Why can't this game have any reach? Even after the TGA win, it still can't get rid of its poor man's Genshin rep.>Online discussion in the West is very scarce>All twitter accounts with a Wuwa focus are seapags>Least amount of content across all big budget gacha>Combat focused yet the endgame is incredibly lackluster>Very poor art direction and unrecognizable soundtrack, a far cry from PGRIt just surprises me that a game that requires such a powerful computer to be run has only had real success among fucking seashitters lmao. White people simply avoid this game, as if they realized it was nothing more than a cheaply made Genshin knockoff with ray tracing.
>flopsAs expected...
Bump
Burp
>>729063726It had decent hype going into its launch but the state it launched in probably did a lot to give it that "poor man's genshin" rep. Its gotten a lot better since then and is probably one of the best gachas on the market to just play through and enjoy the story/content. It just shows how detrimental a flubbed launch can be in this industry though. I think the people who do play it know how good it is though, and more people are at least checking it out as it gains publicityThe biggest crime is that it has a "poor man's genshin" reputation when genshin hasn't been particularly good in years, certainly not on the level of wuwa 2.0+
>>729063726It runs on my phone…?
The very first thing you'll notice in Wuthering Waves right out the gate is how the plot is incoherent ChatGPT jibberish. It's all indiluted wordslop even worse than what Mihoyo's own private wordslop AI "writes" when it's spewing out script that (you) are gonna have to trudge through.
>>729065691When you look at both games using a checklist, I can see Wuwa winning, mostly thanks to QoL, but the game itself is really lackluster. I can see why some people would prefer Wuwa because it has a skip button which allows you to save precious time not engaging with chink writing but Wuwa's world is just so bland it definitely doesn't helpThat, and the way the game is only popular with SEApags is fucking disturbing. >>729065915It's a gacha made for PC, it looks like shit on phone and PC has tons of exclusive visuals features that aren't available on phone or PS5.also >playing on phonefuck you pinoytard, back to the ricefields
Maybe they should copy something more interesting instead. A dead game can copy gravity rush so they should be able to as well.
>>729063726back to your discord /vmg/troon
The only thing Wuwa has over Genshin is a cutscene skip button. Otherwise they're the same fucking game. The story follows the same beat of "introduce waifu of the week, MC follows them around, solves their problems, move on to next waifu". Repeat. Wuwa's combat is a bit too simple and Genshin's is all about massive powercreep. The story is trash, gameplay is boring, that leaves exploration. Genshin ruined it by introducing mobility powercreep while Wuwa tried to "one up" Genshin by letting every character fly around the map. It took all the fun of exploration. Now it's boring for both games.Maybe when both games are dead and you can make offline servers to remove the worst part of both games (the gacha) maybe it could be worth coming back to.
>>729066683>Genshin ruined it by introducing mobility powercreepThe exploration is still the same, mobility powercreep is just a way to the players to swipe but it didn't change the open world design of Nod Krai
>>729063726Gacha in general is played almost exclusively by SEAniggers and jeets. White people don't care about this shit. Whenever I'm on a bus and I look over some person with a phone they're usually either browsing twitter or playing some non-gacha mobile game like a puzzle game where you watch ads after every level, or some minecraft/roblox like thing if it's a kid.
https://x.com/Genshin_VS_Wuwa/status/2002804002191507910WuWasisters... what's happening? Why is Hoyo still winning?
>bad art direction>unrecognizeable soundtrackdude it's sci fantasy death stranding. You can't be more iconic than black shores and it's OST. this is as peak gaming as whatever Nier cooked. The real issue of Wuva is that it only gets good when you enter canada and are reaching the first dragon
>>729063726>>>/lgbt/
Why don't they make this game non gacha?
>>729067906Black Shores was nice, I'm mostly thinking about 2.0 onward. Avinoleum looks nice but very samey, Ragunna and the wilds are incohesive and unremarkable visually, Septimont is just orange everywhere. Compared to Genshin the game just looks uninspired.Characters models are honestly the only thing I really like in Wuwa. Even the animations can be stiff.
