Ubisoft is really going to be acquired by Tencent at a low price.
>>726470327Oh don't even want to say oh no anyway because I don't even care enough to say the "oh no" part ironically
We already knew about this deal, what was the big reason for the delay?
>>726470327>session dayswhat the FUCK is this metric?
so they're gonna start shitting out chinese propaganda from now on?
>next anno game will be about ancient china, but it wont be pozzed.
>>726470327Finally we will get a good Assassin's Creed game in Ancient China.
>>726470612France is getting really close to becoming a communist shithole lately. all internet scandals are there to validate a closure of the network with full control, chink style.
wonder if the chinks will still let them make judaism propaganda
>>726470573Corpo speak to appease shareholders.
>>726470327Probably would've been even lower if they'd waited a week
>>726470678They've already been sitting on that for years at this point. There was even a beta test which people recorded the entire playthrough of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQZ5O0VLC2sIt's a mobile game, they designed it entirely around not having controller support because they wanted to make mobile controls good and fun or some dumb reason like that, and it looks like Odyssey's systems but so much worse because it was supposed to be F2P or something.If any China game comes out it's gonna either be this as-is or reworked into a console game with the monetization toned down or ripped out simply because as far as we know this thing has a budget exactly like any other AC mainline meaning it's AAA priced.
>>726470612Opposed to what? Amerifat propaganda?China by far the better option
The company is technically insolvent regarding profitability (Net Loss €161m) and operational sustainability (Cash Burn €240m). The "growth" is visible only in Bookings, while realized Sales have declined. The €1.16bn Tencent transaction is mathematically required to prevent the debt burden (€1.15bn) from overwhelming the remaining cash reserves (€668m).
>>726470968Least obvious wumao post.
>Make a subsidiary with all the actual VALUABLE IPs and sell most of it to Tencent>That saves you from debt... but now you have 10k employees with the worse IPs and a stock that doesn't make sense for Investors (why would I invest in something that 90% is already owned by Tencent? I don't want to invest in their no-name shit games)They're so fucked, this barely balances the sheet but basically one more mistake and Tencent takes all the good shit and Ubisoft collapses.
>>726470612chinese games are far less of a propaganda tool than western games. at least those that become popular outside the chinese firewall
>>726470767The owners still wanted complete creative control apparently, don't know if that still stands.Be cray if they still go full throttle on woke shit and their next games flops.Thing is it's a poisoned brand anyway and everyone won't purchase and just wait to see what woke shit is hidden late in the game.
>>726470543their accountants lied regarding loans
>>726470543>Auditors found that the company miscategorized sales from a partnership as revenue under international financial reporting standards, the French firm said in a statement Friday. The auditor’s position also resulted in not recognizing some revenue linked to a deal signed in the second quarter of the 2026 fiscal year, according to the statement, which came a week after initially expected.>The changes put Ubisoft in violation of loan agreements as of Sept. 30, which the company will address by early repayment of loans with an outstanding principal of about €286 million ($330 million) after a pending deal with Tencent Holdings Ltd. closes, it said. https://archive.is/LFCbp (Bloomberg)
>overperformingDoes this mean "did well" (I wouldn't believe it)OrDoes this mean "did better than our low projections" (of intentionally awful sales)
>>726471608>>726472114so it was basically a nothing burger?
Jarvis pull up the archives of the previous threads so we can see all the pol midwits now cross reference those posts with these half hearted posts confused on what's happening The midwit house party protocol sir?
>>726470573I noticed that too, I don't get why investors would care if someone played a game once or a hundred times instead of if they paid full for it or got it free from a service>>726472241no they tried to pad their stats and had to payout loans early as punishment, meaning they have less money to throw around now
>>726472205If you want a tip reading these activity reports for the future : ignore everything that's not indicated by a number and a currency.211 million "session days" across an entire franchise as old as assassin's Creed means absolutely fuck all.
>>726470327I honestly don't know what to think anymore. Did Shadows bomb or not?
>>726470327Tencent has the opportunity to do the funniest thing right now
>>726472620Wait for your dedicated pol schizo midwit to let you know his hot take
>>726472620it FLOPPEDchina now OWNS 100% of ubisoftthey're DEWOKIFYING ubisoft as we speak
>>726470461they firing the woke devs lmaobaseddaily reminder that woke is a self solving issue
>>726472620it broke even, that we know but that is not remotely close to the moneyubisoft needs
>>726472838>>726472872And now the pol tard spinning has begun
So should i sell or..?
>>726470728>France is getting really close to becoming a communist shithole lately>closeanon...
>>726470327NOOOOOOI don't want them acquired by anything, I want Ubisoft gone like it's fucking Psygnosis or BullFrog!
>€1.16 Billion.I'm both surprised and unsurprised at that price.One billion Euros for Ubisoft seems so little, but at the same time, it sounds like the right price. Maybe it's low because its current day Ubisoft? Maybe it seems so low because other game companies sold for so much more? Sony bought Bungie for $3.6 Billion USD, which has always struck me as a fucking terrible decision that was made solely in response to the Microsoft Activision-Blizzard acquisition.
