is Nioh worth it ?
>>728577003Yes. It's Dark souls is far better combat.
fuck no
Its good, but hard
>>728577003It's Dark Souls but fast and it's a competition between you and the enemies of who can cheese harder
I'd recommend buying Wo Long instead.
>>728577046>It's Dark souls>>728577148>It's Dark Soulsnone of you have actually played this game you retarded secondaries
>>728577352>he says while posting a Facebook frog image with a Facebook filename
>>728577046This is really the sum of it. If you played souls and thought "I wish there was more meat to the combat mechanics" and you don't mind very basic level design, then Nioh is fantastic. The first game is a little more rough around the edges with some stinkers in the boss roster and less weapon/combo variety, but both games are still very good and worth playing.
Only good souls series.
>>728577449still not as embarrassing though
>>728577003I told my boyfriend super excited i wanted to play Nioh 3 with him and he ranted about how Nioh sucks and it's hack and slash garbage and he doesn't wanna play it.
>>728577352It's directly inspired by fromsoftware's games. Saying it's "like dark souls" is very reductive, but not untrue
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>>728577003The Diablo loot really kills this game for me
>>728577352>Bonfires>Souls>Lockon circle strafe stamina combatWhats it missing, anon? Backstab fishing is about the only thing its missing.
>>728577603your boyfriend got filtered. probably cant even double flux>>728577641why did you post a selfie
>>728577603Sounds like you're dating a fucking casual
>>728577257+10 social credit score
>>728577003Yes, absolutely.
>>728577603kys
>>728577257Aw hell naw man what the fuck man *vine boom* who invited this dood?
>>728577003No, the gear system is garbage and instead of an actual world there's a mission based level system.
>>728577901>Missions/chapters = bad. You dislike almost every action game?
>>728578107Nta but the "chapters" are often the same level you've already cruised through, with a handful of different enemies and some tuned up regular enemy as a "boss" give or take some bullshit cheese
>>728577003I started playing it recently and I'm having funYuki-onna raped my ass holy shit. I assume it only gets worse
>>728577003Fantastic action game and one of my favorite bits of historical fiction ever written.Second game is better in nearly every way, basically the perfect sequel.Third game is poised to be the best action RPG ever released.
>>728577003It's fun. Like everyone says, it's Dark Souls but focused on fun complex combat rather than exploration. 2 is a much better game but they're both good.
>>728578239You're talking about side missions moron. No main mission level is re-used across multiple main missions.
>>728577003>is Nioh worth it ?only if you like fighting the same 3 enemies for 60 hours then sure
Don't expect Dark Souls, it's a very arcadey game that only shares a few mechanics with it. Nioh is much more of an action game with absolutely great combat but a lot of quirks that many find off putting (corridor-like level design, ARPG loot, anime story, overall very east Asian presentation)I liked it overall, especially the DLC bosses are a lot of fun and the combat system is fun to play around with. Fuck Maria btw
>>728577003Action RPG game largely focused on the action part of that dynamic.Quick combat with mechanics that allow you to stay aggressive and engaged. Turbo Button did a fantastic video detailing what makes its systems so good :https://youtu.be/dXea0FNvk3c?si=8E8MNfEnkmDjWKSiCombine all that with possible animation cancelling and other mechanics you can game to your advantage and it's a fun time finding where you can pry open things to your benefit. The game starts relatively hard, as you have less options available, and trends easier as you get more tools to break the game in your favor.There's an insane amount of work put into the detail of several locations, arms, and armor. If you're a Sengoku-era dork, it's pretty satisfying.Plot follows real-world William Adams except he sails to Japan to chase down fucking Edward Kelly, who has kidnapped his spirit-waifu. I'm not kidding that the antagonists are a conspiracy trio of the Queen of England, John Dee, and Edward Kelly, it's fucking great. The actual beat to beat plot isn't anything special but there are some entertaining characters and moments throughout. Even if you aren't massively into the period, the game provides enough notes and details for you to get a sense of the larger conflict and characters.A lot of people complain about the loot system but it's just a straightforward 'get better gear, equip it' style for your first playthrough, for the most part. On NG+, you can start really putting together builds and the difficulty raises enough to reward it.TL:DR; It's historical fiction that doesn't take itself too seriously and knows its focus is on being an engaging action game with light RPG elements.
