Do people actually believe this?
I played OoT 3D when I was 12 and this was basically true
>>729262092>when i was 12damn unc was retarded *skull*
>>729262092nostalgiafags are this delusional, yes.
>>729262092>zoomers dont know what an imagination is.I'm shocked
>>729262092This is literally the whole imagination fills in the gaps shit uncs talk about.
>>729262092You had to have been there.
>>729262092You are a zoomer you can't get it. You will never get it.
>>729262175It's almost sad really.
show me a zoomer who isnt a number 5
>>729262092they looked even better back then, that picture doesn't really capture the essence
>>729262143tpbp
>>729262298>he can't imagine a zoomer being anything but 5 do you see the irony mr. 5?
>>729262092I don't understandWhen I play video games, I see video gamesI do not make up lies in my head
>>729262092No. But the gamecube Zelda teasers (before WW released) + Twilight Princes felt like this
>>729262476Old games were designed in a way that made you fill in the gaps with your imagination, because the actual in-game graphics weren't yet capable of portraying what the developers wanted to portay.
>>729262092When you see people praising uncslop this is exactly how they envision it. They haven't actually played those games in several decades and their perceptions are all gassed up
Pokemon lost its charm in 3D for the same reason; you can't really imagine Pokemon battles with 3D graphics and animations, the vagueness is gone.
>>729262564No they weren'tThey were designed so you could play a game. Not make up lies in your head
>>729262092>when I was 12No... I didn't lose my imagination
>>729262687It's not "making up lies" if what's in your head is pretty much exactly what all the promotional artwork showed
>>729262298lmao unc is crashing out
>>729262092Zoomers weren't alive to see the transition from 2D to 3D, so to them, 3D is nothing special as it has always been like that. I pity their childhood, I really do.
>>729262568>unc>all gassed upwhy do zoomers talk like niggers? its literally niggerspeak. what causes this?
>>729262742What's in my head is what I seeDo we all need to make up lies in our heads to play video game? Why would you say such a thing?
>>729262092It's how the human mind works, you apprehend the video game trough intentionality as the object you want it to be with what you provide and that guy provided a lot of imagination.There are video games or early stages in them that felt exactly like that to me and I vividly recall the experiences as well.
>>729262901NIGGERS
>>729262564Its a damn shame we'll never get an HD zelda in the style of oot concept art and instead be got botw kiddy shit
>>729262983this is also why hyperfidelity modern graphic realism is only appealing to soulless normgroids
>>729262901sybau unc 67
I am thoroughly convinced not a single person who uses "unc" on 4chan is a day younger than 30. I know it is actual slang but it's getting too forced here to not seem like a coordinated raid.
>>729263118whats the 67 part mean
I've been watching this guy recently who is playing OoT for the first time in the current year. The most interesting part, aside from seeing all the things this person has to learn the hard way that anyone familiar with the game or any traditional 3D Zelda already knows by heart, is how much he thinks the graphics have kept up. There's a lot of praise for atmosphere and the couple of dynamic effects (like slashing signs leading to differently sliced pieces based on your attack).
>>729262568No, that's literally what the games looked like to them when they were kids
>>729263114There's merit to it but only when done well.
>>729262092>WOW WHAT IF IT WAS JUST THE SAME BUT REALno. people's minds saw shit like this, or the title screen. Imagine they put any effort into official art or title screens these days. Its all about copying and pasting the same shit over and over now.
>>729262092>pretending that Ocarina of Time is Shadow of the Colossus >instead of just playing Shadow of the Colossus
>>729262143>zoomer doesn't know what imagination is
>thread immediately devolves into retard unc zoomer shitpostingthis board is unusable and /vr/ is a graveyard, 4chan is dead
>>729263197all zoomer slang is meant to be ironic. no one uses it seriously
>>729263609shadow of the colossus came out like what, a decade after oot? or later?
>>729262092Definitely not. I played Mario 64 in 96 and wanted the game to look like the manual and renders instead of the blocky in-game.It's cool that mods exists and native ports exist now.
>>7292637177 years later.
>>729262687book just ink on paper unga bunga me learn wipe ass with paper last week
>>729262298why is it brown in 3?
>>729263851its the color of op's skin
>>729262092No, always looked blocky and bad. People shat on their pants with how Link looked in Melee and Spaceworld demo for a reason.Saying it looked like real life is a bad reddit meme.
>>729263812I read things and it's like someone told me what happened. I don't make up lies in my head
>>729262298I never got this. Do you close your eyes and still see shit?
