>>729172197
Eh, it's not really worth the 15 bucks if you compare it to the base game's price, it should have been 10. Bosses are pretty cool, especially the second one. Undertaker is arguably the best melee character with Wylder. I'm too shit with Scholar to have a proper opinion but he's pretty unique and a good support pick. I hate the new map though.

>>729172825
Is the undertaker fun? Thats more important than strength for me

>>729172197
The dlc is not worth it. It adds a bunch of really annoying gimmicks to the maps.
The dark souls 3 bosses are cool though.

>>729174118
she's the queen of unga bunga, has a top tier kit and a lot of synergie with the other nightfarers

>>729172197
>Is the nightreign dlc worth it?
Yeah, it's not exactly that expensive and the new bosses are amazing and the Great Hollow is a whole new map pretty much, so it really feels fresh. If you're the sort of who played 50-100+ hours od NR then the DLC is a no brainer.

The only thing I have to say that's negative is that Scholar is kind of a weakshit support character I hate to see people use because he's not that strong UNLESS he specs for Fire Pots and the boss is weak to fire.

>>729174118
Undertaker is crazy. She's very popular and she's strong and fun.

>>729174353
Scholar is good. As a dps he’s mostly worse than executor with the new meta but at high depths the easiest part are the bosses and his ult is insanely good for days 1-2 to clear potentially hard camps (same with pot spamming). And his ult matches up well against the harder bosses you don’t want to see (Ed libra, balancers, even dreglord who is pretty easy his hardest phase with the adds is BTFO by scholar ult).

>>729174518
>his ult is insanely good for days 1-2 to clear potentially hard camps
That was never hard.
> And his ult matches up well against the harder bosses you don’t want to see
His ult doesn't justify his worthless DPS.
>As a dps he’s mostly worse than executor with the new meta but at high depths the easiest part are the bosses
That's literally completely untrue. Bosses are by far the hardest part at high depth and he sucks dick against them.

He sucks. I'd rather have Guardian, at least he can provide value by reliably surviving when he has aggro and reviving us if we die. Scholar has a similar amount of DPS but without any staying power or helpful defensive kit. If I see either selected I know we're having a bad time but it'll be less awful if Guardian turns up because at least he offers the potential of our casters getting huge amounts of DPS uptime so we can melt shit.

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>>729172197
>Is the nightreign dlc worth it?
Up to you personally. I've put 20 hours into the game after the DLC came out almost exclusively on the new map so for me yes. Also if you're still enjoying the base game you're going to want it for the busted fucking relics and being able to matchmake with everyone in DoN.
>How are the new characters?
Both are extremely fun. Undertaker is busted and played by everyone. Scholar is busted and played almost exclusively by shit eating retards.

>>729174828
>scholar is busted
Something impressive happening when he ulted once doesn't make him worth it. Pot spammer DoN Scholar can be decent if the Nightlord is weak to fire but that's it and even then he's stuck running back to merchants to stack pots all the time, which is a whole big hassle and occasionally fucked by map seeds.

>>729174732
You do not play the game and need to use the internet less.

>>729174732
>guardian
Lmao holy fucking shitter
>our casters
Lmao holy fucking shitter, D5 is dominated by ironeye wylder duchess (who is melee 95% of the time now) and now executor with balancer relics. “Casters” are some D0 shit. Scholar throwing pots or using the bell is a better ranged option.

>>729174973
I did not ask for your retarded opinion. With how retarded you are I am very surprised you're not a scholar main.
Scholar needs a singular relic to be OP and it's guaranteed from the signboard. He has ANOTHER guaranteed relic from the signboard that makes him even stronger.

Both the dlc day 3 bosses are cool, Artorias is actually hard, both Scholar and Undertaker are more fun to play than appear

>>729175000
I have 1k hours in NR bud.

>Dogshit iframes
>Bad damage stats
>Skill that asks him to sit around doing 0 DPS to give us buffs that don't matter much and debuffs that aren't very good either
>Ult is quite strong but doesn't actually meaningfully shift gamestate in the Nightfarer's favor the way many other ults do [forcing staggers on bosses or major revives]
>ARC gimmick falls off against bosses with lots of HP like Nightlords who're also the only hard part of any run
>Has to scrounge around specific PoIs and get fed loot by his allies to take proper advantage of bagcraft

He sucks. You can get mileage out of him but I'd take pretty much anybody else over him in any case.

>>729175275
>Balancer meta
lol scrubshit. Casting remains stronger than fuck.
>Duchess
>Melee focused in D5
LOL

>>729175290
>IF HE HAS DEX HE STOPS BEING SHIT!
No. He's still just worse exec if you cope with that relic.

He sucks ass. Anybody who needs relics to save their kit has a bad kit.

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why is he the coolest fromsoft protagonist?

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BEAST

>>729175402
Saaaaar i am Brahmin thousand hour bloody bitch benchod Dalit scholarrr saaaaaar

No one runs “casters” in D5 you gay ass larping pajeet

>>729175402
You realize with the dex relic he still has the most arcane in the game by a long shot? It's also the cherry on top that his melee dmg becomes ok while still being the best status applier.
Go look at the signboard and think REALLY hard and I bet you can figure out which relic makes him busted.
If you can't figure it out heres a hint:
It's not one of the ones that says "Scholar:"

>>729174353
Scholar is better than undertaker, you are severely retarded

>>729175643
Casters are the most popular thing because they deal huge damage without exposing themselves to risk.

>>729175656
>You realize with the dex relic he still has the most arcane in the game by a long shot?
It doesn't matter, he's a fucking flimsy retard with bad iframes trying to get up into melee range. That's not good. To go into melee you need scammer iframes like Duchess' dodges or Ironeye's skill or decent HP like Wylder/Raider/Guardian. Executor has an infinite skill ceiling where if you're talented and know what's what, you're functionally invincible with your parries.
>It's not one of the ones that says "Scholar:"
It doesn't matter. Using relics to FIX your kit means your kit fucking sucks.

He sucks. I wish he didn't because he's cool as fuck but "items" and "status memes but paired with a fragile retard kit" isn't it.

>>729175889
>casters are the most popular
No, it’s literally wylder and ironeye

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>>729176013
TRUKE

>>729175878
>madame ult spammer who also has a great kit and amazing stats
>worse than the gimmick faggot kwith dogwater stats
She's insane dude. Don't even talk. Especially in Depths because if people run "Defeating Enemies fill Ult Gauge +1" and don't hang onto their ults like scared little grannies and use them when they're up during Days 1/2 then things can get really out of control with how much she gets to spam her ult at bosses.

>>729176013
Every D5 match I'm in has a Caster. They're always there because they're very very valuable and strong. Ironeye is popular because he's safest and Wylder is just generally based and arguably S tier. D5s run MATK Recluse or Affinity Duchess or whatever and those runs are the safest and fastest. You might get more of the less ideal comps in random queue though.

>>729175889
>he can't find the relic on the signboard even with the hint.
sad.
Idk why you pretend to be a d5 player when you only play base game. It would make sense why you think scholar sucks if you play base game, he's played almost exclusively by retards.
>I DO TOO PLAY D5 WAAHH WAAAH WAAAH
>decent HP like Wylder/Raider/Guardian
Nobody has decent HP in d5. Everyone has the exact same HP and it's 1 or 0.
Go look at the signboard. Re-read the hint. Play a few games as scholar with the relic that makes him busted.

>>729175889
>guardian
>in D5
>implying wylder or executor can’t fucking natty dodge everything
Even raider is pushing it but sometimes you see fist raiders. Shut the fuck up moron.

And for the record, he has 11 i frames. The same as a mid roll in dark souls you fucking moron.

