[Sad News] Steam game dev artists must now disclose all references they used or traced from while making a game
+15 izzat to you sir
>>727269398Or what? If devs use ai and don’t disclose, and nobody notices, then what?
>>727269398valve really need a concrete example of this.
>>727269617Then they're using it properly, and it isn't an issue.
>>727269398That's fake, no such article exists.
>>727269398Good, this time you fixed the date. Well done faggot
>>727269398>discription
Oh boy can't wait for this dogshit thread to reach 500 replies by faggots who don't fact-check and faggots who know this is fake but pretend it's real anyway so they can ragebait.
>>727269617Depending on how big the dev is they just bother them with Steam Support. Small devs skirt by a majority of the time since no one gives a shit about them, but bigger names get some pressure to keep appearances. The times that small devs do get pressure is usually threats of revoking the Steam page until it's updated. This goes for any store policy.
>>727269398>>727269796Yeah, should slam that shit on Baldur's Gate 1 or something.
>>727269398What. The. Fuck.Why is valve doing this!
>promptstitutes coping this hard because their slop is labelled slopkek
>>727269398Yeah no I'm gonna have my artist trace over questionable material with our original characters and not tell steam.
>>727269398we need to kill gabenq
>>727269398>discriptionthis is AI
Referencing AI is a literal nothing burger because you end up having to fix the AI mistakes and youre not copying the the image 1 to 1
>>727269398>tracingIsn't it bad form anyway to trace another person's art and say it's your own?
>>727269398Good. That lets me support developers that actively hate voice '''actors''' as much as I do.
>>727271506its a good practice actually
>>727271506100% of artists trace
>>727270420most boards engage in fictional scenarios as a reason to post more.
>>727271616>>727271657As practice, yeah, but not to pass off as your own without any meaningful alterations. Similar to fair use.
>>727271734I get paid for tracing, fuck off retard.
>>727269398>poly update>discription>references and tracings>your gameIt's so fucking obvious holy shit. The AI bubble can't pop soon enough.
>>727271815Cool and some people paid for murder and oppression.
>>727269398[Fag News] OP already made this shit bait thread and it was just as homosexual last time.
>>727271815What's your favorite thing you've drawn that hasn't been traced?
>>727269796While this is obviously fake, you could throw something like this at Vampire Survivors pretty easily.
>>727269398Ok so the thread already confirmed it's fake which honestly my retard ass should have been able to guess right away, but let's talk about this hypotheticallySo if this was real and The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth was released today, would Steakmund have to write down every single video game and movie the powerups, enemies and game mechanics reference in his game
>>727269398lol this is just out of spite to Timmy, I am amused.
>>727269398Funny how you already made this thread and it's even still up on the catalog.>>727249419
>>727269398Obviously fake but it was never about telling us the ingredients of the game we're playing, it's just about punishing indies who have to use AI voices while propping up AAA who pay literal whos a million per voice recording. Most Steam policies are about that, even the 30% cut is negotiable for AAA publishers, but not for indies lmao
>>727272357Yes. Customers need to be informed about dishonest tracing that artists engage in
>>727272541>who have to use AI voicesthey don't have to use voices at all.
>>727270420>ragebait frfr on foenem bruh im crashin out
>>727271404Ai would do a better job.
>>727269398You fixed the date this time, well done!
>>727272756You don't have to suck dick either yet here we are
>>727269398>AIfags don't understand the difference between using a reference and AI slop bootlegging entire art stylesIt baffles me how much AIfags want people to view them as "legit" while knowing nothing at all
>>727271694The failure here is defaulting to e-drama to fuel discussion. Consequence of tortanic and gamergate. We used to talk about video games or have fun activity threads like reveal the vidya when we were bored, since video games used to be the main attraction here (shocking!). Now we're basically an e-drama aggregator site. So now instead of going back to video game discussion when there's no spicy dramas going on, we just make up drama to simulate it.