>>728577003The first game is so often on insane like 90%+ sales nowadays that there's no reason not to just buy it and try it out yourself.
>>728577003Yes it's the best third person arpg series
>>728578881The first game has the least variety of all of them and even then there's way more than just 3 enemies, even if you're condensing all the Skeleton variants down to just 'skeleton' and all the yoki and amrita fiend variants down to 'yoki'.Shit's just disingenuous and no other action RPG features nearly as much enemy variety. Even fucking Dark Souls can be boiled down to 'hollow, knight, demon' if you're being a reductive ass about it.
>>728580874I love their approach to yokai designs. Obscure over the top myths blown up and over the top
I didn't like the combat or the massive amount of loot to sift through
>>728581570The first game had lots of fun enemy and boss design and the second REALLY stepped it up, too. Loved the connective tissue of the golden amrita horns / motif.
>>7285818583 looks like it's continuing with that style. Especially with the yellow horns
Only played Nioh 1 but it was pretty fun
>>728577003No, Nioh 1 is shit.Nioh 2 however is one of the greatest vidya ever made.
team crinja shills really working overtime again prior to its release huh
>>728582378>Enjoy a game because it's good>Someone asks if the game is good>Anons express why it is good>"baka fuckin shills"dishonorable behavior, anon.
>>728577003yes>>728577257
>>728582378yea no one is even posting gameplay, easiest way to spot a shill thread
Today I finished Dream of the Demon Against All Odds and with it, got my 100% in time for Nioh 3 =)
>>728577003Yes
>>728582947can't tell what's going onvisual clutter
>>728582946>no one is posting gameplay>>728579925>literally posted a 6 minute gameplay video>but it isn't muh webms so it must be shillsShut the fuck up.
>>728582947Nice job. Now get to against all comers on dotn and open a lobby
>>728583150its an achievement window retard
>>728583150I played on steam deck so youre looking at a very compressed 800p image im afraid anon.
>>728583257>using brap coreImpressive. There's too many cores I never tried because it's so ez to settle into 3 or so fast ones I just use for animation cancels
>>728583287Working on it, I'm up to Soaring on DotN.
>>728583302Me too. You can, in fact, use the deck fsr if you window the game and use stretch to fit. Runs great.
>>728582121Yes.....The horns....
Not OP but are all Nioh games worth playing?Or should I just jump to the most recent one?
>>728578881Nioh, even just the first game, has some of the most enemy variety in any action game. If you comb through every action/RPG game and measure the number of different enemies you fight throughout levels, Nioh 2 would easily be on the top 5 or top 10 for most variety.
>>728583725I started with 2 but also enjoyed 1. I think they're both worth playing.
>>728583375I tried all of them extensively in the main game. A lot got made better with the DLC release, though. Even still, on replay, it's hard for me not to at least have Nurikabe and Yamanba :https://docs.google.com/document/d/17FBbNfVApEl0ZLwECWsU-z9sNvu02czm8pLepk-_dUM/edit?usp=sharing
>>728583725Play Nioh 1 then 2.2 has a lot of editions to 1 making going from 2->1 rather difficult.
>>728583725The narrative connects between them.They're all worth playing.Only two games exist, both with excellent DLC.Third game comes out sometime in February 2026.
>>728577603Give him the D(ual katana).
>>728583913Bookmarked, thanks. I'm replaying 2 atm and looking to experiment more
>>728583913For me, it's Onryoki, Kasha and Scampuss phantom build.
>>728583725The games a really mechanically thick.Probably best to start with the first and learn as you go along.
>trying to switch away from using katana and tonfa because i've used nothing but these 2 weapons for the past 100 hours>can't get any dual swords or switchglaive to drop with the grace I usean eternity of studying the blade tooonfing continues
Time for kino. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVr0qmOoFI
>>728577003Peak arpg combat, so peak that it becomes good only when it stops pretending to be a dark souls and lets you play the bloody palace mode.
>>728584312Eagles Talons + Dragon Sword high luck and lifesteal build goes crazy.
>>728583523 Based FSR deckbro. I was skeptical at first but running it in a window with "stretch to fit" plus docking forces the res bump without nuking performance. Game looks almost native 1080p if you squint right and slap on some sharpening. It ain't perfect, but it makes farming Twilight missions in style portable as hell.