Nightreign would not be worth 40 dollars even if it came with the DLC from the start.

>>729176197
Please stop pretending you play depths at all let alone D5. You are a faggot pajeet

>>729175889
>decent HP
>D5
Guardians get one shot you fucking moron. Why do thirdies do this? Every interaction is some nonsensical bullshit “scam” like they have to assert some fake claim.

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>>729172197
the new map is more fun than the old as soon as you stop being a shitter. ED Balancers fight is now one of my favorite of all of From's games visually and thematically and I think the fight itself is pretty fun too.
Undertaker's relic is busted and one of her her remembrance ones is God Tier on Raider so I am using two Undertaker remembrance relics to super charge Raider into Godhood. The new boss relics are great too; I now have a skill damage Wylder build that lets you just shit on everything if you can find some of the better Arts of War (some still suck dick even with 50%+ free damage)
The DoN relics like pic related are now available for the regular game, and some of them are really great, like pic related, Raider's arc one, and Ironeye's str one

>>729175656
he has 2 more arc than exec and a bit less dex with that respec. they're not significantly different.

Scholar attracts the most insecure fucking knowitall retards it's fucking hilarious


>>729176221
>Idk why you pretend to be a d5 player when you only play base game.
Every scholar I play was zero DPS. Some were smart. Some were skilled. The only ones who did DPS that was of any value were the pot spammers who had excellent relics to boost the damage to wacko tier.
>Nobody has decent HP in d5
Untrue. More HP makes the dmg negs more valuable. The tougher characters don't just go down from any passing trash mob blinking at them in D5. Squishy characters do though.
>Play a few games as scholar with the relic that makes him busted.
I know all the builds anon. None of them are busted. Grease Scholar sucks. Bell Scholar sucks. Pot scholar is only good when the Nightlord hates fire or during Day 1/2 where it doesn't matter. Dex Scholar sucks. Caster Scholar is an abominations.


>>729176331
>implying wylder or executor can’t fucking natty dodge everything
I did no such thing.
> he has 11 i frames
That's not enough to want to go into melee. Nightreign isn't Dark Souls 1. You need better stats than that.

>>729176489
>Guardians get one shot you fucking moron
Not by everything. And more HP literally adds value to your negations. Makes it easier to possibly trade sometimes when you have a great stack of negations. I do it often.

>2-3 full HP negs
>trade with a boss and take near zero damage
>steal it back with post damage attack recovery
>full HP neg is active again
>fraud out another scummy trade using my negs

>>729176582
Correct, they are not significantly different. You do realize executor is mega top tier now?

>>729176671
Saaaaar an abominations saaaar

The funny thing about this seething brownoid is you know due to his shitheap’s low life expectancy he’s going to die earlier than anyone in this thread. And he spends the limited time on this earth pretending hes “high caste” in a video game.

>>729176531
Art of War spam Balancer Wylder is fun as fuck. I was using it a bit on other people too but he uses it the best because of his good stats and ability to use any weapon well

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>be white and right about Nightreign
> retards spews about how I'm a jeet for some reason
lol

>>729176981
>vagueposts
>jeet filename
You really cannot make this shit up

>>729176671
>only plays the base game with shitter retards
>waaahh the most broken character in the game must be bad because shitters play him
>Grease Scholar sucks.
correct
>Bell Scholar sucks.
correct
>Pot scholar is only good when the Nightlord hates fire or during Day 1/2 where it doesn't matter.
Pot scholar is extremely RNG reliant because he has 0 guaranteed relics that help it along. It's genuinely busted but without cheating relics you'll never see it so I'll give it a pass. FYI with cheated relics he can solo d5 dreglord both forms with just pots. It's genuinely stupid. Debating cheating relics just to try it.
>Dex Scholar sucks.
That is retarded. If dex scholar sucks all melees suck because he has the same dmg scaling as anyone else except he also has more arcane than executor for status application.
>Caster Scholar is an abominations.
correct.

You still haven't found the guaranteed relic from the signboard that makes scholar OP. re-read the hint, go give it a look.

i just started nightreign
any tips for executor? i know you can parry when entering and leaving cursed blade

>>729177060
>You still haven't found the guaranteed relic from the signboard that makes scholar OP
None of them make him OP though. I'm not gonna exhaustively list every relic effect. None of them fix Scholar to the point of being OP.

Just admit you like a low tier character. You're allowed to have shit taste.

>>729177063
Trying to use parry is griefing your team don’t even touch it until you’ve played for 50 hours and know what you’re doing

>>729176738
30 over 28 is not "the most arcane in the game by a long shot". exec stacking successive and harmonia relics is overhyped and entirely depends on rivers dropping. which having played plenty of exec is not a guarantee.

>>729177060
>If dex scholar sucks all melees suck
Every other melee class is better. All of them

>Executor
Unkillable parry god
>Wylder
Better iframes, good HP, survives death once per grace
>Guardian
Amazing greatshield ability, more HP than anybody
>Raider
Solid i-frames but also more importantly, can survive anything with retaliate

All of them have tools that make them good in melee. Scholar gets.... Feints? That's his big close range survival thing? i-frame feints? He fucking SUCKS.

>>729177374
A lot of NR players are Elden Ring secondaries who were sleeping on AoWs so now they're finally noticing how fucking strong AoWs are.

>>729177063
starting armament inflicts frost is the only thing executor needs. you can get it from a guaranteed relic later if you don't get lucky beforehand.
cursed sword exists literally only to parry. only go for it when you've got aggro. swinging cursed sword should only ever happen on accident. parry only. you're going to die a lot while learning and that's ok.
all of the "executor" relics are shit except "roaring restores HP" is good for base game.
His ult is extremely bad and only really has 4 uses.
running from place to place, roaring for aoe dmg/healing, spicy thumb for poise break on slow moves (like libra bubble), emergency HP refil.

fromsoft gamers are such low iq that they think some stupid %dmg relics and some barely mattering 1-2 button skills to be variety
there is no "unique character" or unique relic in nightreign
its just elden ring but you bully the bosses 3 man or try to get overpowered shit going on with the dormant powers you stack through the run

you can tell a good scholar apart from a bad one by if they're grabbing knives or not and how they're maintaining the debuff.

>>729177760
retard

I think scholar is strong but eating items off the floor constantly and then playing catch up is gay and annoying
The loop of 'kill entire PoI instantly, eat items for 20 seconds' gets old pretty quick so I stopped playing him
Props to anyone who likes it though; the game should have lots of playstyles

>>729177778
knives and warming stones are the only two item levels that matter.
His skill is also really bad but people are convinced it's good. that's where most of the disconnect lies between people who think he sucks and people who know he's good.
His strength lies in the strongest ult in the game.

>>729177941
and also the exploit with his and exec's ult that nukes harmonia.

>>729177374
Who are you quoting retard pajeet? Kill yourself

I will never go past DoN 3 because the game sucks dick past that point

>>729178193
the guy who doesn't know how scholar's dex respec works making wild claims about his arc.

>>729178365
based and correct

You can rot the dreglord. lol. lmao even.

>>729178691
You can rot Malenia

>>729178691
>game says he has no weakness
>actually weak to holy and fire

>play DoN
>get a funny hacker who hacked in every relic he has with an increase throwing pot damage relic
>his deep relics have throwing pot damage +1
>either hacked in or found the throwing pot damage increase talisman in the run
>proceeds to kill every boss in seconds with his throwing pots while me and the wylder in the run keep buying him more fire pots
>get to everdark libra at level 15 with 400k runes
>buyfirepots.jpg
>libra goes down 10 seconds
I want to do the same but I don't want to hack in anything, but I never realized how busted the throwing pot build can be

>>729178691
nothing is immune to rot, it's lore.

