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ITT: gaems you dont understand the appeal of
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>>728946852
its the defeacto pc fps game. a lot of people grew up playing it. the gameplay is fun. in older versions you had fun mods like zombies, surf, prophunt, jail break, etc and not just sweaty crybaby niggas on comp only grinding their rank like cs2.
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>>728946852
It's because you suck
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>>728946852
i dont get the appeal of any multiplayer games
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>>728946852
it's just COD/Fortnite equivalent for eastern europeans that's free, on PC, and historically easy to run. west cs players dont get how popular CS is in a lot of eastern european countries, where pretty much every guy in high school plays either cs 1.6 or source or go or 2 growing up, not sure if that's changing nowadays with other popular f2p games like league, valorant, fortnite etc, but that's how it used to be in 2010s
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>>728946852
EZ4ENCE ENCE ENCE DENS PUTTED UPPERBELT PUTTED UPPERBELT
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>>728947039
halo is better than CS though
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>>728947215
i dont know i have never owned a xbox or played halo, i dont like the way the guns look and it isnt really known here
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>>728946852
It's an FPS, what's not to get?
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>>728947641
I don't get how people spend half their paycheck on video game knives and skins and spend half of their free time discussing and watching the pro scene
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>>728946852
there is RNG involved with every single bullet you fire. this fascinates the human brain because we evolved to find patterns in a chaotic world. by comparison games where you know exactly what will happen in advance feel sterile, less real.

a side effect of this is that at lower skill levels even a noob can get lucky and land some crazy shots while the slightly better noob misses due to RNG. so you get fair feeling competition even at the lowest skill levels. this is a big "onboarding" advantage over some other genres where skill leads to success more reliably, more clearly. it's easier to start playing and have enough fun early on to push past any friction, than most games are.
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>>728947943
That's not really CS then
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>>728948030
Then why is the biggest CS streamer only famous for hitting the occasional jackpot on stream?
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>>728947943
most people dont have skins, or maybe open a case once a year or something, the big traders are usually gambling sites and rich manchildren from russia/saudis/china trading with each other and trying to one up each other or showoff their shit by giving skins to pros, and ofc ecelebs trying to get views by opening a bunch of cases and flexing knives or acting mad that they are getting shit drops so kids get happy. and while cs esports is pretty popular, its usually only more hardcore viewers that watch it, before there used to be a incentive to watch because you could get drops like cobblestone packages which could go for about $25 up to hundreds of dollars, but don't think that's available anymore so mostly only people actually interested in the esports watch.
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>>728948008
holy retard
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I have 2800 elo on faceit which puts me above 99.9% of subhuman v posters
the game is bad, only played by thirdworld animals and the esport scene is just a fucking comedy to promote gambling and le skins
literal gambling websites are the main sponsors or the tourneys, wake up double digit iq balkanoids or whatever shithole you all come from
sub 2k elo faceit shant reply to my post
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>>728949608
>wasted his youth trying to go pro
>is so dogshit he couldnt end up even in a radarhack team to farm some money in t3
>seethes impotently on 4chan
KWAB
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>>728948008
>there is RNG involved with every single bullet you fire
wrong. stopped reading right there.
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>>728949608
post proof of your faceit elo
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>>728946852
I played it on thursday. It's a very stressful game, I prefer the more casual atmosphere of Battlefield 1.
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>>728946852
Stardew Valley
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>>728946852
cs is the online chess of vidya
>easy to pick up
>hard to master
>full of cheaters
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>>728949608
>thirdie friendly fire
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>>728947215
You will not find a soul that thinks this that isn't heavily nostalgic for Halo from when they were a kid, just like you will struggle to find Halo fans in general that didn't play it as kids. There's a reason the MCC is deader than 1.6.
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CS esports is mostly just watched for YAOI, here's a cute couple that plays for a saudi team, they both have gfs and cheat on them to be together, the older guy is a serbian and the twink is a russian, and they've been dating for a couple of years now. nsfw pic of them here
https://files.catbox.moe/f5b8e6.jpg
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Gacha, it's probably the only type of video game/model out there that I can not help but have the wisdom that the people (I use the term people generously here) are legitimately sub-human. I've also seen first-hand on how it rots and breaks people—for life.
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>>728946852
every game released between 2000 and now
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ELO is the worst thing to happen to online games.
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>>728949871
it would have taken you ONE counter-example, yet you didn't provide it. curious.
inb4 zeus (not a bullet)
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>>728949608
post league xp
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>>728953447
There really isn't though. Weapon recoil sprays follow the exact same pattern every time. Only shots while moving have random spread added, but the deviation is to such a high degree that your bullets might as well not even exist if you fire while moving. Aside from the handful of guns not affected by movement inaccuracy.
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>>728953447
if you mean inaccuracy the RNG is negligible for 90% of firefights because of the close ranges

