Gamers, are you okay?
>>726367643>broke people aren't buying toysshocker
I already have like 400 games on steam and have only finished like 25 tops. Why do I need to buy any of the slop coming out these days?
>>726367643I bought a couple games this year. I am the 4%.
>>726367643>article talking about americans>they picked the ugliest mutt troll ever holding a switch for a picWhy do journalist always do this? Where did they even find that disgusting creature?
>>726367643I mean how many times can COD and FIFA come out in a year?
>>726367995He is one of the main characters from Stranger Things
>>726367643Honestly the problem is we're spoiled by the past. There are at least 100 single player games from before 2010 that I would love to replay at any given moment and since that's like 10x as much free gaming time as I have there's literally no reason for me to buy anything new unless it's absolutely mind blowing and since most things now suck dick there's no point.
>>726368158the issue is that all these companies are fucking retarded and they made thought the covid era of people spending all day inside was going to last forever
us gamers amirite?
>>726368257 (me)>they made projections* thinking*I'm too tired to be posting here
i do programming as a hobby, it's basically a puzzle game
>>726367643You voted for this.
>>726368509And I'll do it again.
>>726367643>AAA game dev cycles now take 5+ years>multiplayer slop can sustain itself for decades off of microtransactionsI don't think it's gamers' fault
>buy shit propaganda or dei hired trashnah, no good games
>>726367643being called any possible slur or combination of slurs feels more dignified than being called a “gamer”
i dont have fucking money, dude.
>>726367643but I did get some recently released gaems.
When they say 'video game sales are fueled by 4% of players' do they mean that gacha whales are spending 20 times what I do per month despite the fact that I buy more games than they do?
Americans are low-key kinda poor.
>>726367643That's not all i'm not doing
>>726368641To counterpoint this>>726368562I do spend 1k monthly on gacha uwu
I bought POE2 and Nightreign this year but now I am replaying Alan Wake.I will only spend money on games that are worth my time.
>>726367643What gamers, especially NA, are spending money on is FOTM and streamer bait garbage, live service trash and sports games. They download the game for free, spend 10 or 15 bucks on ingame currencies and move on to a 14.99 or 19.99 game that they play for a couple hours until the next FOTM game comes out. And they have been repeating that cycle for 3 or 4 years now. That is the audience investors are chasing because they don't spend full price on a full game but rather small sums on an online game they drop in a week or two.
>>726367643The only games I've bought in the past 3 years are SMT VV and Hollowbody. I pirated everything else.
>>726367643Fuck man, I'm happy. Don't give a single shit about the AAA industry.Half this shit was the industry's fault anyway.>AAA games are getting worse while getting more expensive>AAA games are getting a LOT worse on PC>games aren't allowed to have "fun"/divisive things in them anymore, like big honkin tits, "unrealistically" attractive people, or gratuitous violence>more and more characters are being made ugly and/or "realistic", lowering appeal>fewer games have that "soul" games need, thanks to reusing engines and shaders on 99% of games, especially AAA ones>console players (and some PC players) just sub to Game Pass or whatever and THAT is their preferred way to play games>more digital consoles, meaning fewer sales worth a damn because the storefronts are ass compared to physical sales, used games, and shit like Black Friday>fewer exclusives to justify buying a console (or two, or three)>more people are just continuing to use their old consoles because fuck spending like $500 on a new system with like 5 games>indie games that cost $5-10 are better and/or more fun than most AAA shit>"friendslop"/FotM games easily shit on AAA games these days, at least for a little while, and they don't have to spend a ton on marketing just to get people to buy them (just handing streamers some keys, mostly), despite being made by like 3 guys shitposting in Unity>DEI/ESG shit keeps making games less-appealing in small/big ways>censorship pushing people away and into shit like coomerbait gacha games>free games continue to exist, pulling players away from the paid stuff>more people gaming on their phones every yearAlso if you're based and redpilled, you'll:>own retro chinkhelds (or just emulate on PC / CFW a DS/3DS) to play older games on instead of paying for AAA shit>play on PC with like 10 years worth of bundles and sales stuffing your library to the brim
>>726367643>It’s unclear if this is being impacted by subscription services such as Game Pass or the continued popularity of free-to-play games such as Roblox and Fortnite. Microtransactions in live-service games, for example, aren’t typically counted as game sales. epic, simply epichow many threads on /v/ are 500 posts discussing an article headline where the actual article containing important context is conveniently edited out?
