>makes pc gaming prohibitively expensive
>>727827514>Early Life
>>727827514he stole your Chistmas memory's.
>>727827514Looks like a man that knows what a dick tastes like
>>727827514Just have bought your new PC a year ago. Idiot
>>727827798imagine admitting to have a dick that's too smell to self suck
>Already have a PC>BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY BORDERLANDS 5 AT 16K 200FPSGasp
reject ai
Why does he look so uncanny?It's like he's from the same planet that Zucc dropped from
>>727827568>it's realEvery single time.
>>727827878>pc will eventually need replacement parts>prices will not drop for atleast a decadebetter take good care of your computers
>>727827514>cancels the PS6
>>727827514Reminder that this retard's whole business strategy is to turn a next-word prediction program into a self-aware computer then ask it how to make itself profitable.
>Its the end of the world again>BUT FOR REAL THIS TIME>And it will never go away>TRUST ME, THIS TIME IT WONT Whatever you say, bro.
>>727827978Jews are inbred as shit.
>>727828103People are going to look back on this era with total disbelief.
>>727828090How long do you think you can overprice monsanto, boeing, lockheed martin and nestle?Because you have to remember that they're megacorporations that have to buy computers for their ever expanding offices and servers.
>>727828103Kek
>>727827568>also>faggot>raped his sisterVery expected from one of the (((chosen people))).
>>727828397AI corpos are gonna get most of the contracts for atleast 2-3 years.After that the corpos you mentioned will start getting the contracts for another 2-3 years. It MIGHT come down but I don't think the prices will drop too much as the resources will still be scarce.The prices will still linger a higher end for the rest of 2-3 years.So I think around a decade is a safe bet
>>727827514I just hope I can find a job in time to quickly buy a second GPU for my local ai
>>727828697I think it will drop a lot faster than "a decade".1-2 years tops.RAM chips at $1000 can easily pay for another RAM factory, because capitalism and shit.
>>727828959>invest in more factories so your product can be cheaperyeah no one's doing that
>>727827514What if this was all just a way to take away gaming from sensitive young menAnime will become globalized and we'll lose that tooAnd then we'll have to fight wars
>>727827514>massively inflates my portfolio from doing nothing but just holding random tech stocksDoing me a solid, honestly. Gave me enough extra cash this year to start diversifying for when the bubble inevitably pops.
>>727827514Gay men should not be allowed to buy children. Why does every gay couple end up buying little boys.
>>727829137Of course not, but>invest in more factories so you sell more chips and get more total moneyThat's a thing.It's not about how many dollars per chip you get, it's how many dollars x how many in total you sold.>invest in a RAM factory to steal a piece of cake of the other companiesIs also a thing.
>>727827568his name is ALTMAN-FRIEDyou dont need anything else
What is it about this man that makes leftist trannies SEETHE so much?
>>727827514What the fuck is happening with his left eye?
>>727828397Big boys get discounts, everyday people will still be fucked.
>>727829619He is a leftist himself. He supports LGBT rights (also a fag, btw), is Jewish and loves brown people.
>>727829736>Altman>leftistYWNBAW
>>727827514Get a job poor scum
these companies are going to have to liquidate eventually when AI fails to be realized.that's when you buy.
>>727829780>he sucked up to trump like all the other tech giants that means they're conservativeswhat the fuck is this logic, are you fucking retarded?
>>727827878This. I have 32gb of DDDR5 ram and I'm on windows 10. I can game and have 4 active monitors. I'm not interested in cheap pajeets sloppa. If a good game comes out, it'll be good because the programmers behind it are dedicated and will optimize it properly.
>>727829780Altman is 100% leftist, he's just kissing ass to daddy Trump cause he's got no choice. But spend some time talking to ChatGPT and you'll see just got gimped the AI is with left wing propaganda.
>>727829851Ai is our past, present and future though
>>727827514As fun as it is to blame the jews this is more letting 2-3 East Asian companies control the RAM supply. They have been fined for price fixing and limiting supply before but it's not enough. Samsung denied their own mobile division's request to produce more RAM so they could maximize profit.
>>727829904LLMs will never be AGI. Sam Altman knows this. He's just grifting.
>>727827514the entirety of gaming will be prohibitively expensive, phones will go up too.
>>727829851>buying sloppy seconds RAM Yeah no thanks. No one wants RAM that’s been ran through like a college whore. Almost as bad as buying crypto GPUs.
>>727829897>>727829896>>727829859Retard
>>727827514FACT: There is not a single GOOD game that needs top end hardware because its an inherent property of GOOD games that their developers aren't severely retarded indians who are unable to optimize. GTA6 will run just fine on a 1060.
>>727828103You can say he's a retard but when the crash comes he'll just retire to his diamond yacht. I'd say the ones giving him money are retards but then I remembered investment funds play with house money anyway and their CEOs also don't give a fuck
He will convince the government to go all in on the AI grift or risk "losing" to China. Your tax dollars are his plaything.
>>727830169>>727830143It's hilarious seeing you freaks seethe over this. AI is the future.
>>727830070i have a crypto GPU, it's been running fine for several years now.you are stupid, but that's ok because we need stupid people that only buy "new" things to keep prices low.
>>727828098The PS6 will be a $1200 streaming box with a mandatory online subscription to do anything
>>727829727Big boys get shit, if they want to buy brand computers like lenovo or apple
Great. 70$ AAA games will die as $15 indie games rise
>>727830194sure, shame it will be a shit future
>>727830070What's going to fail on the RAM?
>>727830228I guess people will just buy the PS5
>>727830169the govt doesn't need convincing, ai slop is the way forward to cut corners.
>>727830194>that'll be $4 trillion, pay up
>>727830075Are you actually retarded?If Sammy isn't a leftoid, then why is ChatGPT telling me it's ok for troons to adopt kids and for pajeets and niggers and mudslimes to be mass imported into Europe?Why does ChatGPT get angry when anime girls are sexualized? Fuck off.
>>727827514>>727828090RAM FOMO 선전을 하면서 얼마나 많은 돈을 받고 있나요?
>>727830356Why does Grok do the same thing
>>727827514AI can't fail soon enough. We're wasting untold amounts of resources and money to fund a scam.
>>727830356>Why does ChatGPT get angry when anime girls are sexualized?You cannot seriously still be buying into the "republicans love anime titties" in the big 25.
>>727830389It doesn't.
>>727830169He will certainly try, but Trump and his admin are much more interested in subsidizing real companies like nvidia and intel.
>>727830356>If Sammy isn't a leftoid, then why is ChatGPT telling me it's ok for troons to adopt kids and for pajeets and niggers and mudslimes to be mass imported into Europe?just capitalism at work, buddyeverything has a price, everyone is a replaceable commodity
>>727829780Riiiiight. This changes the fact that he sucks dick and shills for gay rights. Lmao, contemporary conservatism is a joke.
>>727830169It's the space race 2.0. There's no convincing required, since the whole thing is for optics.In 50 years, the whole thing will be seen as a massive waste of time and money.
>>727829897fucking laughable
>>727830389Elon Musk is a faggot who mention surface level right-wing ideology to seem edgy, but won't commit to it. Hence the H1B shit and his worship of Jews.
>>727830610>>727830510>>727830476Keep seething.
>>727828090>he thinks weimerica can go on for another 10 years
>>727830672>No argumentKek, you Zionist shills are hilarious.
>>727830075Conveniently not mentioned are all the other tech CEOs who also donated $1m, i.e. it was a fucking planned event by Trump to try to wrangle tech. Of course the tech CEOs are going to comply with someone who they see as a straight up lunatic since it's only going to be for four years.
>>727830729Showing your true colors now huh faggot?YWNBAW
>>727828098wtf i love altmann now
>>727829575you can't just get up one day and start a new semiconductor factory.competition is hard in this fieldthe companies in the game won't make new factories just so they can sell more chips for a few years. The new factories will be a money sink once the prices go down.
>>727827514This possibly isn't even a data center thing. Rumor is Altman is pretty much hoarding whatever he can so his competition cannot get their hands on it.
>>727830356he's a capitalist (read globalist). He has to conform to the whole world.
Why should a RAM company be forced to sell to you at lower than market value?
>>727830235>if they want to buy brand computers like lenovo or appleBig companies like boeing are able to secure deals, yes. That's how this has worked for decades and will continue to work.
>>727829137>>727829137Actually a lot of companies in China are doing that right now
>>727830828Are you stupid? I made it clear from the start I hated kikes. Israel's really not sending their best.
>spend a decade panicking and spreading theories about how the dems are going to force a great reset>the closest we are to it is now with republicans stacked in all 3 branches It's literally always been projection, hasn't it?
>>727831202Yes that's exactly the point. You have IDS like every other blue hair out there.
>>727831241both have always been corporate cocksuckers
>>727831023>He's a capitalist >Wants to implement UBI and replace us all with AI to create his communist "utopia"Uh-huh.... Might want to revisit what capitalism is.
>>727828179why is miku in the rat kings domain
>>727831241actually republicans are just retarded
>>727827568you couldn't tell solely by looking at him?
>>727827857SAAR
>>727827514Not just PC, Consoles and Phones too. No PS6, No Switch 3 or whatever Nintendo shits out. Just a dwindling supply of current stock. People will be fighting over old iphones and supermarket androids in the next few years.
>>727831380at least they know what a woman is
I always maintained that there is never a good time to buy GPUs, but this shit is ridiculous
>>727830194You mean like NFTs? Remember Web 3.0 games?
>>727831242Kek, imagine being a "right-winger" and sucking Kike cock. The cognitive dissonance of MIGAtards truly is something to behold.
>>727831493No right winger would shill for "Open"AI when Grok exists. He's a leftoid trying to poison the well.
>>727827514It's not just pc gaming.It's literally gonna be all fucking gaming.Phones included
>>727827978he is a suspected child molester (his sister)
>>727831936>suspected
>>727827978>Why does he look so uncanny?Cool it with the antisemitism
>>727830309>use a hammer>smash your thumb with it>"haha nice tool, hammerkeks. this thing is useless"this is you
>>727832208Leftists aren't known for being handy with tools
>>727829374Fuck
>>727827514Won't someone think of the poor stockholders?!
>>727827514>a gay kike keep making things worse and worse for everyone(not the 1%)i am in Hell or a simulation
>>727832173>>727827978sam looks like hes melting
Ai the best thing happened to mankindSoon we all be jobfree and enjoy making art 24/7 without having to waste years grinding
>>727829608>his name is [german name]>he must be a jew! Why are you Americans like this?
>>727830194>worthless retard worshiping computer software and sucking Jewish billionaire dick calling you a freak you will get the rope one day
>>727827514gonna start praying to god he develops a berry aneurysm in his brain and dies mid sentence on camera like that indian dude on tv many many years ago
>>727827514He needs to get Luigi'd
>>727832262kek reminds me of someone I talked to a while ago saying "you wouldn't give a drill to a child" which he later admitted was dumb because he'd never used one lol. I think we were talking about how AI in the hands of common people or something.But yeah, any time you have AI go schizo and give you bad information, it's your fault. It's a fucking computer program.