>>726470327serves them right for trusting chinks
>we promise you in TWO years we will be making money for SURE this time!
B-but Assassin's Creed™ : Shadows™ with Yasuke™ had 6 trilion active™ players on the first week... What happened?
>>726472620It didn't bomb, but it wasn't the miracle they expected (and needed) it to be. Let's be honest, Ubisoft has been on a decline for years now, with several terrible management decisions and shitty games released one after the other. They are now getting what they sowed.
>>726472973look at the operation costs retard they are obviously firing people en masse
>>726473414they need to just make an assassins creed set in india. they would make trillions instantly.
>>726473447of roupies. so about 15 dollars
>>726473414it's OVER for Ubisoft MASSIVE LAYOFFS happening WOKE DEVS are being fired
Ni Hao! I'll buy it at a low price!
>>726472432They use it to gauge the possibility of dlc and momentum of sales throughout the year. They also use it to gauge the success of a sequel.
>>726473512>yeeeeeees goy, only the troons and dangerhairs are getting the axe, there's no brain drain going onI hate liars
>bethesda ruined fallout and wolfenstein, made starslop and refuses to make skyrim 2>got bought by microsoft>ea ruined mass effect, dragon age and battlefield>got bought by saudis>ubisoft ruined far cry, ass creed and r6s>getting bought by chinawas this an inside job? woke sleeper agents turned managers from russia and china?why did all the major western publishers suddenly ruin everything in barely a decade?
>>726470612China has been generous!
>>726473605>woke sleeper agents turned managers from russia and china?Its name is the Democratic Party of the United States.You know this is true.
>>726473368AC shadows was a success, in fact its one of the best selling in the franchise. It wasn't enough to make up for Ubisoft other failures. Star wars: Outlaws, Xdefiant, skull and bones (AAAA), etc. I'm tired hearing yall yap about AC shadows was a failure, that's just big cope.
>>726472373>>726472675>>726472973>>726473512>>726472838>>726472838seething won't undo the report
>>726473784>It wasn't enough to make up for Ubisoft other failuresso not even if Shadows got 60 quadrilion players, it wouldn't save ubisoft?
>>726473784it sold less than the first game
>>726473867Yes, because of incompetent management at Ubisoft. Nothing to do to with "BLACK Samurai IN JAPAN". You sound a bit mad friend, everything ok in life? Maybe estrogen pills can help you.
>>726470327>Ubisoft is really going to be acquired by Tencent at a low price
>>726473605can't speak for the other two studios but bioware was brought down by a mixture of EA retardation and its own incompetenceveilguard for instance was rebooted three times, made a lot of decisions on the final reboot under the assumption that they had a little over a year deadline (it would take them another 4 to release) that they couldn't take back despite the deadline being fictional, had lead writers in weekes and epler who REALLY need some sort of supervision and tard wrangling to not produce shit like veilguards story, and apparently was still off the rails enough near the end the mass effect side of bioware had to basically take over and finish things which leads to some tonal dissonance in spots. so no, EA has been making retarded decisions for like 20 years but managed to survive independent for so long thanks to fifa
>>726473784>yallshow hands nigger
>>726470327>"Assassins Creed has generated 211 million session days"Having to make up a metric THIS bullshit indicates it was a huge flop. "Session days". Christ.
>>726474152Which is funny because DA: Inquisition faced same problem having a rough development cycle. DA2 was rushed for the console market.
>>726473784>>726472620>>726473394You don't talk about "session days" if your game is a success. You talk about SALES. The fact that they don't mention sales at all means the sales were terrible and they're trying to stop the shareholders from noticing.
>>726474435>t. retard who has never read ubisoft financial reports beforethey've been doing this shit for years and they never report sales in their financial reports
>>726474435Bookings +20.3% in H1 vs sales –2.1% means a larger share of business is being deferred (live services, undelivered content, etc.).Actual recognized revenue dropped by 2.1%. The "growth" in bookings has not yet translated into recognized sales, or it relies on deferred revenue items (season passes/partnerships) that have not yet been delivered.Big improvement in both operating and net margin vs last year, but still loss‑making at the net level.
east>if we want to win over the western audience we need to impress them>go all in on quality, sex appeal and fun>and make it f2p so we can get as many players as possiblewest>quality? lmao no that takes time>we have a brand name, just sit back, people will buy whatever we make>just look at cod and fifa, no sweat>in fact, blackrock is offering free money if we add some diversity shit, i dunno just accept the money>baldur's gate 3 just won?>NOOOOOO TELL THEM IT'S NOT FAIR AND UNREALISTIC
>>726474364inquisition and andromeda both had a similar problem in that they were forced to use frostbite engine because of EA and it was a pain in the ass to do so that sucked up a lot of time. they wound up in insane crunches but only inquisition managed to pull it off mostlywell they also got an extra year of production because mark darrah wanted the ability for people to play as nonhuman races so gave them an extra year and the money needed to pull off the new races lmaoinquisition really was a terminal lucidity game for bioware because it had all the development issues that would plague every single flop after it, but unlike them actually managed to be a success so they never course corrected.
