It’s over>In its earnings call, the company said it has “evolved over the past twenty-five years from a gaming GPU company to now an AI data center infrastructure company.”>Data center revenue hit a record $51 billion for the quarter. Nvidia reported a 66 percent increase from last year, driven by strong demand for AI infrastructure across cloud providers, enterprises, and model developers. The company said it continues to ship high volumes of its Blackwell and Rubin platforms.>Nvidia noted that its data center business now accounts for the clear majority of its revenue and expects AI infrastructure build-outs to continue for multiple years. The company said its pipeline for cloud, enterprise, and sovereign AI projects remains strong heading into 2027.
>>726391470iow gamers are fucked as they focus production on AI rather than gaming.AMD are fucking useless as competition.
>>726391470Why is this news to you OP jensen said this years ago when nvidia first started making p rofit off AI.It's only going to get worse with ram prices going up but the writing on the wall was from a long time ago.
>>726391470Who should Nvidia sell their gaming division to /v/?
>PC gaming will die before consolesgrim
>>726391470why do you niggas even need GPUs for anymore? new games suck balls
>you will own nothing, and be happyjust another step into forcing everyone to use the streaming services
Hopefully this shifts the focus on gameplay instead of pushing graphics. Devs won't be able to count on people having top of the line hardware. Innovate or die. The industry will survive, perhaps even better than before. Who knows, in 20 years we might all be playing on toasters-tier hardware again.
how much longer until this ai trash dies
>>726391708Lmao, AMD is also pivotted to AI. Chink is unironically the only one who van save us now.
>>726391470desu graphics we have today is finedevs should learn to use what they have and not make dumb unoptimised games that look like shit a
>>726393259Nobody is gonna be making GPUs for consoles either, unless they start running AI agents. They'll make AI GPUs.
>>726393668I give it about 10 or 15 decades maybe? Will see. I'm still waiting on computers and the Internet to die. Any day now.
>>726393787AMD will, they are shite for ai
So long, and thanks for all the fish!
>>726393668It's just an instrument like other progtamms
So will GPUs for G (graphics) uses get cheaper again?
>>726393729nah
>latest gpu gen is underwhelming fake frame powered crap>break compability with older versions of physx>"lol gaming isn't making as much money as AI so cya losers!!!"grimReminder most of the money AI makes from a incestous circlejerk where big companies invest into each other
>>726394926Sure, but the AI hype from all sides makes the whole thing too big to fail.
I hope the PS5 is the last generation of consoles, and PCs also stop improving.I like playing games, I also like art, however things like high poly count and real-time raytracing don't contribute to the game or the art aspect.As such there shouldn't be a reason to make new hardware.
>>726391470Yep expectation is that over the next decade every major company is going to be using AI in their development, software, art, customer service. ChatGPT needs GPUs and everyone is not going to rely on them for IP protection reasons so companies are going to be ramping out their own local systems with tons of GPUs. That's before even considering government and military applications of AI.AI needs GPUs and AMD is unserious about it giving Nvidia basically a monopoly on the future. It's like being Microsoft when PCs became big but an even shorter time window. Probably one of the surest sure things in the last several decades.
>>726391470Not news. Nvidia said they were getting out of gaming a while ago.
>>726393332>why do you niggas even need GPUs for anymore? new games suck ballsIf you have anything near a 4090 or similar you can already run everything at top specs.People only buy them now to post pics and brag they have them, has turned into the nerd version of rims for nigs.
>>726395224Like NFT's?
I heard them say they wete only making high end cards from now on. If Intel and AMD make low and mid-tier stuff, that's fine.
>>726395740At least say bitcoin.
>>726391470Nvidia hasn't been a "gaming" company in years.
huh maybe that could be an in for some new blood in the consumer space. when established players leave/neglect the market it someone else could come in. but i guess the field is so advanced, who could even compete? its gonna be years of pain before tho
if gaming hardware stagnates, surely developers will start to optimize their games more?
>>726391470Never have been
>>726391470>ok so the crypto bubble was a bust but look how big this AI bubble is growing!
>>726395853even posted the outdated chart, sorry.
>>726395740Only retards believed in shit like NFTs and metaverse, NFTs were a legit scam and metaverse was based on the idea that the pandemic was going to last forever and everyone was going to be a neet.If you work in the industry you can see that AI is legitimately being used for things and the reality that demand for GPUs is so high that people can buy them from Nvidia, mark them up 4x and still sell out instantly.
>>726395873>
where is the revenue coming in from? just renting out data centers to AI users?hopefully they're aware that they're just selling shovels to gold diggers
>>726395873As long as they stop making stronger hardware, but still make more of what's currently designed for newcomers then yes.
Reminder that he's dumping the max amount of nvidia shares he's allowed to each year and both nvidia and openai have been pre-emptively begging for bailouts.
>>726391470>>726395853Stop buying Nvidia and companies like that. AMD is slightly better because more open source friendly, but might be on the edge of a more open computer. Just wait or buy used. The greatest dissapointment is when we learn just how locked down the PC actually is, and now decades later this might change. Spend this time to play the classics and get your reference points.
>>726396002They sell the hardware. wtf timmy gonna do? Sell it back? Lmao
>>726393668It's already bigger than dotcom bubble, I give it another year or two top.
the AI bubble is going to be 10x worse than 2008
>>726395224Market leader isn't usually the one on top after a bubble bursts.
>>726391470it'sa been over forever newfags
>>726391470the age of streaming games begins..
>>726391708if anything this should have been a sign for them to get better at the gaming segment but they are already complacent with consoles and is also racing for AI
will (((intel))) save us?
>>726396309Short it then pussy
>>726391470>all of the world's computing hardware>trillions of dollars of budget>all to generate a funny realistic video of catBased.
This bubble burst is gonna be fuckin' spectacular.How many CEO suicides will we see in the first week alone?
>>726393668Retards like you are hilarious. Might as well ask when the internet fad will die. Fucken idiot
>>726396229I bought a 4090 in 2023 for two reasons. One is that i got lucky and found one for MSRP and the other is that i wanted the most powerful card. As soon as my card starts to struggle i'll be in the market for whatever is the most powerful then and if AMD or even Intel makes that card then that's what i'll buy and if it's nvidia then so be it.
>>726391470Put anon promised me the bubble would pop 2 weeks ago...
>>726396728i just wonder when the pop is actually going to happen, the people who are bankrolling new tech shit are no longer the ones on ground level to see how fruitless its been in terms of returning a profit for the investment but the bubble won't "pop" unless those executives realize its all been for naught
>>726396784LLMs have already hit their usefulness limit and not a single AI company has managed to turn a profit using them
>>7263936682 more weeks
>>726395660ok and what will you do in 5 years when TES6 runs at 10 fps on a 5090?
>>726393370My dad has been a computer engineer since the 80's and I remember him telling me in my teens, "Eventually everyone will have terminals, they won't own consoles, or personal computers. There will be no difference in hardware because everyone will own the same thing and access data via the cloud." Never thought much of it until recently, but it truly does feel like that is where tech is headed.
money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money
>>726395873LMFAOMFAO
>>726391470You had poorfags here flexing their 15 year old specs instead of buying the new thing no wonder they switched to ai kek
>>726396847Don't worry about it. The most important thing is to be aware. It can still be nice to just have one in case you veer out into for example photogrammetry or physics simulation, which can be a useful for a DYI'er/maker. AMD seems to keep engineer staff low to be agile, so if they keep doing that plus open source, they're probably going to be a decade behind, but you never know with all the jewing in the tech space.
>>726397072>>726397138I do appreciate that FUD shills and seething artists exist so I can keep buying more dips you guys are going to make me a multi millionaire
>>726395740Yeah, remember when google and amazon dumped billions into NFTs?
quantum computing > aiar > vr
>>726397072The two billionaires that predicted the 2008 recession and housing crash sold their stocks last month and got out, only reason techbros are still in is to inflate it just enough so they can peace out with a profit and leave others holding the back and the debt on all the unused data centers and the trials for them polluting neighbourhoods once there money isn't greasing senators palms to ignore them anymore.This shit is going to destroy the economy and the techbros know the day of the ropes coming, thats why zuckerburg bought a hawaaiin island and built a fortress bunker on it with pmc guards
>>726397153>2026 game running at 360p 12FPSWE'RE GOING BACK BOYS! BACK TO SNES ERA!
>>726395224Yeah, I'm sure a gigantic economic circlejerk fueled by OpenAI writing checks it can't cash with zero value created from it all won't ever crash and burn
>>726393668None of the retard investors that pour trillions in the black box machine and hallucinations about AGI and AI Jesus actually know how limited this technology is.They can keep borrowing for maybe two years more.
>>726396728>This bubble burst is gonna be fuckin' spectacular.Not going to happen. AI is very useful instrument for all areas of life + even govements are funding it now.It's the next step of techological progress
>>726397334AI will use quantum computing to improve itself
>>726397316uh huhhttps://mlq.ai/media/quarterly_decks/v0.1_State_of_AI_in_Business_2025_Report.pdf>95% of enterprise AI projects have yet to turn a profit
Chinese GPUs will save us, bros. The LiSuan G100 launches around March. Keep hope alive!
>>726397412>once there money isn't greasing senators palms to ignore them anymore.This isn't a small scale scam. This is the big leagues. They're slurping the chode of Trump and the other ghouls around him for a bailout, they'll offer endless surveillance data and a techfascist state in return to be intertwined with the government and too big to fail. But not nationalised, it's the government that will be privatized with these demons owning it all. Only the debt will be shared with the pleb public.
>>726397451Yes, anon. You're so smart. Yes YOU. Two more years.
