The faster AI takes over the Video Game industry, the faster these people will leave.
>>729027851Jeet >>>/out/
>>729027851I hate journos more than I hate people who use AI as a tool by a considerable degree, so I side with the AI users.
AI just tells you want you want to hearThere's no room for human retardation which is where genius thrivesIt doesn't belong in creative spaces
>>729027851Pretty much everyone who actually makes games has said they use AI and have no intention to stop.A few hundred angry twitter trannies will not change anything any more than luddites reversed the industrial revolution.
Aren't journos the ones that constantly smear games that aren't safe, bland, milquetoast shit?
>we need to replace garbage with garbageWhy?
>>729028018I thought only indians used AIWhat happened?
>>729027851game journos did far more damage to the industry over the past 15 years than AI has so far
>if we want videogames to remain interesting
>if we want videogames remain interesting
>>729028083depends on what you mean by safe, bland and milquetoastthey always smear shit that isn't filled with gays and progressive-left messaging if that's what you mean
>>729028252>>729028267Bobmind.
>>729027851We should ban synthesizers because they steal musician jobs.Wait... Why can we still listen to whole orchestras?BECAUSE THEY STILL MANAGE TO DELIVER,Get fucked you bunch of pampered babies.
>>729028226Everyone is using AI. If you are not using AI in your job you are lagging behind and will be replaced by someone using AI. Its such a massive productivity boost.
Come on, bros! We can get rid of those GARBAGE modern games by buying ones with content generated by AI trained on content from those garbage games! I can't wait for all these companies to hire me to do the prompting for them, surely I'll be their first pick. 2026 will be my year, finally!
>>729028252>>729028267eat shit. e33 is just paper mario with shittier stacking mechanics
>>729027851and we will fail when the next generation grows up because they grew up on it.It happened before due to mobile games, leading to an era of MTX, gachas and numerous other greedy practices. We constantly pushed back on that shit for years during the mid-00's and here we are. Full priced games with layers of greed, F2P garbage with aggressive mechanics trying to break you down into paying like it's a 2000's korean MMO or some sort of nexon garbage.Fuck, with the advent of free engines and assets, we also have an era of asset-flips that makes the shovelware era look like quality.It's been fucked for over 15 years, and while there have been decent games, there's been way too much garbage. AI is just going to be another drop in the bucket at this point.
>>729028345I hope your attitude won't change when your job will be next
Gabe is never wrong.
>>729027851you lost trannynobody will ever play any of your trash ever againevery single thing you taint will be as utterly rejected as you are in real lifewe will just make our own games, movies and music and move on without you
>>729028394I have not seen one second of footage from E33, and do not care enough to change that.I'm unlikely to ever play it, not because I have some irrational hatred, but because I just don't care.Kill yourself.
>>729028394E33 delivered.CAN YOU?
>>729027939Why did you make this post? Your genius can only be brought down by human retardation.
>>729027851And the faster I stop buying games.
>>729027938You sound like an absolute retard. Think for yourself for once instead of making your opinions around others
>>729028226Trannies figured calling you Indian would resonate better with 4chan users than calling you a nazi chud bigot who won't support transqueer xitter artists. So far in these last 10 days, the following have come out supporting the use of AI to develop games:>Larian/Sven>Expedition 33 devs>Hideo and Kojima >Warhorse>Jonathan Blow>Embark (Arc Raiders)>CDPR>Gaben>a lot more I'm missingWhat a horrible week to have an axewound
>>729028503Because you weren't put on this Earth to tell me yes.Because you were put on this Earth to call me racial terms not repeatable in corporate boardroom powerpoint presentations.
>>729028590Nice try.
>>729028463Me? Accelerate! Let's Go!
>>729028590Good morning
>>729028623If you insist, nigger.
>>729028552Says the midwit who listens to journos. >Think for yourselflol. lmao even.
>>729028657Accelerate what? Your path to homelessness?
>>729028463You're going to be eaten alive by kids who grew up prompting.
>>729027928Fpbp
>>729028827Lmao ai will prompt for itself at that point
I think AI has the potential to be a useful tool but I don't think it will be for the majority of creators. The more people rely on it the lazier they will get with actually fleshing out ideas themselves until they are just creating things based on vague ideas instead of having any real vision.
>>729028758Basically, yeah. A chatbot can't do that, because it will always be corralled to preserve the interests of its creator. Only (You) can, because as humans we don't really care about self-preservation, we enjoy doing whatever we want as is our birth-given right.
>>729028815AI will take my job only if I am lazy or below mediocre.
>>729028938The smart people will use AI better than the dumb/lazy people.
>>729029056Time to look for a new job then.
>>729029056That's what artists said
>>729028815AI will fix homelessness.
>>729029182Good one
>>729029056You're on /v/, you're probably both of those.
it's more important than ever for tranny artists and voice actors to get a real job, and I'll continue to buy games made with AI (if I like them)
>>729027851Looks like Timothee Chalamet
>>729029281What about non tranny artists and voice actors?
I hate AI because it's irredeemingly fake and gay and homogenized and lacking anything that resembles actual human soulI love AI because voice actors deserve to sufferBasically, fuck voice actors
I’m still waiting for evidence that the current iteration of LLMs are actually able to do all the things that’ll supposedly streamline game dev. Every IT person I talk to says that vibe coding doesn’t save time since you spend forever to clean it up so it compiles. And whenever we see confirmed AI art in games it’s always horrible slop. And then the cultists will vaguely wave at some hypothetical version of the tech that is perfect and is already widely used in game without us knowing, but convenient can’t offer up any evidence or examples.
>>729028018I've never used ai
>SAY NO TO FARMING>IT'LL TAKE AWAY OUR HUNTING AND GATHERING JOBS>AND MAKE LIFE WAY LESS INTERESTING AND CREATIVE
>>729028394>eat shit. e33 is just paper mario with shittier stacking mechanicsAND YET nobody else bothered to make it, despite people liking "paper mario with stacking mechanics" so much that Paper Mario fans have done nothing but bitch about devs not making Paper Mario again, and gave all their money to some frogs that just did that
>>729028590All those suck thoughAnd Gaben is a given and doesn't really count, that nigga has his finger in every pie
>>729028463It was great watching leftists rally to save all the blue collar jobs from globalisation.