>>726474863>quality? lmao no that takes timeThat Destiny 2 GDC talk is still insane to me how blatant he can be with being lazy.
based. hopefully Tencent fires all of them and starts making good games again. an Asscreed set in Warring States period would be baller. Also hey why not take Might & Magic out of the ubisoft vault's mothballs?
>>726474435It's obvious you don’t have your own opinions, you just parrot whatever Grum the grifter says.
>>726473784>Shadows was a success>why?>because the franchise has accumulated 211 million session days>how does that translate to profit and what about Shadows itself>uhhhhh
>>726474936>inquisition managed to pull it off mostly wellThat's debatable, it felt like a empty MMO. Plus with that forced tran quest and rewriting the quanaris' lore because of it. The DLC were pretty fun though
It puts out the game chud wants or it gets the bankruptcy again.
Tencent is getting ripped off.I'd offer ubislop a grand total of $1 to assume the branding and licensing rights. I'd keep perhaps 5 employees.
>>726475024>That Destiny 2 GDC talk is still insane to me how blatant he can be with being lazy.What did those idiots say?Players are like cows?They'll pay to eat any crap you shove down their throats?
>>726475342The dev basically said you can't release too much content or people will use that as the standard for which to measure future releases by. If I remember right the paid content he was talking about was an expansion pack that had like ten guns, some story content, and a single raid.
>>726475406Ah, that traditional laziness.So Destiny 2 is dying.
>b-b-but we heckin ratio'd Elon on Twitter!!!
>>726475181the game was a huge success for bioware, not to say there were no flaws but they clearly weren't major enough to drag it down like andromeda just a few years later. it's why I called it terminal lucidity for bioware because it gave them a false reassurance that their insane development cycle was totally fine and wouldn't cause any issues.
>>726470327Lol, at this point that's basically fraud against shareholders.>"Everything's fine! Assassin's Creed sales are 35% above average!"when they just released a new game in the franchise, and even then sales are only 35% above previous years where all they had were old games being discounted by 75%.
>>726472620They're measuring success in terms of "players" and "session days". It should be pretty obvious how well it did if they don't dare to talk about revenue or copies sold.
>>726473784>in fact its one of the best selling in the franchiseInteresting, can we see the number of sales?
>>726476293Best I can do is "franchise-wide session days".
>>726474152>can't speak for the other two studios but bioware was brought down by a mixture of EA retardation and its own incompetenceIsnt EA famously hands off?Like you can say EAs retarded for not babysitting Bioware considering how fucking dumb they are.But its hard to blame them for BIowares fuckups
I love how there's always a troon defending Ubisoft in every thread.
>>726476798>Isnt EA famously hands off?
I believe the biggest problem with Ubisoft's leadership is their complete lack of taste.These people don't like games, don't play games, and don't care about games.Yet they've pushed out the people within the company who truly understand games, replacing them with woke individuals who never play games to develop them.Why would they believe this would make a lesbian Black woman buy their games?
>>726476798EA was both hands off and meddlingthey will deliberately impose certain guidelines on the company like you have to code in frostbite, this game has to be multiplayer etc. but didn't actually micromanage most of what the studio did beyond maybe having an exec try to insert retarded ideas occasionally. like IIRC EAs CEO once suggested they should have your character fly dragons in DAI but bioware just assumed he was joking and ignored it.so it was the worst of both worlds. you'd get lots of retarded directives but then EA just let them wallow in their own shit so long as they produced a game at the end and it sold
>>726473605>picdamn us gamers eating good
I find it really funny that culture warriors defend shadows.If you actually play it Yasukes 110% some last minute addition because some suit freaked out over them having a female protag.Naoe is definitely the real MC of that game and Yasukes some dudes fetish bonus character.You would think that would offend people.
>>726477025>Why would they believe this would make a lesbian Black woman buy their games?they never did, they don't care about sales, they hate you and want to shit on everything you enjoy
>>726473263you mean BlackRock, wtf do the chinks have to do with their woke agenda?
why this succesful blockbuster producing company taking loans to stay afloat? is sony the same?
>>726470612oh yeah
I want AC Shadows 2 starring Yasuke's son so they can collapse even further.
>>726473223The billion is for the subsidiary with all the high value IP, not Ubisoft itself anon
>>726477176I think AC Origins you were originally supposed to have that asshole wife Aya become the main character there's very clearly a clash between whoever the AC devs are that for four games now have been desperately pushing the female main character angle and the chuds at the top forcing them to either let players choose the characters gender, have a male and female mc, or simply stick with the male mc lmaohell technically it's five games in a row with syndicate but at least there it was a deliberate choice as far as I know
>>726477176You need to understand that there's no group that is as racist as culture warriorsNo other group demeans and infantilizes marginalized groups as much as them, they treat those like endangered animals and not actual people
>>726477176>Naoe is definitely the real MC of that gamethey already had a story. they threw it all away to slap a black dude and a chick on the cover
I'm pretty sure the only franchise in current day that is actually worth something from a quality standpoint, is the Anno one, which they are already milking with Paradox levels of zeal, so... who cares about Tenncent getting them? It's not like AssCreed and Far Cry can get any worse than they already are, and what else is there? Splinter Cell is dead, Watchdogs never even lived, rest is shovelware tier shit.As long as they don't cancel Anno, which... why would they, are doing fine, it does not really matter who is at the helm. In fact, as much as I despise the chinks, they might at least correct the more recent obviously poor decision making.