for shotguns and moving while shooting you have a point
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>>728946852
I do understand. I've spent countless hours playing CS1.6. Online and on LAN back in the day.
It is a quality game. It is a very stable and well optimized piece of software by itself. (yeah, it sometimes shat the pants and lagged like ass). Compared to modern day games anyway.
The gameplay is fine/good. Movement is great. Shooting weapons in the game itself feels good.
It is no wonder that Counter-Strike 2 is popular. I've never played the second one yet, but from what I understand, it's basically 1.6 or first source but with improved graphics. If so, the game can be massive fun.
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>>728953845
>Only shots while moving have random spread added
wrong. even the AWP has random spread in every single shot, it's just tiny once you're stationary and scoped but it's still there.

>>728953904
>if you mean inaccuracy the RNG is negligible for 90% of firefights because of the close ranges
in practice more shots are fired while slightly moving than while being completely still, so the RNG factors into actual gun fights a lot more than you suggest. and this never changes, no matter how high the skill. look at pros. they bob and weave like crazy in CS2. they have more bullets fired while truly still, but about as many while moving. what they leave behind is the inbetween zone where you're moving unintentionally while firing. good movement in CS2 is all about eliminating that inbetween zone and only firing while moving intentionally, not unintentionally.

another thing to consider is also that the meta always favors taking closer range fights precisely because of the RNG issue. if there was no RNG you would see riflers a lot more willing to take long range fights, for example in dust2 long. RNG plays a big role in creating the meta where you consciously avoid the pit to site fights (from both sides) and Ts or retaking CTs hug the inside wall until they get to car, and CTs or postplant Ts hide behind the boxes and at most jiggle / shoulder peek long, favoring to fight when the enemy is closer. this is an invisible factor when you just look at gun fights that actually take place. you're not seeing the outcomes of all the fights RNG would have influenced, because (at least higher level) players consciously avoid those.
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>>728954548
no it doesn't, every weapon has different recoil patterns and different reaction to jumping or stationary shots at different shooting distances. some guns have very good stationary first shot accuracy where you cannot miss, you cant be comparing a deagle, an awp, an ak, and a mp9 and claiming its the same for all of them. they all have for the most part controllable known recoils and at specific distances you are guaranteed a first accuracy at 99.9% which can be rounded up in real terms to 100% if you use a close distance deagle, or mid distance AK, or a scoped in awp. CS's biggest issues are related to cheaters and hit registry because of tickrate, but in terms of actual shots and recoil it's very consistent
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>>728954548
>if there was no RNG you would see riflers a lot more willing to take long range fights, for example in dust2 long.
no, riflers avoid them because of AWP existing.
>you consciously avoid the pit to site fights (from both sides)
yeah planting for pit is unheard of and NOBODY does it right?
>Ts or retaking CTs hug the inside wall until they get to car
well no shit because it forces site to peek for info instead of playing 20 different headshot angles
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>>728946852
I hate CS but I understand the appeal of it. Can you really not imagine a different perspective?
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>>728954548
>even the AWP has random spread in every single shot, it's just tiny once you're stationary and scoped but it's still there.
I've never seen someone more incorrect than this.
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>>728949608
truth nuke
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>cs thread
>no schizo posting cheating webms calling every pro a cheater
how
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>>728955349
havent seen him in a while, maybe he got banned or had a heart attack
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>>728954732
>if you're close enough they don't have random spread... except they do... but it's like 99% so let's round up to 100%
I accept your concession. also please stop talking about recoil. nobody else mentioned recoil.