>>727831384Cumksin
>>727829608Does being a scammer come with being called Sam Fried?
>>727827514(((Open)))AI
>>727832721bankman(lol) is fat but altman looks bloated af and isnt fat
>>727832659DO NOT REDEEM
>contribute nothing to open source project beyond initial capital>when you finally have a working product immediately close source it>elect yourself as face and gatekeeper of said productJust jew things
>>727832376No this is just how it's been the last 3000 years.
>>727831364le epic twitter ironic weeb "fartist"
>ACTUALLY makes pc gaming prohibitively expensive
>>727830356Those are moderate positions. Neo Nazism is extreme.
>>727827514
>>727827514that thing is an ugly inbred kike
>>727832506>having to waste yearsSo you don't really like making art? Cause if you did that'd be a positive.
>>727830169>tax dollars Almost all of the AI bubble funding cones from money printing/central banking yet /v/ never mentions that
>>727829897Anon, nobody from those creatures has any political views; they just amplify the current thing. Like, who cares about dei and esg score anymore? Who cares about saving the environment?
>>727831241Gpt 3 came out when biden is in office. The AI grift has been going on for 3+ years. Nobody in office is going to stop it.Trump is an old tech illiterate boomer who thinks more AI investment = more jobs, not data centers staffed by ten people max and jacking up electricity prices
>>727830194AI clearly is the future but AI is in a bubble
>>727830494>capitalism is when extreme government control of the economyLMAO
>>727827514Play old games.
>>727832960Why do you bootlickers advocate killing the symptom(CEOs) but not the problem(government)?It's because you support the problem.
>>727831019I read an anecdote recently where someone who claimed to work at a boutique food producer would sometimes have rich people try to buy the entire run of something just so nobody else would be able to have any. Maybe rich people are all mentally ill and should be subdued with SSRIs and antipsychotics.
>>727833331>getting mad at fake stories
>>727833261The current government is fine. Feel free to go headhunting democrats if you'd like though.
>>727827568>Early LifeWhat did Wikipedia mean by that?
>>727832579If society was so advanced before the flood, why didn't they just wait it out in submersible arcologies or space :/
The future of society > cheap ram for gaymes
>>727827568What's the connection between that and treating human beings like cattle?
Not my problem, I got 32GB of DDR5 when it was still cheap.
>>727832376Stop noticing please.Wait for UBI. It's almost ready.
You of the "master race" had this coming for such an unspeakably long time.No one was more responsible for this horseshit high graphics race than you lot. And that, all by itself, be enough.Fuck raytracing.Own this.
>>727833561>no see you need to let homosexual tranny billionaires have dominion over you because non-billionaire homosexual trannies dont like itPlease please pleasep lease ple3ase please please kill yourself and go back to hell where you came from.
>>727833418It really happened, and even if it didn't, they should still be force-fed prescription meds.
>>727833653>consolenigger is so retarded he thinks consoles dont use ram, storage or graphics chips
>>727833616two more weeks
>only personal computers use flash memory
>>727830194>20 more trillions until we reach AGI
>>727833460> the central bank and government printing tens of trillions of dollars to pump up an unsustainable AI bubble while devaluing our wages and savings is a good thing
>>727832579Interesting, I don't see the Sea Peoples in this graph.Hint: they can't be seen in the graph, the same way you can't seem them in the present.They are at work every there is a collapse in the scientific advancement axis.Source: Youtube.
>>727828090this bubble won't last a full decade
>>727833663AI is a white conservative man's field, dilate.
>>727827514>will leave everyone else holding the bag when it goes belly up and keep all his fortune facing zero consequencesWhat a world
>>727833703Consoles bought in bulk. Our prices won't be affected like yours will. At least not for quite some time.But that's a different argument. You fa-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaaggots forever shat on us for not being as cutting edge as you. The Crysis meme, was a PC meme.Fuck highpoly. And fuck you.
>>727827514>Obscenely rich>Can't afford to brush his hairWhat's the point?
>>727833674All socialists deserve to be drowned.
>>727833810It's unreal someone could be this retarded and delusional.
>>727833806it's a brown Indian field saar and you VILL be replaced
>>727833828And yet you live in a society, curious.I am very smart.
>>727833828I'm OK with both
>>727833821>What's the point?More like "so rich you can give zero fucks about certain societal expectations". If I appear on my job wearing sandals or a t-shirt someone will quickly have a "conversation with me". I only wish I could say fuck off to that.
Prices for ram will continue to decline just as they have done for 50 yearsSmall upticks in price are not worth taking about because the price will just fall again in a year or so
>>727833880I'm right.Your boilerplate response does not impress me.
>>727833806Yeah? What's your job in the AI field exactly?
>>727833524>why didn't they just wait it out in submersible arcologies or space :/Who do you think came down from the sky in "chariots of fire" and took enoch "to the heavens"?
Why come he's still alive?
>>727833890You wish ranjeet, keep using the shitty free models we allow you to.
>>727833912But it's a professional photo shoot, not some random picture taken on the side of the road. He's dressed in a business suit and tie. Why would you not brush your hair?
>>727831384
>>727833925You don't even know what you're saying. Consoles are "bought in bulk"? You sound like an actual nigger who thinks PC players use "cheat codes" to stomp you.
>>727833924Yeah just like GPUs haha.
>>727829851Government will keep feeding these companies with bailout and investment until it realized
>>727833924>Prices for ram will continue to decline just as they have done for 50 yearsBetween AI data centers and phones being designed to only last a year or two, we're experiencing shortages of materials that we've never seen before.
>>727833821He's just like you or me :)Captcha: HAVRS
>>727833980
>>727833998The console manufacturers, they bought ram in bulk.
Don't worry xisters, all this will stop in 2 weeks!
>>727827568>>727828009>>727828606Are there any gentiles in his position you consider a positive influence?
>>727834062Nope.The man only said 'saar'That was his whole post.Your meme is shit and inapplicable.
>>727834064you think they bought 5+ years worth of ram at once?
>>727834110What mater bitch you mad that even Indian make more money than you smarter than you huh bitch?
>>727834110https://i.4cdn.org/v/1765177798978867.png
>>727834162
>>727833806that's right saar, AI white men tech
>>727834186
>>727834151Ya.
>>727834116good morning to you too saar
>>727834004Yes?>>727834027It will do away when this government intervention created AI bubble pops
>>727834230
>>727834235See above.
>every smart white man is pro ai>studies show lgbt+ people hate ai>prajeet can't afford 200 dollars/month for a frontier modelreally makes the noggin joggin
>>727834232You're probably one of those people who think electricity is just a naturally occurring element that you can just tap into like magic via the magic wall hole.
>>727834241>It will go away when this government intervention created AI bubble popsYou say that like it will be allowed to pop and won't be subsidized by tax dollars, right now AI companies passing loans back and forth between each other is the only thing stopping the economy from being officially in a recession, and they're not gonna let it fail so people can see just how bad the situation is outside of the AI bubble
>Government creates AI bubble by printing tens of trillions of dollars out of thin air which artificially bids up prices for ram>retards blame tech companies for doing something with this free money instead of the government intervention which caused the problem
>>727833806all the actual important players in the ml engineer space are chaiwanese actually
>>727834281Yeah I'm probably that. Well-sleuthed, arthurian incubus.
>>727834241>Yes?Can you remind me how much did a top end GPU cost 10 years ago? 15 years ago? 20? Was it $3000 like the RTX5090 right now? Oh now wait they should've cost even more since the prices are falling right?
>>727834276>He doesn't knowSweet summer child
>>727834272Oh I'm seeing alright. >>727834062
>>727829619>>727829736>>727829897
>>727834303>tax dollarsLMFAOThey just print the moneyThat's the fucking problem>and they're not gonna let it failThey're going to have no choice soon, the US dollar is collapsing and losing its reserve status
>>727834337>nooo the scrappy widdle billionaires who paid the goverment the thing they're profiting from had noting to do with it they're just trying to survive Kill yourself reptilian
>>727827514Oh no, now all the dumb turd worlders won't be able to play PC games with methe horror
>>727834401See further above.
>>727827514Scam Waltman Systems or a cat and 15 minutes? Or a PC...>>727834276Hintbot: Best AI hit is "no plaice for raice"; don't think all the racial differences and the fun that goes along with them will survive with syntha-Mark AI pumping out the wordlets..
>>727834276ChatGPT is free in jeetland
>Subsidizing the future is le badI hope you realize no matter who wins next election it will keep going, both wings support AI. Luddites are the leftovers with no home to call their own.
>>727834420>strawmanLMAO you literally bootlick central banks and billionairesMoney printing is left wrong economic policy.It's funny that your ideology creates the billionaires you claim to hate so much
>>727830710>BRO THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT WON'T EXIST IN 20 YEARS BRO
>>727834473Chat GPT GO, aka the most retarded model of gpt that exists, all frontier models are 100-200+ per month. If you are going to be against something at least do your homework.
>>727834481I hate luddites but I hate you big government money printing authoritarians more
>>727827514Leading figure of ai and barely 2bln worth. What's profitability?
Waste of potential future. Internet is mostly bots now and increasing. This thread alone is probably AI generated comments, i'm done with technology, fuck billionaires.
>>727834495What's with retarded niggers saying strawman when they dont know what it means?
>>727834580>fuck billionaires.Yet you support central banking and printing tens of trillions of dollars which created billionaires and the AI bubble in the first place
>>727834620You did strawman though.I never implied the billionaires were poor victims of something. Just that they are the symptom, not the cause of our problems
>>727834418>They're going to have no choice soon, the US dollar is collapsing and losing its reserve statusAnd if the AI bubble pops it collapses even faster, its too late man,
>>727834717Yeah so just relax and enjoy the declineI hope you bought gold, silver and mining stocks.
>>727834580Go live in woods luddite
>>727827514he looks like the offspring of the Bogdanoff brothers
>>727827568>gay Jew who raped his sister
>>727834685They quite literally caused the problem you absolute fucking retard.
>>727828103It’s to FOMO the government for taxpayer money by telling them China is doing the same thing
>>727834762>I hope you bought gold, silver and mining stocks.Nope I'm a millennial, I never had a chance to invest in anything cause I've never been able to get a job that isn't just a shitty temporary gig. I have no wealthy family members either, all of the boomer wealth in the family is being wasted on the generation before me. I was simply born into a cursed time period where I never had a chance to get out of poverty.
>>727829137Drumpf said tariffs would automatically make this happen. But nothing happened.Honestly need to let Chinese manufacturers sell here to increase competition
>>727828103>Reminder that this retard's whole business strategy is to turn a next-word prediction program into a self-aware computerNo you don't understand this time the chat bot is MAGIC! We're calling it AI now so that means that logically it will only get closer to science fiction AI, because why else would we name it that?
>>727834406Left, right, it doesn't matter.Who's top, who's bottom.How many are on top, how many are on the bottom.Analyze that.Then you'll realize the 1% deserves to be on top, because 1% > 99%Basic maths.