>>729178924
why even play at that point

It's too bad the new additional seeds only affect deep of night since I don't play it
Game just needs more randomization and it would be much better

>>729179381
Because that was one of the most fun runs I've been a part of. I forgot to mention the hacker was scholar and everyone thinks scholar is lame because he's support and dies too fast. Well I got my eyes opened to what he can really do. If I could find some deep relics with throwing pot damage +1, I could be like him and be the unexpected hero too

>>729179583
>it opened my eyes to what a faggot can do when he cheats and rolls relics pretty near impossible to pull off in non-cheating ways
well wait until I open your eyes to what I can do with my one shot Cheat Engine table then
SUCH FUN
cheaters are faggots

>>729179583
Wait until a caster "opens your eyes" to what they can do with cheated Carian +3 magic relics in every slot, but it's still cheating and has no bearing on regular play. No shit the cheating faggot is strong. That says nothing about the class itself.

>>729180514
I had this happen to me with some Recluse with bullshit relics. Dude would stand there and watch us fight until the boss was half HP and then shoot one crag or rock (I forget) and kill the boss
Gay as fuck

>>729172197
meh

>>729180638
This is why solo or with friends is the way, playing with randoms is unplayable, you get shitty netcode, rage quitters and cheaters or just retards in general

>>729180267
>>729180514
I guess you guys aren't understanding that I'm saying I didn't know about the scholar's throwing pot build until I saw a hacker use it, and I'm saying I want to do that build too without hacking perfect throwing pot relics in like he did
>>729180638
I had a DoN run with some wylder called Dark Souls 2 that turned on his godmode in the middle of the run and watched me as an ironeye plink away at every boss and every time I died, he just rez'd me and watched me. It was kinda funny I guess. I didn't beat the final boss (maris) because he turned his godmode off and died in seconds and then just spectated me almost beating maris until he got me and we lost

>>729181028
what the guy was saying though is that without cheated relics the build is very meh. You either cheat and end up with God Mode, or do it regular and get like 3 +1s at best at which point you do about the same damage as spells for a ton more cost of buying pots at the vendor and doing a mule rule for the night 2 boss (buy pots, dump inventory in circle, and then go buy more so you have enough for night 2+ the lord)

>>729172197
Everdark Harmonia is one of From's best read: sexiest bosses.

>>729172825
>search for crystals night 1 and open the center spirit spring
>kill minor field bosses along the way
>use whatever time you have left night 1 starting on clearing one of the keeps on the top floor
>night 2 return to that keep and keep clearing
>once the circle starts closing immediately check where the circle is closing and reposition if necessary with the teleport
>either finish that keep or clear as much of the other one as possible
lvl 15 easy. the boss rush towers are a trap even if some of the seeds are doable. if you go for it and get a regen one bail immediately. if I'm queued with randos I will straight up ignore whatever dumb stuff they're doing and search for crystals by myself. it's so important to get that done asap.

>>729181267
Yeah that's what I saw that scholar do too. At that point though we had so many runes there was nothing left to buy. And I've done so many runs with almost every character except bird and raider (I fucking hate his stone that always gets in my way so I will never use him) so it was great to see a new viable build

>>729181771
love Raider. The trick to the stone is to unlock, turn around, and cast it. You'll never get the boss stuck inside that way and the damage buff is amazing

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>>729181904
>the damage buff is amazing

So... What's the signboard relic that makes Scholar OP? I'm trying to get more use out of him but he's less braindead than Undertaker and I'm retarded.

>>729181904
but I like putting them in the box it's like catching a pokemon

>>729177571
scholar is far better than guardian or raider if you play DoN though

>>729180638
recluse doesn't even need bullshit relics
I've just got 3 DoN +4 magic damage relics just by rolling and that already shits out insane damage

>>729181982
>15% buff isn't good
retard or bad at the game, call it

>>729182202
scholar is great for me watching randoms miss their shitty dodge and eat the floor for the 900th time in DoN

DoN made the game worse and they should've just added more events, seeds, and randomization to the base game

>>729180949
Can cheaters fuck your game up?

>>729182675
no, not that I've seen

>>729182152
Scholar is an ult bot. Grab the relic that makes that faster.

>>729182675
EAC needs to be on to go online, so no. That hasn't been an issue since dark souls 3.

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>stance break enemy with Wylder ult
>retard Undertaker immediately does its ult and staggers him out of it
EVERY fucking time

>>729182548
still better than watching some jackass get oneshot through his shield because he thought you could play guardian in depths

>>729182675
Yes they can. I had some faggot chink revenant instakill me and the other player in a don run at the beginning and drop us through the geometry of the game until we got the you died screen and then my game crashed and I lost 600 points. Fucking chinks.

>>729172197
Me and 2 friends bought the deluxe edition on launch and completely forgot we did so we tried the DLC and it was boring dogshit with a terrible new area. The pros are the music is good, the design of the area is very nice on the eyes, but the actual map design itself is awful. The game would be good with effort put in. Imagine the game having 6-10 large maps, even 4 or 5 would be nice. Even using reused assets they really could have made this game something special. Oh well, hopefully duskbloods is good.

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>>729182661
i got to depth 3 when it came out and haven't touched it since

it didn't change up the game anywhere near as much as i was hoping it would

>>729176531
AoW spam wylder became my favorite build very quickly. I have starts with flaming strike as the third relic as it can carry almost by itself. Super fun and super strong. Very flexible because you can start with something that just needs to be upgraded, or swap it out for tons of different potential options that will do insane damage

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Game hasn't changed much but having a made for me waifu to play makes it 100x better than what it was before

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Recently started playing this since it went on sale. Been loving it, although I've only beat a couple bosses and have only played on the Limveld map so far. Can't wait to see what they did with Caelid and Liurnia. Luv me puppet wife

>>729182661
dlc added new points of interest to the old map, but yeah there should be a lot more, I don't know why from doesn't care about the game that much it's very popular even still

>>729183951
i think they're just putting a minimal amount of resources into it to keep it alive until duskbloods comes out

>>729183798
Anon....

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>>729184129
Yes?

>>729184283
I don't know how to tell you this...

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>>729184283

>>729183798
Why is there so much fanart of Undertaker with multiple tongues/tentacles coming out of her mouth? I finished her quest and unless I missed something, there's nothing about that in her lore

>>729184446
retards thought her ult was tentacles even though it was obviously a bone weapon doing Sword of Damnation shit since the start

>>729184446
they just mistook the extendo bone as tentacles

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>>729184501
>Sword of Damnation
God I loved that thing for invasions
I'm very sad they didn't include a single SotE weapon in Nightreign, even for the DLC

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>>729184352
pls

>>729185336
Here's a thing though:

>Dormant Power Weapon Relics
>Loot pool consistency

SotE weapons would've nuked the game's balance. I wish it wasn't so but... polluting the loot pool with more stuff will make the good stuff rarer.

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>>729184446
Lovecraft corruption vibes fit her to a tee

>>729185441
It's not like you'd be bricked when a SOTE weapon drops or something. No one is going to be upset that they got claws of night instead of raptor talons.

>>729184501
>Sword of Damnation
You mean Bloodletter

>>729185736
>It's not like you'd be bricked when a SOTE weapon drops or something
Anon, a huge part of the game's balance relies on how many weapons exists in each weapon category's various tiers. Duchess is stronger because there's only 6 Purple Daggers and 3 of them are insanely good. Same applies to other weapon categories. Too many items makes items rarer which makes the game less consistent. NR is actually very good at mitigating raw RNG in terms of making the game feel fair and "do-able" in the majority of runs.