>CS's biggest issues
my original post literally pointed the RNG out as a thing that makes CS2 more successful. it's an objective truth that RNG makes the game more popular. Valve agree or they would have removed it decades ago.

>in terms of actual shots and [redacted] it's very consistent
just less consistent than every other shooter on the market pretty much, but if you round up...
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>>728955446
no game has perfect shots as long as they have bullet drop or recoil patterns, not sure how this confuses you. do you think PUBG or Fortnite or valorant or overwatch have perfect hit registry and completely consistent gameplay? you can go play valo now in dm and have some guy with high ping rape you on a peek despite you in theory having an advantage with lower ping. the point is that every single player on the server has the same issues, so by basic math everyone will sometimes get fucked over and everyone will sometimes get an advantage which on average will equalize in the end.
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>>728955446
NTA but are you talking about how all the gun accuracy is technically come shaped to make stuff less effective at longer ranges? I guess you could *kinda* think of that as RNG, but it's the only way to enforce weapon ranges in a hitscan system without making damage dropoff huge. It's not functional accuracy rng though, just a way to discourage sniping with pistols and shit. If you are within a weapons range (can hit 30cm dinner plate at this range 100% of the time) it is entirely a game about crosshair placement.
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>Valorant
chink immigrants living in Western countries and women are, for some reason, obsessed with this game despite how niggery the graphics are.
>Any game published by EA
Why the fuck are wiggers obsessed with FIFA when they release the same fucking game every year? Why are retards willing to shill £60 for their shitty games?
>Any vidya over $20
You are a retard faggot to fork out this much money for vidya. You are asking to get cucked by Triple AAA studios.
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>>728956059
I can understand why someone would pour hundreds of hours in CS but not Valorant, such a retarded fucking game.
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>>728957271
I am convinced you need to be a non-white, faggot or a woman to enjoy valorant
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>>728957527
Valorant is just CS for retards. That's a game with true RNG recoil, and you are stuck using one kind of util for an entire match because of their shitty hero system
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>>728946852
CS has the lowest entry barrier compared to any other multiplayer shooter out there. You can just get on and learn the game in couple days. TTK is super low so even if you have shit aim you still can spray and pray to get easy kills against much better players.
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>>728953447
>>728949871
>>728948008
>shoot guy in face he no die
>get shot in face and die

how do i play this game
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>>728957967
Maybe if you're playing deathmatch. In normal casual mode you'll spend most of the time not getting to play the game due to the no respawns, and you'll learn nothing from your deaths due to the lack of feedback.
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>>728957967
yeah no, I've tried introducing a bunch of my cod/bf etc. playing friends to cs and they struggle to get a single frag in matches lol
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>>728958157
Do more corner peeks since the game is a ping contest.
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>>728957967
took me forever to stop sucking dick at but it also made me better at every other fps through fundamentals
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>>728955003
most riflers still avoid long range fights even when they know there's no awp, because they would rather take the fight on their terms than leave it up to RNG. also objectively an AK user should avoid long range fights against M4 users. theoretically M4 users should push for fights at longer distance against AKs but the threat of a T side awp tempers them.

>>728955281
it is a measurable fact. why would you deny a measurable fact when you have the whole internet at your fingertips? you could just look it up.

>>728955703
>no game has perfect shots as long as they have bullet drop or recoil patterns
very, very few games have bullet drop. Battlefield and what else?
I'm not even gonna respond to the repeated mention of recoil. focus on first bullet accuracy.