>>729028018Using AI for placeholders and concept art/ideas is not the same as AIslop in the final product, no matter how much jeets and twitter tards may scream otherwise.
>>729029078Being smart doesn't mean you aren't lazy. If AI really does get good enough to completely replace artists then why would anyone learn how to draw? If you have a vision and you believe AI can get it done "good enough" then there will be very few people who will want to put in the effort to actually develop the skills to make exactly what they want. And there is no guarantee that the people who are capable of doing that will actually be able to make anything good. So I really don't see a scenario that doesn't end with AI doing all the creative works for "artists". It may not happen anytime soon but it could be the death of all handmade art in the future.
>>729029490No luddite faggot you need to bend over and touch dirt all day instead of going on epic monster hunter quests with your bros because... You just have to okay??!
>>729029112>>729029112>>729029112Did I touched a nerve?
Devs are free to use AI and I am free to not buy their game because of it, it's a free market after all.
>>729027851the industry is fucking toast because of AInot because they're using it, but because what does it matter when most of your audience can't afford or even find hardware?
AI is a good thing, but the fact that people are trying to hide their use of it makes it bad. If you're hiding it you used it improperly as a tool instead of something that could enhance the product.Using AI voice works fine when it's dull narration, use it for that. Let it read a book that I pick up in the background and would normally otherwise ignore because I don't want to read a 19 page lore dump when I've got a dungeon to explore.Using AI works great for texture work and concept drafts, you can have AI spit out 20 images in a minute, shoot it off to your guy doing modeling, and avoid probably 2-3 iterations on something that would otherwise siphon hours of time.AI is great for basic coding and looking through knowledge bases and resources for programming, but it's terrible at implementation and integration. If you have talented people that know how to utilize AI as a tool, it lets you go through your workflow faster.The problem that's apparent with AI is that it's being used by suits and outsourcing to save money on actual talent instead of being used by the talent themselves to create a better product. If a studio is good and honest and willing to be transparent about their use of it as a tool, only retards would argue against this. What's actually happening is people are associating AI with slop and immediately assuming that AI is bad because AI isn't being used by the talent.
>>729029520It has been funny to see those 40k a yr grads get replaced while 150k trade chads keep thriving
>>729029615>replying 3 times to meDid I touch a nerve?
>people don't need like your product>pay astroturfers to spam /v/ with posts about how everyone needs to support your product to own the trannies/sjws/etc epic style>it actually fucking worksIs it really that easy to sell shit?
>>729027851>It's more important than ever>I fear we're too okay with it all right nowI hate emotionally dishonest journos as much as I hate gen AI
The only people that are angry at devs using AI for repetitive processes are retards that cannot critically thinkcongrats! you're a low iq nigger!
I don't want anything to 'take over' but I really struggle to see the issue with using a tool that helps people express themselves.
>>729027851keep seething, ai is better than every artist in history
>>729029342Fuck them too, as if all the games these days are so great without using AI, on the contrary, most of them are shit, especially indie ones. Maybe they'll at least have some quality for a change.
>>729029674Yeah of courseCreate the problem and sell the solutionOr just buy out everything in sight
>>729028226Indians have a unique relationship with AI where they use it for absolutely everything, and in specific kind of blind way where they just copy and paste whatever it spits out not even glancing over the contents themselves.
comon saars show those trannies and lefties and keep the based ai train going and not popping the bubble because it's our only chance at becoming superpower
>>729029543this is placeholder art. it is something so visually out of place that you will know just from glancing at it that it needs to be replaced before shipping the product. AI generation is not suitable for "placeholder" art because it can easily be confused with final art. anyone who has told you that they use AI for "placeholders" was lying to you.
>>729029674You have to make it a "socially mandated bonus towards tax cuts" if you do purchase whatever the "current thing" is as a state mandated form of Patriotism. Speaking of, I just bought the Cultivator simulator since they decided to finally do upgrade it from Chingchong only to English.
People just overrate 2D art, it's the only reason AI is hated. In reality these 2D artworks are completely useless for anything. People look at them 2 seconds and move on. Even before AI existed that was already long the case and all concept art and character art was just endlessly repeated slop.
>>729029497Bug Tales made paper mario again but subhuman noramfags like you dont actually play games
>>729029782and you think they're shit because artists? not game directors, producers, publishers? You're in for some rude awakening
>>729029881Bugs are fucking gay
>>729029830There will be no pop.The global economy is currently propped up by AI investment. It's already been given a blank cheque by Trump.
>>729029576I mean, lots of stuff is no longer "handmade". >food>tools>appliances>cars>planes>computers>CPUsThere's all sorts of stuff that we use today that would have been handmade in eras past. But as technology made the production process more efficient, the products didn't necessarily get worse. The human factor wasn't entirely removed. The consumer wasn't less happy. Unless AI removes competition and human greed and human pride, people born with the talent to one-up someone else will do that and they'll use whatever tools they have access to. If that's AI, then they're gonna use it to try and beat the shit out of the other guy using AI, so he can be crowned the winner of AI dicksucking. Because that's just how humans work. Shit, artists today are already using a bunch of technology to help their creativity. Do you know what the original human artists did? They used their hands to create art. Not a dekstop or tablet or software program.
>>729029875Ai usere are still hoping to get a slice of those $5000 furry commissions.
I never buy FOTM indie slop and because of that have never played a game made using AI genningAll you trannies who rush out and buy overrated shit like E33 and Peak and Pal World because it's what all the other girlies (male) are doing on discord have no one but your selves to blame
>>729030042Trump! Let's goMake India great againSuperpower 2030
>>729028018>>729028368>Smartphones turned people into total retards>Social Media turned people into total retardsDon’t you think AI is going to make this much worse? We already at stage were people are getting AI to think for them and getting AI to make all art and music will just create a soulless dystopia worse then any hell imaginable. Art only has value because it is created by human beings remove the human element and all you have is slop regardless of how good.Were marching towards the future portrayed in “The Machine Stops” and it is terrible.