>>727834928>Drumpf said tariffs would automatically make this happen. But nothing happened.because theres no infrastructure to build factories that fast like china has. USA would have to at best try retrofitting old factories (look into how well that worked out for brazil in the 60s) You have to build the infrastructure and raise people out of poverty and give basic universal social welfare first if you actually want to do that. Instead they're just looking the country and turning it into india.
>>727834828Who gave them unlimited free money to do this, you fucking moron?
>>727834928why the fuck would you think america is capable of creating new factories kek
>>727830309Consumer AI is useless because everything goes through a schizo leftist filter which hallucinates everything as a right-wing dog whistle and then gives you a tranny lectureThe only way to get uncensored versions is to use the API (which costs money on a per token basis)
>>727835078The people they paid to.
>>727834865>taxpayerIt's just printed money out of thin airIt doesn't come from taxes
>>727827568
>>727835117Sooooo the government using central banks? So the government is the source of the problem?Reminder that billionaires wouldn't exist if the federal reserve didn't exist.
>>727834082Not really since they don't allow anyone other than members of the tribe to get into positions like that.
>>727834928Your seething so hard it funny
>>727835167oh youre one of those extra retarded niggers
>>727833603>What's the connection between 2+2 and 4?
>>727834546I'll let you know something from someone in the shitty IT industry.Claude Max, even with all the tinkering and automation by an engineer that has 20 years more experience than me could not make a simply eCommerce integration work (braindead for a human).I had to fix all the hallucinated code mistakes one by one, truly one of the best frontier models. Computation and time wasted for nothing.Yes, it will get better, but the current paradigm of fucking nuking codebases without human interaction is not the right one.
>>727835165>tfw I've gotten to the point where I can sniff out Zionist psyops from a mile away and I already know it was them before any news or confirmations come out
>>727835241I just think it's funny some people will simp for them even though they literally seek dominion over everyone and see humanity the way a normal person thinks about where mcdonalds gets its meat from
>>727835167Rockefeller retired before the federal reserve even existed
>>727835273>I had to fix all the hallucinated code mistakes one by one, truly one of the best frontier models. Computation and time wasted for nothing.Just look at it this way, now you get paid for 50 hours to make something that would have only taken 5 hours before AI, you're earning 10 times as much money per job now thanks to AI!
>>7278353041, 2, 7, 3, down to Rockefeller Street
>muh billionaires!Do commies really think their beloved gubmint would care about the plebs getting components for their fancy toys? Fuck no. Everyone has decided that winning the AI race is the ultimate priority for everything including national security. Why would they give two shits about your niche requirements?
>>727827978>Why does the lizard alien imposter not look perfectly like a human?Gee, I'unno.
>>727835220Why are you so mad at the truth?You support central banking then get mad when the tens of trillions of dollars printed or of thin air creates billionaires while inflation destroys living standards for the working class.You wanted this to happen.
>>727827514> Politically correct gaming
>>727835273see>>727832208
>>727827514Altman be praised!
>>727834082They don't call them shabbos goy for nothing.
>>727835304>RockefellerRockefeller existed when there was no central banking and a deflationary economy.His business managed to lower prices for goods by like 90%, which massively benefited consumers(the working class)Real wages for workers doubled in the decades of his career.Compare that to today where billionaires get endless free money to waste on unsustainable projects that lower wages for workers through inflation.Abolish central bankingEND THE FED
>>727835304He wasn't a billionaire though
>>727829632Which one?
>>727835337>Do commies really think their beloved gubmint would care about the plebs getting components for their fancy toys?its funny that people are called "communists" for talking about shit like "taxing billionaires fairly" even though this is the kind of thing that resulted in what most people consider the "golden age of capitalism"Capitalism only started going to absolute shit, and everyones quality of life started rapidly declining when millionaires started convincing poor people to fight against their own interests through propaganda.If you think the government regulating the market is communism, then all of the best years of capitalism were actually communism, and this means that capitalism has literally always been a shit system and communism was actually the right choice all along. You can't point to any era of capitalism where shit wasn't exclusively getting worse without pointing to an era where the regulations would be called "communist socialist propaganda"
>>727835337How does one "win" the AI race exactly?
>>727830828(Based) Left vs alternate leftRight vs alternate right (based)Very simple
>>727835634>How does one "win" the AI race exactly?Being the first person to make it actually profitable and useful instead of a massive money sink that isn't particularly good at doing anything aside from image diffusion shit and being a chat bot even though we already had chatbots like 20 years ago.
>if you do not support some gay jew's business venture backed by globohomo corps you are a leftist tranny saarsPajeet grifters aren't sending their best.
>>727835325True, but hopefully AI gets better, it's good for me, but not for hummanity as a whole.It's a waste of hardware resources, it could be doing number crunching to cure autism or some shit.
>>727835634Same way Microsoft won the OS race. Have the model that everything else is based on.
>>727835576A percentage tax is inherently unfair, it should be flat, say everyone pays $100 a month.
I'll just use my 1660S unitl it drops dead.
>>727835576>most people consider the "golden age of capitalismLMAO we are further from free market capitalism than any point in American history.You can't have capitalism when the government/central bank prints tens of trillions of dollars out of thin air which creates unsustainable AI bubbles and devalues the wages and savings of the working class.What we need is a free market again, pop the AI bubble, allow prices to come down, we need real economic production again, not financial bubbles.
>>727835730About that...
>>727827978Because his face is projecting two seperate emotions. Cover the right side of his face then try covering the left.
>>727835634Give us a $100bn bailout RIGHT NOW or else China will wint. Altman and Jensen
>>727835576Your image is widely misleading.Look up marginal tax rates vs effective rates.The rich paid roughly the same amount of tax back then as they do now.The main driver of their wealth, and what created the inequality is the money printing
>>727827568>literal gay manlet jew
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>>727835576>muh regulations>muh taxesThe government is long past the point of limiting it's market meddling to just that. 2008 bailouts were a horrid turning point when shit companies were declared too big to fail and bailed out with taxpayer money.
>>727832631cgpt lies constantly, you have to hand-hold it and ask for sources every step of the wayi can't even remember how many times i asked it a basic question, it sounded weird, I questioned it and it basically replied with "yeah, I made that up, here's a source saying the exact opposite"LLMs are programmed first and foremost to give you AN answer, they will never ever tell you "idk" and they don't always search the web when they don't already have that specific information cached
AI Chads won, I kneel.
>>727835925The newer models with thinking rarely do that anymoreI know what you mean though, the older models were frustrating
Has AI actually made ANYTHING better? Seems like all it's done is make google and youtube algorithm shittier.
>>727833524the flood was both literal and metaphorical
>>727835360But I'm the third person, I'm watching the (You) use the hammer incorrectly and I don't have any power to stop it because of some weird thing called "seniority".Then I have to fix the mess made with the hammer.
>>727836005The scientific research it's done is quite impressive.Protein folding has basically been solved.It's going to find a bunch of new advanced drugs too
>>727836005The engineers of the world had literally zero time to actually build things. So far AI is in the hands of researchers. The bubble needs to pop so we can get some neat things out from it.
>>727835925>you have to hand-hold it and ask for sources every step of the wayKeep in mind that you also need to verify these sources, because Chat GPT will just invent URLs to articles that don't exist because it decides that it looks like a URL that would exist. Even if you ask for sources, it will just hallucinate most of them.
>>727835634Government and tech jews want to control AI for skynet, manufactured super viruses, and robocops to enslave or kill humanity.Nvidia, China, and most open source people just want Futurama or something like utopia. They see the long game leading to Star Trek and are working together to get there.Meta and Microsoft want it to control the infrastructure of the future. It's sort of like the internet 2.0 in that regard. They're frantically trying to participate in the race, doing all kinds of retarded shit in the process.Google is really weird, on one hand they are aligned with Nvidia and the open source gods but on the other hand they are probably government tech jews, and on the third hand they're in competition with Meta and Microsoft. It's hard to tell what they're doing but they're going to win generally.
>>727836054>it will just hallucinate most of them.It doesn't do that anymoreI get proper links like 99% of the time now using the thinking model
>>727836005>Has AI actually made ANYTHING better?Its made life better for advertising agencies that don't need to pay graphic designers or film crews/CGI studios to make their commercials anymore, but aside from making life better for people that don't have to spend money hiring other people anymore, I don't think so
>>727834276>young people need to "stop reading articles about AI", Newell says in our new article about AIkek, reminds me of the IGN warren spector quote
>>727827514>Your head would look good on the end of a pole (WAR)
>>727836079If I have to choose which cyber hell future I live in I'd much rather the shitty soulless Chinese one instead of the actively evil United States of Israel one.
>>727836005made things better for Corporations and rich fags, not for average person
>>727836116I use LLMs daily for productivity and its helped me greatly
>>727827514based faggot making the chuddies seethe
>>727835273>Yes, it will get betterIt won't. Not at the current pace. Jeets are delusional. Unless we have a completely new approach to ML, "AI" won't develop past a chatbot that sometimes makes sense.Think about it this way. They have already scraped entire internet, all of the books that ever existed, correspondence of millions of social network users, billions of lines of code, everything they had. And LLMs still have nothing resembling intelligence. They will always make dumb mistakes and hallucinate bullshit, because they don't have inner understanding of what they are really doing. It's all statistical noise.They need a completely novel approach to AI. If the best new tech they could show this year was brainrot generator app, you know they are fucked. They are just trying anything to create some more artificial hype to pump the bubble some more.
>>7278359975.1 still does it regularly, what are you on aboutit happens less than it used to a few years ago, but I honestly can't tell whether that's because it's smarter or I've gotten better at being extremely specific and hand-holdy despite being a machine with instant access to the entire internet it often just chooses not to utilize that capability and instead invents nonsense
>>727836156>t. Never used a modern LLMYou're missing out
>>727836005I can proompt custom porn now so it's done a lot for me.Also, ChatGPT is better than google for 90% of use cases.
AI is based, keep seething leftists trannies
>>727836151I dislike the US as much as the next hater, but in the US at least you have a semblance of a democracy. Good luck with that on China. They roll over your house to build a road, you ask where's my house and they say "what house?". China has little legal apparatus.
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>>727836151>>727836079To be clear this is just me saying why various groups want AI. Once we have AI it's not like one company will just do everything or whatever. The world will still be big even if we have "billions of digital people doing stuff" like they daydream about. Most people won't want to work with clankers and other companies will have their own clankers and AIs doing stuff too. The general standard of living will probably go up in first world countries since UBI will be inevitable.
Some tranny bitched about AI, uh therefore, AI good! I love the internet being a hellscape!
>>727836005It revolutionized pornography. The commercial element has been totally rugpulled out from under commissioners and onlyfans whores, they've had their industry destroyed practically overnight and it gets worse for them by the day. It's moving toward a world where the only people producing porn are doing it for fun and personal enjoyment which is how it ought to be.General media always follows in the footsteps of pornographic media when it comes to tech adoption, so I predict all audiovisual media will go this way eventually. The mass commercial value of music, movies, shows, anime, comics, etc. will utterly collapse leaving only soulful hobby projects and personal passion work behind. Streaming services will wither and become something for old people, and unlike cable they won't be replaced with anything.
