exploring the planets you ALWAYS have the aurora unit directing you through the game
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>>726288775
No I absolutley get it, your bait is kind of stale though.
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>>726283851
Prime should have ended with 3. Dark Samus is dead
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>>726283851
Prime 3 is still criticized partly for the increased focus on story and characters but at least 3's bounty hunters + Dane were cool and had memorable moments attached to them making them easy to like in retrospect. I'm not discounting the possibility of Myles getting the same treatment but what's been shown hasn't inspired confidence he'll be anything more than Mr. Reddit.
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>>726283304
And none of it matters because nintendo drones will buy it anyway.
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IMO the worst part is the faux-open world. It’s clearly filler. The sidekicks are going to have terrible writing, sure, but they likely won’t detract from the game much. The four hours of sand will.
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>>726283304
>all of asudden journos and xitter are THE source of reliable information
Yes Eric,, you're "le cooked".
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>>726283851
This is the exact reason why prime 3 is shit you retard. Nobody wanted this Saturday morning cartoon halo for babies trash.
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>>726283304
It's completely true.
It would be shit if Doomguy had a small demon on his shoulder constantly yapping at him or Gordon freeman having someone on an earpiece giving their life story away throughout the game.

Part of what makes these silent protag games so compelling is that we DON'T have someone talking to us all the fucking time telling us where we need to go and what to do.
It's just us, ambience and a job to do, we figure it out as we go and overcome the challenge.
If you have an Ashley Graham, Navi/Fi or Issun with you then it really takes you out of the experience.

I think the hate for the metroid guy is going to be overblown, it's not going to be as bad a claptrap, but it's still unnecessary in a metroid game; something that should have been learned from Other M is that Samus works alone and including other people in the games is a detriment
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>kaBRutus
Lol, fuck this scamming macaco.
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why are metroid fags suddenly pretending metroid is about "silence and isolation"??

These tourists literally did not play the games. More metroid games have dialogue and NPCs than dont.
>b-but he may not just be a tutorial andy, he may stay around forever!!!
literally retarded take, how the fuck do people even imagine this in a game where we clearly mount a bike solo, blast across miles of sand, then enter a massive temple alone in all the footage? does he just teleport? if so why was he stranded?
its pretty clear we will dump him off at some kind of central hub, as with the other people, probably one in each sector.
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>>726289492
>why are metroid fags suddenly pretending metroid is about "silence and isolation"??
Read any Metroid thread from the 2000's and you'll see the say the same thing, you disingenuous retard.

Too young to remember, or just a Nintendo fanboy; which is it?
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>>726289492
I don't remember Prime 1 and 2 having much of any dialogue, especially for 1. 2 at least had the moth priest who only periodically came up at big events such as finishing an area and basically just gave a debriefing about things and told what's next to continue unfucking Aether to get you your next big goal. Neither had dialogue like what 3 or 4 has/will have, especially not this capeshit Marvel tier stuff.
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>>726289293
prime 3 is the weakest one, the point im making is that everything that people are complaining about was already there but poser secondaries are now pretending they were always big metroid fans yet they clearly didn't play these games in the past decade
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>>726289310
There's a constant stream of people talking to Gordon freeman, the difference is they aren't annoying as fuck and they fit in the setting. Prime is giving everyone tonal whiplash because a guy complaining about his boring deskjob and animating like a gay nerd in a perfunctory comedy routine is anti sci-fi and anti mysterious.

This feels like they hired a bunch of AAA Devs who have never played metroid and were studying all the worst, most hated parts of 3 and other M without realising everyone hates that shit
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>>726289880
True and based! Personally as a huge true Metroid fan I'm so excited to see the main appeal and the unique factors of the series completely undermined so it can be more like Playstation games. I think wr can all agree that we had enough isolation during the global pandemic. We have enough anxiety and that's why Myles is exactly what we need in Metroid. Myles and friends will be there to make sure we never forget to save our game and to ensure we never get lost while exploring, and we love that. We are here for it.
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>>726290112
Anon, pls, that is way too close to what I can expect to read if I actually looked at a "journalist" article
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>>726289880
Your point is retarded, yes, other M also exists and everyone hates that too. When people talk about why prime is good it is about the feeling that the first and part of the second game induced, not the cringe shit they want to forget in later games.

The reason why it's so egregious and the complaints are so loud is this is exceeding other M with how off-putting it is. This isn't just a faceless scared soldier fumbling his gun and saying a bunch of scared grunt shit like every halo game, it's a zoom in cutscene on his ugly head while he animates like a Reddit fag.