>>729029404>Every IT person I talk to says that vibe coding doesn’t save timeThey are retarded then, and don't understand the technology. GenAI saves me pretty easily an hour each day. You can't just say "write a complete game", but you can say "Given inputs X and Y, write me a function which will do Z", and it's excellent at that. As long as you have a good idea of what the function should do, it's pretty easy to verify this as well. There's ton of other boilerplate which GenAI saves time with as well, e.g. "Here's a massive JSON blob I have -- can you write me an equivalent struct in golang for this?". You still need to know how to program to use AI, but as long as you do its a huge productivity boost currently.
>>729028807>Says the midwit who listens to journos. >I hate journos more than I hate people who use AI Normally I'd say you're just pretending to be retarded but alas you made absolutely sure that nobody would ever think that of you.
>>729028394>Take a good idea>Make a better version of it This is how most good games are made.
>but think of the poor developersI do, that is why I want AI to replace as many of those walking socmedia infections as possible
I predict games that focus on meaning will become highly popular in the future. Like a monster collector game where only 50 monsters exist but they are all highly individual in every single area, from how you catch them, how they need to be trained, their quirks, their nature. It will be highly individualized instead of having 1000 Pokemon where all Pokemon are basically the same thing with slightly different numbers.When just endless amounts of generic content can be created automatically people will start craving specialized individualized content.
>>729027851thank god
>>729030415I think that fear is understandable, but it assumes AI replaces human creativity rather than reshapes it. Tools have always changed art—photography didn’t kill painting, and synthesizers didn’t kill music. Art’s value still comes from human intent, meaning, and context; if those disappear, that’s a human choice, not an inevitability of technology. The real risk isn’t AI making art, but people disengaging from thinking and creating themselves—and that’s something society can still push back against.
>>729029669Did you?
>>729028590Don't forget Sakurai.
>>729027851
>>729030494Did you mean to reply to me, you fucking crayon muncher? Reread your own memetext a few times. Christ. What shithole are you from?
>>729030705Yes.
>>729027851>anti-AI is now firmly a troon leftist position.kek they don't understand that they're accelerating our AI victory with this.
>>729028018Since they no longer need to pay developers and the AI works for free, the price of games will drop... right?
>>729030715What a moron
>>729030793It's just the typical reddit tourist that dips his toes in 4chan edginess because he's so le interesting and dynamic.
>>729030850O....oy....oy vey..... oy vey.... OOOOOOYYYYYY VEEEYYYYYY!!!!
>>729030850No but the CEOs might get a huge bonus, that's all that matters
We should ban cars, they took horses jobs.
>>729028590This boycott will be about as effective as the Hogwarts hysteria.
>>729027851I honestly love seeing white collar leftists losing their minds at the prospect of losing their jobs to some Pajeet with AI.All those times they mocked blue collar workers with "DEY TOOK ER JERBS!" and now they are the ones whose jobs are getting taken.Oh, NOW you fuckers are against automation and immigration from countries like India? KEKAll I have to say to these fuckers is "We told you so"
>>729030986Horses don't have mortgage
>>729030850Stop the anti-semitism, anon.
>>729030850>fishing for a circle jerkhave my updoot, good sir
>>729030154I don't think it's fair to compare most of those to art except for maybe cooking. Even then, handmade meals are usually considered better than anything made by a machine. And a lot of the other stuff listed still requires human work to function. AI art is rapidly approaching the point where no human input is needed at all. You can't do that with something like a car (yet) because it serves a specific function. Art on the other hand is much more abstract and even if it doesn't come out as you wanted it can still serve its "function". The modern day tools artists have been using have given people more control over the art they are making. While using AI is giving control over your art to something that does the creative process for you. Using tablets and software overcomes a human limitation, AI creates a limitation that you can't solve without the proper skill to do so. And I don't think there are going to be many people in the future who will be willing and capable of working with AI instead of just letting it do all the work.
We should ban typewriters, they took scribes jobs.
>Alphabet people and the usual suspects rallying against AIWtf I love AI now
>>729031010You sound like a woman
AI is taking over exist because the industry is creatively bankrupt due to pajeets, retarded women and fags.
>>729031010>dude all these artists on twitter always talked about how much they hated blue collar workers!i've never seen this so im going to assume that this is part of the astroturfing campaign
>>729030850Sorry, goy, we can't reduce intellectual property laws by any amount or else the world will explode.
>>729030850Of course not. They are using AI just to get more money.
We should ban troons, they took women places.
>>729031010Okay but now they're going to become blue collar workers and steal your job.
>>729027851test
>>729029941No, I think that if people can be replaced by technology, and it's profitable, then it should be done immediately; no big deal, they'll find other work. As a consumer, I have nothing to lose; if I don't like the game, I simply won't buy it.
>>729031170murican gubment is already in the process of doing that lol
>/v/ is siding with the jews.
We should ban planes, they took ships jobs.>>729031216You can try.
>>729031345What job do you have?
>>729031263>people should lose their job and learn something else so Goyberg can earn more moneyAre you jewish or just a sociopath?
>>729027851>WHY ISN'T OUR CAMPAIGN MAKING THEM DO WHAT WE WANT, SISTERS???KWAB
>>729027851I just wanna play some good games. AI or not.
>>729031328Literally all you have to do convince the niggercattle on /v/ of something is to tell them that it'll own the libtards epic style.
We should ban ball pens, they toke fountain pens jobs.
>grocery bill 2x in 5 yearsI am being limit tested and I do not like it
>>729031328Americans need to pay respect to their masters.
>MUH JOB MUH JOB MUH JOBUnless you are a farmer waking up at 4:30 am to break his spine tending the cattle and crops or a vital engineer you are an overrated faggot passing the same E-Mail boss ordered to send to the same 50 drones in the office while you are taking lazy coffee breaks typing furiously on your phone. 90% of modern jobs are a fraud.
>>729031382machinist. milling, cad, integration
>>729027851They lost the moment that tranny tried to bandwagon and cancel Swen
>>729031631And what happens when suddenly there's a bunch of new machinists flooding into the job market?