>>727836204For medical things or programming questions it's quite good and finds me loads of information I didn't know about
>>727836284Eminent domain is a thing in the US bro
>>727836284I don't actually give a fuck about democracy because it just results in the most sociopathic assholes re-writing the rules. At least with communism people aren't going to be tricked into getting angry at each other for voting for the wrong ghoulish sociopath
>>727836284>but in the US at least you have a semblance of a democracy.Maybe in small pockets that actually stand up to the government (ironically, mostly blue stats) instead of just rolling over. But that'll get eroded away in the future and I doubt the US is going to fucking balkanize or whatever.
>>727836284>They roll over your house to build a road, you ask where's my house and they say "what house?"This happens all the time in North America though, if they wanna build a highway and your house is in the way your only real option is to sell your house to them or go eat shit because either way your house is coming down and you're losing that land to the new highway.
>>727836356nigger just because you jerk off to slop doesn't mean everyone else is just as tasteless
>>727827514well i guess thank god me and my wife make a combined 200k a year. you faggots can fucking go to hell, this is your punishment for being so morally bankrupt.
Raise your hand if you don't use AI at all in your average day to day life
>>727836194>Jeets are delusionalSorry, I'm now a jew.I understand why you think AI doesn't have inner understanding, but you can make the inner understanding yourself.You can use all the recorded knowledge compressed in the existing models on a workflow tailored for your needs (you need to have conscience to do this).Try this and be surprised how powerful LLMs used as tools can be:https://docs.n8n.io/integrations/builtin/cluster-nodes/
>>727828697I think the AI bubble will pop by then and we'll probably be dealing with other economic issues.
>>727836194>Think about it this way. They have already scraped entire internet, all of the books that ever existed, correspondence of millions of social network users, billions of lines of code, everything they had. And LLMs still have nothing resembling intelligence. They will always make dumb mistakes and hallucinate bullshit, because they don't have inner understanding of what they are really doing. It's all statistical noise.And now they're training them on data poisoned by other shitty AIs too!These LLMs were probably the best they were ever gonna get before they were available to the public and jeets started using AI to flood the internet with garbage posts and fake blogs.
>>727836356>The mass commercial value of music, movies, shows, anime, comics, etc. will utterly collapse leaving only soulful hobby projects and personal passion work behind.I disagree, most people are just vacuous consumers and have not a creative bone in their body, even if you barely have to use your brain for prompting.Plus, a large part of music and film/series is celebrity worship/gossip. You don't have that with AI.
>>727836534I generate anime girls and sometimes use it for information
>>727836602Yeah like the collapse of the US dollar.America will be a third world country in my lifetime.
>>727836548Not himBut interestingTell me moreWhat can these plug in do
>>727836194>It won't. It will>Not at the current pace. And it will keep getting faster better. There were tremendous research gains this year so next year's models will be even better.People like you are so fucking stupid too. You see a model being right about something 80% of the time and think the 20% failure rate is a deal breaker, ignoring how it's right 80% of the time. You're so stupid.
>>727836471Honestly AI slop isn't that much worse than Hollywood slop anyway, the only good shit coming out these days is already from small teams of hobbyists making passion projects, all major studios have become slop factories that haven't made anything decent in over 20 years.
>>727827514upgraded my shit the second Donny pulled that little fake blood in the ear gagNot difficult to stay ahead when you realize the world is run by peter principled idiots
>>727836548>I understand why you think AI doesn't have inner understanding, but you can make the inner understanding yourself.Yes, by not using LLMs.I've been working as a software dev for 10+ years and tried using AI and it's dumb as rocks and always breaks and ruins codebase. There wasn't a single time it was helpful beyond generating a small script.I'm not tard wrangling hallucination machine. I have junior devs for that and they don't break shit and actually become better with time.
>>727836745>I'm not tard wrangling hallucination machine. I have junior devs for that and they don't break shit and actually become better with time.This, AI is basically only going to hurt younger generations because the only thing it can actually replace is unpaid/underpaid interns trying to get a foot in the door by doing shitty grunt work.
>>727827568if you needed to check the early life on this guy, you've still got work to do
>>727836702>People like you are so fucking stupid too. You see a model being right about something 80% of the time and think the 20% failure rate is a deal breakerWhat an arrogant midwit, god.First, 20% failure rate is fucking terrible for anything.Second, in any complex task such as coding anything bigger that a small demo app, AI's failure rate is 100%.
>>727835634By making technology that can totally replace labor, winning the historic battle between labor and capital once and for all, and overcoming the global crisis of demographic collapse without resorting to suicidal mass migration.Right now they're only replacing bullshit jobs, western "thought workers" with LLMs that can already read and write emails, which is 90% of their job. They're in the process of replacing "knowledge workers" whose job is essentially to have knowledge and apply it, but don't do any physical work. The future goal is replacing even physical labor with robots using machine vision, replacing service workers and menial servants with equivalent automated solutions, augmenting/replacing police and military with easily controlled machines, etc.Ideally, this continues until there's pretty much no "working jobs" left and so the working class is rendered almost totally worthless. As the value of labor drops like a rock the former labor class either becomes slaves engaged in personal servitude or other cases where a human is needed, or they're rescued into the new system and become "middle class" cattle living on gibs who exist to consent to the new economy with their votes so everything remains stable.If that works, in the long run, the population drops due to collapsed birth rates and the labor class gradually ceases to exist. Only a small slavelike underclass remains sort of like untouchables, they'd pretty much exist only as a social need because humans have the desire to be superior to other humans.As a general rule, if you want to guess how the future will turn out, remember that historically during periods of stability, wealth always concentrates to the maximum extent possible, and only massive calamities like plague, revolution, and world wars ever reverse that trend.
>>727836745>tried using AI and it's dumb as rocks and always breaks and ruins codebase. There wasn't a single time it was helpful beyond generating a small script.
>>727836874You're proving my point, thanks.
>>727836902Economic illiterates like you belong on a cross.Mass automation will result in massive price declines for goods and services.This means you only need to work 4 hours a week to have an amazing life.New jobs will be created as always
Lotta Israeli IPs seething itt
>>727837003>Mass automation will result in massive price declines for goods and services.But that would make the line go down, and thats unacceptable. Line MUST go up, line can ONLY go up
>>727836902Found the warmonger (or communist revolutionary) jew (affectionate) /v/ gamer.
>>727837003>Mass automation will result in massive price declines for goods and services.Dyrbi
>>727837003I can't believe I share a board with retards who unironically support bringing back feudalism.
>>727837003>Mass automation will result in massive price declines for goods and servicesOnly if there's enough competition, and that depends on a whole lot of factors.
>>727837124The other day I saw unironic mining propaganda when I was doomscrolling at work.
>>727837045It's not up to themAutomation forces prices down, literally every time>>727837124>LOWER WORKING HOURS AND MORE PAY IS LITERALLY FEUDALISMLmao
>>727837185>LOWER WORKING HOURS AND MORE PAY IS LITERALLY FEUDALISMI mean, yeah feudal peasants worked fewer hours and generated more wealth for their work than we currently do today
You don't need a PC. You can rent one from GeForce Now. You will be happy.
>>727837172Even if there wasn't competition. A large company can gain a LOT of market share by rapidly lowering prices. They also can easily do this due to economies of scale
>piracy is le good>ai is le badmake up your mind, /v/. both are inherently economic terrorism.
>>727837003So far ive i only seen worse digital products with increasing price tags, in a domain where AI is supposed to do best
>>727837185>It's not up to themLol>Automation forces prices down, literally every timeLmao even, go ask the automobile industry
>>727836962No, I've disproven it, you are just too retarded to comprehend you got btfo'd.We are not in 2019 anymore, it's not impressive when a computer gives you a sensible answer 80% of the time. It's okay if you just use it as a chatbot. I get that low IQ jeets are still amazed that a computer can talk to them.But if you actually used AI for a real job you'd realize how terrible it is. Your point is shit, because you are easily impressed and have no idea how infinitely smarter AI needs to be to be really useful. You see some progress and think more progress will follow, because that's how midwit's mind operates. I see progress and think "holy shit now they are going to need something groundbreaking for more progress", because I know what I am talking about.
>>727837235>yeah feudal peasants worked fewer hoursWhy does this myth keep getting spread across by low IQ bootlicking luddites?The paper that made that claim has been refuted by countless papers since
>>727837003>Mass automationThis shit can barely gen hands without a billion addons stillThey're working on animation, advertising and digital asset generationYou won't see automation until the end of your lifetime
>>727837185They're going to strip you of all your benefits for slightly higher welfare payments. This was Yang's original proposal to pay for UBI.
>>727837003Ram production is automated so why is the price ballooning?
>>727837274That's becauseAutomation hasn't kicked in yetThe government is printing and spending trillions of dollars, preventing price declines>>727837275>LolLol read a history book
>>727837124lol moldbug has been shilled on /lit/ and /pol/ for ages
>>727832579Where does the tower of babel fit into in this timeline.
>>727837259LOL NO? you dont inflict damage on corpo by pirating.
>>727837346Automation has been a thing for decades before LLM's my cow shit gargling friend. It's just that it was simply referred to by mroe technical terms such as "robots" before corpos switched to the term "AI" to impress clueless idiots like you.
>>727837003>This means you only need to work 4 hours a week to have an amazing life.ah yes, I remember when they told us that last time.
>>727833810Honestly in this era of hyper-inflation the prices of entertainment products should be lowered in order for the masses to buy it. The shareholders are acting like games are some mandatory life essential. I can pirate all the games I want.
>>727837003>Mass automation will result in massive price declines for goods and services.True, but where do the massive price declines for goods and services come from? From a collapse in the price of labor. Labor is always the most expensive component, that's why they're willing to spend trillions on a gamble to replace it. Everything under the umbrella of "AI" is labor-saving technology.You can't just "create new jobs" that cost as much to sustain as the old jobs, that's expensive labor which defeats the purpose of the technology employed to save it. You say "as always" but historically the new jobs that were created in the wake of labor-saving technology were further and further removed from physical work, becoming more based on knowledge or thinking rather than hard labor. This is because the nature of the labor-saving technology was physical. Machines could move but not speak. They could card wool and weave cloth, but not design a scarf or come up with a slogan to sell it. Now they can speak and write and mimic a train of thought. In research contexts they can even see, hear, and employ cognition to complete real world tasks. What unique ability, then, is left for the human to sell as valuable labor?Only the fact that they are human, i.e. occupying a social role that satisfies other humans' social needs by their role as a fellow human. For the poor this means occupying a space of perpetual inferiority, for the middle class this means acting as a rubber stamp in a pretense of political participation, for the wealthy this means occupying leadership roles and deriving satisfaction from being above other humans, and competing with one another in games of superiority. That's really it, that's all that's left.
>>727837259>piracy is le goodPirated game has better frametimes than DRM locked game.>ai is le badThing built by AI is not better than thing built by humans.As simple as that.