>>726391470so they wont shit games with their shit slop tech gimmicks and briefcase with money? cool
>>726397430Anon, people are already paying for AI. ChatGPT is one of the top visited websites on the internet. It's a booming business. Unless they're all lying.
I believe this AI stuff is just make believe.nothing is fucking real, it's all BOT with a bunch of IF function. these """"AI"""" can't actually think.
>>726397595>AI is very useful instrument for all areas of life image/video generation is a net negativetext generation makes shit up and hallucinatesspecialized AI for, say, medical research already existed and is completely independent from the current AI crazyit provides no value whatsoever
>>726397426hell yeah brother
>>726397153What technological or graphics enhancements do you expect that are going to demand that kind of hardware.They've already hit the upper limits of effort they are willing to put into models and textures.ES6 will look like something between Skyrim and Starfield.
>>726391708Amd sucks nvidia while nvidia rims oracle, then oracle licks AMD's balls.
>>726397760>Unless they're all lyingAs we know, this has never happened beforeEnron? What's that?
>>726391470>Here's how intel can still win.
>>726397072The problem is that we are halfway in "technofeudalism" as they call it, so tech companies have very safe revenue streams coming in, so the creditors trust the companies. People are so incredibly far gone it's hard to see things turning around. You basically have to create societal change to change things around.The best you can hope for is dodging the enshittifcation and getting your local capabilities up.
>>726397836It will look like that but demand 3x more than Slopfield.
>>726397760Despite its popularity chatgpt is still not profitable.
>>726397760>ChatGPT is one of the top visited websites on the internetIt's fucking Indians for god's sake, they're burning trillions to offer this shit for free or for way below cost, it's not profitable. OAI is already begging for the CHIPS actually to be extended to AI slop companies and offer them lending protection because they won't be able to finance their debt soon.
>>726397772If it can't pass the turing test then it ain't AI as far as I'm concerned.
>>726397880>intel
>>726397872>AI is useless and if it isn't they aren't actually making any money and if they do it is a lie
>>726395224the complete opposite. the downfall will be catastrophic BECAUSE of all the hype from all sides. only 3rd world countries too poor to develop/buy AI will be relatively safe from the impact.
>>726391470Sucks to be poor lol
>>726397987>AI is uselesscorrect>they aren't actually making any moneycorrect, by their own admissionglad we agree
>>726397836improvements?
>>726397987YesSome are, but nowhere enough to justify the massive investment into itThe ai bubble is propped up by a lie yes
>>726397641its a startup! They don't need profit... or even revenue thats higher than loans + electrical costs!
>>726393668Unironically I can see this shit cashing as early as next year. There's already financial signs about investors being spooked. AI itself won't go away though but the fomo retardation from companies is going to get massively scaled back.
>>726393259Goysoles will also be affected because they depend on the same low to midrange gpu chips. This bullshit will fuck over low to mid pc gayming, it will keep high tier pc gaming likely at an even higher price but it will exist. It will completely kill goysoles if all low and mid tier chips are canned
>>726397987Yes. Yes and YesGlad we can come to an understanding. AI is snake oil. It's a scam that crash. and crash HARD
>>726397872Same people will say that AI is not actually used for anything then in another breath screech that all of the content on the internet is now AI generated.
>>726395224If anything it ensures that it will fail because how big of a circle jerking it is.
>>726397949The Turing test is not done rigorous measure, it was literally made up by Alan Turing who was very much a functionalist/computationalist in passing as a thought experiment and was never to be some important thought.>bro what if you could talk to a computer and wouldn't tell the difference This already happens, it still isn't proof of cognition. Philosophy of consciousness goes way deeper than that.
>>726398170AI is not used for anything worthwhile you meanNo, slop spam on facebook to trick old people isn't a worthwhile cause
>>726393576Highly doubt it, but it would be nice.
>>726398252>No, slop spam on facebook to trick old people isn't a worthwhile causeIt is, if you want to win elections.
>>726393691The fuck are you talking about? Chinks are part of the reason GPU prices are so high, especially in the used market. Anything they develop will be AI focused and lets be real they can't do anything for decades anyway. They're still stuck on fab processes generations behind.
What's AI used for anyway?so far it's just slop art generation and google chat bot with reddit as the main source
>>726391470>RTX 50 Super and 60 series basically cancelled >Devs actually have to optimize games for the hardware people already haveWhy is Jensen being so Indophobic?
>>726398301Eventually that voter block is going to die off or be put into hospice, then you'll be left with all the basedlennials and zoomers that can actually identify AI at a glance
>>726398170There's no value in generating slop. Or you'll end up like Meta and the nonsense Zuckerberg was saying in his shill speech to investors.>we need five trillion more dollars to buy all the chips before the other companies, because... We just have to ok? We're building AI Jesus ("AGI"). And when AI Jesus arrives He will bless you with infinite money and fusion energy and shit, 2 more weeks.>What if this AGI thing isn't real? Uhhhhhhh please ignore that 90% of our revenue is ads, we're a metavers- I mean AI company now and uhhhh yeah we'll get like 5% more ad revenue with AI optimization and more AI slop content>Will slightly better ad revenue make up for trillions in speculative investment? Uhhh... AI Jesus! AGI!
>>726391470Jensen still likes games OP, it would be foolish to say that you're a gaming company at this point. He literally took over the entire world in like 2 years.Even top engineers like to wind down with some comfy vidya at the end of a long work day typing prompts in their vibe coding machine you know? It's so grounding and fun to go back to vidya, after contributing to the corpo collective meat grinder.
>>726398336there's models that can be trained to identify cancer cells and growths in photos of tissueof course, these are not the ones that get billions in funding or hype
>>726398384>you'll be left with all the basedlennials and zoomers that can actually identify AI at a glance>that can actually identify AI at a glanceHaha...No, they're even more victim to social media gaslighting.
>>726398336cheating in education making degrees even more worthless mostly
>>726397880With nvidia pulling out intel is just given a large market for free they just have to not fuck it up.
>>726393332>muh new games are badI had a blast with Cronos New Dawn, Expedition 33, Silent Hill 2 Remake, Lies of P Overture, Black Myth Wukong, Wuchang Fallen FeathersAnd in fact they are all better than any game released in the past
>>726398336They replace wagiecucks
>>726398481>intel>not fucking up
>>726396206>Gabe designs console with mid/lower-high tier components>people complaint they won't last long until the buyers will have to upgrade>this happensGaben saw this coming? Did he saw how the industry was going to shift or is he an accomplice
>>726397072There's no popping. These tech companies will be bailed out because it's now an AI cold war with China and is considered a national security risk. The US government has already bought in and a new administration wouldn't change that either.
>>726398414This AGI thing is an unironic cult.If we had killed everyone who had ever posted on LessWrong circa 2012 we would be in a better place as a society today.
>>726398528>replace wagiecucksindians do, not AI
>>726398528So the entire middle class revenue stream?Great plan, who's going to buy these luxury products when everyone is a dirt poor manual laborer or farmer as all office jobs were taken by AI?
>>726398252>No, slop spam on facebook to trick old people isn't a worthwhile causeSame could be said for 99% of media, jobs, and products made today, but somebody is paying for it to the point of keeping our bullshit economy running. The money all spends the same.
>>726397595Most governments were hard investing into the first tech bubble, too. AI that is actually useful (read: machine learning for things like research comparison, deep data scrapes, form recognition, etc) will keep on going as normal. The bubble is all of the chat / image / assistant crap that there are now thousands of and they are all garbage fighting for their share of the money / market.
>>726398631>who's going to buy these luxury products when everyone is a dirt poor manual laborer or farmerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age
>>726396049>gaming $4287 millionsAfter 2 retarded generations gaymers continue to buy Nvidia shit. Well, they deserve what happens to them.
AI is a sham. I don't have an argument to back up my claim, but I just know, it's all fake. nothing about AI is fucking real.
>>726398717>nothing about AI is fucking real.One could say its... artificial
>>726398663>Same could be said for 99% of media, jobs, and products made today,That's completely wrong. Why are techbros so nihilists?
>>726398717>people have been ERPing with mechanical turks this whole time
>>726398717Some things are just obvious and don't need to be broken down. Fire is hot, ai is a scam.
>>726398590back then world powers raced to see who could get to the moon firstnow they spend billions and destroy their own societies and environments to see who can make the most photorealistic video of a cat doing the macarena
i own a 9070XT and i have no issue.Would buy AMD again especially since i am moving to Linux next upgrade
>>726391470>"Capitalism totally works">"Competition incentivizes lower prices">"paying for products is the same as voting with my wallet and incentivizes innovation">Pays for GPUs>As company grows, it starts buying every other GPU maker>Prices rise for seemingly no reason>Keep paying for GPUs>Another consumer nigger starts buying GPUs to mine fake money, price increases again>Keep paying for GPUs>Suddenly both GPU companies decide to stop making GPUs and make servers instead, or resell land, or become bankers or whatever>GPUs stop existingWow. How could this happen?
>>726398717>algorithms, statistics and probability isn't realdumbest thing i've read all day
Profitable and beneficial to society services deserving of multi trillion dollar debt such as>cheating on your homework>ugly and hanky visual porn>watered down and repetitive text roleplay porn>boomer Facebook slop>mass ragebaiting, astroturfing, and social media campaigns>disgustingly ugly clipart I feel bad for the few researchers that work on the data analysis scientific fields that benefit from machine learning tools.But I don't feel bad for those that benefit from the other application that isn't generative slop (mass surveillance)
>>726391470Sony is the true gamer company anyway
>>726398414>There's no value in generating slop.Of course there is that is the main thing consoomer consume.AGI would massively boost the profits but is not at all necessary, even if AI does not improve at all from today it still has enough application for mass surveillance, coding, shilling, art, translation, etc. that it is going to continue to be adopted for more things at more companies over the next decade.Replace one indian call center and it is already massive savings and probably will speak better english and fuck up less often.