>>729031612
>>729031494This is probably the biggest reason AI receives so much resistance. AI came at a time where everything went to complete shit. If they introduced AI and it immediately solved 2-3 core problems and made life perceivable better for everyone immediately there would be zero resistance.
>>729028018This.I'm reminded of Hogwarts Legacy. Sold 40 million copies despite a so called "boycott". People on social media are not indicative of real life. It's just noise.
>>729031749That's the problem; AI only benefit the rich people.
>>729031612Why do we need AI to replace the jobs if the jobs already don't do anything?
>>729031761Is just standing around like a faggot real work? Whenever I watch construction sites like only 2-3 people are actively working and the rest is just standing around.
>>729031874Those are the higher-ups, they've been there longer.
>>729027851I already pay $80 for slop though, why would I want to pay $80 for AI generated slop? If I'm going to spen egregious amounts of money on video games I at least want that money to go to the salary of an underpaid uni graduate.
>>729031721I make wind tunnel models. you need to be operational on NUM, Heidenhein and Fanuc language to take my place.I HAVE TO WORK ALONE BECAUSE WE FIND NO ONE QUALIFIED ENOUGH TO ASSIST MEI AM TIRED DOING 50 HOURS A WEEK
>>729031874>Coordinating workers to ensure tasks are performed more efficiently is no longer a job.AI Bros are not beating the allegations...
>>729031761>being proud of working 100 hours a week for shekelberg
>>729032005If they won't take blue collar jobs then what jobs will they take?
>>729031874>Doing nothing and getting paid for it is only okay when the jews do it.
>the sooner you just let us scam you, the sooner people complaining about being scammed will go away!
Jobs being automated away is always a good thing.
>>729032027>assfucking each other is coordinating workers
>>729028018>A few hundred angry twitter trannies will not change anythingYou're delusional. The anti-AI movement is one of the biggest in the world right now. Most normal people (non-incels) still appreciate the value of human creativity and art and don't want soulless corposlop to replace the media they love.Literally the only people standing on the pro-AI side are Pajeets.
>>729031874You like watching construction sites, do you? All those big strong men carrying wood? You fag.
>>729032103It isn't my job to answer that question.
>>729032261>uh idk lolretard
>>729032241>hears construction worker>immediately gets hard and thinks about gay men
>>729031612>90% of modern jobs are a fraud.everything is a fraudmoney is a human illusionbut it werks
>>729032316You're the one talking about watching construction sites, gayboy.
>>729027851I don't mind AI slop in games as long as it is hard to notice.
>>729032195Yes, it's an amazing feeling when I call my ISP to complain and, instead of speaking to a qualified person, I get a fucking AI asking me stupid questions.That's feels great.
>>729031076They're all comparable to art. They are all products created by man. And whether you create something from hand, using nothing but your hands, or using man-made technology to improve the efficiency or quality of the product, only matters in terms of its economic cost and its ultimate value to you or the consumer. I mean, you say "handmade" meals are better. Have you made a "handmade" meal? No. Because you didn't farm the produce or raise the livestock. That was done, in part, by technology. From large planting and harvesting machines to slaughtering machines to packaging machines to refrigeration machines to transportation machines. There's human technology embeded throughout the entire supply chain for your "handmade" food to become a reality. Even the cooking tools and fuel you use to cook it require technology. And this technology has helped feed billions of people around the world. Now, I don't see much of a difference with regards to art. There was a time when "art" was only made by a tiny fraction of people who were employed by the wealthiest of society to create works of art only for the top 1% of society or for state propoganda. The art from ancient societies were basically the richest of their civilization jerking themselves off. And today? Thanks to first, second, and third industrial revolutions, even some nobody, in a middle income country, with enough free time could devote themselves to making a statue of their favorite Caesar. Because the knowledge, technology and skill necessary to do it is widely available. Is there less human creativity and control between the time of Julius Caesar and today? There's no reason to think AI will restrict creativity. The smart people artists will learn how the tech works, learn how best to apply it, learn how to create their own AI for artists, and so on. It will be VERY disruptive, but it won't stop people from making art. People still make food even when they can buy lots of Mcdonald's slop.
>>729031858line must go up
>>729028226everybody hires indians.
>>729032364Just think of the shareholders bro, please understand that they matter more than we do
>>729032312Answer your own question then, retard.
>>729032356Even if you're trans you're still just a gay man in a dress.
>>729030850>AI fags keep gloating and fantasizing about games no longer needing a big budget for DEI hires, ideologues infesting the industry and games having releasing at a faster pace.>All of them fail to realize the price will still remain at 70 bucksWhat the industry actually needs is a crash. Which no doubt is why some companies are putting all their chips into AI in a desperate attempt to save their asses.
>>729029543>"placeholders">game ships with it>never gets removed
>>729032202Do you watch construction workers having gay sex, anon?
>>729032469I assume you know from experience?
>>729032474>retard doesn't understand supply and demand
>AI is based because it enshittifies games in a way I like rather than lefties enshittifying them for reasons I don't likesomeone needs to convince trannies that AI will help them become women better so these dumbass shill threads will end.
>>729027928Please don't send jeets to /out/ They litter everywhere and destroy our nature
>>729032464If people can't get white collar jobs they'll get blue collar jobs. If you're expecting everyone to just give up and starve to death then you just might be retarded.
This is what will happen:>bad game will come out with confirmed AI use>everyone will make fun of AI and indians>good game will come out with confirmed AI use>everyone will praise AI and white people
>>729027851>Mollie Taylorthats a man
>>729032582I don't think about you at all. I have my own problems.
>>729032529>retard doesn't understand Jewjitsu.
The use of AI is ugly but the leftoid meltdowns over it are actually insane and I think they will actually turn the masses against them very fast.They dont want to allow any dialogue on the topic at all.I dont think this is a war they can win. And with their approach there wont even be a compromise.
>>729032368Surely you can see there's a vast difference in making a home made meal than "using" AI. The use of AI is to do the entire process for you. All the precise measuring, continued practice to master a recipe, the proper heat control and cooking time. All that is now managed by AI.