It just makes me think of the Kate Bush song Wuthering Heightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1pMMIe4hb4
>>729068043okay you win cause i am too busy with real games and have no idea what are you talking about. But genshin dropped off after sumeru too, no?
>>729063726Unironically the agressive shills killed any attempt at having a community. It's own personality it's "b-but genshin" which gets boring. Other gachas managed to find their own niche without relying on clickbaits with the competition
The western critics of Wuwa:>I have a severe gambling addiction and my caretaker won't let me play this game, SUCKS>I can't use my dad's credit card on this, why does this game have to be gacha!?>ugh, big words hurt my brain, why can't the story express itself through snarky marvel quips, three words a line or less?>this game is purely character-driven, which sucks because the characters are almost all women and I'm aggressively homosexual!>only people I don't like talk about this game on the internet and I feel left out!
>>729068178Yeah Genshin used to be better too, it's just that it's still above Wuwa as a whole I'd say
>>729063726>Why can't this game have any reach?It's a gacha>No but why really?It's a GACHA.
>>729068232>Hello fellow chud marketing tacticsIt doesn't work like that
>>729063726Hoyoshill still mindbroken about Genshit losing to Wuwa in the players choice awards LMAO.
>>729068536I play both and my Wuwa account mogs yours, paggie
>>729068429That is literally not a limiting factor.If gacha filters anyone at all, it's just poorfags, and they unironically don't matter to anyone. Nobody cares about poors or their opinions.If a gacha game is GOOD, it can succeed, look at Umamusume, pretty cheap, pretty silly, basically an indie VN in terms of what it offers, and it's doing perfectly well because it's a charming and entertaining game.WuWa fails because it offers nothing unique, it follows in the footsteps of games that came before that people are already attached to, it's bland and most of the time feels like a UE asset flip with how random the locations and set pieces are. It's like a fever dream of a game with no consistency.
>>729068662>That is literally not a limiting factor.It extremely is.Most people will never play anything gacha to the point that these games make all of their money off mentally ill whales.
>>729063726It's a worse genshin It wants both the fujo and waifufags money instead of focusing on one niche, so it doesn't have enough husbandos BUT also the few husbandos ruin the female roster. See FGO, genshin, granblue and Arknights, they have the waifufags, husbandocels and normies who like the cool male market. You either go full waifufag or don't bother at all. Waifus are also extremely boring compared to the BA or Nikke ones, all of them are the same character and barely interact with other characters Story is basically manwha tier
This game is greedy even for Gacha standards, yet retarded shills always hold up the guaranteed weapon banner as some kind of fig leaf. The power creep after a year is already insane. Most 1.x DPS characters are already kind of obsolete, only saved by quickswapping, which is not even an intended mechanic. Characters being dependent on perfect supports/weapons also makes pulling even more of a gamble. Ironically Genshin is less greedy by having their weird 50/50 offset thingie but WuWa retards are not very good at math (winning 50/50 is more important then anything). The game is also allergic to giving out free characters, unlike Genshin where you get a copy of every 4 star character through an event eventually. Also only 1 new 4 star in 2.x, LUL, kinda makes the whole Genshin style pulling thing redundant, your only ever care about the 5 star anyway.
>>729068695You can spout whatever delusions make you feel better buddy but mentally ill people can only be milked for so long, the reason these games succeed - and continue to succeed, is because the playerbase largely consists of healthy adults with stable jobs and a considerably amount of disposable income.The idea of them being evil predators who eat people up and ruin them financially doesn't exactly hold out when you realize that means your audience would quickly cease to exist after a few months.
The problem with wuwa is that the game was developed by chuds who have this bonerhate over genkek, so their entire framework is stemmed from genkek, making the entire game to be another imitation of genkek impact. Most of wuwa discourse, discussion, or anything, involves genkek or mention of the word genkek at some point. The entire game literally wont and cant sell if it wasnt for other game existence
>>729068793>but mentally ill people can only be milked for so longYeah, a lifetime.Gacha doesn't have mainstream appeal nor does it have hardcore appeal.It's all minority casuals.