>>729185849
Bloodletter was raw spikes. Sword of Damnation was curling tendrils. It's kind of like Bloodletter because it grows into a newer spikey form during the animation but the actual extended weapon is more SoD than Bloodletter.

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>>729185441
i would gladly pollute the loot pool for a smidgen of sote weapons

>>729185382
Limveld is the only map

>>729186090
Okay. Have a less balanced, less consistently winnable game so you can have "Curved Greatsword but Hornsent"

>>729185936
The point is most SOTE weapons are really good, so it's hardly going to fuck up the loot pools.
They also have no problem changing weapon scalings for Nightreign. So for example, if they don't want the romina halberd being useless on Guardian they can just make it scale on STR instead of ARC.

>>729182152
I feel like Scholar really wants a lot of relic effects. The damage on ult and ult on kill is hard to pass up just for quick camp clears. The stat change relic for +dex is hard to pass up unless you know your teammates are killers. The party damage buff on skill use is also really strong at around +20% damage. Scholar also really likes item use conferred to party members. Also pouch slots, changing starting skill to blood blade, etc. He probably has the highest potential for relic rolls that you'll never ever get because relics are cancer.

Just playing with randos outside of DoN, he's extremely enjoyable just with the shop relic to give him dex and night of the fathom.

>>729186093
Oh yeah? What about The Great Hollow? Now what huh? You have been proven a liar.

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>>729186093
No fucking way! You're telling me that all of those bosses plus the DLC are all on the same damn map? For what purpose?

>>729186537
Small indie company anon please understand...

>>729174118
Its fun with 3 Undertakers and just chaining 6 Ults in a row

>>729186537
The DLC adds a new map but it feels very railroaded compared to how open Limveld is
Yeah why they didn't make a version for Liurnia and Caelid is very strange

>>729186235
>The point is most SOTE weapons are really good
Not so good that I'd want to find them over things that are already in. They would clutter up the loot pools. I don't want Swift Spear. I don't want Falx. I don't want Poisoned Hand. There's a shitton of chaff.

>>729172197
Charging money for 2 new bosses and 2 new characters and 1 tiny map is criminal
And then following it by confirming no more new content in the future is even worse

>>729186760
>he wants there to be only meta weapons in a game about random drops
kys my dude

>>729186842
I want the good weapons to be reliably found so that every expedition feels fair and winnable. I don't want Troll Greatsword AND Moonirithyl Greatsword. Light Greatswords suck ass. I don't want Freya's GS. Blackhand Blades aren't that special. None of it makes the game more fun and would only make the game less consistent and fair.

Lootpool bloat is anti-skill and anti-fun.

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Only just started playing with my couple of shmucks I play everything with.
I know Cursed Sword isn't worth swinging past maybe the first few encounters and just using for parries, but is using its charged weapon art worth it?

>>729186760
everyone would want the status hands just because of the balls moveset they have
falx would be broken too since it's a curved sword that powerstances itself
swift spear... okay, they aren't all winners

>>729186537
Well it's more like there's two maps, (but the main map has a bunch of versions where a third of the map is replaced by themed sections, ice mountain, volcano, Nox, Caelid)

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>>729187002
Wouldn't it be more skillful to be able to succeed with sub-par weapons in spite of it?
At that point its all about execution and moveset knowledge.

>>729187005
I wouldn't intentionally go out of your way to charge it up, but it hits hard enough to be worth throwing out when you have it.

>>729186337
>I feel like Scholar really wants a lot of relic effects
It's the opposite. He is the least relic dependent of any nightfarer and the only ones he NEEDS are bought or quested.
Unless you're strictly talking about pot build in which case yeah it's literally impossible to get fully stacked which is why fully stacking pot build breaks the game

>>729187014
>falx would be broken too since it's a curved sword that powerstances itself
That's not as strong as having two curved swords. You want the extra passives and possible "while in hand" and "using two weapons passives. Same thing makes the Ornamental Straight Swords lame.

>>729187150
>Wouldn't it be more skillful
The game already has that
>At that point its all about execution and moveset knowledge.
Yes and the game already has that. It's more fun to get OP and snowball well. Making more runs into bad loot CBT is a bad idea.

>>729187005
Yes it does good stance damage and I believe you have iframes like Ironeye's mark while using it.

>>729172197
not worth. 2 new characters, one is alright and the other sucks ass. new area is alright but it's a shifting earth. new night bosses are just ok

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>>729187323
scholar is more fun than undertaker.

>>729182469
>15% with 1% uptime
amazing. incredible. Let's compare this with ironeye's skill.
>10% with 100% uptime. Also explodes for extreme damage. Also applies poison. Also detonates poison for extreme damage.
Raider in the running for worst ult in the game with executor.

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>Do remembrance objective day 1
>Quickly realize it really shoulda been a day 2 sorta deal

>>729172197
I got it for free because I preordered the deluxe edition and haven't touched it. Nightreign was disappointing.

>>729186760
>I don't want Swift Spear. I don't want Falx. I don't want Poisoned Hand.
Yeah well I don't want the Eclipse Shotel or jar cannon but I keep getting 3 of them per run
I'd like a handful of them, like Euporia, Gazing Finger, Meteoric GS... make them purple or something, I don't see how adding more fun weapons would make the game worse
Hell, throw in some SOTE spells and incantations as well

>>729187435
nobody ever said his ult was better than Ironeye, the best character in the game, RETARD
What was said was "15% attack damage is good, learn to use his ult right you stupid fucking noob" which made you cry and shit your pants
Haha, what a retard, of course people wish Raider had Wylder's ult instead, what a fucking moron you are

>>729187435
>1% uptime
Yup, he's bad alright

>>729187848
Actually what was said is that 15% dmg with 0% uptime is "amazing" which it objectively is not.
I thought about it more and realized it's not in the running for the worst ult in the game, it just is in it's own tier of awful.
Every single time you ult, you cause someone on your team to miss a swing/spell/AoW. The damage you made them miss out on is 10 times more than the damage you will amp.
It would be more efficient to never ult as raider.

>>729188234
>uh BUH BUH let me move goal posts
you're a retard and you got BTFO, shut the fuck up

>>729181904
>the damage buff is amazing
>amazing

>>729187848
>What was said was "15% attack damage is good
>good

Kikes always accuse you of what they themselves are guilty of. Yes. I moved the goalpost. Not you. Shrimple.

>>729188382
>you shouldn't give your team a damage buff for 30 seconds because I personally am too retarded to use it correctly and not on top of the boss because I am a crayon eating moron
shut the fuck up retard

>of course the retard is some drooling /pol/ brown who starts wailing and shrieking about Jews randomly after getting shat on in a thread
every time lmao

>>729188409
>I wonder why everyone dodges my games
>raider is so good

I like using raider's ult to give my ironeye or casters a vantage point a bit away from the boss

>the Jews made people dodge my games so I'll just project hard
no friends to play with, /pol/tard? We're done here

I just don't understand why Raider's ult has to be so huge and intrusive, every time I play with one I know I'm gonna get hit through their faggot rock because I can't see what the boss is doing

>>729188623
I just it for a safe rez for the retards who WILL DIE to Phase 3 ED Balancers

>>729188739
fromsoft was REALLY proud of the climbing mechanic in nightreign, please understand

>>729188739
You just don't understand. It's actually SO good! :)

>>729188739
the Jews made him cast it on the boss and not off to the side

>>729172197
It's gud but a bit overpriced for what it is if you consider that you can get Silksong for the same price.

raider's ult does poise damage, interrupts boss attacks, gives me iframes and a little damage boost. i like it :^)

Redpill me on this new balancer meta I keep hearing about

>>729190048
2 new relics. they both increase physical damage and ash of war damage. every melee character runs at least 1 but often both.
bonus points if you have a "helps discover weapon" that only has a few purple drops with good AoWs. Great hammer goes dummy.