>>726398587No he saw that around 70% of people sending their steam hardware survey are on a machine comparable to the shitboxIf you own a 5070+9800X3D 32GB RAM you are literal in the 1% of pc gamers
>>726391470>AMD finally won
>>726391470somehow they have yet to explain what AI actually does, benefically
>>726398414>>726398592Forging AGI will in fact be the most momentous landmark in all of human history, but the funny thing is that LLMs are not going to end in AGI and no amount of chips for video generation is going to lead to AGI either.It is inevitable and it is virtuous, and if you want to call it a cult, whatever. But these companies are nothing but false prophets even for that cult.
>>726393668never, india won
I'm doubtful it's mature enough of a technology to wipe out millions of jobs in the next few years though. Even driving which should be simple seems to have too many niche situations which require human intervention.I'm also pretty confident that AI companies are bullshitting to the max about the capability of their AI.
>>726398978AI is a marketing term for some shit running in circles to output data. It can't think, it can't decide, it can't even recognize patterns such as the emotional state from people because that only comes from experiencing life as we do. A machine will never be a baby, just a machine. A parrot is smarter than AI.
>>726399190you see, it makes shitty low quality art and facilitates scams
>>726393668never. it would collapse the economy. see >>726397205
>>726396784Internet changed my life. I only sometimes use chatgpt. It’s nowhere near as big.
>>726393668until every realizes uncle ted was right
>>726391470>Make colossal data center for AI 'as a service'>AI bubble pops, the 'AI as a service' model dies forever in favor of custom made locally ran models>Price of GPUs plummets through the floor as the market is flooded with used ones from closed data centersGaymers win.
>>726398982I hear you brother, bring back black & white TV and wood block print!
>>726398982Don't forget clickbait economy dynamizer
>>726395224>the housing market is gangbusters right now! everybody is making money! it's too big to fail!
>>726399264You're a retard who doesn't know even the most basic information about LLMs. They literally function via path recognition.If you get asked what is 2+2 you don't make a conscious decision to figure that shit out by hand. You just know from past experience that it's a 100% chance to be 4, so you answer 4. LLMs do the same like of thinking but applied to literally everything.
>>726391470>buy this 2500 $ nvidia video card, you need to run games that are unoptimized because nvidia bribed dev studios to not optimize their games >(but is not like sukh deep was able to optimize the game anyway)na I'll pass
>>726391470Man it must feel good to be a shovel seller.
>>726399153I'm still on a 5800x3d, I saw the price of AM5 parts in 2023 and noped the fuck out.
>>726399310Datacenters don't use gamer hardware....
>Retards only figured it nowWhen the last budget GPU was the 1030, it was written all over your chest
>>726391470not surprising they made their intentions pretty clear with the 5000 series
>>726399412You only fail if you're a retard who sells the bottom during some kind of media induced panic that lasts a few months at most.
i'm still using a 960 and all the games i want to play still run finefeels good not to waste money on slop outsourced to SEA
AI shit is fucking incredible for tech support. It solved my networking issues in 5 minutes.
>>726399490>it's impossible to do maths unless you've memorized the answer alreadylmao even
>>726395224Nothing is too big to fail, the burden always just gets shifted elsewhere. Can't keep the charade going forever
>>726395873LolLmao
I fucking hate anything "smart" or "AI" useless bloated garbageI just want simple tools that do stuff normally
>>726399656it's an example retard
>>726399641If I was profiting on AI I'd get out literally RIGHT NOW if I was you
>>726393259consoles have been dead for more than 15 yearsgetting 1 game worth playing every 5 years is not different than pc nowdays. we are all fucked
>>726399310Server GPUs are not for private gaming use. They run in a completely different OS for starters, they're made for huge motherboards with multiple cpus, I don't really know what nvidia actually builds though.
>>726391470>Oh, just get a PC>Consoles are bad, b-because.>Just use AMDExplain to me how PC's are better again? Games work, games don't need mods to work, sell most on console. Your retarded 240+ framerate is a total joke of an argument.
>>726399589Nigga none of this shit is gaymer hardware. You don't need 32gb of vram to run unreal slop, you need a fast SSD for the datastreaming. 100% of nvidias high end gaymer cards are just AI cards.
>>726399704>I hate this new fangled automobile>I prefer my horse drawn carriage
There is no value creation happening in AI. Its literally lighting money on fire at an insane rate.Aside from that, the premise of AI adoption is BAD for the economy because if it is successful it would mean mass unemployment. We live in a CONSUMER economy and that CONSUMER needs MONEY to BUY SHIT. Even moderate pullbacks in consumer spending trigger a recession, what do you think happens when 10s of millions of white collar workers end up out on their asses? Political stability?
Nvidia is the only company in this shitshow speculative slopbubble that actually sells a product, they sell shovels.Problem is, their stock price is based on promises of future sales because AI and tech companies have placed orders for more GPUs and more scaling and more data centers and more garbage stretching years ahead, and they're full of debt up to their neck.If those companies don't survive to make their sales, their speculative pumping would also deflate significantly. But at least they're selling something real and profitable and aren't indebted.
>>726391470Good. As retarded as AI is, maybe the AAA industry will die out and we can finally end this abominable shitshow.
>>726391708>iow gamers are fucked as they focus production on AI rather than gaming.Or maybe devs will turn back to optimize their shit
who's gonna make gpu's for videogames now? intel?
>>726393668It all hangs on Kurzweil. If 2029 is the year, then it will never go away.
>>726399816Anon, the capital holders were sold on the promise of building AI God. Those tech CEOs sold them the promise of literally building Skynet and giving them the keys to have absolute power. It won't happen, but that's what they want, they don't give a shit about the consumer.
>>726399806early automobiles were actual dogshit that caused a ton of accidents and deaths, and were only spared from being outlawed by a massive lobbying campaign
>>726399886Nvidia. we're going to use AI's sloppy seconds
>>726393332gps die
>>726397991America helpfully shares all of it's inflation with the rest of the world as the reserve currency. It's why the whole world has gone to shit since they printed 80% of all dollars during the plandemic.
>>726399769>are bad becausebecause they removed all the good things consoles got over pc 25 years agofucking dumb underage
>>726399816>what do you think happens when 10s of millions of white collar workers end up out on their asses?construction site, NOW!
>>726399769I like mods.
>>726399806>This pure gold toilet is 100% better than my regular ceramic toilet
>>726399836I thought all of nvidias revenue was from 4 companies?
>>726398126>GoysolesNo one's interested in your antisemitic foot fetish
So the>I'll wait for the next GPU tierera is over. No more doubtfagging, series 5000 is THE tier.
>>726400107A lot of their NEW datacenter hardware revenue for the past few years has been from a few AI companies, yes. But they still make products people want. If those companies go tits up Nvidia's meme evaluation will fall but they still got that bag and can go back to making hardware people actually want to buy.
>>726398336like you mentioned, a toy for bored people to make "art" and talk with. but also:normalizing cheating during every single stage of the education systemdevaluing education, even higher learning, even furtherenabling job cutsenabling further job replacement by third world slave labor by outsourcing anything that requires thinking or problem solving to the AIreducing the quality of customer service
>>726397426SNES games usually ran at 60 fps though lole
>>726395873stop buying AAA trash and you will never have this problemThere's also already more good games than you'll be able to finish in the rest of your lifetime
>>726393668As long as it takes for people to get fed up with it.
>>726399886Both intel and amd will fill the hole left by nvidia. Nobody will really notice any difference at the end of the day.
>>726396728the government will just hire Larry Fink again to bail everyone out and the US citizens will be paying for it
>AMD says they are no longer in the low and mid range GPU market>Nvidia does this days laterIt's ogre lmao
>>726398976>Wow. How could this happen?You should see how well capitalism was working before and after the Stock Exchange was moved from the England to the USA
PCkeks BTFO once again
>>726391470They've been doing this for years. When official website slogan changed to "World Leader in artificial Intelligence Computing", it was the beginning of the end, it was clear they didn't want to be seen as a gaming video card company anymore.
>>726396784
>>726400260UE5 has made non-triples just as bad if not worse. Look at STALKER or E33. Run like shit and look like horrible blurry ghosty shit.
>>726400225I doubt microsoft or amazon will go tits up any time soon.
>>726391470AMD WON
>>726397692We already saw this with the dotcom bubble. The technology is sound but the retarded investors are making irrational investments
>>726396784it's been three years and not a single good thing happened thanks to AI
I just want this fucking AI bubble to bust already.I don't care about prices for PC components that much since I only play video games with low system requeriments or emulate old games.But holy shit WHY THE FUCK DID YOU INCREASE MY ELECTRICITY BILLS?Why are you hogging all the fucking power??I want this model to become unsustainable already.
>>726400528>>726400380
>>726391470Good riddance.
>>726393668this shit is literally already nearing its limit but I doubt it goes anywhere for at least another year or two, the american government will probably prop it up for at least that long so if the next election is a lost cause they can immediately tank everything as a fuck you on the way out
>>726398494All of those had 10 year old graphics and needed fake rames to run.
>>726393668One more year or two. These companies are all just burning money like complete retards.