>>726367643I only buy indie games.
>>726367643I'll buy dispatch for sure on sale just to help them on a couple of accounts Only game I bought the entire year was wreckfest2
>>726367643The only games I bought this year (the stalker games are there because I own the originals, same with little nightmare)
the best game was already made in 1995there was no need to go further
>people whom are almost 40 years old still don't own a home and live with their parents living pay check to pay check.>"Why aren't people consuming my toy products anymore?"dumb ass elites, the upper classes are hilarious.
>>726367643>Count women playing candycrush as gamers to say that women make up fifty percent of gamers>MOST GAMERS AREN'T BUYING GAMES!Gee, it's almost like if you include elephants as monkeys suddenly a significant portion of monkeys aren't able to climb trees.Don't get me wrong, people aren't buying games because of financial reasons as well as political ones, but the MASSIVE watering-down of the term gamer will also have an impact on it.Which is hilarious because it means the industry is in the situation it's in because it was trying to cater to a market that they conjured into existence simply to try and make gaming less male.They pandered to a clientele that is only even considered to exist for purely political reasons.It's like painting a door on a brick wall and calling it the fire escape and then wondering why it isn't opening when the building catches fire.
>>726367643Sure I am. I'm just not buying anything until it's several years old, patch and DLC complete, and deeply on sale.
>>726367995>ugliest mutt troll everHow is that inaccurate?
>>726368682>Americans are low-key kinda poor.
>>726367643Everyone is playing old games or doing something else because new games are shit. I guess here's yet more evidence showing that.
>>726367643STOP WOKE GO BROKE
>>726369375>and live with their parents living pay check to pay check.how do you life paycheck to paycheck if you aren't paying rentbuying doordash every meal?
>>726369498They're trying to convince people that games are worth higher and higher prices while what most people are actually willing to pay only goes lower and lowerIt's comical, this industry is for the dogs now, just burn it down and the games that truly must be made will be.
game collector hereim almost 40 now, collected a thousand games. Realize with job i only finish about one game a month. I probably wont be able to get to most. no point in buying more
>>726369653The parents are probably also living paycheck to paycheck.
Maybe games should be about fun again instead of leftist propaganda.Just an idea.
>>726367707Video games have traditionally been recession proof, and people have historically kept up spending on escapism even during rough times. Not anymore.
>>726367643>fuck up economy>why nobody buy gaem :(((also theres almost no reason to buy games that have free to play competitors that offer the same experience if not better
cheap entertainment is now 'functionally free' where it comes with stuff you need to have in order to be capable of functioning in society anyways; a functioning computer and internet.
>>726369824This is the other part, that half of all players under a certain age care about nothing other than Roblox/Fortnite/Minecraft
>>726367643That's a consequence of GaaS, they should accept it's a problem created by themselves.
>ban porn games>people stop buying gameshmmmmm...
>>726369654>Millions of games exist>More games created every year>Most of them are mid or terrible>"Why aren't people buying new games"I feel like saying "oversaturation" is a bit too simple. But it's really not, millions of games exist, who cares about new games at this point? Especially when developers aren't offering any incentives.
>>726367643I am too busy playing fortnite
>>726369815because the recent recessions before what we have now haven't been as badwe're finally starting the depression we've been limping away from since 08
>>726367643>new games require top-end hardware and aren't even very good>emulation more mainstream than ever>because of emulation, new games have to compete with almost the entire history of gaming, available for freeYeah, no surprise sales are down. I wonder how long the market can survive like this.
>>726369375If you live paycheck to paycheck then you're retarded and terrible with moneyBut most of you do shit like smoke, excessive drinking, drugs, buy fast "food" etc. so it's not surprising
>>726370145They can't, gacha already killed PC and console gaming.
>>726370184That would be 29% of all American households by this point.https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-wage-growth-economy-paycheck-to-paycheck-bank-of-america/Watching financial youtube shows like Caleb Hammer is really eye opening about how fucking retarded a lot of normalfags are with money,
>>726368789So why'd you buy those two games?
>>726367643>woke devs begrudgingly having to start designing their games for Chinese peopleLMAO
>>726367643Why? They just keep re-releasing the same games I played 10 years ago on Unreal Engine 5.