>>729190220
I don't run them on Raider desu and I think Taker has better ones to run too
Wylder uses them well, and so does Executor. I want to try them on Duchess

>>729190586
>plays raider
>is retarded
I'm SHOCKED.
Well,
not that shocked.

>>729191217
>seething retard is still seething, still a retard
I'm not shocked whatsoever. Did the Jews do this too?

>>729190220
I wish Undertaker could run both and her necklace

>>729191217
look I get you watched a youtube video about how BROKEN and OP the relics are
but UT's relic + the signboard damage reduction and poise when knocked back/damage taken increased damage + post damage with whatever else is good on it is way more damage if you're not spamming AoWs which Wylder does a fucking ton better than no FP and limited colossal weapon drop pool Raider. You CAN do it, and run around with some of the ones that work well but when I want to spam L2 I do it on a better character for it.
You seem really bad at this game.

>>729177063
Heal on roar is pretty good, lets you just ult up and brainlessly clear whole camps while tanking the boss by roar spamming which has deceptively massive range.
The parry also counts as a guard rather than a parry, so you can buff it with shit like heal on guard and guard counter effects.

>>729191695
yeah, but the others can. On Wylder it's really hard to give up 2 hooks and the lingering fire ult for her necklace. I think both Balancer relics are good enough and usually slot in his relic for the third

>>729191884
>>729191695
I wish I had known about the dupe before I kicked the shit out of regular balancers the first day it was out
then I could've had THREE skill damage relics

>>729190586
it's kinda boring but it works if you have a reaper relic
I don't really like hunting for 'the one' weapon builds

>>729174732
>His ult doesn't justify his worthless DPS.
NTA, but his DPS can be pretty good with status ailments he has a ridiculously high arcane stat so you proc them all the time

give scholar a bleed weapon and he is doing as mucb DPS as any other half-decent nightfarer

his item levelling can be a huge boon for the team if he takes "items affect allies", as he can give you +40% HP, +20% stamina, and an enhanced damage debuff and stamina regen buff by just using 1 crab and 1 turtle neck, on top of giving you an extra +40% stamina from using his character skill

he is a support character and excels in that role, as well as having great arcane to proc bleed, frost, rot, poison, and he can debuff enemies as well
I can tell you've never played with a good scholar, because a good one carries the run by making his allies ridiculously strong and making the enemies weak, then bleeds the shit out of them

>>729192191
The confer items passive is a meme, it has microscopic range and can even be iframed by your teammates.
You're only going to consistently get it off before a fight begins, where most of the buff uptime will be wasted on phase 1 of whatever you're fighting.

The best support from a scholar is the skill buff relic and a couple stacks of throwing knives.

>>729192471
>The confer items passive is a meme, it has microscopic range
>The best support from a scholar is the skill buff relic and a couple stacks of throwing knives.
thank you, someone who doesn't suck dick at scholar
>no honest guys I chase people down midfight to reapply 1 (one) body buff that requires them to stand still directly next to me
I'll toss in that healing stones are good tool; they stop the death bars from decaying if you need to run mid-rez

>>729191756
>undertaker's necklace
>raider
lol. lmao even. thats doing less for you than a basical physical +2 let alone any of the good effects. You can't stack it like fast characters can.

>>729192851
>lol. lmao even. thats doing less for you than a basical physical +2 let alone any of the good effects. You can't stack it like fast characters can.
holy shit you're bad at this game LOL

>>729192851
I'll agree with this guy
>>729192885
but I'll tell you WHY you're an idiot instead of just acknowledging that you are one:
put it on, go to the target dummy, and use a charged attack with a colossal weapon
You'll feel stupid when you realize it, but you'll stop being wrong about basic shit at least

>>729191756
I think it's a bit closer than that; don't forget both together give flat 12%ish melee damage too, so with necklace it's 35% for 47% total, and that's just regular melee damage, not counting what it does for arts at all
Losing post damage recovering does suck balls, but it's a crutch and doesn't help against bosses all that much anyways

Everyone's jizzing over balancer and undertaker relics while im over here enjoying the new starting incants/sorceries

>>729193652
melee finally gets to sit at the big boy damage table for a change

>>729193652
are any of the starting sorceries good? briars is interesting, but the rest don't seem much better than pebble.

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>>729193778
>rev pug
uh oh

>>729192191
>his DPS can be pretty good with status ailments
Not vs nightlords which are the only thing that matter. Vs. Nightlords the resist scaling is gonna fuck you.
>he is a support character
Yes and in Nightreign "Support" is bottom tier. Game's under a time limit and about snowballing and as such, DPS is the most important role and everybody should be measured on that basis.

Scholar's DPS sucks and his support doesn't make up for him being deadweight.

>>729194227
just equip an arc scaling weapon if you're not going to use the dex relic, moron
No shit you're expected to do damage as even scholar - good thing he can do insane fucking damage with the two S scaling arc weapons then, and great damage with many other lower arc scaling ones, huh idiot?

>>729193761
the only good one is the delayed one. night something. it hits things that try to dodge.

>>729194758
or with pots, or the ding a ling bell

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>>729194758
>just equip an arc scaling weapon if you're not going to use the dex relic, moron
You aren't listening. Every single proc of a status makes the next one harder to get. Nightlords already have huge resistance and huge HP pools. His ARC literally self-nerfs when facing Nightlords and your performance vs Nightlords is really just about the only thing that matters in a whole run. He has no defensive tools to stay alive and active in close range too and a roll that's as bad as Guardian's.

He's fucking BAD.

>>729194845
None of those are better than simply playing literally any other character. Even Guardian can mass revive and is able to hold aggro so his allies can get good DPS uptime. Scholar doesn't even have that. He has buffs and debuffs that suck and a gimmicky ult that doesn't do enough to shift the tide in favor of the Nightfarers by staggering or reviving.

>>729194960
you aren't listening MORON
Arc scaling weapons do damage based off of ARCANE STAT
we are not talking about statuses
go equip one of the 2 S scaling arc weapons and go hit the training dummy you fucking RETARD
holy fucking MORON

>NR DoN community: Wow scholar is busted as fuck
>retard on 4chan: um he sucks actually
lol

>>729195114
>Arc scaling weapons do damage based off of ARCANE STAT
It doesn't matter. His defensive kit and stats aen't adequate

>Guardian Tier roll
>Dogshit casterbab HP
>No cool defensive tools like Ironeye or Raider or Guardian or Duchess
It doesn't matter if he has some fucking ARC so he can use a Ripple Halberd. He's not built to fight up close and has the worst kit in the game for that.

>>729195175
the NR DoN community doesn't play anything but ironeye or casters with cheated relics

>>729195210
>It doesn't matter. His defensive kit and stats aen't adequate
>50 arcane on an S weapon isn't good
go hit the dummy you fucking idiot, your "feelings" and "I thinks" have nothing to do with reality
and the rest of your statement is just
>I can't dodge so he sucks

>>729195310
>everyone cheats so that's why they're all wrong and I'm right
lmao

>>729172197
Undertaker is fun, scholars dodge will make you actively worse at the game.

>>729195310
>>729194960
are you the same retard who didn't know how Undertaker's necklace works and said that colossal can't get stacks
LOL

>>729195352
>50 arcane on an S weapon isn't good
Yes correct. When you don't have the tools needed to actually make effective use of it, it's bad.
>>I can't dodge so he sucks
Other characters do more damage and have better defensive tools. He fucking sucks.