>>729264107It's picturing things inside your head. Like, how far can you go? Do you just think about it and see nothing? Do you see the outlines of things? Do you see them in what I assume to be monochrome? Is it cartoony? Or can you go all the way to realistic?I'm a numero uno myself
Japan has a 'culture of cute', they really prefer cute little characters, friendship storylines. This goes all the way back to Journey of the West, the earliest literature of asia. Pretty much any japanese anime or videogame will have the ever-present cutesy little character involved somehow, and usually a nakama group. Whether it's One Piece, Yugioh, or Persona.Nintendo heavily relies on this. All their games use cutesy little characters, usually with an oversize head. Normally such games would be targeted to kids, but Nintendo makes extra money targeting adults. As a result, we have the absurd sight of adult men playing children's games with cutesy, smiling, happy little characters. Link is a bit of an exception. These games target a slightly older demographic than something like Pokemon. The franchise is given a bit more artistic license to choose their style and worldbuilding, rather than the samesame cartoonish artstyle of other Nintendo products. But still, the same Japanese vibe is present, down to the very core of the games.Compare it to something like castelvania, you'll immediately see the difference.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGUJcqxbRLo
>>729262092NGC and PS2 were the first time 3-D games looked good for me. N64 and PS1 were really blocky, FFVII always looked like trash outside of battles. FFVIII and stuff like Parasite Eve were a huge jump in that regard.My first video game was a Snes and the first games were Mario World. Mega Man X and ALttP.
>>72926209212 year olds have imaginations unlike you.
>>729262298Im a 0I can conjure apples
>>729264107it's nonsense. a study was done and those that claimed better visualization of an apple are associated with lower iq
>>729262092I played GoldenEye on a 14" CRT in our unfinished basement, my parents just threw an old rug and beat-up couch down there. The TV had a separate speaker, this little round thing that had to be physically clipped onto the set (and would often fall off requiring me to duct-tape it on). And that game melted my face off. No cinematic / IMAX experience could match the intensity. It's all subjective experience.
>>729264242Wouldn't it be more impressive to be able to picture unrealistic looking things? You can picture a realistic looking apple just by recalling one you've seen IRL.
How did that cow get down there anyway
>>729262092Would be more accurate if the second panel was "How it felt to me when I was 12"
>>729264107
>>729264490It's the detail, anon. I can imagine the abstract outlines myself, but I can go even farther. I picture different class suns going supernova with unimaginablely vibrant colors in my mind. To be only capable of one or up to a point is the limitation of a mind.
>>729264431Imagination can be trained.People can train lucid dreaming, average dream level of vividness and you can also train the realism of your closed eye visualizations.In my ordinary day to day they are not very strong but when I consume drugs or when I sit in bed and close my eyes, relaxing they are as real as reality right now.For years my dreams have been a blur, dark and absent but I've recently started to trait vividness and every single night now I have them a level of 9 out of 10 of vividness.
>>729262127>damn unc was retarded *skull*
>>729263625>If I make believe that the big empty field had stuff in it, then it was really cool!This is the level of delusion one needs to be on to think Ocarina of Time aged well and is a fun game.
>>729262092you are a fag if you agree with OP, it looked like top, it looked like to you. don't be a artsy faggot. was pure kino the way it is
>>729264272Journey to the West is very far from the earliest literature of Asia, though it's definitely one of the most popular novels of all time. The Tale of Genji is much older. Journey to the West is not a story of friendship either. Tang San is a useless chump, Wukong is a jackass, Zhu Bajie is a relentless pervert. They're a comedy troupe on an adventure, they are bound together by force and contrivance and destiny, love is probably the last thing that motivates them to stay together. The kawaii culture shit started way later with the mass commercialization of anime toward children and became increasingly dominant in the 2000s. Anime trended toward realism for a long time in the 80s and 90s in its art and animation style. Commercial success and selling merch to kids and girls drove this culture not some transhistorical preference pattern of East Asian art.
>>729262092Yup, your imagination fills in the blanks
I specifically remember thinking Epona was crazy realistic when the game was new. The rest of the game not as much, I played it a ton but it was a couple years after it came out before my family got an n64 so there were fancier graphics and shit out there, but for some reason Epona blew me away. I think I'd probably just never seen an animal get any sort of real attention to detail in a videogame before, I was like 10 and videogame animals were usually like 10 polygons or pokemon
>>729265021epona is animated extremely wellvery natural horse movements
>>damn unc was retarded *skull*
>>729262092you woudn't believe the type of shit I thought was in Hyrule field when I was 8, once I realized it connected to different places and there were secret grottos and automatically assumed there were infinite secrets as long as you kept looking
>>729262092It's unfortunate most zooms will never get to experience this.That was the magic of old vidya. Things feel like they're on a much grander scale when there's room for your imagination to fill in the rest. This is why modern open world games (mostly) all suffer from the same problem of feeling empty and boring, they're decorative pieces which are often far too big with few interesting points.>see that mountain?>you can climb it>but why would you want to?Elder Scrolls are still pretty fun exploration games though.