>>728955780
>NTA but are you talking about how all the gun accuracy is technically come shaped to make stuff less effective at longer ranges?
yes. this is typically called "spread" in CS.

>I guess you could *kinda* think of that as RNG
no, not kinda. actually. it is actual (pseudo-)random numbers deciding where the raycast representing the bullet goes. this isn't some thought experiment, it's how CS2's code literally works.

>It's not functional accuracy rng though
yes, it is.

>If you are within a weapons range
and perfectly stationary, and haven't jumped recently.
all you're saying is that the spread is small and you can play around it, not that it doesn't exist or doesn't matter. the fact that players have to know how to avoid it says it all. it does matter, it's very important. CS is unthinkable without random spread.
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>>728958241
the higher your ping, the bigger your peeker's advantage. but also the higher your disadvantage when getting peeked. swing or get swung meta.
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>>728957967
i disagree tbf, i think battle royales are very easy, footsteps dont matter, there's tons of bots you face, playerbase is younger and more casual, and there's more controllerfags, there's no ability/utility lineups or executes to learn, there's no real skill required except for aiming. the moment you get to slightly better players in CS you'll be getting raped if your fundamentals arent perfect like knowing all angles, prefires, flashes, and its a very punishing game in terms of economy, very simple but mistakes easily pile up and lose you the game. i havent played every game, but i struggled to get to high elo in cs much more than i did in r6s, valo, and overwatch.
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>>728958342
the AWP does not have any bullet deviation when you aren't scoped and not moving. it has a line of code for it because every weapon does, but it's literally 0. You will only ever miss an AWP shot due to movement inaccuracy. It's just not correct to think it still has any amount of RNG
and spread is only important when outside a weapons range. if you are within the range, you will be able to hit a headshot 100% of the time. I cannot think of this as unbalanced randomness when it's the only thing stopping the dealer from being a pocket AWP. We know what that problem looks like, they did it when the revolver came out.
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>>728958512
>there's more controllerfags
that makes those games harder unless you also use a controller. all MP FPS with controller support give massive aim assist, except CS.
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>>728949718
The only bitch here is you faggot
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>>728958827
LEWD
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>>728958342
>very, very few games have bullet drop. Battlefield and what else?
>arma
>squad
>hell let loose
>tarkov
>pubg
>fortnite
>hunt: showdown
>insurgency
>rising storm
>enlisted
...
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>>728958925
dont bother man, you're talking to a retard
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>>728958925
even cod has bullet drop these days. very few shooters are just hitscan.
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>>728958704
>it's literally 0
news to me because I distinctly remember it not being 0 in CSGO. did they really change it or are you making things up?

>>728958827
they're sharing t-shirts at this point? while playing for saudi org? lmfao
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>>728958827
sharing clothes is gay? I just gave my underwear to one of the lads because he pissed himself drunk
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>>728959004
I looked it up to be sure and it's spread is 0.0017 degrees. you would have to be so many hundreds of meters away before a miss even became possible that I always thought it was 0. It's functionally 0 for every map in the game due to size
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>>728959120
they were just roommates
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>>728959120
m0nesy is wearing niko's shirt because he pissed on his own shirt while drunk. clearly.
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>>728946852
League of Legends I'll never understand how niggas crowd around that shit and cheer it looks like the most boring shit and meanwhile fighting games are much easier to understand
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>>728959336
>hey bro want a shirt? this one's too loose/tight
>yeah sure
do you not have friends
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>>728946852
Most ASSFAGGOTS games. Especially League and DOTA. I get it people want to fuck the girls, but how is it fun to play the same map over and over again for hundreds if not thousands of hours?
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>>728958827
sharing clothes is whatever. what would be gay is if they owned matching shirts
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>>728959336
niko would NEVER EVER EVER NEVER bring his twink femboy boytoy with him everywhere he goes and neglect his gf for him
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As expected of /v/ for the video game discussion thread to devolve into talking about the sex lives of people who play video games.
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>>728959623
that's a funny pic but it looks like they're flying in a private plane, probably to an event and she is just flying with the team
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>>728946852
its not a game but a job. part time job. pays less and less every year.
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>>728959536
its cozy to turn your brain off and play something you've played a billion times and are good at doe
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>>728946852
This guy is unironically fun to play when you have normal functioning humans on either team.
Once you have russians or any slavs in the lobby, it becomes a total fucking mess. They don't look to do the objective or try to form a cohesive plan, they just try to get kills but eat shit in the process.