>>727273925Well the only people clinging to AI for dear life are jeets and rightards as it helps both inherently uncreative, untalented groups pretend they have a skill. Of course they're entrenched and will never understand reality
>>727269398>>727269796>>727269617UH OH! STINKY! op had a big melty! hahahahahahahaha
>>727273925>We want AI art to be equal to normal art but forcing us to disclose that its AI made is bad because ummmmmmm it just is okay
I used AI for 100% of the art in my game including menu / UI and didn't disclose it. Most of the reviews mention how good the art is and one even mentions how it's proof that human art is better than AI.
nice last ditch page 10 bump, nigger
>>727278004Who hurt you incel
>>727269398>invite>must
>>727275031Do you seriously believe that retarded ai shit?It just regurgitates whatever the first search says without any fact checking or even looking at the other results
>>727278086your momma's pussy
>>727278168Never reply to me again SEAnigger pedophile
>>727271815So you are brown. That's nothing normal people should aspire to be.
>>727278275>those tits>pedophile
>>727273430But not the time. Valve isn't in CST, they're in PST. And it's not 10 am in the PST zone yet, when Valve's day starts.
For reference, the response from a Valve employee that pissed OP off and made him equate AI disclosure to art reference disclosure.
>>727278538How is it better for hack "artists" to trace and copy people's hard work than for an AI to use its machine learning to learn styles?
DNS flood all ai nigger posters
>>727269617>good artists copy>great artists steal>brilliant artists don't get caught
>>727278629Your country is about to get abandoned back into the poo pits it was pulled from :)
>>727278829Racism won't save you from AI taking your job and women
>>727278639>DNS flooddid the 14-year-old just learn his first skiddy term off wikipedia?
>>727278275>this is who you're arguing withGrim
>>727278168If it's the first result doesn't that imply it's the right one?
>>727278629Because when a human uses reference they don't just grab 100 pictures and use calculate how best to combine them all into one picture. A reference is just a baseline for how you want something look. Half the shit in your pic that's supposed to be "tracing" isn't even tracing.
>>727279718>We stupidly copy 1 thing instead of smartly drawing inspiration from 1 million things!lol
>>727279313I'm old though
>>727269398>uses AI to make an anti-AI bait threadImpressive
>>727279671No
>>727269398The fuck are you tracing shit for? That's always been something nobody has liked.
>>727278629Well go ahead, trace. It's the same as your ai jeeteration after all? Oh wait, you can't you are just sore thirdie hoping magic black box that shits out pretty pictures puts you on the same level.
>>727279856>AI>"inspiration"Nigga it's quite literally """art""" by the numbers. There is no inspiration because AI is not intelligent or capable of even adding anything that is unique to it to anything it creates.
>>727280364>AI is not intelligent or capable of even adding anything that is unique to it to anything it creates.You can make it generate things that no one has ever drawn before. How is that not unique
>>727269398KWAB
>>727280691why don't you go and do that right now?
>>727280835What?
>>727280691It's smashing together things using context of stuff it's scanned. AI doesn't create, it regurgitates
>>727280943But isn't that unique
>>727280943So exactly what humans do. By the way, you don't understand AI on a technological level at all. It thinks. "AI is autocomplete" is repeated by retards who don't understand the technology whatsoever.
>>727269398>saar fixed the date blunderKEK
>>727281210Yes because a human is autocompleting my words as I type, retard.
>>727281210>By the way, you don't understand AI on a technological level at all. It thinksYou are a clueless ai psychosis victim lol. There's no intelligence in statistical noise.
>>727280691AI doesn't choose to make something a specific color because it "thinks it's neat". If I told it to draw an apple, it wouldn't draw a green apple because those are its favorite kinds of apple. It would make an apple based on data and nothing else. AI art is soulless because there's nothing there when making these kinds of decisions. It's what separates an AI generated picture with a studio Ghibli filter slapped on it, from a picture that someone made in themselves in the style of studio ghibli
>>727281567There's still a human prompting it who thinks it looks neat though
>>727281450You are a tech-inept who doesn't understand an addition program, let alone AI. In the research, AI had a nonlinear intelligence curve compared to its scale - if AI were unthinking you would get a linear graph, but actually there were spikes as LLMs "figure things out" like humans do. An LLM can explain why a brand-new joke is funny, solve a task that has no written equivalent on the internet, etc. It thinks, probably more than you do. Why comment on shit you don't know anything about? Do your homework and stay off the internet, kid.
>>727281567Getting ever closer to debating if robots deserves rights or not by the day with this logic.