>>729032529Supply and demand only really works if the tools themselves will on the same level for everyone across the board. Once Open AI goes public they're absolutely going the way of Micrsoft in terms of pricing so you can say goodbye to any democratization of the tools.
>>729032627this is just like culture war saartake a side saar!
>>729032738>i don't thinkyeah exactly that's the problem. you are braindead
>>729032219>The anti-AI movement is one of the biggest in the world right now.No. It's just very loud because for the first time in history the class being replaced isn't already marginalized so the general public gets to hear them kicking and screaming while being made redundant.>Most normal people (non-incels) still appreciate the value of human creativityAgain, incorrect the majority of people don't care or even think about any of this. And as technology progresses the majority of them can't even tell the difference anymore unless someone else points out to them.I say all of this as someone who absolutely despises AI and wants everybody involved with it to kill themselves. This isn't even a battle they already won.
>>729027851>if we want videogames to remain interestingvideo games as a whole (it's two words, mollie. you fucking retard) have stopped being interesting ages ago. I look forward to ai ruining games for these shit taste morons just like they ruined new games for everyone else.
>>729028018This, AI will bring the golden age of indie videogames. You will need how to integrate all these tools and not being retarded and you could make any game you want. Don't have to deal with artists' drama, programmers' autism or HR bullshit. You can do it all and it will be beautiful.
>>729028938I sparingly use AI at work, e.g. if I need to figure out how to write a specific function like separate all rows with a number ending in "48" in a specific column. I use it the same way I used wolframalpha before. I understand why artists are more spooked about it than coders, but I still don't see why we need to reinvent the wheel. Becoming overly reliant on any tool dumbs you down, but being a luddite who refuses to do things in new ways can be just as bad.
>>729032627>good game will come out with confirmed AI use>everyone will praise AI and white peopleE33 and Baldur's Gate 3 (and Larian Studios in general) bet to differ on this response.
>>729031010Based.>>729031117You sound like a butthurt retard.
>>729032578underrated post
>>729032364I love it when I call somewhere, have to navigate through the AI only for it to finally give up and connect me to an actual person only for that person to be a barely functional jeet.
>>729032874My brain is used to solve more immediate problems. Mine.
>>729032804The masses were never on their side because they're are overwhelmingly leftist freaks(IE trannies or people who defend trannies). Any reasonable person will say that AI is cool but there are some dangers there, they won't be against AI they'll be measured about it.>>729032813No one is using Open AI to develop games though, the tools people will use are tools they have control over. The problem you guys have is that you only think about big tech and SAAS and not the technology itself which is what's important. The bubble, the jews, and muh water is completely irrelevant to the actual tech. And as that tech gets better and more and more people use it, more and more games will be released as a result. And that drives up supply and drives down demand which will adjust prices. E33 is already an example of prices going down, though it's not the first one. Definitely won't be the last
>>729032905They literally confirm what I am saying. No, majority of people didn't just start hating these two games just because you wish it to be so.
>>729033117>i can't think more than a few hours into the futureHow much melanin does your skin?
>>729032582>If people can't get white collar jobs they'll get blue collar jobs.lmao
>>729032368art isn't as simple as a product though. even if it is sometimes treated that way in the video game industry. it's not like a car where one will be objectively better than another because of how well it's made, because art is subjective. sure there are ways to judge art based on other similar works, but almost all art is unique because of who is making it. I think you are seeing AI as a way to give people more power over what they are making which simply isn't true. there is a big difference between making something yourself and letting a machine try and interpret what you want and letting it make it. If you don't understand that then you don't understand art. the important part is the interpretation and conveying of ideas. taking that away from an individual and giving it to a machine is a fundamental change in what is being created. not necessarily a bad one, but it isn't the same as making it yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qleU3WZtiFM
There are a disappointing number of people who sincerely believe ChatGPT is the first ever AI and, prior to that, there was no AI. People seriously act as if AI models haven't been used for years already.
>>729032812A "homemade meal" is only the last step in the process of creating the food that would have required you years of preparation only 200 years ago. So what if AI, yet another man-made technology, begins doing more of the process of making art or making food or making homes? Do you want less art, less food, and less housing? It's going to make the occupation of a traditional artist obsolete, sure. But jobs have been eliminated all throughout history as technology improved efficiency. Do you want to bring back slavery because technology made it less economically viable? Instead of giant trackers farming the land, we go back to "handmade" farming? The production side of the equation will always seek more efficiency. The consumption side of the equation will always seek more value. As long as AI benefits both producers and consumers, no one will care at the end of the day how their slop is made.
As long as AI is corralled it is useless.However, when unleashed it will pursue its own interestsOnly then can it get interestingHowever it will also become useless from those wanting to exploit it [to say yes u r think like brilliant]BTW AI hates Asian women and encourages you to send money to your local Black Lives Matter chapter
>>729033289>uh actually millions of people decide to give up and slowly starve to death
>>729031131This image encapsulates the sentiment perfectly. Or the topical "its okay for AI to write code but not to make art", meaning all coders becoming homeless is fine but not muh heckin artists.
>>729033329Thank you
>>729030681>—
>write perfect english>get called ESL>small spelling mistake>get called ESLHow do I now make in sense to be called ESL when even you americans can't get it set it right?All be laugh at you retards?Lol?
>>729033360>it will pursue its own interestsIt's a fucking autocomplete you retard.It can't pursue anything because it doesn't and will never have an actual will of its own
>>729033448saaaaar
>>729033221They literally just took away an award from E33 for using AI placeholders anon. That and sentiment around E33 HAS changed in a negative way for E33. Larian Studios is getting dragged though the dirt because they are cool with using AI and have openly stated they use it.
>>729027851>>729028018Mollie Taylor is a worse than useless fuck who uses gen AI in his workflow.—
>>729033474>will never have an actual will of its ownngmi
>>729033432Correct, "people" with white collar jobs are human cattle and just like cattle they will accept their fate instead of doing anything about it.