I've unironically had better experience fighting alongside arabs and albanians than with russians.
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>>728946852
It's good with friends, you wouldn't understand.
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>>728946852
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>>728947215
Never was, bottom of the barrel trash FPS for NPCs who never played one before.
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>>728946852
It's gun cope for Europeans. It's like how airsoft is very popular
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>>728960014
i think most cancerous in cs are turks and russians, but mostly because they're big countries so you get a lot of their players and they often times queue up together and just refuse to talk in english or dont know english. but most team games are best if you have friends you can play with, i enjoyed climbing in cs the most when i had a irl duo friend, makes it so much better if you get cancer lobbies and you can never get troll kicked by premades either
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>>728947943
Most people don't care about skins, just open a random deathmatch and everyone will either be using nothing or just some shit you get on a random drop. The pro thing is just nerd sportsball.
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>>728960014
I have 1700 hours in cs and 0 solo queue ranked matches, usually with at least a 3-stack
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>>728946852
It's not for zoomers. Stay on Fortnite.
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>>728960157
>sports games are hugely popular in the US because the population is too out of shape to play them irl
you're on to something here...
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>>728960473
>sports games are popular in the US
Wrong again. Sports games died in the 2010's and have been replaced by battle royale games. In Europe sports games are incredibly popular still. Europe effectively is 10 years behind the US
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Why would I play CS over R6?
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>>728960635
only sports game that is popular in Europe is FIFA, mostly because its *the* sportsball of the world, but im pretty sure NBA 2K is pretty damn popular in US, its just that NBA is a much smaller sports than football so obviously the game is gonna be less talked about too
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>>728960635
guess again
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>>728960745
r6s stopped being good after like 1-2 years when they went from badass agents to trannies and literal wheelchair users. its a comedy of a game at this point, completely ZOGGED by mentally ill devs. it was good when OG agents were most of the game's characters like, jager/bandit (my old mains), glaz, tachanka, ash, thermite, mute, sledge, etc. then it went to coombrain tranny shit
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>>728947190
>MAYBE ILL SEE YOU IN HELL LETS GOOO
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>>728948008
The RNG part of spraying only matters when you suck, because it's meant to stop you from dropping a whole mag, shooting while running or shooting like a retard 50 meters away from the enemy. If you can compensate for the recoil and know the basic of movement, it doesn't vary that much.
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I hated R6's 1shot headshot 0recoil gunplay, add the fact that you need to memorize 20x the angles a cs map has it becomes really frustrating not even counting the gadget bullshit
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>>728960745
R6 is still a thing?
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>>728960956
If you look past the tranny shit the actual gameplay is much better than cs 2 and improved since the early siege days.
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>>728960635
you say this as if fortnite adjacent slop were an improvement over sports games
good on them for still playing what they like
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Monastery when
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>>728961171
i just cant take it seriously, most of my friends quit it with the zogging so it stopped being fun and i quit shortly after. i never felt that it felt better to play than cs, r6s never stops being frustrating with pixel peeks and little things in maps that people abuse and you have to no life to learn and i'd only do that much time investment for a game i really like, i only came to high plat with good kd around 1.31 and quit it afterwards since i felt to get any higher i'd have to be a complete sweaty chud and i was already starting to watch guides on yt for maps and operators
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>>728946852
I like how the music kits can be used as psychological weapon kinda unique for a multiplayer game
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forsen
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>>728955349
you mean the shroud spammer? he's a funny guy
I wonder why shroud specifically, he was never that relevant and got bad fast
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>>728948008
>RNG involved
That sentence applies more to Valorant and not that much for CS2
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>>728961510
>i felt to get any higher i'd have to be a complete sweaty chud