>>729195532
>Yes correct. When you don't have the tools needed to actually make effective use of it, it's bad.
what tool RETARD
just hit the fucking monster with your weapon, and if you picked one that scales with your stats, you do good damage. There's even a book in the game that will show you which ones to pick, RETARD
there is no way someone is this terrible and retarded, I am being trolled

>>729195648
>what tool RETARD
I told you. Shit like Guardian, Duchess, Ironeye, Raider and Wylder have. Stuff to help you not die. Having the worst roll in the game with no defensive skill or ability is HORRIBLE for going into melee. Even fucking Revenant can use Immortal March to become unkillable for a second and arguably diffuses enemy aggro by having her ghosts. Scholar has nothing.

>BUT MUH RIPPLE AXE
It doesn't matter if it has a big AR if you're dying lots or can't negate enemy behaviors easily to put yourself in advantageous positions.

Scholar is the weakest character. By far

>>729195175
>his ult clears every POI on the map instantly
>scholar is sooooooo baaaaaaaaad
People are bad at scholar. Scholar himself power creeps the game to a ridiculous degree.

>>729195858
yeah, this guy saying he's bad is just an idiot and doesn't understand several things about the game it seems like

>>729195858
>OH MAN HE KILLS TRASH MOBS! THEY'RE ALWAYS SO DANGEROUS AND I ALWAYS LOSE EXPEDITIONS BECAUSE OF TRASH MOBS!
Nightlords are all that matters retard.

>>729195914
Anon, Ironeye can clear PoIs quite well too with his Ult. It's not an important thing. The only thing that matters is can you kill the big scary Nightlord. Everything else is child's play.

>Having good run with random group
>New Gladius event happens
>Either ignore it and make your Damage negation at full HP useless or kill it for the most mediocre buff in the game
>Takes entire day to kill them

If you have a caster with you they can get bullied hard by the adds too so you will need to help em out if they don't kill the first one.

>>729195858
Ironeye and Executor have been doing that since the game launched.

>>729196112
idiot

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>>729195175
Hes the most relic dependent character in the game, hes better in DON especially if your cheating stuff like pot relics in all slots. Seriously some of the relics I've seen would take months even save scumming to roll, to get them all within a few weeks? Get outta here.

>>729195973
>Anon, Ironeye can clear PoIs quite well too with his Ult
>comparing it to Scholar's
this is how I know you have zero fucking clue what you are talking about

>>729196336
Do you get off on people calling you retarded or something?

>>729172197
Any tips for someone who plays with randos, doesn't have much free time to git gud, and has never beaten the first boss? I'd like to see the rest of the game I paid for.

>>729196336
he's good outside of bullshit relics though
dex relic = consistent strong damage with higher dex than Executor, pots are good even with just a few +1, you can take the bell, or just use any arc weapon at all.
My problem with him is not that he's bad, it's that I find him boring as shit.

>>729196351
Scholar's best at it but that's a fucking horrible thing to be "best" at because it doesn't matter.

>>729195175
They're fucking retards. I know this because I play DoN in the random player queue. Most of them are skullfucked retards.

>>729196384
Sorry you have to git gud. Gladius isn't that hard. If you suck that much, that's on you.

>>729196427
>dex relic = consistent strong damage with higher dex than Executor
Except with a dogshit roll with only 11 i-frames and no HP so even trash mobs instagib him.
>My problem with him is not that he's bad, it's that I find him boring as shit.
Worse. He's boring AND bad.

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>>729196568
Wife.

Hell, even Guardian excels at handling trash mobs with his extended whirlwind. Never knew Guardian was secretly a top tier character all this time, glad /v/ has educated me.

>>729196427
The dex relic just makes him a worse Executor, it should really only be used solo because you don't always find a good ARC weapon and certain bosses/locations will take forever for him.

>>729174118
Undertaker is kind of a STR/FAI answer to Duchess's DEX/INT, she's second-best in incantations to Revenant/Recluse (same FAI score) and has STR roughly equivalent to Wylder's, but her stamina suffers and she doesn't have very high FP. Her general playstyle is turbo aggressive in a more general frontliner direction than Duchess, who wants to be a power-stance dagger blender and Restage queen.

>>729196610
Guardian also has the best melee dmg in the game with his respec relic so obviously he's SUPER good and not a bottom tier throw pick for retards!

>>729196659
>her stamina suffers
Activating Trance instantly refills your stamina

>>729196507
>because I play DoN in the random player queue
no one is impressed with your level 1 DoN, tardbro. You thought Undertaker's relic stacked up per hit and so 'faster weapons are better'
lmao

>>729175643
Post your run history.

>>729196384
I remember when I was new having issues too, did a solo Rev run and found the holy disk catalyst and after Gladius split I took out half his hp instantly because the disk hit all three of them, after that the game clicked for me.

>>729196843
No, that's you being a schizo retard.

I just know for a fact that most DoN players are complete fucking faggot retards. Even in D5.

>>729196507
4cuck opinions on how to be hardstuck on DoN 3 forever
wonderful lmao

>>729172197
I feel like it needed one more unique map to be worth it. But it's all right.


>>729172825
Scholar's pretty easy.
Ignore spells. Go all in on arcane procs and weapons. Debuff bosses/buff your allies with his skill. Get the passive that makes his ult do continuous damage.

Throw in a relic that spreads buffs to allies, and everybody will be feeding you their buffs.

Bonus points if you make a pit stop at a merchant, to load up on fire pots to spam on death birds.

>>729196384
Play a different game

>>729196896
>i..it was someone else who types just like me and also doesn't know shit about this game
pathetic

>>729196801
I'm talking about her actual stamina score, which is effectively 22 END at level 15. You can work around it for sure but she does have noticeably low stamina on her own. She hovers around the same stamina mark as Recluse and Revenant who are 23 and 21 respectively at level 15.

>>729172197
Why the tranny colors? What's the significance in Nightrein?

>>729196905
>play a character who has even less ability to avoid dying to instakill D5 shenanigans than the entire cast combined!
You're stupid.

>>729196949
>I'm a forensic handwriting analyst!
Fuck off retard.

>>729196949
i hope you understand you've already accused two different people of being your bogeyman in this thread alone

>>729197023
I hope you understand you're a fucking retard who has no idea how this game works
>the most powercreep character in the game? Yeah, he's bad
>no I won't post my runs

>>729196384
Post what platform and a password, someone here can help you since we're all so good at the game after all. But in the end it still boils down to hit things while not getting hit.

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>>729197098
>no defensive tools
>bad offensive stats
>highly limited and gimmicky consumable focused playstyle
>powercreep
LOL

>>729197023
so two of you are complete idiots who are awful at the game instead of just one
that doesn't change much

>>729197142
>can't learn scholar's dodge so the strongest character in the game is bad actually
LOL

>>729196384
No tips.
Randoms may quit at anytime, because you didn’t revive them or didn’t go to their mark or whatever.
Just get lucky and play well I guess

>>729197142
>highly limited
Dude hitting up any camp or church overflows you with items and firepots are cheap to buy at merchants, flasks of wondrous physick aren't good enough to even consider grinding let alone hoarding. Everything else works beautifully leveled up even just the once, there is literally no downside to using items, especially not as a Scholar

I really hope I never get matched with you fucking idiots. I know in my heart the tard who thinks scholar is bad is some Ironeye dipshit I have to peel off the floor constantly

>>729197192
Having a bad dodge is a huge problem, you're a fucking retard. Everything else about him is mediocre other than his performance on day 1 with items when his bad stats don't matter because he's using stats agnostic items that he buffs.

Once we're all online and it's nightlord time, he fucking sucks. He sucks total ass during the only hard part of a run.