>>726397153>TES6who cares? move on faggot
>>726399816>what do you think happens when 10s of millions of white collar workers end up out on their asses? Political stability?>force control by using children as a excuse (not niggers invading every country and not adapting)>cause world war 3>white vs muslins/niggers>reduce world population heavily>reduce "climate change" lies>workforce is reduced thanks to ww3>jews control whatever is left of humanityenjoy the next 10 years
>>726393729Fpbp
>>726393668when it fails to multiply their earnings as they expected and they in turn follow the next scam meme
>>726393668It's not
>>726393332Path of Exile 1 and 2 is why that game still tanks FPS rates
>>726398976>Company makes tons of deals with the government and receives tax payer money. >IP law says company owns rights to this and that and that forever. >Things have to be produced in specific ways with specific regulations that company dictates>If anybody tries to go against any of this they will be thrown in in a cage by the cops.Definitely the failure of free market capitalism.
ai can't do shit that 6 year old can do (beat pokemon) or shit people with 60 iq can do (drive a car)
>>726400380Intel arc and maybe some Chinese brand may fill the entry to mid range market. Bear in mind these companies make decisions thinking a few years into the future and it’s clear there’s some companies interested in entering the market
>>726391470Gonna be real funny when that bubble pops>AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE GAMERS SAVE US
>>726393668Between the endless resource sinks that they are, the electricity they consume, the fact that AI is something that wastes a fuck load of money but isn't a product that can be sold to anyone and it's all just held together by the richest companies in the world trading the same billions between each other?I can't imagine it lasting many years. When the bill has to be paid the entire card house collapses.
>>726391470The AI bubble will burst aaany day now... right...?
>>726400567>I want this model to become unsustainable already.It is, but big money...
>>726401187>>726401331>hit record earnings yesterday>erm its going to pop in 2 more weeks trust the plan chuds
>>726401331Same time as Half Life 3's release coincidentally
>>726401187And they will.G*mers are notorious shitslop enjoyers, only marginally higher on the evolutionary ladder than Mahvel capeshit fans.
>>726401378oh yeah? post them
>I have five Blackwells.
>>726401378Nvidia actually sells a product to those nothingburger companies, it's expected they make revenue while the others burn money.When will OAI/Meta AI/XAI/Google/Microjew's AI departments be profitable? And not just selling surveillance data to the US government.We need more AI browsers?
>>726399816Not the elites' problem. certainly not the leaders who only care about the 4-8 (depending on country) years they're allowed to be in charge. Why the fuck plant a tree if you won't be alive to eat its fruits? Long-term plans are for suckers.You can starve as far as they care. Don't bother complaining, rioting, or protesting in any way either either, the desperate third worlders are willing to do the work you aren't even if they get paid in peanuts, keeping any the standard of living you might have nice and low. Let them share doordash accounts, let 50 of them share the same apartment, let them create and operate a parallel economy build on human trafficking, drugs and slavery. And most important, trust it'll only be the next guy's problem.
>>726401676>We need more AI browsers?can i get one that isn't shit at least?
>>726399816>Even moderate pullbacks in consumer spending trigger a recession, what do you think happens when 10s of millions of white collar workers end up out on their asses? Political stabilityPeople can do other shit, this happens every few decades when there is a major new technology. Have to learn some new things, too bad, none of you cried about blue collar workers getting the boot. Why would I care about you.A large portion of our problems and degrading society is due to your commie logic of building a world based on bullshit we pretend is useful rather than actual production and value. Too many bullshit jobs that involve writing 2 emails a day this is a good way of weeding them out and moving them toward something productive.
>>726391470yea no shitthe majority of their revenue has been from data centers for years now
>>726393332i need skyrim to run at 8k 120fps with ultra detailed 8k textures on even the smallest objects and i don't care how many oceans are drained or rain forests burned down to get me there.
>>726393259>Consoles don't work on CPUs or GPUs, they work on hopes and dreams.retard
>>726391470Stop making games for UE5 now!!Make games of factorio quality with 2d sprites!!Gamers will not be able to afford a new graphics card when their current one dies!
>>726401008PoEs tank because of CPU strains caused by too many things happening on the screen at once, GPU won't help much with that.
>>726391470This is the hour of the APU.
>>726391470>investing even more in the AI bubbleCan't wait for cheap ass graphics cards to come back in the next 3 to 4 years.
>>726391470He has been saying this for a while now but this chink keep releasing gaming cards. Why dont this gaslighting faggot just fuck off from gaming then? He's full of shit, that's why. I hate him. There's nothing more I want to see than his AI empire crumble under the weight of his own lies.
>>726401923the fact that a 9800x3d cant stop that from tanking is wild to me
>>726391470good, nvidia has been the literal plague on pc gaming that has been killing it off with its fake and gay ass rtx and fake frame generation upscaling niggardry shit, fuck off to the ai bubble and ack yourself on that hill, you fucking miserable niggers
>>726401691There is a reason they seethed so hard at the trucker protest in soviet canuckistan. Complaining and complaining loudly is exactly what everyone should do.
>>726401008>buying new gpus to play decade old gamesretard
>>726402008Its just the maps being WIP. The campaign almost never tanks but as soon as you hit a juiced map dynamic resolution goes 240p. This especially happens in PoE 2.
>>726401923poe's tank because ggg can't optimized for shit
>>726402000>He has been saying this for a while now but this chink keep releasing gaming cards. Why dont this gaslighting faggot just fuck off from gaming then?Because this AI slop bubble is based 100% on narrative and memes. It's a meme and vibe based economy now. Same way every company must publicly say very loudly that they're "AI First" meanwhile their business is importing walnuts from Azerbaijan. Old retarded boomer investors with money, young tech-cultists raised on effective altruism and reddit, and hordes of scammer Indians that dream of an AI slop patreon and a green card, all don't understand this technology but are easily steered by those memes.
>>726400715Even worse, they seem like they're wasting tonnes of money on paper.Whats really happening is they're passing money back and forth between each other or investing in each other with imaginary money they intend to pay off later or whatever. They're basically inflating the shit out of their own stock prices with circular investingNvidia promises to "invest" into an AI company for 10 gorillion dollars, but its actually just "10 gorillion dollars worth of GPUs" and the AI company paid for it with 10 gorillion dollars worth of AI tokens or some shit. Not only is it a bubble, its a fake bubble propped up with imaginary earnings and fake money that never existed. The american economy is being completely propped up by a heavily subsidized shell game where these companies just keep shuffling the same imaginary money around in circles, except investors lack object permanence so they can keep lifting the shells and showing off the same money, but people think its new money every single time.
>should we fund fusion power?>it would mean unlimited power and unlock so many possibilities>fusion? isn't that nuclear? yikes, not happening>should we fund ai?>it would mean unlimited slop and unlock so many brainrot possibilities>fuck yeah let's do it
>>726402083yeah you show me a rig not tanking below 60fps on a juiced t17 deli map you faggot
>>726402083what i'm supposed to buy if my 15 years old gpu doesn't work anymore?a car?
>>726402210>AI slop bubble is based 100%just two more weeks right
>>726393668It won't die, AI is here to stay and it's going to change a lot of things that we know today. I'm tired of seeing uneducated people saying AI is a bubble or how it is going to vanish after a while. It won't it will change what we know and how we do things. that is a fact.
>>726402297>a lot of things>change what we know and how we do things>uneducated peoplenigga shut your mouth
>>726399816wdym? we've known for years the global elites have been working on carbon reduction.you're surprised to just now figure out the carbon that's going to be reduced is YOU?
>>726401845hopes and dreams are all poorfags can afford
>>726402246You forgot that they're letting AI companies create their own private nuclear power plants to power the data centers
>>726402401you are on 4chanyou are also poorfag
>>726393668I like the idea that the internet is going to become a dead wasteland where AI bots create AI content for AI Bots, the cycle repeats endlessly that people stop using the internet because its no longer all that useful.Then as a whole humanity is just wasting all this electricity and resources keeping the internet going so AI can make content for AI.
>>726402437On paper. They aren't building shit, just sucking up the grid and fucking over regular people because the money burning abominable corporation can outbid them for electricity. Free market at work.At best Westinghouse will reactivate some mothballed reactors, actually building new ones takes decades. It's all imaginary bullshit to write down in their reports to keep the gravy train running.
>>726402246Bruh, fusion gets funded with insane amounts of money.
>>726402437so? the work needs more nuclear power. better nuclear than more bird-killing wind plants or fields of solar panels that don't even work half the day. don't even get me started on oil.
>>726402437that's still old fission, which is okayi just wish fusion power would get some attention soon
stop talking about aiwhat would realistically happen to the game industry?
>>726397595ai is very useful instrument for techological progressHello saar
>>726402476how do you do, fellow poorfag?
>>726402234
China will save us. Taiwan is nothing but greedy AI grifters, Novidia and AMD are both just slop scammers now.
>>726402548>nuclearfag trying not to shit on renewables challenge Come the fuck on man. They all have their purpose and solar is cheap as shit in many places.
>>726402437> PowerplantGPT, all these readouts are off the charts, isn’t this kind of dangerous?>Brilliant observation! The readouts in fact point to an imminent meltdown. Would you like me to come up with a quick action plan to see if there’s anything left to do but run? It takes upwards to 10 years to build a nuclear powerplant. And the value proposition of AI is still in the “promises” phase. Once the bubble pops we will get a real sense of how much power will be “actually” needed.
good or bad time to upgrade from my 1080ti rig?
>>726402650I'm moving to China so I can help invade Taiwan for gamers.
>>726402571>what would realistically happen to the game industry?AAA industry dies, like its already doing, and the hyper fixation on GRAFIX goes away. Nothing of value is lost, dev cycles stop being 15 years long and budgets stop being 9 digits long
You don't need better GPUS because 8GB VRAM is good enough for most non videogame task.Even blender runs fine on igpu now.For videogames mid range GPUs are enough for most indie games, and /v/ always claim that top AAA games are shit, so who cares.for AI and other meme GPU use is much cheaper to pay for cloud gpus.
>>726400715They're all operating on the idea that AGI will magically produce infinite money tomorrow so the massive amounts of debt and destruction they've created today don't matter. They're IRL Deus Ex villains but completely incompetent.