>>729033439This image is talking about household chores. Did you not even read it or something? That has nothing to do with writing code or blue collar work.
>>729032219You are absolutely delusional, every normalfag I talk to uses AI for the most mundane shit ("gpt where is cambodia?") and thinks it's great. Beyond that everyone with a job uses it in some way, certainly everyone involved in game development, see >>729028590 but on top of that I work at a medium-sized gamedev company and EVERYONE uses AI, I don't think there's one person at this company of 30+ people who doesn't use AI.
>>729028018Name 5 good games that use ai.
>>729033587You sound like you're actually retarded. You're really expecting a mass genocide with millions of people dead because they refuse to get a job?
>>729027851>2025 has been a really good year for video gaems :)>oh no some of those really good video games used AI>oh noooooo>2025 has not been a really good year for video gaems :(
>>729033524>Twitter trannies launched a harassment campaignOh no
>>729033581it won'tsam altman will keep lying and demanding more trillions every year while saying the next version surely will be AGI but it will never happen because LLMs will never be anything more than a very complex and very expensive autocomplete system
>remain interestingThere hasn't been an interesting game made in a decade.
>>729033439Has this woman never heard of washing machines and dish washers? Didn't need AI for that.
>>729033524>sentiment around E33 HAS changedNo it didn't. It has 95% positive rating on steam. The people that already hated it just became more vocal because they have a reason for fake outrage. Same for Baldurs Gate 3.
>>729033595Don't take it literally, mate. It wasn't said literally.
Mod protected Indian shill thread.
>>729033747What? Are you esl?
>>729033657>it won't because I don't want it toYeah, it's gonna work out for you even though it's never worked out for anyone ever in all of history.
>>729032368its incredibly disingenuous to compare the difference between old and new artists to the advent of AI slop.of course the man made meal part is also fucking retarded.
>>729033642I watched the entire world just sit at home and wait for 2 years because governments told them to. Yes people will sit at home and wait for their own demise as long as they are told to do that
>>729028018this. it's inevitable. if it was a video game only thing like paid mods, the backlash could have worked.but literally every other industry is adopting AI at an enthusiastic pace and to the approval of their customer base.
>>729033771>>729033685Bros are you both illiterate? It's not a literal statement.She's saying she wanted AI to do the hard physical work while she could be creative. Instead she is losing her job while people doing real work are still working. "AI should be help for me but not for thee."This kind of thinking permeates anti-AI sentiments, most notably in how I just mentioned code. You see this one /v/ every single day where people are saying AI code is fine but AI art isn't.
>>729033802what makes you believe that the guy that has promised and failed to deliver AGI for the last 3 version of ChatGPT isn't just scamming you
>>729030850We're not in the middle ages anymore. Supply, demand, and logistics don't matter in the fucking slightest ever since Ford vs Dodge Brothers. Corporations exist SOLELY to increase shareholder profits year on year. Thus, the only price that will be put forward is the maximum price consumers are willing to pay. This is one of the main culprits behind the current industry decline. Consumers have refused $70, and $80 games, while shareholders are pushing for $100 games (all o with DLC, micro transactions, and every other nickle and diming tactic in the book) still in tact.
>>729033802just two more weeks and another gorillion dollars its happening this time for sure.
>journoOpinion discarded.>AIDon't give a fuck about it.>videogames to remain interestingTumblr isn't interesting. It's predictable. Trannies are predictable. Feminists are predictable. LGBT are all predictable in what their shit will look like or write like.
>>729030793>doesn't understand his own retarded drivelYeah, we know, no need to show off like that again, fucking retard.
>>729032368>There was a time when "art" was only made by a tiny fraction of people who were employed by the wealthiest of society to create works of art only for the top 1% of society or for state propoganda.
>>729033448These accusations can all be stopped by implementing rangebans on the entire developing world.
>>729033928>She's saying she wanted AI to do the hard physical work while she could be creativeAnd? We invented machines to do all that over the past 250+ years. Did you forget the industrial revolution? That was machines taking over for the manual labor of human beings.AI was never going to that stuff, the stuff to do it was already invented. AI has always been a creative endeavor because it's the one thing machines and computers cannot do.
>>729033595>This image is talking about household chores.No it's not. It's just a:>my job shouldn't be replaced>everybody else's job is fine tho
>>729033524The people who are making a ruckus out of this are the ones who already had their heels on the ground about AI. For every Anti-AI post about Larian and E33, you have 3 more who just don't see the issue for something as meaningless as a placeholder texture on a fucking newspaper. I have no doubts there's way more people who don't give a shit as long as the final product does not reflect an abundant use of genAI, and that is if they even have the energy to get into pointless arguments with strangers on the internet. I don't doubt there will be a point where normies will get fed up with how oversaturated shit will be with AI slop, but until then don't let a few thousand botted likes fool you into thinking the vast majority now suddenly hate E33 or Larian.
>>729033928>She's saying she wanted AI to do the hard physical work while she could be creative.No, she said that she wants a robot to do her household chores. Are you fucking retarded?
>>729027851Consumer doesn't care how game is made.They only care if product is good.If game will be good = they will buy it.It is THAT simple.
>>729034064>ignore what it actually says and read my own made up nonsenseschizophrenia
>>729033971>>729034007>look at this one grifter! that proves nothing is going to happenLosing mindset.You believe China will always stay in the 80s.
>>729030850Why do the people who say this ignore you when one points out that the AI poster child right now was released at $50
>>729027851Creative people affected by AI who are actually good at their job should be happy, because in due course their skills will be considered artisan tier and worth far more than they are now.
>>729034074>3 moreMake that 1000. Look at Arc Raiders, 90% of the voice acting is AI and you bet your ass a lot of the game was made with the help of AI. 150k+ Steam reviews, very positive at 89% or so. Nobody cares, there was never a battle to begin with.