>>729197227
that's how you know he's a fucking retard and terrible at the game.
Even the dumbest rando knows firepots are unlimited and you just buy 2 stacks of necks at the first vendor to hit level 3, and also buy 3 stacks of knives

>>729197227
>Dude hitting up any camp or church overflows you with items and firepots are cheap to buy at merchants
Yeah but they're limited. When you run out, you're fucked. Which again: Is gonna happen vs a Nightlord unless you're fully bagmaxxed AND the boss is weak to fire.

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>>729197292
his dodge isn't bad though; it has higher recovery than everyone else.
YOU are bad, is the issue.
Sorry!

>>729197315
>Even the dumbest rando knows firepots are unlimited
Your bag isn't unlimited and the bosses have shittons of HP in DoN and only a handful are very weak to fire.

>>729197342
Good thing Scholar isn't actually helpless when he's out of pots, he's still a proc king and his item drops seem predisposed to giving him Cold, Bleed, Poison and Rot weapons, especially Antspur Rapier

Wylder is honestly a better support than Scholar, simply because he can revive players more easily. A living team is better than a 3barred that deals 20% more damage.

>>729197431
he didn't know the merchant sells items. Trying to convince him of anything is pointless.

>>729196669
>Birb
>Have 3 +phys damage relics, "Find Greatbows", and -vig/+str/+dex
>Get Greatbow with Rain of Arrows
>Anything big gets absolutely shredded
>Anything human sized gets stunlocked forever by normal attacks, namely most jail enemies
I didn't think the most effective way to bird would be fat archer, but it seems to work surprisingly well.

>>729197409
>Higher recovery
On an 11 frame dodge. Duchess can chain TWO dodges together for uninterrupted i-frames and Recluse dodges are fucking Bloodhound Step tier but 11 frames is somehow good because you can spam it?

>>729197431
>he's still a proc king
Not in the only fights that matter. Nightlords have too much HP and run away from you enough that his procs fall right the fuck off once you've gotten the boss' status res up.

>>729197459
Yes of course. Wylder is an excellent "anchor" who can serve to deal solid DPS while also keeping the more fragile higher DPS classes online.

>>729197521
>Griefbow Guardian
Play a fucking caster you fucking retarded faggot. Or Wylder, he's good with Rain of Arrows Greatbows too. I would literally block you after playing if you ran that in DoN with me.

>>729172197
If you are a fan of Nightreign then the DLC is worth it. Both new characters are fun and pretty unique in playstyle. Scholar is usually much more of a support character but is pretty busted having on a team if you use the item share relic. Undertaker is fun to play as well, and both new bosses are very good. In addition, you get an entire new map in the DLC, which I found frustrating at first to learn but it's interesting once you're more familiar with it.

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>>729196971
Its not tranny colors, its blood for the new PMS boss.

>even the subreddit understands the game better than these retards here
>"i.items..a..are hard to m...max"
>"h..his dodge...i..is h...hard t..to use....so he's b...bad.."
my sides

>>729197597
>I would literally block you after playing if you ran that in DoN with me.
Good thing I don't have to worry about seeing you since I'm depth 5 then, good luck getting past 2.

>>729196384
We all sucked when we started. I wish you luck.

>>729197409
Huh, I had no idea Recluse's dodge was that good

Is it me, or does Guardian's whirlwinds on halberd charge attack buff cause MASSIVE poise damage on everything. Like you can stagger 90% of bosses every 30 seconds just spamming it.

>>729197597
it's not my fault or problem you suck cock with his dodge. I use it fine. All the people I see in DoN use it fine (and there is a scholar every game because he's busted)
You being dogshit at a high skillcap yet overpowered character are literally not my problem

>>729197673
long distance too, but the downside is the recovery. It makes her prone to getting rollcaught by fast followups, but if you know this it becomes easier to avoid

>>729197710
I wouldn't know since I throw that piece of shit halberd in the trash at the first opportunity. Literally any weapon type is better for him.

Do people have fun on depths 4-5? Even on depth 3 having to hard carry complete retards gets tiring

>>729197784
no, one shot city is not really fun. You can do it just to say you did then derank to 3

>>729197784
Depth 2 and 4 are awful. 3 is the casual sweetspot and 5 is the tryhard sweetspot.

>>729197710
The whirlwind is "good", but I'm not a fan of any passive that locks you into a single weapon type. Especially halberds, since they're not exactly the greatest weapon class in the game.

>>729197632
>"i.items..a..are hard to m...max"
No, it's that they're limited.
>>"h..his dodge...i..is h...hard t..to use....so he's b...bad.."
Yes. Dying lots make him bad and his kit isn't worth being so fucking fragile.

>>729197654
lmao, I'm d5 9999, and I've blocked many Griefbows and you won't be the last.

>>729197720
>I use it fine.
Not relevant. Every time you went down, it's arguable that you wouldn't have if you played anybody else. Literally ANY class is better at not dying.
> (and there is a scholar every game because he's busted)
lmao sure and your Dad works at Fromsoft.
>You being dogshit at a high skillcap yet overpowered characte
There's no skill and nothing overpowered. Even when you build him to make his pots strong, he's fucking easy to play and thgere's zero comparison in melee usefulness when Executor is fucking literally unkillable if you're sufficiently skilled. You being able to scrape by with the worst dodge in the game is hardly impressive and all that effort isn't being rewarded with a strong character. It's being rewarded with a mid ult, mid melee damage and highly limited consumable gimmickry

>>729197885
>lmao, I'm d5 9999
pfahahahaha

>>729195175
>NR DoN community
Your faggy discord and/or youtuber clique doesn't speak for the playerbase.

>>729197761
Unless I'm missing something/can't count, it seems she has some of the lowest recovery frames in that chart, no?

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Do people seriously consider Scholar's dodge is bad?

I know Duchess, Recluse, and Buffed-Undertaker are in the game.
But the dude still dodge-dashes way better than anything in a base Soulslike game.

Even Bloodborne, minus the bone.

>>729197932
yeah and the playerbase thinks he's busted, retard. Just go look anywhere you want, on Gayfags, Reddit, Youtube
>inb4 no none of those count

>>729197963
only this retard ITT
everyone else is glazing him because he's good and wondering how From is going to kneecap him

>>729174732
Scholar is literally the best character in the game, pot damage is fucking retarded

>>729197710
Yeah it tosses around even Banished Knights like nobody's business and has a good chance of staggering a Crucible Knight, good thing too since BKs scare the fuck out of me in Nightreign

>>729197991
>keep getting recommended videos about how "busted" scholar is
>see uploader streaming DoN
>hardstuck D3
Show me that play history of your D5 scholar wins, anon. That should be easy, right?

>>729197927
Facts are facts retard.

>>729197963
Anon, he literally has a Dark Souls 1 midroll. Even in Dark Souls 1 with those super slow baby tier enemies, midroll required tighter more skillful timing. In Nightreign PARTICULARLY IN DEPTH OF NIGHT [which is why the people saying he's hot shit in D4/5 are obvious retards/liars] the enemies have tools and attacks that are designed for NIGHTREIGN characters, not Dark Souls ones. Guardian's roll is just about the same but atleast he's specialized into greatshields.

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>>729197885
>I'm d5 9999
lmao and I'm d6 1,000,000. You can't even play Scholar properly and yet you think anyone will believe you even managed to crawl to d4?

>>729197963
Only one fucktarded pajeet doing the classic pajeet thing of “asserting his caste”

>>729198105
I asked you to post yours first, mister D59999. You won't because you're a retard who doesn't even understand base mechanics of this game and you've played exactly zero DoN matches past 3, if even that
LOL

>>729197784
Once you get to depth 5 teams usually know what they're doing which makes the whole thing wrap around to being a smooth experience, most of the time anyways. depth 4 is the real hell since you're dealing with one shots and retards.