>>726370145they can'ttoo much of the industry is running on speculation, taking loans out for new projects against projected earnings of projects that are nearing completion
>>726367643>95% of "gamers" only play f2p mobile gameswhoaaaaaa
>>726370145If you're not working on big prestige title a la GTA/TES/Sony movie game, either your studio is getting dissolved or you're getting funded with recycled soda cans and children's wishes
put game prices back at 60 and see the miracle happen, corpotards
>>726367643Video games are in the late majority phase in an innovation diffusion model. That's why it looks bad despite video games bringing in more money than ever. Most of the noise comes from people who literally can't afford them. Late majority:>They adopt an innovation after the average participant. These individuals approach an innovation with a high degree of skepticism and after the majority of society has adopted the innovation. Late Majority are typically skeptical about an innovation, have below average social status, little financial liquidity, in contact with others in late majority and early majority and little opinion leadership.
>>726370698Oy vey goyim how will the shareholders buy their third rental home if you don't buy Black Ops 7 deluxe edition for 120 dollars?
>>726367643I haven't bought a game brand new for full price in over fifteen years.>4% of players are the whales that keep expanding my libraryThanks, paypiggies!
>>726370439Living paycheck to paycheck is a meaningless self reported stat. It fluctuates all the time.
>>726369912pretty much. evergreen games are at their peak right now so a game has to be really good or have really good momentum behind it to make people go "okay ill drop $70 on this new game instead of sticking with the game i already play the has years worth of content/mods"
>>726370790Don't forget to thank /ourguy/ Tim Sweeney for paying for all those games in advance!
>>726367643too expensive too shit
>>726368158This is the case for every entertainment medium. There's almost half a century of vidya, over a century of film, and millennia of music all now simply one mouse click away.
>>726369815cuz they stopped being escapism you retard.
>>726370830Shut up, valvenigger.
i just boughted a game though. how can this possibly be true!??
>>726367643Maybe it's because the games are full of propagandas nowadays
>>726369815MF pretending that the video game industry has never crashed
>>726367643Live service shit has done major damage to upfront sales and game variety as people stick to one game for 1000 hours instead. Then the remaining non live service games are intentionally trying to be shit for political reasons. It's just an awful situation all around.
>>726367643I have not bought a new game since ToTK and even then I traded in another Zelda gamer for half off.
>>726367643Americans became too poor
>>726367643I wonder why.... how could this happen?
>>726367643Americans have no money these days
>>726371002and expensive too.No one wants to pay $70+ to be lectured how they're part of the patriarchy and oppressors (also please be gay and trans too).
>>726369653>if you aren't paying rentlol
>>726367995He has a genetic condition, cleidocranial dysostosis.
>>726372285Everyone I work with lives paycheck to paycheck. I don't because I come from a wealthy family. They don't know that though. I often wonder how they pull it off.
>>726370145>new games require top-end hardware and aren't even very goodNot really. Have you actually ever looked at the system requirements for a lot of new games? A cheap CPU like the Ryzen 5 1600 and a $200 GPU can open up a LOT of doors, especially if you don't care about 1440p+ and raytracing.>new games have to compete with emulationOh okay, you don't actually know shit then. New games aren't competing with 20-40 year old games, they're competing with games released 10 years ago that have continued to have been updated since then.
>>726372039>modern games just wanna lecture you bro!>pictured: a game that's almost 10 years old
>>726367643>ubisoft funding "studies" to shift blame elsewhere when they're eventually forced to reveal their sales numbers to investors
>>726370145Also people being poorer and childlessThis is why killing the middle class was always retarded, slaves don't buy games, they pirate them
>>726367643US AAA companies make woke instead of games.
>>726369375Elites were always worse than the middle class: worse genes, more stupidity, more inferiority complex. They are also cucks because they have this fantasy of owning brown men as slaves instead of being healthy machos focused on fucking women and provide for their children.A trillonaire kid will never know what it was to go OUTSIDE and play with kids your race/age, and play some matches in mortal kombat or mario kart.Elites are dead inside and they become more retarded and uglier by generation.This is why being so obsessed with MONEY UP as your only goal is retarded.
>>726370184You forget that the vast majority of Americans believe that a basic budgeting strategy such as allowances are financial abuse.
>>726367643It's not just the recession/mounting depression, it's also live service, you nitwits. People are largely defaulting to popular F2P games that are trying to expand more and more now, and these statistics about who's not buying games aren't account for the exorbitantly retarded amounts of microtransaction money still going around.What's the point of buying a game if something like Fortnite or Roblox give people a bunch of different games in one? That's how casuals are genuinely thinking right now.