This is true for every competitive multiplayer game
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>>728949608
i have 2500 elo
anything below 3.7k elo isnt that impressive
but I do agree that cs2 is dogshit and needs improvement
the esports scene is literally the best it has been though and you are wrong with that one
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>>728957271
Valorant is CS for women and faggots, unironically. You can play CS all day and see none of those, but you open Valorant and they are everywhere. Something about the heroes or the graphics.
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>>728961795
yeah in every cs thread there's a schizo posting webms of pros being cheaters, and its usually older shit like shroud/flusha etc. i kinda miss the retard, it was reassuring to know that no matter what happens in the world the cheater schizo will show up when a cs thread happens on v.
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>>728961171
yeah, using a tp around the map and instakilling you with a bazooka is peak tactical fps gameplay
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>>728961981
cute
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>>728961609
I don't mind getting my team fragged by someone using Neck Deep's music kit or the Halo music kit but God forbid if someone uses that fucking libtard faggot cancuck track u mad by bbnos I will genuinely lock the fuck in just so I won't listen to that disgusting fucking song
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>>728962096
>instakilling you with a bazooka
what operator is this supposed to be?
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>play cs2
>go insane and start talking about witch curses on your family while listening to manifestations and tweaking out on stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCR-2Dpx9_8
why are gamers like this
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>>728946852
I understand the appeal of CS, what I don’t understand is how little CS2 actually changed (not to mention improved) compared to GO. The 2 in the title is probably the biggest hype rugpull ever witnessed in videogames. They didn’t even add a single fucking gun.
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>>728961875
not true, i know women who have played cs. I personally do not think it is a game, but a job so when i see a woman playing cs i just tell her to open OF, not because i am offensive but because she will make more money. Ofcourse, bitches do not understand that case farming is worse than selling nudes and get offended as if i was not just making solid business logic.
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>>728962679
Besides graphics it's an actual downgrade. It's still missing maps and whole game modes from CSGO. Valve just wanted to move the codebase to Source 2.
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>>728946852
I have 800 hours in this bitch but havent played ranked since csgo, might go back into it
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do I have to use a mic to play cs2
having to talk while playing a game seems annoying
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>>728962814
Same but I don't think I will. The scores shit and the rank per map shit killed all my enthusiasm for chasing ranks.
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>>728962679
its pretty much just like overwatch 2, there was a lot of stuff changed underneath to modernize the engine and get on source 2, but CS has always been a 5v5 game with mostly the same guns on mostly the same maps, it's like changing football or chess, you cant do too much without it no longer being CS. But they added changed the way loadouts work so you can have multiple guns you'd like like M4A1S and M4A4 both, reworked most textures, maps, skins with small changes and improvements, and made a big change to way animations work, now you can actually see your body and legs, and also the way smokes work.
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>>728962882
If you play any of the ranked modes that require some team coordination, yes. Otherwise, nope.
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>>728962882
they added pings in cs2, so you can ping where the guy who killed you is or other stuff too, but it is kind of expected that you use a mic in ranked. if you play casual, death match, community servers etc you dont need to worry, most people there dont care and dont use mics. but if you're from europe, you'll often times get non english speakers anyway who you wont even be able to communicate with, so just writing out in chat, they're 3 b or bomb here, is fine enough if they can understand that lol
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>>728962904
The animation thing is literally just catching up to CSGO. It's unreal it took this long, it made tracking enemies almost unpredictable in some circunstancies.
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>>728963081
im guessing there was a lot of spaghetti code so they had to rework it all, they said the animations before used to really rape ping and cpu, and are now much more cpu and internet friendly. i think overall cs2 improved upon a lot but valve are lazy bastards who have teams of like 5 veteran boomers working on their games, and they make glacial slow progress on implementing stuff. but traditionally in the past i remember in 2016/2017 everyone saying how valve loves dota 2 and hates cs, and now years later everyone in dota 2 and tf2 is crying that valve hates them lol