>>726477658These companies were so infected by activists that when George Floyd died of a drug overdose after trying to rob his ex-wife, they probably spent two weeks holding meetings every day to determine how they could use their games to improve the world.I'm not kidding, I used to hang out with these guys at university, and it was clear to me that it was all a fundamentalist quasi-religious cult. One of the girls who was neck-deep in this crap confessed to me later that when she left, her life improved because the cult was fucking with her sanity.It's easy to understand how Ubisoft and other corporations manage to screw everything up when these corporations opened their arms to the cult of lunatics.
>>726477240anon the company is a small price to pay to the culture war, we can't let the chuds win
>>726478459>These companies were so infected by activists that when George Floyd died of a drug overdose after trying to rob his ex-wife, they probably spent two weeks holding meetings every day to determine how they could use their games to improve the world.fucking kek they probably did
>>726478459>>726478653Something about George Floyd attracts youYou can't help but think about him all the time He's always on your mind When someone mentions him you get so emotionally unstable you practically lose control of your bodily functionsYou're in love with him
>>726478772seek help
So anyway heres one of the many threads anti woke pol teen Latinx made when Ubisoft halted trade https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/726079913/#726127212Screenshots of their posts would be funny
>>726478772Retard, finish the thought above.They threw the original story in the trash and put the nigga samurai in the hero's place because they were moved when a common junkie died of an overdose shortly after threatening his ex-wife's life.They really thought they were improving the world with their nigga samurai, which explains why they get so angry when we make fun of the end result.Try making fun of a fundamentalist's religion and see how his reaction is pure anger and hatred. It's the same thing here. When you laugh at the nigga samurai kissing a transvestite on the mouth, they feel deeply offended.
>>726479037Jesus why are they so cringe
>>726470461Am I reading this right? They made almost double the revenue on old games even though they all cost like $15 now? KWAB
>>726479037bro they got caught doctoring the reports
so how well did shadows sell?
>>726479037Where are they now?
>>726470612>from now onexcept they already do, retard
>>726478772you meth floyd fuckers looted and burned down multiple cities and spent years laundering hundreds of millions through sham charities. I couldn't forget even if I tried. I'm beyond disgusted with your subhuman behavior
>>726478459>It's easy to understand how Ubisoft and other corporations manage to screw everything up when these corporations opened their arms to the cult of lunatics.It is even easier to understand that they are not, and never were, doing it out of desire to improve the world, but out of desire to capitalize on moral trends and just make more money.After all, that was the real nature of BLM: to make money. The organization went from a tax-write-off scheme with 3 employees and yearly budget of about 100 dollars, to multi-billion international behemoth with tens of thousands of employees and yearly turnover of hundreds of millions of dolllars.Famously, immediately after the events dided down, the two founders - two black lesbian self-declared communist women, instantly cashed and then proceeded to buy about 120 million dollars worth of investment property to rent out, securing themselves for life as massive landlord giants, and leaving behind a completely bankrupt organization.Nobody who supported BLM even fucking associates with them anymore, even the true believers have since admitted that it was a scam.Same goes for Ubi, EA and any other similar company. Moral outrages are lucrative (for a while at least). They do not give a FLYING FUCK about trannies, they just realize people who do are dumb, guilible, and could be exploited for cash.
>>726470678an ass screed in china during the opium wars where you kill guilaos trying to peddle copium into your dilapidated mongol-fucked shithole
>>726470327It's time for Ubisoft's comeback rise to the top.
>>726470327>free major update for Mirageo shit im reinstalling, that game was kino
>>726479221in this thread, reading the report and celebrating the downfall. "we are back in 2 years we swear" is nonsense. and they already fired 1000+ people out of 17000, with no end in sight.
>>726479306Look at how he rages i bet his keyboard clicks were furious
>>726473784success don't need to hide their unit sales and benefits numbers to their investors.
>>726479037Why does everyone in this thread sound like a midwit
>>726470573it's the cope metric
>>726470673But there already is "Aaaancient Chiiiina" Anno. Celestial Empire.Okay, they don't have the islands but modern Anno is all about removing those mechanics anyway.
>>726472620A lot of cope is out there regarding their nigger gameIt flopped hardThey wont even speak about sales and they've fucked around so badly that they now need to piece up the company and sell it to the ChineseIt's worse than any one is saying and they are hoping that if they don't talk about it, it won't be trueThere is no such thing as a Black Samurai, and even if there was, no one wants to play as one
>>726479603Its ironic this was made by people 4chan would call bug people
>>726479312Millions of people got fleeced by those two negro women lmfao. Their bank accounts matter.I'm going to have a laugh at all the stupid communists who helped funnel money into the pockets of two capitalists that don't give a FUCK about the plight of black people.