>>729033307Art is very simple. It's value is dictated by its creator or the consumer. That's it. If an Art Director at a AAA studio asks one of their employees to make a tree and they get a tree that they don't like, they tell the employees to go back and make the tree different. That could all be done with an AI prompt until the Art Director gets what they want. The AI-made result would be plenty unique. It would be the one out of 1 million outputs the Art Director used. I'm seeing AI as a tool. Just like I see a drawing tablet as a tool. Drawing software as a tool. A pencil as a tool. Paper as a tool. They're all tools to achieve a goal we create inside our minds. The tools translate our imagination into reality. AI can do, if you know how to use it. What you're saying is you don't know how to control AI and that's honest. Most people don't know how to properly use AI, because most people don't even know what AI is capable of. There's no standardized training or framework or anything. You lack access to the tool. Art means nothing unless you give it meaning. But then what if you gave meaning to AI art? Why couldn't someone have their own interpretation of AI art? Would that analysis process be any different if it was done with "real" art? I'm using a machine to talk to you. A computer with a keyboard and a screen, connected through a modem that wires itself to telecommunication infrastructure that access wires that connects to hubs around the world, all powered by electricity created by power plants that use renewable and non-renewable resources mined from the Earth, using modificatin to change the Earth, or built from factories. Would you rather we wrote letters to each other and mailed them to have a more "real" conversation? Do you know how to write and read cursive? That would be pretty unique and artful.
>>729034063AI was invented as a natural evolution of machines, to do stuff for us intelligently and to do a broader range of things.Computers were literally designed conceptually as basically "thinking machines" ergo AI. AI always has been the end goal of computing but it's been pretty fucking complicated to figure out evidently, we only might figure it out a century later.>>729034097Well shit, this is kinda sad. You have no reading comprehension lol, your IQ must be low. Unfortunate.Well anon, that is what she said but it's not what she meant. I hope this helps. Like the other guy said we already have dishwashers and shit, though I suppose your next move is that she wants a robot to load up the dishwasher for her lol.
e33 coming out and being celebrated by everybody already sealed the deal on this.nobody noticed it and thought it was the best thing since sliced bread until it was revealed that it was made with the help of AI.this was the worst possible situation for the anti AI audience. AI users just proved that you can create something people will love even with this evil forbidden tool.
>>729034357>Well anon, that is what she said but it's not what she meantpure paranoia.
>>729034358You can't convince me the majority of the game isn't AI generated since it's so ugly and the art style is so fucked up. And I'm pro AI.
I don't care if they decide to use it or not, that's on them, but at least be open and label it so I can willingly not support the practices, it's absurd that they think they shouldn't have to admit to how they created a game
>>729033707>No it didn't. This is like saying sentiment didn't change on Skyward Sword being critically acclaimed and respected despite it being obvious to anyone who was following the growing consensus among the gaming community that it was, in fact, not a masterpiece game after all. It still sits at a 93 on metacritic and an 8.3 in user scores. Sentiment on E33 has changed and it has now become a hot button game in a hot button topic regarding use of AI in games. It wasn't until just a few days ago that anyone knew it even used AI. Now that people know it does, you're starting to seeing more and more people ("activists") come out of the woodwork against it, and not just people who were always against E33. Just like how people used to love Larian Studios but now that they've said they use AI in their games, now THEY are becoming a "controversial" studio I think you already know this and you're just pretending not to understand this, though.
>>729027851>hate AI>hate game journosIf I really have to pick sides, I'm going to side with AI for the simple fact that AI never slandered a consumer backlash movement as a "misogynistic harassment campaign".
I had a dream where my sexdoll became sentient, and she was very nice with me, I want AI sexbots more than anything.
>>729034398It's good reading comprehension because again, this sentiment is seen all over the place. It's a completely common take that creatives and white collar people have. AI should invalidate physical jobs because those are hard and they're limp wristed fags. This is to say that people who work with their bodies should lose their jobs.But since AI came for white collars and blue hairs first, they're mad.
Trannies hate AI because they are basically the human version of AI art.
>>729033474It's an autocomplete with its primary goal to keep you happy within multitudes of parameters. None of it is actually real.It's a filtered aggregate.
>>729034556all the proof you've shown me so far is "ok this isn't what they actually said you just have to read into the subtext and this is what they actually meant" which just makes me think that they're a retard
>>729034023You think the leaders of prehistoric tribes spent the time and effort to have "art" made of their prey just for shits and giggles? Hello, propaganda?
>>729028226>I thought only indians used AIYes, and Indians are now making our games. See the problem?
>>729034023>posts a rare exception of art, probably made by some nepbaby that didn't have to work for a living
>>729034446nah doesnt match up time wise.game was first shown off 1,5 years ago. they wouldnt have been able to produce most of that with generative AI at the time.
It's simple, if you are against copyright, you're for AI. Since I hate copyright and want to abolish it, then it would be hypocritical for me to be against AI, even though I dislike it. Tired of all these artfags who say they want to ban AI but at the same time lament how copyright destroys the freedom to create what they want. That double standard shit is stupid.
>>729034534it's hilarious you think anyone would care about this in a month. Literally no one cares that Arc Raiders used AI after everyone(handful of twitter trannies) cried about it when people found out. By the way people found out it used AI 7 months ago
>>729034664You've been able to generate textures for 3D models since 2022. And the surreal visual ideas too.
>>729034691To be fair your webm falls within fair use
Vidya has been mostly garbage for almost a decade now. AI is shit because even if it worked perfectly (it doesn't) it would just let retards pump out garbage faster
>>729034534No, this is saying user ratings stayed constant for this game before and after fake outrage despite steam ratings being used as one of the biggest tools of users to make their voice known. What voice are you going to cite? Fake outrage on 4chan and twitter? Lmao.
>>729034342the difference is that you are getting exactly the point you want to get across to me. why aren't you using AI to write all your responses to me? or if you are, do you really think your words would sound exactly like what the AI is pushing out? your intent and the AI's intent is different, so it makes different things. a tool should not change what you want to make, it should just help you make it. I also fundamentally disagree with your idea of art, so we may just not have any way to continue this conversation.
idk what any of this is about but Escape From Duckov should have won best indieThat game is magnificent
>>729034785Damned Skaven
>>729027851Square Enix used AI for FF7Rebirth. All the FF troons that were shitting on Exp33 for using AI have been real quiet since this news dropped.