>make open world>pandering to niggers that hate open world>you can fly everywhere goys!>your open world is now pointless set piece because players can skip everything with flying>now backtracking and remove flying>add pointless Metroid Prime 4 bike running through flat land
>>729063726>Why can't this game have any reach?Because>Introduction is abysmally bad with terms being thrown at you every five seconds, rushed explanations, major explanations are locked to loading screens of all things, and Chinese name spam.>Outside of the Crownless fight nothing happens until you meet Scar; it's just infodumping. Once you meet Scar then things finally start getting explained and the story starts, but that's like three or four hours into the Jinzhou story.>Even after you met Scar chapter 5 does not in any way earn any of its Avengers Assemble moment. Until 1.1 it feels like they had no idea what they were doing with the story.>The entire intro/outro system is overwhelming at the start and makes it hard to understand team compositions.I thought Shenhe was useless when I first started and Danjin was unusable. Meanwhile Shenhe is just a straight damage buff for several characters due to her explosions + outro and Danjin early on could solo clear the ToA with the right Echoes.>Game launched with the inability to hear any music at all and took until 1.2 to finally make the music loud enough to hear it even though 1.1 made it audible to a degree.>Performance was complete ass until 1.3 which then tanked in Rinascita and Septimont again.>Rinascita's general design was a bad choice because they had to account for the flying, so instead of the puzzle solving exploration of Jinzhou now everything is grouped together making exploration less fun.>If you aren't lucking into specific characters and regularly winning 50/50s you are going to be having a miserable time with any side content or events.>Most of the free 4* characters, standard 5* characters that aren't Encore or Verina, and 4* weapons are bad.t. 100%ed the game and jumped on the train when it was melting GPUs the first week because it couldn't be that bad and I was right. It has had some hiccups and bad aspects about it but it's been fun to play alongside Genshin and Where Winds Meet.
>>729068832Speak for yourself, me and my friend group work jobs like accountants, programming, advertising and legal work. I enjoy these gachas and play them but a bunch of my friends just log in every time the banner changes and they throw four figures in to get the new unit and don't even build them. It's a drop in the bucket.
>>729063726>main character dresses like a whore (female)>girls orbit your dick either way>dont even know if it's open world or not>don't know what the gameplay even isThat's all I know about the game. The game is not marketed properly. When I first looked at Genshin Impact I saw some footage from Stormterror boss arena, and that seemed cool. There was also a bunch of Chinese tendies whining about the game being a BOTW clone, which made me curious to see if it was like that or not. Wuwa just looks like a waifu simulator from the marketing.
>>729068832You don't realize how mainstream Genshin has gotten among normies
>>729068930>and don't even build themSo casuals
I thought 2.8 was pretty good.
Wuwa is made to generate zero disccussionNo plot discussion because plot is marvel movie tierNo lore discussion because lore is just fighting big bad civilization destroying thingsNo ships discussion because everyone is (You)sexual and pretends other characters don't exist (probably for the better, but still)No character discussion because pandering is actually very mild compared to, say, GFL2 or Snowbreak, you can have threads reach autosage by posting character interaction webms from these games, but not for WuwaNo builds discussion because every character has build decided for them with dedicated echoes and partnersNo endgame discussion because it's just "bring the latest character" like every gacha
>>729068976it's bayonetta flips including slomo against darksouls 3 bosses. Yes it has actual i-frame dodge mechanics unlike genshin. And bosses look cooler than souls bosses cause it has budget and polish.https://youtu.be/Y18mrBnJSpkThis is the second boss in the game
>>729069026Casuals with stable jobs and lots of money, sure.
>>729069238The game has no vision, even the combat system lost its flairThe parry system has became completely irrelevant and almost luck based due to how spastic characters have gotten over timeComplete lack of mastery over their craft
Hoyofags still seething over tga, just let it go.
>>729069397You have been seething about them for last 5 years
>>729063726No
>>729069238Imagine using fucking SCAR as an example for a supposedly well designed boss... Well at least he got some generic slop story unlike some actually playable characters...