>>726402571in a good timeline games would become even better with an ai boostin a worse timeline games will become slop and filled even more with cosmetics trash
>>726402571take a look at the amount of indie shovelware garbage being uploaded to steam every single day. now imagine that automated and commodified.
>>726402732lmao im gaming and its using 13 gb vram at the very least in 2160p quality mode
>>726399816Everything you said makes sense.But have you considered Reckless Short term profit and "the consequences are not our problem"?
>>726402753>They're all operating on the idea that AGI will magically produce infinite money tomorrowThis is hilarious until you realize it's true.Those CEOs promised them unlimited power over the people and the keys to AI-God, and they didn't just take that deal immediately, they burn all the money in the world to chase that promise for the fraction of a percent chance that it can come true.How can you be so evil and still breathe?
>>726402626my back hurtsmy feet hurtsits my first free day of the weeki'm tired of jobi'm tired of lifei haven't have sex in 2 yearsi'm going to the gym and i expect to finish jedi survivor later. i'm halfway but i'm not enjoying it
>>726402297>I'm tired of seeing uneducated people saying AI is a bubble or how it is going to vanish after a whileYou don't know what a bubble is.
>>726402732>enough for most indie gamestoo bad 99% of indies aren't worth playing for free
>>726393668it's never been alive, a computer replying to you with search results has been the case for decadeswhat the corporatoins truly do is use stolen personal data, rely on pirated content, invade and erode your privacy, digitalize everything and sell software stack which is tailored to their hardwareit's the biggest bubble ever made in human history because a lot of aspects like electricity and many other factors try to cash in on this AI craze while it's possibleNvidia quitting gaming is a good thing believe or not
>>726393668I mean the technology isn't going anywhere. The absurd amount of money invested in said technology? That's another tale. The bubble is going to burst so hard it's going to take the entire international economy with it. It could trigger a new great depression. There is little to now way AI is going to produce profits. Nobody knows how to make money out of it.
>>726402841>How can you be so evil and still breathe?That's the CEO grindset now. Enrich yourself and shareholders at all costs.
>>726397760>people are already paying for AIAnd it still loses a fucking shitton of money because there's no way to guarantee people don't use more compute cost than whatever subscription tier they paid for
It's so weird because no one but NVIDIA and TSMC (and I guess energy companies) is actually making money from AI.There is no end product. ChatGPT and Grok and Gemini do produce any value to a company while costing a shit ton. There are tons of image generation, chatbot and video generation sites but none of them have a revenue stream that makes any sense for the amount of money poured into it.
These days I've genuinely been thinking about buying some surplus server hardware and seeding Anna's Archive. Pre-AI untainted digital records will be valuable for humanity.
>>726399284You can't feed the monster forever. Something has to give.
>>726391470>thanks retards for being a springboard for our success
>>726403056if i was paying for IA i would use it so much it would outweight my costs
>>726393668AI is here to stay but the money involved around it is 1000% a bubble that will eventually pop. Investors are the harbingers of their own demise.
good because I'm still on a 1080 Ti and never will buy some shitty RTX card ever
>>726402753
>>726403056>>726403249Same, I don't pay for it either but If I did, every month I'd use it to my maximum allowed limit possible.And then there are those retards out there that pay for their subscriptions but keep sitting out there on their tokens.
Feels good not to be into "high-end" gaming.
AI reminds me of when companies pushed VR and Meta as the next THING that would replace buisness meetings, they bought all this expensive hardware and licenses and forced people to meet in meta a few times until people realized its faster to just use regular online conference programs like zoom or google meets.Those headsets they spent billions on are now used by the office worker's children to roleplay amongus
>>7264028321080p is fine tbqh senpai
>>726403402companies aren’t spending a few billions like they did on VR.AI is having them spend trillions
>>726403249>would use it so much it would outweight my costsUse it on what? Use it for what? Are you going to create mediocre schizophrenic images 24/7?
Lossless Scaling won kek
>>726403402>Those headsets they spent billions on are now used by the office worker's children to roleplay amonguswhat's wrong with that?they're still being developed too
>>726399816If AI leads to mass unemployment then China will introduce UBI.Shortly after that, Europe will follow and also introduce UBI.America though, will turn into a hellhole as any mention of UBI will be branded as socialism and they will instead revert to feudalism where the billionaires are kings and the average american is a serf.
>>726391470too bad no one really gives a shit about AIjust another lousy tech gimmick
oh noes! now i cant play... uhhhh......
>>726403402Retards thought covid was going to last forever and nobody would ever leave their house again.But AI isn't based on a bullshit government lockdown.
>>726403520The thing is AI can't replace any job because it's retarded and it hallucinates harder than a LSD addict.
>>726398592Good it's about time we had a tech cult
>>726403402VR was strangled in the crib by Zucc trying to monetize the absolute fuck out of it with his Web 3.0 NFT bullshit.
>>726403627Only hallucinates when you trying doing too much shit at once or feed it bullshit. You can reduce this by wrangling it with context and system prompts.Indians fuck up constantly too so it isn't going to make a difference either way.
>>726393259Are you fucking retarded? People won't suddenly stop playing games, there will always be a demand for gaming gpu, if Niggervidia abandons the market, someone will take the mantle. This is how supply and demand works, you would know that if you weren't from a post-soviet underdeveloped shithole.
>>726393332To run AI locally.
>>726403764>Only hallucinates when you trying doing too much shit at once or feed it bullshit.Or whenever it doesn't know an answer because it wasn't trained to be allowed to be wrong about things.
>>726403764If you have to hire someone to babysit AI 24/7 then AI isn't really saving you on wages now is it?
>>726393668>these replieslmfaoyou luddites
>>726403610I miss Covid.Wish it lasted forever.>b-but people died!Not my problem.
>>726395231Hot take. Its not like we need something better than RDR2 running at 60fps and that came out in 2018.
>muh AI bubbleCOPETrump is going all in on AI and Nvidia is his golden ticket
>>726403896I agree fellow investor! We need to purchase even more tulips! I'm taking my fifth loan this week to invest even more! I sold my house my family and my ass to invest even more!
>>726403887If it is one or two people wrangling an AI that is replacing an entire call center of Indians then it is still saving money.
>>726391470It hasn't been in a while, it was a cripto mining company before
I've probably wasted a fuckton of their money and GPU cycles with erotic roleplay with vidya sluts using corporate LLMs without paying.I will continue to be a burden on their operations.
>>726403993Are you sure? Indians are paid in pennies and literal goyslop.
>>726403984>it's not a bubble because... there's a bailout! We'll nationalize the debt!If Americans had any soul in them they'd have beat those "people" to death in 2008.
>>726403984Trump is a nepobaby completely retarded in economy and every financial advice from him should be ignored.
>>726395873AI is going to handle that now
>>726402297you're a fucking moronAI is here forever because the genie is out of the bottle, what people are talking about is the fact that the amout of money being dumped into gambling on it becoming the ultimate infinite money glitch is completely unsustainable and when it finally explodes the economy will explode with it
Behold the power of AI! The millions invested were totally paid of by saving the couple of hundreds saved on human artists!
>>726402990I would clarify that you can make money off of it, you're just not going to make anywhere near enough to cover what's being spent
>>726404554Man, I can't into grammar today.
>>726399816You don't matter anymore.
>>726391708>AMD are fucking useless as competition.As by designNvidia has an effective monopoly as long as cousins are at the two helms
>>726404024Don't forget to say please and thank you
>>726391470>once consumers won't be able to afford conses or PCs they'll start pushing cloud gaming through these same datacentersGrim. Quite possibly the worst time line.
>>726404841Or the AI bubble will burst crashing GPU prices which would lead to a new golden age for consumers.
>>726396784Some say the internet has died. Easily 90% of responses here could just be bots. Also consider the dotcom bubble.
>>726404195They have Trump in the palm of their hands now. By the time he’s out of office it will be too late
>>726402297>I'm tired of seeing uneducated people saying AI is a bubblegood morning saarwhere is your education from? IIT?
>>726404962All this, and models still censor lewd anime girls.
>>726404962Trump is, and always will be, a businessman first. He's a literal prostitute for corporations, or anyone with money. Oh, and for Bill Clinton too.
So when's the life changing part happening with AI? I can make porn with it, maybe scam some people or maliciously trick people with fake nonsense but how does that translate to trillions in economic activity? At the end of the day nobody but me will care about what I produce becausing everyone else will have the same ability to make what they like too.
>>726404928A crash that big would take most of Nvidia, AMD, and Intel down with it and none of that fancy data center hardware is useful for gaming so mass liquidation wouldn't benefit us either.
>>726404024based and same. i also heard a single chatgpt input wastes the energy equivalent of filling up your gas with car 5 times or something?not my problem anyway. not like i have kids whose future i should be concerned over.
>>726399519Hey, that's a really smart observation. Tell you what - you could really take advantage of all those suckers, and it just so happens, I have a shovel shop I'd be happy to sell you.
In the future the only way you will be able to own a home GPU is if agree to allow it be used to render AI cloud services in its down time.
>>726405151you fucking retard lol
>>726405130I mean, sure. You have to survive the chaos but afterwards someone will pick up the torch and produce new GPUs.
>>726405212it was on the news. i didn't really pay attention. like i said: not my concern
>>726395740No. AI is already being used almost everywhere right now.
>>726404652All this means is american economy is unusually reliant on wealthy spending, and that's an economic risk if there ever was one. A stock market selloff or decline in home values that rattles the confidence of the top 20% and causes them to cut back would have a significant effect on the economy.
>>726405238iGPUs.