I feel like a lot of you guys are missing how many normies just play one live service game ad infinitum, as progression systems in every game now make you grind it like a second job. I have friends that won't play anything other than their main game for a couple hours a week because they feel like they're going to fall behind in their main game. It's basically what Phil Spencer said about how they'll never be able to court over Playstation players because everyone built their digital libraries on 8th gen, so they're locked into that platform. Likewise, people are playing 1 game, and buying microtransactions in 1 game.
>>726367643Yeah, I'm doing fine buying and playing actual good games that I can enjoy.New games aren't doing so well, though that's not my problem really.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT? HOW MANY GODDAMN BOTS ARE ON THIS BOARD?
>the majority of western games are some flavor of game shaped leftist propaganda slop with egregious amounts of micro/macrotransaction kikery, and japanese games are being censored/banned by the west (and also full of egregious microtransaction jewery)Gee I wonder why no one is buying
It's because most of gen retard are playing f2p shit like roblox. That's the most popular game. Fucking roblox. And other free games. It can be hard to compete with that. There also hasnt been jack shit released this year other than fucking indie games. Even so, that 4% is millions of profit. Really just a shitty clickbait headline trying to doompost about the industry. At worst, one portion of the industry is making less money (western AAA), but a lot of other devs are making money hand over fist.When Hollow Knight and Deltarune are the two most popular games released this year. Yeah the industry dropped the ball, but that's on them.
>>726373514what is that ugly as sin monstrosity you posted
>>726373570Bots and turdies galore. Welcome to the dying days of 4chan.
>>726369815Demographic have changed. Less white males with less disposable income. Plenty of browns and women but they do not spend money on video games.
>>726373570Ubishit has always also paid for bacterial marketing. Even while their shit company dies they'll pay to annoy us.
>>726367643>Companies build massive studios with thousands of overpaid employees all to make some of the most godawful pozzed shit imaginable>Newer generations have no money and play f2p games and watch streamers in the first place>Older generations have finally gotten tired of AAA slop to the point they stop buying it >Even if someone does want to buy new shit no one wants to spend four digits for a graphics card to run the latest garbage at a buttery smooth 20 fps since optimization is a lost art apparently Maybe if the market made good games that ran on reasonable hardware we wouldn't be having this retarded issue
>>726373570You WILL click and engage with the article peasant.
>>726373943>turdiesAmerican website of course it is filled with third worlders (Americans), that said this shithole won't die
>>726370184Get into an accident or some illness, and whatever saving you have will evaporates overnight
>>726373937Her name's Sybil and she's second worst girl, barely in front of RaftaI just posted her because she's human, and thus thought she'd draw more attention
>>726369815It's still more profitable than movies, TV, and music combined. The headline is an exaggeration. Less retail purchases do not mean less people playing video games. More are playing them than ever, but they're also more accessible than ever. Most of them don't even require a purchase. A lot of the money being made is through microtransactions. Free to play, mobile, they're king these days. But even retail games sell fine. It's just the market as a whole decided they were going to make everything live service slop because they thought there would be more money in that. For some it worked out great. For many they failed miserably. All on them for getting greedy if they failed and forgetting why people even play games.
Consider that only 12 years separate these games:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvli9CXSqP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VekEKqMZiZ4And this came out 12 years ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YfEUVjGq80But if I said it's brand new, you could believe me, it still looks perfectly modern. We've reached the point where tech doesn't seem to be advancing much, new games don't really offer a new experience. So why waste money on them, might as well get older games for much less.
>>726367643>4%>majority of game salesDESPITE
>>726367643shit games + live service slop/gatcha slop + rising cost of living
>>726369336Tranny or future tranny library
>>726367643>shows a nintendie on his autismowidget 9000
A concerning pattern...
>>726367995Because that's literally from an ad for the Nintendo Switch 2 lmao
>>726374810>driver's license going up slightly/o/BROS, WE FUCKING WON
>>726374810>video game usage bar going up>porn consumption bar going upHmmm...it's almost as if...people don't give a fuck about anything other than whacking off and playing video games
>>726372693Nigger most modern games are so poorly unoptimized.
>>726374056Trannyschizocore. Go away
Don't worry, once people get their $2000 checks spending will go up.
>>726375016Those games are just not worth playing.
>>726375064Based retard
>>726367643The definition of "gamer" is retarded in that study. As are you for not noticing that on instinct alone.