>>727281768that would imply LLMs are intelligent, which they're not, they're a similarity check on auto-pilot
>>727281567humans don't do anything because we "think it's neat", that's an illusion. we like green because it reminds us of safe temperate prairies from our ancestral past, spring, etc. AI likes it because of its training, which is not different from evolution really
>>727269398i was okay with the AI disclosure thing but this is kind of retarded and just proves Timmy right. EVERYONE is going to be using AI for reference material, to generate ideas, even if AI slopping and just throwing AI genned slop into games 1:1 with no edits (hopefully) stops being a thing. AI isn't going anywhere.
>>727282073how many years of "it WILL BE a part of your daily life" has it been now
>>727269398AI bros are really steaming, huh
>I AM ARTIST!!! I CAME UP WITH THE IDEA>oh yes btw that AI thing is intelligent and thinks for itself and makes decisions... but I am the artist here okay??Aijeets are so retarded it's not funny
>>727269617>and nobody noticeslol
>>727282897I collaborate with AI (which is smarter than you.) What's the big deal?I'll also be rewarded after the singularity as an early proponent of AI, while you'll be sent to cyber assrape eternity prison and be flayed alive by demons with barbed 12 foot cocks made of sandpaper and rusted nails.
>>727269398Get fucked you anti-AI faggots. You got what you deserve. Also disclose that you fucking used digital art programs instead of a canvas and paint. Fucking niggers.
Thanks for the (You)s retards!See you in the grummz/pirate nation screencap xitter post.
>>727282252About 1?
>>727283435OP's image is AI btw
>>727283826Don't care because it still makes a good point.
>>727282897The actual argument is the other way aroundAnti-AI trannies:>Your AI art isn't impressive because the AI does everythingAlso anti-AI trannies:>The AI isn't actually doing anything, it's all you
>>727285501>>The AI isn't actually doing anything, it's all youHuh? Are you okay aIjeet? Nobody says that. It's never you.>>727283271So I was spot on with AI psychosis lol.
>>727281759>An LLM can explain why a brand-new joke is funnyIt can hallucinate an incorrect reply yes.> solve a task that has no written equivalent on the internet>solve a task that has no written equivalent on the internetLLMs literally can not do that outside of some marketing in house testings.>Why comment on shit you don't know anything about?You tell me.
>>727285749>>727285625Delusional anti-AI tranny. Keep me updated when you're homeless because you ignored AI coming for your "job".
>>727280364Ai is a tool, the prompter is creating things.
>>727278275Do children have tits that big where you live? I'd like to move there.
>>727269398>don't do it>game becomes wildly popular>makes a lot of money>"hmm we suspect this and that was stolen from there and here">"we need to do something about this!"now what faggot?
Epic will take over the market simply because Steam has a stigma against AI despite this revolutionary new tech already taking over everythingMark my words
>>727286172Valve will quietly change their stance in a year and that will be that
>>727286172Its a voluntary disclosure. Just dont disclose. Someone calls you out on it? Tell them to fuck off you have broken no rules.If you need to disclose, it means the AI is obvious. If the AI is obvious, the artist mafia will target you.
>>727269398valve is a store, they are becoming retarded
>>727286308>the artist mafia will target you.The funny thing is it's only unemployed "artists" who do this. Everyone with a job is far too busyUnemployed artists shouldn't be angry at AI, they should be angry at other, superior artists
>>727269398>discriptionShitposter fails to spell his photoshop edit twice in a row.
>>727285862>helpless meltyAI has been coming for my job for 3+ years already, all it did was provide me more security since aijeets are too stupid to ever be effective at anything that requires real intelligence.
>>727286172Now post the article from 2019 about Epic overtaking Steam in 5 years.
>>727286542ahahaha oh no do you work in software>he doesn't know
>>727278168works on my machine desu, it usually accounts for when the shilled first couple results arent what i want and actually gets to the meaningful information a few results below. And sometimes the LLM understands theres no page describing 'exactly' what you need but manages to synthetize a better result by collecting everything. specially for slightly obscure academic shitI used to think like you until i started taking screenshots of what the AI said and then checking it after i was done checking every single result and turns out its actually quite based, by far the most helpful llm ive ever used
>>727269398Lol, i can only imagine the shit show!!