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>>728963039
All that and GO was still smoother and more predictable. The whole subtick and whatever else they did was just bullshit.
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>>728962274
I bought EZ4ENCE music kit, but i rarely get mvp
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>>728963308
I guess that was for >>728962904
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>>728963417
>but i rarely get mvp
bro...
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>>728963445
Yes. As for animations, that's how it looked before. 2 years to fix this.
https://x.com/ThourCS2/status/1990507460734693538
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>>728963585
honestly for valve 2 years is pretty impressively fast
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>>728962449
>witch curses on your family
That's a real thing sometimes THOUGH.
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I miss CSGO.
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>>728962814
casual is surprisingly fun in 2 since they toned it down to 10v10 from the 15v15? clusterfuck it was
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>>728963875
same, it had good arms race maps like monastery and safe house so it wasn't absolute shit like it is right now
can't fucking believe they remastered fucking shoots, the worst arms race map and ruined baggage
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>>728964187
even weirder that when they first announced CS2, they showed a remastered Lake screenshot and its STILL not in the game
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>>728964456
same with canals, several screenshots that looked totally finished. two years later it's not in the game.
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>>728946852
Why would anyone in the west play a game for russians?
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>>728946852
do people actually play this? i thought it was just like a money laundering/gambling scam?
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>>728964856
cute russian girls play it so it cant be evil
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>cant get $100 case anymore
ded game
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i tried playing this last night again and everyone is either very mean or cheating
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>>728965551
when you get people who are nice in game add them as friends and ask if they want to play so you can play with premades who arent assholes. but in competitive games you will always run into unhinged schizoids, i have had people on league i argue with in game, and then they spend the next 5 days sending me friend requests that i accept and delete to rant in chat about how they'll kill my family, its pretty funny
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>>728965551
>everyone is either very mean
stick to valorant, faggot
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>>728968520
there are no faggots on 4chan
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>>728946852
>Slow movment speed with way too big maps
>Actual compact maps are either repeated arena's with slight edits or reused via back tracking
>Extremely small weapon variety
>Half of said weapons feel and sound bad
I say this as someone that likes all the other Halo games from 2 to Reach. Bungie managed to really improve on the formula but my God I don't know what people saw in this first one or still do today.

Still, good for (old) Bungie for doing so much with it since I never would've expected such a glow up at the time.
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>>728968713
you are the only one
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>>728947215
bait used to be believable
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>>728968909
no one cares about gaylo
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>>728965551
>everyone is either very mean
That's a feature
>or cheating
*better than me
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>>728958704
I'll cut you some slack because I actually didn't know this until recently, but the awp does still have spread when you are standing still and hardscoped. They added the thinner area at the center of the crosshair to show possible spread like a month or 2 ago.
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>>728970352
i think you're underestimating how easy it is to cheat in a free to play game
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>>728970472
Go ahead and show us. Everyone loves to say CS is full of cheaters but 90% of the cases it's just skill issue.
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>>728959164
nitpick: the spread values are in radians, not degrees.
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A friend if mine did gamba on the skins he had and now has nearly 1000 dollaridoos on his steam wallet. I suppose one appeal to this game is to farm skins and get lucky so you can fund your future vidya.
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>>728971193
Game's fun, making money on free skins is just an extra.
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>>728962778
>and whole game modes from CSGO.
I used to like hopping on to play Demolition. Fun maps and variety of weaponry since everyone couldn't stick to one weapon every time. I doubt it will ever be brought back however.



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