>>729262564basically a perfect recreation
>>729262175Nostalgia delusion is not imagination.I'm not gonna sit here and tell you Combat looked like Battlefield 6 because I'm not mentally damaged like you.
>It's unfortunate most zooms will never get to experience this.>>That was the magic of old vidya. Things feel like they're on a much grander scale when there's room for your imagination to fill in the rest. This is why modern open world games (mostly) all suffer from the same problem of feeling empty and boring, they're decorative pieces which are often far too big with few interesting points.>>>see that mountain?>>you can climb it>>but why would you want to?>Elder Scrolls are still pretty fun exploration games though.
>>729263197>>729263648shut up, niggers. I'm an actual unc
It looked better in your head because you played it on an appropriate display at the correct ratio and output, blended with the fog of old memory.
>>729266019same, i have a nephew tooi can't stand being near him because i want kids of my own and seeing him so happy and pure makes me want to die because i will never create something like that
>>729265576you hit the nail on the head with the greentext. I would call the problem area "content density" or "interaction density".old games only had enough render budget for the stuff you'll actually be DOING in the game. when you see something in an old game you can count on it being relevant to your experience in some way. there will be something to DO involving that thing, otherwise it wouldn't be there! they wouldn't waste those triangles and textures. you have an implicit contract with the devs saying, if you see something complex it offers interaction.during and after 7th gen the ratio became totally inverted. now the vast majority of visual complexity is just "movie sets" that don't offer any interactive value. not because there's less to do in newer games but because they can waste triangles and textures on lots of visual elements so they do. but at the same time they don't have the means to make more actual content, more gameplay. we never really moved past 6th or 7th gen in terms of gameplay, we only kept piling on more visual complexity. the implicit contract is gone and replaced with a bold lie: this games offers a lot of complexity (it doesn't).
>>729262789The transition was horrible for me, because I was a 2D hold out snob.
>>729266232my sister had a daughter this year and I'm just gonna get as much out of that as possible since I'm a KHV who will never have kidsit is what it is. for what it's worth she has probably stopped by suicide because seeing her grow up is something I want to genuinely experience
>>729266232seeing my nieces and a nephew reassured me that my choice to not have children and waste my own life just on making them decent humans with triple digit iq was correct.Because all those kids are fucking retarded. I don't mean ignorant nor even tech illiterate. I do mean stupid as hell.
>>729266405They're not yours, anon. They're not yours.I need to step away for a bit. I've made myself sad
>>729266491I know she's not mine, but I enjoy being an unclelike I said, it is what it is
>>729266232We did IVF 8 times and it failed every time. I thought my life was over and so did my wife.We adopted the most perfect baby boy the next year, and a second two years later. Never give up.
>>729264348I haven't evolved mentally since 12 at all so my imagination is still intact
>>729266686holy shityou wasted a million dollars, man
>>729262092I actually only grew into the roleplay/imagination aspects of vidya when I entered my 20s.As a child, I always needed some kind of narrative to play a game, and if the game was an RPG I NEEDED a 'canon' name to use. Most of my childhood was spent reading books, so I imagine I just didn't find an appeal in inserting too much of myself into the title.I've really enjoyed a lot of games now that I consider my own thought though.I imagine I'd hate a title like The Hundred Line if I wasn't allowing my mind to wander. Instead, I experience an unprecedented degree of mirth when I mentally write off the main character as severely retarded to an absurd degree, and I ended up making my first set of choices based on how I think he'd respond to the choices- which was through a raw animalistic grudge followed by him succumbing to the lowest amount of peer pressure possible, and that made the first 70 hours of the game a dream where the narrative flowed in a simply amazing way that wouldn't have happened had I been my younger self (who likely would've just used a route guide to get all the endings "in order", resulting in a disdain for the title).
>>729262092I do remember Killer Instinct on the SNES looking like a PS4 game kek
>>729266762It was actually only $14k each time, and considering where we are today I would pay it a thousand times over.
>>729262127shut up bitch
>>729266868jesus
>>729262564>images you can and will hear for the rest of your lifetake me back
>>729263812Books were designed in a way that made you fill in the gaps with your imagination, because the actual in-book words weren't yet capable of conveying what the developers wanted to convey.
>>729262901zoomers have no identity
>>729262092This doesn't even cover it zoom-zoom, OoT was absolutely mind-blowing at the time, like literally astounding
>>729265789It's not nostalgia if that's how you saw the game the first time you played it.
>>729267334this, but unironically
>>729262298I can't imagine 1-types being anything but depressive sad sacks2, 3 and 4 add a note of their own personal whimsy to the apple as a microcosm of their influence over reality, 1fags are slaves to realism