>>729063726How to start talking about wuwa>genshin genshin genshin mihomo mihomo mihomoThanks for reading.
>>729069238Genshin does have iframes, but that boss does look more hackandslashy, but not quite. Maybe like Nioh? (I haven't played Nioh either)
>>7290694312 more weeks
>>729069397>>729068536This is why discussion around this game is dead retard.
>>729063726Idk it seems more fun than Genshit from what i played, even if it is essentially a very basic action game, but i still felt no reason to keep playing. I feel like maybe it's just at a point where it's too simple for real gamers but maybe too much for phone players with the timed dodge, doesn't have any real USP, phone players already found their game, maybe the story immediately turns people off by being a jumble of nonsense interspersed with Chinese names and words... visually it's a bit bland too but then so is Genshit.>>729067026No i'll tell you what people on the bus are doing on their phones. They're playing straight up gambling slot machines and watching tiktok prank videos. That's your western culture you fucking polfag so stop acting high-and-mighty over where you were born. It's mad gay
>>729068976All gachas are waifu sims
>>729063726they literally gave their players free shit to vote for them. those awards mean nothing
>>729069876Visually Genshin has some of the best environments out there and it completely nailed the anime style though
>>729069876Genshins world is unironically better
>>729063726https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmgLOrdQp00
Cammy greeted me a happy birthday, bwos.... I'm so happy....
>>729069528hey man i am trying to avoid spoilers here. What if the guy will actually be interested in trying it out
And I got a hat! c:
>>729068976>main character dresses like a whore (female)Worse. She dresses like someone trying to look like a whore but is too afraid to show enough skin.
It appears there won't be any companion quests.
>>729070217>>729070305i've played genshin for years, up to and including natlan but none of the environments made me gaze in wonder like septimont in wuwa haschinaland sucks balls and it made me drop the game immediately on launch but they've done outstanding work on every subsequent area
>>729071187Septimont is just orange everywhere with UE stock assets and the LODs being worse than Genshin truly hurt several vistaThe one thing Wuwa nails in the environments are the skyboxes, everything else looks generic or off
>>729071419You don't know what stock assets are
>>729071525Resorting to pilpul won't make wuwa look any better
>>729070305Same, it's one of the few good things genshin did
>>729071576Spouting words you don't know the meaning of won't make you seem smart either
>>729071071I just don't feel the hype for Lahai-Roi. Lynae looks like shit too
>>729067514>@Genshin_VS_Wuwajesus christis this what seapags do instead of rooting for sports teams
>>729063726Considering that you are here to cope and bait about it, its reach can't be that bad.
>>729071614It's not about me, you mental woman. I've already seen Wuwa's assets a billion times and it's jarring when you take into account the anime characters. Simple as.
>>729071693NTA this is the most retarded thing you could have said
>>729069316>The parry system has became completely irrelevant and almost luck based due to how spastic characters have gotten over timeBro the game launched with fucking jiyan, the auto-parry god.In fact, looking at the 1.x chars>jiyan>jinhsi>changli>camellyaI'm inclined to say it's more difficult to parry with newer characters, not less.
>>729071768>still dodging the pointAlright
>>729063726idk but WUWON
>>729071693>I've already seen Wuwa's assets a billion timesYou should be able to point some of them out then, no? They'll be on the asset store or in other games.
Characters are still what matters the most in gacha games. Wuthering Waves felt very pump-and-dump with how they have all of this fanfare about the new character of the month, but then you never see most of them again after their time in the spotlight.
>>729071864I've already seen Septimont's rocks in Wuchang
>>729071693You've seen greco-roman architecture, yesYou haven't seen wuwa's assets anywhere else because they're bespoke
wuwon
>>729071897mmmhmmm.
I get where anon is coming from, Wuwa's locations aren't stylized enoughIf they wanted to go for a darker aesthetic then they should've copied Khazan
>>729071897>i've seen septimont's rocks in a game that came out a month later
>>729071881Even shin forgets about the previous waifu to shill the new one
>>729071663/thread