>"Assassins Creed has generated 211 million session daysWhere are the hard sales figures?Do stupid investors actually find this metric acceptable? I wouldn't even accept units shipped as acceptable.
>>726479861How many movies did Netflix sell?
>>726479312There's a difference between the corporation as a "person" and the actual people there making decisions.The legal entity Ubisoft doesn't give a fuck about faggots or racism, they're just trying to find the path to profit.But in practice, their decisions ended up putting activists in charge of making decisions, and that's where decisions that are clearly ideological are made. There's no point in pretending that this doesn't happen. A few years ago, an anon who claimed to have sold all his Ubisoft shares posted a bunch of screenshots in a thread showing how infected Ubisoft was, and how insane it was to invest in the company at that time...Read pic related and tell me if that's the vision of a corporation seeking profits blindly, or the vision of an activist.
>>726479906Oh hello! I didn't think I would meet a Ubisoft investor here.
Im posting with unironic teenagers and midwits aren't I?
>>726479861It's just a funny metric to meNot only does it encompass this nearly 20 year old franchise as a whole, it's being measured in playtime, in a game that is famous for its bloatLeaving the game idling while you go do something else counts for it, it's the funniest shit
>>726479956Answer the question how many movies did Netflix sell?There should be a new captcha that filters midwits like giving earnest opinions on things you know tangentially well
>>726479190very poorly as you can see by the amount of shills on the board right now
>>726480079>Its doing so poorly it can afford constant shills?Need a stronger term than midwit
>>726479678>Millions of people got fleeced by those two negro women lmfaoYes. And it's actually worse than it seems, because their primary money-making scheme relied on them actively encouraging anti-social and criminal behaviors among blacks during the outrage, because the by far most popular "charity fund" they had was one that promised to provide legal aid to blacks who get criminally charged during the protests - while the coordinated riots and violent protests.They literally encouraged black people to commit crime, then collected money to provide them with lawyers and bails. Except they obviously took part of that money for themselves ("administrative fees") - while encouraging illegal activities.Meaning they got a lot of blacks arrested and imprisoned. The whole thing is so fucking disgustingly morally bankrupt, even if you are "sympathetic to the black plight" it makes me shiver anyone ever allowed for something this fucked. Which is why nobody defends it nowdays, again: this was not just opportunistic exploitation of bleeding heart idiots: this was exploitation of blacks in the most disgusting possible way. >>726479951>There's a difference between the corporation as a "person" and the actual people there making decisions.That is true, but the whole point of contemporary corporation is protection from individual agency and distribution of responsiblity in such a way that any individual person does not really have any significat agency. That is not a joke, this is a well researched socio-psychological phenomenon. So the personal values of any individual group, or even a faction within a corporation, have rarely if ever had actually impacted the behavior of the whole company.There are exceptions, the whole blackrock fiasco being an example, but I doubt Ubi is such a case. Sure, there are a lot of woke people in Ubi, but I doubt this actually affects how Ubi acts as a company.
>>726479906>>726479956kek
>>726480056All you're telling me is that Ubisoft doesn't make money selling games. I'll be honest till I went to their website i didn't even know Ubisoft had a subscription service but from what you're saying that's their main revenue generating product. So i guess the question then is, how many subscribers does Ubisoft+ have? Because we do get subscription numbers for Netflix (this is the actual comparison to 'sales' not Minutes watched you know)
>>726479861>Do stupid investors actually find this metric acceptable?For once, it seems like investors are NOT complete fucking retards, given Ubishit's stock performance over the last half-decade.That's a rarity.
>>726479989Right? It's a really pointless metric that is shocking to me being utilized in any kind of financial report. Session days. >>726480056So what's the difference between a video game you buy once and a streaming service you pay monthly for? Retard.
>>726480296Are you telling me you don't know how companies make money in the streaming eraI guess gamepass doesn't make anything since it doesn't sell anything
>>726470327Tencent already owns all of ubishit's good IPs due to a deal last year. There's literally no reason to buy ubishit as a whole. There's no value left in the stuff not already owned.
>>726480123ubisoft became penny stockfind a real job
>>726472114>a deal signed in the second quarter of the 2026 fiscal year...the fuck? how the fuck do they know what happens in q2 2026 when it's still 202fucking5? why the fuck are they uses ai to write this retarded slop?
Now all of a sudden these retarded pol teens acknowledge the existence of streaming Just minutes ago they were going >Huhhhhhh? Hours played???? Lmao wtf does that meanMidwits
>>726480363As per MS financial reports and statements Xbox Live has 35mil paying subs. How many does Ubisoft+ have?
>>726473574nigger who gives a fuck about "braindrain" it's fucking ubisoft, it can only get better under chinese leadership. Fuck leftoids and fuck niggers
>>726480295
>>726480412Ubisoft's FY26 runs from April 2025 to March 2026.