>>728584934Have either of you used lossless scaling kino with nioh 2?
If you only have time for 1 of the 2 play Nioh 2. One of the best games ever made.
>>728584481I'm looking for tsukuyomi for my current buildPls no bully I am abusing the fuck out of omnyo and loving it because I know it won't be the same in Nioh 3 and an omnyo build may not even be possible when the game releases
>>728585229Well, it'll likely just be an elemental ninjutsu build given it seems repeatable blasts are moved to Ninja. Going that route, though, it'll have more support since you'll have built in Infinite Ninjutsu given how the system works.
>>728584312when I want to try a new weapon I just start a new playthrough desu
>>728577753>>728582918the fuck is this retardation it's the same devs
>>728586309Anon's so retarded they got Wo Long and Wukong mixed up.
>>728586354many such cases
Im pooing
>>728586909describe the smell, Tesso, haha
>>728577003Yeah, kinda dropped it after finding spirit wife but still it's good.
Anyone else feel like the level design got even worse in 2 while it was already kind of meh in 1? It cant just be me right?
>>728589146didnt notice. Was too busy killing
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1N8T_mBxFYAXid_ofwT_12FuZuk0DQYU4I hate to shill this dude's screenshots but it's worth looking at if you're wondering about skills and customization in 3. Unfortunately he missed a ton of stuff so I still have a lot of questions. I'll put down some of my thoughts for weapons that I use though.>fistsGained a new dedicated input for Opportunist in mid stance, thus freeing up that slot for something else. Ocean Zephyr also got it's own new input that's more intutive since it's just holding dodge while guarding so that frees up another slot. The launcher can be used in any stance it looks like it got a dive kick like what Wo Long fists had. Limitless now is a charge input so you can have both it and Beyond Infinity set. Overall fists are looking really solid.>2katWater Sword is now a hold input in any stance so now we have more flexibility and can use it along with Windstorm which is very nice. Windstorm is now available in mid stance as well. Mortal Flow is now low stance only which is weird but I only ever had it set in low stance to begin with so it's not a big deal. The Shrike now has it's own new input so now you get your choice of another parry. The new launcher "Twin Dragon" and Double-headed Slice confusingly fight for the same low stance input. There's seemingly no reason why they couldn't make one of those moves usable in mid stance as well but then again, these screenshots aren't from the final build so things could change. High stance gained a new input slot and it looks like Heavenly Flow is now high only in that slot. I don't know if we'll have any other options there. Overall, 2kat is looking good but Twin Dragons being restricted still irks me. Fist's new launcher is usable in any stance for example.
>>728591316continuing my post>hatchetsAs expected, losing stances means a lot of skills are fighting for inputs. Mountain Climber irks me a lot because they removed it's input so that it can now fight for the same input as all the other skills. Other weapons still have that "dodge forward after a quick attack" input so I really hope this is fixed for release. My main issue right now is that they're making Demon Undercut and Lethal Barrage fight for the same input instead of adding a new "L1+triangle after a quick attack" for Demon Undercut. Bell Ringer at least got it's own new input so that's good. I'm also confused about Death from Above since it can be used in the air as well but there's no air slot for it in the customization. They should let you have it set as an aerial skill and then choose a separate ground skill if you want. Again, this build isn't final though so we'll see what the final release is like. I think they'll still be good/fun though since most of the important skills can be set at the same time but there are a few questionable things here.
Played this on several occations with friends, good times, but ive havent gotten any of them to get 2 sadly.I completed everything on the default difficulty in 2, found the minimum required missions needed to get to the final boss so I could start a new difficulty, did this a few times til i hit WotN and got severy burnt out just after.Dont remember if it was the repetition or the stats bloat in later difficulties that made me stop, I should get back into 2 again.
>>728577003Worth what? Your money? Your time?
>>728591316>fistsHow different are the ninja fists to the samurai one?
>>728589146It wasn't bad in either game and I wouldn't say it got worse in 2.
Stop it niggers I don't want to reinstall reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHow well does Khazan scratch that itch
I finished Rise of the Ronin and it was great. I liked it as much as Nioh 2.to think I nearly give it a pass just because mfs were negative about it due to bullshit reasons like "muh graphics" or, "open world bad" when it doesn't matter at all.This makes me want to check Wo Long which I also missed out on. But maybe after SoP, which is also great but I have an hard time with the skill system and those fucking tomberries..Can't wait for Nioh 3 if their "worst game" in a while is still this good.