>>726374871dead cat bounce, walkGODS stepping all over the c/o/pers
>>726367643>America is a third world country where most people are poor>most live paycheck to paycheck>thinking they have money to buy games nowlmao
>>726375208Yes but that's the subject of the whole fucking thread. the guy you responded to was talking about modern games requiring over the top hardware. You absolutely retarded autist
>>726367643>release dogshit upon dogshit for absurd prices>games might become unplayable thanks to always online drm>if it doesn't preform well companies just shittalk the costumers>raise the price for games>also try to milk them with microtranslation with almost equal price of the game>y pepple donesntnt throw monee at us anymoor?
>>726367643Imagine buying games when they're so beyond easy to pirate. Why would I spend 70 dollars on a new release when I could save and buy a carpet or a couch or save for an emergency.
>>726367995He's really not that ugly. I don't get the hyperbole
>>726367643
>>726375302>Want to replace middle class with poors>Wtf why am I selling lessWe were born in retarded times
>>726367643I gave my nephew my PC and he really doesn't play much. Zoomers are kinda normalfags in a weird way. They ALL like anime, video games etc., including their females. But to them it's just a normal form of entertainment, nothing to get too worked up over. So they typically branch out into other activities to find their true "hobbies" and treat anime/games the same as mindlessly browsing instagram or tiktok.
>>726367643my backlog is over 1k games, and they started selling new stuff at the 70 euros price point so i'm just going to wait
>>726367643> why aren’t people engaging in a wholly unproductive hobby at a time of unprecedented uncertainty, unhappiness, unfulfilmentGolly gee, it’s a real head-scratcher, innit
>>726367643>muh economytrannies and shills trying to cover up how dogshit and pozzed video games are now, with not a single appealing point to thementertainment and escapism will always sell, that it doesn't means something is seriously wrong with it. And what that is is glaringly obvious.I used to buy and pirate a lot of games like 10+ years ago, I only do like one or two per year now. It's all rotten shit not even worth a pirate.For fucks sake, I even play GFL2 and Umamusume, fucking g*chas, because there is nothing.
>>726374895Wait was I the normalfag all along?
>>726376121Fucking kek
>>726367643If poor people were smart enough to play Qvake or Envmy Territvry instead of consuming newslop they wouldn't be kinda homeless right now. Could have invested that money and and they went with a downgrade, very deserved imo!
>>726367643Ain't nobody got cash for that
>>726367643>Steam and other storefronts start filtering out no-budget asset flips>Major publishers would throw a tantrum if storefronts started filtering out their UE5 asset flips and they pay off jeet firms to do fake social media marketing anyway, so people just lose interest in major releases>>726369128It's not really important informationNeither of these are healthy for the long term survival of the industry.
>>726369815Normies find tiktok/youtube shorts/instagram reels as an alternative method of escapism which is considerably cheaper...
>>726367643Games have become shit over the past decade.I rather play old games now
>errode "escapism" aspect of escapism hobby>people lose interestwow
>>726367643happy playing my backlog desu
>>726369498based stalker 2 still isn't fixed after a year glad i didn't buy it
>>726367643this has always been the case and that is what the core audience is.this is why companies that try to chase a wider audience who normally don't play games rather than trying to expand their core audience are retarded.
>>726375478Not all modern games are THAT badly optimized.
>>726367643I'd gladly buy games but 90% are filled with dei or ugly women
>>726367643I have decades of older games to play, can get any I don't own yet for virtually nothing.New video games, no matter how much they cost to make nor how much content they have, are not worth paying more than $20.
>>726376680It's still the best way if you only play AAA games.
>>726367643I have just realised the article is "U. S. Gamers", as in United States, and "Us Gamers, amirite?"
>>726367643The only new game I bought was BF6 and I dumped like 100h into it. Genuinely fun game. The rest of your singleplayer lefty-kike trash? No thanks.
>>726367643Health insurance went up this year. Sorry, nobody is buying games anytime soon.
>>726367643The government stole my tax money, stole my healthcare, stole my food assistance, and then slapped giant taxes on shit as prices went up. I don't got any fucking money
>>726367643yeah because games are made by feminist protrster now and full of gay shit. fuck Tripple shit video games
>>726378725don't blame the government for Tripple shit studios making DEI games full of far left propoganda nobody wants
>>726367643That's a lie, I'm buying games, I'm just not buying THEIR games