Remove the cutscenes, remove his dumb face, shut him up after the initial meeting and there are no complaints.
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>>726288040
No anon the problem is using millennial devs, millennial "people" are cultural acid
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>>726289880
I love how the main complaint of Prime 3 went from "no connected world" to "too many characters" because some journo complained about it for Prime 4 and snoys just had to jump on it, undermining themselves trough it.
Not that they would ever realise let alone learn from it. Console warring supersedes everything after all.
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>>726290984
The complaints about prime 3 have always been the Saturday morning cartoon halo shit and the mediocre, disjointed levels. The thing that is consistently praised is the weird sky area because it was unique and cool. You're creating this snoy strawman to cope.
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games that did
>Metroid, Metroid II: Return of Samus, Super Metroid

games that didn't
>Metroid Fusion, Metroid Prime, Metroid: Zero Mission, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Metroid Prime Pinball, Metroid Prime Hunters, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid Prime: Trilogy, Metroid: Other M, Metroid Prime: Federation Force, Metroid: Samus Returns, Metroid Dread, Metroid Prime Remastered, Metroid Prime 4: Beyond
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>first they came for the cinematic action game players
>and i kept silent because i am not a cinematic action game player
>then they came for the stealth game players
>and i still kept silent because i am not a stealth game player
>then they came for the RPG players
>i still kept silent because i am not an RPG player
>now they are coming for my tendies
>and there is nobody left to speak for me

watching you tendies getting hit by the same whedonism the rest of western pop culture had to suffer for almost 20 years feels so good you can't even imagine.
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>>726283304
Monster Hunter World was a breakthrough hit for capcom. Wilds followed up with more strong sales.

The thing they both have in common is a support character that is permanently attached to you which you can't get rid of and a higher focus on side characters in the story, which were definetly the magic ingredients in making the games such a success, according to the director.

In short, fuck you
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>>726283851
It wasn't good then and it's not good now
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>>726283304
>The twitter post said reddit
Oh no no prime4bros no no no...
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I simply wonder what the hell is up with the development process.
>Hey we're known for making football games
>Lets add stuff that people dont expect from a football game like hockey sticks! That surely wont drive away people who want Football Game 4, and we'll cater to Ice Hockey fans as well! Ice hockey is really popular now so I cant see why they wouldnt buy Football Game (with hockey sticks)!
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>>726283304
Am I literally the only one who thought there would be more characters? That's what they showed from the beginning.
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jews did this
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i cant say im surprised they ruined metroid but i am sad about it. it was like the last nintendo series left that i had some hope for.
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Is it possible to use the side dash in Metroid Prime 1 (Wii version) while using free aim with the wiimote? Or are you forced to lock the aim to use the dash?
In the case of Dolphin + Primehack (mouse+keyboard), is there a solution for you to use the side dash without locking the aim first?
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>>726283851
One of my favorite /v/ talking points.
>did you know earlier game in the series also had [insert shitty elements]?
Yes, I did know that. Sequels are supposed to improve upon the previous games while keeping the good elements. Not take the questionable elements and make them even more annoying and pronounced.

Nobody is a Metroid Prime fan because of 3. People at best begrudgingly accept it as a weaker but still sort of "acceptable" ending to the trilogy.
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Isn't that fag a grifter?
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>>726283851
>you guys forgot about prime 3
prime 3 was so bad it killed the series
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>>726283851
yenba
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>>726283304

>in the middle
>in the opening

keep it together man
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>>726289096
Prime 3 was still fun to play because the motion controls felt like an evolution of FPS gaming. The Wii was such a great console to play FPS.
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>>726283851
You are the one who didn't play Prime 3 tranny, the bounty hunters were red shirts/ bosses for Samus to kill and had at most 1 or 2 minutes of recorded dialogue
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>>726302481
>the first bite of a sandwich isn't stuff between bread, because you didn't bite the very center of the sandwich
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>>726292794
I'm no expert but
>games that didn't
>Metroid Dread
wtf man? you are alone and those retarded bots that chased you added to tension
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>>726283851
>It's OK, the devs made the exact same fuckup once before, they're allowed to do it again
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>>726306603
you talk to Adam , or "Adam" throughout the entire game, its pretty similar to Fusion in that regard
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>>726307539
desu I completely forgot about "him", you are right
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Could you people at least try to vary your fake outrage spamming, the exact same copypasted posts and images in every single thread has already gotten incredibly boring.
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>>726292794
>Super Metroid