>>729198079
It's not that crazy anon. Anybody can do retard dmg with relics set up properly except those characters can do it endlessly instead of being limited by their stack of consumables.

The only ones people are even willing to build around are the fir pots because they're the only one he can reliably get lots of. Because consumables are limited. Because Scholar's gimmick isn't very good.

>>729198105
Why are you watching streamers instead of playing the game? Scholar is legit broken and will probably get nerfed. d5 is full of CE scholars using the pot relics and literally soloing the castle level 3

>>729198107
yeah and the "Fact" is you don't know how scholar works and you had to move goalposts when someone posted the frame data showing you're just a shitter

>>729198224
>HACKERS CAN EZ CLEAR CASTLES
Doesn't make him good anon. They're just rightly gravitating to the guy who's strongest at low level. Which just like PoI clearing, is a retarded accoldae that doesn't matter and is worth nothing.

>>729198191
No, no other character can do 4k damage level fucking 3. Kill yourself. Why are you even here? I get done playing D5 for 2 hours and I come back and you’ve been arguing the entire time how the best character in the game is actually bad. You live a miserable brown life lmao

this is the first NR thread I've seen with someone claiming scholar is bad and I'm just wondering why people are taking the extremely shitty bait

>>729198304
Saaaar the acoldae who cares if he solos a trios dreadlord saaar the acoldae

>>729198259
I know everything about how he works dude. There's no hidden secret. He sucks. Firepot Scholar is decent vs Caligo and Gnoster and that's about it and he falls off a smidge vs ED Gnoster because of the HP bloat being hard for his inventory to keep up with.

>>729198372
you know jack shit you retarded shitter lmao

>this character is good if you're literally cheating
I don't even agree with the anti-scholar guy but this is ridiculous cope. Surely you have a better argument than this?

>>729198309
>No, no other character can do 4k damage level fucking 3
But that's an irrelevant achievement. Being strong on day 1 isn't important. This is hilarious, you're so stupid you just see BIG DAMAGE EARLY and think it's a big deal? Fucking hell mate.

>>729198310
Lolcows exist to get milked, this fag will kill himself anyways

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>>729197779
I've been enjoying 2-handing halberds.
With the post-HP restore, and damage-negation on charged attacks, you practically just trade into everything with your poise. You set-up critical hits constantly. Occasionally swap into shield to draw attention, mitigate the nukes, or play ultra-safe.

I don't play on Deeps-5 tho.
Only 3, and Everdarks.

I'd like it if the passive affected spears, too.
And if there was a legendary halberd option.

>>729198427
>>729198428
He’s so mad he’s posting on his phone and pc

I stopped playing right after fartis, didn't even see depth of night shit, how do you unlock the DLC characters/depth mode? pls

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>>729198532
You have to beat the game

>>729198612
again? that's it? gotcha ty senpai
also, are the dlc characters remembrances fun?

>>729198612
oh and by fartis I meant turbo fartis with the red butterfly

>>729198682
They ignore every character but each other, so heads up on that.

Gladius and Adel plushies when.

>>729198492
I definitely think they should have given every class of weapon at least one legendary tier instead of just limiting it to the Legend weapons from ER. Is giving something like the Commander' Standard or Glintstone Kris a special in hand effect really that hard? But 5 legendary greatswords and 4 legendary colossal swords is just fine

>>729198791
They do actually have character-specific lines if you talk to them while controlling any of the others (I think Wylder is the only one that doesn't get a character specific line and I'm not entirely sure any other character has specific lines for him)

Guardian also had one of his remembrance journals retconned to mention Scholar and Undertaker lol

>>729197119
Thanks for the offer, but I'm sick so I'll suck even more than normal.

>>729198428
>BIG DAMAGE EARLY
at least admit you don’t even know what you’re talking about when it comes to how pot scholar functions in actual gameplay

>>729198832
No, shit like Black Knife being purple is a feature not a bug. It makes certain categories stronger. Not to mention, not every weapon class even had a real candidate.

I haven’t played in a bit. Once I sit down and play it I usually don’t stop for several hours so I try to avoid touching it until then.

>>729198832
To this day I'm still baffled the Black Knife isn't considered a legendary weapon, in either Elden Ring or Nightreign, meanwhile the dumbass Grafted Blade Greatsword is considered legendary

>>729199137
There's only one grafted GS but BK was mass produced. That's the lore at least. In function Black Knife is easily Legendary Tier with that WA.

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>>729199221
Most interesting part of the weapon is that it's a mutated Blade of Calling, Melina has a moveset reflective of Black Knife Assassins with it too

>>729172197
Eh, not really. $40 is a bit steep. Especially compared to SotE.

I will never understand picking a dodge character and then pussying around with a shield.

>>729172197
Should be about 40 with the dlc included
Also didn't they promise new costumes?

>>729199463
some stuff is just easier to block because everything has 100% phys block in this game, just got to make sure it's a move with zero followup
>all of ED Balancers phase 3 except for spear rain
>Fartman's side slam if you're too far to roll into him
>regular Balancer's super combo ending

oh lol to unlock dlc characters you just gotta open the door behind jarbro

>>729199463
With weight and required stats not mattering in Nightreign there's literally no downside to having a greatshield, especially if it has a good passive

I just wanted something to be done about Executor character skill to make it more usable, since the release of the game and until this day it's pointless to use it. At best the only useful thing is the sheathing it back animation parry that cancels the recoil of deflecting a big attack.

I think that something should be done to incentive the use of it. Or at the very least they could make so you can't get guard broken from a deflect. It's uncanny that if you try to parry some attack sequences on higher depths you get guary broken and instantly die even if you deflected all hits

>>729199610
It's a really lazy dlc. you don't even need to beat the mini dreglord
Revenant made you fight her and all her summons at the same time

>>729199463
>>729199556
I'd also rather take the chip on ED augur's laser than try to judge the distance and dodge timing on that shit

>>729199659
honestly I prefer it being like this tbdesu I just wanna kill shit with the bros

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>>729199657
Nothing will ever be fixed in this game.

>>729199701
yeah, that one too

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>>729199657
>Muh muh character skill suxxxx
>pls buff
Gotta wait in line bro.

>>729199785
gangbanged nightly by the other nightfarers

>>729199785
I feel like there's some really easy changes they could make that would take an intern like 15 minutes

I wanna play Nightreign with /v/ to see how good (or lack thereof) you are, why doesn't anyone make lobbies?

>>729199842
>cold doll with angry skull inside of it
all you bro

>>729199917
I don't want to lose 800 points by playing with the shitter who thinks scholar is bad

>>729199917
/vg/ does but they're all trannies who namedrop and and ERP all day. /v/ is an ocean of retards and shitposting shitskins who run into every NR thread to whine about fortnite.

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>>729199976
Still haven't seen that scholar win record, anon.

>>729200016
The thread is dogshit, but the regulars that actually play are mostly fine. There's a couple of retards that grief or throw bitchfits when a run doesn't go how they want, but the blocklist easily solves that.

>>729200062
you're the one claiming he's bad in the face of common consensus, you were also asked first, and you keep trying to dodge it
faggot

>>729200160
The common consensus is driven by shitters. People also commonly think Guardian isn't dogshit, they're wrong too.

>>729199842
for me it's futa rev fucking recluse and duchess

>>729200223
there he goes again, dodging, the little bitch lmao

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>>729200250
>futa

How do some people deal massive damage? Am I missing something. I just started, I pick weapons that have passives that match the char and end up joist chipping at bosses

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>>729200556
They're collecting good passives.

>>729200556
You know those "10%+ max hp/stamina" buffs? Don't pick those

>>729200747
+10% HP is one of the best ones possible on literally any character. +10% HP is literally the same as "-10% damage from all sources"