Don't trust the word or narrative of billionaire techbros who have said they don't care if the human race lives or dies. I can't believe this even needs to be said.
>>727837446Who they? You mean the labor movement? Yes they stuff like that from time to time.
>>727833950>The argead sunHolly shit, did Macedonians invent spaceships?
>>727837504Nah you don't understand we'll like, use AI to create our own movies and games and shit and become entrepreneurs by selling(?) our works to other consumers who would be happy to pay for a product that they themselves can make for free.
>>727837578B-but it might own the libs epic style!
>>727837578They have a different definition of human race.See Evangelion SEELE assholes.
AI techbro sissies are having a meltdown again, how quaint.
>>727837608desu I just went with that image cause google images fucking sucks now and I couldn't find anything else that wasn't a blown up thumbnail or a webp
>>727830194What is "AI" in this context?Its certainly not artificial intelligence.Its just a marketing campaign retard.
>>727837290>6 years is a long timelooks like you're a zoomer too
>>727837443>Automation has been a thing for decadesTo a minimal extent, yes. That's why consumer electronics got so much.Advanced robots and AI will turbo charge it though.>>727837446Lol the hours are going down thoughThey would be going down even more if the government wasn't devaluing the currency>>727837504There are still going to be plenty of jobs robots can't do.Since people who have these jobs only need to work 4 hours a week, this opens more working hours for other people>>727837713Luddites are chud manchildren, filled with irrational hate
>>727837578Why do you think they're pursuing this automation?They want to create a world of abundance for humanity and its exactly what they are doing
>>727832208>lmao you used a question answering machine to answer a question for you and it gave you a retarded answer, you must feel so stupid
>>727837784>to a minimal extentThe industrial revolution was minimal was it?Idiot
>>727837606The labor movement did absolutely nothing to reduce working hours.Capital investment and mass production is what did that.You people are in a religious cult
>Boughted 4070ti last year shortly before tariffscare>Got gifted 32GB DDR4 from uncle around the same time>Have 8GBs of DDR5 in old pc Hadnt installed ANY of these for the year i've had them because there are no AAA games worth playing kek.
>>727837713what did you expect from aislop thread in peak pajeet hours?
>>727832886>>727828179Why does this guy make people seethe so much?
>>727837832I thought you were talking about the last 50 years.Also yes the industrial revolution radically reduced prices and increased living standards for workers.I can't wait for the next one
AI frens can't stop winningIt's hilarious how literally everyone irrationally hates us.We will be proven right in the end.
>>727837932jewish btw
Why do luddites want to take us back to the stone age and force is to work 80 hour weeks of backbreaking primative labor?
>>727837828>you used a question answering machineThis is your problem, you don't know what it is.
>>727837969You lost
>>727837003USSR vision of the future was full automation of manual labor so that any demand for basic goods or services is supplied by robots and the people can have more time for pursuit of knowledge, science and arts.Current capitalistic vision we are following and celebrating now is full automation of any creative or intellectual job and forcing millions of people to compete for low paying manual labor, where every wish and whim of lizard brained sociopathic billionaires is engineered and managed by AI and done by hordes of cheap slaves who work for food.
>>727838012trans btw
>>727838002
>>727832536Shalom!
>>727838002If it's not a question answering machine then why is it answering questions?
>>727837782Neural networks have been progressing since 80s. In fact I learned ML in early 2010s.
>>727838002Neither do you, which is why you stick to smarmy criticisms instead of making a positive statement that can be criticized in its own right
>PC gamingsince when do consoles not have RAM and gpus?
>>727838030So what?You cant change it in any way. Commie, capitalist or satanist-globslist. We're all just along for the ride
>>727838030The ussr never even got remotely close to that, the west had more leisure time and higher incomes.Our current world, with the advances in automation will radically reduce working hours across the board while lowering prices so real incomes increase
When will Ai replace me in the workplace so that I may Neet out without judgement from my family
>>727838031Yes, and?
>>727837895We already have automated forkhoists, machines that can do several processes in line with only a few operators at speeds double that of only a decade ago.The "next industrial revolution" was the invention of the diode.So fucking annoying hearing pampered twits talking about industry. You dont have a clue.
>>727827568>Early Lifee?
And all of it is to be blamed on a certain group of people.PC gaming would've been doing way better had it not been for that certain group of people.
He won
>>727838030What the fuck are you talking about?Do you see these humanoid robots being produced?The goal is to automate physical labor too.That's the big goal and its going to happen in your lifetime
>>727838030you're so fucking delusional
>>727837784>There are still going to be plenty of jobs robots can't do.Such as?Serious question, I want you to imagine a job that a human can do, of course for much more money than a machine would cost, but the hiring corporation in question hires humans anyway. What does that job look like?Another way to think about it. Let's replace "robot" with "third worlder" in this thought experiment. Is there any job companies prefer to hire expensive domestic labor for, if they can get away with it? Or do they outsource every single possible thing? And now that jobs are outsourced, do domestic workers only clock in 4 hours a day and get paid for 8? Did their wages go up or down relative to productivity, in the last thirty years of mass outsourcing and digitization? Now consider that machine and digital labor is even cheaper and more plentiful than third-worlders. What do you think will happen to wages as a result?
>>727838223We have some automation now applied to a few companies, it's not widespread.When humanoid robots become cheap enough and effective enough, they will be in every factory and prices for consumer goods will radical decline as they always do
>>727838259>Do you see these humanoid robots being produced?They are utter dogshit and barely progressed over the past 10 years. They only new selling point is adding LLMs to them (that are also dogshit).>The goal is to automate physical labor too.No it's not LOL you are beyond delusional. They are not pouring trillions into humanoid robots.They don't need them. Because they will have infinite supply of cheap manual labor when they are done with AI
>>727838259Why the fuck would you make humanoid robots for manual labour?Did you ever look at a fork hoist and think that would be better if it was 20 robot humans?Was the weaving machine a failure because it wasnt 2000 robot people weaving by hand.Honest to god you are so fucking stupid its not funny
>>727838030>>727837003It's the same thing.Also why do you retards believe that CEOS and companies will have a change of hearth and give people new jobs and global income? Are you retarded? They've been driven by pure greed, they killed the planet and society with greed. You people can't possibly be this fucking stupid. Jews only care for their own family and money, they don't care for other jews, you are a goy a fucking subhuman to them you are a slave.
>>727838332>Such as?If everything was 100% automated, prices would be zero and nobody would need a job anyway.The transition won't happen overnight so in the mean time there will will be a need for physical labor until complete automation
It's a large-scale wealth transfer, another one after the previous just got done. The tech surrounding it is a smokescreen, just like covid was before it. And just like covid, it'll be memoryholed as soon as the trade deals wrap up.
>>727838384Do you live in fucking cambodia?How would you even know in the first place you prissy faggot.Why dont you just take a moment to realize you have never been involved in the production of anything and dont know what you are talking about
>>727838419>They are utter dogshit and barely progressed over the past 10 years.So you haven't seen what's coming out of China?>They are not pouring trillions into humanoid robots.They fucking are lmao, that's one of the fastest growing industries.It's coming and you're going to seethe when it happens lol>>727838424>Why the fuck would you make humanoid robots for manual labour?Because it would be much cheaper than paying a human for 40 yearsYou people are manchildren
>>727838424Wow anon you are so smart. I wonder why they didn't automate all manual labor with non humanoid robots 50 years ago then? Hmm, really makes me thing. It's almost like the are millions of tasks that don't need super strong and specialized machine and just need a humanoid pair of hands. Hmmmmm.
>>727838449>Also why do you retards believe that CEOS and companies will have a change of hearth and give people new jobsBecause they're selfish and profit seeking?>>727838534> no argumentOkay lol
>Peter Thiel thread
>>727838540How the fuck is 20 robot people cheaper than one robot forkhoist. Which already exist and have done for well over a decade
>far less poors and brownsoh no... anything but that!
Luddites and economic illiterates are fucking retarded and angry.I'm so glad I never got those brain worms.They are going to be in a rude awakening the next 10 years lmao
>>727838424>Why the fuck would you make humanoid robots for manual labour?Because they easily adapt to human environments to directly replace labor. Obviously in the future you'd build factories and warehouses around 100% automation but the intermediate stage is humanoid robots replacing humanoids to work equipment and navigate buildings already built for humanoids.
>>727838634It's not?Specific types of robots will be applied to specific tasks.This isn't complicated.
>Luddites are in for a rude awakening! The bug pod dildo fucker 9000 is the FUTURE! Stop resisting, luddites!
Ok so realistically what could fix the current shitty way of things with win11 being ass, RAM skyrocketing in price, AAA games getting worse by the year, immigration and replacement of natives and the slow decline of the medical and education sectors pretty much across the entirety of the west.Would a big market crash suffice to wake our rulers up that shits fucked? Whenever we just killed the ruling class not much has changed. What would fix all of this?
>Le AI will usher in world where we barely dun need to work and everything will be paradiseKek, yeah sure. If that was the case you wouldn't get to be part of that world. It would be like imagining you would get to be part of the space colony.
>>727838551Such as???Once again you do not work in industry and dont have a clue what you are talking about
>>727838645Stop trying to talk sense to a brain damaged luddite economic illiterate.They will never learn.
>>727838637Anon... you are part of the poors in this context, and you won't be removed in the sense that you will be made non-poor.
BRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPP
>>727838581>Because they're selfish and profit seeking?New jobs such as? IT support so the AI won't freak out? The entire point of AI is automation, if the people can't buy the products then their prize doesn't really matter. The only ones that already got rich are the ones at the top, the only people that will see things as extremely cheap commodities are going to be the ones at the top, you are seeing it happen in real time.Capitalism is turning into Communism for jews
>>727838693They are applying these robots to industry, to lower consumer goods prices.What do you think that means?You absolute fucking moron
>>727838540>So you haven't seen what's coming out of China?I accurately described them already, are you illiterate? They are dogshit. They are only for show. We had bullshit like that pop up periodically for decades. None of these humanoid robots will be used for anything substantial aside from experiments that will fail.>They fucking are lmao, that's one of the fastest growing industries.You just saying words doesn't make them true. All the money are on AI and forcing people from intellectual high paying jobs into cheap manual labor. When that happens robots no one will need robots. It's as simple as that. You are just closing your eyes and ears and screeching like a child.>It's coming and you're going to seethe when it happens lolNo, I will be pleasantly surprised that we won't live in a dystopian tech feodalism. But chances are I am correct and you are wrong and retarded and you will see yourself working in mines for food in your lifetime.
>>727837860Chuddy knows what's up, he's just like me frfr
>>727838754>if the people can't buy the productBuy thet will as prices fall 95% and humans require less labor hours to thrive.Less labor hours being demanded from employers means more job openings
>>727838645What the fuck are you talking about.We have been continually automating industry since the industrial revolution.You create a need for less labour by making machines that are faster, work in line and require less operators.
>>727838645>warehouses around 100% automationNigger they already more or less do that.
Elon musk is going to personally fly to my AI built mansion in his ironman suit to deliver my UBI cheques every week and if you don't think so you're economically illiterate
>>727838758When? Right now it is just making everything worse.>omg le industry robotsYeah no robots in industry todsy lol, wtf kind of world do you think we live in.