>>728595775I just couldn't get into RotR because of the bad performance and the combat being a clear stepdown over their other games. There is a fuckton of ice skating on enemies and side correction compared to the rest and every opponent getting super armor after 2 hits is annoying is fuck. Despite it all it isn't that bad.Wo Long is cool, better than RotR but also clearly below Nioh games and SoP
>>728595027Samurai fists are cestus and ninja fists are talons. 2 had both but talons just got broken off into their own ninja weapon now. There's some shared skills across both but claws have more new stuff. I only played the alpha and had access to very few skills so I couldn't really get a good feel for talons.
>muh deep combat >katana with 999999 strengthgame is made for shitters who need a crutch to play souls fuck off
>>728577003i played it cant beat 1st boss and quit even tho i clear all the dark souls game
>No denuvo on the steam pageHey wait a secondWhat are the chances they'll just sneak it in during launch
A lot of dark souls vets have played and enjoyed nioh 1 and 2
>>728595775If you like their other games like Nioh and RotR then you should like Wo Long.
>>728577003no, the diablo loot skinnerbox system they have is pure cancer
>>728599193Diablo loot isn't the best but they're still good despite it.
>>728600694Some people (retards) just struggle with numbers and choice paralysis
>>728577680>Whats it missingThat's how you should know your approach is wrong. It's about what different, not what's the same.
>>728577003Yes.
>>728577003If youre a soulsfag youre probably gonna get filtered by difficult and complex combat
>>728598025I don't think any of Team Ninja's recent games had denuvo
>ANOTHER case of ERM I can use the glowing demonic stones to summon demons and turn myself into a demon I'm just BUILT differentDo japanese people just never learn their lessons, at what point will they figure it out
>>728604059The only people who get filtered are the anti-loot brained normalfags. Imagine being scared by affixes.
So now that we don't have the yokai shifting and the ye olde living weapon, how will I scrub out the difficult bosses?
>>728604536Look up Lobos (one of the top soulsborne challenge runners) playthgrough. Guy played with axe, high stance most of the game., and complained about iframes constantly lmao, didnt use any combos or stances, just R1 and roll
>>728606275The new living artifact is stronger than yokai shift
>>728606410How so?
>>728607059NTA but just the fact that each weapon/style has a different moveset and you can switch between them in LA makes it better IMO
>>728577003Less than 2 months left...
>>728577003Ye its good
Nue is the best boss in a non-FROM game, but every other boss is not very creative or interesting. Plus Nioh has absolutely awful level design, but the combat/co-op is worth suffering through for it.
>no new weapon typesFug
>>728609316I love how this boss filters the fuck out of you until you learn how to ki pulse and combo.
>>728610143So how exactly do the ninja weapons even work, really? Do they just have attacks based on 1 specific stance from the past or are all the moves actually new? What even replaces all the stance changes, is it really just jumping or do they have different attack types too?
>>728609316Nioh level and art design is dogshit because they wanted the offline MMO audience. Shit is made to be speedrun to farm boss drops over and over. Being forced to farm bosses for fucking new attacks is the most gacha shit ever. Thank god there's cheat engine
>>728610334>Fuckhuge basementUgh>Ninja trap houseUgh>Multi level saunaUghNioh's levels made me hate ancient Japan as a setting.
>>728610286>Do they just have attacks based on 1 specific stance from the past or are all the moves actually new?It's both
>>728610419>>Ninja trap house>Ugh>>Multi level sauna>UghBoth of these were absolute kino
>>728610419Someone couldn't find the secret doors
World of Warcraft is a souls-like according to the "gaming community's" retarded parameters. Or more accurately, demon souls is a WoW-like.>rest mechanic>enemies drop currency>stamina bar>summoning players>stat-point spending>see where other players died>fantasy setting>bosses>oversized weapons and medieval armor>epic music>potions and flasks>magic/pyromancy>environmental storytelling>emotes>3rd personNow you'll say "b-but the gameplay is different"EXACTLY, NIOH IS ITS OWN THINGSo yes OP, you should play both of them.
>can customize character for both styles separately>can't make a big samurai dude and a tiny kunoichi girlWe were robbed...