>>726480431>Could Google one thing but to lazy to Google another thingMidWitActivities
>>726479190>so how well did shadows sell?The fact that we don't know is indicative that not nearly as well as they hoped it would.On the other hand, don't listen to naive idiots who thing it was a complete failure either. Ubi's god a massive audience of casuals who will continue to buy their games regardless of what.The issue is what the margin of success is with companies like this. I'm absolutely confident that Shadows sold mutiple times better than, say, KCD2. It no doubt made hundreds of millions of dollars.However, AssCreed game are also NOTORIOUSLY mismanaged and thus orders of magnitude more expensive than KCD2 was, in fact they are at that state where it is very hard to say how expensive they were due to sheer bloat of the production process.So: did Shadows sell upwards of tens of millions of copies? Yes, almost certainly.Is that enough for the company's currently insanely wasteful business model?That is much more of a relevant, and difficult-to-answer issue. But most likely not, as they are really fucking weird whenever they are asked about the subject matter.
>>726480462ButBut total session play time!!!!!!!
>>726480489Googled it, can't find anything because they don't report the numbers because like most European companies the entire system is corrupt enough that it makes China look normal. Remember the Diesel emissions scam from the 2010s
>>726472620it bombed, but it wasn't made to make money, it was made to spread propaganda and generate drama, rainbox six AIDS is what makes them their money, because for some reason retarded niggers play that retarded nigger shit
>>726480503>So: did Shadows sell upwards of tens of millions of copies? Yes, almost certainly.
>>726480462That bottom article has anti woke feelings all over it
>>726480596hey next up xer is going to call you a midwit again for not finding anything
>>726480626>it bombed, but it wasn't made to make money, it was made to spread propaganda and generate drama, >rainbox six AIDS is what makes them their money, because for some reason retarded niggers play that retarded nigger shitSo then they can make games that never sell because according to your midwit logic it doesn't matter You're contradictory posting shows once again
>>726480185>Sure, there are a lot of woke people in Ubi, but I doubt this actually affects how Ubi acts as a company.I see, but the whole problem is that Ubisoft is making cultural products. If it were a hammer manufacturer, no one would give a fuck if they were fighting internally to end racism in the world. At most, they would make some pink hammers or some shit like that, lol, which wouldn't mean anything.But in their field, the internal beliefs of their employees end up severely impacting the content of their products.
>>726480667Yes you and he are midwitsIf they don't post sales data for their subscription service which exists why do you then find it irrational they don't post sales data for their gamesMidwits
>>726480185amazing how deep coropos were buying into that entire social cultural thing, remember the tranny beer clusterfuck
This is why China is winning.Where Winds Meet is the game Ubishit wishes they could make.
>>726480792post them bro
>>726480462i went to check on reddit and everyone is very negative, but not on 4chan the beacon of positivityno shilling to see here lmao
>>726480503>>726480628>So: did Shadows sell upwards of tens of millions of copies? Yes, almost certainly.Even if we include third world copies that sell for a fraction of the price in a western region, no. I can imagine that Shadows moved all in all 5 million copies to date, maybe 6 at best. But if Shadows had sold anywhere close to 10 million Ubi would have shouted it from the roof tops. But regardless, Shadows would have had to sell 50 or 100 million copies, by now, to turn that ship around.
>>726480914Dude please do not harass the Ubisoft investors in this thread.
>>726473605>why did all the major western publishers suddenly ruin everything in barely a decade?over on the old textboards, before they got killed by jewt and mrfagbob, we had a term for this: DQN. it stands for dumbly qualified negligence
>>726480984It's just one dude who's upset that the falling knife he tried to catch went directly through his palm.He thought Ubishit would bounce back because he's retarded.
>>726480849>Where Winds MeetNever heard of it so I looked it up.It's free to play slop with cosmetic gacha apparently.Also is the only non-anime games setting chinks can do medieval fantasy china?
>>726481164>He thought Ubishit would bounce back because he's retarded.they literally cooked the books no one is touching that with a ten foot poletencent are retarded for getting involved with those crooks, it's below them unironically
>>726479861Why do you think all corporations changed from giving raw data to "engagement" based metrics. Investors believe that shit somehow. Whats funniest is how apparently even negative engagement with the product is nowadays counted as a win for them god fucking knows why.
>>726480762>I see, but the whole problem is that Ubisoft is making cultural products.Yeah. I am not saying that Ubisofts behavior is not harmful to the industry, and to our society. They are ultimately normalizing pathological attitude towards history, towards minorities of various kinds etc... I'm merely pointing out the mechanics of how or why it happens, because it's important to know for future reference and predictions. Ubi jumped on the woke wagon hard, and that is a bad thing. But it is worth noting that the mechanic behind this is often more complicated than merely "leadership is woke" or even more stupid "Blackrock paid them" explanations you see around. There are elements that caused this that are inherent to the free market and corporate structure (ironically, stemming from the very same capitalism core that woke peopl decry so hard). It's good to realize that this isn't just about ideology and there is a CONSIDERABLE portion of cause related purely to market mechanics and opportunistic business models. Because that will allow use to prepare for times when the same dumb shit will happen being driven by entirely different ideologies.The bottom line here is that our contemporary understanding of business practices and especially corporate direction strategies are in many ways fundamentally flawed, and major corporations becoming the active mouthpieces of retarded woke minority is a result, it teaches us to question the basics of common industry sense. Because the woke fad will actually wither and die down sooner than later, but the propensity towards acting in a really stupid ways will remain.