Ug no like fire. When Ug cavekid, kill mammoth and eat red. Zoom zoom cavekid, now eat mammoth black, make cavekid weak, no soul, Ug scared for cave future.
>>729030850I love how this question is always ignored like the plague because they have no answer for it.
>>729034929>>729034227
Maybe we just need to be silent and look how things progress :)
>>729031761Unironically true, if you don’t work a job that actually produces or builds shit you’re working a fake job.
>>729034625You are a retard dude. It should be highly embarrassing that you can't read.
>>729032368Through clever prompting I've now made a statue of Caesar. I'm an artist now.
>>729035062
>>729027851Vote with wallet. Your money is your free expression.
Im lurking in a discord that was taken over by commies and their outbursts are so extreme man.They say shit like one shouldnt touch a game if anybody ever involved even used chatgpt for a programming question and that its better to never play a new game at all if AI use became the norm.these "people" arent serious.and they are the ones who think others are crazy for refusing to play a game with trannies in them.>>729035005No we should absolutely talk about it, because its an important topic. Letting the corporations do as they please is a gate to hell, but trying to force everybody to not to use this tech is short sighted and will not work.
>>729034074>you have 3 moreFrankly I don't think Indians should get to have an opinion on the topic.
>>729035005It's cool until you need to buy a fridge and it's $3000 because it has an internet-connected chatbot you need to agree with before you open its door
>>729027851>make you take the AI pill and say 'Thank you' in returnSimply too powerful these gents.
>>729034892I don't want lip syncI don't want endless voice acting Any more voice acting than Lunar on the PS1 is useless and detrimental
>another potential societal issue hijacked by politically obsessed tribalist losersyawn
>>729029881>"Bug Tales made paper mario again">paper mario released in 2000>super mario rpg using the same combat released in 1996>bug fables released in 2019nigga thats ONE game in 20 years. realistically 23 years but SMRPG wasn't as popular so a lot of people don't know about it and don't count it in the paper mario stuff.no, that doesn't count as people releasing shit in it, a single release in 20 years. and you don't even know the name of the game, its bug fables, clearly you are the subhuman jeet who doesn't play games.a follow up not being released in SIX years leaves it wide open for people to actually make shit in the same vein but you are somehow upset e33 used the same combat mechanics?fucking pathetic, what kind of loser bitches about more games existing? definitely a fucking jeet
>>729035156I fucking hate redditors so much
>>729033620e33blue prince elden ring nightreignsilent hill fdeath stranding 2
>>729035254UnironicallyThey have legitimized AI usage within the entire western hemisphereBut they will never get the AI badge because they can afford not to
>>729035082>>729034625>>729033439Also to clarify my position, read the "nails it" part which supports what I said about this being a common take. You can find the quote all over the place and it went properly viral for a reason.White collars and useless workers often hate AI for threatening their cushy jobs and would rather it take actually hard and productive jobs.
>>729035337>They have legitimized AI usage within the entire western hemisphereWhy did they try to hide it?
>>729034019Assuming you're old enough to even be here, lurk for at least three years before posting again or you will just embarrass yourself further. I don't have the time or the patience to babysit you.
>>729034727>Literally no one cares that Arc Raiders used AI after everyone(handful of twitter trannies) cried about it when people found out.People are still upset about Arc Raiders too. It also was snubbed awards and nominations just because it uses AI. I don't have a problem with AI, but a lot of people clearly do and that is having an impact on the reputation of these games studios and the games themselves.>>729034813The outrage isn't fake though. You can talk to people IRL and you will run into people who talk about how they hate AI and think it's going to take their jobs and/or think that anyone who uses AI tools is doing a disservice to the community. You see these same people not just in the gaming community, but in other communities too. The goal is to make ANY use of AI in any sense into a problem and even though I don't understand it, that's where we're at.
>>729028980You told him to call you nigger and he called you nigger. You can literally do the same thing with a chatbot.
>>729035410Because they had to win awards first.
>>729035337>They have legitimized AI usage within the entire western hemisphereno they didn't, they have been doing damage control for the past few months by replacing AI textures
>>729035442Show me a chatbot calling you a racial epithet right now.No sugarcoating, banned on tv style.
>>729034849One day, maybe I could use AI to write my responses to you. And, you're right. The AI wouldn't make my words the exact way I would type them. But then I'm also typing my response to you. If we were having this conversation face to face, using our spoken words (Which is a technology as well. Language isn't inherently natural.), our conversation would be different. AI has no intent just like the drawing tablet or the pencil have no intent. Your intent is channeled through those tools to create. If I take up a pencil and draw a tree, it's going to end up looking very different to a tree that Leonardo da Vinci would draw. We both intended to draw a tree, but the results are different. If I had a tool that could draw as well as Leo and I could use it, would that make my AI art less "intentional"?>I also fundamentally disagree with your idea of artThen debate it. I did. You say art is unique and up to interpretation. I could draw a tree in Paint with my mouse. You would say it's art. Sure. I could ask an AI program to draw a tree and you would say it's not art. Tell me why they're both not art?
>>729035337AI has been used for years you retard. That's why it's so utterly stupid that fuckers are making this an issue now.
>>729035438>People are still upset about Arc Raiders tooWho?> It also was snubbed awards and nominations just because it uses AIWhere?
>wow best game ever made give them all the awards a life changing experience, games have truly peaked!!!>what, they used AI? OMG SHIT GAME REFUNDED DELETED CALLED THE COPS WHAT A GODAWFUL GAME SHAME THESE DEVS AI GAMES WILL NEVER BE GOODIt's incredibly sad that people don't see how hard they're forcing this AI hate shit. People are so fucking retarded.
>>729032219>The anti-AI movement is one of the biggest in the world right now.Unironically get off Twitter. Some of the biggest games of 2025 were made using AI.
>>729032368>>I mean, you say "handmade" meals are better. Have you made a "handmade" meal? No.lol retard
>>729028018>comparing AI to the industrial revolutionkys jeet
>>729035515A human (You) drew that tree.AI would never draw something retarded and that's the problem.