>>726405047>first lgbtqia+ president>sucks the dick of major corporations>the left hates himi dont get why this is the case
>>726405451They tried that and it didn't work. Streaming games is a meme.
>>726405471Leftists hate themselves and thus they hate anyone that remind them of themselves.
>>726405130Unless Nvidia is taking leveraged debt against their stock or something they aren't going anywhere even if shit crashes hard.
>>726405118We're in a bizarro situation where the entire corporate world is betting so hard on AI reinventing the corporate landscape in a way that boosts profits that they're going all in before it's even close to turning a profit, or even properly implemented as a technology. The shit is going to hit the collective fan when everyone realizes just how much resources these datacenters are going to swallow up. If this bubble happens to sustain itself long enough (very doubtful, you're already seeing cracks) you're going to see the most hilarious pivot back toward wind, solar, and nuclear power the world has ever seen.For the average person the most impact you're going to see from the implementation of AI in the corporate infrastructure is higher energy and water bills. Also if you're a wagie you might lose your job. But at least the profit margins will be high.
>>726405349The only place it really excels is data processing. As far as replacing human workers the only people really in danger are artists/writers/musicians which gives you slop like Black Ops 7 having a campaign about fighting hallucination zombie flower men that's hated by everyone.
>>726404962I'm sure this won't backfire on Trump at all. He's a genius after all and totally not a pedophile.I'm sorry, this is just too funny. WTF is he even going to sue them for?
>>726400380It's destroying the customer base for games, so it'll either crash the industry or it'll force developers to stop graphics fagging so muchI'm looking forward to it
>>726404410>ultimate infinite money glitch is completely unsustainable and when it finally explodes the economy will explode with itHow is Nvidia stock doubling or tripling infinite money.They went from targeting a recreational hobby to being sole supplier of a technology considered critical to the government and most super corporations.Makes sense their company is worth more GPUs aren't toys anymore.
>>726405613This. Shit is already sold. But maybe they will sit on big factories while the market is oversaturated during the crash. It's a risk.
>>726405742The files will get released and the whole world will see that he's clean.
So what options are there if you want to build a computer?
>>726391470>We are now left with ayymd dogshit foreverIts so fucking over
>can do text rp, image, video, voice locally>bored of all of itfeelsbadman it was a lot of fun for a long time
>>726393332i want to run the old games in 120 fps 1080p per eye stereoscopic 3d (4k) or even higherwhen you use 8x sgssaa the games look like bullshots but its in realtime
>>726405968See >>726400380
>>726405872The files will be released and every mention of his name will be redacted because anything that threatens the autonomy of his presidency would be viewed as a national security risk. He's betting on throwing everyone else to the wolves and hoping that satisfies the mob, but when we get pages upon pages of redacted material people aren't gonna be happy. This isn't just gonna go away.
Where there is demand, there will be supply. If these dumb companies are leaving the gaming gpu market, someone else will fill the hole. It's just human nature.
>>726404115We can't beat God's Chosen people as long as boomers are still alive to suck their dicks.
>>726405471If the left switched gears from framing the GOP as tyranny enablers to celebrating them as gay icons for their relentless Trump cocksucking, they'd sweep the midterms
>>726391470>>726391708>>726393259I regretted being once supportive of AI for even a millisecond.
>>726405980>mod console>finally i can pirate all the games i want>barely play any of them>realize i was happier with more limited options because they felt more meaningful
>>726395873
Why are you retards mad? Games have sucked for a long time now. This is a good thing if it makes the gaming industry crash and burn. Fuck 'em.
>>726403487trillions that they don't have and don't really exist and probably never will
>>726395873They can't. Corporations forgot how to optimize. They fired everyone capable of optimizing.
>>726393668Governments and the corpos that control them are going all in on this. It won't die
>>726405419The global economy is reliant on wealthy spending and historically always has been. The economy has never been "balanced".
>>726406196>Where there is demand, there will be supply. If these dumb companies are leaving the gaming gpu market, someone else will fill the hole. It's just human nature.Not easy to do, everybody knows GPUs are valuable and in massive demand and nobody has managed to do it. AMD was the closest and publicly admitted defeat.Nvidia are basically the water barons in this situation.
>>726391470I just bought my my last gpu and pc for the next 15 years, im not waiting another 10 years for prices to drop. they can fuck themselves in their stupid bubble.
>>726406468But with what money are the massive energy bills being paid with?>>726406510Too big to fail? Like Rome? Like the Titanic? Like Ubisoft?
>>726405118Ai porn is soulless and uncanny. This is actually the worst timeline because real porn of my specific tastes is being drowned out by AI slop. I hope they can teach the AI to filter out AI produced slop in the future.
>>726406235And you’ll get to see it not only upend everything, but also become yet another culture war sticking point on this site for its clash with people in creative occupations
>>726405872>the files in question
>>726393332I use it for AI 90% of the time now. Most games I play are emulated and could run at 5% of my 5090s powerPeople are complaining about Nvidia being a AI company now. But if we're completely honest. 95% of gamers also primarily do AI stuff with their GPU anyway. Everyone I know with a beefy GPU generates their own porn and slop for hours a day. More than gaming for sure.
>>726405742>WTF is he even going to sue them for?being woke. no really. the official statement is that regulation is going to lead to woke AI. they've just completely stopped even pretending to give a fuck already
>>726399661I just think of bailouts paid for by the average joe when I hear "too big to fail"
>>726405118>So when's the life changing part happening with AI?When you lose your job because your position was made redundant by AI, and then you end up in the hospital for whatever reason and a graduate who used AI to do his coursework for him commits a fatal mistake that maims if not outright kills you.
>>726406631See? I don't see his name anywhere. He's clean. Case open and shut.
>>726406834lmao AI can't replace me. AI can't do shit alone.
>>726406594>yet another culture war sticking point on this site for its clash with people in creative occupationsConveniently enough I get to clash with the same leftist commies I already disagreed with on everything for the last 10+ years. Funny how that always works out.
>>726406713>i generate porn with my gpu, therefore everyone else on earth is a porn addict like meNope, The generative capacity of the current gpus isn't even good enough to go beyond shitty images and even they take too long to generate. Its like being an early adopter of raytracing.
>>726405118if a company optimizes their workflow to produce results 50% more efficiently that doesn't mean you do 50% less work, you do even more to capitalize on it. also half your coworkers get fired and you have to take on their workload too.
>>726406713Subhuman filth
>>726391470Thanks for beta testing, PCfags!
Gamers constantly make fun of AI but when you look at what most gamers do with their GPU it's generating coomslop. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to judge?
>>726403520dude most of europe is barely scraping by, do you think countries like italy or portugal have money for UBI? They can barely pay pensions
>>726406546If that was true we'd never have experienced the financial crisis of 2008.I also looked a bit into the initial article, that top 20% appear to be those earning between $130k and $175k per annum. That's not even that much, considering in some places if you make under $100K you're essentially in poverty, like San Francisco, LA, or NYC. And it's expensive for them too when the market constantly pushes cheap 'luxury apartments', cheap looking 'premium' grocery stores.
>>726406939Bro what? I can generate photorealistic videos that are 30 seconds long of everything I can imagine on a 5090 with wan2.2.How do you think you saw the game awards bitch having her arm pits clicked?
>>726405943Intel B580 unironically. Small bugs but great price/performance.If you do not want to build it:NUC or Steam Deck.
>>726393259If anything we're back in the early 2000s era of vidya where GPUs were still unaffordable for the average PC user, operative systems are unreliable and unstable as fuck (Windows 11 is the new 2000/ME to an extent) and consoles were the most accessible approach independent of its graphical prowess compared to other hardware, with the added flavor of live-service games, subscriptions and other boring slop.
>>726406594the clash isn't with people in creative industries its with consumers who want to eat slop vs those who dont. you really think the entire argument against AI slop is the few thousand professional artists on earth? The irony here is the pro AI argument on 4chan is almost exclusively from people who are trying to turn AI porn into a career.
>>726406909silly anon, that's what the 10 indians are for! combined they still cost the company less than your salary :)
>>726400564Wrong.
>>726406235It gets even better, it's an AI tower of babel.
>>726402945Like 99.9% of AAA?
>>726406235The early days of AI Dungeon and voice generation were genuinely fun.
>>726406892Knowing the administration's incompetence, they might actually use black text highlight as their means to cover this stuff up which would be the ultimate hilarious fail.
>>726405968Lol no.You're getting fucked completely by China supreme.
>>726407210SD is still stuck with those shitty models that have zero prompt comprehension. Even the paid ones.
>>726406546If we went back to resource driven economies instead of currency driven economies, these kikes would fold in an instant. That would mean banning usury and renting, which means average normie wouldn't support it
>>726407210yeah I mean coomer stuff is cool but it didn't cure cancer or anything that investors hoped for
>>726403576/thread
>>726407352Which chinese GPUs are there?
>>726404410Yep, it's happy hour at the casino but instead when the house loses, everyone else gets fucked
>>726407352China already produces everything in the world. The USA doesn't produce anything but mental illness.
>>726407210was finding boobs really that difficult before?
>>726407193And the money lost due their fuck ups is gonna be far above what I earn lmao. Cheaper is always more expensive in the end.
>>726395873If Nvidia stops making affordable GPUs, which they already almost have, then gaming will unironically crash because the vast majority of devs have forgone learning how to optimize in favor of just forcing you to get a better card, if that no longer works then guess what happens.
>>726407135>Generating 30 seconds of video with WAN 2.2 on an RTX 5090 will take several minutes, likely between 5 and 10 minutes or more, depending on the settings, frame count, and resolutionpffff, so you wait there for 10 minutes jerking off to the thought of your AI generated 30 second clip that comes out and its a woman turning into an inflatable balloon and so you have to restart the process all while paying out the nose for electricity. Sounds like a satisfying creative experience.this shit is gatcha for coomers until the generative time comes down to a few seconds for video and instant for images.