>>727286576I indeed don't know what's happening in your ai psychosis melted brain.
>>727269398>>727286391Valve we know is long gone, they have even started custom names from your items if they think there's something "offensive". Had these for years and today, gone, just like that.
>>727278629Because it filters lazy hacks like you who don't care enough about what they're making to put a modicum of effort into making it their own
>>727287257You've never made anything with AI and have no idea how much work it requires. Generally speaking if you're making assets for a game you're making mockups as regular art, letting the AI inpaint over that using controlnet, then revising several times, transferring to photoshop for refinements, etc. It's just as high effort as regular art if you're not shitting out zero effort content (which legacy artists routinely do as well)
>poly updateIs that supposed to be policy update, my good saar?
>>727269398>didn't use any!Checkmate and get fucked, meanwhile AI niggers using AI are blatantly obvious and cannot hide having used it LOLHuman power
>>727269617permaban
>>727269398Uhh just say it’s all original? It’s literally impossible to prove otherwise unless your a fucking hack
>>727287480are you like 60 years old? how come all anti-AI retards are either transgender they/them 15yos or christian 60yos with drug addled brains
>>727287613Sucks to suck AI nigger, maybe develop your artistic skills or commission an artist rather than being a species traitor
>>727287705my game is currently raking on steam and no one has any clue the art is all AI so i think i'll be fine :)
>>727286172It took Epic years to add a cart.
>put AI art in game>people don't like AI art>people don't buy the game>"I'm being oppressed"literally what do you want, for gamers to be forced to buy a game they don't like?all this crying when it's YOU who's ignoring your target audience's wants
>>727287778>transgender>is anti-AIlike cockworkwhy is it always the trannies?
>>727286172>AI is taking over everything>still can't name a single successful game that uses AI for more than 1% of assets
>>727287778rule of thumb is if you see something being pushed really hard, they're most likely getting a paycheck from it in some wayit's either that or they're just the dumbest ape to ever swing through the jungle
>>727287854I'm passing thoughbeit, unlike your "art".
nobody wants any of this. the only people who "care" are leftists, mentally ill troons, etc. let devs make the game however they want and let the market sort out what's good and what's dogshit.
>>727287767Is that so? Post your game and show proof of you being the owner, go ahead AI nigger. Oh that's right you won't because you didn't release any game because you're full of BULLSHIT. Choke on your own feces and DIE cocksucker
>>727287943AHAHAHAHHA
>>727287864All of the voices in Arc Raiders are AI and every single AAA game in the past 2 years has used AI extensively for concept art and assets.
>>727287767post a screenshot of the wishlist/sales chart (you won't)
>>727283435Sure. If you ask I'll tell you which program I'll use. I'll even go into detail over the digital brushes I used.I'm not ashamed of my tools
>BREAKINGBREAKING>BREAKINGBREAKINGAI keks love AI so much that they feel the need to hide having used it!More news at 11
>>727269398very cool screenshot OP but somehow I can't find this post anywhere else on the internet
>>727288117>every single AAA gameokay, post names then, point out examples where assets are AI
>>727288179>>727287946>>72728748060yo avatarfag christian>>727287778>>727287943Self-admitted transgenderThese are anti-AI advocates, everyone
>>727287158>I fell for a shitpost and now I'm madBased retard
>>727288240>point out examples where assets are AIYou can't, which is the entire reason why studios are all using AI now.
>>727288345Come on man, there's gotta be something, like even a single rumor post from a laid-off whistleblower.
You will believe anything
>>727287778>saaaar AI is the future>saaaar AI will be everywhere>saaaar everyone loves AI>but PLEASE PLEASE BLOODY BASTARD REMOVE AI LABELING BITCHIt's almost as if aijeets know full well they are not welcome and are in full denial cope mode. The only way they can enter the space is by forcing themselves, lying, being dishonest and sneaky about it.
>>727275031>posting an AI summary
>>727288286>t.