>>726481375WARNING WARNING MIDWIT HOT TAKE DETECTED A HOT TAKE BACKED BY NOTHING MORE THAN FEELS AND VIBES WAS JUST DETECTED
>>726481375>Whats funniest is how apparently even negative engagement with the product is nowadays counted as a win for them god fucking knows why.That's been a concept for decades, negative publicity is still publicity, see Howard Stern in the 90s. However, in the past 7-8 years, companies have leaned really really hard into this
>>726481525WARNING A MIDWIT FEEDER HAS JUST BEEN SIGHTED BE WARY HE WILL GIVE THE MIDWIT ATTENTION AND VALIDATION BY REPLYING TO HIS POST SINCERELY WARNING WARNING
>>726475537derpstiny 2 already died when they added that kernel malware shit
>>726481472bro just sell, the more you hold the more you lose
>>726481013>>726481013>But if Shadows had sold anywhere close to 10 million Ubi would have shouted it from the roof tops.No, no they would not. The reason why they are keeping these numbers secret is actually less about the sheer number of copies sold looking bad, and more about them having to admit JUST HOW INEFFICIENT they are. They aren't silent about the numbers because the numbers would look bad - they are silent because admitting that even 10 mil + sales is still not enough to justify the investment would be THE REAL FUCKING KICK IN THE NUTS to their investors.They are not hiding failure of Shadows, they are hiding a fundamental dysfunction of the whole company on every level. Everyone knows that Shadows is one of their most "unpopular" games. Everyone knows that they can't keep making games like this - e.g. that the game "flopped" from their commercial interest point of view.There is no hiding that.What they are hiding is how fucking broken their own spending culture is, how inefficient the company really is, how, despite having tens of millions of fans so loyal they will buy every fucking piece of trash they release: they still fucking can't sustain their own business for future.That is the real shitshow here, that is why the company is tanking, and that is what they obviously didn't want to admit to their investors. Shadows obviously didn't do well enough to save them from the current shitshow. But the sheer scale of the failure is actually far bigger than just Shadows.
>>726481271It's basically just some chinaman's grab-all of all his favorite AAA game ideas.It's Sekiro + Ass Creed + Genshin + Archeage + Black Desert + Warioware.It's fucking weird and janky, but surprisingly not awful despite being a F2P gacha game.
200 million goon session days to mommy Kassandra
>>726481678ALART ALART SHITPOSTER DETECTED HE HAS NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION SO HE JUST SAYS EMPTY HEADED THINGS TO APPEAR CLEVER HES THE EMPTY CALORIE OF POSTERS ALART ALART
>>726481525I know about a fact that this concept exists for a long time but nowadays due to corporations moving into engagament based metrics fully that shit got retarded. Market is so oversaturated with competition in some spaces they started to believe that if normgroids know their product even exists its a big win which in some way is understandable I guess.
>>726481817Deep breaths
>>726481271I wish it had a different aesthetic and the production values didn't fluctuate so damn much but its a cool game.
wtf is wrong with this deranged schizo?
>>726481945Can't accept Ubisoft is being bought out and they're cleaning house
>>726470461>they're making money >they're making money because they went back to Steam>they're making profits because retards that swear ubishit is trash keep buying their games everytime they appear in the new lowest price banner in the seasonal salesUbishit could've gone under if you faggots actually stopped supporting them
>>726470673Ancient China is Haram for those communist faggots, ancient China for them is Maos day
>>726481945DANGER DANGER NO REPLYING POSTER DETECTED HE'LL AVOID REPLYING DIRECTLY TO POSTS TO GIVE HIS MIDWITS OBSERVATION A SENSE OF DEPTH DANGER DANGER
>>726481945some jeet short circuit
>>726481710>But the sheer scale of the failure is actually far bigger than just Shadows.Any game that is in development for more than 5 years is grossly mismanaged. Every single AAA studio could pump out an iterative sequel of their biggest games in 3 years. But they don't want to because they(everybody involved from the suits to the producers) all have something different in mind and it takes them years to even agree on a direction for the project. That is how budgets blow up and with it sales expectations all while the money men become more and more risk averse.
>>726482368just say it, devs are lazy and overpaid
>>726470573Bullshit corporate speak. I can almost guarantee it isn't even a logically quantified metric or anything either. It is probably something like individual user login in a day counting as 1 'Session Day' regardless of actual play time. And may even go further to be an even more wobbly calculation of assuming daily logins for individual users regardless of whether they did login or not. You can make up all sorts of bullshit with raw stats if you massage them enough.