>>726407178There's no amount of chaos chuds would balk at as the price for the torment of a few thousand artists
>>726407210Totally worth the trillions invested.
>>726407619>while paying out the nose for electricityPlaying a game costs more.
>>726407619i unironically tried genning my niche fetish once and the horrors i saw in the process made me swear off this shit forever
>>726406939>everyone else on earth is a porn addict like me>Its like being an early adopter of raytracing.More like being an early adopter of computers, video games or anime. Normalfags whine and seethe over it now saying only weird nerds use it because they are ignorant and confused by it but in a decade or two will be flooding in saying they always loved it and finding ways to fuck it up.Has happened to every hobby i've ever had. I'm forever doomed to be chased by retards, but i'm going to make sure I make a profit off of their ignorance this time.
>>726407619Yeah, I tried it, but it only produces trash after waiting a long time.
>>726405943Wait for next gen, or maybe even the one after thatSomething mid tier, something that doesnt demands an ATX40 1600watt psu
>>726407665Unironically yes.
>>726407576It's ok, we also replaced customer support with AI so now nobody bothers to files complaints or follow through past the first response!
>>726406939Images take a second to generate on a 5090. 2-3 minutes on a shitty 6GB 1660S.
>>726407464All of themThe key is for the chinks to sell them directly to the public
>>726407619It takes about 1 minute if you update everything and use some driver tricks. It's almost real time if you reduce resolution of the videos.
>>726407576>Cheaper is always more expensive in the end.Slogan i've only ever heard used by impulsive spenders with massive debt.
>>726407928>>726407985Never got that to work, even with a lot of effort.
>>726407712playing a game is more fun that waiting for your computer to shit out a pointless video clip you down want. I also would like to mess with AI but I'm not waiting 10 - 30 minutes to generate a shitty video I have barely any control over, I need the process to be instant so I have the frequency to learn how to control it. After a single gen im already bored and want to do something else.Add on top of this that you have to pay 2-4k for the privilege of beta testing this shitty tech and you might as well just subscribe to some cloud computing service.
>>726408047You did something wrong, then. Download Stability Matrix, then go to /g/'s local diffusion generals.
>>726408138>Stability Matrix,Great another shitty thing that will require downloading gigabytes upon gigabytes of shit, with little promise that it'll actually work.> then go to /g/'s local diffusion generals.They never help.
>the bubble will burst soonlmao i dont think so
>>726408114>he says while wasting his time malding on 4chan
>>726407928images are so hit or miss you have to generate multiple per second and select from the output, its not enough to gen 1 image at a time. When you generate AI shit 95% of the output is unusable dogshit that you immediately discard, this is why the compute has to be quick for it to even be a fun hobby.
itt boomers can't into recent tech at all. kill yourselves
>>726407985yeah im sure you're enjoying those blurry postage stamp videos.
Nice, does this mean that if I invested already before their previous boom a year ago and made some money off that, I'm now rich?
>>726408384>t. bag holder
>>726408418I'm talking 1080p instead of 4k anon. The technology has improved 10 fold over the last 2 months.
>>726408335I messed with genning shit since the first day stable diffusion was released, shitposting with idiots is more fun. It is not an interesting hobby unless you're a porn addict.
>>726408418Why you arguing with ai coomers anyways? they are the lowest hanging fruit in the grand scheme and the only ones truly getting their use of the tech.
>>726407120The rich have economic crises. They're not immune to it. And that's a lot compared to the bottom half of the US earners or the bottom half of global earners. No one earning $100k is living in poverty and if you can afford expensive things, you're definitely not poor. >>726407423 Normalfags have never mattered much in recorded history. Once the normalfag left the hunter/gatherer era of humanity, they entered servitude and have remained there. Sure, they became more educated and skilled over time, but they've always been subservient to the rich/powerful and always will be.
>>726408328no seriously what about this was difficult to find before AI existed? if there's enough training data for AI to make this then there's enough pics exactly like this that you would never finish going through all of them in your lifetime
>>726404737Nvidia has an effective monopoly as long as AMD continues to suck ass the way they've been sucking ass ever since the Fury. They've been a CPU-first company ever since Ryzen, and I'm sure come doomsday, they're perfectly fine with the Radeon brand dying outside of the laptop so long as Intel continues to suck ass and stays #2
>>726408504>The technology has improved 10 fold over the last 2 months.What was the big step? Some new software, algorithm, model?
>>726408338As someone who started on a 1070 this is just wrong. Faster can be kinda convenient but deliberating on your prompting while gens load up is the fun part
>>726408504yes, im sure you're generating real-time photorealistic 1080p videos. thats why every AI generated clip on the internet caps out at a few seconds. If what you were saying was true we'd already have full length indian films all over the internet.
>>726408384what? boomers are the ones slurping up all this AI shit. can't even fucking make a statement at a family dinner without my retarded father taking out his phone and going "chatgpt is this true"? it was already bad enough when he refused to listen to something i had to say in the field i fucking work with because "that wasn't true in my time" but now he's blinding offloading whatever droplets of critical thinking he still had to a fucking algorithm
>>726408740you should slap your daddy
>>726406579>Like Rome?for anyone born during it's 1000 years reign it might as wel have been
>>726408616>says the guy who doesn't know anything about recorded history or humanity
>>726408612because they are destroying basically everything worthwhile in society to satisfy their hunger for erectile dysfunction. Gaming is going to die because hardware prices will shoot to the moon, real art will be replaced by lazy slop, the internet is already fucked. I'm allowed to be pissed at these stupid coomers for ruining shit the same way I hate tendies and gatcha retards for supporting dogshit corporate initiatives and trends.
>>726393729Nah dude, we need to keep pushing graphics even though they were good enough 10 years ago.
>>726408617He made it and it's new. Stop being a weird fuck coping about that.
>>726408704I started on a 1070ti and it was so slow i got bored after a single day. It is not creative in any sense, its shitty gatcha that is disappointing 95% of the time.
>>726409059>He made it
>>726408975you're so fucking deranged just kill yourself
>>726407648"Owning da libs" in the MAGAtard boomer sense, or "owning da trannies" in the 4chud sense, is a catastrophically poisonous ideology, because it's coopted to make those retards support their own demise because their boogeyman is also hurt in the crossfire.
>>726408616They matter in the sense that they vote. If they do not vote for the person who gives the kikes get out of jail cards, they lose power. Which is why we're being blasted by propaganda and replaced by migrants every single day.But yes, I agree with you. Normalfags are serfs in one way or another.
>>726408975What a fucking drama queen lmao you faggot get a grip
>>726409273Mario was always a nigger.
>>726408328kek did it take the pose from Rob Liefeld art?
>>726409140>>726409273learning to prompt is harder than learning to draw
>>726409398I mean he's Italian.
>>726409059nta but why not just browse a booru? The fact that you wasted your own electricity to regurgitate this shit seems completely pointless. Its like being a fan of music but preferring to listen to shitty cover bands instead of your favourite music.
>>726408828And coincidentally the same people who caused Rome's collapse are the same people running the world back then.Time is a circle and we need a hero again
>>726409449>learning to prompt is harder than learning to draw
>>726409109skill issue
>>726409449in that case you'd be drawing instead
>>726395873good one, buddy
>>726408649Nvidia got both it hands in the ass of Intel and AMD esp since the govt got involved with Intel and the money glitch
>>726409235its not particularly dramatic to call you a gatcha tier shit eater. AI destroying creative industries is a given, nobody pays for something that feels infinite, it has inarguably already fucked the internet.
>>726409505say this to any artist, retard
>>726391470at least videogames usually turn a profitAI looks worse than star citizen as an investment>yeah once we get the technology right and the investors start asking for returns we'll have everyone so hooked on our cool AI features that they'll gladly pay the $1000 monthly subscriptions that we need them to pay us in order to break even
>>726409505>boomer STILL doesn't get it that you can generate 10,000 images for the cost of 1 hour of gaming with the same gpu
>>726409449then why are you prompting? oh yeah because you know that learning to draw hands alone is harder than taking an entire course on how to use AI. AND you can lose months worth of progress if you go for too long without grinding.
>>726409684Artists create new things to contribute to this corpus of human beauty you knowAI slop isn't even worth the hard drive storage to save it
>>726409586Ironic considering the only people genning media are doing so because of a skill issue.
>>726391470How's the stock situation, though? I have $50,000 I need to get rid of, but it doesn't seem we're getting another break like Nvidia's 2020 to 2025 surge.>>726393259>>726393787Are you guys dumb? Your consoles run on AMD. Unless you're a tendie NOW, at least. They can just go to either AMD or Intel.
>>726409786>Artists create new things to contribute to this corpus of human beauty you knowjust like him>AI slop isn't even worth the hard drive storage to save itcope harder loser
>>726400245I see both sides of it to be desu. Yes, you shouldn't use AI to get your doctorate, but I'm paying for gen eds I will never use in my actual career. Of course I'm going to use AI on my gender studies course. Problem is, no one wants to make this distinction. Retards who make up the general population will think that thinking less is simply easier and therefore AI should think for them in every aspect of life. I have a room mate who wakes up and asks an Alexa for the weather, when he has a window right next to his bed and a phone that could tell him in less time it would take.
>>726409684the artist made something, you did an elaborate google search which it indistinguishable from typing a bunch of tags into a booru, except you had to pay for the very slow image to appear.
>>726409779If I wanted to browse through 10,000 images that all look almost exactly the same I would go on r34
>>726408616nice tiktok education, faggot
>>726409913Cope harder, it's genuinely hilarious.