>>728577003yeah its pretty goodyou can play it like a 3rd person action rpg or go full diablo loot and build autism
>>728611842Poor bird momsI wish there were more non aggressive yokai interactions available
>onmyo completely guttedCheese bros, how will we recover?
>>728577003For sure, easily one of my top games of all time
>>728577003Depends on how much you like Japan. I mean REALLY like Japan, as the games are one big historical and mythological who's who of Nipponese history. Also if you want Souls combat that plays out more like a more traditional action game with a bit of Diablo style loot drops. It's....not exactly the friendliest game series to get into, but when it clicks you'll have a lot of fun.
>>728610419Fuck the basement level (Samurai of Sawayama), but I like all the other levels.
>>728584971Late response but yes I tried it and it introduces too much input latency to play comfortably. On deck nioh 2 runs at 60 for me pretty much everywhere except several dlc areas so never really needed it.
>>728611947POKE
>>728612930I'm confident that there will still be plenty of cheese in 3
>>728610286Their standard attacks are all new, while their skills are a mix of new ones and ones from the previous weapon, the split depending on the weapon but so far everything's gotten quite a few new moves. Stances are replaced by Ninjutsu, which are both the original projectiles which can be thrown by moving, and new techniques like an invincible jump cancel, a dash, a burrowing move and a Cicada Surge style counter. Jumping is a separate thing both styles can do, but Ninja weapons tend to have repeating strings with significantly more air time, more aerial skills and Ninja can jump off of enemies, air dodge and double jump.
>>728612930I don't understand the sheer level of retardation that compels people to assume Onmyo won't be just as powerful as before if not moreso. Thinking we won't be able to build around it is next level idiocy as well.
>>728577257I only played like 2 levels of Wo Long, but the combat system felt too simplified compared to Nioh 2.
>>728595775>those fucking tomberrieshit em with that wind magic yo
>>728616378some anons have been shitting on it but I for one believe that ninja mode will be a nice change of pace
>>728606305I still don't get how you're meant to play these games. The dodge is only good for running away (repositioning), the parries are all cumbersome, so you're left with block but blocking bigger attacks will get you guard broken/killed, and turtling the whole game is unfun anyway.What was the idea here? Maybe this game is just too Asian for me, I don't understand it.
>>728616912>The dodge is only good for running away (repositioning)
>>728616989that anon probably never tried changing from high stance
>>728583913Onryoki always goes in my build because of his 20% damage reduction. It's pretty much essential for me. Then I go with one core for attacking and repositioning (Ipon-Datara is goated for this) and the last one is probably Nupepo as he can come handy because of his damage buff. Every Soul Core should contribute to anima Generation as well.
>>728583257what does the rat fart soul core even do
>>728616772This but water spells.
I think nioh 2 is a straight upgrade but that's assuming you like the game for the same reasons I do, it's an ARPG (think diablo/poe). First play through is more similar to a souls like experience but once you beat it once, it's all about gear and builds, it stops being so hard and starts being about how retardedly powerful you can get. If you just want a soulsy experience with better combat but worse level design, play both. If you want a huge time sink of an argp then go with 2.
>>728617426You do a brap. Good for photo mode
>>728617426it stinks, literally also look at the enemy's ki
>>728616912Just because the dodges have 10 iframes instead of 20 (unless you roll in high stance) doesn't mean dodges are only for repositioning. Parries are very simple and easy to use and blocking is reliable unless you're naked and can only be better. Attacks that do heavy Break and shouldn't be blocked are slower just as you say which makes them easier to dodge.
I genuinely nioh 3 will be the best out of the 3. The alpha demo impressed me that much. Hope the pc demo runs well, id rather have the game on pc
>>728619198he became SO japanese, it was his idea to kick out ALL gaijin except the dutch who weren't trying to convert the local population
>>728619592https://youtu.be/ClmWZX28ARg
I still don't get tonfas, I feel like I do piss against enemies, but you guys make them sound like insane shredders
>>728577003>Soulsclone for people who hate fromgoat
>>728580874What game?
>>728619884you use tonfas if your build is ki damage focused unless you mean the first game, tonfas in that one are on the weaker side compared to something like the kusarigama
>>728619971Shadow Hearts, the first one.