>>727288668This, if AI is the future and only troons hate it, why the big push to remove the label? It's just a label, most people don't even scroll down to see it, why the obsession?Oh that's right, because people digging through the thousands of games on Steam and deciding what gets to the trending page, don't like AI, and AIjeets are delusional enough to think this label is what gives them away xD
>>727286812Even if the results are accurate in an internet discussion using AI results as an argument is about as credible as saying "My friend said it was true". Cite some credible sources next time, or better yet ask the AI to provide sources that you can then screencap
>>727287395I have, and know exactly what it takes.Creative writing is a skill anyone who passed high school should have, and I will never consider typing to be work.Well done deflecting to shitty artists. I never once claimed there aren't lazy ass traditional artists
You'd think ai jeets would get the hint when the "AI THING" was a cool and novel label, but still nobody cared about it and saw it for slop it is. Nobody except other ai jeets is willingly watching "AI movie" or plays "AI game". You'd think they get a clue, but instead they try to be sneaky about it and try to avoid detection and celebrate when they fool somebody.And now when AI labeling is a thing, the seething gives them away. Everything you need to know about ai jeets is in their pained screams. "NOOO! I've been found out!" Wonder why they are not wearing it as a badge of honor. Reeeeaaaally makes me think.
>>727287395>It's just as high effort as regular artIf it were the same effort you wouldn't be using AI in the first place you goddamn moron. Who are you trying to fool.
>>727289297I didn't connect the dots before but it truly runs in their bloodfirst they had to pretend to not be indian in call centers, now they have to pretend they're not using AI
>>727269398good
I don't even think AI art as a tool is bad. Hell, it can be great for learning and improving at art.But that's the catch, nobody who uses AI wants to improve, they want good results now. All they have to do is pick up a pencil once in a while and experiment to find flaws in their prompting approach, but that's too much to ask.
>>727269398"Artists" are such huge faggots
>>727289297>I am transgender and 15 and HERE IS MY IMPORTANT OPINION ON AI! It's exploiting heckin minorities and hurting da earth
>>727289525That is the thing, you've hit the nail on the head. They want the kudos but none of the effort.Making real art always has some awkward phases when you're learning, but that's the point of growing as an artist. Majority of these guys don't even wanna try and it's sad.
>>727289806>no rebuttal>insane schizo babbleUh oh rakesh... It's not looking good for you
>>727269398finally dice will have to admit that they used real-life military gear as a reference for their supposedly original game
>>727288312>shitpostNah, it's real. They are monitoring names now, careful not to put anything offensive on them. Some troon might get offended.
>>727278086>>727277968get a hobby
>>727288312>it never happened to, so that means it HAS to be shitpost/fake, my favorite multi billion corpo would never do something like this
shouldn't you AIfags be working on your dream game instead of whining on forums
>>727287395>It's just as high effort as regular artActually baffling assertion
>>727269398GOODTotal AIslop Death (TAID)
>>727270164Oh yeah it is fake.Total OP Death (TOPD)
>>727280691Eh, it's more like it adds a coat of custom paint to a generic amalgamation of pre-existing content. I love it for making smut of characters with not nearly enough but you start to see the repetition in poses/details pretty quickly, even in newer checkpoints like Illustrious (god I hate having to put `door, doorway` in my negative prompts).
>>727269398saar redeem the izzat*poops on the ground**takes selfie in front of moving train*rape you yesterday
>>727270676If you game does not get above 100 reviews then your game is a failure. If your game gets above 100 downloads they can look through it to see if you have some synthID in your textures or just just take a small look and see if you did something obvious. If you locally generate rock texture they will not catch you and probably even anti-ai crowd that seethes over voiceacting will not care.>>727271657Shit artists do. Reminder that all the artfags that were against AI in 2022 were also heavily against tracing before AI, and were regularly engaging in tracing witch-hunts.
I wonder how different AI would be treated if not involved with Indians.
>>727270420Oh sorry didn't realize the god of 4chan was here, what should be doing then oh mighty one?
>>727269617Considering the current trend is to assume all shitty art is AI somebody will call them out on it whether they actually used it or not.
I am confused on what tracing implies, would this be considered tracing?
>>727294259I'd say that's more of a composite image/editing.
>>727294259no, this sprite isn't being passed off as hand-drawn. I assume. unless you're saying the devs are pretending they drew this. surely not.
>>727270420most drama in the world today can be attributed to people either being too lazy to fact check or wanting something bad to be true just so they can be upset about it.
>>727294259I don't really know and tracing was always retarded concept to me.
>>727296472gonna cry?