>>727838770>are you illiterate?says the guy who cant complete a sentence without grammatical errors
>>727838770>dogshitYou are clueless but okay>When that happens robots no one will need robots.Why?They can get even more profits from the robots as well>dystopian tech feodalismLmao you historical and economic illiterates are mentally ill.Enjoy being irrationally angry at nothing for the rest of your life
>>727838832You gloss over it with "more or less" but that's the difference. There are still technically human beings there overseeing things and operating machines. And also working in corporate jobs which haven't been entirely replaced yet. Replacing all these paid human workers with machines is a massive cost savings for the owners and directly reaps the value of their labor as pure profit.
>>727838673They already do retard. They have done for a long time.AI is not relevent to automation. You can get a cheap automated vacuum cleaner right now
>>727838884>Right now it is just making everything worseBecause the government/central bank created this retarded AI bubble resulting in malinvestment like bidding up ram prices
>>727838809>Buy thet will as prices fall 95% and humans require less labor hours to thrive.Not gonna happen. People can't buy a small property anymore while Elon Musk is able to own an entire Nasa just because he wanted to have a new hobby. I don't think you understand how jews work, they don't see you as an equal, they don't see nature as an equal, everything and everyone serves the chosen people. Modern feudalism here we go bing bing wahoooo
>>727838909>AI is not relevent to automation.LMFAOYou leftists are basically flat earthers>>727838938>Not gonna happen.It happened every time there was a huge advance in automation applied to industry historicallyRead a book
>>727838868Also a tranny or something
>>727838820I don't know what you're trying to say, I agree with everything you said and everything you said agrees with what I'm sayingHumanoid robots are an intermediate form of labor-replacing technology which create a need for less labor, they just happen to be humanoid right now because it's more cost effective to make human shaped robots to replace humans than to rebuild all the existing infrastructure.
>>727838971We have had automation well before open AISmart kids in highschool were making robots with the xbox kinect.Mapping in 3D was the obstacle not self awareness.
>>727838758>They are applying these robots to industry, to lower consumer goods prices.No, you fool, they're doing it to lower production costs so they can increase their profits. Lowering the price on the consumer end of things would lower their profits which is bad. The current system we have right now is fucking retarded and forces businesses to run themselves into the ground and rapidly enshittify to chase profits every quarter.
>>727838971>>727839051Mention how AI democratized art to them and watch them do the same mental gymnastics.
>>727838886>Why?>They can get even more profits from the robots as wellAny robot is more expensive than billions of peasants who agree to work for anything, because they were forced out of all other fields and crushed job market.>Lmao you historical and economic illiteratesMore literate than you are, hence your lack of argumentation and sensless seething.
>>727839080>AI democratized artCan you explain what you mean by this? I don't understand how anyone was being prevented from creating art prior to AI.
>>727838991People are an intermediate form of labour idiot.Why would you ever have a machine operating a machine?Just make one machine
>>727827514dude looks like an insane personi'd cast him in a mad max movie as a maniac who throws snakes at people
>>7278378874chan has become filled with angry, bitter contrarians. Not to be confused with the angry bitter contrarians that have always been on /v/, mind you. These just hate anybody that has a modicum of an internet following.
>AI IS USELESS AND DOESN'T WORK>AI IS GOING TO HECKIN ENSLAVE US INTO TECHNO-FUEDALISMPick one and only one, luddies.
>>727838905Kek, do you have any idea of the grade of automation these warehouses have?
>>727834991lol
>>727839205>AI IS FUCKING GAYThere I chose one.
>>727839107da troons are physically preventing me from pirating Photoshop o algo
>>727839103They just buy second hand machines and poorer countries buy third hand machines. Pretty quickly shipping is more expensive than the machines themselves.
>>727839256Photoshop isn't even that good for drawing anyway, you're better off using the free version of Clip Studio or something actually made specifically for drawing. Or just buying some pens and paper for like $3
>>727839107You can make something more accessible even if it is accessible. The "pick up a pencil" troons literally cannot fathom this reality.
It's a massive waste of money and resources but in the end, the only people who will win are sillytavern gooners. And since I am one, keep the bubble building baby.
>>727839229Idk what you're even trying to say, you just keep saying "but there's already automation" and can't conceive of the fact that there could actually be even more automation. what's the idea here, it's all a scam and fake news? Computer vision for example literally exists, robots are already using it, humanoid and non humanoid alike, it's on video all over the internet and in some cases already being applied, so i don't really get your point
>>727830194no, the future is mass extinction of indians from global warming, please contribute
So I guess the future is gonna be Mega City One but without the blok wars? Not sure how enjoyable life will be with an 80% unemployment but whatever I guess.
>>727839345But how did it make it more accessible exactly? Anyone has a pen and paper or at least MS paint installed. Not everyone has access to the internet. How did it become more accessible exactly?
>>727839234Thats because taxing the rich always works out to taxing the fuck out of the middleclass to do some retarded shit like building bus lanes so you can watch empty busses drive by while stuck in traffic which also got a few rich people way richer because somehow the goverment justified spending 50 million dollars to build it
>Seems to do nothing of value for the people>Just makes things worse in various ways>Only good for the ones trying to wring more money out of peopleOh geesh louise I wonder why people might not like it>IT*S BECAUSE DEYS TRANNIES AND LEFTISTS YEAH DAS RITE!
>>727827568Well, well, well, would you look at that.
>>727839205AI "Works" to the extent that it's an EXTREMELY useful tool for people who know what they're doing to get the basics out and implement simple run-of-the-mill stuff quickly.The problem, is that it's ALSO good enough to shit out basic-to-intermediate output for mouth-breathing retards, who have since decided to offload 100% of their thinking onto it and, if asked, would be UNABLE to critique, optimize, or even explain anything in front of them.This is hitting schools, junior employees, and offshore teams like crack through a black neighborhood and we see these people set to be in roles with influence within the next decade.I *like* AI, I find it useful, but I can't help but feel like I'm standing on the edge of total lobotomization of an entire generation below me as everyone is pushed into copy-pasting messages from the oracle as much as possible for their entire childhood.
>>727839501Dystopian sci-fi usually imagines the future as overcrowded hives but in reality the population is cratering globally, even India has negative demographics at this point. This is probably the one saving grace for the common man, tanking demand for labor will coincide with tanking supply and leave the lower class a chance to preserve a little dignity at least.
>>727839234>>727839510Don't forget the bike lanes dotted around your suburb that no one uses
>>727839508See anons? I told you the troons couldn't comprehend it lol. Flat earthers indeed.
>>727830194AI being the future doesn't mean these investments aren't incredibly fucking stupid. None of these companies have any real way of making any of this shit profitable. Even if you do somehow create AGI, how the fuck are you gonna make all that money back? Would that even be ethical now that you've created a conscious robot? Meanwhile were creating these huge data centers that consume an insane amount water that it also poisons after its been used. Meanwhile, electricity rates skyrocket because the data centers are eating up the majority of the power grid. And all this to do what? Having zoomers cheat on their exam? Tricking chatbots into saying nigger? I'm sure their will be, if not already are uses for AI but the level of money going into it is just crazy.
>>727839345>You can make something more accessible even if it is accessible.The creation process is an integral part of art, and typing a prompt into an AI has no soul, there's no story to the art and no passion when into its creation.The end product isn't the only thing about art that makes it art. Which do you think holds more value, a man with no arms using his mouth or feet to paint a beautiful picture after years of practice, or a man with no arms saying "hey siri generate an image of a painting for me"Which holds more value, a hand crafted mug made by a local pottery shop where you can see the human imperfections, or a mass produced factory slop mug? Which holds more value, a cheap ikea couch or handcrafted furniture made by a carpenter? AI slop is art in the same way that a cheap ceramic coffee cup is pottery. No one looks at shit made in a factory by someone pushing a button and says "wow now THATS art!", it doesn't register as having any artistic value at all because its cheaply made mass produced slop.The only thing stopping someone from picking up a pencil and learning to draw is their own lack of ambition or dedication to learning a craft. Literally anyone can learn to make art, no one is born with talent. AI generated images will never hold any artistic value, at best they will trick people into thinking its something made by a real person, but the moment they find out that it wasn't it stops having any value to them. No one will ever give a shit about AI generated images as an art form. No one will ever be an artist for using AI anymore than someone would be considered a potter for pushing the button on the coffee cup machine. Art hasn't been "democratized" or "made more accessible", its just been devalued as a career path.
>>727839690Damn you couldn't come up with anything, even for the sake of a shitpost, that's pretty sad ngl
>>727827514it costs maybe $200
>>727827710My Christmas memory's what?
>>727839485>in some cases already being appliedYes and here's how
>>727839749>triggered so hard he writes a bookLMAO>>727839760It's an extremely simple concept.Hammer and nail to screw and driver to electric drill or nail gun. This is a process of democratization.
>>727839742The funniest thing about the whole AI race is how little of a technological moat they have.Their entire success revolves around monopolizing the hardware because literally anyone with enough GPUs can become competitive in the space in a matter of months.They are never ALLOWED to make money because doing so would mean giving up the race to buy every gpu on planet earth in order to stop your competitors from doing it first and pulling ahead.
when people say AI they mean nvidia gpulike "AI replaced my job" they mean Nvidia gpu replaced their job.
>>727839829>Hammer and nailNo, talk about the actual thing in question. Not your convenient analogies. How did it make art more accessible? Give me a breakdown of your thinking.
>>727839601I could make it shit out code but I won't know if it will take a week to debugToo bad people just put 100% of their trust into them
>>727839794This isn't part of the modern AI boom. Pose estimation and facial tracking is ancient tech at this point.
>>727839934>reason with the unreasonable I'll just laugh at you thanks.
>>727839829>>triggered so hard he writes a bookWhere did I ever say I was upset? I don't need to be pissed off to say that something is stupid. I'm just gonna assume you're a phone poster if you think a paragraph or two is too much.
>>727839829>Hammer and nail to screw and driver to electric drill or nail gunHammers and nails are more accessible than power tools though? Are you so retarded you got confused by your own points?
>>727839887>literally anyone with enough GPUs can become competitive in the space in a matter of months.I mean that's not true. They will however cram this shit into everything in the future and force it upon you, because fuck you they need to make all that money back somehow because they sure as fuck isn't doing it with their subscriptions right now. Their income stream pales in comparisons to expenses and as far as I can see there's no changing that anytime soon even if part of those expenses are expansion.
>>727839985So you have nothing to say. Even your own analogy works against you lmao >>727840007 Giving up so soon? Sad!
>>727839967Anon, anything computers do right now is "AI". It's full on buzzwordapalooza.