>>728611182surely there'll be a mod fixing that soon after release
I can't believe that Team Ninja had the gall to copy Dark Soul's mission based structure, diablo loot, skill trees, and stance system, From should have sued them back when the first game came out
>>728620336WTF team ninja?
>>728620390I wish that swords were real
I'm finding DotN just cancer and not fun bros....
>>728620809have you tried making an op build?
>>728620880>need to grind depths to get graces to get better gearIt's Monster Hunter all over againI think I might just be burnt out
>>728619884At this point it would be faster for you to post a video of you fighting a boss so I could tell you exactly what you're doing right and wrong.>>728620023Tonfas in Nioh 1 are still extremely strong, the only reason some people thought they weren't was because they didn't have something like an Iai loop despite having Tonfa Gun, Mountain Breaker and Urgency, and they were bad at the game.
>>728577257Instead is crazy but Wo Long is also good
>>728620809I just forced both n1 and n2 with le ball, chain and sickle of obliterationthe high stance heavy attack is no fucking joke and it will make the game boring for you because of how good it is
>>728620970I liked some of the ideas in Wo Long, but I can't help but shake the idea that the game was designed with you using the npc ally as the baseline for most of the content. Doubly so when armor sets are locked behind getting the max reputation with each one.
I love odachi and axe but they feel so stale, am I missing something?
>>728621204Odachi is the only weapon that can counter Yokai, and you can play it as the Moonlit snow spam, or play around with the constant stance switching gimmick it has. Axe is just big hits, big guard breaks, and sometimes spin to win damage till exhausted and do it again.
>>728621334I wish Axe didn't have such garbage mystic arts.
That four guardians mission in Tengus Disciple can get fucked
Is Stranger of Paradise any good?
>>728621031Every armour set you can get from the reputation system you can get otherwise, oftentimes even faster than you would doing so. They weren't smart enough to have the unique dialogue they have play even when they're not there like in SoP but I don't see any reason to assume the game was intended to always have NPCs with you, they just knew a lot of people like a lot of the characters.>>728622840Very very good.
>4chanOdachi, Axe, Dual Swords, Hatchets>reddit Everything else
>>728623739Fuck you
>>728577046its mission based, it cant be dark souls
>>728620809Make a corruption fist build.
>>728619884If you're willing to engage with the RPG aspect of the game consider finding ways to use Water and Poison. Saturated is like a 20% increase to physical hits and since Tonfa hits a lot you can easily proc it and do a ton of extra damage.
>>728622840It's incredibly fun and very unique
>>728622840yes, it's actually good story included
>>728610241I just punched him to death
Bros... Nioh 3 is lower in the Steam top sellers than Code Vein 2. I think it might unironically be over for the franchise and for Team Ninja
>>728628312
Nioh and SoP are excellent but be aware their loot system is cancerous.
>>728628312Go woke go broke
>>728628312Nioh 2 had less peak concurrent players on Steam than Lords of the Fallen, who cares we know that it's a niche genre. I've seen a few anons hyped for Code Vein 2 so I hope for them that it'll be good
>>728577257This Wo Longs first level has a better boss than every single boss in Nioh
>>728583725There is no reason to start with 1 unless you purposely feel like playing a decent length inferior in every facet clone of the same general game simply because well maybe I’ll get overwhelmed by new mechanics
>>728628312I already preordered both
Just buyed boughted it, what am i in for? I will play it after FFXVI
>>728630903I like that they've even put hairs on his ballsack, Nioh taking it's monsters from the wild jap folklore has always been one of its coolest features
>>728577003Dark Souls has weapon classes, yes, but within those classes the weapons are pretty unique.Nioh has 12 weapon classes, and every weapon within its class plays the same. An early-game katana is going to have the same exact moveset as a late-game katana. The difference? Numbers. Thast's it.Nobody ever mentions this but that's the hard truth. You get all the weapon classes available at the start, pick one, and you're going to be playing the same exact moveset forever
>>728577003dunno, i like aspects of it but overall i fucking hate it, i'm just not autistic enough for this type of gamealso the game isn't exactly hard but it's full of retarded bs like placing two tengu demons on a narrow edge where you can fall off, i find stuff like that just tedious and annoying
it's 90% off blud, just get it
>>728631543I’ve mentioned this but I’ll actually go farther:None of the weapons actually play differently at all. Kusarigama plays exactly like 1kat which plays exactly like 2kat which plays exactly like fists. You have enough base movement and forward movement in attacks that range doesn’t matter, you have your ki damaging attacks, you have your ki broken high dps attacks, and utility sporadically placed. It doesn’t matter what weapon you use you’re going to be playing the same way. You dodge/block, attack, ki pulse, break ki then punish. It’s not a nuanced game, if you can play one weapon you can pick up any of them with zero learning curve.It’s not like a game like monster hunter for instance
>>728628312Code vein mechanically is better than nioh, the only advantage nioh has is the combat not feeling like shit.