>>726482368Now your opinion on gta6
>>726482368>Any game that is in development for more than 5 years is grossly mismanaged.I disagree. Ignoring the obvious small-scale projects and indie games that are a love-project of certain individuals (Factorio was in production for MORE than 5 years before 1.0 and was an impeccably well managed project): 5+ years of development is now the industry standard, very much unavoidable even for well managed projects. The recent aforementioned KCD2 being once again, a good example. 5+ years of development, "mere" 4 million copies sold, and yet doubling the company's net worth and future spending potential.The issue isn't the 5 year mark, the issue is just... major western corporations degenerating in their capacity to gauge and sustain business models in general, and Ubi being one of the best case study examples. And again, becoming "woke" is merely one of many symptoms of this broader dysfunction, rather than the causal element.There needs to be a certain feedback loop, between the decision making, and the business result, so that the company can actually correctly learn from their mistakes and adapt.Among major corporations, such as Ubi (but many others, including Paradox, Embracer, Take2 and others) - this basic feedback loop no longer works anymore. They keep betting o nthe wrong horses, they keep refusing to learn from their past mistakes, they keep turning a blind eye to things that clearly indicate they need to change direction.Ubisoft refused to acknowledge that the sheer novelty of extremely high-production values of environments simply wore off as a selling point. That was their business model for AAA games: zero innovation in gameplay, tech or narrative, everything into production values alone.And yeah that worked for a while, even for a long time (almost a decade). But it doesn't cut it anymore. Yet they keep doing it. That is why they fail. Investing 600+ million dollars into games that having nothing but pretty assets to ofer is their undoing.
>>726482620>>726482368
>>726482505>just say it, devs are lazy and overpaidHaving known a lot of game devs, including those working for AAA companies, that is rarely actually the case. It's far more the case of there being 10 000 of them employed per game, and also the ratio of actual devs to various forms of management being 1:3 in favor of those managers.The people tasked with making those really pretty fucking models for stone lanters in Shadows are likely extremely underpaid and incredibly overworked.But that does not change the fact that they still somehow manage to squander hundreds upon hundreds of millions of dollars for absolutely no worthwhile gain.
>>726483191>Having known a lot of game devs, including those working for AAA companies, that is rarely actually the case.you are too close to see the blatant competency crisis in video game development
>>72647046117000 employees for the output Ubisoft has is insane, considering even EA has under 15000 and they've got multiple annualized franchises and live service games
>>726483191the problem is that before 2010 most devs and artist did general art school or engineer schools and after that, private "game schools" flooded the market with overspecialized people who learned half invented shit about "good practices" that only served to justify the shool price. Those people now make game and worse some of those imbeciles control whole studio for the worse results possible.
>>726478772nicely retarded ironic projection you got there
>>726482505The actual designers, the code monkeys, animators, mechanics and scenario designers, are only doing what their team leaders are telling them who are only handing down instructions from the lead producers and those guys are literally sitting in meetings all day arguing about basically everything. From the height of the trees and density of rock formations to the movement speed of the PC and NPC designs. They don't call that mismanagement or a waste of time anymore, they call it the "creative process.">>726482620GTAO is making so much money that Rockstar has no reason release a GTA6. If, and it think it's a given, they are going the same live service route with GTA6O, the day they release 6 will be the last day of GTA5O, simply because everybody is going to migrate. So they are just taking as much time as they can. Basically polishing every door knob in Vice City, because they can afford it. Imagine a $500 dinner at a 3 star restaurant but the table cloth is wrinkled or a drop of sauce is rolling off the plate when you get it. Either until graphics have progressed to the point that GTAO is considered "old and ugly" and is losing players or MTX revenue just "naturally" starts to dip.>>726483009>so that the company can actually correctly learn from their mistakes and adaptAAA companies and projects are cruise ships. Any course correction is going to take a long time to actually affect the path. Unless one of the top 5 leaders of a company walk into a studio and bitch about the state of the project nothing is going to happen any time soon. When you have 50 or 100 people working on a game you can just walk down the hall and talk to the team about making changes but when you have 500+ all around the world you need schedule meetings to change the color of a shirt.>zero innovation in gameplay, tech or narrative, everything into production values aloneI think a really well made iterative sequel is going to sell just as well and is cheaper to produce.
>>726482013>If I don't read I can say whatever I wantthe roadmap is dreadful and nothing there talks about "making money", it's struggling to break even, with "maybe" a return to normal profits by 2028
>>726474116>IZZAT ALL, INCONNU? HEHEHAH, THANK YEW!
>>726483874>private "game schools"right, my young cousin fell for that, hook line and sinker but as full on uni course. Although it seemed like he wisened up a bit and last I've heard he was into prototyping tabletop games as well
>>726479973considering the gay ass 4chan extension you're using, and the way you can't even properly crop a screenshot, you are the unironic teenage midwit here, fucking retard
>>726480486what the fuck is fucking wrong with the fr*nch? jesus fucking christ