>>727839485What do you mean more automation?Theres constantly more automation. You are just stuck on a shitty sci fi conception of what that means.>>727839794This shit is actual hell. Imagine having some retarded woman in a suit writing you up for having a bad posture score while having zero clue what you're actually doing.Especially a job that menial. There are already robot arms that could be easily trained off that video alone
>>727839994>im definitely not triggeredLMAO>>727840007You use those tools to build things, you fucking retard. It's not about accruing them. Actually funny that you thought you were making a point here.>>727840053>backs up the illiterate moronLOL
>>727827514>>727827568Fpbp Altman Jew every single time
>>727839749The creation process is an integral part of art, and moving a cursor on a screen has no soul, there's no story to the art and no passion when into its creation.The end product isn't the only thing about art that makes it art.Which do you think holds more value, a man mixing pigments by hand to paint a beautiful picture on canvas after years of practice, or a man with a wacom tablet saying "hey my comms are open"?Digital slop is art in the same way that a cheap youtube video is cinema. No one looks at shit arranged on a screen by someone moving a stylus and says "wow now THATS art!", it doesn't register as having any artistic value at all because its cheaply made mass produced slop.The only thing stopping someone from picking up a brush and learning to paint for real is their own lack of ambition or dedication to learning a craft. Digital images will never hold any artistic value, at best they will trick people into thinking its something that's real, but the moment they find out it isn't it stops having any value to them.No one will ever give a shit about digital images as an art form. No one will ever be an artist for using computers anymore than someone would be considered a celebrity for appearing in an online video. Art hasn't been "democratized" or "made more accessible", its just been devalued as a career path.(do you see why everyone clowns on you guys now? lol)
>>727835078>I don't have morality I only think of whats possible and if nobody stops me then that's on themBrowns are disgusting
>>727840007Nails and screws serve different purposes anyway.
>>727839957I mean, I've built some hobby apps that were basically 100% functional for what I wanted them to do in a weekend. But I do it by dictating what I want one function at a time and knowing exactly the architecture that I want.Meanwhile I have indians posting chatgpt screenshots into teams where they ask "Please write me a driver for XYZ on the ABC processor" and then hit enter. and I'm supposed to somehow work amicably with these people. It's fucking insane. They'll ask shit like "why is this not working" and paste debug logs from their own software and then send the chatGPT response as their ANALYSIS on a ticket.
>>727839792Your Christmas memory's ".", just like he wrote.
>>727839749>>727840146I didn't even read a sentence of what he wrote but after seeing this, LOL. >THATS NOT REAL ARToh lord, the buttblast.
>>727840086>being so triggered that you just start replying with LOL and LMAOembarrassing tbqh senpai
>>727840213ywnbara
>>727840086>It's not about accruing them>it's not about ease of production>it's not about ease of use>it's about.. uhhm.. uhhhSo you actually are a retard who got confused by own shitposts. Where's the democratization here? You can't build shit if I give you power tools. You need the same exact knowledge a person with a hammer and nails has. You goddam retard. You have no arguments, you can' even come up with a good analogy. What a clown lol
>>727827514>You ever hear of a man named Sam Altman?>"no.">Way back in the 2020's, brother sold RAM like it was fucking water.>"I dunno who the fuck you talking about">...I know you don't.>And the police don't.>And the scalpers wouldn't have a fuckin' clue.>Because Sam Altman just sold ram. None of that high profile shit, no gang violence.>Just buy for a dollar, sell for two.Where were you when the true price of the brick was rigged all along?https://youtu.be/UPm1DsqF_VQ
>>727833810>ESL>consolebabby>also a drooling retardWhat a weird coincidence. I just can't believe it. Maybe there's some kind of correlation here.
>>727840262Disingenuous fuck. Just take the L.
>>727840213>THATS NOT REAL ARTHaving seen what AI "artists" push out, that is correct and their flood of shit actively makes the internet a worse place.
>>727840146>cannot create his own response, can only take what already exists and corrupt itwhat an apposite response, and how delightfully oblivious you were in proving the other guy's point by accident
>>727840086That's cool and all, but you wasted several posts and STILL can't bring up a single point on how AI makes drawing more accessible. I accept your concession.
>>727840305You are not wrong. AI actually improved the internet in terms of art and videos.
>>727840340Did you get your wires crossed.
>>727840213I really don't care if you have shit taste, but 99% of people will never respect "AI art" as a legitimate art form. You can go right ahead and pay for AI art if you want though, I'm not gonna stop you from eating the slop. No one is upset that you like it, you're just upset that they think its lame that you like it. You don't need to convince us, just let go of your ego and be cringe if you want to be. You don't need to be so upset that everyone thinks you're a huge dork, just be a dork and stop trying to tell everyone they're wrong for calling you a dork or saying that AI is gay as fuck.
>>727840335We're not in an argument. From the beginning I was pointing out how you're mentally retarded exactly like flat earthers because you can't understand the most basic ideas and always start chimping out when it's brought up. It's hilarious and I wanted to show that anon more comedy and boy did you not disappoint LOL
>>727840296All your posts are just excuses and weaseling your way out of having any argument, you can't think for shit, you can't make a point. You are like a bitch boy who speaks our of line and now timidly makes passive aggressive excuses. If you are such a coward faggot don't start shitposting, you are not even an entertaning kind of retard. Fuck off.
>>727840146Arts been bullshit for ages anyway.I print art auction lists and random bullshit like a blue square goes for 100k while actual paintings go for like 1.5k or less.Just look at that retarded digital monkey token that was going for hundreds of thousands.
>>727836079>China, and most open source people just want Futurama or something like utopia. Yeah as if I needed more proof we had chinese agents posting. /g/ makes that obvious enough already.
>>727840443>made an solid analogy>you're retarded and didn't understand it>try to twist it but failed>get called out, now you're embarrassed>decide to put words in my mouth that I didn't say as "revenge"LMAO
>>727840490>I print art auction lists and random bullshit like a blue square goes for 100k while actual paintings go for like 1.5k or less.Thats just money laundering, "fine art" has been a money laundering scheme for a pretty long time now
>>727835750Based!
>>727840504What's China's stance on AI and how is my eval of it wrong?
>>727840441>We're not in an argumentNo shit, you don't have an argument.I simply asked how AI makes art more accessible and you realize you don't have any ground to stand on and give up. You don't even know my stance on AI or art or anything. You can't elaborate, because you have nothing.
>>727840552I made one and you ignored it LOL
>>727840509>>made an solid analogy
>>727840530I think its cope but i also want to believe that.Doesnt make sense why the blue square gets chosen for money laundering instead of the actual nice paintings
>>727827568>he needed Early Life to tell someone with that name and face is jewishYou really need to work on your racism skills mate
>>727840632>proving he has a critically low IQI'm actually impressed at how shameless you retards can be.>>727840652They can't make nice paintings and don't want to pay for them.
>>727840406I think there is a legitimate form of AI Art, but it needs to embrace the quirks and capabilities of AI.Anyone trying to replicate real art using AI is missing the point and obviously will never be taken seriously
>>727840621>LOL>LOL>LOLUh oh melty.There isn't a single post where you explain how AI makes art accessible lying nigger. What are you hoping to achieve? You can't articulate your thoughts, you can't back up any of your claims. The only thing you achieved is provided more evidence that ai jeets are subhumans.
>>727840742you are so fucking mad LOL
>>727840742>There isn't a single post where you explain how AI makes art accessible lying nigger.Cause he doesn't actually believe that this is true, he's just pretending to be retarded because he thinks people saying "go away retard" is peak comedy for some reason.
>>727840760>ctrl+f case sensetive "LOL"Jeety melty
>>727840719>Anyone trying to replicate real art using AI is missing the point and obviously will never be taken seriouslyThis is such an ironic thing to say. All art is real art, using a new tool luddites dislike doesn't disqualify art as art.
>>727840815>>727840796>nigger jeet retard fake art stop laughing at me!!!!Get laughed at lmfao. You lose.
>>727838758Taco Bell has an automated drive thru machine taking my order now but my food costs the same or more.
>>727840838Yeah and you are a totally real woman kek
>>727840884>AI art wins art and photography competitions>AI artists have successful careers or big audiences>AI art companies making lots of money>regular people have no idea what AI art even is and they like itYou're stuck in a bubble of retards bro.
>>727840715Don't talk to me ever again little timid bitch.
>>727840964>>regular people have no idea what AI art even is and they like it>but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE REMOVE AI LABEL AAAAAHHHHHLMAO
AI won't make your life better just because you imagine it will "own" those with a different political opinion and all it has done so far is enriching the rich and making shit worse for the rest of us. You are just bootlicking
>>727841021Regular people don't know what steam is either. Sorry that I mistook you for my bro, troon.
>>727840838>All art is real art, using a new tool luddites dislike doesn't disqualify art as art.Yes, if you want to be a real pedantic faggot about things, anything can technically be art. I could take a shit on your front door step tomorrow and call it art if I wanted to. But if we're going by this logic, how has AI made art more accessible if anything is art? I thought that the issue was that art was inaccessible before AI, but how can this be the case if all art is real art? Seems like an expensive waste of time when everyone is already a real artist.
>>727840838Part of art is playing into the strengths of your medium. If you aren't doing that and you're just selecting whatever takes the least amount of work for everything what's the point man
>>727841023Most people who like AI have had it make their lives better. You're being a useful idiot for corporations who want the public to be against AI so they can regulate it to their benefit. You should support open source AI so it benefits all of humanity.
>>727841051>Regular people don't know what steam is eitherIn India? Perhaps, you don't seem very tech literate rakesh. Here in first world literally every male ages 15 - 40 knows what steam is.
>>727841057>anything can technically be art. I could take a shit on your front door step tomorrow and call it art if I wanted to.I don't believe this and I'm not pedantic. There is absolutely no logical fundamental difference between using in AI and a pencil or a camera.>But if we're going by this logic, how has AI made art more accessibleYou know how, you're not retarded. It's the reason you dislike it.>>727841058What?
>>727841107>Most people who like AI have had it make their lives better.Kek!
>>727839234>who liveChang
>>727841123>Here in first world literally every male ages 15 - 40 knows what steam is.There is no way that you actually believe this. But you're already copping out because the world is larger than the first world anyway, so nice goalposts there.>>727841242Why else would they like it?
>>727841023>>727841107This is true, the power of A.I. in the hands of the people is dangerous to the system, this is why they want you to hate itThey're creating circumstances to rape you, so you ask for THEIR solution that benefits them the mostImagine an outdated enterprise grade GPU with 96gb of RAM in the hands of the common man, they're able to do and create things completely antithetical to the system's beliefs and desireshttps://files.catbox.moe/qwfmj1.webm
>>727841286>the world is larger than the first world OH NO NO NO HE IS ACTUALLY A JEET AHAHAHAHAH
>>727841294>Imagine an outdated enterprise grade GPU with 96gb of RAM in the hands of the common man, they're able to do and create things completely antithetical to the system's beliefs and desiresThis is only a few years away and ((they)) do not want this but it's coming anyway.
>>727840550Who fucking cares chang
>>727841393Concession double accepted. Imagine thinking regular people know the name of a PC program. You're so out of touch and probably never leave your home.
>>727841459>Concession double accepted. Imagine thinking regular people know the name of a PC program. You're so out of touch and probably never leave your home.
>>727841286Do first world problems really not direct the world's attention...?