>>7286315431. 1kat has more moves than all swords in DS put together2. you need to unlock the skills so your moveset stops changing only dozens of hours into the gameBut you already knew this, or maybe you haven't played the game so you didn't
i got filtered by the ki pulse
>>728631831Bro you don’t get it when I spam iai slash on 1kat it’s totally different than spamming sotc on 2kat
>>728632007The most meaningful 1kat ability is the backstab damage hidden art, you get all the staples like haze and morning moon pretty early even iai isn’t that long
>>728631831they could remove everything but spear and I'd still be happy
>>728612930Spells are still there just more convoluted to use, soul core summons can delete like a third of a boss health bar. It seems even cheesier than before.
im trying to learn nioh 2, just beat enenra and he wasnt too bad, but was just wondering if i'm screwing over my fundamentals long term by focusing only on one weapon for the time being. i barely even remember to use half of the tools available to me (like soul cores) at any given moment as is, and that's when i'm NOT fucking up my inputs and ki pulses
>>728619884Troonfa is a shit weapon for ADHD fags who need to mash even more buttons to have fun.
>>728634107>just wondering if i'm screwing over my fundamentals long term by focusing only on one weapon for the time beingon the contrary, at the beginning every weapon is quite gimped since you have minimal access to skills, so it's better to grow with only one weapon type as you learn the ins and outs of the game. Later on switching to another weapon might be a bit annoying because you'll have no proficiency but there's a boss called Daidara that lets you farm it pretty quickly, the negative is that you'll have on your hands a weapon that you don't know how to use with a bunch of skills already unlocked but by then you'll already know the other mechanics of the game so you'll adapt quickly.Of course this doesn't mean that you shouldn't experiment with all weapons from the get go if you're curious or if you grow bored of your initial pick
>>728634107Swapping weapons too much will do the opposite by not letting you get a grounded sense of those fundamentals. It's worth putting them on and swinging them around a little to see if you like them so you can pick one to focus on, but take your time getting to grips with just a few things at a time. Much of what you learn with Ki Pulsing, stance usage and spending Anima will transfer across when you're ready, and sidemissions are particularly good for helping make sure you practice as you proceed, so each encounter or between each shrine pick something to focus on.
>>728628312Code Vein 2 will release first and all the souls babies will buy it, then a week later Nioh 3 will release and the same people will all be too burnt out to buy it. Only actual Nioh fans will be buying 3
>>728634453>>728635361>on the contrarysweet, thanks for the detailed responses. i had to ask since i just got ninjitsu and the next tier of skill upgrades, so it seemed like a now-or-never kind of moment to really start practicing how to properly spin multiple plates at once, even if the game isn't epicly hardcore enough at this point to necessitate that yet
>>728636383the game gives you a lot of tools, but you can get very far even at high difficulties with super a basic playstyle if you want, although learning a wide array of techniques makes things more fun and more efficient of course. You won't really encounter any hard wall just because you haven't learned some specific technique, so you can take your time with no pressure. The game is much less hardcore than its fame would suggest aside from the super endgame levels, it's punishing but your character is very powerful and there are a lot of ways to cheese basically anything
>>728628312Damn... I'm still going to buy
>>728636194Same way Ronin competed with DD2
>>728640590Team Ninja needs to learn to stop releasing their games on the same day/week as other high profile games before it's too late.
>>728577003Samurai kino. Goes to show Team Ninja still got it when they give a shit about the project.
>>728619884Tonfa is for if you absolutely fucking despise seeing your enemies have ki at any point at all. The way of the toonf is one of low damage but absolute dominance over the fight through smothering your opponent and not letting them get a chance to stand up.