"The last Metroid is in captivity. The galaxy is at peace."
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>>726308990
The opening crawl was the only dialogue. You didn't have a bunch of scientist yap at Samus when she went to check the Baby Metroid because well they were dead. The Opening Crawl was about setting the mood for the game. Like shit is all good now, but it isn't kinda vibe. The music, very triumphic but it was a false victory, a gut in the punch if you played Metroid 1 and 2. It was akin to the Opening Crawl in a Flash Gordon or Star Wars movie.
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>>726309582
It's a monologue
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>>726290984
My main complaint was always hyper mode being ass.
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>>726283851
Rundas had such a fucking cool boss theme
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Test
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>>726310051
The Opening Crawl is Samus catching us up to speed with the story so far in the form of her writing her log. It's quick, to the point and doesn't get in the way. Samus tell us a quick recap of her previous adventures, about the captured Metroid, that she left it with some scientists at a space station and that said station is under attacked. That's all you need. You didn't have her yapping about Adam, or about the Baby or have some dweeb tell you shit you already know. Idk why is it so hard for Nintendo to just make a Metroid game.
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>nintendo bringing in former sony developers
ew, first I've heard of this

>>726283851
3 is easily the worst Prime game, not a great argument
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>>726310654
Yeah they hired a couple of Snoys to make Prime 4.
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>>726283851
>it's the same because the game had NPCs before
Not it's not and people don't complain about that because it's not the same.
Those characters were barely given screentime and they were all bosses. They didn't travel with you in areas or commented on what you're doing.

Prime 3 was still good but by far the weakest in the trilogy too.
>Federation Force
Of course nobody played it, it's ass
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>>726310649
And before someone says but Anon there wasn't all that because tech at the time. Bullshit. You already have JRPGs with long as fuck dialogue by then and if they wanted they could have added cutscenes to the game. But they didn't because it was an Action Adventure game about finding the stolen Metroid and stopping the Space Pirates once and for all where it all began.

Whats sad is that they already made a 3D game like that in the form of Metroid Prime which in many ways captured the vibe of Super Metroid in 3D. This was done 20+ years ago. If it can be done then, it can be done now.
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>>726310514
I swear Retro wanted us to love him and feel bad for having to kill him because his boss theme is unlike any other boss theme in the Prime games. A minute in always gets to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TZcmLnlkU&list=RDR5TZcmLnlkU&start_radio=1
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I liked prime 3 and I won't pretend it sucks just to hate on myles
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>>726296815
this
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>>726283851
>you faggots haven't played Prime 3 in a decade
Thats true, the last time i played bioshock infinite was 13 years ago. The grappling hook rail sections were good but the exploration was shit, every area was too linear, and i wish the characters didnt talk at all.
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>>726310514
>>726311190
Based Rundaschads
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>>726310721
>Snoys
They were Xboners from 343 though
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>>726283851
Neither did you apparently since the other hunters are introduced in the intro to serve as bosses later. None of them follow you around in the main overworlds while constantly quipping.
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Fighting Meta Ridley while falling down the mineshaft in Prime 3 was kino though.
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>>726283304
>he
honestly didn't know if it was a man or woman from all the pics posted
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>>726290984
>>726291417
Gonna be honest, the "no connected world" thing was always kinda stupid. Metroid's worlds or zones rather have always been broken up by elevators and the ship in Prime 3 essentially serves the same function. Funny enough Prime 2's world is pretty mediocre aside from the Sanctuary Fortress.
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WITH MY FREAKING MIND
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>>726283851
>you faggots haven't played the gutter slop that killed the franchise
yeah no kidding retard
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>>726283851
The FPS trash isn't Metroid
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>>726283851
It wasn't that fucking bad. It had a few cutscenes, there were some federation trooper extra standing around. I remember on Elysium the main AI would give you updates and orders, which was far more intrusive to gameplay than your pic, and those guys were used as cool bosses (Rundas was based). Also while prime 3 might have excessively used the motion controls, they made the actual shooting 100x better than 1 and 2, which were at their best in the trilogy collection. It's a good game.
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>Nintendo bringing Sony devs
So my suspicions was been confirmed, huh?
The "Sonyfication" of Nintendo has just began...
Fucking kill me, dude....
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nintendo's primary audience is all the $0¥ guzzling depressed childless millennial faggots
they love all those silly meme nu-pokemon designs and le wholesome dollhouse crap in nu-animal crossing
watch as nintendo reels in even more normies and deranged shiteaters with their movies
this guy in metroid is obviously going to become extremely popular among the nu-nintendo crowd
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It's cooked. Let them cook.
They were really cooking with this one.
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>>726283304
Do THAT'S why there's so many grifters talking about Prime now
Because your masters, him and Grummz, posted about it
Now it makes sense
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>>726318204
>grifters
Opinion discarded
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>>726318296
You guys are though
I don't think Prime 4 will be great but at least I don't pretend to be a fan for my master grummz
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>>726283304
That entire blob of text is speculative.
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>>726283851
Those characters dont talk like redditors you disingenuous faggot
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>>726283851
trve metroid stopped at fusion
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>>726312880
They're constantly saving your ass in the tutorial section on the ship and Federation planet, Rundas does it at least twice.
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>>726316865
Nothing after the first game is Metroid.
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>>726318845
What is "redditor talk"?
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>>726318204
>imagine being such a newfag he does not know grumm just literally and provably copies /v/ threads for his talking points
Is today your first day on 4chan?
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>>726319649
Seems I struck a nerve with you grifter
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>>726283304
I just wonder who is the jew nepobaby that just HAD to self insert into the game.
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>>726319839
>badmouthing him and pointing out how he's a hack who steals from /v/
>"you love him, you stan him, you're grifting for him"
?
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>>726288967
you don't need three hours to play through the tutorial world
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>>726320248
Definitely struck a nerve
Sad grifter
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>>726320390
Are you from some kind of opposite dimension, or do you just not know what words mean?
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>>726319528
based
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>>726319362
Yes, the tutorial segment. Then they go on to become bosses. It isn't even remotely the same and I'm sick of you fucking faggots pretending that it is while having the gall to call anyone else a tourist.
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>>726321134
Man you're upset huh grifter
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>>726283304
Why are incel gamers scared of dialogue in games? Is it because they don't talk to anyone in real life?
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>>726283851
>heh, what about this old game that did something similar, but much more tastefully, and was considered controversial for it, even at the time? Didn't think of that, didya Chud?
What do they pay you, Jeet? I'll double it.
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>>726321549
Metroid doesn't need any dialogue or talking, it's about you being alone in a dark hostile place.
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>>726292794
literally the only voices in Prime 1 come from your own suit, and a disembodied voice-over
>heh, well you said "silence", which means...
Shut the fuck up. You know what people mean.
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>>726283851
>reposting same bullshit from a previous thread after being btfo
(You)s aren't an actual currency, anon
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>people being like "but Adam..."
Did you miss the part where Adam is localised to particular rooms where you can talk to him, and he doesn't literally follow you through the game?
>no, I just like ignoring context, because I'm a disingenuous retard
I know, man.
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>>726322448
I mean, as far as we can tell the Feds are literally localized to specific rooms and circumstances like the escort shit.
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>>726322665
This faggot follows you around the entire first hour or so of the game and makes it so he can contact you any time he wants, the rest of them are likely going to be the same which means most of the game will be listening to and saving these tranny redditors.
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>>726322665
>if you ignore the escort quests and the radio comms and the late game team up segments they stay in one room too!
Fucking moron, kill yourself.
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>>726321549
>incel gamers
Did you miss the part where the game journos also hate him?
This is one thing both sides agree its shit.
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is it David Jaffe's fault?
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>oh dead oh dear
>cooked
you aren't ironic you are just a faggot also kys
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>>726323115
When did we start liking and caring about what game journos and ecelebs think?
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>>726283851
>you haven't played Prime 3 in a decade
I haven't played it since I beat it the first time no, it clearly wasn't as good or atmospheric as 1/2 and as such everyone talks about 1/2 more because they were better for the reasons people liked.