Me commissioning art makes me an artist desu.
>>727841507What?
>>727841286>AI defender was a ranjeet /pol/niggerAnd absolutely NOBODY was surprised.
>>727841491>>727841572>completely lost the argument>proved you're a terminally online autist that thinks steam is commonly known in virtually any country>set it up so you could cry about jeets>samefagsAbsolutely embarrassing.
>>727839742>>727834574>>727828103It's not about turning a profit, never was. It's about categorizing internet users data, manufacturing consensus and launching hypertargeted influence campaigns, creating and supporting artificial social bubbles.If you have enough matrix multiplicators in your compute array - you will win elections. Thats it. Thats the elevator sales pitch and political leadership bought it wholesale - hook, line and sinker.
>>727841665Nobody ever mentioned any country or the world as a whole you dumbfuck thirdie. We are talking about the first world by default. Nobody gives a shit about your shitholes. Fuck off brownoid.
>>727841730What I said applies to the first world. You have no argument which is why you're copping out with jeet seething. Just kill yourself you loser.
>>727841767>What I said applies to the first worldIt doesn't. You don't know it because you are a clueless brown thirdie retard. Don't talk to me again animal.
>>727827978>Why does he look so uncanny?Same type of nepo baby silicon valley slime that produced the zuck and elon.
>>727841802Yes it does. I'm sorry but your sad attempt at derailing failed. Even most of the men in that age range don't know what it is. >women don't count>countries I can't name don't countKeep coping retard.
>>727841209>There is absolutely no logical fundamental difference between using in AI and a pencil or a camera.Yes there is lmao. There is actually a massive fundmental difference between these things. >AI art: you type a prompt in and a machine generates an image based on other images its been trained on>pencil: you the artist take your imagination and put it to paper, every detail is shaped and molded by your own personality and experiences, your soul speaks through your art and it gives viewers a glimpse at how you see the world>photograph: an actual moment in time captured on film, a real place, a real event, the actual light from that moment recorded and archived for future viewing.
>>727839189Yeah I genuinely don't understand, he just draws, nothing spicy, no hot takes etc
>>727841895>Even most of the men in that age range don't know what it is. Yes they do delusional low IQ clueless brownie
>>727841902>use technology, fingers, and brain>make a pictureThis is the fundamental act. You don't know what the word fundamental means huh. Imagine being illiterate.
>>727839345Image generation gacha is not art. You did not make that. You are not an artist. It is not copyrightable. Fuck off.
>>727841954Keep telling yourself that while you google how many users it has and where they live.
>>727842002Keep telling yourself that.>It is not copyrightableYou're even a year out of date on this point. You've been grinding hard in the cope mines huh.
>>727842029I don't need to google anything, I lived all my life in the first world, I studied and worker here, I moved from a small rural town into a big city and every single man I ever met knew what steam is, even if they were on consoles their entire life or didn't play vidya at all.You need to resort to googling and making assumptions from that because you are a thirdie who knows nothing yet opens his filthy mouth. You got found out. Nobody takes anything you have to say seriously. Kill yourself.
>>727842142>refuses to research>can't reason>doesn't know how obscure PC programs are>anecdotal evidenceVERY low IQ.
>>727842083Eat shit dumbass.
>>727842201>saaaaar please research how you live in first world bloody bastard I know it better bloody bitch
I didn't expect much but I'm still surprised at just what little cultural influence AI art has had. There's been a flood of "art" on the internet in the last 3 years that's well exceeded the last 20 years before AI, and yet none of them have had as much impact as one dude badly drawing an anime character from a low angle.
>>727842221>anti-AI retard citing AI>when it's wrongWhat level of retardation is this? https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/this-company-got-a-copyright-for-an-image-made-entirely-with-ai-heres-how/
>>727841956really when you get down to it there's no fundamental difference between jerking off, riding a bicycle, eating marbles, making AI art, and throwing noodles at the wall to see if they're fully cooked. >mentally conceptualize an action>do the action
>>727842283You're just getting old and ignorant and don't feel it. The little kids crying to the cats had a huge effect. And what are you even comparing it to?>and yet none of them have had as much impact as one dude badly drawing an anime character from a low angle.Are you talking about the Frieren thing? Those kinds of trends have existed by the hundreds in AI communities.
>>727842283The problem with AI art is that everyone doing it is desperately trying to pretend that it's not AI art because they're ashamed of it.it's not allowed to influence anything because that would require being at least somewhat open about it
>>727842296>completely different actions with completely different results are fundamentally the sameYou truly have no idea what that word means. I'm impressed at how fucking stupid you are. Using a tool made for art to create art.
>>727842283>a third of new music is AI generated>there are immense floods of AI generated videos on all video platforms>AI art took over facebook and pixiv what did you mean by this
>>727842414Sorta like how physically drawing a picture with a pencil, taking a photograph, and typing a prompt into an AI are completely different actions with completely different results
>>727841956I can go more fundamental>use wood, graphite, fingers, and brain>use thousands of tons of intricate etched silicon, a handful of water, a smaller subset of etched silicon, some coal/nuclear/hydroelectric, more etched silicon for your fingers to type on, fingers, and your brainWow these seem pretty different in scale.
>>727842356>hose kinds of trends have existed by the hundreds in AI communities.And not a single human with a soul cared>>727841956You are a drooling retard. You are trying to conjure up empty words to twist and mold reality into that you want it to be. Just because you said magic word "fundamental" doesn't prove your overall point. Typing words and spinning machine generation roulette doesn't have any artistic process and thus it's not art. There's no artistic expression.>b-but I said the magic word! I-I said le fundamentalGo take a shit on a street and call it art too ranjeet
>>727842462>>a third of new music is AI generated>>there are immense floods of AI generated videos on all video platforms>>AI art took over facebook and pixivAI is actually making the internet so gay that I've recently been going entire days without checking my computer because everything online has gotten so soulless and shitty that its not even fun to browse the internet anymore, and I feel like I'm mostly doing it out of habit and getting annoyed that nothing that used to be fun online is still fun today. I feel like if the internet keeps dying at this pace there will be no appeal left at all in a few years and I will basically only be using it to communicate with friends and family, but otherwise it will have nothing to offer me anymore. The internet was already flooded with shitty bots making everything suck before this big AI boom, now shits just getting full on dystopian and I'm losing hope that the internet will ever get better.
>>727842471>>727842509>>727842552They have similar results and the tools are built for the same purpose. You idiots have no argument and don't know what words mean.
>>727842462And the only cultural impact it has is making everyone resent AI.
>>727842579>They have similar results and the tools are built for the same purposeIts crazy that you think cameras and pencils are similar tools in any capacity.
>>727842563>something based is finally driving off terminally online tranniesholy based, hopefully you stay gone
>>727842579You are mass replying to different posts with different points. You have nothing to say in your defence, you are shitposting. Kill yourself
>>727842579They have nowhere near similar results and the tools are not built for the same purposes. You're retarded. You're generalizing just enough for completely philosophically vapid teenagers to agree with you, but if you generalize any more or less it immediately becomes clear the two methodologies are completely and utterly disparate. You need all of society's backing just to operate even local models.
>>727842563Agreed on all of this but I think the bigger influence is just third worlders desu.The amount of AI stuff I see PALES in comparison to the amount of thirdies making sure their engagement slop garbage is everywhere you look so they can scrape together pennies in ad revenue. Even without AI they would be brute forcing the same amount of absolute trash onto your feed
>>727842628Both are tools for recording and communicating visual information. Cameras capture light into images while pencils make marks to represent what you see.>>727842651You're all arguing the same thing and how no real argument.>>727842657Literally every single thing you just said is wrong. There isn't an iota of intelligence in your brain.
>>727839749I can now get something in my head into a viewable medium in a few minutes without spending thousands of hours mastering an artform only to literally never be satisfied with my own work. I used to draw and the creation process just pissed me off and I wanted to be able to just have what's in my brain out of it with sufficient quality. FUCK the creation process.
>>727842731AI has a process anyway, he has no argument.
>>727842719Anon a pencil isn't a tool for recording and communicating visual information. You can use it as one, but that is not its entire purpose. I say again, you're retarded.
>>727842719Your English is breaking down poojeet. We buck broke you, crawl back to your AI waifu and complain to her you keep getting btfo'd on the internet.
>>727842783>"maybe if I make some pedantic bullshit argument"That is how they're similar you fucking retard. Concession accepted.
>>727842776You have no control over the process. You cannot even understand the process. You had no part in forming the process. AI is similar to a mass production line. Sure, you can pull the level, but you didn't make the shovel. You didn't make the machines that made the shovel. You didn't design the shovel that comes out.
>>727842640Whats the point of making AI shit online if there's no one to show it to? Whats the point of even using social media if 99% of the people you interact with aren't real people and its all a giant skinnerbox scam to keep you "engaged with the content" so you look at more ads?I'm not using the Internet less often because AI makes me angry, I'm using it less often because there's nothing of value online anymore. Instead of seeing actual shit made or written by people online, its all bots posting shit made by other bots on an account made by a bot so some jackass in India can make $14 USD/month by flooding the internet with slop.Literally what is there to do online these days thats worth the time? Surfing the internet used to be fun, there used to be shitloads of different websites with all sorts of weird shit to find, and it was all uniquely made by different people. Now its all been reduced to 3-4 major social media sites, and everything on those websites is botslop or reposts of reposts from the other websites. I know you're just acting retarded, but I can't imagine why anyone would be excited for the death of the internet like this.
>>727842840Hahaha god you indians are so dumb it's unreal
>>727842840But they aren't similar, you have effectively argued that they are being used for similar ends. Which isn't actually an argument that the two tools are similar at all. Please understand your own argument before you vomit it where I can see it.>pedantryWe're talking about fucking FUNDAMENTAL FORMS at this point, we are EXCLUSIVELY talking about semantics.
>>727842845>You have no control over the process.Yes you do. It's just another tool in the arsenal of digital art tools. You can open up your image in paint all you like and control which parts are generated or how they look and have thousands of different dials and values to play with.
>>727842889He's only saying pedantic cause I said he was being pedantic earlier and he had to google it to figure out what it means
>>727842912No, you don't. The process exists without you. You fiddle levers at the far end, the process translates that in ways you don't understand.
>>727842864>Whats the point of making AI shit online if there's no one to show it to?What do you mean? Firstly you make art for yourself(right?). Secondly AI artists have people that look at their stuff.>Whats the point of even using social media if 99% of the people you interact with aren't real people and its all a giant skinnerbox scam to keep you "engaged with the content" so you look at more ads?Are you schizophrenic?>I'm not using the Internet less often because AI makes me angry, I'm using it less often because don't care, just stay gone you people are annoying lmao
>>727842973I'm sure you'll love your AI utopia where all social media is an infinite run of third world grifts.
>>727842954>in ways you don't understand.You're just projecting. You don't know anything about AI, you probably still think you can't copyright it.
>>727842875>>727842889Imagine arguing a pencil or a camera isn't mean to record or communicate visual information. Holy shit you subhumans are so mind numbingly stupid.