>>726409946then do that retard why are you complaining about others and power usage and shit for? you're a schizo
>>726409779Yes but don't you have like enough images to look at for the rest of your life?
>>726409880>it actually takes skill!>it's hard and legit!>actually it's easy!>I can make a thousand of them in an hour!pick a narrative ranjeetThe fact that you can gen this shit instantly, en masse, and just roll the RNG dice on the seed, means it's disposable.
>>726409907you sound like the retarded 10 year old who says "ill never have to use math in my life why are you teaching me to count?" Then they enter society and they have the stink of retard wafting off them constantly.
>>726391470> NO GPUSbecause of ai> NO RAMbecause of ai>NO SSDbecause of ai>NO WORKbecause of aifuture is looking GREEEAT.
>>726410098>if i wanted to>then do that retardwow nigga. damn. you gotta slow down and read. getting this defensive is messing with your head
>>726410096AI artists eating good
>>726410008It's all you deserve, peasant.
>>726410125
>>726408975>destroying basically everything worthwhile in societyNo that happened years ago>Gaming is going to die because What is the amazing game that you are scared AI is going to kill? All they make is remakes now every 2 years.>Muh Dark SoulsOh well glad to be rid of it, ruined RPGs and replaced them with shitty dungeon crawler parry spam shit. I hate that i'm forced to share a genre with soulsfags.>hardware prices will shoot to the moonYou don't need the top GPU to play games, people buying them for anything other than AI are just faggots who want to brag and aren't playing shit on them just like iPhone fags.>real art will be replaced by lazy slop,Oh no we'll replace the amazing inspirational $50 human commissioned art of Mario fucking Sonic in the ass with AI generated Mario fucking Sonic in the ass. What a tragedy and loss for humanity.
>>726410096Are AI shills just Indians wishing to manifest a slop patreon account to scam money?
>>726410247what part of "you will own nothing" do you not understand?
>>726410458>luddie can't understand there are people who like seeing high quality art even if they were made by an AI artists
>>726410096KEK, this is on the level of a whore posting an only fans to try and prove how successful they are. Im sorry but this only makes tranny neets jealous, it also explains why you're so rabidly pro AI because you're worried about losing your job.
>>726410426it's the one time in history you can freely read and understand systems, but that's too hard your brain, so you'd rather rely on easy conspiracies.
>>726410545People paid for NFTs too
>>726410247just wait until the crashyou'll have a window when the investors are getting liquidated after they realize people """need""" 2 or 3 bots max for the .01% of people that use them beyond gradeschool homework, and not the 3000 they want everyone to sub to. Just brace yourself for bullshit tidal waves as the solution looks for you to become its problem.>USE NEW GOOGLE GEMINI COPILOT CORTANA TO KEYS
>>726410458Not necessarily Indians but yes they're the type of people who will say X good just because of money.
>>726410458its always about money for them which is why they stink like the NFT crew despite the tech being completely unrelated.
>>726410593True knowledge is never free. It's kept secret for the advantage of the powerful.
>>726393668>>726396283>>726398110>>726400715>b-but ai hit a wall in ̶2̶0̶2̶2̶ ̶2̶0̶2̶3̶ ̶2̶0̶2̶4̶ ̶2̶0̶2̶5̶ 2026>an llm could never be as smart as me>bubble will pop in 2 more weeks!lmao @ these coping luddites. cant wait for their surprised pikachu face once ai has automated their jobs if they are employed at all
>>726410125>The fact that you can gen this shit instantly, en masse, and just roll the RNG dice on the seed, means it's disposable.Nobody cares how much effort you put in they care about the resulting product.Just because a retard takes 2 hours to write his name on a piece of paper does not make it valuable or mean he deserves to be paid for it.
>>726410593What is there to learn... It's just you make money with money. Very intelligent. Much wow.
>>726410816oh nooo its so complicated, put your money in the snp 500 and wait, buy up assets and rent them out, all this elite arcane knowledge of how to succeed that we peasants will never have access too.
>>726410186retarded comparison. math is the fundamental basics. even if you're a retard managing a counter you need do to math on the fly to sort the change.i graduated in IT and now i'm a code monkey. but i was still forced to learn how to calculate integrals, work with imaginary numbers and do physics because "it's an engineering course". also program in assembly. or else i wouldn't get the "you are now allowed to work in this field" paper. i've never needed to use any of that shit in a practical application, and most of the shit i DO use was learnt AFTER i got that dumb paper.having a degree is less about what you've actually learned during the course, and more about your ability to learn complicated shit and absorb it quickly and effectively.
>>726410951Haven't any of you ever found a trick in a video game where you can just move money around buying and selling shit in a loop to generate infinite money.You just do that IRL.
>>726410709I am now understanding this entire debate is about artist crying they are going to lose their jobs vs AI Sloppers crying they are going to lose their porn patreons.
>>726411227
>>726410942and just because you told a computer to make it in 10 seconds(10 minutes) doesn't make the resulting product(yes, product) more interesting. would that make you an art speedrunner? you know what they say about speedrunners
>this gets announced to /v/>instead of intellectual responses, it's all retarded cope about "muh optimization" (aka everything should be made for my 1060 6gb for all eternity no I won't get a job and upgrade cater to poorfags only!!!!!!) and "n-no good games are m-made anyway"
>>726411247The point is you dont know what will be useful to you in your future and a stupid cheating kid or student is the worst person to decide what they will or will not need. They are all lazy assholes who would rather brain rot to tiktok and play videogames, if you give them a choice they will all become stupid vegetables.
>>726410850Do you have a job, anon?
>>726406546>fags read this and clap for them to own more
>>726411417you dont need luck, you make your own. the elite dont have access to secrets on how to succeed, they have access to secrets about how you stay wealthy after being born into it, how dodge taxes, manipulate people and fuck people over without going to prison. I never needed their knowledge.
>>726411690Yes.
>>726411247>having a degree is less about what you've actually learned during the course, and more about your ability to learn complicated shit and absorb it quickly and effectively.This is cope from someone that got scammed.
>>726408328Online generators are shit. Local ftw.
>>726406594Basically this. The art culture war discourse becoming a magnet away from how AI is about to irreversibly change humanity forever is the best gift SkyNet AI overlords could've ever asked for
>>726411801t. A Poor
>>726410545>high quality art even if they were made by an AI artistsThere is no such thing as high quality AI art, and prompters are not artists.
>>726411852I will simp for benevolent, privately owned corps the same way i simp for benevolent dictators. If the motivation is correct and they are competent they deserve respect and support.
>>726411994>There is no such thing as high quality AI art,There is.>and prompters are not artists.they are.
>>726411908The most hilarious thing I've heard yet is that americans apparently have higher power bills because AI is hogging all power.
>>726411943only poors are seething at elites. if you were rich you wouldn't be so bitter.
>>726411420>and just because you told a computer to make it in 10 seconds(10 minutes) doesn't make the resulting product(yes, product) more interesting.It doesn't need to be more "interesting" it needs to meet my requirement and fulfill whatever purpose i'm generating it for.If you are charging big money and taking days for something I can get for free instantly then your product better be a hell of a lot higher quality.But most artists know they are not which is why they feel threatened by AI. The minimum bar for entry has been raised and that is always the worst thing in the world to incompetent unskilled people who want to wallow and stagnate.
>>726411521umm sweetie, you can't just talk to transgenders like that. they are humans too. think about that
>>726411529on this point we both agree. lazy retards just make life for everyone around them harder.>>726411863scam or not that's what companies genuinely believe. and they're the people who decide if you get to go hungry or not.
>>726412039That's the correct mindset, but the wrong master.
>>726411872i tried using foooocus with some models and it takes ages to start up on a 16gb vram gpu. also pytorch wasnt compatible at first which took some time to fix
>>726412039>the same way i simp for benevolent dictatorswho are the current benevolent dictators i should be looking at?
>>726412117>if you were rich you wouldn't be so bitter.You don't even need to be smart to see that's not true. Rich people are as unhappy as anyone else.
>>726412321I am. I just don't have any power (yet).
>>726409449then why not learn to draw if it's easier
>>726411908why are the arguments on 4chan so obsessed with twitter artists? is it because every AI enthusiast is a failed artist who was seething at porn patreons their whole life? There are so many other angles and other people who hate AI for a billion different reasons
>>726412294You're doing something wrong, bubba
>>726412435drawing is for fags
>>726412213slave mentality and morality destroyed the west. That is not the right relationship to have with god.
>>726412321don't think there's any in the modern era, but brazil's last emperor was giga basedthe tl;dr is that he was heading the counrry in a highly prosperous direction and was very popular, but then was suddenly overthrown by a clique of republicans because muh democracy, thought and well the rest is history, brazil is a shithole now
>>726412451>im definitely not a seething twitter artist by the waylmfao
>>726412321Im a lee kuan yew simp but he's dead. Nobody else is competent enough to be of note.
>>726412586Correct. It was greed and the desire for power that propelled the West.
>>726412451>AI enthusiast is a failed artist who was seething at porn patreons their whole life?no, they're the fags who see it as a weapon to hurt artists.All this crying and discourse? This is truly what they want
>>726412653I've never posted to twitter in my life, meanwhile every AI slopper is obsessed with them and every argument ends up with them gloating about how much they or some other retard is making on patreon.
>>726412329>You don't even need to be smart to see that's not true. Rich people are as unhappy as anyone else.That's the point, their lives are just as shitty as everyone else's in some cases even worse so you have no reason to be jealous of them.
>>7264124514channers don't have jobs so they don't have to worry about AI obsoleting themwhat else should they be concerned about?
>>726412829well they all act like you, you're annoying faggots
>>726412786every argument ends with them talking about money.