Dribbling retard no one gives a fuck about Federation Force, Hunters was a cool little game though.
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>>726323115
When IGN is shitting on your game, you know you fucked up
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>>726323715
the actual campaign for Hunters is ass, tbf. The entire value of that game is it was a solid multiplayer FPS for the DS.
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>>726319605
"So.... win?"
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>>726319605
>"Erm hes right behind me isnt he?"
>"I just blew that shit up with my frickin mind!"
>"Its about to get really nerdy in here!"

Etc.
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>>726323634
>No, you can't dislike thing because...le bad Vidya game journos dislike thing too!
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>>726319605
>"erm, did anon really just posted that? I like, like i literally cant"
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>>726324178
>>726324229
>>726324504
Things that have existed long before reddit did are reddit?
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>>726289310
>Ashley Graham RE4
Yeah, this is a good example. After several RE games, it was okay for Capcom to break the mold a little for RE4. I think that old school RE fans would agree that, the game was at it's peek when she was gone, which is most of the game. It's what we knew. But it's possible that newer fans, who started with RE4 (due to it's popularity) really liked having Ashley around. Not that she made the game bad - Ashley is alright.

A similar thing happens w/Cortana in Halo 2 and 3, when she leaves for quite some time. It changes the tone of the game. It's not better or worse in Halo's case, just different.
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>>726325345
Disregard previous posts. Imagine a ragebait reply using "tendies" and "nintenslop" in the post.
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>>726326562
T-U-R-T-L-E Power
T-U-R-T-L-E Power
T-U-R-T-L-E Power
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
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Should have made Prime hunters 2
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>>726319528
Yeah because it's SUPER Metroid



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